5 TK Naruto? What would happen..

[Techno Dude]

Mite it be possible for him to go 5tails?

[DonEmu]

he would die almost instantly :p, this is so spam

[Collateral]

i dont think he would die instandly but of course he cant stay long on this level so this is a kind of spam =)

[regina777]

We know it is possible for him to go 5-tails. But will it require him to use his blood like in 4TKN? if it is going to require the same kinda of mechanics- then i hope somebody like jiraiya or Tsunade offers some sort of counter for the damages- otherwise he will die early.

Or hopefully that level of transformation requires a different route as compared to him using his own skin and blood. Do you remember his skin peeling off for the 4-tail transformation? i really dont want to see that again.

[DonEmu]

well if it is like gaara's changing to shuukaku then maybe he could survive, but if its anything like the 4tk transformation, then its kinda pointless , he would most likely die...it might happen though...

[Shino18]

well if it is like gaara's changing to shuukaku then maybe he could survive, but if its anything like the 4tk transformation, then its kinda pointless , he would most likely die...it might happen though...

its diffrent than the way of gaaras because he has a stronger seal and all he has to do is fall asleep for shuukaku to come out

[DonEmu]

u dont understand what i was saying, and gaara doesnt only have to fall asleep to wake shuukaku, when he falls in deep sleep shuukaku eats away at his personality, and when he transforms his body, and he sleeps then shuukaku takes over, but gaara can release the shuukaku body and fight with it all but the fact that he would be unstable mentally...and its not really that gaara's seal is the stronger than naruto's is more like the sealing and bijuu's are different...

what i was refering to was how naruto releases the kyuubi, with 4tk, his skin is practically ripped off and blood is shed( kinda like the werewolf transformation in the movie Van Hellsing)... was implying that if his release of kyuubi was similar to how gaara released shuukaku then 5tk would be possible for use in battle, but if it was anything like his transformation into 4tk, then there would be no point cause he would most likely not survive in the long/short( depending how u look at it) run.

Ps. i hate having to write soo much damnit. :mad:

[Uchiha Adrian]

i dont think it will kill him but most likely will damage his body insanely

[narutofan79]

its due to immense amount of chakra he might be able to build up to it.

[BBQX]

This is my what would happen thread...
Though it seems a little silly I often ask my self what would happen...
What are your thoughts?

What happens if Naruto were to pull out a 5th tail?
I think we would see everyone(Koha, Orochimaru, Akatsuki) become real good friends real fast.

6th tail? Naruto dies?
7th? Chuck Norris dies?
8th Orochimaru dies / Sasuke dies / well most of everyones dead at this point...


9 tails?? ...

[liloyeng]

well if the 5th tail came out. naruto will have 5 tails. ok i being dumb.

i ask my self this question, too. i dont know, but i hope that nine nartuo will become friends. and nine tail will allow naruto to use his power without any bad effects afterwards.

[Rainz]

I'm not sure if Naruto would die if a 5th tail came but I know for damn sure he'd overpower just about anyone short of the Akatsuki leader.

[Chidongan]

how the hell would chuck norris die with 7 tails?!?

[BBQX]

its not his lucky #???

[Spriggan430]

if naruto dies on 6th tail how he gonna kill people!....I think the 5th tail will cause him to go into even more of a rampage and cause severe.. maybe permanent damage to his body like tearing muscles or something?

[BBQX]

I forget.... I think they talked about it briefly, but if Naruto dies does the Fox go with him? After what the fox said to Sasuke I have my doubts that it does. So if Naruto dies everyone is jacked.

[Spriggan430]

I think if he does or goes far enough into kyuubi for the fox is released... (as to the best of my memory).... i might have to check on that if someone doesn't come along and correct/agree w/ us

[Hollister]

oro takes sasakes body and hijacks the akutsaki, then he puts all the bijuus into his own body and then naruto has to go 9tails to fight oro/sasake

[Spriggan430]

if he goes 9 tails i think ti was stated that he will die...

[liloyeng]

There was a phrase used in manga that i think was setting what will happen when the 5th tail came out. well it wasn't setting for the 5th tail event but in general the power of the over powering naruto.

I dont think that the number of tail is very important in part. i dont think kishi is going to go in detail what the 5th tail does, or 6th, or 7th, or 8th, or 9th. cause if he didn't then he would give more detail about the 1th and 2nd and 3rd tails. number of tails will be a Indicator to help us gauge naruto's power, but not a detail or strong indicator.

naruto's new sensei(idont know his name the dude whom use wood) anyways naruto's new sensei said he had a special power that kept he alive after the nine tails give him large doses of power. i think kishi will focus of this to intro us to naruto's powers. Like he has so hidden powers other than the nine tails. Anyways it's kind the orphan theme(orphan grows up bad circumstance has some kind of curse of orcale of damnation. when he grows up and is goings through life threathing and crazy challenages. he finds he nitch then is the hero.)

[Auske13]

I think tht Naruto will become the size of 9 tailed fox and the fox will takeover and proceed with taking over the world
afterwards naruto would die

[Spriggan430]

No yamato ( his new "sensei") stated that narutos own chakra was the only reason he could withstand the kyuubi immense chakra..i still think he will die if he reaches that i remember reading it im pretty sure

[Auske13]

well he would've died if yamato wasn't there wen he went 4 tails so i dont even think he is capable of going 5

[Auske13]

Yamato saved his life wen he went 4 tails so 5 wuld probably be to much

srry i thot i didnt podt the one b4 the 2nd one

[Spriggan430]

you cant psot 2 in a row.. if you have something to add click the edit button on the post instead of this... you can get banned i think if you do this too excessively... just click edit and stuf.. only post once until someone reply's then you cna post again.. if you wanna change/add more use the edit button

[Auske13]

o ok thanx 4 tellin me

[regina777]

This is my what would happen thread...
Though it seems a little silly I often ask my self what would happen...
What are your thoughts?

What happens if Naruto were to pull out a 5th tail?
I think we would see everyone(Koha, Orochimaru, Akatsuki) become real good friends real fast.

6th tail? Naruto dies?
7th? Chuck Norris dies?
8th Orochimaru dies / Sasuke dies / well most of everyones dead at this point...


9 tails?? ...

Similar thread already exists. Since it has gathered steam again i will merge this with it.

[Spriggan430]

sounds good....I think that the pain wil lbe to unbearable or start to cause permanent damage to him, any othe thoughts anyone?

[Auske13]

in the end i think he wont even go 5th tail
he will do something to kill the demon and take his chakra and merge with his own

[Spriggan430]

I just think that the kyuubi will respect him or soemthing and the seal will weaken to the point where he could pretty much get out but.... he respects naruto and just stays in him as a vessel or something

[KageNaruto]

naruto does not die from 4tk, he is able to endure it, but barely.

imo, 5tk, hell only be able to last a few minutes, less than 5.

6tk hed die

[narutofanone]

Naruto wont' die from 5 tails. He will only have his skin tear tear off excessively and get remade by the Kyuubi's healing properties. This will happen repetitively and his overall lifespan will decrease

[Spriggan430]

Mind telling me where you got this info?.... anyway i am almost positive i remember them saying something about 8 or 9 tails will kill him off ... i think past a certain amount of tails it wil lcause permanent damage to his limbs and stuff

[Auske13]

no they said he would've died if yamato wasn't there and that's why they put yamato on his team

[jounin101]

i agree, i really think chuck norris will die if naruto does 7 tails.lol.

seriously, if naruto went 5TK, i think kyuubi would take control to an extent, and as 6TK,7TK, 8TK and 9TK take effect, kyuubi gains more control to a point where naruto is in that jail cell, while kyuubi runs loose in their body.

the manga doesnt say that 4TK is "killing" naruto, but it is shortening his life span like tsunade's jutsu.

[mandelak]

but who knows maybe with training and as he gets older he will be able to use more tails just like now he is 15 and stronger h can take 4tk barely, but maybe when he is like 17 or something he'd be able to control that state and be able to grow more tails but the extra tails will just injure him. what i ean is as he grows and gets sronger he might be able to use more tails

[Auske13]

well maybe i misread or somethin srry
ya i think the same with kyubbi he took so much control with 4 tails so you'd think w/ 5,6,7,8,9 he wuld just kill everything and at 7 tails he wuld fight chuck norris he wuld have the upperhand until he shoots a huge rasengan at him and blow his texas walker ranger ass to bits

[Spriggan430]

no but i still think that 9tk will fully release the seal of the kyuubi and he will roam free once again... BUt in time i think kyuubi will respect and let naruto have his power and just naruto learns to control it and use it as his own chakra instead of how it turns him into a primal type beast like it edoes now when he goes 4tk and such

[KageNaruto]

naruto at the current point will definitly die by 6, or 7 at the max.

