What makes life worth living?

[Octo]

This isn't some philisophical debate topic. Merely state as many things you can think of that make life worth living for.

They can be as big or small as you like, you can post as many times as you want (don't edit).



1st reason: For warm socks right out of the dryer.

[Raki]

2nd reason:Food :)

[Bap]

Oh, so just stuff that we especially enjoy?

Music!

[Octo]

hugs from little people =3


edit: try to be more specific guys, I'm not asking for specific food or songs, just like "loud music!" or "warm fooood =]"

stuff like that, comprende?

[Dorphuk]

Recreational drugs

[Chidongan]

boobs that i can cup my hand around perfectly ^^

[DonEmu]

Video games u can play nonstop, for hours straight, without needing food or water but se...............

[Chidongan]

after working hard all day finally falling asleep in a cozy bed. ^^

i love that feeling.

[Anna Hatake]

ehh.....friends and well lovers

[Octo]

after working hard all day finally falling asleep in a cozy bed. ^^

i love that feeling.

oh god agreed.



Being able to talk to someone for hours on the phone without being bored =3

[Chidongan]

oh god agreed.



Being able to talk to someone for hours on the phone without being bored =3

haha yep thats fun too.


lesse, meeting someone for the first time and having a connection almost immedietly. ^^

btw octo, did you make anything with the stock i gave you? (just wonderin')

[superkhanh0]

good answer :D
i live to b myself :D and do sumthin worth being alive

[V.VELDANEN]

Knowing the fact that we will die one day.

[Octo]

petting something so soft, you're hand tingles (sometimes a kitten, sometimes a girls skin)



and no haven't done the stock yet.

[Flyin]

What makes life worth living? Hmm, I'd say the same thing that makes life in the first place, LOVE. In all it's forms.....some more than others....

[Bap]

hugs from little people =3


edit: try to be more specific guys, I'm not asking for specific food or songs, just like "loud music!" or "warm fooood =]"

stuff like that, comprende?

Well, I did mean -all- kinds of music.

[Crimson King]

WoW & music.

[NMK]

Friends and Family

And we cannot forget about MUSIC!

[Canthinkofaname]

Technology, Love (all forms, especially physically), and that feeling you get when you pet a stingray. that is just awesome how soft a stingrays skin is.

[Bap]

WoW & music.

The fact that CK has returned!

[narutoIZZAbest]

i don't care.

i don't even -want- to think abstract thoughts.

the more ignorant i force myself to be i will be happy with the present.

[JoshAries]

Mine is merely taking that next step... who knows what i'll trip over next...

[Named]

Feeling that inhilation and exhilation ^-^

[Anna Hatake]

swimming friends..ehh...the knowledge that u can do wut ever :)

[Katzyn]

Feeling the love and admiration I have for my true friends, family, and pets. And they love they return.

[Solace]

being able to do all the dangerous crap, if u get unlucky. oh well. it was worth it. or else why live at all, roflcopter..

side note: whats with all these kinds of threads all of a sudden? always thinking too much

[Poison_21]

To see what challenge i have to overcome next!

[DesecratioN]

i don't care.

i don't even -want- to think abstract thoughts.

the more ignorant i force myself to be i will be happy with the present.

SO you are saying you encase yourself in a cacoon of ignorance and are pleased?

You can keep your ignorance, I would rather live with the sorrow and agony fo hte truth.

What makes s life worth living? in truth I live to live becuase I am selfish. Simple as that.

[estranged]

what makes life worth living?.....the future of course ;)

[Named]

Yes, all life is selfish. Nothing can live without killing something else, directly or indirectly.

Vegetarians feel they have some kind of leg up on that. They're of course delusional. Killing a plant is still killing. No more or less than killing a bird, fish or human. The ability to feel pain does not give value to life. If it did, we'd have no moral objection to killing those with limited mental faculties. No, they just don't want to admit that being alive is selfish. =) It's a cute albeit nonetheless silly naivity.

[badash]

Right this is it...
1)Waking up knowing that its a new day and anything can happen
2)Chaos wars
3)My bird who rocks!!!
4)Double cheeseburgers
5)Talking with the Goddess
6)Shadows of Shinobi
7)Solace's sigs

and 8 would be bathory... yes Bathory!!!

Thats me happy for now.

[zoldic777]

Games!!!!!

[Chidongan]

finding out some girl who gave hints that she likes you is actually not attracted to you in any way and that same day your mom makes you feel like shit becuase she say's that you should have died 10 years ago. ^^

[Nick]

Being face to face with death before (by someone elses hands) can also add that motivation and will to live in your heart. You begin to appreciate life and people as individuals just a teensie bit more.

[Octo]

The word teensie

[Bartimaeus]

Kissing your girlfriend under the rain...man thats so magical!!

Shadows of Shinobi
Solace's sigs
NC
Phantasy Star Universe

Waking up knowing it's another day closer to aving the Nintendo Wii

[NarutoNineTails]

orgasm...haha

[Azure Wrath]

^^ yup, orgasms are good!
knowing that you'll see a friend, who you fell for, again soon.
holding a boob
many others too, but i'm too lazy now
having your friend tell you that you are a good friend, when you yearn for recognition from them

[006]

All of the above and of course...
Nice fluffy crispy waffles with syrup and butter!

[Bartimaeus]

aaah man...you give me the taste for it....Golden Toasts....with maple sirup!!! Mine are so delicious, people who eats the one I make always say: it's the best I've ever eaten man!

[Fool Of Doom]

not a day comes when i dont ask myself this question... then i remember the answer is.... Breaking Benjamin!!!!!!!!!!

[SRVG]

i life for the feeling

the feeling of speed wich i love.
the feeling when im dancing in the club with friends on good music

and i life for alcohol and love ofcourse. im so basic and dumb but thats my way of the ninja. :D

[-RX-]

i life for the feeling

the feeling of speed wich i love.
the feeling when im dancing in the club with friends on good music

and i life for alcohol and love ofcourse. im so basic and dumb but thats my way of the ninja. :D

Alchohol suxx,it destroies your brain sells and speeds up the production of free radicals which eventually brings u closer to death.Is it really worth it?

[Azure Wrath]

^^^ DITTO!! alcohol aint worth it! rather go have a braai (or BBG, thats what the foreigners call it) with alot of friends and jsut have a great time!!

[superkhanh0]

alcohol is good :D
just have fun dude
dont b an ass about wat people enjoy in their life

[Azure Wrath]

no, don't get me wrong, i don't have a thingagainst people who do drink, and i'm definently not being condescending, i'm just stating the personal choice that i have made. Sorry if i gave the wrong impression!! PEACE!

[-RX-]

no, don't get me wrong, i don't have a thingagainst people who do drink, and i'm definently not being condescending, i'm just stating the personal choice that i have made. Sorry if i gave the wrong impression!! PEACE!

i couldn't agree more...it's everyone's choice afterall.

[006]

I tryed drinking once, Hated it almost threw up =X
Tryed again, Liked but deicded to quit
Smoked once
Hated it never did it again
I basically live for my few friends since everything else has turned away =/

[Flyin]

Jeez, Drinking is good for you --

Beer, is liquid bread it's good for you.
A glass of wine a day improves you're blood pressure and reduces risk of cardio anomalies.

[Chidongan]

One of the things that makes life worth living to me is the lightest of touches that make your day.

