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If naruto and sasuke were to fight again, who would win? BTW im talking about the time skip. I think naruto would win because if he perfects the rasengan with the wind manipulation it might own sasuke.
imported_Aizen-diacho
09-24-2006, 10:18 PM
imo naruto right now versus sasuke would lose.if we go into naruto using his seal and naruto using kyuubi naruto wins.but if naruto master's mixing chakra nature and chakra formation he'll proably be equal with sasuke cs1
Shino18
09-24-2006, 10:20 PM
right now sasuke even when naruto masters chakra manipulation he is just better as a whole right now
miscalculatex
09-25-2006, 02:01 PM
We really don't have enough information to guess. Anything that anyone says is speculation since we havn't seen sasuke really fight yet.
Azure Wrath
09-25-2006, 03:29 PM
yeah, i can't say, we don't nkow what sasuke's forbidden technique is, too little info. but i think both will die... miracolously!
I say right now easily it would be sasuke!! After naruto has mastered the new technique, then Sasuke still has the gates and not to mention, has had kakashi seal removed!!
DonEmu
09-25-2006, 06:03 PM
I say right now easily it would be sasuke!! After naruto has mastered the new technique, then Sasuke still has the gates and not to mention, has had kakashi seal removed!!
what gates???
imported_Aizen-diacho
09-25-2006, 06:26 PM
gates? wtf when did they say sasuke knows gates.he proably can open a gate since he's so good in tajitsus but i doubt he can open anymore than 3.but sasuke isn't that strong as you guys think he is.and his jutsus isn't forbideen oro just told him not to use that jutsus.he most likly doesn't want him to show them any of his good jutsus.
my bad, I meant the seal!!
DonEmu
09-25-2006, 06:59 PM
oh...cause i was wondering whether i missed a chapter or summin,lol...sasuke might be strong but its gonna be a close fight...imo, if it where sasuke against team 7 though, they would pawn him, since he is not immune to kakashi's MS since their eyes are different...
HarlemDuelists
09-25-2006, 08:54 PM
sasuke atm.
nizzoc
09-25-2006, 09:47 PM
base on the little info we have right now... I would go with Sasuke. But eventually Naruto, duh? hehe
DonEmu
09-25-2006, 10:14 PM
the hero wins in the end....so else superman would have been stabbed with krptonite ages ago...and batmans car would run out of fuel..
KageNaruto
09-25-2006, 11:41 PM
since sasuke can repress kyubi... im guessing sasuke.
PLUS, naruto wants sasuke to come back, sasuke doesent give a sh8t and would just kill naruto.
and we have seen sauske REALLY fight, he went all out on team yamoto while they were trying to convince him to return, yamoto explained that sasuke was ready to kill.
imported_Aizen-diacho
09-26-2006, 12:14 AM
okay but that doesn't say that he went all out on them.you can say that the jutsus he used during their breif incounter were some of his few great jutsus.but okay lets say sasuke does supress the kyuubi's chakra you still think he'll be able to beat naruto after he learns his new jutsus
imported_Greenlitflag
09-26-2006, 12:18 AM
since sasuke can repress kyubi... im guessing sasuke.
PLUS, naruto wants sasuke to come back, sasuke doesent give a sh8t and would just kill naruto.
and we have seen sauske REALLY fight, he went all out on team yamoto while they were trying to convince him to return, yamoto explained that sasuke was ready to kill.
I highly doubt he went all out (cursed seal wasn't even used.) Hell, Oro stopped him before he even did a new jutsu. Gai intended to kill kisame but he didn't go all out at all.
imported_Aizen-diacho
09-26-2006, 01:15 AM
ga opened 6 gates and used a very extaordinary tajitsus thecnique which everyone on his team knows so it must be one of his greatest thecnique
imported_Greenlitflag
09-26-2006, 01:47 AM
ga opened 6 gates and used a very extaordinary tajitsus thecnique which everyone on his team knows so it must be one of his greatest thecnique
I'm assuming he can open all 8. That would be going all out.
