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Named

10-06-2006, 11:57 PM

In the thread titled, "Would You Rather", upon request by steve to produce a question, I posed the following:

"Would you rather face an inconvenience in the present to prolong your life (and the lives of others)

Or

Throw caution to the wind and enjoy the simple (destructive) pleasures. ???

Yeahhh, I went philosophical on yo asses."

The response I expected - not of steve, rather what I would expect from any sane human - was in favour of the latter. Live fast, die young. Not at all an evil or morally wrong sentiment, by this face value.

I confess there was an underlying purpose for this question. I wanted to bring attention to an issue we have ALL commited a huge degree of effort to ignoring, consciously and unconsciously. For the sake of our happiness and for the convenience of our easy lives, OH HOW THOROUGHLY AND RELENTLESSLY we have ignored it.

The question really asks is are all our trivial little pursuits and interests in our tiny lives more important than the welfare of our species and that of every living organism on the planet, which we are actively and knowingly destroying?

I left it vague for a reason. I wanted to expose the infantile nature of people. "QUICK PLEASURE, BABY, YEAH!!!"
That's all we care about. A momentary fix to serve as a distraction.
Let's go for a drive for the hell of it! Cars don't contribute to green house gases, foo'! That's liberal proganada =)
However, denial of reality is a folly of an exercise. Inevitably, it is either replaced by overwhelming despair as the illusion withers, or an even more stubborn and commonly arroused ignorance,
"Well i'll be dead, so who cares?"

It doesn't affect me personally. Why should I do anything about it?

What a disgusting attitude.

Here's the dirty little secret, humans. This defence can no longer be spoken in any validity. The last generation could pull it off... We can't.
In the next 50 years we will be entering what any surviving creatures of intelligence could descibe as The Age of Consequence.
Assuming many of you are around my age, I sincerely hope you had not planned on dying in the next 50 years.
It's already begun, you fools!

No longer can we afford to procrastinate. I know you want it to be a hoax from the scientific community to draw them a little attention! I know you are addicted to your lifestyles, and that you adore your comforts. I know how difficult it can be to motivate yourself to -care- about an issue so large, you can't even relate personally to it.

What I need for each of you to do is think of the last time you felt regret. Oh yes, "I don't waste time regretting!", of course, how could I forget?
Pfft, yes you fucking do. Everyone does, whether or not they mourn a poor choice, we ALL experience regret. It can be as small as the reflective thought of "I probably shouldn't have done that".
Consider that, in this retrospect you think that if you had only done that one little thing, made that effortless effort moments or days or weeks earlier, how much better life would be right now.
We no longer possess this leisure. We've been given too many chances to realise, the time is now upon us. We must decide how much we truly value our future.

I compel all of you to stand up not as men or women or even humans but as living organisms. If you cannot strive for your own surivival you are worth less than the bacteria multiplying around you. And that is not meant as witless offense; it is as I see the truth of our pathetic nature.

#Here are 10 simple steps toward reducing your yearly C02 emissions#
Turn Off Electric Devices - If its not being used, turn it off. Lights in other rooms, TV's, Stereos, DVD's, PC's. If not completely off, at least on stand-by to reduce power usage.
Change a light - from now on when you buy bulbs buy fluorescent bulbs, saving 150 pounds of emissions a year, not to mention a vast saving on electricity costs.
Drive Less - You'll save an average of a pound of C02 for every mile you don't drive
Check Your Tires - Keeping your tires inflated increases mileage by an average 3%... THAT ADDS UP OVER A YEAR
Recycle More - If you don't already, recycling appropriate materials can reduce your yearly emissions by an average of 2400 pounds.
Avoid Products with lots of Packaging - You can decrease your garbage output by reducing the amount of materials you take in in the first place.
Use Less Hot Water - (or use solar heating) Water has to be heated by burning fuels that release C02, having a slightly shorter shower or washing your clothes in lukewarm water helps.
Adjust your heating or cooling systems - Decreasing or increasing the temperature by 1 or 2 degrees relative to winter and summer respectively. Put warm clothes on in winter.
Plant a Tree - an average tree will absorb over a ton of C02 in its lifetime!

For more info go to www.climatecrisis.net

If you care about ANYTHING, then surely you care for the one thing that is everything to us.