Example:

Yesterday was a mediocre day all around. I woke up to another hot day, forced down another meal, went on the computer, and did absolutely nothing all day. At around 7:30 p.m. as I was contemplating whether or not I should go masturbate, my mom asked me to go water the lawn. I did. I stood outside for a good 15 minutes watering the front lawn. Although it was close to nightfall the air still had a bit of warmth left in it. As my wrist grew tired of holding that nozzle, I did something I hadn't done in long time. I set the nozzle to 'shower', and I simply pointed it into the air. As the artifical rain fell upon me, I could feel a sense of comfort. There was nothing special about this day. It was just another Monday, among the many more I had already had. Yet, I felt excessively happy. The rain washed away all the stress burrowed deep withing my muslces. I felt relaxed, completely at ease. I had no worries. Although this feeling only lasted for seconds at a time, considering I had to keep 'refilling' my supply of rain, it was still a moment in which I was lost forever.

Orgasmic.

[narutoIZZAbest]

hahah i probably don't know you that well if i'm saying this then but that was so OOC. XD

I live life for the people I care about--to become closer to them, to help them, and depends on them. And I still want to achieve my dream of becoming a manga-ka..

[Flyin]

Having somebody to hold in your arms and talk some nights, others not at all. Then fucking them.

[Bartimaeus]

flyin said it

worth living
Sex
having some soft girls in your arms
looking at beautiful girls for hours

not worth living
Dating a childish girl (seriously, my 13 yrs old sis is more mature)

[Flyin]

You've been having problems? I don't mind the immature ones, they're crazier. That belongs in a different thread.

Worth living, trying new things! (Like anal)

[KageNaruto]

Having fun, however the hell you do that is your problem to figure out.

Life without fun is like a whore without STDs

[006]

Dating a childish girl (seriously, my 13 yrs old sis is more mature)
Dude I live for that XD
Having fun, however the hell you do that is your problem to figure out.

Life without fun is like a whore without STDs

Lol XD
----
as for me I have two reasons to live.
1. God
2. My friends, before I became christain these guys pretty much kept me alive x_x

[.Sage.]

Since we will at one point die...The only thing I see fit to express now...Is interacting with other people...Whether it`s roleplaying...Or in real life...That, to me, makes like worth living...

[Flyin]

I just talked with a girl, probably the only girl I've ever had a serious relationshop with without ever having sex brought into it, on the phone.

That makes life worth living.

[Arty]

The girl next door <.<

Im gonna go all Bokura Ga Ita on you and say... : Drinking Starbucks on a cold winter day in Iceland with the gal you like.. or the boy.

[Kumo]

Whatever makes one wish to avoid death besides fear of it.

[Kristi]

The people who I love and who are important to me

[papfles]

Knowing that you are the person that can make another person feel loved, wanted.

Knowing that you are the one they turn to in a moment of despair, pain, trouble.

And knowing that you can help them through those times.

I'll die happy when people remember me for the helpful hand I have given them in life.

[spacecadet319]

knowing that without u this world would probably cease to exist?

[Arty]

Sunset at in Skrúðás.

Will post pic later.

Ive bin around , seen pictures of the so called world wonders and i tell you there is nothing that will ever compare to seeing the ocean painted red the clouds orange and watching the storm throw ice particles from the glacier 100miles away across the ocean into the air so they look like solar fires as they reflect the red sunlight. The sky is clear and the moon and stars look like a background for the northenlights dancing in the sky.

Its so unreal it makes my ignostic agnosticism into pantheism.

[Kumo]

Sunset at in Skrúðás.

Will post pic later.

Ive bin around , seen pictures of the so called world wonders and i tell you there is nothing that will ever compare to seeing the ocean painted red the clouds orange and watching the storm throw ice particles from the glacier 100miles away across the ocean into the air so they look like solar fires as they reflect the red sunlight. The sky is clear and the moon and stars look like a background for the northenlights dancing in the sky.

Its so unreal it makes my ignostic agnosticism into pantheism.Natural wonder #8 ^^

And number #9 is how humans are so intelligent, yet so f*****g retarded >.> You know what i'm talkin about?

If it's supposed to be personal, i'd have to say coca cola, vanilla ice cream, and sarcasm.

EDIT: I forgot french fries, steak and the baked potato ^^

[Arty]

i'd have to say coca cola

I second that if you add Mountain Dew.

[remzrevolution]

I second that if you add Mountain Dew.

doc peps?

to be serious, i actually agree with Pap for once.

[Nanashi777]

I'd go with sex, another day of skating, playing on a strat, some video games that haven't come out yet...and maybe waffles.

[Arty]

Knowing that you are the person that can make another person feel loved, wanted.

Knowing that you are the one they turn to in a moment of despair, pain, trouble.

And knowing that you can help them through those times.

I'll die happy when people remember me for the helpful hand I have given them in life.

All you do is give me hardships.

[i_feel_tiredsleepy]

Entertainment makes life worth living, nothing would make me more suicidal than boredom without release.

[Kumo]

.... ok, i'm going to take a stab at a generalization again...

The overall goal, for humanity itself, is to prevent change from occuring.

As for what makes life worth it... i'd have to say looking forward to something makes it all worthwhile.

[Nick]

in truth most people are not truly happy and use materials or people to fill the emptyness inside...what makes life worth living is the thought that one day some how, some where, they might actually be happy.

some people's minds are either too weak to endure or they get a raw deal of life dealt to them and they give up watching and waiting to see if it's gonna get better.

Then the few that remain freak out when something like that happens and they pretend to be all jaded like they didn't care that some poor soul somewhere gave up and ended it all...but the truth is even they are terrified inside that it could happen to them too.

[estranged]

feelings !

[Eyeshield 21]

Stuff you mean..

On topic: Life is too complex for me to figure out why its worth living.. but love is probably one of the main reasons..

[KageNaruto]

The fact that it's too much trouble to take yourself out. It's easier to flow with the current.

[i_feel_tiredsleepy]

The fact that it's too much trouble to take yourself out. It's easier to flow with the current.

Kinda similar to my point of life only being worth living while it remains entertaining :p.

[estranged]

what makes life worth living is its unpredictability

[KageNaruto]

The idea of love being the reason to live life really disgusts me for some reason.

[Eyeshield 21]

How so ?

[Nick]

How so ?

because you're dependant on the object of your love in order to make it to the next day. I think kage is into the idea of inner strength over that.. he must hate haku's nindo of living for a 'special someone'

[The Agent Y]

what makes life worth living?
knowing that there are people out there who would give there life to see that you are happy and well. basically, family and friends are the reason i think life is worth living

[Nick]

what about revenge? i think that's a substancial reason to stay alive...just long enough for me to have my revenge.

[The Agent Y]

but what do you do after your revenge?
stop living? :O

[Nick]

but what do you do after your revenge?
stop living? :O

i haven't thought that far ahead? have you asked yourself the same question about when your family and friends all die?

[Eyeshield 21]

because you're dependant on the object of your love in order to make it to the next day. I think kage is into the idea of inner strength over that.. he must hate haku's nindo of living for a 'special someone'

I can see how anyone would hate depending on someone or something for their happiness. And I hate the idea of not "depending" on someone else or going on my own (?) .. It would be perfect if it was balanced, neither too lovey-dovey or too "self-centered", but it rarely is..

[The Agent Y]

well, they will keep reproducing, my family will, so my grandkids will outlive me

i have thought of that lol

unless i am immortal or something

[Eyeshield 21]

i haven't thought that far ahead? have you asked yourself the same question about when your family and friends all die?

You can always find someone (too cruel I know)..however devastating the loss may be.. It make take 2-10 or 20 years to find someone.. but the chances of moving on are higher than you have afterr getting the revenge..

Now, if revenge isnt one-dimensional like Sasuke's is (Harry Potter for eg. :D), it will be totally different story.. me thinks

well, they will keep reproducing, my family will, so my grandkids will outlive me

i have thought of that lol

unless i am immortal or something

Still the loss is exteremly ravaging to some... I have been there

[KageNaruto]

When you complete your revenge you find something else to go after. Go destroy anything and everything that upset you. Haha.

