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bonkers
07-02-2004, 08:26 PM
Is it just me or is Naruto becoming tootrong lately, the story is almost no more fun any more.

He's stronger that Sasuke , and MUCH stronger than Sakura and EVERYBODY his age. Plz tell me WHY you guys think he's still anywhere "near" the level of the kids his age !!!!!!!!

KeyserSozei
07-02-2004, 08:30 PM
hahaha..
sorry... he's baka..
he's getting there really quick though..
but he's just too weak to control his chakra at
any moment..
he only gets it when he's in danger or something
once he get's full..then he'll be too strong

W4ph3r
07-02-2004, 08:38 PM
he's strong.

he just hasnt unleashed his full potential yet.

bonkers
07-02-2004, 08:44 PM
K , i c , mmmmm..... well , with the frog and all , if he summons that thing , wouldn't he kick sasuke's ass ?

W4ph3r
07-02-2004, 08:48 PM
yes, he would kick his ass very bad

DonkeyBalls
07-02-2004, 08:51 PM
When compared to the other young ninjas, maybe but take into account the adults that he will eventually have to face.

bonkers
07-02-2004, 08:52 PM
YEAH , so he is sort of stronger , but , mmm... , he can't controle the "red" chakra yet , can he ?

narutoIZZAbest
07-02-2004, 09:11 PM
Yea he can
didnt he use it to fight against Neji?

Anbu Dr J
07-02-2004, 09:39 PM
well he cant use ALL of it...kinda...he had to ask kyuubi to lend it to him

random_kuree
07-02-2004, 09:43 PM
Naruto is a BAD ASS! ^^

Strong is good right? plus he's not that strong compared to everyone. Sure if he summoned frogs OK RUN LIKE HELL! but I'm sure he's not that strong.

DonkeyBalls
07-02-2004, 10:18 PM
I doesnt have complete chakra control yet

YamaNekoX
07-03-2004, 12:44 AM
he's baka.
Has no idea what he's doing and just goes with his instinct and runs into a situation without thinking.

sakura711
07-03-2004, 01:02 AM
He's too strong. I think he can beat all of the gennins. 8)

Lukasz
07-03-2004, 05:05 AM
He isnt too strong. Ok he has kyuubi chakra which makes him the strongest. but it is nothing compared to hiashi, sennins or itachi. they would still kicked his ass.
Neji could kill Naruto (if naruto can be killed) without any problems.
Sakura doesnt matter
Sasuke has cursed seal which gives him equal power to naruto so.....

Aurora Dark
07-03-2004, 08:03 AM
I agree with Lukasz... Neji and Sasuke could have a good fight with Naruto, they wouldn't be completely owned or anything :P


I think it's interesting to see him becoming stronger... seems like his determination is finally getting him somewhere, so I see that as a good thing ;)

«Äñßû»
07-03-2004, 12:32 PM
Kakashi could stll beat him, Ero Sennin could too, and the Hokage could (if he was still alive), Orochimaru might be able to beat him. There is always going to be someone stronger than Naruto.

DonkeyBalls
07-03-2004, 02:29 PM
0ro could beat him so could kabuto and almost every jounin

Lukasz
07-03-2004, 02:32 PM
all jounin which we saw in anime can beat Naruto (even with kyuubi chakra). specialas dont count because they are not part of the show. :)
jounin has to kill somone like Sasuke or Konohamaru. after that we will see the same thing what happened when sasuke "died"

NarutoNineTails
07-03-2004, 02:49 PM
Of course Naruto is a bad ass. Would we be watching this anime if he was still at the level of Sakura? :P

narutofanboy
07-03-2004, 04:38 PM
shikamaru could probably kik his ass.....

naruto=STUPID as hell
Shikamaru= REALLY REALLY smart

all shikamaru has to do is.... think a good strategy and trick naruto and then naruto wil fall for trick and BAM!!

enigmatic_x
07-03-2004, 07:40 PM
yeah....shikamaru is my fav character....

Heres another thing, what about itachi?
I don't quite think naruto can level up to him just yet(by a few years yet)

bonkers
07-05-2004, 04:45 PM
How strong is that FROG thing he can summon, i mean , with that , he could most probably kick Kakashi's ass , not true ?

Lukasz
07-05-2004, 04:52 PM
baa. gamabunta can kick itachi's ass. orochimaru would have big problems with him (without summons) but he knows seals so he would be able to unsummon gamabunta.
but frog boss would not fight kakashi or any other good person. he doesnt listen to naruto. Naruto has to ask him :)

bonkers
07-05-2004, 04:59 PM
Didn't he accept naruto as his sabordinite(or something like that ?)

