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Shinobi_X
05-24-2004, 11:08 PM
I say kakashi will win because with his sharinghan,he will be a little stronger than gai.Gai might have kick boxing skills and good fighting style,I don't think he is no match for kakashi.
NarutoNineTails
05-24-2004, 11:18 PM
They are pretty even going half at it but what would happen if they went at it at full stregth? I say Guy. Guy probably has the gates and if he opens enough of them...I say he has the edge. Kakashi has the edge if Guy can't or won't open the gates. It is quite possible that Kakashi will not give Guy enough time to open any gates though
Holyeternalx
05-24-2004, 11:32 PM
i like kakashi more, but i would have to say gai, just because he knows who to combat the sharingan well enough that kakashi couldnt use it to hsi advantage and yes he can open the gates which would completely outclass kakashi, unless kakashi is severely holding back in all of his battles, gais taijutsu is just the perfect match up for him, if gai didnt have the taijutsu mastered, kakashi would definately win
Calculust
05-24-2004, 11:39 PM
They've shown many times to be even rivals for eachother. I think Kakashi would win though. The Sharingan isn't only for playing mind games with the opponent, it gives Kakashi over 1000 different techniques to use on Gai.
narutofanboy
05-25-2004, 12:32 AM
ya the ting is.. kakashi's body isnt as fast as gai's so even if kakashi can see gai comin he cant counter it... but in the end it would be exTREMELY close match... but i believe that gai would win if he opened his gates... he would be TOOO fast for kakashis comprehension...
and dont argue back u kakashi lovers that "oo because sharingan can see his moves blah blah blah kakashi will counter them..."
um well heres a thing... SHARINGAN IS NOT INVINCIBLE... o ya also its not that u have the sharingan that you can completly counter and dodge every attack... it also depends on ur stamina, strength, agility and speed.... and frankly KAKashi's speed does not match gai's speed... and even if he has 1000 techniques kakashi doesnt have enough chakra to use them all... and he will not have time to summon a jutsu wen gai is hittin him wit his speed or havin opened gates....
but atleast kakashi would atleast SEE his fate comin wen he see that FOOT Being kicked to his HEAD!! :twisted:
Lukasz
05-25-2004, 11:19 AM
I think Gai. Gates and speed. And i like him more :D :D Sharingan dont work on him because he use taijutsu (Kakashi cannot copy them)
Deathfire
05-25-2004, 11:27 AM
I choose the better looking guy, Kakashi!!! And no, I don't really have a reason...-_- heh heh...
Gai, would win..he knows how to counter the sharingan, he's faster and stronger...but it would be a close match
darkabyss
05-25-2004, 07:21 PM
but hey rember how kakashi saw rock lees fighting style and taught it to sasuke? that would mean he mustve masterd taijutsu too cause lee mastered it and kakashi copied it. but if gai release the gates then kakashi is pretty much screwed i think. unless kakashi copied how to open the gates too then kakashi would win i think.
but then again kakashis body tires easily.
i dont know
NarutoNineTails
05-25-2004, 07:27 PM
I think Kakashi would have the ability to open the gates but his physical training can not compare to Guy's. His body could not handle the pressure of opening so many gates.
darkabyss
05-25-2004, 08:08 PM
good point
AnimeHentaiBaka
05-25-2004, 08:27 PM
But we don't know if Gai can open the gates...
NarutoNineTails
05-25-2004, 08:33 PM
But we don't know if Gai can open the gates...
True, we can't be sure...but the likelihood is that Guy does know. If he taught Lee how to do it then why couldn't Guy? Guy is stronger and faster than Lee.
thompkinsbrian
05-25-2004, 09:17 PM
only girls like kakashi, also guys that like other guys alos like kakashi
Kaori Masako
05-25-2004, 09:36 PM
pssst, if you look close enough you would see that both Gia and Lee are the flamers. While Kakashi is all man. :lol:
At this point we don't know if Kakashi can open the 8 gates do we? I mean he says a lot of things in a surprising way, or makes interesting faces, but has he ever flat out said "I'm not capable of doing that?"
I think he can handle a lot more then what we have been shown. The mystery is just another reason why Kakashi rocks!
thompkinsbrian
05-25-2004, 09:38 PM
youre' a girl or a guy?