Yeah, I hated Haku's character, but he was pretty much broken on the inside, what else could he have done?

[Eyeshield 21]

When you complete your revenge you find something else to go after. Go destroy anything and everything that upset you. Haha.

Yeah, I hated Haku's character, but he was pretty much broken on the inside, what else could he have done?

Somehow..Kill Bill comes to mind..

PS. Haku could have married Naruto or something :D

[Nick]

most of you only think revenge is a bad idea out of theory...you clearly haven't tried it.

[Kumo]

most of you only think revenge is a bad idea out of theory...you clearly haven't tried it.I have >.>

It ain't as much fun as it's cracked up to be.

EDIT: and that ain't much >.>

[Kristi]

most of you only think revenge is a bad idea out of theory...you clearly haven't tried it.Well im a chick..so ofcourse ive tried it :p

[KageNaruto]

I have >.>

It ain't as much fun as it's cracked up to be.

EDIT: and that ain't much >.>

I beg to differ. Even small acts of revenge made my day many times over.

[The Agent Y]

revenge is sweet. however, there is much more to life that revenge. however, i shall get my revenge on that dude that knocked up jessica alba! :D

she will be the hottest milf, however, i dont like the idea of her becoming well, you know what happens to girls when they have babies... :sad:

[papfles]

i dont like the idea of her becoming well, you know what happens to girls when they have babies...

They become mothers?

[Kristi]

revenge is sweet. however, there is much more to life that revenge. however, i shall get my revenge on that dude that knocked up jessica alba! :Dshe will be the hottest milf, however, i dont like the idea of her becoming well, you know what happens to girls when they have babies... :sad: She may not make any more movies for a bit but she and her baby will def be in magazines if it makes u feel better. Ontopic: i kinda think the fact that theres always room for improvement and something to strive for.

[Thistle]

most of you only think revenge is a bad idea out of theory...you clearly haven't tried it.

I have tried it and found it to be shallow. And i'm not talking about making someone slip on a banana. Any person with a reason for revenge usually has made some experiences that, in that persons opinion, justify taking revenge. I don't really regret having done what i did for revenge, but i'd rather not have made that experience and have no reason for revenge.

[Kumo]

I beg to differ. Even small acts of revenge made my day many times over.yeah, well, you're a sadist. Either that or, like thistle's pointed out, we're talking about two different kinds of revenge here.

[KageNaruto]

yeah, well, you're a sadist. Either that or, like thistle's pointed out, we're talking about two different kinds of revenge here.

Either that or I've been wondering too long about how "evil" is really just a counterpart of "boredom" and wanting to explore the boundries of your own reality and life. Like in my head I can justify cheesy evil lines by bad guys.

[Erosannin]

Midget porn FTW!!!

Okay joke aside...

My wife... OBVIOUSLY... ^___^

[Katzyn]

My pets are my life. I live only because if I died now, they wouldn't have someone to love them and care for them as I do, and I can't stand that thought.

[Karin<3]

I beg to differ. Even small acts of revenge made my day many times over.

Lol and i thought i was the only one that enjoyed getting back at someone ^^

My pets are my life. I live only because if I died now, they wouldn't have someone to love them and care for them as I do, and I can't stand that thought.

What about your friends ?

[Katzyn]

What about your friends ?

I love my friends (and family), but I don't live for them.

[Nosferatu]

Drunken pranks on drunk friends :thumb:

[Karin<3]

Wait what ?! You said your pets are your life ? I read your parents are your life which would make more sense..but woh. This is just gross beyond belief, and that you even care for pets more then you do about your family/friends is sickening and disturbing.

[Dream Catcher]

*agree with Karin (for once), but it's her choice so meh*

The people I know makes life worth living... and achieving some of my goals. Which are to travel, to own a house, etc.

[Karin<3]

You people however do realize that this thread is ment to post total bullshit anwsers and not real philosphical anwsers right xD ?

But yeah i guess it's for both.

[Katzyn]

People judge too much, whereas pets accept you and depend on you for life. If I had people who depended on me (like a sick mother, or a baby, or something), then it would be different. Though, even then, humans still judge too much.

[Karin<3]

People judge too much, whereas pets accept you and depend on you for life. If I had people who depended on me (like a sick mother, or a baby, or something), then it would be different. Though, even then, humans still judge too much.

you do realize that if you died, the cats wouldn't care jack shit and would probably shit and piss on your corpse, where as the people that are close too you would feel huge mental pain, remorse, etc etc

[blind]

People judge too much, whereas pets accept you and depend on you for life. If I had people who depended on me (like a sick mother, or a baby, or something), then it would be different. Though, even then, humans still judge too much.

That's assuming pets don't have their own thoughts. How do we know that pets don't judge us? They could be just staying by our sides because they depend us us, but not neccesary accepting us.

[Katzyn]

That's assuming pets don't have their own thoughts. How do we know that pets don't judge us? They could be just staying by our sides because they depend us us, but not neccesary accepting us.

Actually, you're right, and I shouldn't have said that, since I -know- pets, animals can think on their own. And if they can think, they can probably judge.

My kitten totally judges me when he watches me undress in the bathroom for a shower. =3

Anyway, maybe they do judge, but they don't voice their opinion. And my -pets- don't commit horrible crimes, like killing each other for no reason, or stealing money, ect. They're less hate-able than people, in my mind. (Hence why I work for the animals, not the people, being a vet tech.) Pets can't just say, one day, outta the blue in front of your friends, "you need to start working out more", like my mother can (and does), or nag at you for things you have no control over. They don't just DO things for no reason; there's always a reason why they bite, cry, eat, ect.

Maybe that's not enough of a good reason for any of you guys, but I don't really care what anyone else thinks about why I feel this way. If anyone chooses to think I'm crazy, or whatever, it's just proving my point that humans judge too much. *shrugs* (Not saying that anyone other than Karin did/does this, just saying. >:P)

[Karin<3]

Actually, you're right, and I shouldn't have said that, since I -know- pets, animals can think on their own. And if they can think, they can probably judge.

My kitten totally judges me when he watches me undress in the bathroom for a shower. =3

Anyway, maybe they do judge, but they don't voice their opinion. And my -pets- don't commit horrible crimes, like killing each other for no reason, or stealing money, ect. They're less hate-able than people, in my mind. (Hence why I work for the animals, not the people, being a vet tech.) Pets can't just say, one day, outta the blue in front of your friends, "you need to start working out more", like my mother can (and does), or nag at you for things you have no control over. They don't just DO things for no reason; there's always a reason why they bite, cry, eat, ect.

Maybe that's not enough of a good reason for any of you guys, but I don't really care what anyone else thinks about why I feel this way. If anyone chooses to think I'm crazy, or whatever, it's just proving my point that humans judge too much. *shrugs* (Not saying that anyone other than Karin did/does this, just saying. >:P)


what the f*ck, ok are you joking or something ?

[Katzyn]

what the f*ck, ok are you joking or something ?

Yeah, liek, i totallly wrote all that cuz I was jk.

-_-

[blind]

Actually, you're right, and I shouldn't have said that, since I -know- pets, animals can think on their own. And if they can think, they can probably judge.

My kitten totally judges me when he watches me undress in the bathroom for a shower. =3

Anyway, maybe they do judge, but they don't voice their opinion. And my -pets- don't commit horrible crimes, like killing each other for no reason, or stealing money, ect. They're less hate-able than people, in my mind. (Hence why I work for the animals, not the people, being a vet tech.) Pets can't just say, one day, outta the blue in front of your friends, "you need to start working out more", like my mother can (and does), or nag at you for things you have no control over. They don't just DO things for no reason; there's always a reason why they bite, cry, eat, ect.

