Emo People

[Masah]

What are your thoughts on emo people? The kids who have it so bad.

[Hellchild915]

ahahahahahahahhah I know a couple of emo kids and some of them are cool but there are just some that need to stop being little Bi***es and man up becase they are always saying how bad there lives are just STFU

[Sol]

Can somebody help "Define" what you guys consider EMO. Because when I first heard it...it made sense. But then I heard a few other people describe...and then I was slightly confused. I'll let you know if I know any and what I think of them after I can clearly know what they are. Thanks.

[KageNaruto]

pathetic attention seeking crybabaies who cut themselves to make other ppl feel sorry for them. they needa get a real un-emo life, damn them all.

in fact i am gonna become emo-slayer, the famous super hero created by me

[Sol]

Ah...I see. In this case...yes I know 1 1/2 people who are like this. The half I will explain later. But the 1 is a mom who is a friend of the family. She got treated badly as a kid and went through a devorce about 3 years ago. And honestly...she is probably the most EMO person you could imagine. Im not going into details...there are just so many of them. :?

And the 1/2 is her daughter. She was always a nice person, but lately she is becoming EXACTLY like her mom. It really makes me sick to think of such things...but shes still only 1/2 because she only goes through EMO bouts...and isnt like that 24/7.

But yes, EMO type people are not my favorite in the world...to put it nicely... :wink:

[narutoIZZAbest]

well, since they have it so bad I don't think they deserve anymore hate from people. You guys should give them a break.

But other than that,.. I really don't think I hang out with any so I never really interacted with them.. probably not going to get to know anybody like that anytime soon.

Never really gave a thought about them. :|

[KageNaruto]

so what if they have it bad? they are olny making it worse by turning emo!

[JGK]

they are pointless..... just that.

[narutoIZZAbest]

because she only goes through EMO bouts...and isnt like that 24/7.

But yes, EMO type people are not my favorite in the world...to put it nicely... :wink:
sounds like me.. my cousin keeps saying that im semi-emo so i have sympathy for them.

[estranged]

well, since they have it so bad I don't think they deserve anymore hate from people. You guys should give them a break.

But other than that,.. I really don't think I hang out with any so I never really interacted with them.. probably not going to get to know anybody like that anytime soon.

Never really gave a thought about them. :| ur right....they don't deserve anymore hate from other ppl...coz their lives r bad enough i guess.

i had a friend who cut himself coz of a girl. how lame is that?!.....and plz note that i said i "had" a friend....i mean...is one girl really worth that, he must have been 16 at the time.

i'm not emo, never have been, never will be (yes, i'm this sure)....and i don't know any emo ppl now, don't even want to, and hopefully never will. i do feel sorry for them though, in a way.

[Chidongan]

im split. i feel sorry for them. then again i dont.

i dont think anyones life could be as bad as they make it out to be. and if it is then they're not 'emo'.

Emo, to me, is where you make your life out to look bad, so people feel sorry for you. basically to some people its just a fad.

[Octo]

Chidongan got it right, people with horrible lives, tend to be sad but not bitch, whine and complain. Emo people tend to come from middle-class familys with very little wrong. But they look for drama, make stuff-up and just bitch about everything. A LOT of them do this because its a popular fad and they're hoping to be seen as a "scenekid" and get girls. But it doesn't work because no one wants to date a whiny bitch.

To quote the emo kid song "She told me: I've already got a pussy, I don't need another one"

[Kuroda]

there GAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!

[AK47]

emo people are nice people who we need to acknowledge, for their abilities and bow hunting skills

[Bartimaeus]

grrr, I have enough of listening them say: My life sucks, I wanna die, why am I me, why don't I have another life??

WELL STFU EMOs, everyone has problems, and it's not by crying you will solve it, so get out of your dark wardrobe, and start thinking of a way to make your life better!!

KageNaruto, I with you in slaying them!!

[ColdFire]

As much as emos annoy me, they come up with some good music, so its all balanced out.

[Sol]

LOL ColdFire...thats thinking positively! :D

[Hime_sama]

well, since they have it so bad I don't think they deserve anymore hate from people. You guys should give them a break.

But other than that,.. I really don't think I hang out with any so I never really interacted with them.. probably not going to get to know anybody like that anytime soon.

Never really gave a thought about them. :|


they have bad lives???!!!!!!

you american and european kids have it bad? are you kidding me? you need to come down to central america, africa, india, asian countries, arab countries and see what bad lives really are!!! you make more money in your weekly alloance, than thousands of family men do in a month. and they have families to feed! EMOS have it bad!!! grrrrr.... plz, do slay them!!! this really makes me mad.

i'm on a program in my college were you recollect food all week and make small baskets. then, we head to the city bumpster. the thing is like 1 1/2 miles long. there are a hundred families living in that dumpster. we take this baskets to them, and they are soo grateful it makes you feel like sh*t! i mean, you have clean cloth, a roof, food everyday (just one meal) and a bed and you're the richest person in the world!! this people are so grateful for the iny bitty small basket we take! and you see them smiling, and saying thanks and inviting you into their carton house! you're not the same after seeing such scenes.

what's so bad about their life anyways! it's amazing how high your suicide rate is!!! you barely hear of suicides here!

why is your highschool life such a torture anyway! and don't they know there's life after it???

EMOS are just sad and pathetic!!!!! ungrateful, synical, idiotic, conforming kids who need a spanking. sorry, i have no sympathy for them. they deserve all the hating they've received!!!! GROW UP!

[superkhanh0]

wow i like your post, very good, take everyone away from just hate/love emo but deep down they r just spoil brats

[DJ Jaime]

As much as emos annoy me, they come up with some good music, so its all balanced out.
Agreed. :)

But well, I agree with what Hime said, Emo kids should visit these countries and stop complaining about crap, because indeed here we have really poor people who don't act dramatically about it. I myself have had the experience to meet this ppl who work in the countryside, earning few money, being exposed to the sun all day and yet they're proud of their work and what they do (I personally admire that). And well, basically, we don't really have much Emo's here either (They're rare here) and well, I think they should stop complaining about crap, since most of them have a nice place to sleep and eat and all, and well, even if some of them indeed had a bad life... they should do something more optimistic about it instead of being lame about it.

And just as a weird fact, here in Mexico we don't have many suicides either (compared to other countries), however, in the state I live in (A Small State), There are many suicides every week, which is something many people do not understand, and well, I think this state is the only suicidal state in the country (Most suicides come out from this state). Probably because It's a really hot place all year, and it just depresses people (Just as extremely cold weathers do)

[King Vamp]

Emos are fine with me, tere not that anoying, some can be though. Also they have good music.

[Octo]

I think the song by Mindless Self Indulgence: You'll rebel to anything (as long as it's not challenging), sums up all my views on emo's.

Especially "you think your lifes the only one that's a piece of shit, but somehow we all seem to deal with it."

[Ninja - Pirate]

The term 'Emo' is often misinterpited, I once stumbelend upon someone saying that 'EMO* is "like a Goth, only much less dark and much more Harry Potter"...

The term emo comes from:

The early 90s there was a movement in the hardcore genre that came to be known as "Emotive Hardcore," spearheaded by Rites Of Spring. Harder-core-than-thou kids, who swore by Dischord Records a la Minor Threat, actually coined the term "Emo" as something of a put-down for the kids who really liked Rites Of Spring, Indian Summer and this new wave of "Emotive" Hardcore bands. That's right, "Emo" was once not something kids called themselves. The field exploded outwards from there - Level-Plane Records has always been the most famous Emo label. Acts like Yaphet Kotto, I Hate Myself, Saetia, Hot Cross, A Day In Black And White, Funeral Diner, I Would Set Myself On Fire For You, You And I, and hosts of others came in the next decade. Most emo bands have since broken up, but there's still the occasional hold-out (again, the majority of Level-Plane Records' roster has been a procession of emo acts). Like most DIY hardcore/punk of the time, a majority found its way onto vinyl and not much else. Some people consider bands like Fugazi, and later Sunny Day Real Estate, a progression of emo, but personally, I don't quite follow that philosophy.

Often, more recently, this gets intertwined with post-hardcore, and understandably so - that's nothing to make an issue of, since well shit, at least it's close.

Since the late 90s, though, bands have been emerging in the vein of Taking Back Sunday, Dashboard Confessional, and the thousands of their clones. As far as I can tell, some lazy journalist somewhere, writing an article about them, decided "Well, fuck, no one knows what emo is anyways, so I'll call these bands "emo" - sounds more appealing than bubblegum pop rock..." and the spiral continued downwards into the current amalgomation of bands MTV has told everyone is "emo."

Somehow, people decided that "emo" meant "emotional," which is obviously bullshit, as 99% of bands make music to illicit emotion, which would make "emotional" a completely all-encompassing genre from classical to opera to pop to rap.

Actually - as of being an EMO as people call this state..- it has nearly become a fashion, belive me, it is trendy too be in this state these days. I can't seem to find anything reasonable in this at all but ..

[Chidongan]

Chidongan got it right, people with horrible lives, tend to be sad but not bitch, whine and complain. Emo people tend to come from middle-class familys with very little wrong. But they look for drama, make stuff-up and just bitch about everything. A LOT of them do this because its a popular fad and they're hoping to be seen as a "scenekid" and get girls. But it doesn't work because no one wants to date a whiny bitch.

To quote the emo kid song "She told me: I've already got a pussy, I don't need another one"

well actually you'd be surprised how many of my female (non-emo) friends like emo guys. its rather weird.

well, since they have it so bad I don't think they deserve anymore hate from people. You guys should give them a break.

But other than that,.. I really don't think I hang out with any so I never really interacted with them.. probably not going to get to know anybody like that anytime soon.

Never really gave a thought about them. :|


they have bad lives???!!!!!!

you american and european kids have it bad? are you kidding me? you need to come down to central america, africa, india, asian countries, arab countries and see what bad lives really are!!! you make more money in your weekly alloance, than thousands of family men do in a month. and they have families to feed! EMOS have it bad!!! grrrrr.... plz, do slay them!!! this really makes me mad.

i'm on a program in my college were you recollect food all week and make small baskets. then, we head to the city bumpster. the thing is like 1 1/2 miles long. there are a hundred families living in that dumpster. we take this baskets to them, and they are soo grateful it makes you feel like sh*t! i mean, you have clean cloth, a roof, food everyday (just one meal) and a bed and you're the richest person in the world!! this people are so grateful for the iny bitty small basket we take! and you see them smiling, and saying thanks and inviting you into their carton house! you're not the same after seeing such scenes.

what's so bad about their life anyways! it's amazing how high your suicide rate is!!! you barely hear of suicides here!

why is your highschool life such a torture anyway! and don't they know there's life after it???

