View Full Version : 4 Tails naruto vs The "after timeskip" sasuke
zoldic777
10-21-2006, 04:20 PM
who ya think will win?, i'll go for naruto
(fuck, i dont know how to make a poll)EDIT: figured it out -.-"...patience
DonEmu
10-21-2006, 04:57 PM
if oro couldnt take out 4tk, how can sasuke stand a chance :p, even jiraiya came on the brink of death, this is kinda null and void...
Chidongan
10-21-2006, 05:06 PM
if oro couldnt take out 4tk, gow can sasuke stand a chance :p, even jiraiya came on the brink of death, this is kinda null and void...
i voted 4tk naruto, but we havent even seen sasuke's true strength yet, plus he still has cs1 and 2 on his side. who knows, maybe he can become stronger than oro with it.
Greenlitflag
10-21-2006, 05:13 PM
if oro couldnt take out 4tk, how can sasuke stand a chance :p, even jiraiya came on the brink of death, this is kinda null and void...
True but then again, as far as we know neither of them can enter naruto's mind and surpress kyuubi.
zoldic777
10-21-2006, 05:55 PM
exactly what i was thinking x)..., naruto should learn to control the kyuubi in a further better way...., BTW, when naruto was in the 1 tail form, he couldn't stay with it for a long time, so what do u think, i mean can he stay for long enough to defeat sasuke with 4 tails?
Chidongan
10-21-2006, 06:07 PM
actually both naruto and sasuke can stay in their strongest forms (4tk and cs2) for a limited time. so it would be better if they just fought with their own strength.
DonEmu
10-21-2006, 06:12 PM
exactly what i was thinking x)..., naruto should learn to control the kyuubi in a further better way...., BTW, when naruto was in the 1 tail form, he couldn't stay with it for a long time, so what do u think, i mean can he stay for long enough to defeat sasuke with 4 tails?
actually the first fight naruto went 2 tails didnt he, and he went 4tk long enough to give oro a problem, but seeing as they both cant stay in those forms for long, it is smarter to fight without em, i bet thats whats gonna happen anyway...
zoldic777
10-21-2006, 06:13 PM
hmm, if its their own strength i think sasuke would win, coz we are talking about the "After timeskip" sasuke, before the timeskip he couldn't win sasuke, i dont see why he can now since we have seen improvements in both the sides :P....
actually the first fight naruto went 2 tails didnt he, and he went 4tk long enough to give oro a problem, but seeing as they both cant stay in those forms for long, it is smarter to fight without em, i bet thats whats gonna happen anyway...
eeek sorry for double posting... *no mods here* haahaha
back to topic,
hey i would like seeing a fight like that where we can finally see their capibilities, i really just wanna see how far naruto improved..
Collateral
10-21-2006, 06:31 PM
eeek sorry for double posting... *no mods here* haahaha
back to topic,
hey i would like seeing a fight like that where we can finally see their capibilities, i really just wanna see how far naruto improved..
I think with his new jutsu naruto will defeat sasuke anyway 4tk naruto defeat 2s sasuke and normal naruto deafeat normal sasuke.
I was thinking about that whole "narutos jutsu" thing and i came to the result that he maybe dont learn many jutsus from jiraya cause i think we will see him now improve his new main jutsus i think he only improve his basics alot.
DonEmu
10-21-2006, 06:42 PM
i think he did learn some stuff from jiraiya though...like jiraiyas toad related jutsus
KageNaruto
10-21-2006, 06:43 PM
is this a joke? 4tk naruto would mop the floor with sasuke
DonEmu
10-21-2006, 06:46 PM
ppl seem to be over estimating sasuke:p, considering all he has really done is nagashi chidori:p
Greenlitflag
10-21-2006, 07:55 PM
ppl seem to be over estimating sasuke:p, considering all he has really done is nagashi chidori:p
Goes both ways, we've seen so little can't we can't really judge. Additionally, oro stopped sasuke from a most likely devastating justsu (seeing as how the reason oro stopped him was because he needed them alive to deal with akatsuki. And he wasn't afraid of team yamato killing sasuke cause they would never have done that and oro knows this.) Futhermore, he apparently has a jutsu that causes quite a destructive explosion of sorts (shown off frame and used on sai.) We know too little about sasuke's current strengh to make bold statements IMO.
zoldic777
10-22-2006, 03:38 AM
yea, we should'nt really underestimate him, but on the other side, naruto's training with give him alot of improvement, but sasuke is training at the moment, i think his new jutsu will be something really strong, something like a forbidden jutsu..., i have a question, when oro was fighting naruto 4 tails, who was having the upperhand?, i mean wasn't oro fighting so relaxingly? plz someone answer, i need to know o.o
well he seemed relaxed but that one kyuubi rasengan, he was afraid he was gonna die
so i think naruto was having the upperhand cuz yea oro ran and yamato stopped naruto
zoldic777
10-22-2006, 04:01 AM
aha!!!, i understand now why everyone expects naruto to win, but do u think its the same if sasuke uses CS2?