[Auske13]

i agree but somehow he will tame it like a dog
with the help of yamato of course
maybe he'll go with clone 4 tail and yamato will save him and slowly he'll control it

[mandelak]

yeah for sure he can hardly take 4tk if he goes more he will die for sure unless there is a miracle since ppl always think he is gonna die and he always ends up living.

[Spriggan430]

i still like your idea that as he grows he can go farther.. but the seal is still weakening.... maybe once he gets strong enough the kyuubi will respect him and just lend him his full and complete power to mix w/ his own chakra

[Auske13]

iunno maybe since he got stronger the seal gets stronger so the more he trains the more he gains control over it, but i hope it happens soon i cant wait like 3 more years
lol

[Spriggan430]

well... jaraiya said that the seal has been getting weaker.. that is why naruto has gone it kyuubi tail alot quicker then he used to.. even though naruto has gotten stronger the seal has weakened so that theory doesn't work i dont think

[narutofanone]

The seal isn't the problem. If you remember, Jiraiya saw the seal and said that the purpose for the seal is broken into two parts:
1)The Kyuubi remains sealed in Naruto.
and more improtantly
2)Naruto can use the Kyuubi's chakra with his own.
The emotional surge required to bring forth the Kyuubi's chakra does mental damage. Anyways, Naruto might not die directly from having more tails. The Kyuubi's healing would remedy the side effects. However, the strain on his body will kill him.

[Spriggan430]

he can use some of the kyuubi chakra w/ his own not all of it... like fulling fusing their chakra's into one w/o killing him.... more at the end of the story if it does happen tho

[Auske13]

im really suprised the kyubi just hasn't already come all the way out
maybe he is starting to like naruto and respect him like the cheif frog
maybe he wants to see oruchimaru be killed by the hands of naruto cuz he feels so much hate towards the 4th hokage and oruchimaru killed a hokage and summoned hokages and saw how much power he has so he wants to kill him in a child to show the strength he has

to have a child kill oruchimaru with a bit of his strength wuld be funny to him

or maybe he thinks his blood will taste good

lol

that was long

[Spriggan430]

on that nnote.... the kyuubi can't come all the way out yet due to the seal....and i don't think that the kyuubi cares much about oro he probably thinks he is worthless.. i think he wants to see naruto's growth and make him strong... also to rape sasuke!

[Auske13]

o hell yea rape sauske i mean he blew him up in naruto's head lol
but i bet he wishes he was in sauske more then naruto

that wuld be hella tite powerful kyubbi uchiha speed, strenght, skill, cakra, sharingan

[Spriggan430]

no thanks... personally that would be no fun... naruto has the determination and he himself may not possess any powerful kekkai genkai but his determination and his growth are amazing.... even w/o the kyuubi he is a very powerful nin... once he learns and grows to his full potential he will rival the greatest of the hokage and rape sasuki

[Auske13]

that's wut we thot wen he came back from the 3 years then sauske had to cheat and take drugs

and in the end we have to realize as naruto trains sauske trains

well im sure in a good year he will be better then sauske cuz of that new clone training

but y didn't kakashi tell him b4?

he wuld be so much tougher

and jirya should've known bout it

wait jirya's an idiot

[Spriggan430]

no, jariaya is jsut a horny old man... he is strong and smart but loves the ladies more :)

[Auske13]

he probably told naruto wut to do then he took his money and got hookers

[mandelak]

yeh or he probably most time naruto had to train in his sexy jutsu form lol thatwould be funny jiraya wouldnt be able to train him he'll be to busy checkin out some fake ass

[Auske13]

i want to know narutos new sexy jutsu remember wen he saw his old apprentice
then sakura punched him

[mandelak]

lol yeah when konohamru done it and he was like dont do that no more, that is old shiet i got an even more peverted one, bloody sakura ruins the moment

[B0ukun]

yeah, sakura's a hater.

[mandelak]

at least let him do it then punch him

[Auske13]

yea i mean come on let a man be a man

if we could use jutsu we would be doing it to

but i think almost all of the 7 sword shinobi are gay

i mean zabuza, then that lightning guy they all have gay guys with them i mean haku wtf

[mandelak]

lol sasuke is definately gay i reckon no offence to all the sasuke ppl out there because i mean he coulda had any girl he wants and he chose none while he was training he could have one cooking his meals one for massages one for everything he needed, naruto wished he was in sasukes position with all the girls i reckon he wouldve luved it

[Auske13]

ya i agree but i would've chose sakura i mean she would do anything and ino's stupid

i think he was busy thinking about his brohter (homo bros) hehe i mean he wears nail polish queer

[Spriggan430]

naruto would've had one for every day of the week... lol

I still say 5tk naruto permanentally damages him

[DonEmu]

Yeah, i say 5tk kills him slowly and he has permanent mental damage,ie, from kyuubi invading his consciousness...

[narutofanone]

Kyuubi controls his whole body. Kyuubi can't sacrifice Naruto or it dies out.

[DonEmu]

Actually its quite plausible that given the amount of kyuubi chakra being released at the time, death to naruto could actually result in release of kyuubi. Imagine if at 5 tails kyuubi is actually ripping out of naruto since enough of his chakra is out to brake the seal. Kyuubi is already in semi control during 4tk( he is a mini kyuubi of sorts)...

[narutofanone]

That is assuming that Kyuubi has overcome the seal completely. If the seal can't hold Kyuubi back, its second function kicks in. The second role is to channel the Kyuubi chakra into Naruto. Kyuubi isn't "released". It is allowed to use its chakra to improve Naruto's abilities. If Naruto dies, it dies. Only if it were to be sealed elsewhere outside Naruto would it survive. For example, Akatsuki has the means to seal tailed beasts without letting them die. That is because a container of some sort is prepared to receive the tailed beasts. Only in that sort of scenario could the Kyuubi live and Naruto die.
Note: This is all completely speculative.

[Auske13]

yea if the chakra channeled into naruto (from the seals second reaction) killed him the kyubbi will go with him, that's why he can't come out and why he only lends him a little of his power

while in garra's case it's more of a 60-40 realationship were garra controls the body (60%) his demon is using it as more of a container so it can come it with it's (40%) ruling

[B0ukun]

Actually I think if Kyuubi were to get enough Chakra out he may be able to use Naruto's body as a skeleton like it did at 4tk. Naruto was in no control then. As Yamato noticed, Naruto's body was little more than a skeleton for the chakra. I think had Naruto not had himself sealed he would have gone 9tk and that would have been all she wrote for Naruto.

[DonEmu]

Actually i wrote a page long post why kyuubi can go free if naruto dies while in higher tailed forms possibly but then my pc crashed and i am so damn lazy to type again...

[BBRS]

naruto = 5 tails = world ownage = death to all = naruto dies...

[Auske13]

but why would he want to i mean naruto would be dead

maybe so he can go into towns being unnoticed but who's not gonna notice a guy with 9 chakra tails and catching anything it touches on fire

i mean i probably wouldn't

lol

[B0ukun]

All this kyuubi talk got me thinking. Naruto has this crazy ability to withstand Kyuubi's chakra and not die from being completely engulfed by it. What if Naruto wasn't related to yondaime at all but in Tsunade's family and related to Shodai. Shodai had the ability to supress the a bijuu and as we see it even works on Kyuubi to an extend. Could it be possible that Naruto only looks like the forth do to some residual side effect of the sealing. and he's really related to the first?

[Auske13]

iunno dude the author isn't that good at tying the family stuff together and plus i kinda think it wuld ruin it somehow

[KageNaruto]

iunno dude the author isn't that good at tying the family stuff together and plus i kinda think it wuld ruin it somehow

what an arrogant assumption.

[Auske13]

well im just making an infrence from the facts i have
were did u get that kewl naruto kyubbi pic?

[liloyeng]

the 5 th comes out maybe naruto grows some red hair all over this body. his clothes will buried away and body cover with red hair.

[Ichee]

This thread is dumb as hell, The author of this thread has collossal piles of shit for fucking brains.

Reason:

This thread is too damn specific; 5 tails.
It needs to be more general as in the levels of Narutos transformations.

Also the topic post made by the author is a stupid fucking question. Hes asking the question as though everybody or somebody knows. Nobody fucking saw 5 tails you dickhead, don't ask such a dumbass question.

Anyway, I want to insult you more but I got to go and take a shit.