Kaori Masako
05-25-2004, 09:38 PM
Perhaps I'm both... or neither?
thompkinsbrian
05-25-2004, 09:39 PM
i take it your a girl then. thats all i got to say
Kaori Masako
05-25-2004, 09:42 PM
So certainly if one is a girl, their reasons for choosing Kakashi become null and void...I see...
thompkinsbrian
05-25-2004, 10:06 PM
EXACTLY :LOL:
FRANKIEFANKIE
05-25-2004, 11:34 PM
eehh..
gai taught lee to open the gates
so gai knows how..
pluse
so far i havnt seen gai lose 1 fight yet were as kakashi has been getting slaped around by everyone ...
and pluse..his eye..its somone elses
and thats scary :o
so go gai!
SillyNaruto
05-26-2004, 12:41 AM
I've read what people say...and i still think Kakashi would win. I don't know a lot about Gai, but it seems he's like rock lee, right? he isnt that great with seals and the like. Kakashi has a really big advantage in that he can use range attacks. Gai can only fight close up if all he can use is hand-to-hand. Kakashi is brilliant, im positive he could think up a way to get around Gai's strength and speed.
FRANKIEFANKIE
05-26-2004, 12:44 AM
well if somone kicks u in the face ...theres realy no time to think unless your iq is
shikamrues..
although u have a point kakashi
usualy attack close up anyways
thompkinsbrian
05-26-2004, 12:51 AM
yes how many times have you seen kakashi launch a long range attack. also gai is good enough with hadseals to train 3 genin and he can also do summoning jutsu
Lixie
05-26-2004, 01:06 AM
I say Gai. He's just too sexy for his own good.
Besides. He saved Kakashi's sexy behind.
FRANKIEFANKIE
05-26-2004, 01:10 AM
gai is cool :):):)
SillyNaruto
05-26-2004, 01:17 AM
Just because we havent seen him use long range, doesnt mean he cant. Remember, he copied over 1000 jutsu's. He's got to have some in there, and if he needs to use them, he will.
FRANKIEFANKIE
05-26-2004, 01:19 AM
well he sher hasnt proved verry well in the show so far
:\ were as gai has done much better
pluse gai has such a refreshing face
how can u not love gai?
NarutoNineTails
05-26-2004, 01:19 AM
pssst, if you look close enough you would see that both Gia and Lee are the flamers. While Kakashi is all man. :lol:
At this point we don't know if Kakashi can open the 8 gates do we? I mean he says a lot of things in a surprising way, or makes interesting faces, but has he ever flat out said "I'm not capable of doing that?"
I think he can handle a lot more then what we have been shown. The mystery is just another reason why Kakashi rocks!
Kakashi probably could open the gates if he wanted to (he is considered a genious too and has seen how it is done) but I don't think he has the physical preparedness to handle opening many gates. Maybe he could open couple but his body would break down any more than that.
bonkers
05-26-2004, 04:20 AM
I just voted for Gai , cause i felt sorry for the guy....
nawar
05-26-2004, 06:40 AM
gai is the man, he is tajutsu master, but he can do nin and genjutsu both in high levels,
summon is a highlevel ninjutsu and kai (cancel) is a high level genjutsu,
but he mastered the tajutsu because of the sharingan, kakashi was gais rival, so he trained his entire life probably to beat that sharingan in every way, kakashi having jutsu doesnt really matter, every singel ninja has jutsu and they are always difrent, i dont see why kakashi having 1000 of em gives him that much of an advantage to beat his exact counterpart
KakashitheCopyNinja
05-26-2004, 12:15 PM
hmmm...i would say Gai cuz he knows how to "counter" or negate Sharingan...for those who have watched episode 82 when Gai says that if you look at the Sharingan users feet, then they can't hypnotize you... and also Gai has incredible speed....if you saw rock lee fight in the Chounin exams when he takes off the weights...that was amazing...anyway...Kakashi might be able to see the moves...but he might not have the speed to keep up with Gai....imagine Gai had weights on his feet too???? that would be amazing...
FRANKIEFANKIE
05-26-2004, 09:11 PM
gai is stronger ..than kakashi ..who cares if kakashi has 1000 techneqs
gai would just beat him up
.......even if he used chidori
its not like u cant dodge that...
pluse if gai opened up even up to 4 innger gates
kakashi is doombed!
i bet most of those 1000 techniques are just simple shit or stupid stuff i.e. peeking no jutsu....