Maybe that's not enough of a good reason for any of you guys, but I don't really care what anyone else thinks about why I feel this way. If anyone chooses to think I'm crazy, or whatever, it's just proving my point that humans judge too much. *shrugs* (Not saying that anyone other than Karin did/does this, just saying. >:P)

I'm not saying you're crazy or anything...

And just because animals don't speak in a language that we understand, it doesn't mean that they aren't saying anything about us or to us imo...maybe I'm overthinking this...

[Dream Catcher]

Listen, bottom line is that animals don't have the capability of higher learning, such as reason and logic. This means that they are run by their biological cycles, just as every other animal out there. Yes, they do feel things such as pain, happiness and maybe ever sorrow and what not, but it's all biological. They are happy because they get food, they are in pain because they got hit, they are sorrowful (overstatement?) because they got hit or yelled at or w/e.

The brain is mysterious and we don't know how it works, but at the end of the day, pets grow attached to you and depend on your for survival. You feed them, you pet them etc. But at the end of the day, they can turn on you, just like any human (according to Katzyn)

As for Katzyn... it seems like you went through some traumatic experiences that made you think this way. No way does a "normal" person think that way. You seem to have a need for dependence. I'm quite sure some events triggered this way of thinking and it's not normal in any case.

@ Blind : This sounds like a perfect case for that talk show i was talking about. Where people call in about their problems? Well it seems that this is the case here....

[Katzyn]

Im not saying this because i want to insult you or anything but, you need help.

Oops, sorry, I guess I'm on the wrong forum to have a serious discussion, and reveal who I really am and how I really feel. Right, right.

LOL, i life for anime and forums and friends who don't respect me for me and lie and make drama where drama should not exist, and family who usually thinks only about themselves, and not for my pets who are always there for me when I need comfort. Oh, and I totally live for those hawt hunky guys who are usually very shallow and don't give me much of a chance to show them what a GREAT girl I am.

There, better? =) Yay, bullshit~

And blind, don't take me so literally. =/ I think maybe you -are- thinking too far into this. Remember, as Karin said, this isn't a real discussion, it's to BS, because NC can no longer have real serious discussions about how people really feel. =P

Lol, DC. You make me laugh. A lot. XD

[Dream Catcher]

Oh, and I totally live for those hawt hunky guys who are usually very shallow and don't give me much of a chance to show them what a GREAT girl I am.

But you yourself said that you care more for animals.... how can you care for a guy and show him how great you are when you don't give him the same care and devotion??

And from what you are saying, it sounds like you need to get away from the place you're at right now, because it seems to be ridden with bad people, or people not suited for you...

[Arty]

This means that they are run by their biological cycles, just as every other animal out there. Yes, they do feel things such as pain, happiness and maybe ever sorrow and what not, but it's all biological. They are happy because they get food, they are in pain because they got hit, they are sorrowful (overstatement?) because they got hit or yelled at or w/e.


A better word would simply be Instinct? :S

[blind]

And blind, don't take me so literally. =/ I think maybe you -are- thinking too far into this. Remember, as Karin said, this isn't a real discussion, it's to BS, because NC can no longer have real serious discussions about how people really feel. =P


Well, it wouldn't hurt to try, which is what I'm doing anyways :p

I think the bottom line is that, we don't know what our pets are thinking. If we did, we might be shocked, or might be surprised, but we just don't know. That's why I'm a little skeptical as to why you think this way. (no offence)

[Arty]

Wait wait ,- I know what my dog is thinking.

All the frkn time.

[Katzyn]

But you yourself said that you care more for animals.... how can you care for a guy and show him how great you are when you don't give him the same care and devotion??

And from what you are saying, it sounds like you need to get away from the place you're at right now, because it seems to be ridden with bad people, or people not suited for you...

Did you happen to notice that that quote came from a paragraph where I was being fascetious?

I'd love to get out, but I'm in a financial and scholarly position that I cannot yet leave, or I would sacrifice everything I've worked so hard for. I'll be getting out when I can, trust me. -_-

EDIT~~Really, Arty? Wow. You really shouldn't say that, though, because Karin'll say you need even more help than -I- do. =O

[Karin<3]

Did you happen to notice that that quote came from a paragraph where I was being fascetious?

I'd love to get out, but I'm in a financial and scholarly position that I cannot yet leave, or I would sacrifice everything I've worked so hard for. I'll be getting out when I can, trust me. -_-

EDIT~~Really, Arty? Wow. You really shouldn't say that, though, because Karin'll say you need even more help than -I- do. =O


Cannot leave where ? What did you work for ? Get out of ? Do you have some kind of ilness ? If so im sorry for calling you a retard.

[Katzyn]

Cannot leave where ? What did you work for ? Get out of ? Do you have some kind of ilness ? If so im sorry for calling you a retard.

You called me a retard? Oh, no~ A stranger, judges me and calls me a retard, I'm so hurt.

Read the post I responded to, and you might be able to answer some of your own questions. If no, I'm sorry, but I don't feel like telling you my life story.

Get back on topic, geez. I don't recall this topic being called "Kat's life, let's call her crazy".

[Dream Catcher]

You called me a retard? Oh, no~ A stranger, judges me and calls me a retard, I'm so hurt.

Read the post I responded to, and you might be able to answer some of your own questions. If no, I'm sorry, but I don't feel like telling you my life story.

Get back on topic, geez. I don't recall this topic being called "Kat's life, let's call her crazy".

Okay, first of all, you need to relax a bit... you are being too defensive and you don't need to...

Karin's language is harsh, but that's who he is, don't take it personally

And we are not trying to bash you or call you "retarted" , we are trying to figure out why in the world would anyone prefer animals over humans? You stated your reasons and we in turn stated our views on it... Obviously everyone thinks this isn't normal

[Karin<3]

You called me a retard? Oh, no~ A stranger, judges me and calls me a retard, I'm so hurt.

Read the post I responded to, and you might be able to answer some of your own questions. If no, I'm sorry, but I don't feel like telling you my life story.

Get back on topic, geez. I don't recall this topic being called "Kat's life, let's call her crazy".

I'm just trying to be a little nice since if you had some kind of illness it would not feel right calling u something, even on the internet. And it was not about you getting ''hurt'', it was about me having a stupid feeling because i insulted a handicapped person which has every reason to live their life as they do.

[papfles]

Obviously everyone thinks this isn't normal

Obviously not, otherwise Katzyn wouldn't disagree with you.

[Karin<3]

Obviously not, otherwise Katzyn wouldn't disagree with you.

And here come Mr.Nitpick *the crowd cheers*

[papfles]

And here come Mr.Nitpick *the crowd cheers*

Not banned yet, blaze? That's a welcome change, isn't it?


on-topic: I don't see what's wrong with Katzyn finding more joy / love from animals. A lot of people get that. She may push it a bit further than most, but actually, who cares if she does? Her choice.

[Karin<3]

Not banned yet, blaze? That's a welcome change, isn't it?


on-topic: I don't see what's wrong with Katzyn finding more joy / love from animals. A lot of people get that. She may push it a bit further than most, but actually, who cares if she does? Her choice.

I get that you can get joy from animals but real LOVE ?! Animals are more like upgraded toys, not degraded people. Yes you can get attached to a animal. Yes you can feel for a animal. But as soon as your feelings for the animal are on par with your feelings for a human being ... then it just gets gross. Maybe Katzyn is clinically retarded ? I don't know but yeah i have nothing to do with it so il leave it.