[liloyeng]

This thread is dumb as hell, The author of this thread has collossal piles of shit for fucking brains.

Reason:

This thread is too damn specific; 5 tails.
It needs to be more general as in the levels of Narutos transformations.

Also the topic post made by the author is a stupid fucking question. Hes asking the question as though everybody or somebody knows. Nobody fucking saw 5 tails you dickhead, don't ask such a dumbass question.

Anyway, I want to insult you more but I got to go and take a shit.

no you didn't stop to take a shit, you are a shit. hehehhehehe

be nice now
Is was somewhat of a good trend 77 posts so far and going up
just cause you dont like others do (anyways, this is what naruto would of said)

[darklighter]

I wonder who has shit for brains? the person who made a thread that is admittedly too specific or the person who comes unto a thread that he despises for the express purpose of insulting the creator of said thread. If it is so stupid why would you waste your time posting on it??

Rhetoric question

[liloyeng]

I wonder who has shit for brains? the person who made a thread that is admittedly too specific or the person who comes unto a thread that he despises for the express purpose of insulting the creator of said thread. If it is so stupid why would you waste your time posting on it??

Rhetoric question

it is because it is his holy calling to insult that which he finds annoying, which is most of all things which consist of this world. it is his belief that all things will come into an perfect order by his insulting words.

hehehehe ok ok i being mean.

[B0ukun]

Liloyeng, that was probably the most prolific and insightful thing, though it could have been sumed up by saying it's just what Ichee does. Ichee is Ichee.

[liloyeng]

hehehe boukun, your funny. a criticism with a compliment within a same sentence. and also used my name to create more of a personal comment. hehehe let me try
boukun i have deep respect your assessments which will also be a great blessing to those around you, however your understanding of the topic is first needed to give valid advice.

i personal like to criztize frist then compliment like
boukun, your understanding of the topic is not full; however your efforts and intends proof most comforting and virtuous.(or proof most helpful and appreciated.)

[narutofanone]

The thread is good. Just because its not very general doesn't mean that its bad. If you don't like it, don't try to post and make others support your view.

[B0ukun]

hehehe boukun, your funny. a criticism with a compliment within a same sentence. and also used my name to create more of a personal comment. hehehe let me try
boukun i have deep respect your assessments which will also be a great blessing to those around you, however your understanding of the topic is first needed to give valid advice.

i personal like to criztize frist then compliment like
boukun, your understanding of the topic is not full; however your efforts and intends proof most comforting and virtuous.(or proof most helpful and appreciated.)

Thats cause I'm lazy to an extent. i usually dont reaad the entire thread and look at the shorter posts. if I don't get the gist of it I follow the last post. More of less like walking into a conversation in the middle fo it.

[liloyeng]

Thats cause I'm lazy to an extent. i usually dont reaad the entire thread and look at the shorter posts. if I don't get the gist of it I follow the last post. More of less like walking into a conversation in the middle fo it.

come on, i was not serious about you not knowing the topic. i dont really care, i just made that up to have a criticism. hehehe i just thought your way of thinking was interesting.

hehehe i can use the sharingan to understand you, SHARINGAN

personal question how old are you? dont answer if you dont want too.

[B0ukun]

Hey, I just told the truth.

[liloyeng]

Hey, I just told the truth.

is his post in defense? i was not attacking, hehehehe

[narutofanone]

Sorry if my posts come off wrong. I mean no disrespect or offense to anybody.

[B0ukun]

is his post in defense? i was not attacking, hehehehe

no defense, just joking.

[narutofanone]

And peace fell upon the thread.(How corny is this?)

[liloyeng]

the art of putting someone in a agreeable mind set is so funny, anyways i better write somethink about the 5 tail or this will be branded as a spam, so.

the 5 tail, i think, will make naruto turn into a girl. hehehee

[B0ukun]

I think thats just as much spam as the last few posts. Though it atleast refers to Naruto.

I don't personally think we'll se 5tk ever. I think the next time Naruto uses that much Kyuubi Chakra he's going to have a lot moer control over it. It'll be more like, "Look I don't like you and you don't like me. Lets get through this and we can get back to that."

Kyubi will more or less agree. "If you die I die, lets get it over with." type of statement

[Hidden Ninja]

idk, there may be one time that he goes and uses the kyuubi just out of sheer anger. he still has his temper. but i don't think it will be 5 tails. could be more, in which there is no choice but to have the kyuubi removed. but somehow naruto survives.

[liloyeng]

ninetail tells him if he removes the seal on the gate then the nine tail will have complete total or he will have nine tails complete power. obseverly, kishi is setting it up where naruto let ninetail have full power. i think cause naruto will be in a situation where he is very deserated(sorry bad spell, i had bad teacher growing up)

[Azure Wrath]

i think we will see more tails, but not neccesarrily 5... if that makes any sense. we never saw much if the 2tk and 3tk, we only saw 1tk and 4tk.... so maybe 5 will be skipped. to a degree, i agree with boukon, but i think they need to show us the true power of the kyuubi before the end of the series...

[liloyeng]

i said the same thing awhile ago. with the same reasoning.

[B0ukun]

I'm not sure. If he gain's kyuubi's respect he may be able to use the power without gaining tails and losing control. Thats what I think is going to happen. Naruto will eventually have access to all of Kyuubi's chakra without having to gain tails and going crazy. thats what i think is the next evalution of Naruto.

[liloyeng]

I'm not sure. If he gain's kyuubi's respect he may be able to use the power without gaining tails and losing control. Thats what I think is going to happen. Naruto will eventually have access to all of Kyuubi's chakra without having to gain tails and going crazy. thats what i think is the next evalution of Naruto.

yea, but i dont think naruto like that, i think his values wont let him treat nine tail that way. he would rather work with than work agaisnt nine tails.

[B0ukun]

True but right now the kyuubi is working against Naruto so he will have to flip the tables on kyubi. Naruto will have to make Kyubi respect him, which it doesn't, then they can properly work together.

[liloyeng]

i think the ninetails is does respect naruto me his own way. examples:

kuubi tell sasuke he will be sorry if he killed naruto. paraphrase"puck, this is my the homie, if you wanna fighte yo gotza goz though mez. alright, puck"

kuubi telling naruto he has guts to blackmail ninetails.

kuubi saying naruto is a extraorignal(i for got where this is at, but anyways i think it's right)

i think the kuubi knows naruto has a power which helps him control the kuubi powers.

[narutofanone]

Naruto's control over the Kyuubi chakra and the emergence of the tails in general needs to be shown more. Naruto needs to show that he can manage the raging chakra.

[Ichee]

no you didn't stop to take a shit, you are a shit. hehehhehehe

be nice now
Is was somewhat of a good trend 77 posts so far and going up
just cause you dont like others do (anyways, this is what naruto would of said)

LOL. liloyeng.......... wow. Funny thing is that your fucking doing what you told me not to do.

Anyway, as I can see you want me to bash you with insults but for once I'm not going to do to you. As I saw you play fag tag with Boukon and talking about me. I came to the conclusion, that your one of my fans.

I know your on my dick and you want my autograph, but don't reply to my posts unless I give your ass permission.

[liloyeng]

LOL. liloyeng.......... wow. Funny thing is that your fucking doing what you told me not to do.

Anyway, as I can see you want me to bash you with insults but for once I'm not going to do to you. As I saw you play fag tag with Boukon and talking about me. I came to the conclusion, that your one of my fans.

I know your on my dick and you want my autograph, but don't reply to my posts unless I give your ass permission.

wow you know your right, hehehehehe i am your favor fan.
lol you pretty piss, hehehehe freakly lol

i think i wrote that i was bashing you too, hehehehe lol
i guess keep track of my posts if you see that i do it offen. i guess your my fan too.
i wonder if we were face to face, if you would hit me. hehehe i pretty small and cant defense myself very good, thats not sacasic i am short for my height. however most people probably wouldn't hit me since i am short. ehehehe lol

anyways i better write something about 5 tail or it is spam so:

in one of my last statement about the 5 tail, i wrote that it didn't matter how much tail or saying that it was not a immportant indicator to gauge nartuo's ppower. i think a saw another person say the same thing. so i feel more confient about my statement. i hope people will start to believe in this too.

[mandelak]

well i think naruto would be able to handle it now after the training not like 4tk he will be really hurt and almost die but i mean if his training was equiv of 20 yrs or so thn im sure he can handle more tails now

[liloyeng]

lol ichee will crush u with insults, im surprised i havent seen him go nuts at no body lol dont go against him in insulting ppl

well i think naruto would be able to handle it now after the training not like 4tk he will be really hurt and almost die but i mean if his training was equiv of 20 yrs or so thn im sure he can handle more tails now

hehehe i dont really care if he goes nuts. lol

i was thinking that training was going to help control ninetails. in truth he should get old by 20 years too, if the effects care on.