Lukasz
07-05-2004, 05:04 PM
yes. but naruto is not his master so he cannot give gama any orders. he has to ask him :P so gama will say NO and he will not fight kakashi.

Raistlin
07-05-2004, 05:05 PM
subordinate means he's like Naruto's sensei. :P

bonkers
07-05-2004, 05:09 PM
O , i see , thanks , I'm stil new to this stuf !!!

«Shîñôßì»
07-05-2004, 09:12 PM
No such thing :wink:

The Fifth
07-05-2004, 10:09 PM
Don't you think he's getting really strong, really fast? He can control large amounts of Kyuubi's charkura now, and he's only been able to unleash him for what...four or five months? I honestly think he got the resangan waaaaaay too fast...he's done in like a week (well he's only got one step to go) what took the Fourth (who was a genious) three years to master...I know learning isn't as hard as mastering, but still, I think it should've taken him a bit longer...*shrug* but then again he IS the main character so he should be advancing at a retardedly high pace lol.

Kitsuki
07-06-2004, 01:44 AM
He not all that great compared tot he other stronger characters in the show. Jounins, sennins and the s class criminals. And hes not event that strong compared to those characters when they where his age. Itachi was anbu and kakshi was chunin. and didn't the fourth create rasengan?? Cause if he created it it would take a hell of a lot longer than just learning a technique.

apolir
07-06-2004, 01:58 AM
i think hes becoming so strong so fast because hes the story of the most powerful hokage ever(or is gonna be later on), jiyira created the rasegan not the fourth. i think hes going along fine, he still has alot to learn in terms of techniques and control

Final Fate
07-06-2004, 02:33 AM
Come on guys Naruto isnt dumb, he doesnt just run in their like a complete idiot. During the fight with Neji he used shadowreplication to create a dummy as he dug through the ground to kick Nejis ass. He stuck an exploding tag on the knife when he fought gaara. He used some good tactics when fighting kiba. Neji and Sasuke could not beat Naruto no way in hell. And definatley not Shikamaru. Even the rasengan at the level Naruto knows it is powerful. Being able to summon Gamabunta doesnt hurt either. And being able to do mass shadow replication is rather nice too. And Naruto just doesnt give up. I dont think hes too strong, he is the main character though so he needs to progress quickly.

AvengerxZ
07-06-2004, 05:57 AM
I thought the 4th invented rasengan? Didn't jiyira say that the 4th mastered all eight levels of it?

Lukasz
07-06-2004, 07:12 AM
there are only three stages. dont know who invented it.l
Naruto is making huge progress but sasuke and neji too.
I believe Naruto is not the strongest gennin now. the strongest is neji. he lost because he was toying with naruto. when naruto used kyuubi chakra he was hell stronger than any chuunin. but neji fought him equaly.
I think Hyuuga are too strong. not naruto :)

bonkers
07-07-2004, 04:14 PM
Nah , if you think abt it , when naruto fought against neji he didn't even summon that frog(don't know the name) , and that would have tipped the scale. In other word, Naruto still held back against Neji ..........

Lukasz
07-07-2004, 04:18 PM
ekhem. naruto used kyuubi chakra. his strenght was equal to kurenai i think.
neji is the strongest gennin and he is stronger than most chuunins (i think)
i think he is too strong (i wanna see him again, because i dont like him now, but he changed)

NarutoNineTails
07-07-2004, 04:22 PM
Do you think Naruto would have been satisfied if he he beat Neji using Gama's help? He would not have summoned him against Neji

Also, Naruto doesn't control Gama. Gama decides if he wants to fight or not. Even if Naruto summoned Gama, I HIGHLY doubt he will fight another Konoha member especially for the purpose of winning chunnin match. Gama would be seriously pissed at Naruto for summoning him for that type of purpose and probably beat Naruto up himself.

Naruto holding back against Neji? R u kidding me. Without Kyubi power, he had no chance at all.

bonkers
07-07-2004, 04:24 PM
But isn't Neji older that Naruto , does anyone know how much older ??!! Cause if Naruto was his age , then there wouldn't be such a big difference in power , now would there (If naruto was trained by the pervert till he was the same age as neji) ????

Lukasz
07-07-2004, 04:26 PM
i agree. gama didnt even want to fight gaara. and he was sand ninja and enemy.

bonkers
07-07-2004, 04:27 PM
Ninetails , you told me that before , but Gama would have fought, i think.....