EMOS are just sad and pathetic!!!!! ungrateful, synical, idiotic, conforming kids who need a spanking. sorry, i have no sympathy for them. they deserve all the hating they've received!!!! GROW UP!

i agree with you

[i_feel_tiredsleepy]

Well that last post certainly was well researched.
Although I don't consider myself to be emo, mostly because i don't listen to their kind of music, dress in black, or complain about my life. But I think emo people steal all their ideas from existentialist phillosophers who argued about the pointlessness of life except they did it a lot better.
I always find it ironic how people who consider themselves to be non-conformist just conform to a popular idea of what it means to be different.

[Chidongan]

Well that last post certainly was well researched.
Although I don't consider myself to be emo, mostly because i don't listen to their kind of music, dress in black, or complain about my life. But I think emo people steal all their ideas from existentialist phillosophers who argued about the pointlessness of life except they did it a lot better.
I always find it ironic how people who consider themselves to be non-conformist just conform to a popular idea of what it means to be different.

uhmm. im and existentialist to an extent too. but i dont consider myself to be emo. it is true (imo) they do 'borrow' their ideas, but they twist it around to make their lives seem worst.

[Octo]

Chidongan got it right, people with horrible lives, tend to be sad but not bitch, whine and complain. Emo people tend to come from middle-class familys with very little wrong. But they look for drama, make stuff-up and just bitch about everything. A LOT of them do this because its a popular fad and they're hoping to be seen as a "scenekid" and get girls. But it doesn't work because no one wants to date a whiny bitch.

To quote the emo kid song "She told me: I've already got a pussy, I don't need another one"

well actually you'd be surprised how many of my female (non-emo) friends like emo guys. its rather weird.



It's because they're seen as "having emotions". Although to most people it's seen as gay because they take it to the extent of crying, sobbing. Which most guys just won't do.

[2Pac]

Emos are whiny bitches, my sister is emo and she gets w/e she wants.

[Hiyo]

Some people are definitely just spoiled and whiney. Although I think a lot of the more serious emo types are just that way cause of chemical imbalances and such. People react to things differently in general, toss in some extra estrogen and a guy turns into a cry baby, toss in some extra testostrone (typo?) and he acts like a prick and beats people up for fun.

I think the internet tends to bring out a lot of the whiny emos though cause they can use it to grab some attention and sympathy. Probably cause they are lacking the attention they need in live. Then they end up babbling too much and sound stupid.

In summary; I don't really care about emo people but I think in a lot of cases it just their bodies and life style that makes them that way. You don't commit suicide just because daddy doesn't pay enough attention to you. It's something deeper. They can end up with their own personal hell of an existence cause of it. So ya, people around the world are starving and it seems pretty childish to complain about their lives but even the richest man in the world can feel like the loneliest man in the world so give some of them some slack and make sure not to generalize them.

Instead pick out individual emos that are obviously just being whiney and poke them with sticks. It's a proven technique. Or atleast it's fun when they cry :D

jk :P

[Ichee]

Well good thing I'm in the hood and not in middle class america....

Anyway I see these punk rock fags and I don't really give a shit about thm....

I hear them sometimes saying weird shit like..." Dude that fucking rocks like hell" and all this other whiteboy shit/no offense/
and yeah I heard they complain alot....

I don't have time to complain.... I got to beat up people, get money and have some fun.....
I an't cry like some woman...

To me males that cry alo are females.... and dudes like me take advantage of their weakness eithier by making them do our homework or taking their girl...

Anyway I see this shi in high school.... Also if they was in the hood I think they would complain so much or maybe they would ciom[plain and probably commit suicide on their first day.....

[narutoIZZAbest]

well, since they have it so bad I don't think they deserve anymore hate from people. You guys should give them a break.

But other than that,.. I really don't think I hang out with any so I never really interacted with them.. probably not going to get to know anybody like that anytime soon.

Never really gave a thought about them. :|


they have bad lives???!!!!!!

you american and european kids have it bad? are you kidding me? you need to come down to central america, africa, india, asian countries, arab countries and see what bad lives really are!!! you make more money in your weekly alloance, than thousands of family men do in a month. and they have families to feed! EMOS have it bad!!! grrrrr.... plz, do slay them!!! this really makes me mad.

i'm on a program in my college were you recollect food all week and make small baskets. then, we head to the city bumpster. the thing is like 1 1/2 miles long. there are a hundred families living in that dumpster. we take this baskets to them, and they are soo grateful it makes you feel like sh*t! i mean, you have clean cloth, a roof, food everyday (just one meal) and a bed and you're the richest person in the world!! this people are so grateful for the iny bitty small basket we take! and you see them smiling, and saying thanks and inviting you into their carton house! you're not the same after seeing such scenes.

what's so bad about their life anyways! it's amazing how high your suicide rate is!!! you barely hear of suicides here!

why is your highschool life such a torture anyway! and don't they know there's life after it???

EMOS are just sad and pathetic!!!!! ungrateful, synical, idiotic, conforming kids who need a spanking. sorry, i have no sympathy for them. they deserve all the hating they've received!!!! GROW UP!
well i never said that they had it worse then the other kids in those other countries

the stereotype of the average emo is obviously self pity and self centered.
they did have it bad but they are making TOO BIG of a deal out of it. im not saying you should lower any of their pain.

i think that they just take emotional to another level which is why people are so annoyed with them... -- i think its been said before, its a trend

but then again, if you're gonna use that defense would you ever say to a friend that's down, "THESE KIDS IN OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE IT WORSE THAN YOU!!!" I think its just cuz they're emo and that's the usual reaction.

[grim-diablo]

well said i agree
new zealand in the poor bits is a pain in the a**

[DJ Jaime]

the stereotype of the average emo is obviously self pity and self centered.
they did have it bad but they are making TOO BIG of a deal out of it. im not saying you should lower any of their pain.
That's what I hate about Emos, Most of them Instead of trying to solve whatever their problem is in a convenient way, they just dramatically act about it doing lame stuff.

[Octo]

Well good thing I'm in the hood and not in middle class america....

Anyway I see these punk rock fags and I don't really give a crap about thm....

I hear them sometimes saying weird crap like..." Dude that f***ing rocks like hell" and all this other whiteboy crap/no offense/
and yeah I heard they complain alot....

I don't have time to complain.... I got to beat up people, get money and have some fun.....
I an't cry like some woman...

To me males that cry alo are females.... and dudes like me take advantage of their weakness eithier by making them do our homework or taking their girl...

Anyway I see this shi in high school.... Also if they was in the hood I think they would complain so much or maybe they would ciom[plain and probably commit suicide on their first day.....

This is exactly what Hiyo said about too much testosterone.

[Purvis]

/wrist

[Masah]

There comes a point of sympathy where I tend to draw the line, when they cut themself, or always talking about how much MY life would be better without them, I just usually give in and say "you're right", the sympathy I have for people is for the people who always hide their problems, no, not with scars, but people who actually give it their all and fail.

And as for emo-music I dislike it.

[Purvis]

http://lolemokids.ytmnsfw.com/

[Hiyo]

I have a friend that I'd classify as "emo". She's chemically imbalanced for sure. When I first met her years ago I thought she was completely bonkers and after some fights and ignoring her for a year we started to talk again. She got off some meds the doctors had her taking and she was a completely different person. Me and my friend would go over and hang out with her and her boyfriend all the time this winter.

However, she still acts emo over simple stuff; ie: I sent her a video I thought was funny but because it had girls in bikinis she got all pissy about me sending her a video full of ass and titties and bitched me out. Now we haven't talked for months. I know she had a lot of relationship problems with abusive boyfriends when she was younger though and that mixed with her chemical imbalance really messes up her moods and emotions.

So yeah emotional types like that can be annoying and seem whiney but deep down a lot of them have serious problems and it's not as easy to fix those as you think.

My aunt would probably be emo if she was younger. She's fucking insane. She was bonkers when she was younger and they have her doses of some chemical to balance her out for 22 years and it was 3x the amount they should have so she's pretty much stayed in a bonkers state of mind for years. She's very weird and very annoying if she comes around (which is like once a year).

[Masah]

I'm not implying that all emo people are fakes, but there are definitely some, and what makes it WORSE is that they think they've got it worse than everyone else.

[Purvis]

The emotions someone feels are dependant on the phsyche of an individual. In other words, if they get all bitchy, it's cause something offended them, based on their beliefs.

Sure, chemical imbalances are present, causes them to overreact, but, it's their fault. They choose to let these things bother them, it's their choice. This is something completely within their control, albeit somewhat difficult, like quitting cigarettes, however, it's completely possible, if they put forth any effort. I respect those that can overcome it, and I am completely indifferent to those who can't. (and laugh, cause the things they do is utterly ridiculous.)

Bottom line, if their environment upsets their current belief system, they can just be upset or change their belief system. It's their choice, no sympathy.

There is a reason rich people get rich, and a reason I've never seen anyone with the mindset of an emo person get anywhere in life. (Other than getting a fan base with their music.)

It's about the mindset, it's about learning to overcome your obstacles. This is what the "emo" mindset lacks, which is why I believe they deserve no respect. Instead of trying to win the fight, they cry, and moan, and make people feel sorry for them.

Unproductive, self centered.

oh, and....

http://emosong.ytmnd.com/

[Hiyo]

Sure, chemical imbalances are present, causes them to overreact, but, it's their fault. They choose to let these things bother them, it's their choice.

Sorry but that's a very ignorant comment to make. People with serious chemical imbalances don't "choose" to let things bother them. That's the whole point of giving people medication to relax them back into a normal state of being. Maybe you just don't know anyone that suffer from this problem but it's a sad thing to watch a friend that can be an amazing person 95% of the time flip out irrationally because something in their environment sets of a trigger in their brain for whatever reason. It's pretty baffling and it's certainly not someone being whiney or immature.

There are definitely a lot of people that would just rather milk sympathy by acting emotional they go out and get a hobby or make some new friends but at the same time some of the more irrational emotional types do have serious problems. It's a shame.