i don't know, sasuke may win because that one scene where goes into naruto's mind and conversation with the kyuubi, and he supresses the kyuub. or it could've been an illusion or something of sasukes.- my theory. but could be wroong. anyways it was said that sasuke uses drugs, most likely he is cuz tsunade knows oro well enuff. and i dunno cs2 not too sure, didn't see lots of sasuke
zoldic777
10-22-2006, 04:13 AM
exactly... anywhere, we see that too much people voted for naruto so they expect him to win, in other words, i got my answer, thankx :D, hope they take naruto's training so it can end fast, then we can finally see whats with sasuke ;) ok anyway thankx everyone
I am not really sure but doesnt the nine tails str add on to naruto own str so after naruto is done trainning wouldnt his 4 tails form be even stronger? But i say the four tail would kick sasuke butt because i dont think that snake run away tec that oro was using.
zoldic777
10-22-2006, 05:02 AM
:S i see, yes , i also think the 4 tails would be stronger because of naruto's training, naruto will be able to control wind and stuff..... but u should know that sasuke is training too but they didn't show us anything, but just as someone said, he has a dangerous jutsu which he was going to use, but oro stopped him, who knows, it might be THE MANGEKYOU SHARINGAN
but didnt itachi say to use that forum of the sharigan that he would neeed to kill hus best freind?
zoldic777
10-22-2006, 05:14 AM
hmm, i think yea, but u know he nearly killed naruto but that wasn't it.... maybe orochimaru found another way from his experiments, anyway, i just said Maybe its just a conclusion..... but there is something special, something further dangerous he learned, it must be some forbidden jutsus or a very high level of chidori, and in the manga, after all we read i guess we understand that they can enter the mind of the kyuubi jinchuuriki or something like that i think..... so we'll wait and see in the latter chapters what sasuke has learned, hope they show us some :P
steve
10-22-2006, 07:36 AM
4t naruto wouldnt happen... sasuke > kyuubi... we saw it already...
Its gotta be naruto without the kyuubi to beat him now
zoldic777
10-22-2006, 07:45 AM
i dont get what u mean, do u mean it wont happen...that he can't get to 4 tails or that he can't win sasuke, actually yea, i was thinking 4 Tails kyuubi can't win sasuke but after we saw the fight with orochimaru, he was afraid to die, orochimaru couldn't beat him so 4 Tails>oro>sasuke
i've been thinking that that might have been right, but u see sasuke has some jutsu, i believe its a forbidden jutsu or the mangekyou sharingan, what do u think?..
PS: naruto with his wind manipulation has alot of chances in winning sasuke....i think o.o
Collateral
10-22-2006, 11:12 AM
i dont get what u mean, do u mean it wont happen...that he can't get to 4 tails or that he can't win sasuke, actually yea, i was thinking 4 Tails kyuubi can't win sasuke but after we saw the fight with orochimaru, he was afraid to die, orochimaru couldn't beat him so 4 Tails>oro>sasuke
i've been thinking that that might have been right, but u see sasuke has some jutsu, i believe its a forbidden jutsu or the mangekyou sharingan, what do u think?..
PS: naruto with his wind manipulation has alot of chances in winning sasuke....i think o.o
I think steve meened that sasuke would kompress the kyubii again but i dont think he is able to do it alone.
of course sasuke has learned some forbidden jutsu but he never learned the M.S. until now. How should oro know how it works? i am sure he knows that you have too kill your best friend but sasuke didnt do that and i am sure oro dont know how to learn it on another way.
Uchiha Adrian
10-22-2006, 11:31 AM
well like u said 4tk > oro > sasuke
i tihnk his training with kakashi wud pay off loads as well dont forget his training with jairyia as well.
zoldic777
10-22-2006, 01:54 PM
yea but one thing oro>jiraiya
so training with oro might be make u stronger then with oro, but naruto has a good oppurtunity with the new kind of training since he can complete year trainings in a couple of weaks, but still, i still think that training with oro might have been better then with jiraiya, coz oro can develop new jutsus and improve some of the ones u have, dont u think so?
DonEmu
10-22-2006, 02:09 PM
but who says oro>jiraiya, the only aspect of oros training that i would say would give sasuke an advantage is the damn steroids, other than that, i would say jiraiya is pretty good, u forget jiraiya trained yondaime, and yondaime beat oro for the position of hokage :p
narutofan79
10-22-2006, 02:19 PM
i am not even convinced who the winner of vanilla sasuke vs vanilla naruto would be.
Plus sasuke cannot suppress kyuubi if naruto wants that chakra. Remember naruto was resisting him for the first time.