[mandelak]

wt get old how is he gonna get old, the training that kakshi put him through was equivalent to around that long i thnk or maybe it was 6 months or something ANYWAYS thats not the point if he trains like that he wouldnt get older he'd just get stroger

[liloyeng]

wt get old how is he gonna get old, the training that kakshi put him through was equivalent to around that long i thnk or maybe it was 6 months or something ANYWAYS thats not the point if he trains like that he wouldnt get older he'd just get stroger

i quess i tell you the logical bewteen it.

we dont know what carries back to the onwer of the clone, but only the memories so far. however memories are also part of the body. memories are created by little contector in the brain. therefore we know that the contectors return to the owner. therefore the mind will become old. the body becomes old because of the lack of protein supply to the body. we dont know if the bodies lack of protien during the clone will carry on. however we know mind will. and the mind should die out. if this is the case.

[HarlemDuelists]

personally.. if naruto went 5tk i assume he would not die but he would lose control of his mind, he couldnt even control 4tk so his life would be cut drastically and he would be out of control and from there on the seal would break and out goes 6tk 7tk then just totally lose control of himself and then he would die. but from 5tk no he wouldnt die instantly

[mandelak]

i quess i tell you the logical bewteen it.

we dont know what carries back to the onwer of the clone, but only the memories so far. however memories are also part of the body. memories are created by little contector in the brain. therefore we know that the contectors return to the owner. therefore the mind will become old. the body becomes old because of the lack of protein supply to the body. we dont know if the bodies lack of protien during the clone will carry on. however we know mind will. and the mind should die out. if this is the case.

i dont get wat u mean sorry,if they lack protein wat do u mean if naruto is training with the kage bunshins how does that make him lose protein??? im lost on this one completely

[liloyeng]

i dont get wat u mean sorry,if they lack protein wat do u mean if naruto is training with the kage bunshins how does that make him lose protein??? im lost on this one completely

oh that how the body dies, the lack of protien makes the body ages. there is ways to lessen the lack of protien to make the body live longer; however the lack of protien accures even if you try your best.(or that atleast we dont know how a way to provide suffient protein to the body)

so when the clones are appear they should also being having a lack of protien in the body.

when the clone dies kishi does not says that the effect the lack of protien returns to the owner of the clone.

however the activities in the brain does. so the brains should age. old brain with young body. don't matter how young the body is the brain dies the body dies too.

[B0ukun]

LOL. liloyeng.......... wow. Funny thing is that your fucking doing what you told me not to do.

Anyway, as I can see you want me to bash you with insults but for once I'm not going to do to you. As I saw you play fag tag with Boukon and talking about me. I came to the conclusion, that your one of my fans.

I know your on my dick and you want my autograph, but don't reply to my posts unless I give your ass permission.

Ichee...You must scratch alot. I hear they got creams for that.

Until you graduate from your mom jokes, large amounts of curse words and gay references UR not in my league. Take a bath, stop sitting on hard objects for fun and profit and keep my name out your mouth.

[liloyeng]

LOL. liloyeng.......... wow. Funny thing is that your fucking doing what you told me not to do.

Anyway, as I can see you want me to bash you with insults but for once I'm not going to do to you. As I saw you play fag tag with Boukon and talking about me. I came to the conclusion, that your one of my fans.

I know your on my dick and you want my autograph, but don't reply to my posts unless I give your ass permission.

Ichee...You must scratch alot. I hear they got creams for that.

by the way he talks i think it's a iche way in his a.. hehehehe
anyways boukun i dont think he has any friends. hehehe

anyways ichee are your feelings hurt, ohhhhhhh poor ichee


wait is for fun or are you really mad, ichee?

if you not joking i stop.

[B0ukun]

its not good to incite people, then the situation would be blamed on you. A single retaliation to defend yourself should be enough. To me Forums have jail house rules, don't pick fights but don't let anybody push you around. Once you've defended yourself leave it alone.

Now, how long do you think it will be until we see Naruto in Kyubi rage again? I'm actually hoping its a long ways off. In the earlier part Kyubi was like a treat, you only got it every once in a while. I don't want kyubi everyday, just every friday.

[Arty]

This is a stupid thread...

What happens when he goes 5tail mode????
He gets five tails mby?

[B0ukun]

not entirely, it would have been better named Naruto's future so his entire path of power and ability could be addressed but this works for now.

[Arty]

Naming it : How much the power of Kyubi is at 5tails would be more like a name.
Although but sure..i hate the Kyubi scenes.. everytime naruto gets a chance to showoff he blows it with Orange bubbles and mjeow mjeow screaming.

[narutofanone]

Yeah. The Kyuubi chakra should have a more defined shape.

[HarlemDuelists]

lol he prolly grows hair all over his body.

[y.o.]

I never thought it would be that serious to reference a forum.... to jail... lol!!!

[B0ukun]

its the best way to illustrate how to conduct yourself and not get banned. Or shall I say get put in solitary.

[liloyeng]

whos going to jail? lol
i think evrybody has rules(personal rules, jail house rules) that are unique to themselves.
example:
naruto and sasuke
naruto past experiences has made set goals and rules to follow. one of them is protecting his friends. when gaara try to kill sakura is was willingly to kill gaara saving sakura.
sasuke also has personal rules. his ultamite rule is to kill his brother and if anybodies stands in his way he'll kill them.

i guess we have rules too. on millions of things. from how someone should speak to us to how we should speak to someone. from what love is and what hate is. and so forth.

when naruto turns into 5 tail i dont think he will have any rules or kyuubi's rules will take over.

[narutofanone]

This thread is going off track. Let's stick to the matter at hand.

[Ichee]

Ichee...You must scratch alot. I hear they got creams for that.

Until you graduate from your mom jokes, large amounts of curse words and gay references UR not in my league. Take a bath, stop sitting on hard objects for fun and profit and keep my name out your mouth.

Boukon, why do you try so hard to come up with these weak ass insults. I heard better lines and insults from Spongebob squarepants, I'm being dead serious. Its no need to point out that Im not in your "league". As everyone should be able to tell I don't like taking penis shots in the ass. Lol, thats why your dad rapes you in your poop shooter so your mom can creme herself by watching you sick bastards have a gayasm. You fucking faget, and you know how I know your gay. Its because your Liloyeng sugar daddy and hes your little bitch, I see once you came at me with that weak ass comment, your bitch got enough heart to say something, not knowing hes going to flamed as well.Also the keep my name out your mouth part, seems to be a imitation of what I said, I know you wanna be as good as me at this but try to be yourself. Matter fact, being yourself sucks ass so just end your life. You piece of shit.

You Failed.

Liloyeng, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Your Boukon's bitch.

Nuff said.

You failed Also.

Also if this is prison, just know I'm the big black guy that owns both of you. NO Homo

[KageNaruto]

a geez, people should know better than to go at ichee cause hell never stop and always has to have the last word. its pointless flaming back at him, hell do it at you even until he gets banned. theres no point.

and actually liloyeng sides with anyone who tries to ignore how newbish he is. im myself getting tired of the guy. check out his comments in the drunk lee neji thread in the anime section. the dude is the most ignorant member ever.

ichee youre like jesus compared to him imo, he doesent curse but his 5 year old mind makes it so much worse

[liloyeng]

a geez, people should know better than to go at ichee cause hell never stop and always has to have the last word. its pointless flaming back at him, hell do it at you even until he gets banned. theres no point.

and actually liloyeng sides with anyone who tries to ignore how newbish he is. im myself getting tired of the guy. check out his comments in the drunk lee neji thread in the anime section. the dude is the most ignorant member ever.

ichee youre like jesus compared to him imo, he doesent curse but his 5 year old mind makes it so much worse

i like how you adversite me. hehehe lol

[jounin101]

Boukon, why do you try so hard to come up with these weak ass insults. I heard better lines and insults from Spongebob squarepants, I'm being dead serious. Its no need to point out that Im not in your "league". As everyone should be able to tell I don't like taking penis shots in the ass. Lol, thats why your dad rapes you in your poop shooter so your mom can creme herself by watching you sick bastards have a gayasm. You fucking faget, and you know how I know your gay. Its because your Liloyeng sugar daddy and hes your little bitch, I see once you came at me with that weak ass comment, your bitch got enough heart to say something, not knowing hes going to flamed as well.Also the keep my name out your mouth part, seems to be a imitation of what I said, I know you wanna be as good as me at this but try to be yourself. Matter fact, being yourself sucks ass so just end your life. You piece of shit.