[Kuroda]

Do all emos actually have it that bad or do they the act and dress the way they do for attention?

[grim-diablo]

emos are evil and will kill us all while we sleep

[Purvis]

Sure, chemical imbalances are present, causes them to overreact, but, it's their fault. They choose to let these things bother them, it's their choice.

Sorry but that's a very ignorant comment to make. People with serious chemical imbalances don't "choose" to let things bother them. That's the whole point of giving people medication to relax them back into a normal state of being. Maybe you just don't know anyone that suffer from this problem but it's a sad thing to watch a friend that can be an amazing person 95% of the time flip out irrationally because something in their environment sets of a trigger in their brain for whatever reason. It's pretty baffling and it's certainly not someone being whiney or immature.

There are definitely a lot of people that would just rather milk sympathy by acting emotional they go out and get a hobby or make some new friends but at the same time some of the more irrational emotional types do have serious problems. It's a shame.

Actually, I do. My aunt pulled a gun on her son for a bad grade. Luckily she didn't know how to work the gun, and it was on safety. Oh, and she normally is a sweet, nice lady. But smoking too much weed has set a chemical imbalance in her brain, causing her to have the very problem you mention.

Sadly, this could have been corrected if she didn't believe grades were important, you know? Or if she didn't already have the picture of what her son should be, you know? It's that concept I'm trying to relay.

She wouldn't have flipped out if she didn't have her belief system set the way it is. It wouldn't have upset her. If this is an ongoing problem, that person can fix it, with effort. Our belief systems we adapt are our choice, even though it is initially made by our environment, on a subconscious level, we can change it if we see it is causing problems; like pulling guns on people.

Ignorance? No. I know people with this problem, and I've seen people master it, or fall victim to it. On a phsycological viewpoint, it's correctable, and is their choice. The chemical imbalance may still be there, but it's their own belief system that they follow, that triggers it their emotional mood swings or whatever.

[narutoIZZAbest]

Do all emos actually have it that bad or do they the act and dress the way they do for attention?

well that depends since its sorta like a trend-- but yes, some of them do have it bad.

[Itsumo]

You know, there is a new trend threat. Emo's have evolved.

They call them selves 'Scenesters' now. ;__;

They're far worse than any Emo...

[PhantomAlchemist]

emos are just hyper sensative people with adverse reactions, they are so pathetic. :roll:

[kjrav]

I shot an EMO in the face w/t a BB gun and he was like "Well my life is already pointless so go ahead and keep shooting me if you want" That is why I dislike EMO's they take all the fun out of life.

[zoldic777]

I"m stillnot understanding what emos are,Define them someone plz

[RBP]

evil little things that will kill us all and steal our bodies cause they are really short

[Purvis]

I"m stillnot understanding what emos are,Define them someone plz

http://emosong.ytmnd.com/

Just listen to the lyrics and look at the people.

[RBP]

emo song?nice 1:D
how did you find that?

[Purvis]

My emo sister showed me.

[Otome]

dude when i hear of emo i think of it as if we were germans hating on jews.

[Hime_sama]

well, since they have it so bad I don't think they deserve anymore hate from people. You guys should give them a break.

But other than that,.. I really don't think I hang out with any so I never really interacted with them.. probably not going to get to know anybody like that anytime soon.

Never really gave a thought about them. :|


they have bad lives???!!!!!!

you american and european kids have it bad? are you kidding me? you need to come down to central america, africa, india, asian countries, arab countries and see what bad lives really are!!! you make more money in your weekly alloance, than thousands of family men do in a month. and they have families to feed! EMOS have it bad!!! grrrrr.... plz, do slay them!!! this really makes me mad.

i'm on a program in my college were you recollect food all week and make small baskets. then, we head to the city bumpster. the thing is like 1 1/2 miles long. there are a hundred families living in that dumpster. we take this baskets to them, and they are soo grateful it makes you feel like sh*t! i mean, you have clean cloth, a roof, food everyday (just one meal) and a bed and you're the richest person in the world!! this people are so grateful for the iny bitty small basket we take! and you see them smiling, and saying thanks and inviting you into their carton house! you're not the same after seeing such scenes.

what's so bad about their life anyways! it's amazing how high your suicide rate is!!! you barely hear of suicides here!

why is your highschool life such a torture anyway! and don't they know there's life after it???

EMOS are just sad and pathetic!!!!! ungrateful, synical, idiotic, conforming kids who need a spanking. sorry, i have no sympathy for them. they deserve all the hating they've received!!!! GROW UP!
well i never said that they had it worse then the other kids in those other countries

the stereotype of the average emo is obviously self pity and self centered.
they did have it bad but they are making TOO BIG of a deal out of it. im not saying you should lower any of their pain.

i think that they just take emotional to another level which is why people are so annoyed with them... -- i think its been said before, its a trend

but then again, if you're gonna use that defense would you ever say to a friend that's down, "THESE KIDS IN OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE IT WORSE THAN YOU!!!" I think its just cuz they're emo and that's the usual reaction.

actually, being down and being emo is different. at least the emo ppl i know. being down is getting hurt, failing at something you work hard at and didnt work out, loosing someone, a fight with your fam or friends. in which case, i'll tell you to hang in there, i'll tell you it's not over, greater things are coming your way if you learn from your mistakes, or simply hear you out and be ther for you.

the emo ppl i know just want to be depressed! and seriously, they don't have it bad. and if they're winning and being down like all the time, i will tell them: plz, you are not going thru half of what others go thru, and you drown in a glass of water while others swim oceans! yes, i'll tell them; suck it up! and learn from this ppl that are struggling but keeping it together. if your life sucks that much, is prolly because you're a self-centered brat who thinks of yourself. start thinking about others. wanna feel better about your life? how about helping someone in need, how about investing your times in others instead of only you! you'll see how better you'll feel about your life when you stop being: what about me? what about me? what about me? and start seeing how you can make a difference in someone's life!

and it's not about charity or money, it's about being a friend to the friendless, a word of comfort, a shoulder to cry on, an ear that listens, a friend that loves!!!

sorry, still no sympathy for them. it's not lowering their pain! cuz self-pitty is self-inflicted pain!

[Kuchiki]

Is it ok for me to be down about how there are 4 posts of the same thing from my daughter?

[Mousie]

simple mistake :). ~delete extra posts~

[Purvis]

Is it ok for me to be down about how there are 4 posts of the same thing from my daughter?

SUCK IT UP

But yeah, it's ok to be down, but emo people really just want to be depressed, I agree with Mousie.

I like that term, drowning in a glass of water when others are swimming in oceans. That pretty much sums it up.

[ColdFire]

You know, there is a new trend threat. Emo's have evolved.

They call them selves 'Scenesters' now. ;__;

They're far worse than any Emo...

Actually scene and emo are totally different things. Scene kids are basically emos w/o as much of the depressed attitude, and they dress weird and crap. Theres actually alot of differences, but I'm too lazy for typing.

[Hime_sama]

Is it ok for me to be down about how there are 4 posts of the same thing from my daughter?

it wasn't me! it was my stupid pc!!! :cry: !!!
arigato sensei, for fixing the mistake!

[Colormestupid]

The worst thing about emos is their music. It sounds like they bring a cat into the studio, grab it by the balls and swing it around.

[Colormestupid]

The worst thing about emos is their music. It sounds like they bring a cat into the studio, grab it by the balls and swing it around.

[Fool Of Doom]

i give to the poor so i can go up to a hobo and say "you owe me 10 bucks

[Fool Of Doom]

i give to the poor so i can go up to a hobo and say "you owe me 10 bucks

[kakashihatakefan]

What the fuck is wrong with Emo people i have a ton of Emo friends and i am going goth and i am thinking about being Emo because i think they are cool and WTF did you say about therer music i collect CD's that they lissten too and i even spend most of my time with EMO's so dont say anything bad about EMO's because they are not that bad once you get to know them so shut your f***king mouth about the EMO! :evil:

[Masah]

What the f*** is wrong with Emo people i have a ton of Emo friends and i am going goth and i am thinking about being Emo because i think they are cool and WTF did you say about therer music i collect CD's that they lissten too and i even spend most of my time with EMO's so dont say anything bad about EMO's because they are not that bad once you get to know them so shut your f***king mouth about the EMO! :evil:


Don't ever tell ME what to do, I own you.

Emo is the music unrespected garbage on earth, and it's taking over the planet, and you're a weak minded foul if you're going to let it overcome you.

[Octo]

What the f*** is wrong with Emo people i have a ton of Emo friends and i am going goth and i am thinking about being Emo because i think they are cool and WTF did you say about therer music i collect CD's that they lissten too and i even spend most of my time with EMO's so dont say anything bad about EMO's because they are not that bad once you get to know them so shut your f***king mouth about the EMO! :evil:

How do you "go" goth? It's a mentality, not a fuckin sex change.

Emo people are tolerable, until you get the REAL Emo's, your friends sound scenesters. Emo people tend to non-stop bitch, I'm sorry but after the 16th conversation about no one noticing their "new hair" I BITE THEIR FACES OFF

[BloodySand]

What the f*** is wrong with Emo people i have a ton of Emo friends and i am going goth and i am thinking about being Emo because i think they are cool and WTF did you say about therer music i collect CD's that they lissten too and i even spend most of my time with EMO's so dont say anything bad about EMO's because they are not that bad once you get to know them so shut your f***king mouth about the EMO! :evil: if your gonna say f**king plz but the right amount of *'s

[grim-diablo]

what is a emo seriously

[Colormestupid]

And besides, they wear girl pants. :?

I think back to a time when everything was normal. Everyone was cool just like 4 years ago. Then I looked around the school only to find guys wearing girl pants, and dumb haircuts. Their is a terrible epidemic claiming our youth people.

[Octo]

Emo guys I hate


Emo girls I date.

[grim-diablo]

nice now... WHAT IS A EMO!

[ColdFire]

If we tell you, you'll explode. Yes, theyre that horrible.

Example of emo lyrics: "The ribbon on my wrist says do not open before christmas"

[NMK]

evil-overlord check the first page in this thread and youll find out

kakashihatakefan:

are you kidding me? dude wtf´s wrong with you , you havent met real emo´s if you like them, that is if your not an emo yourself.

