How much Ninjutsu/Genjutsu do you think Gai knows?

[YamaNekoX]

Well, he has to know SOME other things besides Taijutsu because how can he teach ninjutsu/genjutsu users? Also, he is able to float on water (during the Itachi battle) so he does have Chakra and have abilities to use them in other ways than taijutsu, so here is what i think:
Taijutsu - 10/10
Ninjutsu - 5/10 (He has to know at least one, i mean come on!)
Genjutsu - 0/10 (Probably has none, since he's more physical, and illusion is the complete opposite)

[Dweezil]

floating on water has nothing to do with jutsu's, that's Chakra control.

[Anbu Dr J]

hey u gotta know some kind of genjutsu to be a jounin...bunshin is kinda like a genjutsu ability

[Tragnael]

remember many ninja choose to specialisein on area or another. to be hokage you need to specilise in everything.. asuma is pretty physical too. kakashi being a sharingan user would be more gen/ninjutsu orientated.
being a rival with kakashi, perhaps gai noted he could never learn as much jutsu as kakashi, and had to excel at taijutsu, he says as mcuh when he confronts itachi because of the sharingans...other abillities
I have no doubts that gai is verycapable in other forms of justsu, it may even be that for lee's benifit he chooses mainly to use tai jutsu, to show him that a ninja can be powerful with tai jutsu alone.

[YamaNekoX]

hey u gotta know some kind of genjutsu to be a jounin...bunshin is kinda like a genjutsu ability

yea, but we never saw that ever happen >.<
man, i wanna see gai do some hand seals!

[Tragnael]

now theres a thread killer

[Kaiwub]

remember many ninja choose to specialisein on area or another. to be hokage you need to specilise in everything.. asuma is pretty physical too. kakashi being a sharingan user would be more gen/ninjutsu orientated.
being a rival with kakashi, perhaps gai noted he could never learn as much jutsu as kakashi, and had to excel at taijutsu, he says as mcuh when he confronts itachi because of the sharingans...other abillities
I have no doubts that gai is verycapable in other forms of justsu, it may even be that for lee's benifit he chooses mainly to use tai jutsu, to show him that a ninja can be powerful with tai jutsu alone.
Kakashi more than likely knows a lot of Taijutsu. He made Sasuke learn Taijutsu to increase his speed for Chidori. Kakashi has to have a lot of speed for Chidori and this speed is easier attained through Taijutsu. Also he has fought Gai and could probably copied his speed. He also looked at Lee's speed with his Sharingan.

[YamaNekoX]

remember many ninja choose to specialisein on area or another. to be hokage you need to specilise in everything.. asuma is pretty physical too. kakashi being a sharingan user would be more gen/ninjutsu orientated.
being a rival with kakashi, perhaps gai noted he could never learn as much jutsu as kakashi, and had to excel at taijutsu, he says as mcuh when he confronts itachi because of the sharingans...other abillities
I have no doubts that gai is verycapable in other forms of justsu, it may even be that for lee's benifit he chooses mainly to use tai jutsu, to show him that a ninja can be powerful with tai jutsu alone.
Kakashi more than likely knows a lot of Taijutsu. He made Sasuke learn Taijutsu to increase his speed for Chidori. Kakashi has to have a lot of speed for Chidori and this speed is easier attained through Taijutsu. Also he has fought Gai and could probably copied his speed. He also looked at Lee's speed with his Sharingan.

Using the Sharingan on Taijutsu won't allow the sharingan user to copy it, because it is too strenuous on the body, so that's why they can only see/copy ninjutsu or genjutsu.

[64HandsOfHakke]

Gai knows some Jutsu..you can see this in the tournament scene where they dispel Kabutos genjutsu.