Anbu Dr J
07-07-2004, 04:33 PM
I thought the 4th invented rasengan? Didn't jiyira say that the 4th mastered all eight levels of it?
yes jiraiya said the fourth mastered THREE levels in three years but jiraiya made it.

NarutoNineTails
07-07-2004, 04:38 PM
I remember Jiraiya saying that the 4th created Rasengan...so how could Jiraiya "make it"?

bonkers
07-07-2004, 04:38 PM
ok , that's true , i give up , you guys win !!!!!

Lukasz
07-07-2004, 04:41 PM
back to the topic
naruto is not too strong.
he is genious. not smart genious he is.

NarutoNineTails
07-07-2004, 04:42 PM
Neji graduated a year before Naruto's class. So if Neji is older, probably one year older.

You can believe what you want but like what lukasz said, Gama didn't even want to fight an enemy of Naruto. Your logic doesn't make sense to me.

bonkers
07-07-2004, 04:45 PM
What do you mean , he's a genious

NarutoNineTails
07-07-2004, 04:49 PM
I agree w/ you lukasz...Naruto is a genious in battles. The ideas and tricks he combines w/ his Kage bunshins are quite amazing. The kage bunshin shuriken against Zabuza...a classic! The thousand years of pain vs Garra...another great one. Fooling Neji with a "passed out" kage bunshin...great idea. When he needs to be creative, Naruto is better than shikamaru in my opinion.

bonkers
07-07-2004, 04:53 PM
He's not called the "The nr 1 ninja at surprising people" for nothing ....

Lukasz
07-07-2004, 04:53 PM
he is very bad in theory. but during the fight he can come up with tactis which would lead to victory. we saw lots of examples. with kiba and with kakashi and sasuke too. (but they werent very complicated)

martian001
07-07-2004, 09:12 PM
....hhhmmm

naruto isn't as smart/clever as shikamaru, but he can come up with some clever stuff during battle or durting grave times and during those times only, but in normal situation, i wouldn't say he is slow, he is just like any other student. unlike shikmaru, that is what he does to past time he is SMART/CLEVER all his life, sort of, hes just lazy.....

but yeah, if shikamaru and naruto battles, naruto will have a hard time fighting him, but naruto will win becuase hes not just smart/clever, he has kyuubi, and determination to beat the other guy...

but still, SHIKAMARU IS SMARTER/CLEVERER than naruto.....

bonkers
07-15-2004, 02:31 AM
Grrrrrrrrrrr................... , You're so coooooooooooooolll

Thepimplishone
07-16-2004, 02:17 AM
if naruto gets stronger...sasuke's bound to get stronger as well...they're rivals remmber?

bonkers
07-16-2004, 05:26 AM
True , but ARE they really rivlas, cause , the last few ep , it seems like they are friends

Lukasz
07-16-2004, 06:37 AM
they are friends and they are rivals
like kakashi and gai
they are old rivals but theirs friendship is very strong.

Anbu Neji
07-16-2004, 07:24 AM
Naruto isnt that strong, hes still training and has alot of faults.

Anonymous
07-16-2004, 01:33 PM
I don't think he's strong...not yet...

HunterDylan
07-16-2004, 03:35 PM
Naruto is way to strong, its better that he is superstrong when is angry. But Naruto is very smart when it comes to battle.

bonkers
07-18-2004, 03:56 PM
mm.... , maby we'll see , in the next few eps how strong he realy is, in the fight against that guy that's with Orichimaru(Kyubu or something , can't remember)

bonkers
07-19-2004, 08:14 AM
Come on , 75% vs 5%
Hell there's almost more people that's uncertain !!!!
Let me put it this way...
Although Naruto can't "controle" that frog thing(donno his name), he's still very strong , maby even too strong. He is being trained by a very powerful guy,The PERVERT, so what i mean is , won't he BECOME tooooo strong ,with all the special !!!

Nine-Tails Possesed~
07-20-2004, 04:16 AM
Naruto is a great ninja, whether other people think so or not. I admit he's alittle off on most things, and a baka for one, but then again, his strength makes up for it! Plus he's the main character!! Who cares if his strength is huge or not, Naruto rules and that's that!! >0< HNYA!

bonkers
07-20-2004, 08:29 AM
OK ,OK , we all love naurto , an that's a fact(otherwize , why are you here). The q of being tOooO damn strong , well , we all know THAT's a fact.........

Nine-Tails Possesed~
07-20-2004, 10:25 PM
I blaim it on the Nine-Tail Fox that's sealed inside him! T_T It's not his fault if he is too strong right?

Aurora Dark
07-21-2004, 01:12 AM
If Naruto is too strong...

