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AnimeHentaiBaka
06-27-2004, 07:13 PM
The first time he tried he had the help of the Sand-Nins and even with the help of the Sand-Nins he failed. If he does somehow get enough force to form a Ninja army, could he really take on Konoha?

If he does try to destroy Konoha, even if he does find a way to restore his arms, he would be without

1. The Sand-Nins (I would doubt that any other Country would side up with Orochimaru)

2. A surprise attack ( He had the Chuunin exam to cover up his plans, after the Konoha invasion though, it seems that Konoha is more aware of his actions)

3. The 4 Sound-Nins with the Level 2 Curse (It seems that they're all dead... They made a barrier which stopped all help from the outside)

4. The only reason he won was because he used Kinjitsu which summoned the 1st and 2nd... Due to the 3rds Jutsu their souls are long gone which means it would be a 1vs1 fight with the 5th Hokage (Tsunade)

The only thing helping Orochimaru right now, is the strength of Konoha, even though they did suffer great lost, I am pretty sure that the Sound Nins suffered the same if not more losses.

Etc..Etc.. and Etc...

Discuss

W4ph3r
06-27-2004, 09:08 PM
Hells YES he could!

L2Mc
06-28-2004, 07:31 AM
I believe he could, but first he would have to attack with their strongest out of the way. divide and conquer.

koji_alpha
06-28-2004, 11:14 AM
I really don't think so. He at a point where he's backed into a corner with his arms in that condition and the only real person left by his side is Kabuto. With Kimimaru dead, Sasuke is his last hope. After Naruto wins (you KNOW he'd better!) against him, Oro doesnt have a prayer. Tsunade or Jiraiya will hunt him down and finish him off, (maybe after someone kills Kabuto, like Kakashi or something...) And as for any kind of attack, yes 1) Konoha is currently on guard and 2) Oro can't rally that kind of force anywhere (especially since now we know the Sand is going to help Konoha out a bit...)

Sandaime said it best: "Your ambition will not suceed Orochimaru!"

structure85
06-28-2004, 02:09 PM
I'd say it all depends on how and when he does it. If he either waited until after Konoha drop their guard or while their too busy, (like now,) he'd probably have half a chance. Plus he'd need some serious support because he'd have to deal with Tsunade and Jiraiya and Naruto and the Anbu. Other than that, he's got it easy.

Anbu Dr J
06-28-2004, 02:42 PM
nope.he should slither his scaly @$$ right back down to the sound village.He would never be able to destroy the leaf. Now that theres Tsuande AND Jiraiya.

memai
06-28-2004, 02:58 PM
Hurm.... well...

I think he'd just... err...

HE'D KILL WITH THAT BIG SEXY SNAKE OF HIS... AGAIN! And anyway, he could kill Jiraiya in a second. Tsunade also. He'd kick major leaf ass.

But you know me and my obsession with Orochi... just lookit my icon~!

YamaNekoX
06-28-2004, 08:49 PM
doubt it....
There is still Tsunade and Jiraiya, which Orochimaru can't beat, and Itachi can't beat, so yea.

itach1
06-29-2004, 11:56 AM
He had trouble bringing down The third who is older then the crust between your toes. Now he would have to fight Tsunade and Jiraiya.

L2Mc
06-29-2004, 11:59 AM
again. He can't take the two. he would need Kabuto's aid... Maybe kabuto is the one pulling the strings.

Anbu Dr J
06-29-2004, 02:40 PM
even with kabuto he wouldnt be able to defeat jiraiya and tsuande. Kabuto is kakashi's level so kakashi can just take him on

L2Mc
06-29-2004, 03:50 PM
i wasn't saying kabuto could best konoha, I'm just saying maybe he is using orochimaru for his own goals...Orochimaru can't even take Kabuto right now...

B166ER
06-30-2004, 08:53 AM
yeah you're right about that, I don't think kabuto stay on oro's side for free, and considering that we know he's one of the smartest shinobi of the manga (with shikimaru who rules them all !!!), it would'nt be surprising to learn that kabuto betrayed oro in a way or another...

narutofanboy
06-30-2004, 10:27 AM
no.... betrayal is probably the most evil thing sumonee can do... that is why orochimaru is such an evil person.. he betrayed his master, his village, the sand village, and all his lil followers..
kabuto is not that kind of person.. if he were goin to betray orochi
he would do it for sum really strong reason.
kabuto is supR KOOL!! even though naruto kiked his ass but then kabuto was like haha u suck i can heal myself muaha

random_kuree
06-30-2004, 10:53 PM
The only way oro can conquer, is everyone that's strong...dead. Then it be a piece of cake. But since konoho is such a strong village, it won't really fall so easily.

So realisticly No, if you see it as everyone like tsunade something like that dropped dead? then yes...yes he could.

W4ph3r
07-01-2004, 12:35 AM
people.....lets just wait and she whats happens

L2Mc
07-01-2004, 08:35 AM
sure, I'll wait and "she" what happens. speculating on what you think is happening is so much fun though.

narutofanboy
07-01-2004, 09:50 PM
no it cant happen cuz orochimaru is SOOo lAst WEEK!

DypHAl
07-02-2004, 07:26 AM
IF tsunade had cured is arms he could personally have killed all of their shinobi... the 3rd was hokage for a reason...
He might have been able to take itachi if he was lucky... but that would probably involve crushing him with SUPAH huge snake... itachi is the sharingan succsessor, but oro is experienced...
anyway, oro could kill the shinobi there with his arms healed, but since the only one who could do that is now hokage of the village, i doubt it.

oh, and btw last week? he has occupied over half the series as main enemy... he still is

nawar
07-02-2004, 09:08 AM
i think oro stands a great chanse....he doesnt need that many great shinoby, just take em out 1 by one

L2Mc
07-02-2004, 09:12 AM
well, it doesn't seem like he has anyone shinobi but Kabuto left... All his other shinobi are gone...

nawar
07-02-2004, 09:22 AM
dont know about that.....maybe some got away...maybe he has others...or he might even use akatsuky... they help him to take out konoha, and he gives them naruto and gaara

L2Mc
07-02-2004, 09:27 AM
I really don't think that Orochimaru could take gaara. fe would definately need his arms for that.

B166ER
07-02-2004, 10:36 AM
do we have an explanation concerning the reason oro wants the leaf down ??
I forgot or miss this part of the narration :oops:

L2Mc
07-02-2004, 11:02 AM
I really don't remember, something about revenge for something...

DypHAl
07-02-2004, 02:05 PM
wasn't it because old man sarutobi didn't make him yondaime?
so he was pissed and made a crusade VS konoha...
but he was already loco though

DonkeyBalls
07-02-2004, 02:31 PM
hey uh this is random but I didnt wanna start a new thread, what chapter of the manga is where the anime is now? anyone know?

L2Mc
07-02-2004, 02:40 PM
17, 18, 19 I think it's somewhere in there....

Anbu Dr J
07-02-2004, 03:22 PM
hmm probably...volume....18ish...

narutofanboy
07-03-2004, 06:23 PM
BAM!