[Kaiwub]

remember many ninja choose to specialisein on area or another. to be hokage you need to specilise in everything.. asuma is pretty physical too. kakashi being a sharingan user would be more gen/ninjutsu orientated.
being a rival with kakashi, perhaps gai noted he could never learn as much jutsu as kakashi, and had to excel at taijutsu, he says as mcuh when he confronts itachi because of the sharingans...other abillities
I have no doubts that gai is verycapable in other forms of justsu, it may even be that for lee's benifit he chooses mainly to use tai jutsu, to show him that a ninja can be powerful with tai jutsu alone.
Kakashi more than likely knows a lot of Taijutsu. He made Sasuke learn Taijutsu to increase his speed for Chidori. Kakashi has to have a lot of speed for Chidori and this speed is easier attained through Taijutsu. Also he has fought Gai and could probably copied his speed. He also looked at Lee's speed with his Sharingan.

Using the Sharingan on Taijutsu won't allow the sharingan user to copy it, because it is too strenuous on the body, so that's why they can only see/copy ninjutsu or genjutsu.
Then how did Sasuke copy Lee's speed? He also copied the beggining of Lee's combo.

[YamaNekoX]

well, those are simple taijutsu, i don't think he'll be able to copy the Lotus moves are Lee's ability to open up the 8 gates.

[penthief]

Sasuke uses chakra to attain Lee's speed, while Lee is naturally THAT fast.

I don't think you can necessarily copy taijutsu, but having the Sharingan allows you to see it being performed (i.e. Kakashi revealing Sharingan during Lee v. Gaara) thus helping gain a better understanding it. I guess it is some form of copying.

[Tragnael]

well, those are simple taijutsu, i don't think he'll be able to copy the Lotus moves are Lee's ability to open up the 8 gates.

what the tonberry said

[katonkage]

back to the point....gai has no reason not to know ninjutsu and genjutsu so im guessing he does....but if u think we havent seen him fight enough to give him a chance....there was the stadium with him and kakshi and kakashi only used taijutsu as well....and with itachi but itachi ran like a bitch before gai even got started

[64HandsOfHakke]

...again, I say that GAI DISPELLED THE GENJUTSU. at the same tournament fight. Thats gotta count for something right? maybe? Just alittle?

[Lixie]

Considering Gai is a special jounin, I say he would know quite a lot.

[YamaNekoX]

...again, I say that GAI DISPELLED THE GENJUTSU. at the same tournament fight. Thats gotta count for something right? maybe? Just alittle?

yea, just a little, but come on, that's a simple jutsu! I wanna see something special!

[Tragnael]

remember many ninja choose to specialisein on area or another. to be hokage you need to specilise in everything.. asuma is pretty physical too. kakashi being a sharingan user would be more gen/ninjutsu orientated.
being a rival with kakashi, perhaps gai noted he could never learn as much jutsu as kakashi, and had to excel at taijutsu, he says as mcuh when he confronts itachi because of the sharingans...other abillities
I have no doubts that gai is verycapable in other forms of justsu, it may even be that for lee's benifit he chooses mainly to use tai jutsu, to show him that a ninja can be powerful with tai jutsu alone.
Kakashi more than likely knows a lot of Taijutsu. He made Sasuke learn Taijutsu to increase his speed for Chidori. Kakashi has to have a lot of speed for Chidori and this speed is easier attained through Taijutsu. Also he has fought Gai and could probably copied his speed. He also looked at Lee's speed with his Sharingan.

Using the Sharingan on Taijutsu won't allow the sharingan user to copy it, because it is too strenuous on the body, so that's why they can only see/copy ninjutsu or genjutsu.
Then how did Sasuke copy Lee's speed? He also copied the beggining of Lee's combo.
sasuke didnt copy lee's speed just some of his basic taijutsu. kakshi trained him to be faster for the tournament

[YamaNekoX]

well someone said that he used Chakra to move that fast, but Lee is naturally that fast.

[brainwiz0072]

Lees sprit of will drove him to that speed, not only his phisical condisioning.