FRANKIEFANKIE
05-26-2004, 09:22 PM
fer real eh..
plus in battle its not like hes gunna remember 1000 techniques
lol and yo
copying other peoples moves is so cheap
you see the way he maid sasuke totaly bit lees style ......
kakashi would have to get use to the art of getting
thrown around by gai
( no offence kakashi fans but its true..)
NarutoVy
05-27-2004, 04:35 AM
Gai, after all, his strategy of focusing on Hatake's feet must have worked for him to somehow get him in the lead 51-50, or wutever
nawar
05-27-2004, 08:49 AM
those battles are simple rock papper scicors battles, they probably never went all out,
NarutoNineTails
05-27-2004, 01:06 PM
I thought Kakashi is in the lead...not Guy.
FRANKIEFANKIE
05-27-2004, 05:43 PM
lol gai would win ...we all know kakashis
shiringan thingy...how ever u spell it
is about half as powerfull as the real uchia clan ...
nawar
05-27-2004, 06:05 PM
what does that matter, in the end kakashi has it and gai doesnt, it does not matter how usefull it is, it is always better than not having it, but the advantage it gives kakashi is in my opinion not enough
NarutoNineTails
05-27-2004, 06:07 PM
Not necessarily. Itachi was quite surprised how well Kakashi used his Sharingan. Except one super genious (Itachi), it took a regular genious (Sasuke) 12 years to activate his Sharingan. Who knows how long an average Uchiha needs to activate his Sharingan?
Episode 84 showed the massacre. I don't remember seeing any other Uchiha member activating their Sharingan against Itachi when their life was on the line. Some less talented uchiha might not be able to activate their sharingan in their lifetime.
FRANKIEFANKIE
05-27-2004, 06:13 PM
hmhm...
well ....technicaly
we still have to see them fight to know hwos better.....
nawar
05-27-2004, 06:15 PM
exactly, and about that flashback of the fight.......it seemed that most of them were weaklings, probably not even ninja or genin
FRANKIEFANKIE
05-27-2004, 06:33 PM
flashbacks?
i hope that aint a spoiler..
and yo u mean when tehy fought though genin
ninjas
when tehy were getting attacked or ?
is that fartehr into the thingy
nawar
05-27-2004, 06:38 PM
in ep 84 when sasuke remembers the entire thing, itachi seemed like he was fighting normal people
FRANKIEFANKIE
05-27-2004, 06:40 PM
oo itachi ...whocares aobut itachi..lol i mean gai vs kakashi
but yeah yeah he doesnt seem to strong imean he was attacking bakery people and farmers ;)
nawar
05-27-2004, 06:43 PM
thats why they didnt have sharingan, but back to kakashi and gai, i say GAI all the way
FRANKIEFANKIE
05-27-2004, 06:47 PM
:)
NarutoNineTails
05-27-2004, 08:05 PM
I was just reponding to Kakashi's sharingan being weak. He is the second best user of Sharingan right now. His problem with the Sharingan is stamina and the length of its usage, not effectiveness.
And I do believe Guy is stronger.
narutofanboy
05-27-2004, 08:27 PM
I was just reponding to Kakashi's sharingan being weak. He is the second best user of Sharingan right now. His problem with the Sharingan is stamina and the length of its usage, not effectiveness.
And I do believe Guy is stronger.
hahaahh i agree wit u except a lil reminder.... um up until now... kakashi was the only second persoon wit the sharingan... until sasuke developed his.... ahhaha kinda a weird comment....
NarutoNineTails
05-27-2004, 08:34 PM
I would think Kakashi is able to take on and beat other Uchiha's except Itachi, if they were still alive today. This is assuming Kakashi would still posses Sharingan.
FRANKIEFANKIE
05-27-2004, 10:10 PM
i dont think so ..
SillyNaruto
05-28-2004, 01:11 AM
I think it's very possible that Kakashi could beat other Uchiha's. For someone who wasn't born with the ability to possess the Sharingan, Kakashi uses it very well. I'd like to see what he can do with two of them.