4TK would destroy sasuske, oro with all that battle exp was worried sauske would have dirty underwear
well their things were not puting into perspective, like that chidori body sheild sauke learned, oro cant do that because he has no sharigan so either sasuke learned that on his own or oro had some idea on moves that were strong but he couldnt do him self and taugh sasuke the fondation of how to do that.
DonEmu
10-22-2006, 02:43 PM
what does the sharingan have to do with that move, u can learn chidori without the sharingan but because of the high speed movement its useless with sharingan cause u cant see ur opponents counter....so i dont get ur point...be prob just taught sasuke how to surround his body of chakra...
zoldic777
10-22-2006, 02:46 PM
Nagashi chidori , i think thats a move sasuke taught oro, but now that don mentioned it, i think of it, yea i know jiraiyas too strong, maybe ur right :P must've been dreaming but i remeber something...ugh i must have been dreaming, back to topic,i dont think we dont need to understand the sharingan to teach sharingan users techniques o.o i think, but the mangekyou sharingan was only an idea, who knows :P maybe he has it, but u not underestimate orochimarus experiments and stuff, who knows, maybe kishimoto may pop up something there :P
KageNaruto
10-22-2006, 05:06 PM
Goes both ways, we've seen so little can't we can't really judge. Additionally, oro stopped sasuke from a most likely devastating justsu (seeing as how the reason oro stopped him was because he needed them alive to deal with akatsuki. And he wasn't afraid of team yamato killing sasuke cause they would never have done that and oro knows this.) Futhermore, he apparently has a jutsu that causes quite a destructive explosion of sorts (shown off frame and used on sai.) We know too little about sasuke's current strengh to make bold statements IMO.
if sai survived that jutsu, how do you figure it woulda killed team yamoto? oro could easily not want sasuke to use that jutsu so it remains an element of surprise for next time
zoldic777
10-22-2006, 05:32 PM
well i think orochimaru seemed like he was panicing over there, thats just why i thought its dangerous, but thus ur prediction there really means something.....
Uchiha Adrian
10-28-2006, 07:20 PM
Nagashi chidori , i think thats a move sasuke taught oro, but now that don mentioned it, i think of it, yea i know jiraiyas too strong, maybe ur right :P must've been dreaming but i remeber something...ugh i must have been dreaming, back to topic,i dont think we dont need to understand the sharingan to teach sharingan users techniques o.o i think, but the mangekyou sharingan was only an idea, who knows :P maybe he has it, but u not underestimate orochimarus experiments and stuff, who knows, maybe kishimoto may pop up something there :P
sasuke taught oro o_O
zoldic777
10-29-2006, 01:55 AM
oh comeon its a damn spelling mistake...O.o word mistake :S
partlink1
10-29-2006, 12:19 PM
sauske would pawn naruto now,
becuase ummm.. is everyone forgetting he can knidof
surpress the kyuubi chakra
which turns him into regular naruto who already got pawned
and not to mention after he came out he would die from blood loss even if sauske did nothing else because the kyuubi chakra is surpressed
DonEmu
10-29-2006, 12:33 PM
sauske would pawn naruto now,
becuase ummm.. is everyone forgetting he can knidof
surpress the kyuubi chakra
which turns him into regular naruto who already got pawned
and not to mention after he came out he would die from blood loss even if sauske did nothing else because the kyuubi chakra is surpressed
When sasuke was suppressed the kyuubi chakra naruto was also suppressing, we dont know if he is capable of suppressing the chakra if naruto willingly calls out kyuubi, and imo unless sasuke is stronger than oro and jiraiya, i doubt he would be able to take on 4tk...
When sasuke was suppressed the kyuubi chakra naruto was also suppressing, we dont know if he is capable of suppressing the chakra if naruto willingly calls out kyuubi, and imo unless sasuke is stronger than oro and jiraiya, i doubt he would be able to take on 4tk...
Sasuke suppressing Kyuubi!? Come on guys, let's be reasonable; he cannot do it by himself. If it was a one-on-one fight and Naruto was in a pinch, out comes Yonbi-Naruto and dead goes Sasuke. There's not much Sasuke would be capable of doing to stop the Kyuubi chakra from pissing itself out of Naruto. It would be a total ass-raping. Sasuke, even with the Sharingan and Uchiha blood ain't Yamato - and even Yamato can't do it forever.
N0mad
10-29-2006, 06:37 PM
4tk naruto would defenetly win... actualy, 4tails might be enough to kill just about anyone in narutos world, if he could stay in that form for long that is
WhiteFang
11-06-2006, 06:52 PM
We have seen little about ts Sasuke but there's always this balance between Naruto and him, so if Naruto got stronger and overpowered (4tk) Sasuke must have something as powerful maybe a new Curse seal lvl
If theres a full on fight... I dont think that he will be able to supress kyuubi, I think that happened cause naruto was in a weakend state and he was trying to supress the kyuubi on his own already!!
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