Frustration and Depression--ation

[Chidongan]

haha sorry about the title. its just that it had to rhyme. ^^

okies here is a thread, in which you can discuss anything that frustrates you, or pisses you off. as well as things that depress you.

all in all this thread is made to help you. writing down (or even typing) what you are feeling will help you get it off your chest and makes you feel better. and god knows we all want that. ^^

i'll begin.

Quoted from: !~*^Halloween^*~! thread.

dude my mom hails from pakistan. she has this belief that you have to listen to your parents, and if you dont you get the boot.

and though that does sound like fun (being kicked outta me own house) i have no way of surviving. i dont have a job, and even if i did. i wouldn't know how to survive in this world. >.>

oh another thing that pisses me off:

in our culture we believe that you're still kids even after you turn 18, until the day you are married you will still be considered minors. *smirk*

BAHHH!! i hate it.!!

there are more things that frustrate me, but i dont want to overwhelm you guys with new information, so it'll have to wait.

-Chidongan

[Katzyn]

I hate it when the guy you reaaaaally like gives you mixed signals, -particularly- when he supposedly loves someone else. =O

I also hate waiting in line for something. I -hate- it.

[Bap]

It hate it when people get frustrated or depressed over simplistic issues.

[Solace]

It hate it when people get frustrated or depressed over simplistic issues.

aka emo people :p

i just dotn understand... sigh,

[superkhanh0]

i hate it wen my parents get over protected and keep me from having fun :-( i no i wont do anythin stupid but they wont trust me
sigh i suppose to go to this halloween party in DC :-( freakin A lol

[Octo]

I hate everything except this forum and kat.

[Azure Wrath]

i hate... hinata...
i hate... being in a situation... where you are on the outside, looking in. When you are on the doorstep of someones heart, knocking, to be let in. Then they open the door, agknowledge that you are there, but not letting you in. You can see how warm and cozy it is inside and you are inches away fom it... but you cant get it... you wonder what to do. Do you stay there, hoping that maybe you will be let in sometime in the future, or do you walk away, only for them to open the door for you, once you have walked
i also hate peas.

[V.VELDANEN]

I hate it when girls try to act cute.

DIE





It hate it when people get frustrated or depressed over simplistic issues.

...and that too. Not that I haven't got simplistic issues to frustrate over before, when its all over, I realize how dumb was I get all worried about it.

Just try to be more objective and positive.

[Bap]

Yeah -- I hate it much more when I realize I was frustrated over something simplistic.

[NarutoNineTails]

I can't stand girls who act all innocent when they are sluts...umm...should I rephrase that...eh forget it...I'll apologize if someone gets offended. ;)

[Chidongan]

i hate... being in a situation... where you are on the outside, looking in. When you are on the doorstep of someones heart, knocking, to be let in. Then they open the door, agknowledge that you are there, but not letting you in. You can see how warm and cozy it is inside and you are inches away fom it... but you cant get it... you wonder what to do. Do you stay there, hoping that maybe you will be let in sometime in the future, or do you walk away, only for them to open the door for you, once you have walked

i know exactly what you mean. i hate it too.

i hate that i cant be with someone i love. (with a possibility that she likes me back)

i hate that i have to follow these stupid rules (religion) even though i could care less about them.

i hate that my mom's culture says that you shouldn't give your kids freedom, and she listens to them.

i hate that i have no freedom.

i hate even more that kids who are a few years younger than me, already have much more freedom than i could ever dream of.


*giggles*

[zoldic777]

i hate nearly everything in life... i'm starting to hate myself :p.. life is sick, it just makes u suffer more and more....too much restrictions i'm really getting sick alright O.o

[Bap]

I hate people who hate life

[.........]

I hate people who hate life

so you don't like emos/suicidal pussies?

[Bap]

That would be correct.

[Named]

I can't stand girls who act all innocent when they are sluts...umm...should I rephrase that...eh forget it...I'll apologize if someone gets offended. ;)

Oh dear gods, a thousand times yes. I've gone out with one of these! Heartless wench she was!

Look at me, world. Love me, i'm so adorable and cute and innocent ^-^ Please idolise me? Please lust after me ;)

WHORE! *points accusingly* No emotions!

[badash]

I get frustrated with people who cant look after themselves, who think that everything that has gone bad in their life is harder then anybody else's.

Those who cry about small things... damn them.

[Azure Wrath]

i hate it when people bitch about how terrible their lives are and especially if they complain about how they can't get anywhere because they come from a shitty background or a shady past

[Bap]

WEll some people -do- have terrible lives. But I can't respect anyone who says life itself is terrible. It's all anyone has, you have control over it, don't throw it away. This was the point of my "Merciful Death" topic -- if I was dying, I would stil try to hold on to life as long as possible, not because I'm afraid of death, but because I love life.

[badash]

WEll some people -do- have terrible lives. But I can't respect anyone who says life itself is terrible. It's all anyone has, you have control over it, don't throw it away. This was the point of my "Merciful Death" topic -- if I was dying, I would stil try to hold on to life as long as possible, not because I'm afraid of death, but because I love life.

AWWWWW DUDE... you don't just "live" life you "LOVE" life!!!!!

I like it but it does suck sometimes.

PS: Great quote man!

[V.VELDANEN]

WEll some people -do- have terrible lives. But I can't respect anyone who says life itself is terrible. It's all anyone has, you have control over it, don't throw it away. This was the point of my "Merciful Death" topic -- if I was dying, I would stil try to hold on to life as long as possible, not because I'm afraid of death, but because I love life.


Great point, no matter how bad it is, you will always have something to live for if you just try.

[zoldic777]

like what O.o?

[Named]

Experiencing your life. Potentially everything.

Why the hell should others tell you what you have to live for? It's your life, it's your purpose to discover that.

If you choose to waste it by falling into a pit of pathetic despair, then there is nothing others can do. You cannot save people from themselves.

Do whatever you want.

[zoldic777]

ok, i get ur point....

@chindongan
can i hear more of ur moms cultures if u dont mind plz =D

[NMK]

I doubt that you love life all the time, there's times when everything is basically crap. Life is just like a rollercoster, which you've propably heard a lot of times.

But just like Bap said, you've the control of your life, don't throw it away.

[Azure Wrath]

ooh, i hae another one
i hate it when things go wrong and people blame it on fate!

[NMK]

I hate when people blame me for something that I haven't done, just because that I usually "do" stuff they think it's me when it isn't. Why?

lol

[Chidongan]

ok, i get ur point....

@chindongan
can i hear more of ur moms cultures if u dont mind plz =D

uhh yeah sure.
well shes pakistani, so that means shes from pakistan. and like most eastern countries it is very un-modernized. it's basically the same beliefs as all asian countries. respect your parents. do whatever your parents tell you. guys and grils shouldn't talk to someone of the opposite sex (unless they are relitives). parents should arrange their childs marriage. etc, etc.

theres alot more, i just cant think of any. and most of the 'rules' go hand in hand with my religion, so the culture and religion are pretty much the same. except religion is more strict.

what really 'grinds my gears' is that my friend and i were talking, and she told me that she was reading the quran (our version of the bible) and it said that, "Islam is the religion of the age" or something like that. it supposed to change with time. i.e. alot of muslim women wear coat's to cover their bodies, that was the way it should've been done long ago. your supposed to cover your body by your time's standards.

i.e. my friend told me that 'back in the day' women used to wear sheets as clothing, and you could basically see everything. so it would make since if they covered every inch of their body then. but now, women walk around in bikini's and such and no one really cares that much. sure, we look at them, and their body, but after that we're done, we're not gonna be fantasizing about them all day. so by today's standards, if women are supposed to 'cover' themselves, a simple pair of jeans and shirt should do it. but unfortunately people dont understand that. there still stuck in the past.

[NarutoNineTails]

uhh yeah sure.
well shes pakistani, so that means shes from pakistan. and like most eastern countries it is very un-modernized. it's basically the same beliefs as all asian countries. respect your parents. do whatever your parents tell you. guys and grils shouldn't talk to someone of the opposite sex (unless they are relitives). parents should arrange their childs marriage. etc, etc.


I think you generalized the term "eastern" too far here. Un-modernized? Do whatever your parents tell you? Guys and girls shouldn't talk? When did these fall under the same umbrella of most eastern countries. Maybe for the middle east and its vicinity? :P

[Named]

I doubt that you love life all the time, there's times when everything is basically crap. Life is just like a rollercoster, which you've propably heard a lot of times.

But just like Bap said, you've the control of your life, don't throw it away.

Only when you choose to allow it to be. Only when your happiness is defined by emotions, as opposed to purpose.

I am always happy. I ALWAYS love life. Because I don't pursue materialistic desires, to a height, only to fall to a low when they are gone or lose their fascination.
When you base your happiness on whimsical emotion - yeah, life becomes a rollercoaster.
When you base it on something a little more substantial; you'll find its not.

Don't forget, happiness is a man-made concept. Who has to go without it? You can always redefine it.

[Chidongan]

I think you generalized the term "eastern" too far here. Un-modernized? Do whatever your parents tell you? Guys and girls shouldn't talk? When did these fall under the same umbrella of most eastern countries. Maybe for the middle east and its vicinity? :P

yes, yes, sorry. i meant middle-eastern. ^^

[NarutoNineTails]

Thanks for clarifying that.

imo:
If u live in the state chidongan, your mom should be somewhat respectful or at least understanding of the US culture that you r living in. If that isn't the case, it would be a tough environment to grow up. There are advantages and drawbacks of differing cultures and it shouldn't be viewed as one culture being "completely better" than the other imo.