[uchiha_melody]

..............please you guys .....dont punish me...*bows head*

isnt this enough your hurting me .....your ....*sob* hurting me....STOP IT STOP IT GAHHHHHH1 god ....stop punishing me!!!! am human.....bleeeeeh *cut cut* *tear tear*

*looks at emo BF* i cut myself just to feel you...yet you see through me...why...why.....why am .....Rejected ...

i want to fade....i want scream ....hel..p

[Anna Hatake]

i have alot of friends that are emo and my lifes worse than all of there's and i'm never complaining but their all like ohh my god i hope a car hits me or something like that....... their all kinda weired and they need to stfu really bad

[uchiha_melody]

i have alot of friends that are emo and my lifes worse than all of there's and i'm never complaining but their all like ohh my god i hope a car hits me or something like that....... their all kinda weired and they need to stfu really bad

i agree *nods* , i have some guy emo mates who are silly....my BF however.... Claims to be the Victam in everything.....yeah hes allways whining and bitching and stuff...about meh clothes, i mean i perosnaly Love Colorfull clothes...i like things that umm dont match like my socks right now...its so ...um fetch?! XDDDD

melo's Emo moment

*cuts her wrist as she cries the make up not covering the sinner she is , she knows none will save her from...herself, she knows that because she dosent feel anything*

XDDDDhahaha

[Bap]

dude when i hear of emo i think of it as if we were germans hating on jews.

Don't bring racism into this. Thats irrational. There are many valid reasons to hate emos. They're depressing to see. They escape reality and conform to a group that doesn't want to take responsibility whatsoever. They blame the world when it is themselves to blame. These people are the downfall and degradation of our society. Instead of confronting their problems, they hide behind their decadent music and haircuts. Go ahead and listen to that music if you want, but there is absolutely no reason to bend to their views on a whim.

I listen to metal, and some bands do talk about how this world is shitty (I don't think they have a real metal spirit). If you look at me, you would never suspect I'm a metalhead. I don't wear all black, I don't have long hair (although I wouldn't mind...seems convenient not to go to the haircut place). I do what is practical.

[Nova]

LOL! That was the best post I have EVER read! Bap! You are my new favorite member!

UUGGGHHH! And don't get me started on emo's.....they're depressing, have horrible fashion sense, they have horrible haircuts, and they look even gayer than gay people. Oh yeah! They listen to crappy music, that always puts you in a bad mood. In all honesty, I hate them. I think that they not only deserve to take crap from me, but enjoy it, because they like being depressed!

Don't worry! Be Happy!

[Hateful Vengeance]

I agree with bap here, the emos overdo it. all they do is bitch about how bad they're life is.

get over it.

not a big F***ing deal.

[uchiha_melody]

LOL LOL , thing is ....i ADORE PAnic! at the Disco,The used,MCR,from first to last etc XDDDDDDDD meh favorite groups actulay ^--^ SUE ME buggers!!!ku ku ku

[Octo]

LOL LOL , thing is ....i ADORE PAnic! at the Disco,The used,MCR,from first to last etc XDDDDDDDD meh favorite groups actulay ^--^ SUE ME buggers!!!ku ku ku

Well music is your choice, we don't like those bands, but we won't insult you for personal music taste.

[uchiha_melody]

LOL LOL , thing is ....i ADORE PAnic! at the Disco,The used,MCR,from first to last etc XDDDDDDDD meh favorite groups actulay ^--^ SUE ME buggers!!!ku ku ku

Well music is your choice, we don't like those bands, but we won't insult you for personal music taste.

OH *picks her nose* .....okay kewl with me

[Solace]

half my school are emo kids, so theyre wutever to me, hahaha

[Katzyn]

LOL LOL , thing is ....i ADORE PAnic! at the Disco,The used,MCR,from first to last etc XDDDDDDDD meh favorite groups actulay ^--^ SUE ME buggers!!!ku ku ku

*Kitty squeeeeee* Melody, I love you! *glomps Melo-chan* P!atd is one of my absolute favourite bands, and so is the Used! I love MCR, too! o_o

[narutoIZZAbest]

dude when i hear of emo i think of it as if we were germans hating on jews.

Don't bring racism into this. Thats irrational. There are many valid reasons to hate emos. They're depressing to see. They escape reality and conform to a group that doesn't want to take responsibility whatsoever. They blame the world when it is themselves to blame. These people are the downfall and degradation of our society. Instead of confronting their problems, they hide behind their decadent music and haircuts. Go ahead and listen to that music if you want, but there is absolutely no reason to bend to their views on a whim.

I listen to metal, and some bands do talk about how this world is shitty (I don't think they have a real metal spirit). If you look at me, you would never suspect I'm a metalhead. I don't wear all black, I don't have long hair (although I wouldn't mind...seems convenient not to go to the haircut place). I do what is practical.
The first part about an emo is true. I've met an "emo" before and he was not exactly your typical one. It's the "blend in with everyone else emo". It's the guy with super low self-esteem but cannot take responsibility. He's the guy who's too much of a wimp to do anything. -_-....... blah. I DATED HIM okay? couldn't stand it ... COULD NOT STAND it... go read my post in the love thread section for more detail...

and ummm... even after that.. I LOVE PANIC! AT THE DISCO, MCR, THE USED ETC. I LIKE THEIR STYLE! Does it make me emo cuz I like their music and fashion? -_- noooo

Being emo is a trend but yes, "real emos" do exist, I guess.

Oh and btw, you guys still have to have an open minded view instead of shunning these people all the time. Instead of insulting their interests and all go smack more positive ideas into skull -_-;;

[Bap]

It's because emos lack open-mindedness that we hate them. I never insulted their tastes in music. But liking the music, and conforming to the culture are two different things. The style is depressing. They cover their faces with their long hair, as fi they were hiding from normal culture.. It probably comforts them, and thats why they do it. Other emos will accept them if they do that. They need people to accept them because they are insecure.

[GoldGuardian]

Agreed. I can't even guess which songs are emo and which aren't anyway (I don't listen to the lyrics). At least emos that make music actually DO something, so that's ok with me.

I don't have much to say about emos, the only thing I noticed is that they're always looking at me and my friends when we pass nearby or when we're sitting near. They're looking at us the same way we look at them. Dunno why...

[narutoIZZAbest]

Acceptance? THERE'S A BUNCH OF EMOS.... they're pretty "accepted" imo.

I think I've said it before... but its a trend thing.

Oh and one thing about the music-- Hawthorne Heights is considered an "emo band" but it doesn't contain suicidal lyrics.

[Fool Of Doom]

meh emos are kinda anoying imo

[Jonny_extreme]

I seriously hate emos with all my heart and soul...

and this is why

http://attentionemokids.ytmnd.com/

[kjrav]

Emos?Meh,I don't really care for them but I don't really dislike them either.I have a friend who is an Emo and well he's like Meh so I ignore it, so yeah.MEH!

[Last-Crusader]

and ummm... even after that.. I LOVE PANIC! AT THE DISCO, MCR, THE USED ETC. I LIKE THEIR STYLE! Does it make me emo cuz I like their music and fashion? -_- noooo

Being emo is a trend but yes, "real emos" do exist, I guess.


Yup i agree with the whole "Emo is Trend and music and fashion" atleast thats how i see it anyway...and well i wont deny that its perosnalymy current style but i aint depressed or anything...

[uchiha_melody]

and ummm... even after that.. I LOVE PANIC! AT THE DISCO, MCR, THE USED ETC. I LIKE THEIR STYLE! Does it make me emo cuz I like their music and fashion? -_- noooo

Being emo is a trend but yes, "real emos" do exist, I guess.


Yup i agree with the whole "Emo is Trend and music and fashion" atleast thats how i see it anyway...and well i wont deny that its perosnalymy current style but i aint depressed or anything...

OMGGG hes emo keeeel him!!!!j/k <3

[lonewonder08]

Emo's have no reason to complain and should really stop bitching. I got a friend who has real problems at home but he still goes to school with a smile on his face.

[Nova]

Ok. I am an insecure guy, But I am not emo. I do what normal people do and bottle up my feeling till I get stomach ulcers....just kidding. But honestly I have no problem with the music, I do think it sucks, just can't stand whiny voiced morons who think that their opinion matters *cough* Green Day *cough*. Emo kids are sad and depressed and they try to drag everyone else down with them. And I promise the next time I hear one whine about society and "conformists" I will leap onto their desk and beat the living shit out of them. And no I'm not closed minded, I live Texas I'm not rascist or homophobic, so I think I have a right to say I'm pretty open-minded. But when someone bitches about the conforming society it's so fucking hypocritical! It's like,"Are you not conforming to the emo culture? Do you think because you wear black you're not conforming? Well guess what dipshit! YOU ARE!" I hate emo kids! They are scenesters! They follow a scene, and I guarantee when that scene dies they will hop to another one like emo kids didn't exist. And thing I don't like about the music is that they started it. Don't be Emo like Nemo! Listen to Ska or Metal....your choice!

[kjrav]

They may give off a depressing aura butit's your own fault for letting it effect you so adversly.If someone is depressed you shouldn't nesscarily pity them but that gives no reason to scorn or dislike them.Even though Emo is a style that dosn't mean the majority of the Emo society is in it for the style and not the actual outlook.Do you really know any Emo's well enough to say"oh he's just in it to be cool looking".All Emo is is an outlook on life.I personally don't like the Republican outlook/policies butthat dosn't mean I badmouth them at every turn or will beat the hell out of one of them next time I hear them speak there polocies.I'll just ignore them.

[Bap]

They may give off a depressing aura butit's your own fault for letting it effect you so adversly.If someone is depressed you shouldn't nesscarily pity them but that gives no reason to scorn or dislike them.Even though Emo is a style that dosn't mean the majority of the Emo society is in it for the style and not the actual outlook.Do you really know any Emo's well enough to say"oh he's just in it to be cool looking".All Emo is is an outlook on life.I personally don't like the Republican outlook/policies butthat dosn't mean I badmouth them at every turn or will beat the hell out of one of them next time I hear them speak there polocies.I'll just ignore them.

It is a reason to dislike them. Outlook, style, or both, it's still conforming to another group of people and their ways. And if you really do believe their idealogies, fine. But does that mean you have to wear skinny pants and red hair over your face? Does that mean you have to listen to their music? No, it doesn't. If you're in it to just belong, then you're just a conforming pissant. I have the right to criticize emos, republicans, democrats, and pissants, so as long as I have that right, I will continue to feed you my opinion in response to yours.

