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regina777
11-16-2006, 09:28 PM
Well, for those who are still painfully bearing Naruto's fillers the raw is out. Of course that includes me.
http://www.tokyotosho.com/details.php?id=43700

by the way, it is Chinese subbed and in real media format

i am just hoping to see at least one good one like those in Bleach before this suicide mission of fillers ends.

Nick
11-16-2006, 09:30 PM
I think you meant 210

Edit: Oh geez, now I have to edit.

Uh, yeah, cant wait to see it!

Hiyo
11-17-2006, 02:15 AM
subs are out although it says they'be been out for 16 hours. So I dunno if DB tracker is busted or if this is a troll :P

http://yhbt.mine.nu/t/n210.torrent

ill assume the tracker just goofed

steve
11-17-2006, 07:56 AM
man that was a piece of shit

PROS:
- I really liked the artwork in regards to the trees and surroundings. Looked pretty kickass.
- fair amount of action, I guess
- main bad guy has cool style

Cons:
- TROUBLED KIDS WANT TO FIGHT LEE AND SAKURA! What crazy past do they have?!
- surprise! the bad guy isnt that bad! He saves day!
- Rattlesnake? Naruto freezes in terror. Fought single-tail demon and won, fearless... but cant respond to a snake, at least in time to MOVE.
- DOuble rasengan's! Thats like, double chocolate! And it wasnt even a question, he didnt even TRY to get creative, it was just, My turn! rasengan! -- Uh oh! Rasengan!. Super work guys, now I hate rasengan.
- Naruto has met 2/3 of the badguys. Its not looking promising for Lee and Sakura to get a real fight outof this one.(clearly they dont fight these kids)
- did those kids throw swords at them?
- Final, most important: HE KILLED MY PARENTS AND MY BROTHER! NOW I NEED REVENGE!, naruto: "I RELATE TO YOU! MY BEST FRIEND NEEDS REVENGE BUT I NEED TO SAVE HIM!"
emotions rumble! we find out that gantetsu what actually SAVING the child, and the child still lives! What horrors! What could this be?
PLOTTWIST EVERYWHERE!
- extra bonus con: TAJUU KAGE BUNSHIN! really means, kage bunshin. Tajuu, didnt that mean like, hundreds of them? Everywhere? A big deal? NO ANIME WRITERS, you cannot have him say that technique just to make it sound more serious. If you arent going to cover the screen with bunshins, dont say TAJUU. Simple? Ok.

The good thing is that these new bad guys have interesting techniques, this is good.
Thats it though. All. I mean, remember when he fought gaara and he was like riding his clones and using them to throw himself around places and to trick out gaara? Remember how kickass that was? Why not do that every now and then, the potentials for some dude who can make thousands of copies of himself in terms of combos from that point are endless. The things you can do! BUT whatever.

Hopefully naruto tries to rasengan them again next episode, that was super swell. I mean, doesnt HE get bored of using the same technique over and over? He can summon a frog!
Its like theyve started trying again... but are simply to make an interesting storyline. The themes and techniques and characters that made Naruto(the series) so appealing in the first place have all been overused, cheapened and misrepresented. I dont care about naruto relating to people with troubled pasts anymore. Its stupid, its bullshit. Why is it that everywhere he goes he has to change someones future? Why is it that every future he changes is that of someone around his age who was misunderstood/parents died/usual bullshit...
They couldve at least gotten creative here... fuck.


I know this is a really negative post and that shit, but lets get real... this is bullshit. No problem with filler, huge problem with SUB PAR filler. Especially when it goes on for over 500 days. Thats right, its been about a year and a half now. FUCK this, Im done with Naruto till we're back on track.

The good thing is that these new bad guys have interesting techniques, this is good.
Thats it though. All. Hopefully naruto tries to rasengan them again next episode, that was super swell. I mean, doesnt HE get bored of using the same technique over and over? He can summon a frog!

Kholdstare
11-17-2006, 09:51 AM
I feel with you man, the super a-class jutsu Rasengan that only a few other could perform has been reduced to jutsu that is performed so easy like a Henge no Jutsu.
Now Steve wouldn't it make our day, if the next ep would just be filled with flashbacks and that at one moment, Gagentsu or someone else says that they have a monster inside of them, and that narruto goes and relates himself with them, eventually fighting them and then winning. And ofcourse becoming good friends forever, eventhough we will never see them ever again.

Now what would be more of an interesting plot twist is that in the upcoming eps, he would change in Super Kyuubi level 2 or SKB2, and ripps those enemies into little shreds, now that would be swell and unexpected.

desertllama
11-17-2006, 12:28 PM
but it wont happen, as u said, next ep will be full of flashbacks, naruto wil relate to every 1, have a lil gay orgy (sakura is outside). then have a hard fight against the main bad guy, say il never give up, kage bunshin nu jutsu
rasengan

friends4ever <3
but that will be in the next 4 eps, not the next 1 alone

regina777
11-17-2006, 01:06 PM
man that was a piece of shit

PROS:
- I really liked the artwork in regards to the trees and surroundings. Looked pretty kickass.
- fair amount of action, I guess
- main bad guy has cool style