[zoldic777]

uhh yeah sure.
well shes pakistani, so that means shes from pakistan. and like most eastern countries it is very un-modernized. it's basically the same beliefs as all asian countries. respect your parents. do whatever your parents tell you. guys and grils shouldn't talk to someone of the opposite sex (unless they are relitives). parents should arrange their childs marriage. etc, etc.

theres alot more, i just cant think of any. and most of the 'rules' go hand in hand with my religion, so the culture and religion are pretty much the same. except religion is more strict.

what really 'grinds my gears' is that my friend and i were talking, and she told me that she was reading the quran (our version of the bible) and it said that, "Islam is the religion of the age" or something like that. it supposed to change with time. i.e. alot of muslim women wear coat's to cover their bodies, that was the way it should've been done long ago. your supposed to cover your body by your time's standards.

i.e. my friend told me that 'back in the day' women used to wear sheets as clothing, and you could basically see everything. so it would make since if they covered every inch of their body then. but now, women walk around in bikini's and such and no one really cares that much. sure, we look at them, and their body, but after that we're done, we're not gonna be fantasizing about them all day. so by today's standards, if women are supposed to 'cover' themselves, a simple pair of jeans and shirt should do it. but unfortunately people dont understand that. there still stuck in the past.

ah, i see, it happens alot with other people, (its the same ol thing where i live ROFL) then later when u just raise ur voice a bit when ur tired they say ur being rude and not respecting them.... i just hate it too >_>


Only when you choose to allow it to be. Only when your happiness is defined by emotions, as opposed to purpose.

I am always happy. I ALWAYS love life. Because I don't pursue materialistic desires, to a height, only to fall to a low when they are gone or lose their fascination.
When you base your happiness on whimsical emotion - yeah, life becomes a rollercoaster.
When you base it on something a little more substantial; you'll find its not.

Don't forget, happiness is a man-made concept. Who has to go without it? You can always redefine it.

you can't just find hapiness, especially when u got a family like mine, first of all parents dont trust you, when something happens yea i always hear your name >_> i feel so bad for being blamed or everything, godamn!!!!, U can;t get a gf, u can't hang out with friends, u can't talk with someone on the phone, u dont really have friends to hand out with :X, u try ur best not to get into trouble to please ur parents and yet they call u a computer nerd x()X
, they say ur mad when in reality ur just tired, i just hate hearing their voice makes me feel like dying lol, my small sister never spends one day without crying XD too bad for her, and all my mom says is " thats ur dad, get used to him" well who cares, as time passes u feel better and u think up of something to solve previous things so life isn;t that bad anyway :)

So i hate life because u suffer in it, i want to a have a life like other people have, thats all =), oh btw, the top paragraph is also the list of stuff that frustrate me :) ok time to chill

[Named]

ah, i see, it happens alot with other people, (its the same ol thing where i live ROFL) then later when u just raise ur voice a bit when ur tired they say ur being rude and not respecting them.... i just hate it too >_>




you can't just find hapiness, especially when u got a family like mine, first of all parents dont trust you, when something happens yea i always hear your name >_> i feel so bad for being blamed or everything, godamn!!!!, U can;t get a gf, u can't hang out with friends, u can't talk with someone on the phone, u dont really have friends to hand out with :X, u try ur best not to get into trouble to please ur parents and yet they call u a computer nerd x()X
, they say ur mad when in reality ur just tired, i just hate hearing their voice makes me feel like dying lol, my small sister never spends one day without crying XD too bad for her, and all my mom says is " thats ur dad, get used to him" well who cares, as time passes u feel better and u think up of something to solve previous things so life isn;t that bad anyway :)

So i hate life because u suffer in it, i want to a have a life like other people have, thats all =), oh btw, the top paragraph is also the list of stuff that frustrate me :) ok time to chill

I don't have a family. So honestly, wah-wah. No where in any of that complaining did I see a reason not to be happy. Happiness is not an EMOTION, no effect of emotions should ever weigh on it. Happiness is not something you acquire with a girlfriend or with having friends to hang out with. These are merely distractions from misery. Happiness is being content with your existence; awakening your senses and feeling the only life you'll ever have. Make the effort.

If you can find a balance in your life, why should anything you just said to me even MATTER? It won't even impact on you.
It seems to be your choice to base what is happiness on your external experiences, rather than your internal. CHANGE THAT. If you cannot attain what qualifies as happiness for other people because of your family- REDEFINE HAPPINESS so that you can.

If you want to continue to whine and complain and excuse the responsibility you have to yourself, then go ahead, but know that it is no one's fault but your own if you are not happy. Not your family's, not your situation's. Just you and your choice to mourn what you don't have rather than to appreciate what you do.

I never said you can FIND happiness, because happiness cannot be found. It can never be simply getting the things you want.
Transcend all that materialistic nonsense. It should not matter where you are or what you have. You can still experience your life and make the most of it.
You seem to feel as though you deserve more than that before you've even earned it. You deserve nothing. By default, none of us deserve anything.

Stop making infantile excuses and start living your life

[Chidongan]

ah, i see, it happens alot with other people, (its the same ol thing where i live ROFL) then later when u just raise ur voice a bit when ur tired they say ur being rude and not respecting them.... i just hate it too >_>




you can't just find hapiness, especially when u got a family like mine, first of all parents dont trust you, when something happens yea i always hear your name >_> i feel so bad for being blamed or everything, godamn!!!!, U can;t get a gf, u can't hang out with friends, u can't talk with someone on the phone, u dont really have friends to hand out with :X, u try ur best not to get into trouble to please ur parents and yet they call u a computer nerd x()X
, they say ur mad when in reality ur just tired, i just hate hearing their voice makes me feel like dying lol, my small sister never spends one day without crying XD too bad for her, and all my mom says is " thats ur dad, get used to him" well who cares, as time passes u feel better and u think up of something to solve previous things so life isn;t that bad anyway :)

So i hate life because u suffer in it, i want to a have a life like other people have, thats all =), oh btw, the top paragraph is also the list of stuff that frustrate me :) ok time to chill

wow. your life sounds very similar to mine.

mind me asking what race/etnicity/religion your affiliated with?

[Bap]

Stop making infantile excuses and start living your life

I <3 Named's straightfowardness :)

[zoldic777]

I don't have a family. So honestly, wah-wah. No where in any of that complaining did I see a reason not to be happy. Happiness is not an EMOTION, no effect of emotions should ever weigh on it. Happiness is not something you acquire with a girlfriend or with having friends to hang out with. These are merely distractions from misery. Happiness is being content with your existence; awakening your senses and feeling the only life you'll ever have. Make the effort.

If you can find a balance in your life, why should anything you just said to me even MATTER? It won't even impact on you.
It seems to be your choice to base what is happiness on your external experiences, rather than your internal. CHANGE THAT. If you cannot attain what qualifies as happiness for other people because of your family- REDEFINE HAPPINESS so that you can.

If you want to continue to whine and complain and excuse the responsibility you have to yourself, then go ahead, but know that it is no one's fault but your own if you are not happy. Not your family's, not your situation's. Just you and your choice to mourn what you don't have rather than to appreciate what you do.

I never said you can FIND happiness, because happiness cannot be found. It can never be simply getting the things you want.
Transcend all that materialistic nonsense. It should not matter where you are or what you have. You can still experience your life and make the most of it.
You seem to feel as though you deserve more than that before you've even earned it. You deserve nothing. By default, none of us deserve anything.

Stop making infantile excuses and start living your life

You dont have a family =O dude ur lucky.... and WTF, ur talking about life as if its something u just live it on ur own and get happiness in life if u make an effort, i dont think u understand other peoples situatations, u must be thinking everyone lives just like others no matter how they are and where they are.... imo that would be wrong.... i'm not whining or complaining, i just said live sucks,( or something 8/) i dont see what seems whining in that, other then that i just wrote a list of things that frustrate me, what now!?!?! ROFL, reading that just made me laugh, i wasn't making excuses, I am living my damned life godamnit, if u meant something else then tell me...

PS: try using simpler english next time >_> I do not perfect it...


@chindongan

I dont know what ethcinity or w/e means =/ srry, i'm not good at english

Me, i think my race is black or something 8/ living in the middle east... religion, i thought you'd figure it out, islam >_>....

Sorry for my bad english....

[Bap]

It doesn't matter if everyone doesn't live the same lifestyle. There will always be something you can be happy about. You -DO- have to reach happiness on your own. It is about the individual. You do seem to be making excuses, you say your unhappiness is because of others -- No. It is because of you that you are unhappy. So you have shitty parents? Life is not relative. Everyone has the same -life- and that is all they have.

You seem to feel as though you deserve more than that before you've even earned it. You deserve nothing. By default, none of us deserve anything.

[narutoIZZAbest]

I used to be in deep depression after thinking too much about my future and my past.

I now -force- myself to block out 'what if' thoughts, creating a more simplified life surrounding the present.-- Even if I still DO have a goal in mind. =P

I don't think that it's necessarily a good thing to do but it helps me.

[Named]

Thank you, Bap. That is all that needed to be said. You are making excuses. Your protest is that you, or other people, can't find happiness because of their situation.
I'm telling you that is nonsense. Happiness isn't one universal feeling all people can either achieve or not achieve. It can be whatever you want to be if you just reach out and grab it. Instead of doing this, you are despairing about how miserable your situation is. That's all I read coming from you- excuses after excuses.
You just need to stop making those excuses and discover your happiness. It's your life, do you think anyone else is the master of it? How can happiness not be attained by you, when YOU are the one who can define happiness!

[zoldic777]

ok =)...if u say so >_>, nah really, i'm ok with that


(reach it and grab my @$$) j/k, ok dude, i'll try to experience so what u call life and search for happiness, if u can't be happy then it doesn't matter, not everyone lives a pleasant life, peace out!!!

[Named]

Give yourself a break from time to time. Pull back from whatever is grieving you to experience your life ;)

Though right now, you are putting up resilience against people who are trying to educate you on how to achieve happiness. And you wonder why you're miserable? You've conditioned yourself to be miserable. Now you're refusing assistance to defeat that misery.

Like I said, you cannot save people from themselves. I wish you luck.