You Failed.

Liloyeng, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Your Boukon's bitch.

Nuff said.

You failed Also.

Also if this is prison, just know I'm the big black guy that owns both of you. NO Homo

LMAO @ the spongebob part...
seriously, boukon is aight in most of his posts, unlike his Mr. Smithers liloyeng.
why do most of his posts say "heehee" and other shit, that really is just homo of him. he has 200+ posts, and 3/4 is hot garbage. (hold on, i dont think he took algebra yet, he sounds like a 10 yr old or something.) thats 150+ "shit posts" liloyeng, get a fucking life or read the fucking manga right. fanboys are seriously gay for loving an 2D character.
edit: he has like 300 posts and 3/4 of them are shit posts, thats 225+ shit posts preteen.

[Kratos]

I agree with everything KN just said. And I think at least half of liloyeng's posts are spam.

On Topic: I think Naruto would end up in the hospital if he went 5TK.

[liloyeng]

Boukon, why do you try so hard to come up with these weak ass insults. I heard better lines and insults from Spongebob squarepants, I'm being dead serious. Its no need to point out that Im not in your "league". As everyone should be able to tell I don't like taking penis shots in the ass. Lol, thats why your dad rapes you in your poop shooter so your mom can creme herself by watching you sick bastards have a gayasm. You fucking faget, and you know how I know your gay. Its because your Liloyeng sugar daddy and hes your little bitch, I see once you came at me with that weak ass comment, your bitch got enough heart to say something, not knowing hes going to flamed as well.Also the keep my name out your mouth part, seems to be a imitation of what I said, I know you wanna be as good as me at this but try to be yourself. Matter fact, being yourself sucks ass so just end your life. You piece of shit.

You Failed.

Liloyeng, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Your Boukon's bitch.

Nuff said.

You failed Also.

Also if this is prison, just know I'm the big black guy that owns both of you. NO Homo

ok your getting reported. go on and post another one of these it;s too late.

[jounin101]

ok your getting reported. go on and post another one of these it;s too late.

bitch move liloyeng, bitch move. (boondocks are funny)

on topic, i think naruto would lose more control to kyuubi, like in 4TK mode. in the first tailed modes, naruto lost alittle control at a time, and 3tk was like 50/50 between naruto and kyuubi.
edit: and ichee has been doing this for over a year now, u think he'll get suspended now? doubtful.

[mandelak]

LOL, anyways i think now maybe he could take it abit but not for long i mean after he trained with the kage bunshins. maybe not sure since he should be abit stronger

[KageNaruto]

I agree with everything KN just said. And I think at least half of liloyeng's posts are spam.

On Topic: I think Naruto would end up in the hospital if he went 5TK.

he turned wose.

check out his exact words about an asuma vs oro fight:

"oro and asuma is indefinite too cause it never happen, too.(this is the turth)"

asuma vs oro and he thinks oro wouldnt win-_- ugh....

anyway this whole 5tk thread is hard to discuss, i think naruto wont power up as much as the transition from 3 to 4, but still quite a bit. i think 5 to 6 might be a big transition though

[Techno Dude]

Oh boy, this was my topic?

i enjoyed reading your posts people

[tekashika]

5tk right now for naruto is too much... it will be more likely that it will be a less powerful kyuubi fighting in his own will... in 4, naruto almost completely got lost, but i wonder if it was naruto's will/anger in fighting orochimaru... or was it just kyuubi running wild around everything...

btw... during naruto's fight with neji in the exam and vs sasuke during the Valley of the End place, naruto was able to control and use the kyuubi chakra in his own will... it will be cool if naruto can have a 4tk chakra under his control... the 3tk vs. deidara was almost cooL that he was using rasengan at the same time(that got deidara warning hidan and kakuzu about naruto)...

[N0mad]

ok, so we know that nine tails gives the chakra to naruto by his own free will, so doesnt that mean that kyubi wouldnt give naruto that much power that would kill him... however, there is another posibility, maybe kyubi wants to give naruto as much power as posible, cos that would break the seal and eventualy kill naruto, and than the real kyubi would come out... well to answer to this topic, i would say that 5th tail would have probably killed naruto, and i think short after that we would see the free kyubi roaming around and killing everyone... that is only my opinion...

[narutofanone]

I Naruto dies, Kyuubi dies. Only if a ritual to transfer the Kyuubi out of Naruto is performed is it likely that the Kyuubi would live as Naruto dies.

[Hidden Ninja]

not necessarily, because i think that if the kyuubi destroys the host then it can escape. that is why when naruto was talking with the kyuubi the last time, it was telling him to remove the seal and that he needed him. being the kyuubi, its devious so im sure if naruto removed the seal on the gate, the kyuubi would be released from the host's body.

[B0ukun]

as long as kyubi is sealed I believe he is completely tied to Naruto's fate, if the seal is broken however, Naruto could possibly die from the chakra and as we've seen, kyubi can use Naruto's body as a skeleton. That is what Yamato said about kyubi during the "Big Bang With Orochimaru Showdown (Patent pending)

[narutofanone]

I think Naruto kind of aids Kyuubi to letting it out by channeling such fierce emotions. He has experienced so much turmoil and Kyuubi is able to leak out its chakra as a result. Jiraiya said that Naruto's control of the Kyuubi chakra is based on his emotions.

[Hidden Ninja]

yes his control is based on his emotions, when naruto is pissed off and tittering on the edge of being a wild man, the kyuubi runs wild. when naruto is desperate and in need of more chakra/strength, then the kyuubi wields power willingly. that being it only last up to maybe two tails.

passed that, his only emotion is anger and that of the kyuubi's.

[liloyeng]

maybe naruto will teach kyuubi how to love so the love emotion therefore for now on beside the anger.

[animeking]

maybe naruto will teach kyuubi how to love so the love emotion therefore for now on beside the anger.

the hell o_O *thinks of Flonne from Disgaea* OMG WTF o_O thats a stupid idea o_o

[liloyeng]

naruto does have a power that makes people become his friend. kakashi and the old lady said it.

[Hidden Ninja]

you are an idiot. i really hope you get banned lilo.

even to say that is ridiculous. making the kyuubi friendly. the scariest demon in all of naruto becoming lovie....that would ruin the whole manga. please do not speak anymore.

[liloyeng]

you are an idiot. i really hope you get banned lilo.

even to say that is ridiculous. making the kyuubi friendly. the scariest demon in all of naruto becoming lovie....that would ruin the whole manga. please do not speak anymore.

ban ban ban is that all you can say, debate it insteal of crying.

naruto has made friends who are so dark(neji,sasuke, graara). he will need kyuubis help. he will need to get kyuubi to help him save sasuek.

[Hidden Ninja]

ive said ban once first off. second there is nothing to debate on idiotic statements. using the kyuubi kills naruto.

neji was not dark, just arrogant. sasuke has not been saved and is not dark nor evil. he is using evil to avenge his family...i didnt know going thru that makes you dark.

gaara was the only really dark one, but that was because of a demon. once naruto showed him friendship and the love he had for others, gaara controlled the demon inside him. the kyuubi did not make gaara a better person.

[liloyeng]

ive said ban once first off. second there is nothing to debate on idiotic statements. using the kyuubi kills naruto.

neji was not dark, just arrogant. sasuke has not been saved and is not dark nor evil. he is using evil to avenge his family...i didnt know going thru that makes you dark.

gaara was the only really dark one, but that was because of a demon. once naruto showed him friendship and the love he had for others, gaara controlled the demon inside him. the kyuubi did not make gaara a better person.

the story line is set up to have naruto have the kyuubi powers. he will one day learn the powers with out being hurt from it.

kyuubi is starting to respect and back him up. kyuubi has comment on him as brave to blackmail him, told sasuke to back off from killing him. kyuubi has also stated he must work with naruto or he'll die too. respect build friendship.

[KageNaruto]

the story line is set up to have naruto have the kyuubi powers. he will one day learn the powers with out being hurt from it.

kyuubi is starting to respect and back him up. kyuubi has comment on him as brave to blackmail him, told sasuke to back off from killing him. kyuubi has also stated he must work with naruto or he'll die too. respect build friendship.

if its set up for him to use it then why the hell is he currently trying his hardest not to?

[liloyeng]

you need to think about it al little more. he does not want to use it to hurt others but he will need it so saves others. so he will/needs to find a way to use it with control. everybody know this. are you trying to seem dumb.