[KageNaruto]

They may give off a depressing aura butit's your own fault for letting it effect you so adversly.If someone is depressed you shouldn't nesscarily pity them but that gives no reason to scorn or dislike them.Even though Emo is a style that dosn't mean the majority of the Emo society is in it for the style and not the actual outlook.Do you really know any Emo's well enough to say"oh he's just in it to be cool looking".All Emo is is an outlook on life.I personally don't like the Republican outlook/policies butthat dosn't mean I badmouth them at every turn or will beat the hell out of one of them next time I hear them speak there polocies.I'll just ignore them.

It is a reason to dislike them. Outlook, style, or both, it's still conforming to another group of people and their ways. And if you really do believe their idealogies, fine. But does that mean you have to wear skinny pants and red hair over your face? Does that mean you have to listen to their music? No, it doesn't. If you're in it to just belong, then you're just a conforming pissant. I have the right to criticize emos, republicans, democrats, and pissants, so as long as I have that right, I will continue to feed you my opinion in response to yours.

but being gay is a reaosn to dislike gay people, but most people got over that.

even though i hate emo people as well lol, i couldnt help but make that comparison on this thread

[narutoIZZAbest]

@TNova- Green Day is NOT emo music =/

anyways yea ppl can be insecure without being emo. but yanno, i keep sayin' IT'S A TREND. there are some REAL "emos" out there who don't follow the fashion at all. =P

[Bap]

They may give off a depressing aura butit's your own fault for letting it effect you so adversly.If someone is depressed you shouldn't nesscarily pity them but that gives no reason to scorn or dislike them.Even though Emo is a style that dosn't mean the majority of the Emo society is in it for the style and not the actual outlook.Do you really know any Emo's well enough to say"oh he's just in it to be cool looking".All Emo is is an outlook on life.I personally don't like the Republican outlook/policies butthat dosn't mean I badmouth them at every turn or will beat the hell out of one of them next time I hear them speak there polocies.I'll just ignore them.

It is a reason to dislike them. Outlook, style, or both, it's still conforming to another group of people and their ways. And if you really do believe their idealogies, fine. But does that mean you have to wear skinny pants and red hair over your face? Does that mean you have to listen to their music? No, it doesn't. If you're in it to just belong, then you're just a conforming pissant. I have the right to criticize emos, republicans, democrats, and pissants, so as long as I have that right, I will continue to feed you my opinion in response to yours.

but being gay is a reaosn to dislike gay people, but most people got over that.

even though i hate emo people as well lol, i couldnt help but make that comparison on this thread

Not entirely true. Thats just sexual preference. You don'thear of too many people becoming gay because they want to fit in. Those that follow a trend are merely conforming. They give up any individualism they may have had.

[kjrav]

Actually quite a few people become gay or act wht th public/media veiws gay as since it such a "trend" now days.

[Bap]

ok, a -few- might do that. They are no better than emos.

[kjrav]

Nope quite a bit more than a "few". My sister is Bi and she has told me that almost 2/4 of the gays she meets really arn't gay.(And she has meet quite a few gays)

[narutoIZZAbest]

so BASICALLY they are conforming but their mindset isn't really gay, so to speak.

[Pepe Toño]

dudes Emo is cool

[KageNaruto]

dudes Emo is cool

you better be joking or else youre a moron. and im not taking this comment back, i mean it.

[kjrav]

so BASICALLY they are conforming but their mindset isn't really gay, so to speak.

Yeah, I guess it's like there in it for the fashion sense and b/c it's such atreny thing but they don't actually have the sexual preference.Like being Metro-sexual but going a little bit over the line.

[Chidongan]

im not metro, right?

i have my own style and everything.

personally i could care less about emo people. they can do whatever the hell they want, im not gonna bother with them, same as i am with all other people. i hate it when people just join a single groups and follow their fashion they're choice of music, and everything.

im not trying to put myself on a pedestal or anything, but i seriously try to be original. i follow my own fashion sense, if i like a song, whether it be rap, rock, or pop, i will listen to it.

but if you happen to really like the way this certain groups of people dress or the music they listen to then go ahead its your life do w/e you want.

[Nova]

They may give off a depressing aura butit's your own fault for letting it effect you so adversly.If someone is depressed you shouldn't nesscarily pity them but that gives no reason to scorn or dislike them.Even though Emo is a style that dosn't mean the majority of the Emo society is in it for the style and not the actual outlook.Do you really know any Emo's well enough to say"oh he's just in it to be cool looking".All Emo is is an outlook on life.I personally don't like the Republican outlook/policies butthat dosn't mean I badmouth them at every turn or will beat the hell out of one of them next time I hear them speak there polocies.I'll just ignore them.

How is it my fault that the put out a depressing aura? Haven't you heard the saying,"A bad apple spoils the whole bunch"? I'm not saying they are bad people or anything like that, I'm just using it as a comparison. When people are sad, they make others sad, who then make other's sad. It's a domino effect. Emo's deserve scorn simply because they act like they want it. Honestly, who cuts their wrists? That is asking for ridicule, yeah it's sad, but really, it's stupid, and that's what people are going to tell you, in more hurtful terms most likely. Being sad is one thing, everyone knows the pain of sadness, and some even know of flat out depression, but do they cut themselves? Not many, I can tell you that from personal experience, nor do they conform to a group of hypocritical scenesters. And if you don't think Emo's are scenester's, you are one stupid moron, and you are blind. Being Emo is a trend, it's different from being Emotional, which they say that's all they are. But in reality being Emo and "EmotionaL" is 2 very different things. So before you defend Emo's and bring in this political nonsense you think will help your arguement, remember this....they are stupid scenester's conforming to the group that they feel is coolest at this current moment in musical history. So I feel we should just hate the Emo, till it dissappears, because we need Emo's as much as we need West Nile Virus carrying Mosquitoes.

[KageNaruto]

YES, scars from battle or some other sort of injuries = sexy

emo scars = turn off.

[narutoIZZAbest]

They may give off a depressing aura butit's your own fault for letting it effect you so adversly.If someone is depressed you shouldn't nesscarily pity them but that gives no reason to scorn or dislike them.Even though Emo is a style that dosn't mean the majority of the Emo society is in it for the style and not the actual outlook.Do you really know any Emo's well enough to say"oh he's just in it to be cool looking".All Emo is is an outlook on life.I personally don't like the Republican outlook/policies butthat dosn't mean I badmouth them at every turn or will beat the hell out of one of them next time I hear them speak there polocies.I'll just ignore them.

How is it my fault that the put out a depressing aura? Haven't you heard the saying,"A bad apple spoils the whole bunch"? I'm not saying they are bad people or anything like that, I'm just using it as a comparison. When people are sad, they make others sad, who then make other's sad. It's a domino effect. Emo's deserve scorn simply because they act like they want it. Honestly, who cuts their wrists? That is asking for ridicule, yeah it's sad, but really, it's stupid, and that's what people are going to tell you, in more hurtful terms most likely. Being sad is one thing, everyone knows the pain of sadness, and some even know of flat out depression, but do they cut themselves? Not many, I can tell you that from personal experience, nor do they conform to a group of hypocritical scenesters. And if you don't think Emo's are scenester's, you are one stupid moron, and you are blind. Being Emo is a trend, it's different from being Emotional, which they say that's all they are. But in reality being Emo and "EmotionaL" is 2 very different things. So before you defend Emo's and bring in this political nonsense you think will help your arguement, remember this....they are stupid scenester's conforming to the group that they feel is coolest at this current moment in musical history. So I feel we should just hate the Emo, till it dissappears, because we need Emo's as much as we need West Nile Virus carrying Mosquitoes.

actually what he says is pretty true.-- if you don't like it, ignore it. don't make a big fuss over a disapproval. this does present some things-- that some emos aren't in it for a trend and whatnot and that it truly is their outlook on life. no matter how you disagree with their methods of dealing with it -- it's the way they are.

yes, it can get political to a point. because republicans and democrats have different outlooks on life.-- different groups of people have their own outlook.

I actually think that these people need help and support to get out of their position (though I've tried... they ARE very difficult.... and frustrating to persuade -_-). And in my personal opinion, they can be very annoying. But then again, I'm not stating that they ARE. They are many ways to put that out.

If you guys keep pushing them down-- "oh yes, let's kill the emos" then you're not really thinking deeply into their point of view, right?

EDIT:So? we don't need all those sports teams.

[Nova]

So Izza? You'd like us to view life from the perspective of a sad scenester that only dresses a certain way to be cool?

And the reason you can't help them is because they don't want help! They are Emo, it is their thing to act sad and depressed. It's this has nothing to do with political stand points, and if you think it does I thought too much of you. Most Emo people are not sad but do it because they want attention from some group of people. Sometimes when one lies to themselves, the things they believe actually begin to come true. Example, Emo's look at life from a pessimistic, sad point of view, therefore, after so many months/years of doing this they actually become what they were pretending to be. This may seem odd, but it does happen quite often. I'm not saying Emo's are crazy or anything, but when the mind acts a role for so long, it will begin to interpret that as reality. Emo's shouldn't be killed, I don't believe in that, as you so bluntly put it. I think they should get help, or at least want it, or shut the hell up.

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

im not metro, right?

i have my own style and everything.

personally i could care less about emo people. they can do whatever the hell they want, im not gonna bother with them, same as i am with all other people. i hate it when people just join a single groups and follow their fashion they're choice of music, and everything.

im not trying to put myself on a pedestal or anything, but i seriously try to be original. i follow my own fashion sense, if i like a song, whether it be rap, rock, or pop, i will listen to it.

but if you happen to really like the way this certain groups of people dress or the music they listen to then go ahead its your life do w/e you want.

i feel you.but believe it or not i live in the hood.so basicaly i'm typicaly should be dressing like i live in the hood or wear all the hip hop gear.yea i do.and i chill with ppl who be selling drugs and shottin at ppl.but i do find other things intresting.shit i listen to all types of music rap,hi hop,pop,reggae,r&b,rock,heavy metal.and yes i still even watch a lil bit of cartoons and this anime stuff.but i just learn to adapt to diffferent enviroments.like here if i talk how i talk in the streets i would be banned.but i don't i just readjust my thinking and stuff and talk like a anime lover or w/e.but yea man i be myself but i do act different on certain occasions.