[graff]

WHY?

seriously why, why get depressed and frustrated? take everything with a grain of salt. rather then get upset learn. despite what you pessimistic fucks think theres something to learn from every experience in your life. whether it be the problems you face or the people you meet.

and another thing how old are you...16 17 maybe. face it.... you have lived only a fraction of your life. life is a slow process its an evolution of sorts. you change people change your surroundings change. in 2 yrs life as you know it will be different. it could be harder it could be easier.


and if you could answer me this....why do yall get so upset and depressed...is it cause you think you dont have control? is it cause you feel lost? i mean seriously let me know ive always looked at my life as the way that i mentioned above. as bap said no matter what you think you are in control of your life

[Named]

Oh no, don't delude people into thinking they've lived any particular proportion of their lives.

People fool themselves into believing Death respects youth. Death doesn't respect youth. Death takes us regardless of our age, there is no difference to He. I won't say anything as trite as, "Live each day as if it's your last" That's potentially dangerous advice. Rather I advise people to truly live their life in a way which makes them happy. Don't put anything on hold. Don't EVER wish away the present for some event tomorrow or next week. Cherish every minute, for gods' sake.

[zoldic777]

imo no one has control over their life >_>..... u can't control ur life, its all about destiny :)

[Named]

Your decisions are a factor in destiny. No one has control, because nothing has control. You still have a will to exercise, don't you? So you can be a passive force or you can become one of the influences.

You've probably already made your choice, though, haven't you?

[zoldic777]

what if a dumbell falls on ur thigh and breaks ur leg, or lets say ur running and u fall down thumping ur head on the wall dying at the same moment after bleeding to death, oh cool, ur dead, yay, i was willing to die so i died >_> ugh watttttever!!!

[Named]

What the hell does that have to do with anything. O.O

I think I just broke something reading that lol.

[Chidongan]

@chindongan

I dont know what ethcinity or w/e means =/ srry, i'm not good at english

Me, i think my race is black or something 8/ living in the middle east... religion, i thought you'd figure it out, islam >_>....

Sorry for my bad english....

haha that sucks. man i feel your pain.

[Named]

When people say 'race', they usually mean ethnicity. (Humans are a race, our cultural divisions are ethnicities)

If you're from a certain culture, then you are of that ethnicity.

[Chidongan]

i hate that our ancestors cultures are forced on us. >.>

i absolutely despise it. ditto for religion. i wanna be free to choose my own religion. not have one forced on me.

[graff]

Oh no, don't delude people into thinking they've lived any particular proportion of their lives.

People fool themselves into believing Death respects youth. Death doesn't respect youth. Death takes us regardless of our age, there is no difference to He. I won't say anything as trite as, "Live each day as if it's your last" That's potentially dangerous advice. Rather I advise people to truly live their life in a way which makes them happy. Don't put anything on hold. Don't EVER wish away the present for some event tomorrow or next week. Cherish every minute, for gods' sake.


very true but the fact still remains that an average life (though it varies in different locations) is like 70. 16 yrs is nothing...but i do agree and i dont intend to give a false sense of lets say security.

but thats not my point. these things that are mentioned in this thread are trite. why cant you enjoy what you have. it just seems that peoples scope of life are too small to truly appreciate what they have.

[Bap]

i hate that our ancestors cultures are forced on us. >.>

i absolutely despise it. ditto for religion. i wanna be free to choose my own religion. not have one forced on me.

Are you not? Are you forced to think their thoughts? Obviously not.

"You, oh venerable one, are perhaps indeed a searcher, because,
striving for your goal, there are many things you don't see, which are
directly in front of your eyes."

This quote from Siddhartha could go in any of these threads, really.

[Named]

very true but the fact still remains that an average life (though it varies in different locations) is like 70. 16 yrs is nothing...but i do agree and i dont intend to give a false sense of lets say security.

but thats not my point. these things that are mentioned in this thread are trite. why cant you enjoy what you have. it just seems that peoples scope of life are too small to truly appreciate what they have.

That's fine, I did understand what you meant ^-^ You certainly have a higher chance of living for a long time at a young age. I just wanted to carry on to say people shouldn't assume they veritably have a long life ahead of them, and start leaving things 'til later which they could experience now =)

[uchiha_melody]

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr >___< i hate it when my dad gives my siblings pocket money and always forget me!...OMFG mEEEEE MOI!!!?!? TTwTT

i hate it when my class mates act nice around me but behind my back go on a backstabbing spree....>__> oh and i also hate American people who think Australia is a bad country i mean HELLLLLOOOOO kids/lassies/lads get raped every SINGLE day..and you guys do NOTHING!!!OMG ANTIRAP CONDOM!!!11KJKLFHTRUIY......tch...bleh

oh and OMG i hate when guys say rude things in another language and your all like "AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYE?!?!" TTwTT

damn i hate lots of things...this thread RAwkS!

[Named]

I hate the 'anti-rape' condom.

lol that was a short announcement.

[Yuber]

My life at the moment is good in general, but right now I'm pretty pissed off to have just found out that one of my favorite psychedelics(Salvia Divinorum) is now illegal in my state when prepared as an extract, which is what I use.

In other words, lawmakers are fucking shitheels.

[Chidongan]

well today my mommy (me hates her) gave me a huge lecture on how im not religious, and how i'm gonna burn in hell becuase i dont put religion before everything else. my sister had to do a project in which she presents a case for both for and against that issue. she chose gay marriage and my mom instantly started saying that gay people will burn in hell. even if you support gay people you will burn in hell. if you accept them in society you will burn in hell. and when me and my sis told her that you shouldnt apply religion to everything. i got another huge lecture. >.>

i hate my family.

(referance: i have cardiomyopothy (heart problem) and my doctors said i wouldnt live very long, this was back when i was 8 or 9. and i'v had 3 surgeries since then. 1 major one and 2 for implanting a defribulator/pacemaker device. and now i am set for having another major heart surgery in December. i was really depressed when i found out, then when i finally accepted it, i learned that i also have a thyroid problem. so my life is kind of in a turmoil right now. i hate it. and my mom makes it all better my giving me a lecture on how i'm unreligious. >.>)

oh and my mother also tells me, that i am basically living on borrowed time. i should have died years ago, but god kept me alive. and that i should spend my time praying to him 24/7. that my life is a blessing.

so she is basically saying that god kept me alive just so i could spend the rest of my life thanking him for giving me a life?

thats redundant, to me thats the supidest thing i've ever heard.

i think people are blowing this whole religion thing out of porportion. sure i think there is a god. but we shouldnt spend all our time thanking him. we should be grateful he's making some of our lives easier. he gives some people good jobs, and nice family's.

but sometimes i also question wether there really is a god or not. even though some people's lives may be good. alot of other people are suffering. they have huge financial problems. or health problems. and it's extremely hard to live with. but it is very rare that you see a person get out of those situations. and when they do, people always say that it was god's work. well if god can work miracles so much, why doesnt he help all the other people out there who need his help?

kk i'm done ranting....for now.

[superkhanh0]

poor u lil guy :D cheer up
i hate cold weather :D

[Nova]

What frustrates me? My ISP. It has been 1 1/2 years and I still cannot play one game of Halo 2 on Live without lag......Honestly, what do I pay them for?

What depresses me? The fact that I'm so dense that I do not know when the girl I like, likes me and it all slips through my fingers....

And I agree with Named's whole happiness "rant". I think happiness is what you think it is. You can walk outside, breath the fresh air and watch the sun come up and think,"A new day.....I'm content with my life." Or you can say,"I want a new pair of shoes." Now which lasts longer? The equilibrium with nature and your contentment with just being alive; or a new pair of shoes that would make you "happy"?

Sorry if that wasn't the message you were trying to get across, Named. But that's what I took away from it.

[Named]

oh and my mother also tells me, that i am basically living on borrowed time. i should have died years ago, but god kept me alive. and that i should spend my time praying to him 24/7. that my life is a blessing.
Then i'd suggest you raise one point to your mother. If God is responsible for you surviving against the odds, isn't he responsible you have something to survive against? It's his fault you have your medical issues! You're supposed to be grateful to him for that?

[Yuber]

Rant.

Is there any way you could get out of your parents' house any time soon? Personally if I were in your situation I would try and get the fuck out as soon as possible. I would also wait to challenge their beliefs after I moved out. Good luck and I hope your heart condition gets better.

[Azure Wrath]

well today my mommy (me hates her) gave me a huge lecture on how im not religious, and how i'm gonna burn in hell becuase i dont put religion before everything else. my sister had to do a project in which she presents a case for both for and against that issue. she chose gay marriage and my mom instantly started saying that gay people will burn in hell. even if you support gay people you will burn in hell. if you accept them in society you will burn in hell. and when me and my sis told her that you shouldnt apply religion to everything. i got another huge lecture. >.>

i hate my family.

(referance: i have cardiomyopothy (heart problem) and my doctors said i wouldnt live very long, this was back when i was 8 or 9. and i'v had 3 surgeries since then. 1 major one and 2 for implanting a defribulator/pacemaker device. and now i am set for having another major heart surgery in December. i was really depressed when i found out, then when i finally accepted it, i learned that i also have a thyroid problem. so my life is kind of in a turmoil right now. i hate it. and my mom makes it all better my giving me a lecture on how i'm unreligious. >.>)

oh and my mother also tells me, that i am basically living on borrowed time. i should have died years ago, but god kept me alive. and that i should spend my time praying to him 24/7. that my life is a blessing.

so she is basically saying that god kept me alive just so i could spend the rest of my life thanking him for giving me a life?

thats redundant, to me thats the supidest thing i've ever heard.

i think people are blowing this whole religion thing out of porportion. sure i think there is a god. but we shouldnt spend all our time thanking him. we should be grateful he's making some of our lives easier. he gives some people good jobs, and nice family's.

but sometimes i also question wether there really is a god or not. even though some people's lives may be good. alot of other people are suffering. they have huge financial problems. or health problems. and it's extremely hard to live with. but it is very rare that you see a person get out of those situations. and when they do, people always say that it was god's work. well if god can work miracles so much, why doesnt he help all the other people out there who need his help?

kk i'm done ranting....for now.

shame dude, that really sounds shit.
like yuber said, i'd try to get outta there ASAP!

you can be thankful for living, but there is no point in living, knowing that you owe 'the apparently almighty power' a huge debt. What god would hold a debt like that? Life should be givin to you as a gift, not a loan!