[N0mad]

oh yea... that i can imagine... nice little foxy runing around, and liking people of konoha out of love, and naruto taking him for a walk with a leash... nice pet...

[Ichee]

Anyway as I said this thread is too damn specific. A thread needs to be created that includes 5 tails in a broader scope and generalization

[aldaron]

Um, the nicest way to construct an objective criticism of the idea that the Kyuubi might turn good due to Naruto's influence is...o boy, this is a tough one...

How about, though Naruto's influence on HUMANS, Sasuke and Gaara predominantly, is evident, even to point where a single battle can turn an entire life's pain into hope (Gaara), I doubt his influence could even attempt to sway a legendary creature such as the Kyuubi, simply because the Kyuubi is significantly older, and significantly more powerful. You can't assume that, from the perspective of the Kyuubi, an ant such as Naruto has any influence. Kyuubi is merely sealed due to a special trick developed by humans, he is obviously, in terms of age and power at least, on a completely different level of comprehension and analysis. What Naruto may see or feel won't even constitute to a blip on the Kyuubi's radar.

All the Kyuubi has to worry about is Naruto remaining alive.

Besides, in terms of the legend of the 9-tails beast, it's known that this thing is savage, cruel, and cause of earthquakes and tsunamis and the like. I don't think a petty village has any valid importance to him whatsoever.



Ok, now in terms of the topic itself, assuming that the pattern of the progression remains constant from 1-2-3-4 to finally 5TK, Naruto would most likely die. He suffers immense internal and external damage simply because of the detrimental effects of the Kyuubi chakra; there is no way he would be able to withstand that same destructive chakra, just on an extraordinarily higher and more concentrated level.

5TK transformation = death for our beloved man character.

[B0ukun]

And No, Kyubi will not turn good or say naruto I love you. Will Kyubi gain a respect for naruto eventually, possibly. That depends on if Naruto can get the job done under his own strenght.

Love no, respect I'll give him that.

[narutofanone]

Kyuubi is not gonna express love for Naruto. If anything, Kyuubi hates Naruto because it is trapped in him.

[B0ukun]

Kyuubi is not gonna express love for Naruto. If anything, Kyuubi hates Naruto because it is trapped in him.


Kyubi hates naruto because he's weak, and he's trapped inside. Kyubi never says anything about his condition to Naruto, only that he's weak. If Naruto can prove to be strong as the fourth, kyubi will probably STFU. Thats seems to be his main gripe.

[narutofanone]

Yuo forget that Kyuubi complains about being trapped when Naruto first goes to visit it.

[regina777]

Aldaron- Boukun- Ichee-and everyone else involved-- No more direct flaming/insults/etc. And/or helping of it to get worse. And the spam- sheesh!!!


Now i have to come back and edit your posts. Be ready for unfortunate consequences if anymore trickles in here again.

[aldaron]

Now, as for the 5TK Naruto, I am curious to see, if Naruto could actually survive the detrimental effects of the transformation, what jutsu he would display. And if it is just another blast of chakra, I want to see how massive THIS one would be...

[AK47]

i'm thinking the 5TK would have little effect from it's predecessor, only making just another step to its truest transformation. like from 1 to 3 tails. However of course, more potent than the last.
I guess we won't be seeing it for a while though which is kind of a disappointment.

[Techno Dude]

Think he'll die?

[Kazashi The Dragon]

..............
oh yea naruto going 5 tail i think he would start to look more like the kyuubi but slow down in movement s cause of the massive amount of chakra(sp??) goin threw his body

[B0ukun]

Possible, but then again we've seen that at each stage his speed and strength have increased. He should be even faster, and remember Naruto is the dormant one at this point and kyubi is doing the fighting. Also since its four legged his weight would be more evenly distributed so he could run rather quickly.

[Kazashi The Dragon]

true i was thinking about what yamato said about how naruto was able to move with all that chakra moving threw him and with 5tk i would be even more chakra thats my only reasoning behind the slower movement but hey i could be totaly off to :P

[Ichee]

Possible, but then again we've seen that at each stage his speed and strength have increased. He should be even faster, and remember Naruto is the dormant one at this point and kyubi is doing the fighting. Also since its four legged his weight would be more evenly distributed so he could run rather quickly.

I don't think its Naruto or Kyubbi actually fighting. I think it's Kyubbi's violent instinct fighting. Kyubbi would have been alot smarter if he was fighting.

[B0ukun]

I guess, maybe it was raw killing instinct.

[Kazashi The Dragon]

maybe naruto's anger too he is pretty pissed at oro enough to rip him apart in a brutal and primal way mix the with the kyuubi's animal instincs and violent nature you got a fairly mindless fighting machine

[B0ukun]

thats a good answer, I take that for 300 bob.

[Techno Dude]

maybe naruto's anger too he is pretty pissed at oro enough to rip him apart in a brutal and primal way mix the with the kyuubi's animal instincs and violent nature you got a fairly mindless fighting machine

Haha, he mite go 5tails against sasuke when they're gonna incounter each other again

[B0ukun]

Nah, he won't go into a kyubi state when fight Sasuke I don't think. He want's to fight him with his own strength. So thats going to be his thing for some time.

[Hidden Ninja]

why would he go five tailed if in the last encounter, naruto was telling the kyuubi he didn't want his help

[B0ukun]

Kyubi will go back to saving Naruto when he's near death but I don't expect to see anymore kyubi states for some time to come.

[tekashika]

I believe that when naruto faced sasuke onced again... he won't go Kyuubi, but i believe that Kyuubi himself will help out if naruto gets in trouble... I remember the Kyuubi himself telling sasuke that he will kill him if he tries to kill naruto or whatever does that mean...

Right now... i believe that later on, naruto will end up using 4tails chakra on his own free will just like he did with the 3tk rasengan against deidara... And as the plot goes deeper, i can see more than 5tk coming...

And for the earlier posts... they were saying that kyuubi will end up as a victim of naruto with his ever "make friends" attitude... Naruto was able to change some of those people because they lack or want something... Kyuubi doesn't need anything... he's a beast meant to be powerful and go wild... That's why he's a DEMON fox... in the end... the tailed beasts will either be history(dead) or get extracted of their power by someone... as for kyuubi i'm guessing that Akatsuki will get it from Naruto in somewhat a different way...

[aldaron]

And, as much of a shock as it may be to the forum, I have to agree with Ichee on his one point regarding the fighting instincts of the Kyuubi. I also believe that when Naruto goes into "tails" mode, he loses consciousness and Kyuubi's instincts and chakra take over, not Kyuubi himself.

I do have one question however, what are the semantics behind Naruto's utilization of Kyuubi's chakra in the Neji fight, and subsequently not being adversely affected, as opposed to Naruto going into "tails" mode in the Sasuke fight and receiving various detrimental effects?

I can't imagine the Fourth's seal would lead to Naruto being adversely affected, so is it possible that he originally meant Naruto to use the Kyuubi chakra as he did with control in the Neji fight, and when the "tails" spout it is actually just a manifestation of the Kyuubi's instinctual tendencies?

[B0ukun]

I think thats the case with the Kyubi. When he goes into Tails mode it seems partially unwanted and his mental state begins to degrade. This is probably do to the weakening of the seal. In the neji fight he molded the kyubi Chakra like he would his own. In the recent fights where he grew tails it was more like a submission to the power, not a summoning or controling.

And I disagree with you on the subject of Nature vs Nurture. There are no PHD's in my family and most posses an average intelligence some below average, none above average. I sat with a therapist for some idiot reason and they weren't able to keep up and just compliment me on how articulate and intelligent I was. This woman had a PHD.

I guess you and I are much like Naruto and Neji in that respect. Genius and Drop Out.

[narutofanone]

Naruto does seem to be losing complete control. The pure ferocity and rage that is teh Kyuubi chakra is too much for Naruto to handle. He is some predicament. He must feel bad that he has to remain self-conscious in every battle so as to not lose control.

[Hidden Ninja]

Right now... i believe that later on, naruto will end up using 4tails chakra on his own free will just like he did with the 3tk rasengan against deidara... And as the plot goes deeper, i can see more than 5tk coming...


when naruto went 3 tailed against deidara, it was not of his own will. he lost control and let his anger get a hold of him. kakashi talked to naruto and got him to calm down for a few moments, but the anger just kept on fueling naruto to let himself get possessed. it wasn't his free will.

[narutofanone]

Hoepful thinking. But if Naruto does get control of the Kyuubi, he'll feel all the pain from the transformations like the blood and skin tears caused by excessive use of tails.