And i wonder who won their first fight. Didn't Gai mention fighting Kakashi and going up against the sharingan?
sasuke_neji
05-28-2004, 02:15 AM
i think kakashi is much,much better than kapal kilay(gai)!!i mean cmon !gai is no match 4 kakachi :wink:
Kaori Masako
05-28-2004, 12:03 PM
I want to finally see if there is a real difference between Kakashi just having the one sharingan, compaired to sasuke or itachi's 2 eyes. Something besides the two brothers motovation of hate or madness, as in comparison Kakashi is much more mild mannered so far.
Know what I mean?
NarutoNineTails
05-28-2004, 01:35 PM
I want to finally see if there is a real difference between Kakashi just having the one sharingan, compaired to sasuke or itachi's 2 eyes. Something besides the two brothers motovation of hate or madness, as in comparison Kakashi is much more mild mannered so far.
Know what I mean?
Itachi is just a freak...almost as bad as Orochimaru. He killed his whole clan just to see if he was capable...hmm...sounds like a serial killer to me. Sasuke seems like he used to be a normal kid but common...after experiencing something like what he did...would you be normal? As I said before Kakashi is like the definition of cool. He is always rationally analyzing his situation even if the situation seems impossible to beat.
I don't think it has anything to do w/ the number of sharingan eyes you posses...just personality differences.
Kaori Masako
05-28-2004, 07:14 PM
NarutoNineTails: Maybe, hopefully well get a better explination eventually :)
FRANKIEFANKIE
05-28-2004, 11:30 PM
WOW Maria!!
u maid your owne display picture and!!!
your owne sig
already!!!
wow.
and its better than everyone elses too..
( gai would win its simple hes stronger if uwatched ep 85 ud know that)
narutofanboy
05-28-2004, 11:48 PM
omg this topic is gettin so old can sumone like not answer to this topic anymore... imean look at the polls its settled already... and it just keeps amazin me how many ppl love kakashi and think he is the koolest guy ever and kik everyones ass... well hate to tell you guys but to snap back to reality... NO NINJA IS INVINCIBLE!! EVERYONE HAS A WEAKNES!! sharingan weakness is... taijutsu because taijutsu you dont have to look at the eyes of the sharingan to fight him... you can just look at their feet... mean kakashi doesnt always use the sharingan... he just uses it to see if he is being attacked or not... imean if you think bout it... its bad to just rely on the sharingan.. tats why kakashi has other moves TO!!! cuz if you rely on the sharingan too much then its easier for sumone wit ur weakness to kik ur BUTt!!!
FRANKIEFANKIE
05-29-2004, 12:51 AM
yes look at the poles
kakashi is losing :\
Kaori Masako
05-29-2004, 03:13 AM
Are we a tad bit touchie towards the Kakashi fans? :lol: 8)
FRANKIEFANKIE
05-29-2004, 03:15 AM
yes sir!
Kaori Masako
05-29-2004, 03:18 AM
That's yes mama! =p
FRANKIEFANKIE
05-31-2004, 12:24 AM
lol.
yes mama!
thousand bird
07-10-2004, 09:32 PM
gai said that he and kakashi are internal rivals or something like that, so i begin to think who is stronger, kakashi's sharingan and chidori or gai's amazing speed and strength. well who do you think is stronger ??
meteoros
07-10-2004, 09:33 PM
i would say gai since he is much faster than kakashi, but gai looks stupid
Mr. SmartyPants
07-10-2004, 09:47 PM
but gai looks stupid
oh definately... :P
well, gai would probably win
vegita625
07-10-2004, 09:55 PM
but gai looks stupid
oh definately... :P
well, gai would probably win
Didn't he say he recently broke their tie at 50 for Kakashi and 51 for Gai? I'm pretty sure he said that somewhere around Sasuke vs. Lee, but not sure...
NarutoKun9Tails
07-10-2004, 10:32 PM
I thought in the episode where they introduce Gai they said that Gai beat kakashi one more time than kakashi beat him. So, if they fight again i think Kakashi would win to even it.
Aurora Dark
07-10-2004, 11:16 PM
I thought in the episode where they introduce Gai they said that Gai beat kakashi one more time than kakashi beat him. So, if they fight again i think Kakashi would win to even it.
my thoughts exactly.
lol... btw (to all you people out there)...
Gai's count of winning one more match than Kakashi includes a "rock, paper, scissors" match or two... so that doesn't imply that either one of them is stronger.
NarutoNineTails
07-10-2004, 11:29 PM
I remember Kakashi being up by 1 over Gai.
Anyways if they are going at all out Gai has an edge with his gates...assuming Kakashi can't open them.