And i hope the heart probs go better dude, if i was a prayin man, i would.. instead, i'll engineer you a cure! Holding thumbs for you man, hope things go better!

[Chidongan]

Then i'd suggest you raise one point to your mother. If God is responsible for you surviving against the odds, isn't he responsible you have something to survive against? It's his fault you have your medical issues! You're supposed to be grateful to him for that?

love too. but cant. i still depend on her financially, i'm not going to jeperdize that. sure i'd love to move out, but i cant survive on my own yet. i gotta milk her for all she's worth. afterwards though i'll send her a very detailed letter. ^^

Is there any way you could get out of your parents' house any time soon? Personally if I were in your situation I would try and get the fuck out as soon as possible. I would also wait to challenge their beliefs after I moved out. Good luck and I hope your heart condition gets better.

well i just started college. and i want to move out right now. but as i've stated above, i cant handle it yet. and yes, i will challenge her, just after i move out. ^^

shame dude, that really sounds shit.
like yuber said, i'd try to get outta there ASAP!

you can be thankful for living, but there is no point in living, knowing that you owe 'the apparently almighty power' a huge debt. What god would hold a debt like that? Life should be givin to you as a gift, not a loan!

And i hope the heart probs go better dude, if i was a prayin man, i would.. instead, i'll engineer you a cure! Holding thumbs for you man, hope things go better!

haha thanks. ^^
thats exactly how i feel. why would god give me such a 'wonderful' gift and tell me that it's just a loan and i have to pay him back by spending the rest of my day's worshiping him. >.>

trust me though i want to move out real bad, prolly since sophmore year. but i gotta be smart. if i move our right now. i'll have to get a job to support myself, and even that wont be enough and i'll have to drop out of school. then there goes my future. >.>

[Nick]

When I get depressed I listen to music... it helps...like right now...

Sweet little bumble bee,
I know what you want with me,
Do-de-do-do da da!
Do-de-do-do da da!

[Chidongan]

yea, sometimes music helps me get my cool back. ^^
or just talkin' to someone.
it's all psychological though.

i'm thinking of getting a journal. and just writing in it everyday.

but thats too big of a comitment. ^^

[Nick]

you don't have to write every day, but the good news is that later on you can come back and try to analyse your feelings and what you were thinking at the time and it helps you move forward... even a little bit

[Chidongan]

yeah i guess. i have a friend who keeps a journal, and she lemme read one of her entries from back in 10th grade and she was psychotic. she wanted to kill her mom (well i do too but thats not the creepy part) she wrote out how she was gonna do it and all the other good stuff. i started laughing just readin it. ^^


on topic:

life frustrates me. ^^

[Nick]

it was an outlet.... our brains are similiar to processors. There is input and output, sometime things need to come out and it's safe to come out on paper rather than actions...

are you having weird dreams?

[Chidongan]

yea, sometimes. the dreams i actually remember are pretty weird. >.>

i guess it's just my minds way of telling me things.

[Nick]

Freud theorized that dreams were how we confronted repressed feelings... I have no idea what you're dreaming about but maybe you good use that little tidbit to self analyze.

[Chidongan]

yeah, i had a dream this morning/night, it was kinda weird. but i think it was trying to tell me something.

we should move this discussion to the spam zone. ^^

[EDIT]

well today i've been feelin' like shit all day. it was my friends birthday on thursday so i took him out to watch a movie and shit (borat!!) today (saturday), then afterwards we hit the food court.

and it just so happened the girl i'm currently infatuated with worked in the macy's near there. so i thought i'd go say hi. and i have no idea, what the f*** happened, i just went over and said hi, and before i knew it the conversation was over. i didnt remember any of it. and i had a stomach ache afterwards. then i had a long conversation with my friend, that if i die during my 'upcomming' surgery that i wouldn't even mind.

i dont have anyone in this current world to 'love' or just to talk to, with the exception of my friend. and i dont think it would effect society at all if i just....disappeared. >.>

it really hurts if you think about it.

[Bap]

As a whole, your death would probably not have affect on the world. Nor would mine or anyone else's. So what? Why do you need more people to love or talk to besides your friend? Is he/she not enough?

Other people will not bring you happiness. It is all you. I really do lose much respect for people who say they hate life.
Life is all you have. Why would you want to give that up? Because you think life is about suffering? Life isn't about anything, really.
I cannot tell you what will make you happy, that is for you to figure out. But don't try looking in what doesn't make you happy. I do suggest you do some thinking about it. I also recommend you read Siddhartha by Herman Hesse, just because it helped me make some realizations, even though I do not completely agree with everything there.

[Flyin]

I read the kama sutra, that made me happy....and her happy to. Just find something that relaxes you, for me, it's hitting on random women. It's just fun! ;)

[Chidongan]

As a whole, your death would probably not have affect on the world. Nor would mine or anyone else's. So what? Why do you need more people to love or talk to besides your friend? Is he/she not enough?

Other people will not bring you happiness. It is all you. I really do lose much respect for people who say they hate life.
Life is all you have. Why would you want to give that up? Because you think life is about suffering? Life isn't about anything, really.
I cannot tell you what will make you happy, that is for you to figure out. But don't try looking in what doesn't make you happy. I do suggest you do some thinking about it. I also recommend you read Siddhartha by Herman Hesse, just because it helped me make some realizations, even though I do not completely agree with everything there.

well can you really be happy, even if your alone? sometimes you do need people to accept you, to aknowledge your existance. i only have one friend that does that. and now all i need is my 'ideal' women, which i will never find.

even with such a good friend. i still feen incomplete.

[Named]

I'm always happy and I am for the most part always alone ;) Why would I want to base my happiness on having a particular possession or being in certain company? Those things can be taken away. They can be lost. They might not ever be gained. Seems silly to found my happiness on such instability.

[Bap]

I am a believer in that, yes, you can be happy when you are alone. I don't think you -need- friends or family to be happy. Why do you need your existence to be acknowledged? What would that gain you? If you are an illusion, you can still love life nonetheless.

[JoshAries]

I absolutely HATE repeating myself. Especially if I said something in its most simple form... I can understand if its a complex issue or something... but saying the same thing more than three times in a row to the same person or group of people just pisses me off. Its like an irrational anger of mine. Of course I havent let it get out of hand but you never know.

[Chidongan]

I am a believer in that, yes, you can be happy when you are alone. I don't think you -need- friends or family to be happy. Why do you need your existence to be acknowledged? What would that gain you? If you are an illusion, you can still love life nonetheless.

that does make sense, you can love life even if you are an illusion. but will you affect the world, even if just a little? that's what gets me. i love my life right now, and however much i am irritated by it, i will always love my life. but what if my life is meaningless? then it doesn't matter what i do here, becuase when i die, no one's gonna remember me.

i know i'm repeating myself, but that's just how i feel. and my sentances are starting to make less and less snese with each passing post. >.>

btw Bap, where can i find that book you mentioned? Local library?

[Bap]

You can actually read it here: http://www.online-literature.com/hesse/siddhartha/

And if your life really is meaningless, than just enjoy what you have. Enjoy being able to think, to dream, to be creative, to live. This might be a bad analogy, but when you play video games, does it have significant meaning? No, but it is still fun :P

[Chidongan]

You can actually read it here: http://www.online-literature.com/hesse/siddhartha/

And if your life really is meaningless, than just enjoy what you have. Enjoy being able to think, to dream, to be creative, to live. This might be a bad analogy, but when you play video games, does it have significant meaning? No, but it is still fun :P

lol that actually makes sense.

btw i dled the book off of some site. i'll try to read it when i get the chance. ^^

[Katzyn]

Ignore this thread.

[Chidongan]

I'm super depressed right now.

How do you guys deal with depression? I need a pick-me-up.

Pick me up: I <3 You. ^^

http://forum.narutochaos.com/showthread.php?t=8170

[Katzyn]

F*ck. They should have a lock or delete button.

[Chidongan]

meh. regina777'll probably merge it later.

so what happened?

[spacecadet319]

u need some mushrooms

[i_feel_tiredsleepy]

That seemed a bit insensitive.

Um, I don't know you, but I hope you feel better; the world can always benefit from more happiness.

[Narusukashi]

Listen to some music. Just try and keep yourself busy. Don't lie in bed for however long you do as that will make it worse. Just try not to think about what ever is making you depressed and think happy things. What I usually do is just close my mind and breathe calmly and clear my mind, kinda like a meditative state. I wouldn't say I'm depressed, but this usually helps me whenever I'm stressed out from school work or some other stuff that got on my nerves that day.

[animeking]

Well kat,I hope you feel better soon,and don't worry about regina is just gonna merge the threads anyways.

[Katzyn]

Okay, you guys. I appreciate the concern, but really. This topic is obsolete and I really don't need any suggestions that I take drugs, thank you..

[steve]

go for a jog. Take a shower after. Watch something funny on tv.
in that order.
And make sure when you go for a jog, you jog until you actually can't anymore, thats really important.

[tsunade ^_^]

Yah! So that you gan get dome oxygen into ur brain! Katz I really hope you sort everything thats bothering you out! Dont hesitate to mail if you feel the need to chat!

[Techno Dude]

Uh, cut-myself?

[spacecadet319]

i hate the fact that depression has become a clinical term nowadays.