Don't forget his all powerful nunchauks
KageNaruto
09-26-2006, 11:14 PM
ga opened 6 gates and used a very extaordinary tajitsus thecnique which everyone on his team knows so it must be one of his greatest thecnique
I'm assuming he can open all 8. That would be going all out.
no, that would be just stupid. he would kill himself, i call that going scuicide
jounin101
09-27-2006, 12:19 AM
yeah, dying to beat kisame would be dumb. they didnt even know it was a clone, so i think gai went all out.
imported_Greenlitflag
09-27-2006, 12:29 AM
ga opened 6 gates and used a very extaordinary tajitsus thecnique which everyone on his team knows so it must be one of his greatest thecnique
I'm assuming he can open all 8. That would be going all out.
no, that would be just stupid. he would kill himself, i call that going scuicide
You're... kinda missing the point. The phrase going all out means your very best or highest. Going all out... not going most of the way. You act like if he did 8 gates he wouldn't become insanely strong and most likely kill most oppenents. If it came down to it, I'm sure he would do that. Besides, this about sasuke. And I think he was hardly going all out on Team Yamato.
jounin101
09-27-2006, 12:49 AM
i see what u mean, he wasnt going all out, but fighting seriously. if all out will kill gai, then he wouldnt do it until it was absolutly necessary. and that wasnt the case with kisame.
HarlemDuelists
09-27-2006, 08:46 PM
sasuke was jus showcasing his speed against team yamato, and wut chapter is this gai vs kisame fight im hearin alot of it i wana go read it
nizzoc
09-27-2006, 09:32 PM
sasuke was jus showcasing his speed against team yamato, and wut chapter is this gai vs kisame fight im hearin alot of it i wana go read itfor the gai fight, start with 255 then you won't miss any detail...
HarlemDuelists
09-27-2006, 11:08 PM
thank you!
In that fight sasuke didnt even come close to going all out, he was still incredibly calm faced w/ the odds he was up against and they couldnt hold him, he was "serious" but in no means even pressured to go all out!! I believe that was a small sample of his new power!
imported_Greenlitflag
09-28-2006, 02:12 AM
If you read the dialouge at the end of the Sasuke Vs. Team Yamato fight, it sounds like the jutsu sasuke was about to do would've killed or high atleast had a high chance of injuring teamY. Oro needed teamY alive to "manage" Akatsuki so he stopped sasuke from doing this jutsu.
or oro didn't want sasuke to use it because he didn't use it in it's full potential
You mean he couldnt! And it might have been a danger to him! Thats a possibility either way he wasnt even near going all out!
Chidongan
09-29-2006, 07:56 PM
or maybe it was becuase they couldnt kill of naruto, cuz he's the main character. :O
but i think oro is just one of those stoopid villians that let the good guys live, just so they can beat them in the end.
oro used to be smart but his quest for i mmortality made him STUPID
DonEmu
09-29-2006, 08:06 PM
or maybe it was becuase they couldnt kill of naruto, cuz he's the main character. :O
but i think oro is just one of those stoopid villians that let the good guys live, just so they can beat them in the end.
The leave the heroes alive for no reason syndrome is usually caused by the "i am immortal syndrome" in bad guys...but they forget the cure which is no one lives forever :?
i have a feeling naruto for manga and anime is gonna end in the year 2009 :)
Davis
09-29-2006, 09:10 PM
Lol, iu think Naruto KILLS SASUKE.
if sasuke won, it'd be redundant.