That means that many other characters are too strong as well, because there are still many ninja that have the power to defeat him.

(for example: Itachi, Orochimaru, Jiraya, Kimimaro, the Hokage, and I'm sure the list goes on...)

So I doubt that Naruto's too strong; he just got a lot better, so compared to his old self, it makes him look better than he is. He's finally becoming fair competition with his fellow genin and shinobis; that's all.

NarutoNineTails
07-21-2004, 01:30 AM
Kimimaro? who is that? I'm assuming he/she hasn't shown up in the anime yet...

obviously don't tell me anything else if that is the case....thx

Aurora Dark
07-21-2004, 02:03 AM
Kimimaro? who is that? I'm assuming he/she hasn't shown up in the anime yet...

obviously don't tell me anything else if that is the case....thx
He hasn't shown up in the anime.

That's why I didn't say anything else... I just said he was powerful, and stopped there :P

AWings
07-21-2004, 02:05 AM
oh i know who that is lol but from the manga i read it all yesterday

tipme
07-21-2004, 02:12 AM
i think what he means by too strong is that he'll never lose,
yes, there some down points like hes gonna die,
but he ALWAys comes back and beats up his enemy
i think it could be nice to maybe see him lose maybe once...

Super_Pervert
07-21-2004, 06:30 AM
To stop all ur assumptions of the frog helping him. The frog isnt apart of Naruto's strength he is just a companion like kiba's dog. In other words weilding the best sword doesn't make u the best swordsman or in this case the best shuriuken.
:D

Sxy n Jts
07-21-2004, 07:13 AM
I've changed my mind....

Naruto is not so strong, but if he full use of his potential.. it's the end!!!!! 8)

skyz69
07-21-2004, 08:08 AM
naruto's problem is that his taijutsu stinks! right now he has these powerful jutsus, but they're useless if he can't get the seals out in time, or actually land the punch for the rasengan.

and the fourth created rasengan...

Sxy n Jts
07-21-2004, 08:25 AM
YEAH!!!!!! YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!!

Aurora Dark
07-21-2004, 05:54 PM
To stop all ur assumptions of the frog helping him. The frog isnt apart of Naruto's strength he is just a companion like kiba's dog. In other words weilding the best sword doesn't make u the best swordsman or in this case the best shuriuken.
:D
Actually, that's not an accurate comparison...

Because Kiba's dog is basically a part of his fighting style. He is always there, and he helps him with almost all of his moves and special attacks. Kiba could fight without him, but I don't think he'd have a really tough time winning anything. He depends on Akamaru, consistently.

The Frog is simply an extra thing for Naruto, whereas Kiba's dog is almost a part of him. The frog doesn't respect or is half as loyal to Naruto as Akamaru is to Kiba.


So if anything... Naruto and his frog is even -less- of a guaranteed win than it was before XD Ay, poor Naruto.. lol

NarutoNineTails
07-21-2004, 08:37 PM
Naruto is Gama's subordinate.

Gama > Naruto

Naruto takes orders from Gama not the other way around.

psypho
07-22-2004, 06:26 PM
I'd normally root for Naruto, but in truth, he's still a chump.

Sxy n Jts
07-24-2004, 08:43 AM
TOO STRONG?????????

I know he's still a chump, but sometimes he's not.

sakura711
07-24-2004, 08:47 AM
Why?!?? He's strong, isn't he?!? 8)

Sasuke_13
07-24-2004, 09:24 AM
I think Naruto is pretty strong!

psypho
07-24-2004, 07:16 PM
yeah, whent he pressure is on, but can he call out his full power in times when he needs to end a fight fast? ahhh, obviously so far, no.

Fei Fong Wong
07-25-2004, 11:34 PM
...Rock Lee's better.

«Shîñôßì»
07-26-2004, 12:05 AM
I still think there is no such thing as naruto being to strong. he needs strength to make up for a lack of brain power.

Uzumaki Naruto
07-26-2004, 08:32 AM
He is really strong.

8)

Super_Pervert
07-27-2004, 03:49 AM
Nice explanation and correction of my post but naruto isn't so strong, especially in comparison to people like Itachi and most crinimals w/o the foxes chakra. But of course with the foxes chakra he is a force to be rockoned with, that y Itachi's group wants him...

Lukasz
07-27-2004, 10:14 AM
yeah. naruto is not too strong. he is very strong but not too strong :P :P
he is just super ninja
his strenght it nothing compare to sennins, itachi's or even kakashi's strenght.

Garrisononizuka
07-27-2004, 11:05 AM
will ,not now if he can treat things like sazuke