Fix a chemical imbalance with happy pills and poison ur body in the process... fucking nonsense.

[Azure Wrath]

i think depression can be sorted out by the person, they dont need medicene... even though they say its a chemical imbalance, i believe yor mind can overcome it

katz, we're all here for you, k? if you need someone to talk to, all of NC is here for you

[bonkers]

mmm.... pills always help, like he (you) said... They're just great !!!

I love being depressed.... reminds me that I’m only human.

So f*** it, and enjoy being depressed. Whether it’s girl problems, or just the fact that you're bored out of your skull, enjoy it! Cause it's the only thing that really keeps you going in the end.

Lol, it’s like this moral issue that you have some time, right? It’s like that question, Why is there something and not nothing? And really, in the end the question is the answer. Because there can’t be nothing if the question exists, right!

So, why do we live??? That’s a bloody good question, and I intend to find out!

So why do we get depressed … Who cares, let’s just enjoy it while we can!

And who says dreams are more painful than not having them? Bull shit, I say, dream those dreams, and who cares if you can’t live out your dreams.

This one dude said (PJE ???): “To return to your dreams will involve pain, because life is pain and joy. “ and I agree 100%

I suppose that I should now propose an alternative … A solution to not being depressed … Something I do when I am depressed, well, there’s no way in hell I will tell you what to do! You have to figure this one out for yourself buddy!

Being depressed is not all that bad, cause one has to experience all life has to offer, otherwise one never truly lived, right?

It’s like the utilitarianism theorem, right? The greatest happiness for the greatest ammount. And remember to take qualitive as well as quantative pleasures into account. And don’t think that it’s unobtainable… that’s just rubbish! And remember, this is no God like doctrine. This is common knowledge! No rules apply here.

Take Kant for instance, he talks about “good will in itself”, and none of this hypothetical shit. One must do good in itself, almost self sacrifice one self, but that’s just plain stupid, so just do the darn right thing. Things must be done from duty, not inclination. And remember, duty is done from/with volition, and not with concerns to an end! This duty you do must be a moral maxim, and this maxim is one that you can wish to be a universal law. And never be prudent, that’s just not nice… Life is not all about ME, and what I get out of it, but it is also what I can contribute. Contribute to myself, YES, and to people around me!

So, remember Heidegger’s words, and never let your mind accept the now and here, otherwise you endanger yourself, and deliver yourself to the worst kind of unhappiness.

Does this make any sense ? I hope not, because I was bored, a.k.a depressed, lol

[NMK]

Doesn't it work to delete a thread if you delete your first post? Or maybe it doesn't work now that people have posted here?

Anyways, been there done that, not a happy situation. Hope you get better soon.

[Flyin]

Monty Python - Always look on the bright side of life.

Great song! Listen to that, it has many words of wisdom for depression. And as for all those with depression, you're the gutterslime that litters this nation with your whiney instability, brought on by your own inability to focus on problems, instead turning to ignorant self degredation!

[Katzyn]

Bonkers, it seem like you need to lay off the pills yourself, my friend....;D

No, there's not even a "delete post" button anymore. o_o

[bonkers]

Bonkers, it seem like you need to lay off the pills yourself, my friend....;D

No, there's not even a "delete post" button anymore. o_o

lol, I will never do drugs of that sort... I was just kidding, couldn't you tell? I believe these "pills" screw around with your humanity and who you truly are, so I will never indulge in such stupidity...

Monty Python - Always look on the bright side of life.

Great song! Listen to that, it has many words of wisdom for depression. And as for all those with depression, you're the gutterslime that litters this nation with your whiney instability, brought on by your own inability to focus on problems, instead turning to ignorant self degredation!


That's what I said, sorta...

[Azure Wrath]

the song actualyl goes "always look o nthe bright side of death'
or at least, in monty python and the life of brian... lolz

[NMK]

Bonkers, it seem like you need to lay off the pills yourself, my friend....;D

No, there's not even a "delete post" button anymore. o_o


Yes there is :), Press edit there you can find the delete function :)

[Katzyn]

It seems you can't delete the first post.

Regine, would you be so kind as to delete this thread, please?

[NMK]

Just PM her? -_-

3 pages in an unwanted thread, nice ^^

[bonkers]

But why, i'm having sooo much fun talking crap in this one !
Maybe I'll delete it tomorrow ^_^

[tsunade ^_^]

Ai! Js weer in een van jou funny mood ne ^_^

[zoldic777]

No you ~la~lA~laa~

die with me

Nu nh na

Dun duh da

Let me give u a tip here sunny boy *hicur*
Act as retarded as u can.

[DJ Jaime]

i hate... hinata...
i hate... being in a situation... where you are on the outside, looking in. When you are on the doorstep of someones heart, knocking, to be let in. Then they open the door, agknowledge that you are there, but not letting you in. You can see how warm and cozy it is inside and you are inches away fom it... but you cant get it... you wonder what to do. Do you stay there, hoping that maybe you will be let in sometime in the future, or do you walk away, only for them to open the door for you, once you have walked
i also hate peas.
I really know what you mean and it sucks... It's kinda like what I'm going through right now.. What I'm going to do is one last desperate thing and then I'm just gonna walk away for good.

[Chidongan]

mmm.... pills always help, like he (you) said... They're just great !!!

I love being depressed.... reminds me that I’m only human.

So f*** it, and enjoy being depressed. Whether it’s girl problems, or just the fact that you're bored out of your skull, enjoy it! Cause it's the only thing that really keeps you going in the end.

Strangely enough, thats how I feel. ^^

[Flyin]

the song actualyl goes "always look o nthe bright side of death'
or at least, in monty python and the life of brian... lolz

Always look on the bright side of death.

*Whistle* Doodo, doo doo doodoo doo doo*

Just before you draw your terminal breath.

*Whistle* Doodo, doo doo doodoo doo doo*

Life's a piece of shit, when you look at it, life's a laugh and that's no joke it's true. You'll see it's all a show, keep 'em laughing as you go, just remember that the last joke is on you.

[narutoIZZAbest]

My home is a cage, my family is a cage.

My independence is being tread upon, my self worth, my freedom.

My friend is not much of a friend, she cannot stick out for me, she can't even sit there and listen to me. She can't comfort me.

[steve]

... you should start a blog.

[Lukasz]

two words for you izza

move out

[narutoIZZAbest]

hahah, blogs are not for me, I tried before. Usually when I'm depressed I do not write it them. Most of the time when I do is when I'm feeling a bit pensive.

XD Can't move out, I'm a minor. Plus I've also noticed in that in my family they continue to control you after you move out. My mom is 40-something still listening to all the horrible crap my grandma gives her. Then again my mom is mentally ill. They don't know how to make it any better. They constantly remind her that she is worthless.

[that's why i'll make sure that when i AM able to, they won't know and will not hear from me again.]

[eyeshadowlady]

I broke a nail ;_;

[Flyin]

I moved out right before I turned 17. It's not impossible to do, but I had to work my ass off all the time to be able to pay rent and make it to school enough not to get expelled. Good thing is people are very helpful when they know your situation. Honestly, I couldn't stand it at home, it seems bad, but I really don't like my family much. I love them, just don't like them at all.

I got over my depression, now I'm an alcoholic!

[eyeshadowlady]

I moved out right before I turned 17. It's not impossible to do, but I had to work my ass off all the time to be able to pay rent and make it to school enough not to get expelled. Good thing is people are very helpful when they know your situation. Honestly, I couldn't stand it at home, it seems bad, but I really don't like my family much. I love them, just don't like them at all.

I got over my depression, now I'm an alcoholic!

:( you make my broken nail seem like such a lame problem in comparison.

But seriously, I have a lot of respect for people that stop moping about their problems and get off their asses and do something about it. Sounds like you worked your ass off to get where you are, so that you could have a chance to truly enjoy life.

I have had a lot of serious problems myself (:o bigger than broken nails?) but I don't like to bitch about them a lot. I love my family, I've found they're about the only people I can trust, and i don't even trust them that much, but they are about all I have anymore and they kept me alive. Are you really an alcoholic now? Don't turn to alcohol to prevent/heal your depression :( I've done it before and nearly fell down that path. Frankly I was happier just being depressed. lol.

you seem way cool flyin (cool points=10)

[Flyin]

:( you make my broken nail seem like such a lame problem in comparison.

But seriously, I have a lot of respect for people that stop moping about their problems and get off their asses and do something about it. Sounds like you worked your ass off to get where you are, so that you could have a chance to truly enjoy life.

I have had a lot of serious problems myself (:o bigger than broken nails?) but I don't like to bitch about them a lot. I love my family, I've found they're about the only people I can trust, and i don't even trust them that much, but they are about all I have anymore and they kept me alive. Are you really an alcoholic now? Don't turn to alcohol to prevent/heal your depression :( I've done it before and nearly fell down that path. Frankly I was happier just being depressed. lol.

you seem way cool flyin (cool points=10)


You may think I'm cool, but I'm not. I did work my ass off daily. I sacraficed a lot of sleep to do it, but I think it made my life better. Keeping busy working all night, and school all day kept me out of a lot of trouble and away from all the stupid people that make life miserible. Alcoholism, sadly is an addiction of mine, not really to avoid depression, but rather to, in a sense, free myself from my restrictions. I'm an uptight asshole in reality, but a few shots of whiskey and I'm a pretty decent guy. Besides that, I'm not the type to go get shit-faced all the time. I drink constantly, but never drunk.

Having family there is a great thing, and it would've been different for me if I had that. Never lose the advantage of a close family, it's terrible. When people ask how my brother is doing I can't answer, I don't see him for months at a time. It's bad, seriously, even when you hate your family for what they did, remind yourself you love them.

[narutoIZZAbest]

Hey just wondering-- how did you get out so early though?
Emancipation?

I remember I was talking to Masah [an admin], and he told me that he had to save up a lot of money just for the part of getting his family into court.