Cons:
- TROUBLED KIDS WANT TO FIGHT LEE AND SAKURA! What crazy past do they have?!
- surprise! the bad guy isnt that bad! He saves day!
- Rattlesnake? Naruto freezes in terror. Fought single-tail demon and won, fearless... but cant respond to a snake, at least in time to MOVE.
- DOuble rasengan's! Thats like, double chocolate! And it wasnt even a question, he didnt even TRY to get creative, it was just, My turn! rasengan! -- Uh oh! Rasengan!. Super work guys, now I hate rasengan.
- Naruto has met 2/3 of the badguys. Its not looking promising for Lee and Sakura to get a real fight outof this one.(clearly they dont fight these kids)
- did those kids throw swords at them?
- Final, most important: HE KILLED MY PARENTS AND MY BROTHER! NOW I NEED REVENGE!, naruto: "I RELATE TO YOU! MY BEST FRIEND NEEDS REVENGE BUT I NEED TO SAVE HIM!"
emotions rumble! we find out that gantetsu what actually SAVING the child, and the child still lives! What horrors! What could this be?
PLOTTWIST EVERYWHERE!
- extra bonus con: TAJUU KAGE BUNSHIN! really means, kage bunshin. Tajuu, didnt that mean like, hundreds of them? Everywhere? A big deal? NO ANIME WRITERS, you cannot have him say that technique just to make it sound more serious. If you arent going to cover the screen with bunshins, dont say TAJUU. Simple? Ok.

The good thing is that these new bad guys have interesting techniques, this is good.
Thats it though. All. I mean, remember when he fought gaara and he was like riding his clones and using them to throw himself around places and to trick out gaara? Remember how kickass that was? Why not do that every now and then, the potentials for some dude who can make thousands of copies of himself in terms of combos from that point are endless. The things you can do! BUT whatever.

Hopefully naruto tries to rasengan them again next episode, that was super swell. I mean, doesnt HE get bored of using the same technique over and over? He can summon a frog!
Its like theyve started trying again... but are simply to make an interesting storyline. The themes and techniques and characters that made Naruto(the series) so appealing in the first place have all been overused, cheapened and misrepresented. I dont care about naruto relating to people with troubled pasts anymore. Its stupid, its bullshit. Why is it that everywhere he goes he has to change someones future? Why is it that every future he changes is that of someone around his age who was misunderstood/parents died/usual bullshit...
They couldve at least gotten creative here... fuck.


I know this is a really negative post and that shit, but lets get real... this is bullshit. No problem with filler, huge problem with SUB PAR filler. Especially when it goes on for over 500 days. Thats right, its been about a year and a half now. FUCK this, Im done with Naruto till we're back on track.

The good thing is that these new bad guys have interesting techniques, this is good.
Thats it though. All. Hopefully naruto tries to rasengan them again next episode, that was super swell. I mean, doesnt HE get bored of using the same technique over and over? He can summon a frog!

Quoted for truth and Sincerity.

I myself who have been defending the need for fillers am getting extremely disinterested and disillusioned with the series. Why they havent spent time on other characters and always naruto is beyond me. No wonder the storylines and techniques are more than completely overused.


tch!!!!!!

Hiyo
11-17-2006, 07:22 PM
Typical naruto filler :P Although they seem to be making Naruto even more dumb then he used to be. Like the snake scene.. and the scene after gantetsu "saved" naruto and naruto rasengan'd the guy in the whole. any other time naruto wouldn't like like "ohh i win1 lol!!!@#"

ps: one piece fillers ending last week for anyone that watches. time to see luffy & co start kickin some ass :D and bleach fillers look like they are going to end within the next month woo

high6
11-18-2006, 02:05 AM
man that was a piece of shit

PROS:
- I really liked the artwork in regards to the trees and surroundings. Looked pretty kickass.
- fair amount of action, I guess
- main bad guy has cool style

Cons:
- TROUBLED KIDS WANT TO FIGHT LEE AND SAKURA! What crazy past do they have?!
- surprise! the bad guy isnt that bad! He saves day!
- Rattlesnake? Naruto freezes in terror. Fought single-tail demon and won, fearless... but cant respond to a snake, at least in time to MOVE.
- DOuble rasengan's! Thats like, double chocolate! And it wasnt even a question, he didnt even TRY to get creative, it was just, My turn! rasengan! -- Uh oh! Rasengan!. Super work guys, now I hate rasengan.
- Naruto has met 2/3 of the badguys. Its not looking promising for Lee and Sakura to get a real fight outof this one.(clearly they dont fight these kids)
- did those kids throw swords at them?
- Final, most important: HE KILLED MY PARENTS AND MY BROTHER! NOW I NEED REVENGE!, naruto: "I RELATE TO YOU! MY BEST FRIEND NEEDS REVENGE BUT I NEED TO SAVE HIM!"
emotions rumble! we find out that gantetsu what actually SAVING the child, and the child still lives! What horrors! What could this be?
PLOTTWIST EVERYWHERE!
- extra bonus con: TAJUU KAGE BUNSHIN! really means, kage bunshin. Tajuu, didnt that mean like, hundreds of them? Everywhere? A big deal? NO ANIME WRITERS, you cannot have him say that technique just to make it sound more serious. If you arent going to cover the screen with bunshins, dont say TAJUU. Simple? Ok.

The good thing is that these new bad guys have interesting techniques, this is good.
Thats it though. All. I mean, remember when he fought gaara and he was like riding his clones and using them to throw himself around places and to trick out gaara? Remember how kickass that was? Why not do that every now and then, the potentials for some dude who can make thousands of copies of himself in terms of combos from that point are endless. The things you can do! BUT whatever.