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[narutofanone]

Gai knows the kuchiyose ho jutsu. He can summon turtles. Gai taught Lee all of the taijutsu that he knows and Gai can open up at least six gates with ease while Lee struggles to open up five. Gai also doesn't feel the after effects of lotus as badly as Lee does.

[Chaos Lord]

I think the reason why we never see any ninjutsu or genjutsu for him is that fighting with just taijutsu is like a personal honor code for him, and he is soo good at it that he rarelly needs to resort to the other tehniques, of witch he should have a decent knowledge, but nothing really special like kakashy does.

[B0ukun]

I'm sure he's better at NInjutsu than people believe. He's obiviously stonger in ninjutsu than the genin and some of the early chuunin since he is a jounin. The fact that he specializes in taijutsu (H2H) does in fact to be a choice and not a lack of knowledge since he can summon turtles. As we've seen summoning takes a great deal of chakra control in order to summon them according to size. It may be that he's one of the jounin that only have 1 element but thats about it. We may never know the truth however.

THIS JUST IN: Is it possible that Gai stopped publicly using Ninjutsu in order to help Lee feel easier about becoming a ninja who can't use ninjutsu? thats a good one.

[Orlwick]

The data books show a decent score for his ninjutsu and genjutsu. Im leaning with Chaos Lords theory, its probably a personal honor code. His other jutsu could be support jutsu in order to get him in close enough to use taijutsu.

[B0ukun]

yeah, I'm thinking he just doesn't want to push Lee away from his dream. Think, if Rock Lee (who cannot do ninjutsu or genjutsu) see's that his mentor uses them a lot, he could be pushed away from his dream of being a Shinobi. I think it's honor but more so to the dedication that lee has and not to himself. As a ninja his code of Honor is rather lax and would change depending on his employer more or less. ANymore than that and he would be bordering on being a samurai.

[Skyward]

gai used a fire jutsu against the clone of that shark guy from akatsuki

[XxXItachiXxX]

Gai doesnt want to use ninjutsu because its just like using a pencil when you have a pen.

[KageNaruto]

Gai doesnt want to use ninjutsu because its just like using a pencil when you have a pen.

using a pencil is better, you can erase if you mess up-_-

[XxXItachiXxX]

using a pencil is better, you can erase if you mess up-_-

Im just using it to give an example of choosing something better. ok how about using a rock to sit on when you have a sofa?

[KageNaruto]

i guess thats a bit better, lol.

weve seen gai summon, dispell gengitsu, and create fire from his punches.

i dont remember his gengitsu stats on the data book, but his ninjutsu was 3/5(before time skip but it shouldnt change too much).

so yes, gai is average on jutsus

[XxXItachiXxX]

i guess thats a bit better, lol.

weve seen gai summon, dispell gengitsu, and create fire from his punches.

i dont remember his gengitsu stats on the data book, but his ninjutsu was 3/5(before time skip but it shouldnt change too much).

so yes, gai is average on jutsus

i would give his ninjutsu a 2 or a 2.5 out of 5 based on Jounin standards. Sasuke can probably out ninjutsu Gai.

[KageNaruto]

actually pre-timeskip he was tied with gai.

gai's gengitsu's level is also 3 by the way according to the data books

[XxXItachiXxX]

I would say now Sasuke's ninjutsu can beat out Gai.

[narutofanone]

Now, I would consider Sasuke more skilled with ninjutsu than Gai. This is true by a slim but crucial margin.

[Naruto BG]

Hmm..Maybe Sasuke can become strong than Gai with his Ninjutsu..

[Aizen-diacho]

going by the data books Gai is okay with ninjutsus he's sufficentianly skilled in it.Gai's biggest weakness is he low knowlegde of seals. Sasuke knows just a lil bit more ninjutsus than Gai and there even at genjutsus.