[Kazashi The Dragon]

yea i would be hard to keep control with the most powerful being trying to take over lol :P but i would be cool to see naruto to get some more control over the kyuubi's chakra maybe if he can get more controle he could hold 1 tk or 2 tk maybe 3 tk longer and with no side affects maybe

[B0ukun]

I don't think there will be tails if he gets control of it. Did this, when he first got the tails it was after Sasuke pile drove him to death. Just before dying kyubi brought Naruto back and thats when the tails began to show. he didn't summon that. When he used the kyubi first during the fight there was a heigthened physical ability and a more focused attitude as if he had to keep focused to keep it in check. There is no focus when he's in a tailed state. The tails can't be good for him.

[aldaron]

Boukon I didn't say I chose nature, I just gave it a nod. Obviously one or the other isn't the answer; it is some combination. You are making me seem like some arrogant prick lol; I was just stating that having intelligence in a family normally means the kids will be too, it doesn't mean that those who do not will not. And I by no means consider myself a genius, at least yet. I believe the line for genius is 2-3 standard deviations from the average I.Q. of 100, so around 130-145+. I have never taken an official I.Q. test, so I cannot make that judgment.


However, on topic, this is an interesting point. Could Yondaime's seal meant have been created so that Naruto ACTUALLY should use the chakra, just not in the method through which he does now, which is the "tails" method. If he could control the amount like he did with Neji, and somehow restrict the chakra that hurts him, that would be interesting.

[Kazashi The Dragon]

i just had a thought what if the kyuubi chakra was too powerfull to completly seal and yondaime COULDNT seal it completly there for it leaks out and mixes with naruto's

Aldaron thats a good thought too maybe naruto could mix the natures of his chakra and the kyuubi's chakra and make a truly killer ninjutsu

[B0ukun]

Thats what the seal was supposed to do I think. Thats something else Jiraiya noted about the seal other than Orochimaru's sloppiness in trying to block it. The seal is made so that the chakra's mix. Yondaime was making a jinchuriki purposely, I'm starting to think that was his plan. Not just to lock away the kyubi but give him to the village as a weapon.

Oh and the Genius Drop out thing was a j/k.

[Kazashi The Dragon]

or maybe thats the only way to seal a bujuu or deamon is to make a jinchuriki thats a neat idea cuz every person who had a bujuu sealed in them became a jinchuriki there been no real way to completly seal a bujuu with out any ill effects to the host like what oro did to naruto it disrupted naruto's whole chakra system he could barely mold chakra

[B0ukun]

Yeah, but as we've seen with shukaku its possible to seal them in inanimate objects as it was said he was originally sealed in a pot or something I believe.

[Kazashi The Dragon]

that is true i was talkin about a living host tho but yea i could be wrong i was just think cuz we dont really know the full power of the kyuubi like we've seen the full power of the shukaku but the nine-tails is supposed to be the ultamate deamon so that my reasoning

[B0ukun]

true, that may have not been possible with him. But if he could have sealed it differently is the question. Jiraiya was seemingly quite impressed with the manner of sealing when he got a good look at it. The mixing was what impressed him. It's apparently set to allow him a different type of sync than other jinchuriki's. We saw that Gaara and Jinchuriki #2 we completely turning into thier bijuu, Naruto doesn't have to do that. He can just harness its power and maintain his own control. Gaara had to give into Shukaku and the other girl turned into her Jinchuriki as well. Naruto doesn't apparently have to do that.

[Kazashi The Dragon]

well i was thinkin that naruto could do the same if he released a 9tk yes i think he wouldnt die but definently recieve serious dmg like he would be in the hospital for a month or two but yea i think that if he where to access all nine tails he would turn into the kyuubi but at the same time he would have great risk to fully release the kyuubi

one question i cant remember if they said if the seal was weakening for sure or if they said they think the seal is weakening cuz if the latter it could just be another aspect of the seal itself

[B0ukun]

I'm not sure but it seems like a double edged sword for him. I haven't heard anything about any other character recieving damage from thier bijuu.

[narutofanone]

Yeah. The Naruto-Kyuubi relationship is very symbiotic. Thus, he gets hurt when the Kyuubi comes out with many tails.

[Kazashi The Dragon]

yeah especially with all that power goin threw you kinda like luke skywalker using the force to the max of his ability, he starts to glow and his cells get burned up from the force coursing threw him at a high intencity (mind you this makes him age faster rather than just get hurt like naruto), so naruto having the kyuubi chakra goin threw him he is slowly gettin hurt and the more he taps into the more he gets hurt but hey maybe the more he taps into the more kyuubi jutsu's he can use like the black ball

[KageNaruto]

Thats what the seal was supposed to do I think. Thats something else Jiraiya noted about the seal other than Orochimaru's sloppiness in trying to block it. The seal is made so that the chakra's mix. Yondaime was making a jinchuriki purposely, I'm starting to think that was his plan. Not just to lock away the kyubi but give him to the village as a weapon.

Oh and the Genius Drop out thing was a j/k.

einstein is a genius and dropped out of high school, lol.

[.........]

I'm not sure but it seems like a double edged sword for him. I haven't heard anything about any other character recieving damage from thier bijuu.

well gaara loses his personality right?and you can't really speak on the other jinchuurikis because we know very little about them..

[narutofanone]

Yeah. Most people get fame and recognition after they are dead. Its not directly beneficial for them but at least they will be remembered as great people who affected change and had a strong and profound impact on the history of humanity.

[narutofanone]

There's only one problem. Naruto is not assertive enough to bargain a deal with Kyuubi that gives him more control.

[darklighter]

I think as the show progresses we will see more and more tails. Maybe when Naruto finally kills Oro he would be at 5 tails, and I think he will and the Akatsuki leader will go down together in a battle where Naruto goes all 9.

[B0ukun]

Well the only thing that gives some evidence of Kyubi having at least some control is that Yamato's thoughts were that Naruto becomes little more than a skeleton for the chakra. Which to me says that Naruto has little to no control and is being used a vehicle of movement for Kyubi. Though we can see Kyubi is more intelligent than that.

[KageNaruto]

Well the only thing that gives some evidence of Kyubi having at least some control is that Yamato's thoughts were that Naruto becomes little more than a skeleton for the chakra. Which to me says that Naruto has little to no control and is being used a vehicle of movement for Kyubi. Though we can see Kyubi is more intelligent than that.

if naruto had no control im pretty sure hed slash THROUGH sakura and continue his assult on her rather than trying to stand at the same place

i think he has a tiny grasp of control

[narutofanone]

The Kyuubi comes out of Naruto when he channels strong emotions or is under great stress. If he were to try to calm down and let go of his fury, then the Kyuubi chakra would reced maybe.

[N0mad]

hmm, i still think that naruto will lose kyubi somehow, but will survive, and he will have his own increadible chakra... and if 4tk was ripping off his skin, what will 5tk do? i dont think i wanna see that...

[aldaron]

And N0mad, exactly, 4TK ripped off his skin. 5TK? I shudder to imagine the external and internal damage that would result.

[narutofanone]

You would probably see blood and skin burn off of Naruto every second. Eww. Really nasty and hazardous to one's health even with regenerative abilities.

[regina777]

i have spent over 20 minutes reading posts, deleting over 40 of them, editing others because of flames, insults, etc

know this-- when people who are too lenient get mad- at times it can be really ugly.

All those involved-- for the second time- please cool it :cool:

[narutofanone]

Hai. Your wish is our command. Seriously.

[delphi999]

maybe naruto will teach kyuubi how to love so the love emotion therefore for now on beside the anger.

Funny, I have this weird premonition that somewhere, sometime, before Naruto is cancelled many years from now, there will be at least one scene where the Kyuubi is freed from Naruto, and upon release protects him and says 'this boy is precious to me.'

[narutofanone]

That would be a miracle if it happened. I can't see the Kyuubi as being gentle.

[KazED]

I think the story is leading to a direction where naruto will lose the kyuubi:

1) yamato says that naruto is strong enough on his own without the kyuubi's help/chakra
2) Naruto has been training with yamato with his kyuubi being supressed which would have naruto realize he can get so much stronger without kyuubi's help
3) Sasuke easily dispatched of the kyuubi, which would tell naruto that if he wants to beat sasuke, he has to do it without kyuubi's help.

[narutofanone]

Losing the Kyuubi is harder than it sounds.