I hereby open discussion on Global Warming. In later posts, and I hope with the assistance of others, I will present information clearly outlining the impact we have caused on the planet, including the present repercussions of these destructive attitudes on a global scale, as well as the far worse repercussions to occur in the next 50-100 years.

Whether or not you choose to accept our fate, whether or not your eyes are open to it, it will still happen to you and to everyone you know.

Fucking wake up.

animeking

10-07-2006, 12:09 AM

bah humanity always screws itself over even if people where to understand there would still be an @$$load who dont care sigh >.> of course these arent my exact opinion but i dont know how to put it all in writing at the moment ill be back here later when i think of something -_- sorry if i sound like an @$$hole

Named

10-07-2006, 12:14 AM

It is our duty to light a fire under the asses of these lazy people. We can do it. I refuse to give up on humanity.

Educate everyone you know. Everyone. If people refuse to listen- make them listen.

animeking

10-07-2006, 12:28 AM

but wouldnt forcing your opinions make people mad to the point where they ignore you?

V.VELDANEN

10-07-2006, 12:43 AM

FINALLY...

Named has broken the silence of Global warming issue...

Humanity has spent millenias to survive and this is a hurdle/a problem humans have to solve, like they have before.

This is not forcing a point, Named is TELLING you a simple fact. If people can't acknowledge this simple fact, then they can leave this thread and play their spammish games....

animeking

10-07-2006, 12:56 AM

DonEmu

10-07-2006, 12:56 AM

animeking

10-07-2006, 01:00 AM

Named

10-07-2006, 01:15 AM

anyone who says global warning is not an issue is a moron, but do u really think u can do what politians, billionaires and many more activists cant do, which is get ppl to care...humanity is a destructive existence...we tip the scales of nature and its balance, we are doomed to destroy our own world and ourselves...this is fate....destiny....so i agree with named, what can u really do. this aint the 70s were u can feign solving problems by smoking pot and singing kumbaya....i live in a 3rd world country, i am busy thinking on how to put food on the table....ppl are dying of diseases that have cures....madmen roam the streets, my priorities dont lie with this....Cant solve the big problem if the little ones still exist....hunger,disease....we cant take care of ourselves as a race, how can we take care of the earth....we are the smartest and dumbest species on this planet

You ask me if I can appeal to people, if I can make a difference. If you don't have a definitive answer for that, which you cannot possibly have, what kind of person would you be for not trying?

I'm trying to find out if I can make a difference. I'm outreaching to everyone I can as well as my personal contribution to a cleaner world.

You are no better than the individuals you look down upon as ignorants if you concede to our fate without fighting to make an impact. You are, in fact, the very problem and cause of our unfortunate state.

We just don't have time for arsing around like this anymore.

animeking

10-07-2006, 01:18 AM

You ask me if I can appeal to people, if I can make a difference. If you don't have a definitive answer for that, which you cannot possibly have, what kind of person would you be for not trying?

I'm trying to find out if I can make a difference. I'm outreaching to everyone I can as well as my personal contribution to a cleaner world.

You are no better than the individuals you look down upon as ignorants if you concede to our fate without fighting to make an impact. You are, in fact, the very problem and cause of our unfortunate state.

We just don't have time for arsing around like this anymore.

true we are alot of us (me for example) are hypocrites we are fools who look down upon others and dont do anything about it know diffrent and yet so much more pathetic -_- why must we act like so?

V.VELDANEN

10-07-2006, 01:20 AM

anyone who says global warning is not an issue is a moron, but do u really think u can do what politians, billionaires and many more activists cant do, which is get ppl the care...humanity is a destructive existence...we tip the scales of nature and its balance, we are doomed to destroy our own world and ourselves...this is fate....destiny....so i agree with named, what can u really do. this aint the 70s were u can feign solving problems by smoking pot and singing kumbaya....i live in a 3rd world country, i am busy thinking on how to put food on the table....ppl are dying of diseases that have cures....madmen roam the streets, my priorities dont lie with this....Cant solve the big problem if the little ones still exist....

You speak true words, in Africa (Ghana right?), poverty exist like nowhere else in the world. But that is not to say you cannot do anything about it, you can start educating others of the consequence of cutting down a tree, instill qualities that can preserve the environment. For it matters more than you know.