Anbu Dr J
07-10-2004, 11:49 PM
but if kakashi was serious he would probably beat the crap outta gai
KeyserSozei
07-11-2004, 01:11 AM
eww it's tied up..
i say kakashi..
it's like he doesn't care when he's with gai..
cause he knows it's
not a big deal
so he let's him win to shut up him
he's pretty awesome kakashi is :)
Thepimplishone
07-11-2004, 01:16 AM
alot of the times they compete, its usually someting simple like rock paper scissors...so its all chance ;)
Thepimplishone
07-11-2004, 01:17 AM
oh wait...someone already posted that...sry
Sxy n Jts
07-11-2004, 01:23 AM
Kakashi is STRONGER!!!!!!! 8)
Kakashi could copy Gai's jutsus.... or...
He could use deadly techniques and bam!!!!!!!
Gai is knocked out!!!!!!!!!! 8)
«Äñßû»
07-11-2004, 02:02 AM
I think their about even, but Kakashi is cooler, so i chose him
Anbu Dr J
07-11-2004, 03:00 AM
hahaha nooo kakashi could use the supreme ancient konoha technique!! 1,000 years of pain!
tipme
07-11-2004, 03:25 AM
but how would kakashi get a chance to use it on him
i voted kakashi,
hes way cooler
Lukasz
07-11-2004, 06:46 AM
gai is more cooler than kakashi. HE LOOKS BETTER :P
he is faster, stronger, and his jutsus cannot be copied
i think they fight would be even but in the end gai would win. and he has more stamina than kakashi. :)
thousand bird
07-11-2004, 01:08 PM
gai is more cooler than kakashi, HE LOOKS BETTER
GAI LOOKS BETTER THAN KAKASHI???? i think you need bed rest
Lukasz
07-11-2004, 01:26 PM
nope. i still sane am. :) it is so cool how he looks. I do think his outfit is better than kakashi's.
mask, sharingan, hidding one eye, hair style arent in my opinion so great.
gai's hair, outfit, eyeborws and super white teeth are great. :)
thousand bird
07-11-2004, 01:47 PM
then let me guess, you like the way rock lee looks too?
SillyNaruto
07-11-2004, 02:02 PM
Wasn't there already a topic exactly like this one....?
Lukasz
07-11-2004, 02:27 PM
then let me guess, you like the way rock lee looks too?
you bet i do. (they look almost the same) :o :lol:
thousand bird
07-11-2004, 08:40 PM
well still i think kakashi will win, well look at the votes!!! its 8:5 for kakashi right now
thousand bird
07-11-2004, 08:41 PM
and besides kakashi can easily copy gai's speed with his sharingan, like sasuke did to rock lee
Lukasz
07-11-2004, 08:51 PM
hehe. sasuke learned how lee moved. he needed super training to have lee's speed. that's why kakashi trained him. (plus chidori)
sharingan cannot copy speed. it would be supreme weapon and it isnt. person who can copy speed can copy strenght too. he (or she) doesnt need to train then.
i say it again: sharingan cannot copy speed. can copy persons move so it will be easier to increase your speed. (this thing happened with sasuke) but during fight gai will be alwyas faster than kakashi.
thousand bird
07-11-2004, 09:00 PM
but gai cannot defeat kakashi with just speed and strength, rock lee was fast but he wasnt able to defeat gaara with super speed and strength, this proves that speed isnt everything you need to win.
NarutoNineTails
07-11-2004, 09:04 PM
Lee would have won if not for the awesome defense that Garra has. Kakashi doesn't have such a defense.
Lukasz
07-11-2004, 09:05 PM
ofcourse not. but kakashi doesnt have anything like sand. he doesnt have 100% defence like gaara and neji (and naruto but he doesnt know about it ;) )
kakashi knows lots of jutsus but he is too slow for gai. gai would dodge them. and he would get close.
we do agree that in close combat kakashi doesnt have chance with gai?
thousand bird
07-11-2004, 09:09 PM
mmmm... well i guess that kakashi's chidori wont reach gai when he is not able to catch up to him, but remember kakashi is a jounin, and he can use kage bunshin(shadow replication) but gai doesnt because he has no talents in that area. kakashi can easily surround him with kage bunshin and use chidori to finish him off.
thousand bird
07-11-2004, 09:11 PM
or he can use shadow clones to keep gai busy well the real him power up for chidori
NarutoNineTails
07-12-2004, 11:04 AM
We don't know if Gai is as bad as Lee in the arean of ninjutsu. He definitely not as good as Kakashi but I don't think he is as bad as Lee. We already know he can summon and that is not an easy jutsu to master.
thousand bird
07-12-2004, 08:06 PM
gai can summon?