Sykosis
10-10-2006, 11:00 AM
Sure sasuke didnt go all out...but neither did naruto not to mention he was still drained from using the 4 tails. We havent seen anything from these two...all we've seen are amped up versions of their past techiques (oodama rasengan and chidori nagashi)...and yes sasuke has great taijutsu but when has this ever been a "deciding" factor wen he fights naruto...also i believe that their forbidden jutsus are either equal or naruto's is slightly stronger...reason being that orohimaru stopped sasuke only coz it could be deadly to team 7 and oro wanted them alive whereas jiraiya actualli forbids naruto from using it even tho he knows naruto will be going against akatsuki whom he def knows are very strong- it is either suicidal, uncontrolled by naruto or too powerful...so its quite difficult to tell. however saying this, i rekon at that time sasuke was stronger- he can suppress kyubii hence naruto is deprived of a "power-up" whereas sasuke still can use his seal. Therefore, naruto has to go train a new jutsu so that he can either equal or surpass sasuke if they fight again wivout the need for kyuubi- however i find this quite hard for naruto coz the sharingan is so imba in that it just gives sasuke such an edge in battle- somehow naruto also has to get faster so that he can cancel out the countering of the sharingan (since he formerly relied on kyubi for this speed and strength increase). So naruto has to also get faster and stronger unless his complete rasengan and wind manipulation can account for these two aspects.
JeffMusta
10-10-2006, 03:35 PM
How do you know Gai can open 8 gates? He's never done it, else he would be dead, right? Kinda paradoxical... he could ASSUME he would be able to... but then again... he doesn't know until he does it.
Nadeem99
10-10-2006, 03:49 PM
I think its too early to say who will win. We dont know about the exact development of sasuke in his jutsues and we dont know what type of jutsu Naruto is going to develop.
if we see that Kakashi told Naruto if he can develop the Jutsu he can surpass Forth Hokage and in my opinion Sasuke dont have the caliber of Forth Hokage
Further, if Oro has restrained Sasuke to use certain Jutsu, I think Jiraya also forbade Naruto from a certain Jutsu.(i think)
As a result Naruto is the Winner
darklighter
10-10-2006, 05:42 PM
all out or not it's illogical to say Oro would allow Sasuke to get strong wnough to actually challenge his power WITH or WITHOUT the cursed seal. Naruto on the other hand nearly killed Oro going 4tk. I think if Naruto went that far against Sasuke he would definately win, but 3 and below am not so sure. And I don't think Sasuke can REALLY repress Kyuubi. If you think or read back Naruto on his own was already trying to keep kyuubi in check, Sasuke just aided the process. If Naruto was to given into Kyuubi like he did vs Oro I doubt Sasuke could pull a yamato. Evil chakra or no evil chakra.
KageNaruto
10-10-2006, 11:39 PM
I think its too early to say who will win. We dont know about the exact development of sasuke in his jutsues and we dont know what type of jutsu Naruto is going to develop.
if we see that Kakashi told Naruto if he can develop the Jutsu he can surpass Forth Hokage and in my opinion Sasuke dont have the caliber of Forth Hokage
Further, if Oro has restrained Sasuke to use certain Jutsu, I think Jiraya also forbade Naruto from a certain Jutsu.(i think)
As a result Naruto is the Winner
kakashi said naruto can surpass he 4th. not because of the jutsu. just surpass him. it might take naruto 10 years to do that for all we know. you interprited their dialogue way too wrong. you think 1 jutsu can suddenly make naruto above the level of arguably the strongest ninja ever?
Nadeem99
10-11-2006, 06:29 AM
Naruto fought with Sasuke to bring him back and been defeated. The ojective of Naruto to brong back Sasuke so that Oro could not use his body as container.
Kakashi also told Naruto that he will surpass Fourth in this training and they are training using colnes so that they have not enough time as approximately 6 months are remaining before Oro can transfer in Sasuke's body.
so hey have to train less than 6 months not 10 or more years
jounin101
10-11-2006, 12:05 PM
i think he specifically meant passing the 4th when it comes to rasengan, not overall. i'm very sure it would take naruto years to surpass the 4th ninja-wise.