Hopefully naruto tries to rasengan them again next episode, that was super swell. I mean, doesnt HE get bored of using the same technique over and over? He can summon a frog!
Its like theyve started trying again... but are simply to make an interesting storyline. The themes and techniques and characters that made Naruto(the series) so appealing in the first place have all been overused, cheapened and misrepresented. I dont care about naruto relating to people with troubled pasts anymore. Its stupid, its bullshit. Why is it that everywhere he goes he has to change someones future? Why is it that every future he changes is that of someone around his age who was misunderstood/parents died/usual bullshit...
They couldve at least gotten creative here... fuck.


I know this is a really negative post and that shit, but lets get real... this is bullshit. No problem with filler, huge problem with SUB PAR filler. Especially when it goes on for over 500 days. Thats right, its been about a year and a half now. FUCK this, Im done with Naruto till we're back on track.

The good thing is that these new bad guys have interesting techniques, this is good.
Thats it though. All. Hopefully naruto tries to rasengan them again next episode, that was super swell. I mean, doesnt HE get bored of using the same technique over and over? He can summon a frog!

what do you mean new techniques for the bad guys? i remember everything they are using from before.

anyways remember that naruto cant summon frogs well.

but ya i agree that this episode was a let down majorly.

2 things i hated(more but meh u basicly covered them)

•Naruto you idiot dont tell the enemy what you did(when first encounter claw guy)!

•again naruto the main focus. lee and sakura get screwed over again.

"- did those kids throw swords at them?", when u pointed that out i lmao.

CupofDice
11-18-2006, 04:01 PM
Yeah, the episode sucked. I have not the slightest idea how the anime writers think they can just distort his personality like that? I mean he pretty much trusted a guy who he should have known was a murderer (of course he didn't actually kill the kid because that will leave out the future cry fest). Wasn't he really pissed at these guys a few episodes ago. Ready to go out there and kick their *****. Now without even speaking a word to the guy, "lead the way, our lives are in your hands".:confused:

Flyin
11-20-2006, 01:10 AM
Woah, I found the most out of character flaw in the series was in here. Naruto, using LOGIC pointed out the use of following the gigantic guy. He went though everything logically, and used some brainpower. He was smart, in a way that seems like more of Sakura style. Stupid writers, they should really be getting diehards to critique episodes before they finalize the screenwork. So many convienent plot twists....horrible.

skuzzel
11-20-2006, 06:47 PM
That if they go to 271 without going back to the manga I will give up on naruto forever. Why 271? cuz then their would be 136 many fillers sence the first T-T *tears* which would be more then the 135 episodes of the normal Manga storyline...

RDB
11-20-2006, 07:33 PM
It seems that ending the fillers will pretty much end the series as well. They've been milking it for this long simply because it's popular and there's still money to be made off the show. Let's say Kakashi Gaiden airs this week. Sure, we'll be happy...but wouldn't that mean that there's now a fixed number of episodes remaining? Bearing that in mind, the show has lived waaaaaaay past its life expectancy. Now that there are over 200 episodes, I'd say it may be time to finally start the countdown to its end.

steve
11-20-2006, 07:37 PM
I doubt thatll happen, shows like one piece are nearing 300 eps and still going VERY strong.

Naruto will do the time skip and the rest of the manga plot.... but they mightof lost too many viewers to make anyone care.

Uchiha Adrian
11-20-2006, 08:31 PM
naruto wont die until atleast 400 cos i think they just gona filler it up ;p

ImThunder
11-21-2006, 12:10 AM
argg.....Naruto anime filler!!!..its always bad...i always hate to watch Naruto fight( in action)..too much talking than action..and always show the same technique...n showing no IQ at all...if we look other genin fighting, they always interesting..less talk but more action...

I am Naruto fan but...i am sorry to say i don't like the way Naruto fight...he seems like fool ninja...keep talking n do the same technique...unlike Sasuke, Neiji, Lee, Sakura and others, when fight they use their technique at its best n also they using their IQ when fighting...

Naruto...-the worst fighting ever....

ImThunder
11-21-2006, 12:13 AM
I doubt thatll happen, shows like one piece are nearing 300 eps and still going VERY strong.

Naruto will do the time skip and the rest of the manga plot.... but they mightof lost too many viewers to make anyone care.

Yeah...Bleach is more interesting now...i can see it..thats bad for Naruto Anime....

Hiyo
11-21-2006, 01:29 AM
Naruto is in a completely different time slot than Bleach. It doesn't really matter how good Bleach does. All that matters is what other shows are on in that timeslot. People will still watch Naruto. Once the fillers are over i bet the majority of people will realize the shows back on track and start watching regardless of what they say now.

RandomGuy
11-21-2006, 03:47 AM
Im jus waiting for those guys who wholeheartedly defend fillers till death to come into this thread and try to argue. Theyre always like, "OMG shut up about bashing fillers!!!111! Its SOOO OLD!!!! GO POST THOSE IN THE OTHER FILLER BASHING THREADS!!" Hey, guess what? Fillers are fucking old too! Know what else? This is the anime thread, and whats the anime showing right now?? Thats right, fillers. If filler bashing is remotely related to the thread, then you dont have a right to order people to stop bashing fillers because it fits under the Anime Forum category. Fillers suck balls. They sucked balls from the beginning and are setting new ball sucking records even today.