Africa atm, is suffering from desertification, where the Sahara desert spreads 1km per year across the lands as a direct result from deforestation. Consider the economic impact when the lands are not arable, people die from thirst and hunger, failure of crops...etc.etc

Be more proactive, avoid open air burning, wastage...invest more in agricultural sectors that provide more greens...

Make some noise, with enough demand, people will listen.

Named

10-07-2006, 01:21 AM

Don't waste time thinking about it and make the change. You are the only master of yourself, so better yourself.

If you are not content with your attitude, change it. Why else would you waste time fostering it?

Look around and see what you can change in your life. Then look beyond that to see who you can teach to do the same. It's not like we have to give up our lives to some overseas concern, it's a few simple adjustments to our lifestyles. Each person changes the slightest thing! Multiply that by our enormous population and you have a force to be reckoned with. The very force which brought us to the brink of destruction can save us.

It's so fucking easy.

steve

10-07-2006, 01:56 AM

helpful link if you are proactive

http://www.davidsuzuki.org/WOL/Challenge/

Named

10-07-2006, 02:07 AM

Thank you.

I encourage anyone with useful information to post here. Be it links to online sources, quoted articles, your own personal knowledge and/or anecdotes.

Share, bishes!

Bap

10-07-2006, 05:26 AM

I agree, but can we actually do it? Humans tend to blow things off like this, thinking that one person not doing their part won't make a difference. But when most people act like that, it does make a difference. People are going to always try to put responsibility on someone else.

Lost Prophet

10-07-2006, 03:47 PM

named, this is the time indeed to open up peoples minds and eyes. you are 100% right about this issue.

PEOPLE, THIS IS A TIME OF CRISIS!

if you want to live longer, and not be swept away by mass floods, or gain skin cancer, or even run out of the resources needed to live our everyday lives, then LISTEN TO NAMED!

this is something that gets worse by every day, and every hour, every minute, even evey SECOND! we waste way too much electricity, and we are destroying the atmosphere on earth. we are digging early graves. Some of us may not even live to be married with children, or even past 35-40 at this rate. Life is a treasure given to all of us, and right now, its deteriorating as we speak. This can be changed, if the world wouldnt be so ignorant....

Davis

10-08-2006, 12:30 AM

yay a member (origonal member I think) get's philosophical!
I respect that.
You are a greater MAN than I,

sessysgurl

10-09-2006, 08:30 PM

Meh all this only goes for ppl in developed countries, and rich ppl.....and Americans (damned lazy bastards! :p). Where im from the only problem i'd have on that list is recycling. We dont recycle that much just because we don have the facilities to do so.

None of this stuff is gonna work if just left up to residents, the govt will have to step in make them do it and/or create an environment in which it is more beneficial (immediate benefit that is) to follow those rules. With all ther "freedom" in the world nobody gives a crap about all this stuff or they do but its too much trouble.

The fact is u cant live forever and if one thing doesnt kill you something else will. I mean i can do my best to save the environment so i can live longer and tomorrow i step out and get hit by a bus that runs on water or some crap.

Bap

10-09-2006, 09:43 PM

V.VELDANEN

10-10-2006, 12:52 AM

It does not require a heck lot of commitment, just a shift in lifestyle...a little action from everyone would equals a less dirty existence.

Take david suzuki's nature challenge, through steve's link. That'll help to get you started.

Named

10-10-2006, 04:53 AM

I admit it wasn't hard for me to adjust. I've always hated cars, so I don't drive. I've always conserved electricity in the house because I live in my own place and am not rich =D (cheap bastard, ya-ya)

The only things I need to change are shorter showers and to contact the council to request a recycling bin.

Everything else has been educating other people and insisting they watch An Inconvenient Truth.

Yuber

10-11-2006, 01:08 AM

V.VELDANEN

10-11-2006, 01:31 AM

Cars aren't pretty anymore...its huge, round, and clogs up the roads and air...

I like bikes....^_^

Big-uns....

Named

10-11-2006, 08:10 AM

I also live in my own place and I try to conserve energy by walking unless I absolutely need to drive to get to my desired destination. I don't contribute much garbage to my apartment complex dumpster, I take short showers, recycle everything I can, and I leave all lights/electronics off in my apartment that aren't needed.(well, other than my computer right now, obviously) Not exactly revolutionary, but I try.