NarutoNineTails
07-12-2004, 08:30 PM
I believe the turtle that appeared and stopped Lee from perfoming his secondary lotus (was it first?) on Sasuke was a summon of Gai's.
thousand bird
07-12-2004, 11:18 PM
that pink turtle was summoned by gai?? remember he said that he found lee similar to him because they both have no talent in ninjutsu
NarutoNineTails
07-13-2004, 05:49 PM
I believe that Turtle was his summon. Do you know any other animals that can talk other than summons?
Gai said Lee was similar to him because he works hard I believe. Gai is at least an ok Ninjutsu user (he can do summoning jutsu). He prefers to use taijutsu just because it is his specialty.
Lee has to know at least the basic ninjutsus to pass the academy also. He just doesn't have any talent for them.
HunterDylan
07-17-2004, 02:07 PM
Kakashi is like Sasuke 8)
Gai is like Lee :D
And Sasuke gained Lee speed, so propably if Kakashi trained for battle against Lee, Kakashi wins but If Gai can open some Gates....
I don't know :(
EVILEE
07-17-2004, 10:32 PM
gai will win kakashi good but gai power ful and he have great speed :lol:
EVILEE
07-17-2004, 10:34 PM
i think gai wil open it :lol: cause lee can open it
Hinata-Kun
07-18-2004, 12:32 AM
i think kakashi will win cuz he wa an ex anbu member lol and because he can summon the dogs 2 kick the turtles buttocks
NarutoNineTails
07-18-2004, 01:02 AM
I think Kakashi is technically capable of opening gates but I don't think Kakashi trains hard enough physically to handle opening the gates. Even if he can open some gates, I don't think his body could handle more that 1 or 2 gates. Thus edge goes to Gai who is much stronger physically than Lee.
Sara Kido
07-18-2004, 06:02 AM
Kakashi would win 'cause... 'cause.... 'cause I like him more then Gai, Gai is just so weird.
But... didn't Lee said that Gai was stronger than Kakashi?? :?
Anyway, I like Kakashi, so Kakashi wins :P
Aurora Dark
07-18-2004, 06:37 AM
But... didn't Lee said that Gai was stronger than Kakashi?? :?
I believe he did. But... Lee is biased, of course ;) Gai is his idol, so of course he believes in him more ^^;
[_Sharingan_]
07-18-2004, 09:02 AM
Well I think Kakashi would win, becouse he knows more than a 1000 techniques, has Sharingan and evn can open some gates...
Nine-Tails Possesed~
07-20-2004, 04:56 AM
Kakashi's attitude during battle tells me that he'd win against Gai no problem, plus Gai can't even win in a simple game of rock, sizzors, paper!!
EVILEE
07-20-2004, 07:33 PM
gai will win cause he have great kick :twisted: kakashi cant copy gai move :twisted:
Nine-Tails Possesed~
07-20-2004, 10:23 PM
Are you so sure about that? I mean, Sasuke could copy Rock Lee's move after seeing it like 6 or 7 days in advance! I bet Kakashi could do something like that easily!
NarutoNineTails
07-20-2004, 10:28 PM
Technically, Kakashi could copy Gai's moves. Does that mean he can do them as well? I think not. I don't believe Kakashi does enough physical training to even handle the power and speed of Gai. Even if Kakashi could copy or learn how to open the gates, at his current state, his body could not handle it like Lee or Gai.
Nine-Tails Possesed~
07-20-2004, 10:41 PM
Though he has been training more since his little fight with Kabuto, or talk I should say, and knows what he's capable of! If Kakashi REALLY put his mind into his training, then he'd win for sure!
NarutoNineTails
07-20-2004, 10:49 PM
I agree that Kakashi has more potential. At his current state (well the state before his fight w/ Itachi), Gai would win if he decides to open gates on Kakashi. Of course neither of them will be fighting all out against each other.