These new developments of fillers sucking more balls than ever before deserve our posts about them. Please, let us vent our anger about the postponement of the real Naruto and the introduction of new definitions of the phrase "complete and utter shit" in peace. That means, dont come in here acting all high and mighty saying, "If you dont like them, no ones forcing you to watch them!!" and other stupid comments, because not watching fillers DOES NOT MAKE THEM GO AWAY! DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT? Thank you.

/rant

Rafale
11-21-2006, 06:24 AM
Man! True that filler episode sucked big time. But its fine... I mean lol its fine since i got so pissed and annoyed waiting that i downloaded all the manga episodes and spent the last days reading them. F***ing Awesome. Just be a bit patient to see the stuff that follows. And I know youll all love it.
Rafale

skuzzel
11-21-2006, 02:08 PM
argg.....Naruto anime filler!!!..its always bad...i always hate to watch Naruto fight( in action)..too much talking than action..and always show the same technique...n showing no IQ at all...if we look other genin fighting, they always interesting..less talk but more action...

I am Naruto fan but...i am sorry to say i don't like the way Naruto fight...he seems like fool ninja...keep talking n do the same technique...unlike Sasuke, Neiji, Lee, Sakura and others, when fight they use their technique at its best n also they using their IQ when fighting...

Naruto...-the worst fighting ever....


okay point but badly made, grammar makes the world go round sonny.

Im jus waiting for those guys who wholeheartedly defend fillers till death to come into this thread and try to argue. Theyre always like, "OMG shut up about bashing fillers!!!111! Its SOOO OLD!!!! GO POST THOSE IN THE OTHER FILLER BASHING THREADS!!" Hey, guess what? Fillers are fucking old too! Know what else? This is the anime thread, and whats the anime showing right now?? Thats right, fillers. If filler bashing is remotely related to the thread, then you dont have a right to order people to stop bashing fillers because it fits under the Anime Forum category. Fillers suck balls. They sucked balls from the beginning and are setting new ball sucking records even today.

These new developments of fillers sucking more balls than ever before deserve our posts about them. Please, let us vent our anger about the postponement of the real Naruto and the introduction of new definitions of the phrase "complete and utter shit" in peace. That means, dont come in here acting all high and mighty saying, "If you dont like them, no ones forcing you to watch them!!" and other stupid comments, because not watching fillers DOES NOT MAKE THEM GO AWAY! DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT? Thank you.

/rant

*looks around*
I don't see any of them around, perhaps you should stop wasting my time reading that load of text and BS logic, that the person who was intended to read never came around to see. And don't tell me "if you don't like it, no ones forcing you to read it" and other stupid comments, because not reading that tripe DOES NOT MAKE IT GO AWAY! DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT? Thank you.

oh the rampant Irony.

/angerness taken out of random people.

RandomGuy
11-21-2006, 06:21 PM
*looks around*
I don't see any of them around, perhaps you should stop wasting my time reading that load of text and BS logic, that the person who was intended to read never came around to see. And don't tell me "if you don't like it, no ones forcing you to read it" and other stupid comments, because not reading that tripe DOES NOT MAKE IT GO AWAY! DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT? Thank you.

oh the rampant Irony.

/angerness taken out of random people.
Sup bro, I dont even know you and you want to start shit with me, youre real cool!

If you dont like it, no ones forcing you to read it. There I said it, and I can say that because me posting here isnt stopping you from reading the rest of the thread. Fillers are stopping the progression of the real Naruto...hows my post stopping you from reading the rest of the thread? BS Logic? Uhh...wait...no its not....youre just too fucking retarded to understand. You can turn any post you want around back at its poster, but it doesnt make you clever (just like Im doing right now...wow im clever!....no). The only "rampant Irony" is the fact that youre trying to be smart by starting shit with me for no reason, but all you do is prove yourself to be a complete dipshit. If you arent one of those people who defend fillers, then just dont respond to it because (2nd time in case you didnt understand earlier) ME POSTING HERE DOESNT STOP THE THREAD FROM PROGRESSING. DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT? Either shut the fuck up or stop posting random flames because youre just gonna piss people off for no reason. Peace

Omaki_Roku
11-21-2006, 06:43 PM
I dont usually do this but,

Random Guy and Naruto Nine tails are some of the greatest posters ,

ImThunder
11-21-2006, 10:59 PM
haha...i think thats enough for u Skuzzel!!...i think we're are here to give our opinion or predict( naruto anime or manga) not like whats u up to..anyway...

Gotcha!! Gamakichi...be open minded..

skuzzel
11-23-2006, 01:56 AM
Sup bro, I dont even know you and you want to start shit with me, youre real cool!