[papfles]

I get that you can get joy from animals but real LOVE ?! Animals are more like upgraded toys, not degraded people. Yes you can get attached to a animal. Yes you can feel for a animal. But as soon as your feelings for the animal are on par with your feelings for a human being ... then it just gets gross. Maybe Katzyn is clinically retarded ? I don't know but yeah i have nothing to do with it so il leave it.

Well, because animals can't talk, you can fill in the blanks that they give you by looking at you, purring and such I guess. It doesn't talk back, it doesn't degrade you, it accepts you just the way you are. Add some horrible experiences with fellow humans and I can see someone just losing faith in humanity and appreciating animals even more.
I wouldn't be able to do it myself though.

[Valleyman]

Well personally I don't think animals are worth living for, nor do I really find joy from them, even though I do like animals and such(kind of contradictory maybe?). What makes life worth living, I'm not sure...



Off topic: Just in case you didn't know this Karin, this isn't the ultimate spam zone so flaming and such shouldn't be allowed but oh well.

[Dream Catcher]

Well, because animals can't talk, you can fill in the blanks that they give you by looking at you, purring and such I guess. It doesn't talk back, it doesn't degrade you, it accepts you just the way you are. Add some horrible experiences with fellow humans and I can see someone just losing faith in humanity and appreciating animals even more.
I wouldn't be able to do it myself though.

That's probably the reason for her behavior... I've said before that she might have suffered some major trauma in the past. Maybe witnessed something horrible or been molested? Could also be related to her upbringing... parents neglected her and such

[Katzyn]

That's probably the reason for her behavior... I've said before that she might have suffered some major trauma in the past. Maybe witnessed something horrible or been molested? Could also be related to her upbringing... parents neglected her and such

I was going to just stop replying, but...

"Her behaviour"? I'm sorry, have I killed someone, or insulted someone for no reason? I simply stated why I felt the way I do, and so that equates to me either being mentally retarded or having been molested/neglected/abused? I'm sorry, but you guys are the ones being retarded and thinking way too much into this.

Ok, NOW I'm out, provided there isn't another asinine post like the quoted post that I must respond to.

[Dream Catcher]

Listen, no normal people love dogs over people... YES some do love animals a lot but they don't say "They are better than people, screw humanity"

W/E

[i_feel_tiredsleepy]

I was going to just stop replying, but...

"Her behaviour"? I'm sorry, have I killed someone, or insulted someone for no reason? I simply stated why I felt the way I do, and so that equates to me either being mentally retarded or having been molested/neglected/abused? I'm sorry, but you guys are the ones being retarded and thinking way too much into this.

Ok, NOW I'm out, provided there isn't another asinine post like the quoted post that I must respond to.

Don't worry Katzyn, anyone whose worked with animals for a long period will see how attached people become to their pets. I've seen more than a few clients gladly pay thousands of dollars to save their pets, and I've seen more than a few adults reduced to tears from the loss of a pet.

It is normal for people to become attached to their pets, especially if someone takes an invested interest in the care of their pet they grow to become very attached. We are programmed to become attached to what we care for, and it is hard for people to dislike something that they have cared years for and has returned nothing but simple affection to them.

Listen, no normal people love dogs over people... YES some do love animals a lot but they don't say "They are better than people, screw humanity"

W/E

Actually, misanthropy isn't that uncommon, a lot of people think that humanity is inferior. I don't but it's not that abnormal.

[Valleyman]

I was going to just stop replying, but...

"Her behaviour"? I'm sorry, have I killed someone, or insulted someone for no reason? I simply stated why I felt the way I do, and so that equates to me either being mentally retarded or having been molested/neglected/abused? I'm sorry, but you guys are the ones being retarded and thinking way too much into this.

Ok, NOW I'm out, provided there isn't another asinine post like the quoted post that I must respond to.


I think he was just mentioning thing that COULD have happend not neccessarily things that might have happend or did happen. And even if his wording seems somewhat rude he has a point that it isn't normal that you love animals more than other humans(for instance lovers, family, friends). And say maybe your family treated you wrongly in someway or you've had really bad experiences with lovers or friends that could have caused why you are the way you are. I think that's really all he meant. And if you are natrually that way I don't really mean to offend you.

P.S. I was just stating what DC might have meant. For all I know he could just be, being himself and being a jackass because he enjoys tormenting people(JK DC xD).

[Dream Catcher]

lol no you're right... that's what I meant when i said it, but I would naturally assume that people would realize that I mean things that COULD have happened and didn't happen (like you clarified)

btw, when my kitty died i was sad and cried and what not, and I love my new kitty.. but it doesn't mean i shun all humanity.

[Kristi]

I know EXACTLY where Katzyn is coming from. I have 8 dogs, 4 birds and fish, and have also been volunteering at an animal shelter for almost 3 years now. I have seen my share of happy endings and sadly, of tragedys as well, but no matter what has happened, animals have ALWAYS been and WILL ALWAYS be a huge part of my life. I dont care what other people think about animals but I believe they have souls and they have showed me so much unconditional love over the years without asking for anything in return, so yes they DO make life worth living to me.

[Arty]

Saying you like animals over humans only tells me of your stupid pre-judice and ignorance.

Edit : Okay , maybe im being to harsh. Even so -

[KageNaruto]

Listen, no normal people love dogs over people... YES some do love animals a lot but they don't say "They are better than people, screw humanity"

W/E

I do. So yes, some people do. But I just loathe humanity.

[remzrevolution]

I do. So yes, some people do. But I just loathe humanity.

i find it disturbing that you can say that you like an animal that submits to humans more than humans.

[KageNaruto]

i find it disturbing that you can say that you like an animal that submits to humans more than humans.

I find it disturbing that you find it disturbing. In short, I don't care what you can't comprehend.

[remzrevolution]

I find it disturbing that you find it disturbing. In short, I don't care what you can't comprehend.

You mean to tell me that there's some sort of super-logic behind your preference of dogs over humans that my puny mind cannot understand?

How could that be, given that I read no explanation or logic. Please, at least try me before you insult my comprehension.

[KageNaruto]

Just because you can't comprehend something a person thinks, does not make you dumber than they are. Quick to assume it was an insult?

I can comprehend why people prefer humans over animals, though I don't. You simply don't comprehend vice versa, and all I wanted to say was I could care less.

Humans are very disgusting vile creatures. I do not like them. If I ever came to rule the world, I would eliminate every one of them, including myself. :)

Dogs? I like reptiles more, but dogs are pretty cool too.

[remzrevolution]

Just because you can't comprehend something a person thinks, does not make you dumber than they are. Quick to assume it was an insult?

I can comprehend why people prefer humans over animals, though I don't. You simply don't comprehend vice versa, and all I wanted to say was I could care less.

Humans are very disgusting vile creatures. I do not like them. If I ever came to rule the world, I would eliminate every one of them, including myself. :)

Dogs? I like reptiles more, but dogs are pretty cool too.

I'm wondering why you're taking time to explain if you could 'care less.'

however. i think you are a very messed up person, honestly.

I do.

first you say 'i do', then you say 'i don't'. which is it?

[KageNaruto]

first you say 'i do', then you say 'i don't'. which is it?

Because you adressed me, and I responded.

And to what I quoted, did you read right? I'm quite sure you didn't.

[Dream Catcher]

wow... this forum is full of people who need serious mental help (surprise surprise)

[remzrevolution]

I do.
I don't.

pretty hard to misread these.
Because you adressed me, and I responded.

And to what I quoted, did you read right? I'm quite sure you didn't.


you responded because you responded? lolwut?

[KageNaruto]

Haha, I disagree. I'm completely stable and happy and enjoy life. I've just come to various conclusions after debating things in my mind for a few years(I enjoy wondering about random thoughts when bored or trying to fall asleep).