When I try to talk to others about the state of our environment, they usually just ignore what I'm saying and/or just assume that I'm some pretentious douche. Far from it, but most people I know, even some friends of mine, just don't give a fuck about the environment and basically have the "Well, the world probably won't end in my lifetime, so who cares!" attitude.

Heh heh... It's already happening in our lifetime. Greenland is visibly melting. Massive torrents of warm water are pouring down to the base all over the landmass. Something that used to happen on a small scale by the seasons, to only re-freeze. But it's not re-freezing anymore. It's never before in history occured on this large of a scale or as fast as it has. We're really fucked.
When Greenland has finished melting, sea levels will rise 20 feet =) The Netherlands, Japan, most of China, New York... bah, a whole multitude of places will be abandoned; under water. Great, huh?
*dances* Let's just move all the Republicans who opposed Environment movements to the shorelines =D We'll take the highground- how about that?

Unfortunately, it's not as simple as us losing landmass. Every body of ice; the North, South and Greenland, reflect vast amounts of sunlight. 99.9% of sunlight that strikes it, to be precise. With these giant reflectors gone and replaced by water, absorbing 99.9% of the sunlight, you have intense hot spots on the globe causing storms of an inconceivable magnitude that we as a species have never experienced before or imagined in our worst nightmares we'd have to.

Extreme weather is already raging human civilisation to a degree thought impossible 10 years ago. I do not want to think what it will be like with the icecaps gone.

Droughts are lasting longer through the years, too. Farm land is being lost, population is increasing. That means a lot of hot, storm-ravaged, starving, homeless people.

Bye-bye humans =D

sessysgurl

10-11-2006, 07:23 PM

lol that would be ironic :P But what? You're gonna die anyway, so screw the rest of humanity? Your children and their children don't get to live because you gave up on your own life? Just neglect humanity because life isn't good enough for you?

I'm not saying its ok, just that i can see why its so easy to not care and to convince yourself that u dont care. Like i said for ppl to care their going to have to be forced by law.

You have to think to that alot of environmentally friendly things are very expensive and the majority of ppl just cant afford to live that way even if they wanted to. Ppl keeping saying "all u have to do is change your lifestyle" but in ALOT of ways that is easier said than done.

Yuber

10-11-2006, 07:58 PM

I'm not saying its ok, just that i can see why its so easy to not care and to convince yourself that u dont care. Like i said for ppl to care their going to have to be forced by law.

You have to think to that alot of environmentally friendly things are very expensive and the majority of ppl just cant afford to live that way even if they wanted to. Ppl keeping saying "all u have to do is change your lifestyle" but in ALOT of ways that is easier said than done.

You do have a point, because a lot of people live in poverty, and things like solar panels are still really expensive. I know I can't afford them, but I would like to eventually get some when I actually buy a house for myself and get out of my crappy apartment. The poor in general are also really concered about just putting food on the table.

However, when I talk to some people, who clearly are NOT poor, some of them even completely deny the existance of global warming and think that it's "just some liberal bullshit" as said by one genius I talked to. This kind of shit is what really pisses me off, and I'm going to continue to bug the hell out of these people until they accept scientific facts.

Honestly I think the only way that the planet can be saved would be if somehow ~80% of humanity died out. I wish I could say that statement was pure sarcasm.

Also, what pisses me off even more are the power plants here in the US where I live not even trying to reduce their pollution output. Filter your god damn plants, you worthless shitstains. ARGHHHH! [/rant]

Bap

10-11-2006, 08:15 PM

Also, the chance of getting skin cancer keeps rising

One in 5 Americans and one in 3 Caucasians will develop skin cancer in the course of a lifetime.
By 2010, melanoma is projected to rise to one in 50 Americans.

http://www.skincancer.org/skincancer-facts.php
US based, but it still shows the increase.

sessysgurl

10-11-2006, 08:26 PM

HA! thats what u get for being white! :P (that was so ignorant)
Anyway just fill up on ur Vitamins A, C. and E it will reduce ur chances. It would also help to get rid of that hole in the ozone layer. I wish we could just fly some ozone up there and release it. Oh well, may we can make some artificial lightening maybe that will work.