If you dont like it, no ones forcing you to read it. There I said it, and I can say that because me posting here isnt stopping you from reading the rest of the thread. Fillers are stopping the progression of the real Naruto...hows my post stopping you from reading the rest of the thread? BS Logic? Uhh...wait...no its not....youre just too fucking retarded to understand. You can turn any post you want around back at its poster, but it doesnt make you clever (just like Im doing right now...wow im clever!....no). The only "rampant Irony" is the fact that youre trying to be smart by starting shit with me for no reason, but all you do is prove yourself to be a complete dipshit. If you arent one of those people who defend fillers, then just dont respond to it because (2nd time in case you didnt understand earlier) ME POSTING HERE DOESNT STOP THE THREAD FROM PROGRESSING. DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT? Either shut the fuck up or stop posting random flames because youre just gonna piss people off for no reason. Peace

*smirks*
your sad, you start crap with a huge group of people, then someone says something in response and you act like I called your mother a cheap whore. Take the chipp off your shoulder and feed some of the starving children with it. I mean honestly, the only thing I even said that was an insult was calling your logic BS, god that surely entitles you to call me names and curse me out. Notice the stick up your ass, others can.

I'll level with you, I was lieing, I am a filler defended, and I was offended by your first post, so please dont say I started anything with you, you started something with a "group" of people I belong to.


Oh and unless the show is canceled BECAUSE of the fillers, how are the fillers STOPING Naruto from being made? Naruto main story is not being made because the people with the money have chosen to take a break from the Manga. You might try and say that is because of the fillers, but your wrong, the fillers are the reaction not the effect. The reason why we still have fillers is because they happen to be making money, (the reason why 90% of things happen in this world), because people watch them. Your blaming the fillers crappiness for the wait on Naruto's main story, when in reality its because people pay to watch crap, if they were losing money then they would go to the main story, therefore the filler is the reaction and not the cuase and is not keeping the regular story from going on. Personally, I'm happy they are making a cheap buck off the whole deal, helps , makes some of the money back that you and I stole from them, dont you think?

The reason why I ranted on you is because you came out gunz blazing on die hard filler lovers, who are a non existant group you made up and happen to be labeling anyone who use real world logic to explain the reasons for fillers and the reason you cant get any real naruto.

You want naruto, stop bitching, make money and tell the makers of naruto you will give them the money to take stop making fillers. Until you do something to allievate the problem or at least contribute to the show I will not respect your bitching.

Im so tired of hearing the rantings and raving of people who STEAL naruto and do nothing to contribute to the naruto creators, and then after that have the balls to tell them how to run their show.

Please reframe from useless name calling, its annoying.

haha...i think thats enough for u Skuzzel!!...i think we're are here to give our opinion or predict( naruto anime or manga) not like whats u up to..anyway...

Gotcha!! Gamakichi...be open minded..

(quoting is enough)

RandomGuy
11-23-2006, 04:51 AM
*smirks*
your sad, you start crap with a huge group of people, then someone says something in response and you act like I called your mother a cheap whore. Take the chipp off your shoulder and feed some of the starving children with it. I mean honestly, the only thing I even said that was an insult was calling your logic BS, god that surely entitles you to call me names and curse me out. Notice the stick up your ass, others can.

I'll level with you, I was lieing, I am a filler defended, and I was offended by your first post, so please dont say I started anything with you, you started something with a "group" of people I belong to.


Oh and unless the show is canceled BECAUSE of the fillers, how are the fillers STOPING Naruto from being made? Naruto main story is not being made because the people with the money have chosen to take a break from the Manga. You might try and say that is because of the fillers, but your wrong, the fillers are the reaction not the effect. The reason why we still have fillers is because they happen to be making money, (the reason why 90% of things happen in this world), because people watch them. Your blaming the fillers crappiness for the wait on Naruto's main story, when in reality its because people pay to watch crap, if they were losing money then they would go to the main story, therefore the filler is the reaction and not the cuase and is not keeping the regular story from going on. Personally, I'm happy they are making a cheap buck off the whole deal, helps , makes some of the money back that you and I stole from them, dont you think?

The reason why I ranted on you is because you came out gunz blazing on die hard filler lovers, who are a non existant group you made up and happen to be labeling anyone who use real world logic to explain the reasons for fillers and the reason you cant get any real naruto.

You want naruto, stop bitching, make money and tell the makers of naruto you will give them the money to take stop making fillers. Until you do something to allievate the problem or at least contribute to the show I will not respect your bitching.

Im so tired of hearing the rantings and raving of people who STEAL naruto and do nothing to contribute to the naruto creators, and then after that have the balls to tell them how to run their show.

Please reframe from useless name calling, its annoying.



(quoting is enough)

So, you actually took offense to my first post eh. Hahaha, well it all makes sense now, it makes me feel better knowing that. You know, we could have avoided all of this if you didnt decide to hide and just straight up told me who you were and how you felt about my post. Unlike some people here, I dont like to flame people for no reason, so getting a flame for no apparent reason annoys me in turn. Meh I didnt think i did any useless name calling. Ichee does that, not me.

Trust me, telling me I started this whole deal is like bringing up the whole "chicken and egg" paradox. Did complaints of fillers start the argument or did people complaining about complaints of fillers really get it started? Dont try to come up with an answer, there is none. I wasnt attacking an unknown group of people because theyre known and they do love to act like the mature ones by attempting to stop people from voicing their opinions. Im not attacking people who like fillers, I think you misunderstand me there. Im attacking people who feel a need to justify themselves by attacking people who say they hate fillers. Why cant they just be satisfied with the fact that many people dislike that this filler season has gone on for more than a year and is actually beginning to reach the length of the original naruto plot (for the anime)? People are different, if they dont like fillers, theres no need for them to try to censor out other opinions just because theyre different.