[Dream Catcher]

You calling humanity vile and youd kill everyone including urself and saying u live a happy life is already VERY contradicting...

stop

[remzrevolution]

Haha, I disagree. I'm completely stable and happy and enjoy life. I've just come to various conclusions after debating things in my mind for a few years(I enjoy wondering about random thoughts when bored or trying to fall asleep).

You disagree? of course you would. crazy people never think they're crazy.

[KageNaruto]

You disagree? of course you would. crazy people never think they're crazy.

I've seen a few who do.

Oh and...

pretty hard to misread these.





Since it seems you can't read:

"I can comprehend why people prefer humans over animals, though I don't."

I just said I don't prefer humans over animals. Still can't read?

And to DC, even the Bible states how evil humans are and how they all deserve to burn in hell, and I'm sure many Christians believe this and still enjoy life. Though I'm not Christian, but if you still can't get how it's NOT a contradiction... I guess that's it. Not to mentioned I didn't say I would kill everyone. But if I was in a position where it was possible without fail, then yes I would take the initiative. Is it ever gonna happen? I'm more likely to win the lottery dozens and dozens of times over. You just don't get it.

[remzrevolution]

I've seen a few who do.

Oh and...



Since it seems you can't read:

"I can comprehend why people prefer humans over animals, though I don't."

I just said I don't prefer humans over animals. Still can't read?

dammit. i did read it wrong. fail.

[i_feel_tiredsleepy]

You disagree? of course you would. crazy people never think they're crazy.

Are you heating up your banmagnet Remz? lol

Why do we have so much back and forth bickering on the forums these days.

[KageNaruto]

Are you heating up your banmagnet Remz? lol

Why do we have so much back and forth bickering on the forums these days.

I find it more fun, unless things get out of control.

Like I would ban him for saying that, geez. Maybe if he threw in a few swears and serious insults.

[i_feel_tiredsleepy]

I find it more fun, unless things get out of control.

Like I would ban him for saying that, geez. Maybe if he threw in a few swears and serious insults.

Lol you should see the things remz has been banned for in the past, he has a nack for it.

[Eyeshield 21]

Wow, people judging someone just because he/she has difference of belief and telling him/her that he/she has issues.. real mature of you guys.. oh and wait arent these the guys who say, "Its internet peoplez.. its not meant to be serious.. ".. irony eh..

On topic: Life is too complex to be realized why it is worth living.. so

[Dream Catcher]

Wow, people judging someone just because he/she has difference of belief and telling him/her that he/she has issues.. real mature of you guys.. oh and wait arent these the guys who say, "Its internet peoplez.. its not meant to be serious.. ".. irony eh..

On topic: Life is too complex to be realized why it is worth living.. so

So when doctor diagnose people, they judge them ? (just saying)

and (again) i have no problem with loving animals or what not. But preferring company of animals over humans, and choosing animals as companions over humans and wanting humans to die (including yourself) .. that's issues

[Eyeshield 21]

So when doctor diagnose people, they judge them ? (just saying)

and (again) i have no problem with loving animals or what not. But preferring company of animals over humans, and choosing animals as companions over humans and wanting humans to die (including yourself) .. that's issues

A doctor when he/she tells his/hers patient of a bad news (I am assuming thats what you meant), has a good interest of patient in his heart (or mind w.e.).Plus he doesnt go.."ha ha you got cancer, sucka!!".

Even if those are issues, those are hers to be dealt with. I dont see any reason for not voicing your opinion and suggesting someone, but the lnguage that was used clear wasnt for that.

(Btw I didnt mean you.. well may be a little.. but seeing as you feel strongly about it , its to be expected..)

On topic: I have known many people who live for materialisting means, and they would clearly choose money and wait...... sex over some people..

[KageNaruto]

So when doctor diagnose people, they judge them ? (just saying)

and (again) i have no problem with loving animals or what not. But preferring company of animals over humans, and choosing animals as companions over humans and wanting the human race to be erased from the world and equilibrium to be restored

Fixed to be proper. Also it would be an issue if I actually took action, killed people, thought about killing people, and hated everybody I saw walk by me. Which does not happen. Heck, my life philosophy is "There probably isn't any meaning to life, might as well have fun while you're at it." Which if you're too dumb to understand and think it means to do whatever you want, it means to attempt to take the paths and choices that would result in a life that had the most fun possible when you do go out.

Ignorance and being able to view the world from only your perspective is what really has to be diagnosed in this world in my opinion. That's the worst issue.

A prime example of Katzyn saying how the crowd here at chaos is so much worse than it used to be.

[D.J.]

For the pure joy of living is all :)

[Dream Catcher]

@ Kage : First of all... this is evolution, this is nature. What equilibrium ?? You're talking about being ignorant and you don't even realize how moronic you sound right now..

I won't even discuss this anymore because you keep bringing up the same invalid point and making fact out of it.

And if you didn't know, suicidal thoughts are a big mental issue, and that's what you're hinting at. But don't take my word for it, re-read your own posts

[D.J.]

You know why I live? Its cause I don't want to die. Its not so much as what happens to me, but the people around me. Thats the part that truly scares me.

[Dream Catcher]

You know why I live? Its cause I don't want to die. Its not so much as what happens to me, but the people around me. Thats the part that truly scares me.

Imagine finding out you're terminal.... that's prolly the worst way to go

[D.J.]

Hmm can you explain?

[KageNaruto]

@ Kage : First of all... this is evolution, this is nature. What equilibrium ?? You're talking about being ignorant and you don't even realize how moronic you sound right now..

I won't even discuss this anymore because you keep bringing up the same invalid point and making fact out of it.

And if you didn't know, suicidal thoughts are a big mental issue, and that's what you're hinting at. But don't take my word for it, re-read your own posts

I would hardly count it suicidal if I elimnate humans as a whole, I would call them apocalyptical. I have NEVER thought of suicide in my whole life (except for the "purging" ideal of course, haha). Of course I can also leave myself, and just die off naturally, but you know that would be selfish.

Evolution has also led us into something I would no longer consider an animal, and something which will probably in time die out and destory the majority of the earth with it. I just want to speed things up so the earth is still a bit green when it happens, but of course I have no way of doing this and don't plan to do anything of the sort unless some sort of miracle happens.

You don't realize how ignorant you sound either, I have thought over what I'm saying for a long long time, i don't have to re-read it. I'm not making fact out of it, this is all opinion and subjective. I don't care if you disagree, but insults are quite annoying.

[Dream Catcher]

Hmm can you explain?

well you said "Its not so much as what happens to me, but the people around me." So I'm thinking you might have seen some bad stuff happen to people around you before (maybe not) but if that would happen to you it would be pretty horrible both mentally and physically ...


if that made any sense

[Tatsu]

Life is worth living because of the people around you and just because its so unpredictable and i know that can be a bad thing at times, but it also makes life so much fun ^^

For the pure joy of living is all :)

And for that reason also!

thought id add my 5 cents to the convo :P

[Arty]

Well , having people thinking about how better the world would be without us might actually be what makes it better.

To be honest you are arguing on a broken context and the arguing from both sides is invalid.

[Kristi]

wow... this forum is full of people who need serious mental help (surprise surprise) If by mental help you mean those of you who dont know how to properly interact with others who have a diffenent opinion from yours? Then yes..yes it is.

[Arty]

Actually what Dream is saying is valid.

Its actually a disorder ^^

You can prolly get pills for that.

[Kristi]

Actually what Dream is saying is valid.Its actually a disorder ^^ You can prolly get pills for that.Im a psych student..ive studied disorders thoroughly, and trust me, having an opinion is NOT a disorder T.T

[Arty]

I didnt say it was.