Anyways, I do not write in blogs... but I have found another method of therapy. I'm drawing manga.

[maarenees]

well here are my problems

a few years ago i was on a camp with school and i wasnt paying attention and i was at a crossover to get on the other side of the train track but i was standing next to the blocking pole and i was just on the track amd my bicycle got hit and i flew away a couple off metres away i survived it with just a nruise but i still have pain in my shin sometimes i was seriously depressed for 2 years then it apaered that there was light at the end i met a girl and got a relationship with her then after a year and a half i ripped a muscle in my shoulder since then if been pissed off at everything every day with almost everything impossible to do couldnt do karate, playing guitar impossible, and work was hard then 6 months later my girl friend broke up when we had 2 years and now she has a new boyfriend and it was 2 weeks ago that she became his girlfriend now im back in depresion and i may have to get surgery for my shoulder muscle but that means stopping karate and i would hate to stop because it makes me happy.

so that are my problems and i wouldnt mind if you guys give your opinion about it cause i posted it al so you guys can help if you know a way how to

[Dream Catcher]

I hate the US education system... teacher really need to learn how to teach

besides that, life is great :D

[Lolo]

sigh....u know nothing about"teacher rly dunno how 2 teach"
come 2 asia,u ll know

[Henagocklfeych]

I have got a real depression, for about 3 Years and it ain't fun, you think about suicide and shit and there is no sense in life...! But who cares, what is most important: Damn George Bush!

[KageNaruto]

Being an escapist sends you to magical worlds where your dopamine releases skyrocket and you forget about the trouble's of life.

Though through equivalent exchange, this forces me to go through states of depression every now and then, but usually they are easy to handle. I was depressed for half a year a long time ago though, that wasn't fun, I flunked like 3 classes at school.

Though if I lived in Hawaii where I could skimboard by day and escape by night deprression would probably strike less. And if I had cable it would be easier to go through my depression periods >.<

[Arty]

Being creative , open minded and easily affected by even the slightest thing such as an Anime or Manga serious is dope.

Dopamine , Endorfin? Who cares - Knowing is the last thing to make you happy.

My problem?

Well , i am easily affected by simple things. Inferiority complex led to constant insuring and now obsession for analyzing my surroundings and situation in order to be prepared for whatever might come. My "escape" were books/manga/anime/movies were the actual story could not be affected by me or any factor. A chance to stop thinking

I wrote countless essay's on the feeling. Not caring about anything else but what you cannot alter is simply the greatest feeling ever. Just as everything else its an obsession , You need to know what happens next and you accept it without any objections. The more time you spend the more involved you get , every second you are forced to accept what happens and after a while you stop worrying as it is not up to you anymore. Your on the outside , looking in. Its not that you "stop caring" its more you being released from responsibility of choosing and the effects of choices and at that point you are free from your own worries.

The more the story affects you and the more involved you are the easier it is to accept it. You start living your life as thoughts within the story in your own reality.

In the end you start living your life as slave to the story.

Everyone who's felt this knows how horrible it is to be separated from that life.

And there you have my problem.

[KageNaruto]

Uh, yeah, you explained that in depth really really well Arty. It's the same thing with me. I'm sitting at my computer reading fanfiction right now >.> (I found another really good one!)

[Katzyn]

I'm really...depressed/frustrated right now.

I can't stand my brother's girlfriend, and I haven't even met the bitch face-to-face. -_- All I know about her is she's 22 years old, acts younger and FAR more needier than me, gets drunk (and possibly high) on a regular basis, has two kids from a previous marriage, and constantly worries and upsets my brother.

I wish I could just bitch her out, but...I want her to start it, so I can be justified in my parents' eyes. ;D

Other things are upsetting me today, too, but they'll all disappear tomorrow, except school stress.

[Dream Catcher]

Well if your parents approve of a girl that drinks and gets high and has two kids and makes ur bro feel bad then yea....

[Seraphiel]

I approve of you having sex with my wife.


The only thing that frustrates me is that I'm bored,and my ex dating my best friend.

[Katzyn]

Well if your parents approve of a girl that drinks and gets high and has two kids and makes ur bro feel bad then yea....

They don't approve of her, but they don't want me starting shit, either.

[MiMi_Chan]

Well she does sound like a very frustrating person to say the least though maybe you should talk to your brother before anything. It's his choice to date her so maybe try and get some info from him(or knock some of your own into his head lol ;))

[tsunade ^_^]

I think this is the first time im going to post in this thread. So heres me 2cents. Didnt smaak reading all the posts. But went through some of it. all thats a bit worrying to me is, why are you all so unhappy? Or most of ya'll? Hope that wasnt rude, but i would just like to know.

Yes i have a sucky life and even crappier friends but im not going to let that get the best of me. Im not going to lie, I was heavily depressed last year but that was because I lost a friend. Being depressed is stressfull and physically draining. As cliched as this may sound, dont worry be happy!

[Azure Wrath]

I'm really...depressed/frustrated right now.

I can't stand my brother's girlfriend, and I haven't even met the bitch face-to-face. -_- All I know about her is she's 22 years old, acts younger and FAR more needier than me, gets drunk (and possibly high) on a regular basis, has two kids from a previous marriage, and constantly worries and upsets my brother.

I wish I could just bitch her out, but...I want her to start it, so I can be justified in my parents' eyes. ;D

Other things are upsetting me today, too, but they'll all disappear tomorrow, except school stress.

That is pretty bad... may i ask you what your brother sees in her? Coz, i mean, there must be SOMETHING there... and if she does upset him, maybe you should talk to him about her. Not try and convince him out of it, but just maybe help him see the wood for the trees, you know? forcing him to drop her wont work, but talking to him in a way that will open u his eyes could very well do that.

So be a good sis and be suportive of your brother. Fighting his girlfriend will create animosity around the house and your bro will not be impressed, it will not do him good. Instead, talk it out with him, that's my bet.

[estranged]

as i grow older, i find myself liking less and less people.

[Karin<3]

People that are depressed for more then 1, 2 days should be decapatated, my personal opinion ofc.

[Katzyn]

I suppose I should have been decapitated, then.

Azure, I talked to my brother, told him my concerns, and he responded much more maturely than I would have thought. However...even given my concerns, he's asked he to marry him, and she accepted.

HE'S KNOWN HER FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR. He's been in Iraq for the last 15 months. WTF? *me beats brother with a thick stick*

Ah, well. As long as he doesn't bring her here any time soon, it'll all be fine. It's his life, I guess.

I just hope she makes him really happy.

[spacecadet319]

People that are depressed for more then 1, 2 days should be decapatated, my personal opinion ofc.


I'm sorry, not everyone has happy lives... Im pretty sure youre completely oblivious to the many problems in the world. Then again, ignorance is bliss... 3 days? ... did you drop ur ice cream cone on the ground and had to cry about it until your mommy stuffed ur face with something else? Please be more considerate of others. Not everyone is the same mentally.

[Karin<3]

People that are depressed for more then 1, 2 days should be decapatated, my personal opinion ofc.


I'm sorry, not everyone has happy lives... Im pretty sure youre completely oblivious to the many problems in the world. Then again, ignorance is bliss... 3 days? ... did you drop ur ice cream cone on the ground and had to cry about it until your mommy stuffed ur face with something else? Please be more considerate of others. Not everyone is the same mentally.

My life isnt actualy that happy but im not gonna talk about social stuff on the internetz. If life gets u down it can just get better. And why the f would someone whine and moan about theyre depression on the internet to total strangers, this is a place to have fun and relax.

[papfles]

People that are depressed for more then 1, 2 days should be decapatated, my personal opinion ofc.



This does not even dignify an answer...

[spacecadet319]

im aware that life is just a bunch of moments and memories and im not saying life particulary gets me down. Of course I have my moments where i feel like shit and there are fun and happy times as well. My personal belief is to live life in the present moment, it helps me block out all the negatives thoughts and memories that have occured in my life. I think if it already happened... theres no point in thinking about it (example, someone says some idiotic comment to ur face and ur response is not what u may have wanted to say... this leads to consequence... and then later on u will replay many scenarios involving this incident in ur mind... I find this pointless and try to keep a clear head all the time. This keeps my seratonin levels stable if u wanna get scientific. I also excersize everyday and try to move around as much as possible. This works wonders for me mentally.)

However, ur little comment I found distasteful, I excused it as an attempt at a poor joke... this is the internet after all so I have no idea wat ure thinking.

As for ur take on this thread... I think its a good idea to talk about ur problems. Some people dont have the kind of help in life to deal with watever may be troubling them so they can turn to threads like these and vent, and possibly get support. If u dont like this thread, just dont read it plain and simple, its a little insenstive on ur part if u bash the people and their problems.

[Karin<3]

Meh i jsut typed that comment in to piss of emos. Im not saying anyone here of you is emo but there might be a few in this thread

[papfles]

Meh i jsut typed that comment in to piss of emos.

Could be considered baiting...

[Katzyn]

And why the f would someone whine and moan about theyre depression on the internet to total strangers, this is a place to have fun and relax.

Some people, such as myself, do not have people to talk to outside of the internet, and that is how I vent when I am upset. If I have no one IRL, and I'm not supposed to online (*rolls eyes*), where else do I vent? If I were to keep it inside, I would explode. =o

The internet is not just for fun; it's for support, too, in case someone needs support. Granted, an anime forum isn't the first place you'd look to to find support, but we're all a family here, and we should each be able to talk about what is bothing us.

[Karin<3]

Some people, such as myself, do not have people to talk to outside of the internet, and that is how I vent when I am upset. If I have no one IRL, and I'm not supposed to online (*rolls eyes*), where else do I vent? If I were to keep it inside, I would explode. =o

The internet is not just for fun; it's for support, too, in case someone needs support. Granted, an anime forum isn't the first place you'd look to to find support, but we're all a family here, and we should each be able to talk about what is bothing us.