FYI, the Manga is still continuing and is comfortably far ahead of the Anime at this point. Far enough ahead to begin the next portion of the real story in any case. In addition to this, I dont believe were really stealing stuff. Do we pay the producers of "24" every time we watch one of their episodes on TV? Sure we own the episodes on our computers now, but thats the same as recording it from the TV.

In any case, thats besides the point. Whether or not Im stealing from the producers and reasons why we have fillers in the first place doesnt change the fact that the recent fillers are garbage (imho) and that its about time we move on to the actual story. Just because they make it for us doesnt mean we have to like it. I would honestly stop watching if I didnt know that Naruto's real story is totally kickass. These fillers are just delaying mine, and everyone else's, enjoyment when they see what Naruto is up to after 3 years of training. Trust me, once the fillers stop and the stories that actually have suspense and lasting changes on the characters, youll see why many of the people bitching about fillers are bitching, simply put.

In the end, I wasnt telling producers of Naruto what to do, Im not attacking people who enjoy watching fillers, none of that. Im saying that at this point, when the manga is already a year and a half ahead of the anime, continuing fillers seems to have little point, especially when their quality is indescribably worse than the real story (imho). In addition to this, I want to be able to say this without people trying to just flat out stop me from doing so merely because they dont agree with/like what i say.

BaLRoG
11-23-2006, 11:17 AM
well as fun as watching 2 retards bitch at each other is...

ok, its not... you both look like **** heads.

anywho... I have stopped watching the anime till they cut all this bs filler. and i have hated rasengan (which was cool at first) for so long now... mostly since that postal ninja episode where he uses it as like a propeller for a boat.

manga all the way... no useless filler... and way ahead =P

skuzzel
11-23-2006, 04:22 PM
Randomguy - that post was great, not kidding. I also believe the fillers are crappy, but I defend the makers simply from an economic standpoint, I think they have the right to do what makes money over what people may want them to do. Its just a conjecture.

Please dont get the wrong idea, Im not trying to censor you, talk all you want, its a free country, I think your opinion is probably just as right as mine (opinion's having a hard time being wrong and all).

I do wish that naruto would go to the kickass main story, but I also hope that the creators can make some money where they can, and if that means I have to wait longer, Im cool with that. Its an opinion, you may be so tired of waiting you cant stand it, I understand that, I moved on to other anime so I dont really care.

lastly - keep talking, its what forums are for, to talk, aruguing is a form of talking, I dont want to censor, I do respect your disapointment in the choices the makers have gone with.

FYI - I know about the manga and how long the fillers have been running, I stopped watching them, and stopped coming to this board about 20 eps in.

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well as fun as watching 2 retards bitch at each other is...

ok, its not... you both look like **** heads.

anywho... I have stopped watching the anime till they cut all this bs filler. and i have hated rasengan (which was cool at first) for so long now... mostly since that postal ninja episode where he uses it as like a propeller for a boat.

manga all the way... no useless filler... and way ahead =P

what a useless comment, do you troll boards around the net echoing that inutile garbadge?

Omaki_Roku
11-24-2006, 12:03 AM
Skuzzel and random guy dont mind ol balrog up there, hes just mad cause everyday he wakes up he has the face the fact that his ugly ass looks like a geico caveman.


http://awfulcommercials.com/stills/geico01.jpg

"ILL HAVE THE ROASTED DUCK WITH MANGO SALSA"


hahhahahhahahha

ImThunder
11-24-2006, 12:58 AM
well as fun as watching 2 retards bitch at each other is...

ok, its not... you both look like **** heads.

anywho... I have stopped watching the anime till they cut all this bs filler. and i have hated rasengan (which was cool at first) for so long now... mostly since that postal ninja episode where he uses it as like a propeller for a boat.

manga all the way... no useless filler... and way ahead =P
yeah!!.. i agree,the Rasengan looks like just a normal technique now...unlike Chidori which is rarely used, much more interesting than Rasengan..and to watch Naruto in action( its quite bored,you know)..it seems like, he only knows two things which always repeated when he fight, Kagebunshin & Rasengan...

RandomGuy
11-24-2006, 05:30 AM
Skuzzel: Heheh it was just a misunderstanding so im glad nothing bad came out of it. I was kinda half joking when i made the first post and the last thing i wanna do is actually offend someone when its uncalled for. Im happy that you showed that there are still intelligent people on this board :P

Oh and I was gonna say something else, but I couldnt put it better than Omaki so ida just looked like a biter. Props to u too :)

Happy Thanksgiving all

skuzzel
11-24-2006, 03:59 PM
Im happy that you showed that there are still intelligent people on this board :P

Oh and I was gonna say something else, but I couldnt put it better than Omaki so ida just looked like a biter. Props to u too :)

Happy Thanksgiving all

I dont know about that, Im not exactly intelligent, just perhaps wordy, big paragraphs create the misconeption that im intelligent and not just an asshole who likes to argue FAR too much.

Happy delayed thanksgiving to all you americans (we are still the only ones who celebrate it right?)

ryaneck
11-25-2006, 12:48 AM
Okay.. not to be a jerk, Skuzzel, (seriously) but that comment you made to Balrog looks very, very funny next to the comment(s) you made to ImThunder, especially when one considers that your grammar is damn near as bad as his. That bit about arguing that you mentioned about yourself seems accurate. I actually appreciate that, though. There is no point being diplomatic to everyone, afterall... that'd be lame.