I said that Dreams point , witch is that what kage is saying could be caused by a mental disorder of some sort - is valid.

And you just inflated the context.

I can now say that yes , an opinion is not a "disorder" but the basis of witch one can reach a conclusion , view , thoughts and opinions can be a disorder.

Thus the opinion is based on something cased by a disorder.

[Kristi]

I didnt say it was.

I said that Dreams point , witch is that what kage is saying could be caused by a mental disorder of some sort - is valid.

And you just inflated the context.

I can now say that yes , an opinion is not a "disorder" but the basis of witch one can reach a conclusion , view , thoughts and opinions can be a disorder.

Thus the opinion is based on something cased by a disorder.

Kage didn't say anything wrong or invalid though. It's not like he said he thinks about death and suicide all day and gets pleasure from watching other people suffer and causing pain and destruction T_T

Plus, to add to your point, you can also tell if someone has psychological problems by the way they write and speak, and from what i studied, Kage definately does NOT fit into that. He writes like a normal and healthy person. He just has a different opinion from DC, and immediately DC started jumping to drastic conclusions.

So once again, DC is baseing this accusation solely on his own frustration towards Kage's opinion, and I hughly doubt that DC has had any intense studies in the field of disorders anyway, so whos he to judge?

I'm just saying I think its ridiculous to start jumping to conclusions like that based on a difference of opinions.

[Katzyn]

It's okay, Kristi. Arty and DC are simply proving several of the points I have made on this forum:

1) NC can no longer have a real discussion, because in this case, people simply shoot down everything you say, and assume incorrect things about you, because they erroneously assume "you just can't be normal". It doesn't matter that the evidence that leads us to have a different opinion is ALL OVER THE NEWS (and this forum, might I add), but there obviously MUST be something wrong in our brains.

2) Also, like I just said in the last part of #1, people are too judgemental. Just because someone has a different opinion than you, that doesn't mean they're crazy. In fact, if you could be so ignorant and think that humans are the best thing on this planet, I suggest maybe YOU get your head checked. "Best thing on the planet" does not equate to "something that's destroying the planet". Humans will be the death of not only all other humans, but all animals and plants as well, and hardly anyone cares about it.

I was thinking of making a new topic, about why I feel this way, what are all these awful things humans do? but I realized it would proably be spammed with "you're crazy", or "something must have happened to you to make you this way". So, I'm not going to waste my time, unless someone is actually interested in hearing what I think.

[tsunade ^_^]

alo alo! looks its meh sista!!! meeeaaaw ;)

I kind of agree with you there. People arent as serious on the forum like back in the days. I thinks its due to the pervertedness and sarcasm of some other members. But i doubt that itl change. Thats just the way things are.

Anyhoooo, what makes my life worth living is MUSIC!!! Doesnt matter how crappy I feel whenever I listen to some great music I cheer up. And yes I know it sounds queer but its true. When im pissed or sad, the music somehow calms me and lets me look at things through another perspective!!!

[Eyeshield 21]

Not having serious discussion is one thing, and insulting someone flat out is other..

FYI: We do have serious discussions and some "spam" in it once in a while doesnt hurt much..

[tsunade ^_^]

if the shoe fits, wear it my bru. I wasnt talking about anyone in particular

[Katzyn]

Not having serious discussion is one thing, and insulting someone flat out is other..

FYI: We do have serious discussions and some "spam" in it once in a while doesnt hurt much..

Yes, but when one topic, such as this, turns almost completely into a topic about what could have caused two people to have such crazy opinions, they must have mental disorders or traumatic experiences, then I'd say that a little more than "some spam". And this happens a lot, it seems, only it's usually not people calling each other mentally messed up; it's random pictures, and insults, and just plain off topic BS.

[tsunade ^_^]

amen sister. tell it like it is

[Eyeshield 21]

Yes, but when one topic, such as this, turns almost completely into a topic about what could have caused two people to have such crazy opinions, they must have mental disorders or traumatic experiences, then I'd say that a little more than "some spam". And this happens a lot, it seems, only it's usually not people calling each other mentally messed up; it's random pictures, and insults, and just plain off topic BS.

I suppose thats when the mods come in.. I wouldnt say what they should and shouldnt do but ANYWAYS..

On topic:

@Arty: I'd like to know the proof of that ma man. There are many things in this world thats not worth living for, and you being right is probably one of them. :p

[Arty]

Proof of what?

That anti-humanist hatred justified with a cosmic utilitarianist reason is not normal and the view could be considered to be symptons of insanity? Disorder?

Or the clear case of SI we have in this thread?

Proof of what Eyeshield...

You dont need to be a fucking proffessor in Psychology to figure that out.

[Karin<3]

Proof of what?

That anti-humanist hatred justified with a cosmic utilitarianist reason is not normal and the view could be considered to be symptons of insanity? Disorder?

Or the clear case of SI we have in this thread?

Proof of what Eyeshield...

You dont need to be a fucking proffessor in Psychology to figure that out.

Tbh you usually act like one xD, some of your posts sound to intellectual and thus are boring. Some i said, not most :>

[Arty]

Thats to bad since i try and add ironic mockery into every single argument i refute :(

[Lukasz]

what makes life worth living?

It depends on the person. For some love, knowledge, to prove oneself, to accomplish.

I try to live my life to one rule I set myself years ago.
"Have fun and let others have it too"

Live your life and enjoy it in any way you wish as long as you let others do the same.
There is nothing deeper than that in my opinion.

[DesecratioN]

To selfishly defy death.


That is the only point of life as all you know will eventaully wither into nothing

[Kumo]

To selfishly defy death.


That is the only point of life as all you know will eventaully wither into nothingThe point of life and what makes it worth it are two different things.

The point of human life is to strive to bring an end to all change.

What makes life worth it would have to be happiness.

[remzrevolution]

The point of human life is to strive to bring an end to all change.

What makes life worth it would have to be happiness.

maybe the point of YOUR life is to bring an end to all change. All human life? certainly not.

Happiness is relative. And still just an emotion.

[Kumo]

maybe the point of YOUR life is to bring an end to all change. All human life? certainly not.

Happiness is relative. And still just an emotion.Human life AS A WHOLE.

What does happiness being relative (or an emotion, for that matter) have to do with anything?

[remzrevolution]

Human life AS A WHOLE.

What does happiness being relative (or an emotion, for that matter) have to do with anything?

lies.

you will always pursue a greater form of happiness, and being an emotion, it will always fade, and you will go in search of it again. and again. until you run yourself down.

[Kumo]

lies.Basis for this?

you will always pursue a greater form of happiness, and being an emotion, it will always fade, and you will go in search of it again. and again. until you run yourself down.And the chasing sucks but the happiness you reach makes life good.

Off topic: is just me or does every thread i make a comment in turn into an arguement?
:focus:

[remzrevolution]

Basis for this?



I try to change a lot of things.


i win.

[Katzyn]

Basis for this?

And the chasing sucks but the happiness you reach makes life good.

Off topic: is just me or does every thread i make a comment in turn into an arguement?
:focus:

Don't worry, you're not the only one who that happens to. =P

For the sake of being on-topic~I live for seeing the beautiful sunset, too.

[Kumo]

I try to change a lot of things.what the fuck?


i win.
No. You surrendered by refusing to answer my arguement.

Epic phail.

(Wow... first time i've ever been involved in an epic fail that wasn't me >.> lol XD)

[Tatsujin]

little things like that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8cCzltPD6Y

[remzrevolution]

what the fuck?


No. You surrendered by refusing to answer my arguement.

Epic phail.