@ Yuber:

you dont have to worry about some the human race dying out because i think within the next 100 years or so the population is gonna start decreasing. Not only because of diseases and such but because more ppl will be educated and educated ppl tend to have less children. Half of Africa will die from AIDS, half of America will die from Anorexia and Bulimia, Canada and European populations will just die off from old age, The East will kill each other in one massive war leaving Asians and Indians (who are technically also asians i guess), South Americans I dont know what will happpen to them but the population will be at least half.

Bap

10-11-2006, 08:30 PM

Haha, yes, that is what we (fair-skinned people) get. I would make a nasty come-back, but I'll restrain :P

I'll take your advice, perhaps :P

sessysgurl

10-11-2006, 08:44 PM

Haha, yes, that is what we (fair-skinned people) get. I would make a nasty come-back, but I'll restrain :P

I'll take your advice, perhaps :P

oh no! hell no! dont hold back............actually u can diss me on msn or something. Perhaps u'll take my advice? do u want to get skin cancer? You try to save white ppl and this is what u get. Also u're not "fair skinned" those are Mexicans and nothing can kill them.

Also, save the environment and so forth. YAY! for trees!

Bap

10-11-2006, 09:44 PM

Fair: Of a light hue
also -- free from blemish, imperfection, or anything that impairs the appearance, quality, or character =P

But let's not get side-tracked. I say perhaps because..well, i never liked taking vitamins =P But I'd probably like cancer less...

Named

10-12-2006, 04:21 AM

you dont have to worry about some the human race dying out because i think within the next 100 years or so the population is gonna start decreasing. Not only because of diseases and such but because more ppl will be educated and educated ppl tend to have less children. Half of Africa will die from AIDS, half of America will die from Anorexia and Bulimia, Canada and European populations will just die off from old age, The East will kill each other in one massive war leaving Asians and Indians (who are technically also asians i guess), South Americans I dont know what will happpen to them but the population will be at least half

So are people now blatantly ignoring my posts?
In the next 100 years? The consequences of global warming are 50 YEARS around the corner, and you're concerned about diseases wiping us out?
No, no, no. We're going to drown, starve and be killed by massive storms in the next 50 years before diseases can kill us.
That's a scientific projection if we do not make a change to stop the escalating temperature worldwide, not Named's opinion.

It's a false economy to think polluting saves you money. The alternative fuel sources for cars, for one example. Many of them are -completely fucking free-, but no one wants to go to the effort. Hydrogen-celled fuel cars, despite being more expensive, will save you enough money in just the first YEAR of running to make them cheaper in the long-run.
These are the sorts of people who fail at chess. They cannot think one single step beyond their present position. If it's not cheaper now or more desirable, who cares how poor and miserable (and dead) we'll be tomorrow?
I can't understand it, but that's what controls the majority of people.

The popularity of this thread is another issue to be made of. No one wants to be informed because the reality is not a pleasant one. They live in ignorance and they will DIE in ignorance. Oh well?

Dorphuk

10-12-2006, 04:35 AM

Nothing is going to happen within the next 50 years so no call me ignorant but that's my life sorted :D

Named

10-12-2006, 04:49 AM

The consequences of global warming are occuring now, and it's understood they will escalate at such a rate it won't take any longer than 50 years for even the most ignorant to say "Why is my shoreline gone? Wasn't there a shoreline here before?"

Ignorance may comfort you now, but it won't comfort you when you're dying.

Dorphuk

10-12-2006, 05:20 AM

Well when i'm dying the only thing that will comfort me are drugs to ease the pain.

As much as i would love to help out with whole global warming and stuff there is fuck all i can do when:

The USA drew worldwide criticism for failing to adopt the greatest international agreement for the reduction of some greenhouse gases, The Kyoto Protocol, which has been accepted by nearly every other country. This is despite the fact that the USA is by a massive margin the world's biggest polluter and very disproportionately so. President bush has repeatedly stated that he will not adopt such protocols if they harm American economy. Commercialism and greed overcome all common sense and thought for the welfare of future generations. This failure causes hatred not only of the Bush administration, but of American commercialism in general.