I don't think anybody else celebrates Thanksgiving.. Hell, half of America doesn't celebrate it anymore. Turkey tastes like crap anyway.

Filler stink. Communism sucks. Free markets are great. Regardless, all that about defending fillers from an 'economic standpoint' doesn't really fly with me since the supposed reason for the fillers is to simply give the manga time to get ahead, not to line the pockets of the producers. In any case, they could make just as much (more?) money off of non-filler episodes. Still, I *am* glad that they did one giant chunk of fillers before the timeskip, rather than any of the other options available to them. They could have put the show on hiatus (which would cause the show to run the risk of being canceled). They also could be shoving fillers that have nothing to do with *anything* at random points (as opposed to fillers that ((sorta-kinda)) fit into the storyline.) They could have even continued on and left the manga behind, going with a completely different story.




Plusss, unless I'm mistaken, the most recent manga chapeter said that the fillers will end in... the early spring of 2007, right? So no worries!

BBRS
11-25-2006, 02:19 AM
I have a question/hypothesis, that is a bit related to this episode. When the fire broke out in that guard cheif guys house, and other fires, why doesn't the "firebrigade" use the Fūka Hōin (Fire sealing method that Jiraya used to seal Itachis black Sun god fire) to just put out the flames?! ^^

skuzzel
11-25-2006, 03:31 AM
Okay.. not to be a jerk, Skuzzel, (seriously) but that comment you made to Balrog looks very, very funny next to the comment(s) you made to ImThunder, especially when one considers that your grammar is damn near as bad as his
Why exactly did you point out the post about Balrog? Because I put a D in garbage? I'll give you a cookie, my posts are sloppy, but that’s mostly because I top down process things a lot. Though, in reality, I do know a lot about grammar, and what I mean to say can be found in what I post, unlike with ImThunder Posts. I would also like to add that your post, though having good grammar, is rather hard to follow, I found myself many times asking what you were talking about, you might want to work on that.

That bit about arguing that you mentioned about yourself seems accurate. I actually appreciate that, though
You appreciate what? That I like to argue, or that I mentioned something about myself that was true? Logic would denote that you meant the former, but even that does not make much sense, why do you appreciate the fact that I like to argue? And for that matter how does one appreciate the fact that someone likes to do something.

There is no point being diplomatic to everyone, after all... that'd be lame.
Gross misuse of the word diplomatic, it gives the connotation that diplomats do not argue, and if you believe that your an idiot.

I don't think anybody else celebrates Thanksgiving.. Hell, half of America doesn't celebrate it anymore. Turkey tastes like crap anyway. Really? Half of America doesn't celebrate T-day? That's sad. I know just about everyone I know celebrates it. I think though the reason it has fallen out of favor is that people like you think it's about the turkey.....

Filler stink. Communism sucks. Free markets are great. Regardless, all that about defending fillers from an 'economic standpoint' doesn't really fly with me since the supposed reason for the fillers is to simply give the manga time to get ahead, not to line the pockets of the producers.

I do not ever remember the producers of naruto making that statement, and in any case your wrong, the point of the manga, the anime, and the fillers is to line the pockets of the producers. Your misconception is a common one for those in our generation. You might want to look up the concept of entitlement. Also, as you’re a total leech who doesn't support naruto in any way, I (and the makers of naruto) don't give a shit what flies with you.
(The above included a large assumption on my part.)

In any case, they could make just as much (more?) money off of non-filler episodes.

They can and will make more money off the non-filler episodes, what difference does that make? The fillers make money that would not be made if the fillers were not created. For instance, if the show had simply taken a break and not made the fillers, any profits that were created by the fillers would not have been made. Profit is profit, they are making a profit off the fillers, or else they would not be making them, that is the nature of the free market you seemed to have scoffed at.

Jerkishness not included I hope.

ryaneck
11-25-2006, 06:06 AM
I wasn't picking apart your grammar when I mentioned Barlog. I was referring to the fact that you flamed him for wat he wrote, calling it useless. I'd say that the flame itself was just as useless, though. On top of that, you had just taken two shots at ImThunder. I only pointed out your grammar because the shots you took at Thunder had to do with grammar, so you could argue that your comments concerning him weren't 'useless' at all. You could argue that his bad grammar was an honest issue. I was attempting to preempt that argument by pointing out that your grammar isn't much better than his, nor are your ideas any clearer.


I 'appreciate' that you aren't always diplomatic *with* your arguments. I guess that part wasn't as clear as it could be, but it also isn't important.

I know a good deal of people who don't celebrate Thanksgiving in America. You also seem to have taken those brief anti-socialist comments as sarcasm. They weren't meant to be sarcastic.

skuzzel
11-25-2006, 01:52 PM
good job replying only to the parts of my post that were defending myself and leaving out the bits about the anime.....

I could keep talking about the semantics of our first post (because apparently what you ment to say was far from what most people would take from it) but it is pointless, and I am already annoyed by your denfinition of "useless"

ryaneck
11-25-2006, 09:01 PM
I did begin to write an argument defending what I said about fillers, but I decided it was pointless to actually post because it relies too much on an assumption that the opinions of this 'pirate' fanbase match up with the opinions of a substantial number of people who actually are or actually would be Naruto consumers. Neither what I had in mind nor the obvious rebuttal could be proven, so it would be worthless to write an essay on it. Still, good job on your scathing observation..? Eugh

RandomGuy
11-25-2006, 10:22 PM
ryaneck, i have a favor to ask. Reread your posts a bit, reread skuzzels posts, think about how much skuzzels posts affect you, then think, "Did what I post really need to be said?"