[sakurachanhaha]

Well, he has to know SOME other things besides Taijutsu because how can he teach ninjutsu/genjutsu users? Also, he is able to float on water (during the Itachi battle) so he does have Chakra and have abilities to use them in other ways than taijutsu, so here is what i think:
Taijutsu - 10/10
Ninjutsu - 5/10 (He has to know at least one, i mean come on!)
Genjutsu - 0/10 (Probably has none, since he's more physical, and illusion is the complete opposite)

I think he does have some genjutsu because at the first chunnin exams didn't he use di-spell on Kabuto's jutsu?

[Chidongan]

well he just dispelled a genjutsu it doesn't mean he knows him.

but i'm pretty sure you have to know taijutsu, ninjutsu, and genjutsu to become jounin.

[narutofanone]

Gai knows probably the sufficient amount but he likes to flex his muscles too much to stress his skill development in the area of ninjutsu or genjutsu.

[Hidden Ninja]

it is a genjutsu skill to dispel genjutsu, not ninjutsu. that being said, gai must have at least a little knowledge in genjutsus.

[narutofanone]

It probably would be enough to escape from most genjutsus unless maybe her were going up against someone like Kurenai.

[dead presidents]

just about to kick anyone's ass? scared just thinkin about it lol

[narutofanone]

Gai can boast all he wants because he is one tough dude. He has above average ninjutsu and genjutsu likely which can't compare to his superb taijutsu.

[AkatsukiDeidara]

Man I thought Lee was everything like Gai but I guess not..

[anantha92]

well, those are simple taijutsu, i don't think he'll be able to copy the Lotus moves are Lee's ability to open up the 8 gates.

Um.. he did lotus on naruto, but he didnt unlock any gates to do it.

[chi_dori]

he did lotus on naruto? when? i must have missed something.

[B0ukun]

it is a genjutsu skill to dispel genjutsu, not ninjutsu. that being said, gai must have at least a little knowledge in genjutsus.

Actually I think its Ninjutsu, why?
1. Naruto asked to be trained in Genjutsu and in so many words Jiraiya told him he was too stupid to learn Genjutsu. Then he taught him how to disspell Genjutsu.

2. Genjutsu is supposedly the ability to use your chakra to influence the other persons brain waves and create illusions. Disspell is simply the act of using you chakra to disrupt the flow of chakra in your body, be it pushing it up or down. It's more or less an advanced Chakra control.

3. Disspelling Genjutsu doesn't affect the chakra or brain of another party, only yours.

Since you are affecting your own chakra and not the person casting the genjutsu, Kai can be considered a Ninjutsu since Genjutsu affects your opponents chakra.

[jounin101]

Actually I think its Ninjutsu, why?
1. Naruto asked to be trained in Genjutsu and in so many words Jiraiya told him he was too stupid to learn Genjutsu. Then he taught him how to disspell Genjutsu.

2. Genjutsu is supposedly the ability to use your chakra to influence the other persons brain waves and create illusions. Disspell is simply the act of using you chakra to disrupt the flow of chakra in your body, be it pushing it up or down. It's more or less an advanced Chakra control.

3. Disspelling Genjutsu doesn't affect the chakra or brain of another party, only yours.

Since you are affecting your own chakra and not the person casting the genjutsu, Kai can be considered a Ninjutsu since Genjutsu affects your opponents chakra.


i dont think its a jutsu at all, i believe its something like molding chakra, or stopping chakra flow. something like that. dispelling genjutsu is just something ninja do, not a ninja technique.

[KazED]

If you use the arguement that because Gai is a jounin, he would definately need to know both gen and ninjutsu of a certain proficiecy.... then would that mean that lee would never bee able to become a jounin? i dun think so because any nin that fights lee would find him more than a handful.

Gai was placed to lead Lee, Neji and Tenten for a reason... all of them are pure taijutsu users. I think its very possible that Gai has limited knowledge of both Nin and Genjutsu... maybe just as much as a genin. doesn't mean that he doesn't have a solid base of chakra though.

Let me give an analogy - You have a 3-point specialist in ur basketball team, he can't really dribble, nor grab rebounds, but if he has like 99% 3pt percentage, you would value him really highly.