I dont know cant u make friends in RL and get theyre support ? I unno go to a pub drink and meet a few people. With dicks like me on the internet its not the best place for support lol.

[Itachi4ever]

Some people, such as myself, do not have people to talk to outside of the internet, and that is how I vent when I am upset. If I have no one IRL, and I'm not supposed to online (*rolls eyes*), where else do I vent? If I were to keep it inside, I would explode. =o

The internet is not just for fun; it's for support, too, in case someone needs support. Granted, an anime forum isn't the first place you'd look to to find support, but we're all a family here, and we should each be able to talk about what is bothing us.

then you should go out into the real world and make friends. I did and I admit that I had a hard time with it ,but now the people who I can talk to at school are the same as the people on this board. But your right though about 1 thing. People on this forum really do help each other, that's why I love going on the computer because I can talk to others who aren't from where I live.

[Karin<3]

then you should go out into the real world and make friends. I did and I admit that I had a hard time with it ,but now the people who I can talk to at school are the same as the people on this board. But your right though about 1 thing. People on this forum really do help each other, that's why I love going on the computer because I can talk to others who aren't from where I live.

i agree and to chill and relax with them

[Itachi4ever]

and besides Katzyn you won't know anyone unless you try. (Hope that made some sense?) Anyway people aren't going to come up and talk to you just like that, your gonna have to man up and go talk to them. Besides you might find alot of people who are like you or even better.....

[Karin<3]

Yeah go and grab a few beers with em, go to the arcade etc. Not hard to socialize.

[papfles]

And most of the times those people are not the people you just immediately trust to tell them all of your problems.

And sometimes it's easier to tell strangers something (especially on the internet, where they won't know / identify you) because just because they are strangers. Most people on the internet offer friendly advice, so why not take advantage of those channels if they actually do help?

I can understand anyone wanting to do so, although maybe Katzyn's example is a bit extreme though (no offense)

[Thistle]

The internet is not just for fun; it's for support, too, in case someone needs support. Granted, an anime forum isn't the first place you'd look to to find support, but we're all a family here, and we should each be able to talk about what is bothing us.

I basically agree, it's just that you shouldn't talk about it in public. There will always be someone who will mock your feelings. Don't present yourself as vulnerable on the net. Select a few trustworthy internet friends and talk to them on MSN...if you got those, that is.

[Karin<3]

I basically agree, it's just that you shouldn't talk about it in public. There will always be someone who will mock your feelings. Don't present yourself as vulnerable on the net. Select a few trustworthy internet friends and talk to them on MSN...if you got those, that is.

*big pedo grin*

[Katzyn]

I basically agree, it's just that you shouldn't talk about it in public. There will always be someone who will mock your feelings. Don't present yourself as vulnerable on the net. Select a few trustworthy internet friends and talk to them on MSN...if you got those, that is.

And I should care that people will mock me? If I present my issues online, I'm not only not concerned whether people will care, but I am also showing that I am human, and full of insecurities, which is who and what I am. Why should I hide that because "people will mock"? And if people decide to mock me, big deal, it's the internet. I like the fact that I can say anything online, and not have anyone care; for me, when I spill my toubles out on the internet, it's just getting them off my chest, regardless of whether or not people care/offer advise/comfort, ect.

I am vulnerable, that's just who I am. And I will be who I am online, regardless of what people think.

Also, if I -could- go to a bar and drink, I would. But I'm under-age. ;_;(damn 21-years-old drinking limit)

[Nick]

you can always be worse off then you are now...you could have some kind of genital cancer or worse...no internet connection!

[Karin<3]

And I should care that people will mock me? If I present my issues online, I'm not only not concerned whether people will care, but I am also showing that I am human, and full of insecurities, which is who and what I am. Why should I hide that because "people will mock"? And if people decide to mock me, big deal, it's the internet. I like the fact that I can say anything online, and not have anyone care; for me, when I spill my toubles out on the internet, it's just getting them off my chest, regardless of whether or not people care/offer advise/comfort, ect.

I am vulnerable, that's just who I am. And I will be who I am online, regardless of what people think.

Also, if I -could- go to a bar and drink, I would. But I'm under-age. ;_;(damn 21-years-old drinking limit)


here you can drink at like 12...

[Seraphiel]

here you can drink at like 12...

lies its 18.

And being emo on the net is fun.....NOT

[Thistle]

I am vulnerable, that's just who I am. And I will be who I am online, regardless of what people think.

If you don't care about what people say on the net then you are neither vulnerable nor do you want anyone to listen to you. Or do you? I am not that vulnerable, yet i simply don't give anyone much to talk about. I prefer talking to those i trust, be it face to face or on the net (i don't differentiate much there). And everyone needs someone to care for him/her. But this way you don't risk disappointment or abuse of trust, it's only that you got no one to comfort you, and please spare me/us having to read about how lonely you are then.

[Itachi4ever]

And I should care that people will mock me? If I present my issues online, I'm not only not concerned whether people will care, but I am also showing that I am human, and full of insecurities, which is who and what I am. Why should I hide that because "people will mock"? And if people decide to mock me, big deal, it's the internet. I like the fact that I can say anything online, and not have anyone care; for me, when I spill my toubles out on the internet, it's just getting them off my chest, regardless of whether or not people care/offer advise/comfort, ect.

I am vulnerable, that's just who I am. And I will be who I am online, regardless of what people think.

Also, if I -could- go to a bar and drink, I would. But I'm under-age. ;_;(damn 21-years-old drinking limit)


If people mock you then that's on them. What you need to do is find others not only online but like at school or at your church that you can relate to.

Your not the only one who's vulnerable, there are others too and nobody is saying that you have to change either.

[Katzyn]

If people mock you then that's on them. What you need to do is find others not only online but like at school or at your church that you can relate to.

Athiest.

But yes, I know. I just don't like meeting new people. I have a couple of people at school I can talk to, I guess, but it's just...different. Like was said, it's easier to tell things when the people don't know you.

Thistle, I am not vulnerable to what people think about me; I am vulnerable about things happening around me, for instance, my pets being sick and/or dying. I am VERY vulnerable to that, and NEED to talk about it, somewhere.

please spare me/us having to read about how lonely you are then.
Uh? I could understand you saying that if I had said I was lonely, but I don't recall doing so, so....

OMG, I'M SO LONELY, there are a thousand-bazillion people I could talk to, but I have no one to talk tooooooooooo~.

Yay, emo.

Point being, I think people should be able to talk about anything, anywhere. If people want to be jerks and mock others for having emotions and whining about them for a moment, then too bad, that's their problem.

[Itachi4ever]

[color=purple]Athiest.

But yes, I know. I just don't like meeting new people. I have a couple of people at school I can talk to, I guess, but it's just...different. Like was said, it's easier to tell things when the people don't know you.

well, the only advice I can give you is just do what you think is best. just don't go into the depression mode where certain people start cutting themselves.

[Thistle]

Thistle, I am not vulnerable to what people think about me; I am vulnerable about things happening around me, for instance, my pets being sick and/or dying. I am VERY vulnerable to that, and NEED to talk about it, somewhere.

Point being, I think people should be able to talk about anything, anywhere. If people want to be jerks and mock others for having emotions and whining about them for a moment, then too bad, that's their problem.

Okey, so you’re tough and not lonely. But i still don’t get it, if you aren’t, why talk to people on the net about your feelings? Protecting yourself is only part of it, and you can’t tell me that you care for nothing that others say about issues that concern you. Because then there is no reason to talk about anything serious concerning your feelings at all.

It may be easier for you to talk to people who don’t know you (which is something i don’t do), but those people also don’t give a damn about you.
It is so much better to talk to someone who knows you and cares for you at least a bit. I just see no need to talk to strangers or acquaintances about things that concern me since i don’t value their opinion half as much as i value those of people i know and care for.

[Katzyn]

well, the only advice I can give you is just do what you think is best. just don't go into the depression mode where certain people start cutting themselves.

Been there, done that. And no, I wasn't emo. =p

Thistle, that's all about you. That's just who -you- are. I am someone who likes to share their thoughts, feelings, concerns, without regard to who cares, or what people think. That's just how I am. If it doesn't hurt me, which it doesn't, then why would it matter? It's not hurting you, other than maybe making your eyes bleed. =3 And there's nothing to protect myself from on the internet; people can say what they want, I don't care.

Yes, the people may or may not care, and if they don't, so what? I've said what I wanted to say, that's all I want. You could delete everything I said, and that'd be fine, because in my mind, simply writing it out has accomplished what I wanted: to get it off my chest.

Every one has a different way of getting things off their chest; my sister, today, and I went out to her friends grave today, so she could "let go" of all of her troubles. She didn't say a word about it, just simply being there, silently talking to him about everything that has happened to her recently helped her a lot. That's her way of making herself feel better. It doesn't work much for me.

Other people cut themselves, as a form of release. Obviously, it doesn't work for everyone, me being one of those it doesn't work for.

Other people write in a diary, or journal. Other people punch things. Other people, ect. Everyone has their own way. And it shouldn't matter -why- they do it (as long as they aren't harming anyone, of course); it's their own personal preference.

[King Vamp]

Good timing For this thread.

I don't even know why I'm depressed.
1) I have friends but no BEST friend
2) Biopolor GF with WAY overprotective parents. Plus I'm a very paranoid person. because I have been cheated on and ditched a lot in my life.
3) I really don't know why this makes me depressed. This is all stuff that i can easily deal with. But theres other issues that I'm not getting into that are making me feel overwhelmed.

No one has to respond to this. i just wanted to get it off my chest. thanks.

[Katzyn]

Good timing For this thread.

I don't even know why I'm depressed.
1) I have friends but no BEST friend
2) Biopolor GF with WAY overprotective parents. Plus I'm a very paranoid person. because I have been cheated on and ditched a lot in my life.
3) I really don't know why this makes me depressed. This is all stuff that i can easily deal with. But theres other issues that I'm not getting into that are making me feel overwhelmed.