Sxy n Jts
07-21-2004, 07:12 AM
Kakashi could just kick Gai's butt!!! 8)
Hmm... if Gai opened all his gates on Kakashi, definitely there's a possibility he would die!!! 8)
NarutoNineTails
07-21-2004, 02:08 PM
Gai doesn't need to open all that many gates against Kakashi. Kakashi is already slower than Gai. I bet that Gai could take Kakashi while opening less than what Lee opened against Garra.
Anonymous
07-21-2004, 03:00 PM
kakashi.
DatCong
07-21-2004, 05:36 PM
i'd say these two are a fair match for each other, but when it comes to speed, kakashi pales in comparison to gai's speed. plus, gai knows the sharingan's tricks and knows how to get around it. ya, fair match if these two were pitted against each other, but once gai opens the gates of woops ass, kakashi is sitting ramen for naruto. opening the gates cannot just simply be copied with the sharingan but must be achieved through a lot of work.
«Shîñôßì»
07-21-2004, 09:04 PM
Gai's count of winning one more match than Kakashi includes a "rock, paper, scissors" match or two... so that doesn't imply that either one of them is stronger.
it would probly be hard to play rock paper scissors with somebody who has sharingan. Kakashi could copy Gia's every move :twisted:
Raistlin
07-21-2004, 09:20 PM
Kakashi is STRONGER!!!!!!! 8)
Kakashi could copy Gai's jutsus.... or...
He could use deadly techniques and bam!!!!!!!
Gai is knocked out!!!!!!!!!! 8)
What jutsu's does Gai use?!?!
Sara Kido
07-23-2004, 02:02 AM
It's like most of us like Kakashi due to his ways, even if Gai were stronger, I'd say that Kakashi is the strongest, 'cause I like him more then Gai 8)
NarutoNineTails
07-23-2004, 02:41 AM
I like Kakashi better too but in a "life in the line" battle, Gai has the upper hand.
satanix
07-23-2004, 06:28 AM
I think gai will win.Kakashi cant copy gai's movements so easy.
bonkers
07-23-2004, 02:45 PM
I said Gai , only cause Gai said he's stronger in an ep (can't remeber which ep , but it was recently)
michub4k4
07-23-2004, 06:55 PM
I must say that I do agree with the fact that Gai is stronger and faster, but I voted for Kakashi because I believe in him more, and he's way awesome.
XD
BAsically that just makes my vote irrelevant, but I do agree with Gai being stronger from what has been shown.
Maybe we have yet to see the true Kakashi, same with Gai. :O
Sara Kido
07-24-2004, 12:09 AM
Still Kakashi :P
Sxy n Jts
07-24-2004, 08:18 AM
Yep!!!!!!!!!! Kakashi!!!!!!!!! 8)
Beat that baka green beast of Konoha!!!!!!!!
Yondaime
08-03-2004, 01:38 PM
well their count it gai-50 kakashi-49. i seem to remember that the one to break the 49-49 tie was rock paper scissors but gai is faster than kakashi as sasuke indicates in episode 22.
i think that they are both equal.
Sxy n Jts
08-07-2004, 09:26 AM
Oh?!? ok... if it's your opinion. 8)
well we really havent seen what Gai can do, but he is tied with Kakashi so i don't think the only thing he can do is hand to hand combat. But you got to take into consideration that its just about training . If it would have been a real fight, Kakashi might have a jutsu that could take him down instantly or disable his movement.
Super_Pervert
08-12-2004, 06:37 AM
What makes every1 think that Gai sux wit ninjutsu?? He teaches that means he has 2 know at least a little bit and i think he is Jounin so he has 2 know ninjutsu plus he says Rock Lee would be the 1st ninja 2 use taijutsu only...
NarutoNineTails
08-12-2004, 01:49 PM
Gai hasn't really used any ninjutsu yet like Hyuugas. It also seems like he doesn't concentrate much on ninjutsu training. It is easy to assume that his ninjutsu skills will be much weaker than Kakashi's. It doesn't necessarily means Gai sux at it but I can't see Gai being better than average in ninjutsu.
Ducko
09-11-2004, 06:01 AM
Kakashi... i'm sure if tehy both go all out... Kakashi would do some powerful combos...
Amatsu Mikaboshi
09-11-2004, 07:18 AM
i've mentioned this somewhere else. gai can summon turtles. so it's obvious he can use ninjutsu.