[chi_dori]

Losing the Kyuubi is harder than it sounds.

well its said losing the bijuu wud kill the container instantly..i doubt there wud be another chiyo to save narutos ass..if naruto goes 5tk it will be fatal for him..at least he wud take a weeks time to recover imo...and talkin about taming the demon..i really doubt that kyuubi is gonna listen to naruto preachin..even sasuke didnt, why wud a demon care about his jail?? but it seems if naruto s killed it will kill the demon with him too...so indeed the kyuubi s gonna erupt sooner or later if naruto is in grave danger..

[Collateral]

that the kyubii dies if naruto dies tells us also that he will break out completly one day or at least try it with all force cause the way it looks the kyubii is nearly immortel i mean (damn i dont know the words to say it right) he will not die of old age any time soon so he has too before naruto became to old and could die

[chi_dori]

that the kyubii dies if naruto dies tells us also that he will break out completly one day or at least try it with all force cause the way it looks the kyubii is nearly immortel i mean (damn i dont know the words to say it right) he will not die of old age any time soon so he has too before naruto became to old and could die

well i remember kyuubi sayin something like that naruto s blackmailing or summin..and he cud be killed if naruto dies...why wud kyuubi warn sasuke not to kill naruto?? either kyuubi s gonna escape or it wants to frighten sasuke off..

and the thing about 5tk naruto is it will be highly difficult to suppress him at that state...even for yamato imo..was difficult to stop him when he was goin 4tk

[B0ukun]

I think kyubi warning sasuke had nothing to do with Kyubi's death but maybe a lack of power to stop something else, or the release of Kyubi himself, though if it was the release of kyubi through Naruto's death he probably would have told him to kill Naruto. Something is afoot.

[jounin101]

i think that link in your sig has something to do with it BOukun...

mentioning uchiha madara, calling the uchiha bloodline cursed, then telling sasuke he'll regret killing naruto, it definitely has something to do with the Tengu Theory IMO. killing naruto would 99% give sasuke the mangekyou ITACHI wants him to have for some odd reason its all related, even to kakuzu mentioning 1st being killed by an uchiha(or was that a rumor on narutochaos) is starting to bring the tengu theory into the mix.
i expect to hear more about it the closer we get to kyuubi's attachment to the uchihas.

[Hidden Ninja]

whoa, kakuzu never mentioned anything about the first being killed by an uchiha. i doubt if that was the case that konoha would let the uchiha clan be their police force.

[B0ukun]

well that actual incident was a rumor. However the tengu theory suggests that Shodai was defeated by Uchiha Madaara during the forming of the village. And one incident does not condem a village.

I mean really, if you brother killed a cop, should you be kicked out of the city?

[Hidden Ninja]

no but what about if he killed the president and founder of a country. i think that the family would pretty much be on bad terms.

[Collateral]

i really dont understand why so many people reley so much on the tengu theory what i remember there was like no naruto at all in this theory and this manga is called Naruto so how can you think this theory is right?

[jounin101]

in my last post i put (or was that a theory on narutochaos) cause sooo many people put it in the 338 discussion, i really didnt know. but thanx for clearing that up.

i think the tengu theory is gonna be used by kishi to some extent because aside from naruto, the uchihas are the most important people in the storyline IMO. naruto fits into the theory because he is the supposed 3rd mangekyou user's best friend, and he is the jinchuuriki of the kyuubi, who happened to help madara during those times according to the theory.

[Profanation]

as you can clearly see the whole manga is not all about Naruto, hes not even in some of the parts, its true he's the main character, but the universe does not revolve around one person...

turely intelligent people are very flexible in their way of thought, you should never accept one thing as forever fact, you should always explore the possibilities... kishi knows this and so he tried to make a "world" each character should be extremely developed in their own way, not one single person should be more important than the other, this shows how people grow by their influences, if you look carefully you'll see that Naruto is more real than fantasy...

This is directed at above post talking about why everyone beleives in the tengu theory...

last note, the reason why people beleive in it is because it's shown up and so far is proven fact...

[narutofanone]

Its hard to solidify the importance of all the characters.

[tekashika]

i really dont understand why so many people reley so much on the tengu theory what i remember there was like no naruto at all in this theory and this manga is called Naruto so how can you think this theory is right?

was there any naruto in kakashi gaiden? sasuke's past?

[Collateral]

was there any naruto in kakashi gaiden? sasuke's past?

first i just asked i dont want to start a battle about the theory so dont ask this kind of question where you self know the answer just to provoke me or something like that.
i just thing this theory is a little to much about a charakter who was shown for 1 chapter in the last 90
i am sure there will be a storyline about mangeyko sharingan cause otherwise it wouldnt make much sense to show us so much about this its just that sometimes it sounds like this theory is a fact people use this thoery wich is made up by hints and than use the "made up" parts as hints for other theorys it goes a little far away from the real story sometimes

[tekashika]

oh... ok... well... if you read the post above... he should be right... if you think about it... there are loads of parts of the story that doesn't involve naruto... people believes it too much because of loads of supporting evidences as well... so good job for that tengu theory... but one thing... kishi can recycle about some basic facts... remember... samehada should have been one of the tailed beasts... but was put to good use in the hands of kisame... so don't be surprised if the past of uchiha will be a little altered, but somehow put the theory in a flow with the story... kishi can even... (heck, it's his show)... name the uchiha blood Britney Spears or something...

[narutofanone]

I think Kishi would have more sense in naming. Anyway, Naruto making something of himself. How can people not take notice?

[Ichee]

Regina...lol edit everything.

Anyway, this thread died once I left huh.

[narutofanone]

Oh stop already. These discussion are flowing and dynamic. They may go off course but they eventually get back on track.

[10sarg]

nothin just more power.

Kyuubi cant take control of naruto without killing him and as soon as naruto is dead so is kyuubi.

so it'll be more power, more pain for naruto but not death.

[N0mad]

nothin just more power.

Kyuubi cant take control of naruto without killing him and as soon as naruto is dead so is kyuubi.

so it'll be more power, more pain for naruto but not death.

Now, it would probably kill him, so there wont be 5tk until naruto is stronger...

[10sarg]

hmmm not sure, with the new style of training he does he probably has gained the extra strength to go 5tk

[narutofanone]

The training increases his chakra. It doesn't increase his body's resistance to the effects of the 5TK. His skin and blood will still be burning off rapidly and being healed. Maybe the effect would lessen because of his chakra keeping the Kyuubi's at bay.

[10sarg]

hmmm can you not say though that chakra is basically life force or somet similar? as that old bint brought back gaara from death with chakra - so in essence the more a naruto has and increases his chakra amount and control he could very well engage more the the kyuubi's tales.

[narutofanone]

The jutsu brought Gaara back. Not just chakra.

[N0mad]

that jutsu wasnt just transfering chakra, it transfered her life force to Gaara...

[10sarg]

so whaty did she transfer naruto's life force as well? no she asked for his chakra!

[B0ukun]

all jutsu require some chakra but she did give Gaara her life force. She didn't have the amount of chakra required to complete the jutsu.

[Hidden Ninja]

what makes me wonder about that is if naruto performed it, just go with it in saying he could, that if he would or wouldn't die considering he could regenerate himself as he is healing. i am sure it would sorten his life if he did survive but i mean, because of his healing powers, i wonder if he would survive.

[N0mad]

so whaty did she transfer naruto's life force as well? no she asked for his chakra!

i said she didnt transfer JUST chakra... she needed chakra to transfer life force, so she used chakra of naruto cos she didnt have enough, she didnt transfer narutos life force, just his chakra... is this understandable enough?

[narutofanone]

The life force came from Chiyo. The chakra came from Naruto.

[AkatsukiDeidara]

For the 5tk Naruto? what would happen...... He would go crazy,run like crazy, injure sakura more =D

[Hyuuga11]

i think there is a 5 tails

[minimal]

i remember before the time skip that naruto's body was too small of a container for the power of the nine tails, and thusly he couldn't utilize its power properly.

Now after the time skip we've seen naruto manage 4tk. My thoughts would then go to the physical growth of naruto matters in his utilization of the nine tails, maybe not just his size but amount of chakra/stamina he has. As he grows he can use more of the nine tails.

The other concept show was the seal is breaking over time. That could be another factor being the more of the nine tails that can escape determines the tailed naruto state. Also the nine tails does not want naruto to die, being that it has control over how much chakra gets out, i am sure he would never put naruto into a tailed state that would kill him instantly.

All in all i think a 5tk naruto is more than a possibility and could be part of a dramatic upcoming battle, That would make for quite a showing.

[darthpsykoz]

I agree,
also once naruto becomes stronger (maybe he laready is strong enough) , he'll be able to control the 4tk state, and then after being provoked even more he may goto 5tk