[narutoIZZAbest]

So Izza? You'd like us to view life from the perspective of a sad scenester that only dresses a certain way to be cool?

And the reason you can't help them is because they don't want help! They are Emo, it is their thing to act sad and depressed. It's this has nothing to do with political stand points, and if you think it does I thought too much of you. Most Emo people are not sad but do it because they want attention from some group of people. Sometimes when one lies to themselves, the things they believe actually begin to come true. Example, Emo's look at life from a pessimistic, sad point of view, therefore, after so many months/years of doing this they actually become what they were pretending to be. This may seem odd, but it does happen quite often. I'm not saying Emo's are crazy or anything, but when the mind acts a role for so long, it will begin to interpret that as reality. Emo's shouldn't be killed, I don't believe in that, as you so bluntly put it. I think they should get help, or at least want it, or shut the hell up.

There are two reasons why I'm standing up for them even though they annoy the hell out of me as well.

#1: Don't be so personal about it. It's only an OPINION and you do not know for a fact that these people are the kind of people you think they are. It could be the media's idea that you're following. I could've been considered emo back then but who you have called me all those names? Don't resort to that. Be very logical about it (not saying fully that you arent') but I'm saying that logic doesn't need to be mixed with insults are quick judgements.

Again about being personal-- "as you so blunty put it". Is it because I am arguing against your messages of hate that you attack me in such a way too? There's more personal attacks against me as well.

#2 If you have never been emo don't say stuff like-- "oh yes, they do this to follow the media-- ONLY CUZ of that!" etc.
I've been one and I must say that the group is somewhat divided, I believe. Though I don't dress like them or anything.

EDIT: politics are brought up because it presents two very different groups of people. different viewpoints , is all. it is not that political-- i was just trying to show you kjrav's interpretation.

[Nova]

Do you honestly believe that Emo's are just a group of people that conjured themselves out of nowhere? And Emo's and "Emotional" are 2 different things if you're still gettin' at that. I honestly don't care what you think. I know for a fact that Emo's are just scenester's to a style. That is fact Izza, you cannot deny that, and if you say that it's divided, then you're still thinking Emo and being emotional are the same things.

[narutoIZZAbest]

There you go again making personal attacks-- never once in this whole debate have I ridiculed you in any way.

I do not think that Emo and emotional are the same things--that's why I said they must be divided. You aren't one of them-- and thus you cannot say for sure except from the media's viewpoints.

Not caring what I think? What do you think this is? It's not a simple hate thread. I'm sure you'll say you know as well. But I'm one with a different viewpoint and I didn't expect that my opinions be considered trash to someone who disagrees with my perspective.

[Octo]

Do you honestly believe that Emo's are just a group of people that conjured themselves out of nowhere? And Emo's and "Emotional" are 2 different things if you're still gettin' at that. I honestly don't care what you think. I know for a fact that Emo's are just scenester's to a style. That is fact Izza, you cannot deny that, and if you say that it's divided, then you're still thinking Emo and being emotional are the same things.

Dude, should I make a topic now about "closed minded people"?

You're arguing T Nova on the basic principle of "ALL THESE PEOPLE LOOK LIKE THEY FIT UNDER THIS LABEL, SO THEY MUST ALL ACT/TALK THE EXACT SAME WAY"

And you know "for a fact" emos are just scenesters? Some are, some aren't. What the fuck is your fact? That you asked one? or maybe one scenester group and generalized again?

"you cannot deny that"

Yes, yes we can. Freedom of expression.

You honestly act T Nova as if all scenesters have gone emo. Jesus, I could name tons of scenesters I know who took up gothic, jock, and preppie. Every "label" has every type of person in it. I too was emo for a little awhile, I never got to cutting but I was mainly upset over girls. I got past this phase and found it to be a critical learning point in what I now know today as my outlook on life.

I still don't see why you're so anti-them. Yes depression causes other people to be depressed, if they let it. You have the choice to ignore, and pick who you associate with.

Now, just incase my topic seemed a little flamatory, I apologize, close-mindedness tends to make me seem very angry, while I'm actually just out of bed and sippin mah apple juice.

[Chidongan]

im not metro, right?

i have my own style and everything.

personally i could care less about emo people. they can do whatever the hell they want, im not gonna bother with them, same as i am with all other people. i hate it when people just join a single groups and follow their fashion they're choice of music, and everything.

im not trying to put myself on a pedestal or anything, but i seriously try to be original. i follow my own fashion sense, if i like a song, whether it be rap, rock, or pop, i will listen to it.

but if you happen to really like the way this certain groups of people dress or the music they listen to then go ahead its your life do w/e you want.

i feel you.but believe it or not i live in the hood.so basicaly i'm typicaly should be dressing like i live in the hood or wear all the hip hop gear.yea i do.and i chill with ppl who be selling drugs and shottin at ppl.but i do find other things intresting.crap i listen to all types of music rap,hi hop,pop,reggae,r&b,rock,heavy metal.and yes i still even watch a lil bit of cartoons and this anime stuff.but i just learn to adapt to diffferent enviroments.like here if i talk how i talk in the streets i would be banned.but i don't i just readjust my thinking and stuff and talk like a anime lover or w/e.but yea man i be myself but i do act different on certain occasions.

well yeah i get where you're comming from.
but in the society where i grew up (mostly school), i could do w/e i wanted.
i was lucky enough to have friends who didnt care how i dressed.
hell i even started whering pink and purple shirts.
not becuase im gay. >.>
but becuase i happen to like those colors, and people know me well enough to realize that i can be free with my style of dressing.
same thing for my choice in music.

[Lost Prophet]

im not metro, right?

i have my own style and everything.

personally i could care less about emo people. they can do whatever the hell they want, im not gonna bother with them, same as i am with all other people. i hate it when people just join a single groups and follow their fashion they're choice of music, and everything.

im not trying to put myself on a pedestal or anything, but i seriously try to be original. i follow my own fashion sense, if i like a song, whether it be rap, rock, or pop, i will listen to it.

but if you happen to really like the way this certain groups of people dress or the music they listen to then go ahead its your life do w/e you want.


this, here, is actually how I think. If people want to be that way, let them. also, for us to be ourselves, that is important, since lately, all we have been doing is following other trends and leaders, never being ourselves. This seems to be a bad way to be, but if people are going to do it, I wont bother them about it.

[Nova]

Do you honestly believe that Emo's are just a group of people that conjured themselves out of nowhere? And Emo's and "Emotional" are 2 different things if you're still gettin' at that. I honestly don't care what you think. I know for a fact that Emo's are just scenester's to a style. That is fact Izza, you cannot deny that, and if you say that it's divided, then you're still thinking Emo and being emotional are the same things.

Dude, should I make a topic now about "closed minded people"?

You're arguing T Nova on the basic principle of "ALL THESE PEOPLE LOOK LIKE THEY FIT UNDER THIS LABEL, SO THEY MUST ALL ACT/TALK THE EXACT SAME WAY"

And you know "for a fact" emos are just scenesters? Some are, some aren't. What the f*** is your fact? That you asked one? or maybe one scenester group and generalized again?

"you cannot deny that"

Yes, yes we can. Freedom of expression.

You honestly act T Nova as if all scenesters have gone emo. Jesus, I could name tons of scenesters I know who took up gothic, jock, and preppie. Every "label" has every type of person in it. I too was emo for a little awhile, I never got to cutting but I was mainly upset over girls. I got past this phase and found it to be a critical learning point in what I now know today as my outlook on life.

I still don't see why you're so anti-them. Yes depression causes other people to be depressed, if they let it. You have the choice to ignore, and pick who you associate with.

Now, just incase my topic seemed a little flamatory, I apologize, close-mindedness tends to make me seem very angry, while I'm actually just out of bed and sippin mah apple juice.

If Emo's aren't scenesters, then explain to me why you have to dress in black tight clothing, die your hair, and wear in a retarded way to be Emotional? If all being emo means is emotional, and these people aren't just scenesters trying to make a place for themselves, then tell me what they are? Can you give me a definition of an Emo kid that doesn't involve wearing black, dieing their hair, and cutting themselves? I'm not close-minded, but to me that's just being a scenester. I just don't see anything deeper about being "emo" than wearing stupid clothing, listening to shitty music, and dieing your hair. In my eyes, if someone is emotional, they don't have to be "emo", "emo" is just something that the music industry created and are trying to cash in, that's it. If someone is emotional they are emotional, they aren't emo, they're just themselves. Emo is a music scene, if you can't understand what I'm saying then you're stupid. And true some "emo" people are emotional and real, but they are still buying into a scene, that they obviously can't see is just trying to take their money.

[Octo]

Do you honestly believe that Emo's are just a group of people that conjured themselves out of nowhere? And Emo's and "Emotional" are 2 different things if you're still gettin' at that. I honestly don't care what you think. I know for a fact that Emo's are just scenester's to a style. That is fact Izza, you cannot deny that, and if you say that it's divided, then you're still thinking Emo and being emotional are the same things.

Dude, should I make a topic now about "closed minded people"?

You're arguing T Nova on the basic principle of "ALL THESE PEOPLE LOOK LIKE THEY FIT UNDER THIS LABEL, SO THEY MUST ALL ACT/TALK THE EXACT SAME WAY"

And you know "for a fact" emos are just scenesters? Some are, some aren't. What the f*** is your fact? That you asked one? or maybe one scenester group and generalized again?

"you cannot deny that"

Yes, yes we can. Freedom of expression.

You honestly act T Nova as if all scenesters have gone emo. Jesus, I could name tons of scenesters I know who took up gothic, jock, and preppie. Every "label" has every type of person in it. I too was emo for a little awhile, I never got to cutting but I was mainly upset over girls. I got past this phase and found it to be a critical learning point in what I now know today as my outlook on life.

I still don't see why you're so anti-them. Yes depression causes other people to be depressed, if they let it. You have the choice to ignore, and pick who you associate with.

Now, just incase my topic seemed a little flamatory, I apologize, close-mindedness tends to make me seem very angry, while I'm actually just out of bed and sippin mah apple juice.