If answers such as, "No, no one actually cares about what i had to say," or "No, because none of those previous posts actually had anything to do with me," or "No, nothing i said had anything to do with anything, especially bits about economy, grammar, and communism," or "No, because heated arguments in this thread already ended and there dont need to be anymore useless arguing" or "Yes, because i just want to start an argument for no reason" come up, then thats what i thought and thank you for clarifying the situation for me.

Hell, I bet any response to this post will clarify the situation for me. Thanks in advance.

vester88
11-25-2006, 10:25 PM
you guys know any fansubs that is subbing naruto?? cus dattebayo has dropped it :(

http://yhbt.mine.nu/pr/14

narutofanone
11-25-2006, 11:09 PM
Todoroki is a fool. He whines like a baby. Narut seems to show some real wisdom. However, he still has no exceptional jutsus, other than rasengan to deal with the shinobazu. The leader has the coolest way of travel but the topography guy has teh coolest weapon

spartin1127
11-25-2006, 11:37 PM
i hate fillers!

ryaneck
11-26-2006, 02:15 AM
I don't know if you meant it to be, randomguy, but that felt awfully condescending. My initial post was perfectly on-topic with just *three* simple sentences that deviated. All I was doing with those three sentences was commenting on what I had viewed as Skuzzel's needless and hypocritical rudeness towards ImThunder *and* Balrog. The other post was just a response. You're accusing me of needlessly starting arguments with posts that, apparently, have nothing to do with anything, but what you wrote applies to yourself, too, doesn't it? Did any of what I wrote affect you any more than what Skuzzel wrote affected me?


Vester, dattebayo hasn't dropped Naruto. It's a joke. If it isn't, I might eat my sock or something. In any case, I think that Narutobuzz may actually do fansubbing when the filler end in Spring...?

Flyin
11-26-2006, 02:17 AM
Good imput, nimrod. (In regards to Spartin1127)

This was a well put together episode, in comparison with some of late. Although there were a few small character flaws, and plot holes, they'll probly fill those out in the next episode. The artwork is really exceptional recently. Good job animators, for really trying on this one. Nice to have some different scenery.

skuzzel
11-26-2006, 08:18 AM
I did begin to write an argument defending what I said about fillers, but I decided it was pointless to actually post because it relies too much on an assumption that the opinions of this 'pirate' fanbase match up with the opinions of a substantial number of people who actually are or actually would be Naruto consumers. Neither what I had in mind nor the obvious rebuttal could be proven, so it would be worthless to write an essay on it. Still, good job on your scathing observation..? Eugh

scathing? question mark indeed....
But your right, the debate is almost moot because the choices are made with the japanese audience in mind, and we are not them.

All I was doing with those three sentences was commenting on what I had viewed as Skuzzel's needless and hypocritical rudeness towards ImThunder *and* Balrog

Recap - I told Imthunder that he needed to use better grammar if he wanted people to understand him. I was rude in how I said it, and I will admit that, I can be an ass sometimes, if he is upset by my posts, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend him. I flamed Balrog because he had it coming, and you know it. In his first post on this board he calls two people shit heads (not sure on the exact insult but it was something along those lines). And I was rude for flaming him back? You better drop that line of reasoning cuz it's making you look crazy.

In any case, let's just put all this behind us (the skuzzel - balrog - imthunder posts), they are not important and enough time has already been wasted on them.

RandomGuy
11-27-2006, 09:26 PM
I don't know if you meant it to be, randomguy, but that felt awfully condescending. My initial post was perfectly on-topic with just *three* simple sentences that deviated. All I was doing with those three sentences was commenting on what I had viewed as Skuzzel's needless and hypocritical rudeness towards ImThunder *and* Balrog. The other post was just a response. You're accusing me of needlessly starting arguments with posts that, apparently, have nothing to do with anything, but what you wrote applies to yourself, too, doesn't it? Did any of what I wrote affect you any more than what Skuzzel wrote affected me?


Vester, dattebayo hasn't dropped Naruto. It's a joke. If it isn't, I might eat my sock or something. In any case, I think that Narutobuzz may actually do fansubbing when the filler end in Spring...?

Haha im jus playin around bro. I know what i typed had nothing to do with anything and that i was addressing things that didnt have anything to do with me. Dont mind me. Or do, its up to you http://forum.narutochaos.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

kakashi#1fan
04-22-2007, 08:08 PM
i kind of like that episode i think

panickinu
05-04-2007, 03:08 AM
WTF is going on?? Did Itachi somehow gained some teleportation technique or what??? One scene showed both kisame and itachi sitting on a tree... Then "itahcis eyes" showed after on the cave when that other akatsuki guy said "more konoha shinobi" coming... Then suddenly itachi showed infront of naruto and the others.... Itachi has been in 3 places at the same time??? Superduper speed?

Kratos
05-04-2007, 04:09 AM
I think you posted in the wrong thread.

panickinu
05-04-2007, 01:20 PM
I think you posted in the wrong thread.

Yeah I think I read the episode # backwwards :o