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koji_alpha
06-15-2004, 08:33 PM
Does anyone think that since the cursed seal is almost in full gear up til now (219 with that freaky eye) and every time Sasuke's sharingan evolves a step in the middle of battle (Haku, Oro) this battle with Naruto will possibly go to full sharingan for at least one eye? It seems like a possibility to me. Any thoughts out there?

huyem
06-15-2004, 08:35 PM
Does anyone think that since the cursed seal is almost in full gear up til now (219 with that freaky eye) and every time Sasuke's sharingan evolves a step in the middle of battle (Haku, Oro) this battle with Naruto will possibly go to full sharingan for at least one eye? It seems like a possibility to me. Any thoughts out there?

I dont think Sasuke's weird eye was the Sharingan. It is most likely a demon's eye that the Curse Seal lvl. 2 makes like the other sound ninjas that went Curse Seal lvl. 2. Freaky! :shock:

koji_alpha
06-15-2004, 08:41 PM
Well either way its going to be pretty bad for Naruto in the coming chapter...

huyem
06-15-2004, 08:46 PM
Well either way its going to be pretty bad for Naruto in the coming chapter...

Yeah, but I think they are evenly matched. I mean look at the others, all of the Genins defeated all the Sound Ninjas with the Curse Seal lvl. 2 with the exception of getting help for the last three. (Well they almost defeated the Sound Ninjas without the help of the Sand Shinobis and I think Neji and Choji died. However, I underestimated the Gennins.) It wasn't that bad and the battles didn't drag that long as I thought. :)

Kyuubi's Chakra and influence > Curse Seal lvl. 2
Sharingan > Kage Bunshin no Jutsu
Sasuke's taijutsu and speed > Naruto's
Rasengan (Shadow clones may help speed up Rasengan) > Chidori (it seems to take more time for Chidori to be fully charged)
Naruto's stamina > Sasuke's stamina
Gamma Bunta (Summoning no Jutsu) > Sasuke's demon form

It looks like Naruto has a slightly better chance of defeating Sasuke because he is also doing it for Sakura-chan. Sasuke is too blind right now, just like Gaara before, so he might loose since the creator is trying to spread the theme of "power coming from the will of love." Yeah, Naruto might get beaten up pretty bad in the first few parts of the battle, but I highly doubt that Sasuke is going to win. :wink:

koji_alpha
06-15-2004, 09:01 PM
i suppose...

Naruto has the advantage in a lot of areas but im not really sure how this fight will (or should) end. Look at the possibilities:

Naruto wins: Sasuke faints, naruto brings him home and sasuke either
1. relizes he needs to get stronger the good way or
2. Just isolates himself from everyone in his bitterness

Sasuke wins: Well we...minus a character from the good side and have one more bad guy that is left undealt with *cough*itachi*cough*

but i really think sasuke will have his butt handed to him and at least brought home. Im not sure if he should be now that hes so messed up...

64HandsOfHakke
06-15-2004, 09:11 PM
Like I said. Its going to be up to sasuke how this fight ends. He's gotta realize he can't underestimate naruto and just take him out before the fight even gets going.

If Sasuke decides to underestimate naruto and toy with him for awhile, he will end up on the losing end. if he lets naruto use all of his normal chakra up and call forth kyuubi power, then sasuke will be scheduling a flight south of the equator in a hopes of finding his missing teeth. His only chance to beat naruto..is to just plain beat the crud out of him before he even gets close to using all of his chakra. if he doesn't do that, he might aswell get don king on the phone to arrange the rematch.

Naruto is not as weak as people make him out to be. And this could very well prove he isnt. He beat gaara..which is something sasuke couldn't do. and sasuke has been in the hospital for the past few arcs(the trip to see tsunade) so he hasn't had much time to get training in. Naruto on the other hand has been training hard to master a new move..and he went toe to toe with kabuto for a few rounds. Thats rigorous training.

This is going to be the fight to watch later on in the series. Seeing as it will get interupted here..later on though..naruto vs. Sasuke will be the fight to watch.

koji_alpha
06-15-2004, 09:18 PM
hmm...i wonder if it will come down to rasengan vs chidori for REAL this time...that would be good to see

except remember that naruto used up quite a bit of both his and kyuubi's chakra when he started off Kimimaru. Hes not 100% here...

*little penant*Go Naruto!

huyem
06-15-2004, 10:09 PM
Like I said. Its going to be up to sasuke how this fight ends. He's gotta realize he can't underestimate naruto and just take him out before the fight even gets going.

If Sasuke decides to underestimate naruto and toy with him for awhile, he will end up on the losing end. if he lets naruto use all of his normal chakra up and call forth kyuubi power, then sasuke will be scheduling a flight south of the equator in a hopes of finding his missing teeth. His only chance to beat naruto..is to just plain beat the crud out of him before he even gets close to using all of his chakra. if he doesn't do that, he might aswell get don king on the phone to arrange the rematch.

Naruto is not as weak as people make him out to be. And this could very well prove he isnt. He beat gaara..which is something sasuke couldn't do. and sasuke has been in the hospital for the past few arcs(the trip to see tsunade) so he hasn't had much time to get training in. Naruto on the other hand has been training hard to master a new move..and he went toe to toe with kabuto for a few rounds. Thats rigorous training.