I think that kakashi said that naruto will surpass him , not the fourth cuz Naruto has to learn much more then just some perfect rasengan to surpass the hokage
But he will be able to do something that neither one of them was able to, and no it wont make him stronger than him as soon as he learns it, but it will be a true testment to his ability and potential to surpass them both!
KageNaruto
10-12-2006, 10:21 PM
I think that kakashi said that naruto will surpass him , not the fourth cuz Naruto has to learn much more then just some perfect rasengan to surpass the hokage
he said he can surpass him and the 4th
KageNaruto
10-12-2006, 10:23 PM
Naruto fought with Sasuke to bring him back and been defeated. The ojective of Naruto to brong back Sasuke so that Oro could not use his body as container.
Kakashi also told Naruto that he will surpass Fourth in this training and they are training using colnes so that they have not enough time as approximately 6 months are remaining before Oro can transfer in Sasuke's body.
so hey have to train less than 6 months not 10 or more years
kakashi never said in his training. he said 'i belive you have potential to surpass the 4th"
you seriously think naruto would be able to kill itachi an orochimaru because of just 6 months of training?
you either got a horrible translation, or read it wrong
And you think that naruto will surpass the 4th and kakashi cause hes now able to do and has the knowledge to do one jutus better then those 2??
What if he misses, or simply doesnt even land the jutsu like when the 4 tails shot that kyuubi beam at Oro!! No matter how powerful that jutsu is, it will have to land, hence he will only surpass them in that jutus, not overall! Cause he wont be stronger than them!
KageNaruto
10-14-2006, 03:02 AM
And you think that naruto will surpass the 4th and kakashi cause hes now able to do and has the knowledge to do one jutus better then those 2??
What if he misses, or simply doesnt even land the jutsu like when the 4 tails shot that kyuubi beam at Oro!! No matter how powerful that jutsu is, it will have to land, hence he will only surpass them in that jutus, not overall! Cause he wont be stronger than them!
kakashi said himself that the training WILL make naruto stronger than him, and i will belive him for now.
stronger than the 4th? hell no, not any time soon
but kakashi said himself naruto ould be stronger (im hoping hes right? why? cause we havent seen a fight with normal naruto at all that actually lasted long enough to determine how good he is)
In the only manner that I can think of, naruto is already stronger than kakashi, I believe naruto is stronger physically, and chakra capacity!!
But in no other way, basically he wont be able to defeat kakashi in a one on one fight, which means i.e. hes not surpassing him!!
Like kakashi said, to do this jutsu dont take a genius or a bloodline, it takes a special knack, I think raw determination and emotions, naruto has that, but it will only get you so far, he cant beat kakahsi, once he learns this!
KageNaruto
10-15-2006, 06:55 AM
like i said, kakashi said naruto could, so im gonna go with him and hope hes right.
you know this training has been making every part of naruto except experience/smarts better
darklighter
10-15-2006, 02:04 PM
when you say stronger than Kakashi you do mean plain old Naruto right without using the Kyuubi in any respect. IMO Naruto is already close to or even at Kakashi's level without Kyuubi so yes probably knowing this one powerful, stronnger than S class rank Jutsu will make him surpass Kakashi
You cant be serious, naruto w/ no kyuubi is not on kakashi's lvl, he wouldnt stand a chance!
And like I said, even if he knows the jutus, doesnt mean it will land in a fight!!
If they were both fighting to kill each other my moneys on kakashi, I bet he will land mange b4 naruto lands his elemental ransengan!
That pretty hard to tell since kakashi said that naru will surpass him after he learn the perfect form of Rasengan
jounin101
10-16-2006, 12:15 AM
i still dont think thats the case. if this jutsu doesnt hit, then naruto will be the same exact naruto, who cant beat kakashi w/o kyuubi. its not like naruto is learning "kaioken" or something, its just an ultra-powerful attack. if he misses kakashi, then its useless and he'll probably feel 1000 years again.lol.
Like I said, if this was a fight to the death, I bet kakashi would win, he would hit naruto w/ mange before naruto lands his wind rasengan!