If Emo's aren't scenesters, then explain to me why you have to dress in black tight clothing, die your hair, and wear in a retarded way to be Emotional? If all being emo means is emotional, and these people aren't just scenesters trying to make a place for themselves, then tell me what they are? Can you give me a definition of an Emo kid that doesn't involve wearing black, dieing their hair, and cutting themselves? I'm not close-minded, but to me that's just being a scenester. I just don't see anything deeper about being "emo" than wearing stupid clothing, listening to shitty music, and dieing your hair. In my eyes, if someone is emotional, they don't have to be "emo", "emo" is just something that the music industry created and are trying to cash in, that's it. If someone is emotional they are emotional, they aren't emo, they're just themselves. Emo is a music scene, if you can't understand what I'm saying then you're stupid. And true some "emo" people are emotional and real, but they are still buying into a scene, that they obviously can't see is just trying to take their money.

Again you and the personal bash's, flamatory much?


"If Emo's aren't scenesters, then explain to me why you have to dress in black tight clothing, die your hair, and wear in a retarded way to be Emotional?"

First off Emo stands for Emotive, as in the music. Not emotional. And secondly, allow me to alter this quote to show YOU the pure retardness behind it.

"If Goth's aren't scenesters, then explain to me why you have to dress in black clothing, die your hair or spike it, and wear lots of jewellry to be Satanic?"

Dude, under EVERYTHING you've said. You seem anti-clique. Not anti-emo. Everyone that isn't an individual to you, is an emo scenester... You honestly just need to shut the fuck up when it comes to all your generalizations. I personally haven't seen you make one good point besides your own thick minded "facts" and threats saying basically if I don't see your views I surely must be deemed "Stupid"

edit: and yes Emo is a music scene. So is Rocker, Gothic Rocker, and Punk, why don't you hate them???? They just dress the way their favourite bands do, SAME FUCKIN THING.

[narutoIZZAbest]

thank you, Octo.

i felt on uneven ground back there.

anyways, everything has already been said. Believe them if you will but don't present your generalizations as facts.

[Nova]

Well think what you think. I see all of those people that by into the music scene as stupid. Maybe in your eyes that is being close-minded, but to me it's just how I see it. I am a little anti-clique, we don't have cliques at my school, of course people hang out together, but not all of them are jocks, preps, or outcasts. People should just be themselves, instead of trying to impress people with how cool you look in your clothing that looks exactly like your favorite bands. If you think that my views, that people should be themselves and not try to follow a certain group are close-minded, then what does that make you? Close-minded.

[Octo]

Well think what you think. I see all of those people that by into the music scene as stupid. Maybe in your eyes that is being close-minded, but to me it's just how I see it. I am a little anti-clique, we don't have cliques at my school, of course people hang out together, but not all of them are jocks, preps, or outcasts. People should just be themselves, instead of trying to impress people with how cool you look in your clothing that looks exactly like your favorite bands. If you think that my views, that people should be themselves and not try to follow a certain group are close-minded, then what does that make you? Close-minded.

Finally you made some sense. Ok not much to argue with you here, however try not to view the people who dress like their music "stupid". I understand if they do it to look EXACTLY like a band member. Which should only be done on Halloween :P.

However, if I'm watching AFI and I go "omg I love his hair" I'd grow an emo bang. This doesn't make me some moronic kid trying to follow a trend. Just a fan of the style. Half of my clothes are Marilyn Manson and Misfits inspired. This doesn't mean I fit into or try to go to cliques, just gothic people are nice to me because they seem to relate to my clothing.

Glad you finally made sense T Nova :D

[kjrav]

T Nova your form of hatred and discrimination is no different then thats shown in racial discrimination.The same way some people are racsist you have become an Emoist (I made that word up I am so awesome :) ) .Your fellings are based merely on the fact that they are different from you b/c in your definition of a trend you follow one and they don't.So what if they are following a trend?Does that effect you in any way?No not really, it affecs you b/c you let it not b/c it has to.But in my opinion if the ive of a depressing aura, they are 9/10 times really depressed or sad.Depression is not something that comes about from following a trend and if anything you hatred and spite towrds them makes the depression worse and in turn makes them want to be an emo even more in a sense.If you really wanted to put and end to them you'd try to help them escape their depression and reach a better situation.

[Nova]

kjrav....depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain, you should never compare emo kids to people with depression, I will hurt you kjrav. Alot of people suffer from depression, and in all honesty it is a disease that plagues my family. It is a very sad thing, and one of the many reasons that emo kids piss me off. When someone is acting like they have depression to fit into a clique, do you really think that that's morally right to do? It's not. I have a friend who could be described as emo or gothic, and I honestly hate it when she tries to compare her emotional problems to one who suffers from depression. If any of you can see what I'm trying to get at with this post, then I thank you for understanding. People with depression is not something to make any trend out of. Kjrav, I've seen what depression is and what it does to the people around you, it's not something that makes you cut or do anything of the sort, it's an honest to God mental illness and it makes people crazy. It is not something to be made into a fad, I for one find it almost insulting whenever I see someone "pretending" to have it. So again, if you see why I hate the emo "trend" (I don't hate the people, I don't believe in hating people before I know who they are) then you can see it's not because I'm a total asshole douche.

[Octo]

kjrav....depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain, you should never compare emo kids to people with depression, I will hurt you kjrav. Alot of people suffer from depression, and in all honesty it is a disease that plagues my family. It is a very sad thing, and one of the many reasons that emo kids piss me off. When someone is acting like they have depression to fit into a clique, do you really think that that's morally right to do? It's not. I have a friend who could be described as emo or gothic, and I honestly hate it when she tries to compare her emotional problems to one who suffers from depression. If any of you can see what I'm trying to get at with this post, then I thank you for understanding. People with depression is not something to make any trend out of. Kjrav, I've seen what depression is and what it does to the people around you, it's not something that makes you cut or do anything of the sort, it's an honest to God mental illness and it makes people crazy. It is not something to be made into a fad, I for one find it almost insulting whenever I see someone "pretending" to have it. So again, if you see why I hate the emo "trend" (I don't hate the people, I don't believe in hating people before I know who they are) then you can see it's not because I'm a total asshole douche.

You made sense here, but you also have to realize Depression being scientifically denied as "A chemical imbalance" isn't the right way to put it. I could watch my parents and entire family be shot in front of me, I will become depressed. This would have nothing to do with chemicals. Plus it's hard for you to tell who's faking or not, so don't so easily dismiss people just because they look emo and are depressed.

One of my (now) closest friends always seemed depressed, when called emo, she would cry. Everyone thought her to be just a sissy emo. When I met her, we became great friends and I found out her father beat her, which always made her depressed. And then fucking pricks who instantly hated or hit emo's like you've claimed to T Nova made her life a living hell.

[kjrav]

kjrav....depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain, you should never compare emo kids to people with depression, I will hurt you kjrav. Alot of people suffer from depression, and in all honesty it is a disease that plagues my family. It is a very sad thing, and one of the many reasons that emo kids piss me off. When someone is acting like they have depression to fit into a clique, do you really think that that's morally right to do? It's not. I have a friend who could be described as emo or gothic, and I honestly hate it when she tries to compare her emotional problems to one who suffers from depression. If any of you can see what I'm trying to get at with this post, then I thank you for understanding. People with depression is not something to make any trend out of. Kjrav, I've seen what depression is and what it does to the people around you, it's not something that makes you cut or do anything of the sort, it's an honest to God mental illness and it makes people crazy. It is not something to be made into a fad, I for one find it almost insulting whenever I see someone "pretending" to have it. So again, if you see why I hate the emo "trend" (I don't hate the people, I don't believe in hating people before I know who they are) then you can see it's not because I'm a total asshole douche.


T Nova I fully understand what depression is.My family suffers from alot.My Uncle got into a depressed state and froze to death in his apartment.My cousin who I was extremely close to got depressed and drank himself to death.My mother is currently going throuh a depression from divorce to from my father.She drinks and yells at me, I've had to sit at at my sisters house while my brother ad two other sisters had to stop her from committing suicide.I have personally been thrown into a depresive state that w/t out my friends support and help from my guidance counselor would probally still be in.My family suffers from extreme depression and alcoholism.I fully understand depression so I know that it's not somthing you can look at a person or persons and say "He/she/they is/are pretending" b/c depression comes in so many forms.That s why I feel that you should never mistreat a Emo or anyone even if you think they are faking a serious thing.Because one day you'll pick the wrong person who really is depressesd and could potentially harm them or worse.And even if you pick a person to give your scorn to and end up pushing them into a depressive state.

[Hellchild915]

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f19/hellchild915/myspace3ip.jpg

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Lol, funny, and omg, long time no see Hellchild, u seem to like emo people a lot, lol!

[narutoIZZAbest]

Well think what you think. I see all of those people that by into the music scene as stupid. Maybe in your eyes that is being close-minded, but to me it's just how I see it. I am a little anti-clique, we don't have cliques at my school, of course people hang out together, but not all of them are jocks, preps, or outcasts. People should just be themselves, instead of trying to impress people with how cool you look in your clothing that looks exactly like your favorite bands. If you think that my views, that people should be themselves and not try to follow a certain group are close-minded, then what does that make you? Close-minded.
You know to be yourself you don't necessarily have to look 'normal'. :?

[Nova]

Well I disagree with you kjrav. I'm sorry you have a family plagued by depression, but I too know that pain. You may see emo's and say,"Hey, he's sad and I related to that.", but I see an emo and say,"Hey, that faggot is playing on a disease that he doesn't really have, and that pisses me off." So you can't say my way of looking at it is technically "wrong", and I can't say you are "wrong" for how you see them. But I know some emo kids and the ones I've talked to I don't believe come anywhere close to having depression, and that really pisses me off. So if you think I'm wrong for what I see then so be it, but I don't care.

[superkhanh0]

dude get off these poeple's nuts, yall been talkin about them for 9 pages lol

[Nova]

Khanh, because of how tight they wear their pants, I don't even think they have nuts.....Seriously their nuts have been worn away by the friction the black jeans when they walk.

[Octo]

Well I disagree with you kjrav. I'm sorry you have a family plagued by depression, but I too know that pain. You may see emo's and say,"Hey, he's sad and I related to that.", but I see an emo and say,"Hey, that faggot is playing on a disease that he doesn't really have, and that pisses me off." So you can't say my way of looking at it is technically "wrong", and I can't say you are "wrong" for how you see them. But I know some emo kids and the ones I've talked to I don't believe come anywhere close to having depression, and that really pisses me off. So if you think I'm wrong for what I see then so be it, but I don't care.