This is going to be the fight to watch later on in the series. Seeing as it will get interupted here..later on though..naruto vs. Sasuke will be the fight to watch.

Well in the situation with Gaara, Sasuke didn't have his Curse Seal lvl 2 and he wasn't as crazy back then. Curse Seal lvl 2 improves Sasuke's power 10 fold or more because it is as the same power as the Gaia's Seal on Kimimaro which is the most powerful Curse Seal. :shock:

Anbu Dr J
06-16-2004, 12:53 AM
well sasuke is gonna lose no matter what...Kyuubi can kick curse seal lvl 2 all over the place

Holyeternalx
06-16-2004, 05:21 AM
i dont think sasukes sharingan will evolve any while in his curse seal form, didnt kakashi say if he gave into it he wouldnt advance anymore? i may be wrong here.

64HandsOfHakke
06-16-2004, 02:49 PM
Kakshi meant physically/mentally. It'd be like this. The more you work at something to get better, the more strenght and skill you acquire in that area. Lets say I lift heavy things all day. If I lift heavy things all day I will get stronger from lifting the heavy things, plus I will devise new techniques and ways of lifting the heavy things to make it easier for me to do so. However, say theres a magic pill I can take that gives me super strength to lift these things. If I take the pill, I will get all the strenght I did by working hard. However, since I have all the strenght, I don't need to devise new ways to lift the objects..since I can do it without using help or making it easier.

So basically, if you train to get stronger, you pick up alot more than just strength. You learn new skills and things like that. If you were to rely on the pill(or seal in this case) you'd get the strenght, but wouldn't go through the learning process needed to acquire new veiws and outlooks on how to use your power.

huyem
06-16-2004, 04:29 PM
Kakshi meant physically/mentally. It'd be like this. The more you work at something to get better, the more strenght and skill you acquire in that area. Lets say I lift heavy things all day. If I lift heavy things all day I will get stronger from lifting the heavy things, plus I will devise new techniques and ways of lifting the heavy things to make it easier for me to do so. However, say theres a magic pill I can take that gives me super strength to lift these things. If I take the pill, I will get all the strenght I did by working hard. However, since I have all the strenght, I don't need to devise new ways to lift the objects..since I can do it without using help or making it easier.

So basically, if you train to get stronger, you pick up alot more than just strength. You learn new skills and things like that. If you were to rely on the pill(or seal in this case) you'd get the strenght, but wouldn't go through the learning process needed to acquire new veiws and outlooks on how to use your power.

Basically what Hakke is saying is that if you are dependent on something, you can't gain experience and grow. If I put it into a simile, it's like taking drugs (steroids), if you don't keep on taking it, you will lose the ability to be muscular and all that crap. :?

iamsolid
06-17-2004, 08:44 PM
i dont think sasukes sharingan will evolve any while in his curse seal form, didnt kakashi say if he gave into it he wouldnt advance anymore? i may be wrong here.
No,you're definatley right,Kakashi did say that.

The Fifth
06-18-2004, 12:20 AM
Yeah, but that's only if he lets it spread all over his body, if that happens then he loses all free will (soul) and that's why he will stop growing if I remember correctly. But then again Sauske doesn't give a shit about that, or anything else for that matter, he just wants to kill his brother...then let Orochimaru have his body *shrug* too bad the one goal he has is next to impossible to achive lol

gaara_sandman
05-26-2006, 04:49 PM
I think Naruto would still crush sasuke.Basicly because remeber theair fight.Naruto 1 tail was even with sasuke cs2.So if naruto can go 3 tails[and higher]And sasuke can only go cs2 sasuke will get massacred.And he hasn't trained his sharingan right because he left so he waould get slaughtered

y.o.
05-27-2006, 11:57 PM
Well either way its going to be pretty bad for Naruto in the coming chapter...

Yeah, but I think they are evenly matched. I mean look at the others, all of the Genins defeated all the Sound Ninjas with the Curse Seal lvl. 2 with the exception of getting help for the last three. (Well they almost defeated the Sound Ninjas without the help of the Sand Shinobis and I think Neji and Choji died. However, I underestimated the Gennins.) It wasn't that bad and the battles didn't drag that long as I thought. :)

Kyuubi's Chakra and influence > Curse Seal lvl. 2
Sharingan > Kage Bunshin no Jutsu
Sasuke's taijutsu and speed > Naruto's
Rasengan (Shadow clones may help speed up Rasengan) > Chidori (it seems to take more time for Chidori to be fully charged)
Naruto's stamina > Sasuke's stamina
Gamma Bunta (Summoning no Jutsu) > Sasuke's demon form

It looks like Naruto has a slightly better chance of defeating Sasuke because he is also doing it for Sakura-chan. Sasuke is too blind right now, just like Gaara before, so he might loose since the creator is trying to spread the theme of "power coming from the will of love." Yeah, Naruto might get beaten up pretty bad in the first few parts of the battle, but I highly doubt that Sasuke is going to win. :wink:


You're saying that as if we're talking about a 100% naruto in actuallity its more like 50% at best and 100% its not even in tha slightest, this wont be a good fight cause naruto's body has been through so much lately!