KageNaruto
10-16-2006, 05:30 AM
Like I said, if this was a fight to the death, I bet kakashi would win, he would hit naruto w/ mange before naruto lands his wind rasengan!
wow, you actually think kakashis mangekyu whic is almost useless unless you have a back-up partner would hit? naruto isnt the time that stands around in a fight like gaara, hes always moving around.
and this new jutsu isnt all naruto is learning! its increasing his stamina, overall chakra supply, his control over his kage bunshin, his chakra manipulation, its not just a new jutsu!
CrazyLuca
10-16-2006, 11:45 AM
if naruto uses gets at least 4 tails, i think he beats the crap outta sasuke, and if it goes any further then that, even sasuke's seal won't help him !
we have all seen what naruto did to orochimaru with 4 tails.
but without kyuubi, naruto gets pwnd ^^
Not really , Remember Sasuke can compress the kyuubi's chakra so dont over estimate naruto and sasuke
Collateral
10-16-2006, 01:20 PM
Not really , Remember Sasuke can compress the kyuubi's chakra so dont over estimate naruto and sasuke
you really think sasuke can compress it even without naruto want that too?
i think that would be to easy if there is a bloodline limit wich can shut off it completely
yeah I do , You have any proof that he can't?
Collateral
10-16-2006, 01:41 PM
yeah I do , You have any proof that he can't?
you have any prof he can?
when he did it first naruto want that too
If he could it would be really damn unfair cause that meens naruto should fight a bloodline limit user with the seal without anything - ok that is not really an argument for what i said but its better than nothing :P
DonEmu
10-16-2006, 02:24 PM
i kinda agree that sasuke may not be able to completely suppressing the kyuubi chakra, when he did naruto was also suppressing the chakra, i would like to see him try when naruto is already on root to 4tk....and imo, after naruto learns his new jutsu, i would think he would be capable to taking kakashi...
jounin101
10-16-2006, 04:55 PM
the only bloodline that can do that is the 1st's. i think sasuke explained what he did a long time ago when he fought naruto. (1st rate shinobi who know eachother very well can read eachother's minds...) its a long stretch of a theory, but it might have something to do with it.
i dont think he can just negate kyuubi when it is unleashed physically throughout naruto's body. if he can, GAME OVER NARUTO!
KageNaruto
10-17-2006, 12:25 AM
the only bloodline that can do that is the 1st's. i think sasuke explained what he did a long time ago when he fought naruto. (1st rate shinobi who know eachother very well can read eachother's minds...) its a long stretch of a theory, but it might have something to do with it.
i dont think he can just negate kyuubi when it is unleashed physically throughout naruto's body. if he can, GAME OVER NARUTO!
kyubi called the sahringan a cursed bloodline/eye(forgot which he said), so kyubi and sharingan go back.
its easily possible uchihas tie into kyubi soemhow, allowing sasuke some power over it
jounin101
10-18-2006, 12:56 AM
i doubt that every single uchiha would have the power to suppress kyuubi. if that was the case, where were they when kyuubi attacked konoha? itachi didnt kill them yet and according to you, they have some effect on kyuubi.
KageNaruto
10-18-2006, 02:44 AM
i doubt that every single uchiha would have the power to suppress kyuubi. if that was the case, where were they when kyuubi attacked konoha? itachi didnt kill them yet and according to you, they have some effect on kyuubi.
yeah, thats the thing i dont get. its quite a large mystery... we really need to find out more about this madara person
I hope they actually do, I hope he wasnt just mentioned and thats it, they wont elaborate on him, and just completely forget they mentioned him once b4!!
KageNaruto
10-20-2006, 02:23 AM
I hope they actually do, I hope he wasnt just mentioned and thats it, they wont elaborate on him, and just completely forget they mentioned him once b4!!
yeah, were still waiting for the mangekyu sharingan explanation(on how kakashi got it)
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