(Wow... first time i've ever been involved in an epic fail that wasn't me >.> lol XD)

no. you said the point of human life is to end all change. my goal is not to end change. i am human life. i win. silly noob.

[KageNaruto]

For the sake of being on-topic~I live for seeing the beautiful sunset, too.

When the clouds that cover the horizon are just right, a the crazy sunshine from a sunrise beats any sunset. Though to catch said sunrise is much harder than catch then a good sunset. Of course this is also opinion from personal experience.

Another thing I like to look forward to in life is skimboarding on the beaches of Hawaii.

[Katzyn]

When the clouds that cover the horizon are just right, a the crazy sunshine from a sunrise beats any sunset. Though to catch said sunrise is much harder than catch then a good sunset. Of course this is also opinion from personal experience.

Another thing I like to look forward to in life is skimboarding on the beaches of Hawaii.

I look forward to doing that as well, when I go to visit my girlfriend after she moves back to Kauai...Although she'll have to teach me how to do all that stuff. XD

[Kumo]

no. you said the point of human life is to end all change. my goal is not to end change. i am human life. i win. silly noob.Think about everything humans have ever done.

The attempt to further medicine is done to keep people from dying, and therefore changing the enviorment they affected.

Same for immortality.

Wars are fought over territory because everyone wants to get to the point where change is no longer neccesary.

The ability to travel quickly means that change in the enviorment they were originally in is reduced as much as possible.

People who have power and wealth strive to keep and protect it.

People like routine because they know exactly how the day is gonna play out.

The idea of a global empire would mean that name and rulers would never change, aside from the obvious death thing >.>

Humans avoid change like the plaque unless it helps to stabilize something, in which case they are making a small change to prevent a bigger one.

Humans abhor chaos because it is unending change.

*pauses for a breath*

EDIT: I'm sorry if i said point, i meant "overall goal"

[DesecratioN]

lies.

you will always pursue a greater form of happiness, and being an emotion, it will always fade, and you will go in search of it again. and again. until you run yourself down.

This is not a truth as in all cases there is no universal truth.

In fact as a whole the only universal truth is that there is no universal truth.

The point of living and what makes live worht living are relative. In the end all life has no point as all you acomplish is relative to yourself and those around you. Eventaully all that will come to and end and those accomplishments will ammount ot nothing.

Hence why I said nothing makes life worth living and that the point of living is simply to live.

There are some of us who are indifferent with life and who choose a neutral backseat. While I am not saying I deprive myself of earthly joys (which I do most definitley do not) I can also say that I do not exist simply to seek out joys.

[tsunade ^_^]

holy shit O_O i am now officially confused

[Mousie]

/off topic

There is NOTHING wrong with Katzyn saying she lives for her lovable animals. She is not crazy nor any in. Hell...I personally would have considered it wrong if people said they lived for drugs, bad secks, or just making other peoples lives a living hell. But can't please everyone and everyone can't be pleased. So refrain from insults or a degrading choice of words for someone with completely different views on what to live for.

/on topic

I live to live. I carry no regrets because it allows and enables to me to appreciate who I am today. I live to stay on a never ending journey of doing good things to anything that comes, learn from mistakes, and to enjoy life for what it is. Life is short, live freely and wisely. Appreciate what 'is' as opposed to what 'if' and things usually will have a better outcome :3.

[tsunade ^_^]

I agree there. I also live for my little poodle kimi. Id probably cry nonstop if something were to happen to her.

And to what mous said is true aswell. Life is what we make of it

[ScareCrow]

My Girlfriend.
Music.
Cigarettes.
Trees. <If you're thinking the ones in your backyard, you don't need to know.>
Jack n' Coke.
Corona with Lime on a Hot Summer Day on a Beach.
Friends.
Naruto. <Somewhat <.< >
Philosophical Discussions/Debates.
Reading a good book under the shade of a tree on a nice sunny day.
Football.
Laying in a hammock with my girlfriend with a cigarette in one hand, and a bottle of beer in the other.
Whip Cream.
Authentic Italian Cooking.
Creativity.
My Dog Doolie.

[Sakuno]

Weell my pets
My close friends
My VERY close Boyfriend
Fullmetal
stress food <3~ (or any food at all)
Anytime i can get a date with my Sozo~

[Dream Catcher]

Food
Friends
Living

[DesecratioN]

I live to live.


The basis of what my entire post as about.

People live simply to live. There is no point to life other then to simply live it. Do not over complicate things. (not you particularly mouse but what some were trying to get at)

[Lukasz]

The basis of what my entire post as about.

People live simply to live. There is no point to life other then to simply live it. Do not over complicate things. (not you particularly mouse but what some were trying to get at)

Indeed... in a way.

There is point to everybody's life but one should find it/create it in one's own.
Whatever you chooses, as long as you don't hurt others and preventing them choosing the point for themselves is alright.

That's my view on the world and one of the reason I dislike religious organizations.

[Sozoku]

Living life is what makes life worth living.

[Izanagi]

now that was a profound one

my family and music

[Arty]

My treasure.

[i_feel_tiredsleepy]

My treasure.

You leprechaun!

*follows the rainbow to steal Arty's pot of gold*

[Erosannin]

This isn't some philisophical debate topic. Merely state as many things you can think of that make life worth living for.


Choice is quite obvious:

PORNS

[DesecratioN]

Indeed... in a way.

There is point to everybody's life but one should find it/create it in one's own.
Whatever you chooses, as long as you don't hurt others and preventing them choosing the point for themselves is alright.

That's my view on the world and one of the reason I dislike religious organizations.

Then What if I enjoy instilling pain unto others? Does that mean my life is not worth living?

[Lukasz]

Then What if I enjoy instilling pain unto others? Does that mean my life is not worth living?
yep. and you should be hanged with your own intestines.
also set on fire

[DesecratioN]

yep. and you should be hanged with your own intestines.
also set on fire


To each man his own just be prepared for said consequences. Also I love the contradiction of such statements. You are opposed to pain and death yet you yourself are doing same said action as a form of retribution.

I'll never understand the whole eye for an eye if you yourself are opposed to the original eye stabber.

[spacecadet319]

didn't you know hypocrisy is as natural to people as taking a shit. Same as lying and acting; we are such wonderful creatures.

[Anthony Uchiha]

Family and manga

[Steel Paladin]

watching someone get pwnd or ownd

[DesecratioN]

Your responses Paladin are some of the most generic and uninspiring i have seen in some time.

[Erosannin]

Alright, putting usual jokes aside...

1) My sizzling hot, Korean vixxxen wife...
2) My daughter who's still cookin underneath my wife's belly... "due in October folks! send me some diapers!!" :D
3) My friends and my associates of all ages, sex, and nationality... including my fellow NCers...

And... that's it really...

Oh wait...

4) Champaign and Cognacs too ofcourse... :D

[Karin<3]

Your responses Paladin are some of the most generic and uninspiring i have seen in some time.

Read the OP, this thread isn't about serious things.

[Seraphiel]

Alright, putting usual jokes aside...

1) My sizzling hot, Korean vixxxen wife...
2) My daughter who's still cookin underneath my wife's belly... "due in October folks! send me some diapers!!" :D
3) My friends and my associates of all ages, sex, and nationality... including my fellow NCers...

And... that's it really...

Oh wait...

4) Champaign and Cognacs too ofcourse... :D


Hennessy?

xo or vs?

[Erosannin]

Hennessy?

xo or vs?

Remy brotha... ^__^

XO is too expensive, but I do drink the Remy Martin 1738 Accord Royale, which is above VSOP but below XO line... You can get em pretty decent at Bevmo!~ :D

But I do drink XO at least once a year (during my wife's b-day ofcourse...)