Named

10-12-2006, 05:31 AM

American economy is faltering under leadership which refuses to instigate environmental protocals, though. It's the same for a governments economy as it is for an individual's finance. What they believe benefits them now can be projected to devastate them in the future.
American cars don't even meet the emission standards in CHINA. They can't export much of anything right now; the world doesn't respect their low standards.
Bush is destroying America in every conceivable respect =D

ScareCrow

10-12-2006, 02:39 PM

We should start an organization that does something about it..and i got the perfect name for it:

Penguin Hordes :)
or
Named's Organization to Stop people from destroying the earth and to help this earth survive longer.

narutoIZZAbest

10-19-2006, 09:33 PM

It's a very contraversial thing-- Especially when Bush is American's president. For example, the environmental issue is not being looked upon because BUSH OWNS TEXACO-- A GAS COMPANY.

America has a lot of power to fix things but with a president like Bush we won't go anywhere. Before global warming has acting slowly but now when its OBVIOUSLY speeding up, no one does anything.

Ponaris

10-25-2006, 06:21 AM

america hasnt signed the kyoto agreement, because they like money too much (iraq)

even if the pollution is stopped now the effect as built up the momentum to increase for the next 15 years

partlink1

12-08-2006, 06:54 PM

As it is right now humanity is destined for destruction,

we have adjusted to the life style that will lead to global warming by emmiting a massive amount of CO2, but as it is right now there is nothing that we will be able to do

for when a big volcano erupts it emmits a massive amount of CO2 in the air that can cool the earth's temperture by 3 degrees, while us humanity have already decreased the temperture of earth by 12 degrees since 1980( amount of 4 volcanic eruption) there is now nothing we can do, for these massive present volcanos will one day blot out the sun, this is true.

Volcaneos's such as the one in yellow stone national park, which have been labeled as mega-volcaneo's, can destroy a country and its last eruption has been said that it's poisonous ash covered the land and masses of animals over 1,000 miles away were killed and the global temperture droped over 25 degrees and shortly after they found that an ice-age had occurd, and this volcaneo is still active and over due to erupt

so my point being that humanity is not to blame for global warming, we just helped it so we could fulfill our selfish desires. what might have been thousands or even millions of years away is now coming quickly.
but still if one good volcaneo erupts it will be here

Humanity right now is a lost hope named even if we start to do something the end will come shortly with-in our childrens life time so what I find the best thing to do is either find some miricle device that can remove a set amount of co2 from the atmosphere or allow global warming to come and learn how to survive that way we can prepare the next generation to be able to take care of themselves

*sorry if this got a little confusing :p me and words don't get along*

Flyin

12-10-2006, 08:46 PM

It's true that many economic practices of numerous countries go against Environmental standards, but what you must understand with the US is that their economy is one of the weakest in the world. It's completely structured on international debt, that they haven't paid off. They still owe over 40million because of the Cold War, and are increasing their debt every year. They can't take steps to lower emmisions because doing so would make the economy faulter completely, leading to a depression in the market and entire global positioning for the western products.

Massive weather shifts can be blamed on humans, and there have been more climaticly induced weather phenomenons in the past 100 years than the previous recorded 500.

We could die any second, with immense volcanoes, meteors, plauge, pestillence and war. Getting depressed about it doesn't help at all. Everyone can do their part, especially in countries where you find more economically flourishing people. I drive a 3500 truck, big ol' V8 deisel. Horrible emmisions, but it's still better than the octane gas my Altima uses. There's also many products under research in Canada (Surprisingly the leader in global energy demands research) that lower emmissions by using natural products. Bio Diesel, is around, and has been for years, but as Named said, most people are too lazy to go to the 3 second effort to do something to help. I go out of my way, 30Km(18Miles) outta town to get Bio Diesel for my truck because it's better for the environment. It's not much but it's what I do to help, and I feel bad about always letting Frion (Dimethaltetrachloroflouride) leak into the air at work.

narutofanone

01-09-2007, 02:35 PM

Things usually turn out the way they were meant to. I guess that a person can affect that but you gotta have fun in life.

Chaos Lord

01-21-2007, 04:15 PM

bah, this somewath alarmist, even though the current trends of global warming are of concern, most developing countries are already shifting to economies that allow them to have a economic and indutrial growth without damaging the evoriment.