No one has to respond to this. i just wanted to get it off my chest. thanks.

SEE! I'M NOT THE ONLY LUNATIC WITH THIS IDEA.

Poor Vamp. =< Having a bi-polar mother, I can somewhat sympathize with you.

Overwhelmed, huh...? I know how you feel. Even the little, tiny things get you down.

I hope things clear up soon. I know this month has pretty much been hell for just about everyone I know.

[spacecadet319]

I have 2 friends that are bipolar or were diagnosed with this "disorder"

One of them was dumped by his girlfriend and I think that was the cause of his depression but whenever he is around a lot of people he just cant stop talking and doing crazy things. Its funny sometimes, he broke one of my chairs once when we were all really high. Good guy too, cant find anything wrong with him except that he sometimes get really manic for no reason which could annoy people who dont know him.

My other friend had a form of bipolar disorder with some forms of extreme paranoia which I find quite perplexing and in a way relate to him in some forms. I myself am a paranoid person and it happened because of the way I grew up (some incidents in my early life that I dont really want to mention)

So anyway this guy is really cool in his weird way. He would say the most funniest one lines and whenever hes with a group of people he would just do the funniest things. However, one on one hes shy and doesnt assert himself at all. He also has the funniest image of himself, his ego is extremely bloated and he would say stuff like arent u glad i introduced this into ur life or something along those lines. Good guy tho, nothing really wrong with him.

This is one of the reasons I hate classifying things like these under disorders... They are disorders according to social norms... but how can u really know if its an actual chemical imbalance or not. Its difficult to depend on these drugs that are out currently that say they cure depression while they prolly do more damage then good.

Nothing a good spliff cant fix I always say.

[Azure Wrath]

I suppose I should have been decapitated, then.

Azure, I talked to my brother, told him my concerns, and he responded much more maturely than I would have thought. However...even given my concerns, he's asked he to marry him, and she accepted.

HE'S KNOWN HER FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR. He's been in Iraq for the last 15 months. WTF? *me beats brother with a thick stick*

Ah, well. As long as he doesn't bring her here any time soon, it'll all be fine. It's his life, I guess.

I just hope she makes him really happy.

Well... thats pretty screwed up... As long as he's hapy i guess, but still, i think he could be happier elsewhere :s

Some people, such as myself, do not have people to talk to outside of the internet, and that is how I vent when I am upset. If I have no one IRL, and I'm not supposed to online (*rolls eyes*), where else do I vent? If I were to keep it inside, I would explode. =o

The internet is not just for fun; it's for support, too, in case someone needs support. Granted, an anime forum isn't the first place you'd look to to find support, but we're all a family here, and we should each be able to talk about what is bothing us.

I agree with you on this one. NC may be an anime forum, but it also has some really nice members, who will actually listen/read your problems and offer advice. Which is more than i can say for some friends i've met IRL :(

You can't expect to get comfort on the web from people you dont know, but its still a good way to get it all out. I did that last year (as many of you know), when i was going through a rough time. And when you're alone at home, pissed off as hell, it just works for me to mash out all of my frustrations on my keyboard. I didnt wanna tell anyone here what i wrote, because each of my friends had a reason why i didnt wanna open up to them. So instead, i posted it to a place where i didnt CARE what others thought of me. and it worked out a lot better

And I should care that people will mock me? If I present my issues online, I'm not only not concerned whether people will care, but I am also showing that I am human, and full of insecurities, which is who and what I am. Why should I hide that because "people will mock"? And if people decide to mock me, big deal, it's the internet. I like the fact that I can say anything online, and not have anyone care; for me, when I spill my toubles out on the internet, it's just getting them off my chest, regardless of whether or not people care/offer advise/comfort, ect.

I am vulnerable, that's just who I am. And I will be who I am online, regardless of what people think.


ditto


Other people write in a diary, or journal. Other people punch things. Other people, ect. Everyone has their own way. And it shouldn't matter -why- they do it (as long as they aren't harming anyone, of course); it's their own personal preference.

better way of venting, IMO

[i_feel_tiredsleepy]

My mother was clinically depressed for a long time, and she still occasionally has break downs. Growing up with a parent who threatens to kill themselves repeatedly is more than a little stressful. Depression affects a lot of peoples lives, it's a big problem and the stigma attached to it is unwarranted.

[Thistle]

That's just who -you- are. I am someone who likes to share their thoughts, feelings, concerns, without regard to who cares, or what people think. That's just how I am. If it doesn't hurt me, which it doesn't, then why would it matter? It's not hurting you, other than maybe making your eyes bleed. =3 And there's nothing to protect myself from on the internet; people can say what they want, I don't care.

Yes, the people may or may not care, and if they don't, so what? I've said what I wanted to say, that's all I want. You could delete everything I said, and that'd be fine, because in my mind, simply writing it out has accomplished what I wanted: to get it off my chest.

I got my own opinion about this. Yes, it is your way of doing things and i don't care how you do it, but that's the point. I don't care for it. You can as well step outside and tell your feelings to a tree, no one will hear it and no one will care. It offers no real comfort. Even going to visit a friends grave makes more sense, because of what it gives to you. Anyway if it works for you to share your feelings with an uncaring audience, fine. As i said, i don't care.

Azure, yes you posted your thoughts here, besides me never doing such a thing (don't give away your inner thoughts in public is what i have learned) you got replies from people who cared and offered comfort, didn't you? Don't tell me that you don't care for that and that it wasn't what you aimed for. It depends on people liking you or not. Everyone doing it this way just longs for people who care imo.

Don't get me wrong, this Forum is a place where i would actually consider to tell about my feelings because i see most of the people around as nakama and a few of them even as friends.

[i_feel_tiredsleepy]

I got my own opinion about this. Yes, it is your way of doing things and i don't care how you do it, but that's the point. I don't care for it. You can as well step outside and tell your feelings to a tree, no one will hear it and no one will care. It offers no real comfort. Even going to visit a friends grave makes more sense, because of what it gives to you. Anyway if it works for you to share your feelings with an uncaring audience, fine. As i said, i don't care.

Azure, yes you posted your thoughts here, besides me never doing such a thing (don't give away your inner thoughts in public is what i have learned) you got replies from people who cared and offered comfort, didn't you? Don't tell me that you don't care for that and that it wasn't what you aimed for. It depends on people liking you or not. Everyone doing it this way just longs for people who care imo.

Don't get me wrong, this Forum is a place where i would actually consider to tell about my feelings because i see most of the people around as nakama and a few of them even as friends.

You don't actually have to know someone for that person to care, it is all about anonymity. That's why suicide help lines, and other crisis lines like Kids Help Phone work so well. Because people can phone up a person they don't know and tell them about their problems and they don't have to worry about running into the person every day of their life.

[Karin<3]

I have the perfect cure for depression, Mindless Self Indulgence !

MSI gonna turn you wicked gay ! (i love the sings that say that)


And im curious how is it possible to not have friends ? Are you just so anti social or dislikabale, im realy curious. I mean don't u make live long friends in grade school ? A least i did, i mean seeing the guys for 8 freakin years is sure gonna make u a bond (with the people u hang with). Now me and my friends moved to diffrent high school but we still see each other, pals for life. And not to mention the friends u meet outside school....

[King Vamp]

SEE! I'M NOT THE ONLY LUNATIC WITH THIS IDEA.

Poor Vamp. =< Having a bi-polar mother, I can somewhat sympathize with you.

Overwhelmed, huh...? I know how you feel. Even the little, tiny things get you down.

I hope things clear up soon. I know this month has pretty much been hell for just about everyone I know.

Thanks Kat. I hope this clears up soon too. It seems theres stuff I personally need to clear up within me.

[Katzyn]

I got my own opinion about this. Yes, it is your way of doing things and i don't care how you do it, but that's the point. I don't care for it. You can as well step outside and tell your feelings to a tree, no one will hear it and no one will care. It offers no real comfort. Even going to visit a friends grave makes more sense, because of what it gives to you. Anyway if it works for you to share your feelings with an uncaring audience, fine. As i said, i don't care.

If you don't care how I do it, then why have we been talking about this, you and I, for two days?

And just because something doesn't offer YOU any comfort doesn't mean it doesn't offer SOMEONE ELSE comfort. I -could- go out and talk to a tree, since I like talking to animals and plants, but everything is dead outside, and that makes me sad. =< Oh, and the tree's in my yard are those fake, really bendy, icky "trees" that grow really fast and suck hardcore to cut down, because they're so bendy. =< I hate them, and don't wish to talk to them.

[Thistle]

If you don't care how I do it, then why have we been talking about this, you and I, for two days?

Do people always have to agree with each other to talk about an interesting topic?

And just because something doesn't offer YOU any comfort doesn't mean it doesn't offer SOMEONE ELSE comfort.

I already said so, if it works for you, fine. I got the feeling that you feel like having to justify your opinion, which isn't the case. I don't know you and you don't know me, we need not care for each other's opinion. But you don't like to exchange opinions? *shrugs*

I -could- go out and talk to a tree, since I like talking to animals and plants, but everything is dead outside, and that makes me sad. =< Oh, and the tree's in my yard are those fake, really bendy, icky "trees" that grow really fast and suck hardcore to cut down, because they're so bendy. =< I hate them, and don't wish to talk to them.

You shouldn't hate any kind of plant, they all serve their purpose in nature, and the trees in your garden are completely innocent. They probably didn't even chose to grow there. And nothing is dead out there, just sleeping.

[i_feel_tiredsleepy]

You shouldn't hate any kind of plant, they all serve their purpose in nature, and the trees in your garden are completely innocent. They probably didn't even chose to grow there. And nothing is dead out there, just sleeping.

There is no purpose in nature, and anual plants die, every year seeds fertilized the year before grow into new indivuals.