So because they're not sad enough you get angered? You instantly think "faggot" using gay derogatory terms?


Take a fuckin chill pill, and here I was thinkin you were starting to make sense.

[narutoIZZAbest]

Yanno, remember how i said it was a trend before? emo is a style. some people don't even fake bein' depressed.

[Nova]

Octo you need to take a chill pill, I will use derogatory terms as much as I like. It's my right as a US citizen. And what if I do use that term, what does it matter to you? I know gay people and they are perfectly fine with me using those words, and if you have a problem with it you need to calm down. And Izza I understand that some of them are actually depressed or have depression. But I doubt it's the majority of them. If a person has depression I have no right to judge them and I will change my views to see them otherwise, but if they are just acting sad, to be in that group, I highly disapprove of it. And who am I to tell them what to do? No one, but still, it is my opinion and does it really matter what other's think of my opinion? No it doesn't because that's what matter's to me.

[V.VELDANEN]

Octo you need to take a chill pill, I will use derogatory terms as much as I like. It's my right as a US citizen. And what if I do use that term, what does it matter to you? I know gay people and they are perfectly fine with me using those words, and if you have a problem with it you need to calm down. And Izza I understand that some of them are actually depressed or have depression. But I doubt it's the majority of them. If a person has depression I have no right to judge them and I will change my views to see them otherwise, but if they are just acting sad, to be in that group, I highly disapprove of it. And who am I to tell them what to do? No one, but still, it is my opinion and does it really matter what other's think of my opinion? No it doesn't because that's what matter's to me.

What a fascist...

Its obessive discrimitory people like you that makes the world an uglier place to live in....

Oh well... rant all you like...

[kjrav]

Actually most gays I know (and i know quite few!) are offended/hurt by comments such as faggot.My problem is not that you have a problem w/t people who fake depression, but that you take that problem up with all Emo's instead of the few who actually would meet the circumstances(for a lack of a better word) you speak of.It seems to me that you pick out a certain group, in this case Emos, an use a probl that could be associated w/t any group, in this case faking depression, and use that as an excuse, a poor excuse in my opinion, to wrongly treat that group.In truth the problem you speak of can be found in any group.I've seen Jocks act depressed to pick up on a girls sympathy in otherwords depression as a pick-up tactic.I've seen alot of other kids fake depression in order to make an excuse for their poor work in school.The single problem you have based your dislike on emos is portrayed by society as a whole.Therefore in my opinion to justify your dislike of Emos you'd have to dislike all of society.Unless what you really dis like is the style that sets Emos apart and not the depression fakers you claim is the reason.

[narutoIZZAbest]

Octo you need to take a chill pill, I will use derogatory terms as much as I like. It's my right as a US citizen. And what if I do use that term, what does it matter to you? I know gay people and they are perfectly fine with me using those words, and if you have a problem with it you need to calm down. And Izza I understand that some of them are actually depressed or have depression. But I doubt it's the majority of them. If a person has depression I have no right to judge them and I will change my views to see them otherwise, but if they are just acting sad, to be in that group, I highly disapprove of it. And who am I to tell them what to do? No one, but still, it is my opinion and does it really matter what other's think of my opinion? No it doesn't because that's what matter's to me.
1. This topic is open for discussion. So yea, we can "debate/argue" back and worth if needed.
2. Well, no matter how much I disagree with your use of derogatory terms, I still have to say that that is not quite flaming-- yet.
As long as you don't flame, you're safe.

Btw, with that kind of question-- why did you even bother to argue back at mine anyways?
"Does it really matter?"




I could say it like that. But in my case, I am actually totally fine with it.

[Dorphuk]

My views on emo are pretty simple. Emo doesn't just mean someone who cuts themselves its their outlook on life, which i understand is not very positive but its their choice to be miserable.
If you are emo then thats cool just don't get all bitchy when someone tells you to shut up because they are fed up hearing your sad depressing life, only you can change that and its alot easier than you think.

[Octo]

Octo you need to take a chill pill, I will use derogatory terms as much as I like. It's my right as a US citizen. And what if I do use that term, what does it matter to you? I know gay people and they are perfectly fine with me using those words, and if you have a problem with it you need to calm down. And Izza I understand that some of them are actually depressed or have depression. But I doubt it's the majority of them. If a person has depression I have no right to judge them and I will change my views to see them otherwise, but if they are just acting sad, to be in that group, I highly disapprove of it. And who am I to tell them what to do? No one, but still, it is my opinion and does it really matter what other's think of my opinion? No it doesn't because that's what matter's to me.

What a fascist...

Its obessive discrimitory people like you that makes the world an uglier place to live in....

Oh well... rant all you like...

Agreed with V.

"U.S. Freedom as in free to kill the free". I'm sorry, but using derogatory terms ISN'T YOUR RIGHT. Dude, call someone gay a Faggot, they can take you to court. That's another thing you U.S. people are GREAT for, funny courts and stupidity in general.

Also kjrav made some good points, I'd like to see how you can counter them.

[Nova]

Octo you need to take a chill pill, I will use derogatory terms as much as I like. It's my right as a US citizen. And what if I do use that term, what does it matter to you? I know gay people and they are perfectly fine with me using those words, and if you have a problem with it you need to calm down. And Izza I understand that some of them are actually depressed or have depression. But I doubt it's the majority of them. If a person has depression I have no right to judge them and I will change my views to see them otherwise, but if they are just acting sad, to be in that group, I highly disapprove of it. And who am I to tell them what to do? No one, but still, it is my opinion and does it really matter what other's think of my opinion? No it doesn't because that's what matter's to me.

What a fascist...

Its obessive discrimitory people like you that makes the world an uglier place to live in....

Oh well... rant all you like...

Anyone who calls me a fascist for having pride in being an American Citizen has problems themself. I am in no way discriminitory. I do not hate on people because I don't like how they dress. I have never in anyway hurt, told off, or done anything of the sort to someone who is different than me. Just because I have views different than you does that make me a bad person? That's what I think you're getting at. I think, that you believe you are better than me because you have more liberal ideals. How does that make you better than me? Are you not discriminating against me when you say this?

I think it's quite sad that I can't say I don't like emo's and have everybody in this forum flame me. So what if I dislike emo's? Many of them fake a disease I saw people in my family struggle with very severly. Would you not hate a group of people that pretended to have cancer, and your mother had died of cancer? Wouldn't that anger you? If not, you have no pride in your family, which is sad. And V, I highly respect you, but calling me fascist? I don't care, I am indeed proud to be an American. I don't believe to be superior to people of other races, ethnicities, or sexualities because I am American. In all honesty I am disappointed that so many of you think you can flame or call my views ignorant and closed-minded and then clame to be open-minded yourselves. If you think you're better than me because you don't openly dislike emo's then what does that say about your views?

[Octo]

I am in no way discriminitory.

I will use derogatory terms as much as I like.

[Chidongan]

I am in no way discriminitory.

I will use derogatory terms as much as I like.just like a politician.

im proud. ^^

[AK47]

.... a group of people who pretend to have cancer. Do people like that even exist? Who in the world.. what the...
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[Katzyn]

People flame you for how closed-minded you are, T Nova. -____- I mean, seriously, do you know all the "emos" on Earth? Do you personally know that they are all just scenesters, faking depression, so they can look "cool", or whatever? I highly doubt you do. You didn't know me, when I was emo, depressed about how shitty I thought my life was. I cut, because it released the pain I felt, not because it was supposedly "cool". I even hid those cuts, from everyone, even my emo friends, so don't go assuming every emo does that stuff to be cool.

You know...I think you should say that you hate those people who really fake depression, not just emos in general. You can't possibly hate what you don't know, and you don't know if those emos are really depressed or not, so you can't really hate them, can you?

And for the record, my family has suffered depression, suicide, ect., but that doesn't give us a right to hate a group of people who are different in their methods of handling depression.

EDIT: Just because I have views different than you does that make me a bad person?
So.....if he has differnet views from you, in your words, that makes you a bad person, yes? Then.....if someone else....decides that the best way for them to get past depression is to become an "emo", that makes them scenesters, fakers.....generally people that you hate, just because they deal with things differently? Okay.

[Octo]

People flame you for how closed-minded you are, T Nova. -____- I mean, seriously, do you know all the "emos" on Earth? Do you personally know that they are all just scenesters, faking depression, so they can look "cool", or whatever? I highly doubt you do. You didn't know me, when I was emo, depressed about how shitty I thought my life was. I cut, because it released the pain I felt, not because it was supposedly "cool". I even hid those cuts, from everyone, even my emo friends, so don't go assuming every emo does that stuff to be cool.

You know...I think you should say that you hate those people who really fake depression, not just emos in general. You can't possibly hate what you don't know, and you don't know if those emos are really depressed or not, so you can't really hate them, can you?

And for the record, my family has suffered depression, suicide, ect., but that doesn't give us a right to hate a group of people who are different in their methods of handling depression.


Well said Kat. T Nova, you stated how are we not close minded for hating on you when we call you close minded for hating on an entire genre.

Well this is simple. YOU have proven to be close minded, contradictory, and just a plain dick. Therefore we flame/argue with you.

You on the other hand, seem to hate a type of clique that comprises of over 1 million people. You are generalizing. Generalizing = Close minded. We aren't generalizing, there is you and only you.

[Nova]

W/e Octo. You and all your little friends are correct. Again you defeat another enemy by calling him close-minded. And the "derogatory terms/I'm not discriminitory" post that you caught, "bravo!", you are truly a genius. And if you truly must know why I use derogatory words is because it is simply slang where I come from? Is that good enough for you now? What else can I say? I have different views than you all do. I don't care that you do have those views. All I know is that I overcame my family's hereditary disease with my own strength and during that time I was all alone, had no friends or anything. I lived a drab meaningless life. But I didn't cut myself to overcome the pain, I didn't try to fit into a group that feeds off of sadness (and here I'm admitting that emo's most likely do have depression) to escape my loneliness. I stuck it out, I lived day by day and I continued with my life hoping that it would get better. I didn't inflict physical pain on myself, even whenever everything seemed against me, because I knew that both physical and emotional pain become better with time. Instead of doing ev