The real problem nowadays lies in the politics of the two most dangerous, biggest industrial countries in the world, namely USA and china, especially since the USA didnt agree to almost none of the propositions done in the kyoto treaty, wich show a really concerning lack of interest in the future beyond WE HAVE OIL AND PWN EVERYONE. and the same for china, wich altough not as uncaring as the usa has a economic growth ratio that in 50 years would need several planets the sice of earth to mantain.

On the other hand, you must understand that there is just NOTHING that can end with mankind sort of earth being vaporiced all of the sudden, and the current ratio of scientifict progress will make soon all of our concerns thin of the past.
for example, the frst protoype fusion reactor (fusion is like the safest , most efficent power source in the universe, only matter-antimmater anihilation is more efficient, altough more in the "omg earth is dust" side of safety concerns). is being build in cadarache,france with a multinational inversion of 9 billion euros.See ITER proyect for info.
However a sligth change of attitude for you americans is needed. I MEAN, YOUR EVIL AND YOU KNOW IT.

Oh and btw, stop saying thing like "we could die any second" mankind is far more resourcefull that most people think. once thing start looking really grim we will made some serius advance and get our asses out of the fire, its always been like that.

NMK

02-10-2007, 09:38 AM

We will wipe ourselves out. The Human species is doomed. ^^

Chaos Lord

02-11-2007, 04:55 AM

We will wipe ourselves out. The Human species is doomed. ^^

Then i propose that we go down in a epic way!!
lets made a dramatization of dbz using nukes as kamehamehas
with presindent bush as vegeta,the the russian premier as freiza and the chinese premier as goku.
Then it would be broadcasted as a reality show and every week all ppl in the world chosee in wich country will take place the show next.
And the surviving country will get the honor of hosting the martial arts tournament!!!
then we all be death in a spectacular and satisfactory way.And the civilizatoins that come after us will marvel at the incredible powers and wisdom of our ppl,wich had such an advanced culture that focused our self destruction impulses in a last season of sane enteraiment for the whole family!!

Octo

02-11-2007, 05:26 AM

If we taught Bush how to play WoW, this wouldn't be happening.

Surely I jest.

Chaos Lord

02-11-2007, 03:29 PM

Bush will become a ganker and wit outside the hirede starting ares with his lvl 70 paladin and pwn all noobs on sight.
Much like he does in the real world.

Spangle

03-06-2007, 12:45 AM

LOL death to everyone!!!

Lollercide

03-06-2007, 02:34 AM

Eeh.. People fail to realize that regardless of the reasoning or time that the human race will have to hit a cataclysmic point, just because of nature and the way the world works.

The commonly taught 'supply and demand' rule can clarify this. Demand will 'always' increase. Always. And if our demand keeps increasing, we're going to keep supplying more. Consider that one of our biggest demands is a limited resource, oil, which is also our most dependant resource. We use it to transport food, to make biproducts such as insecticide and medicines to produce food and keep us healthy. Anyway, the more we reproduce, the more demand. It's obvious that humans excell at surviving and we increase in numbers over years, that means our numbers will increase.. Until we run out of supply.

Regardless of what the 'supply' may be (however oil is the first assumed to run out) it will have a devestating impact due to the height we keep elevating the problem (by constantly increasing in numbers and consumption). Until we hit 0. When this will happen? Who knows? We have 10 years or so of oil supply, and a good bit from any other resource we may find, but none of it is limitless. So regardless of time, it's bound to happen, and when it does, a lot of people will die.

So what do we do? Who cares? If you're sitting there worrying about the end of the world, where does that leave you? Worrying about the end of the world.

We were all bound to die sometime, and if it so happens that everyones going to die at the same, then so be it, but at least enjoy your ride or you were a waste of oxygen to begin with.

Vishox

03-17-2007, 12:37 AM

It is our duty to light a fire under the asses of these lazy people. We can do it. I refuse to give up on humanity.

Educate everyone you know. Everyone. If people refuse to listen- make them listen.

well i'll just stick my fingers in my ears and sing...

Vishox

03-18-2007, 04:38 AM

no one bothered to retort yet... i sense failure in your quest hahaha

dominicbowser09

08-02-2007, 11:11 PM

my life is procrastination, ill even put eating off til later