Sabakuno Gaara
09-11-2004, 05:36 PM
ive noticed that most of you guys are voting for whose cooler, and not for whose relatively stronger!!! its definately gai! he said it many times, and i think kakashi admitted it toO! gai is somewhat exp. with fighting sharingan by now! and as nnt said, gai's gates are too strong for kakashi i imo!
vegita625
09-11-2004, 06:09 PM
Gai hasn't really used any ninjutsu yet like Hyuugas. It also seems like he doesn't concentrate much on ninjutsu training. It is easy to assume that his ninjutsu skills will be much weaker than Kakashi's. It doesn't necessarily means Gai sux at it but I can't see Gai being better than average in ninjutsu.
Yea, I mean think about the turtle... he summoned a darn turtle!
Raistlin
09-11-2004, 07:13 PM
That doesn't mean he's better then average..
mauben
09-11-2004, 10:17 PM
gai seems to have stronger taijutsu skillz than kakashi, and yea, gai does know ninjutsu and whatnot cause for one, he can stand on water, meaning he can channel his chakra to his feet, and two, that turtle thing everyone is talkin bout.
and kakashi can open his gates, cause in one episode, where hes training himself, he opens one of his gates to jump up onto a cliff or something. well, at least he says "kai" which means open in madarin and japanese and chinese are sorta similar sometimes.
do_rei_me
09-12-2004, 10:37 AM
it is pretty even... difficult to say... Kakashi has sharingan to read moves, but it seems like Gai's taijutsu is superfast... maybe kakashi won't be able to react fast enough physically
but then... Gai is not very clever... so... maybe Kakashi can trick him
BlueKyroDragon
09-12-2004, 05:45 PM
while gai is much better at taijutsu im willing to bet kakashi has the advantage in ninjutsu and genjutsu, and sense kakashi isent terriable at taijutsu i think he would win, he also has the Sharingan if he ever needs it
Amatsu Mikaboshi
09-12-2004, 07:55 PM
i think kakashi knows all of gai's taijutsu. he watched lee open some gates so now he can do that too. PLUS he has his 1000+ jutsus. if they both trained for an upcoming fight i think kakashi would win if they fought like tomorrow i think it'd be a bit more even. i think chidori is useless against gai unless gai was incapacitated.
NarutoNineTails
09-13-2004, 02:45 AM
It is possible that Kakashi might know all of Gai's taijutsu but more likely that he knows majority. I can totally see Gai trying to hide some against Kakashi. The thing to consider is if Kakashi can pull off those taijutsu moves as effectively as Gai. I highly doubt it.
I said this before somewhere but gonna repeat it:
The real important thing is not if you can open the gates but if your body can handle the opening of gates. Normal shinobis who can and does open the gates would not be able to sustain the power and speed increase for as long as Lee and would suffer more damage afterward. Only reason why Lee's gates are so effective is because of the ridiculous physical training he endures. I don't think Itachi, Kakashi, nor the 3rd goes thru the kinds of physical training to effectively pull off the gates. It would be wise for them not to use it even if they knew how. It would be way too risky since if you don't defeat your enemy while the gates last...Sakura can beat you afterwards. This is assuming that Gai is in much better physical shape than Lee...I believe that is the case.
Mangekyou Sharingan
06-01-2006, 11:46 AM
i think it'll be a draw because kakashi has the sharingan and can only copy techniques and gai has hand-to-hand combat so he is superior fast
well in manga i would go for gai since we see him fight more
but here in the anime too i would vote for gai if rock lee's gates look like that from the gaara fight, then gai must be 20X better which would pwn anyone anytime
Ya im going for Gai as big of a Kakashi fan i am. But in the anime we never really saw Gai.
maririn
06-04-2006, 03:05 PM
kakashi is the best!!!!!!!!
He knows more than 1000 techniques!!!!!
Gai is good but not that good!!!!
knowing a thousand techniques is a rather large feat
but how do we know that makes you stronger
knowing more techniques does not make you that much stronger
maririn
06-04-2006, 03:32 PM
i know that but he has sharigan as well!!!!
KageNaruto
06-04-2006, 05:48 PM
i vote for gai, plus he is leading in those little contests they have eve though they barely show anything
Uchiha_Blaze
06-05-2006, 04:18 PM
CR: Spoiler deleted
KageNaruto
06-05-2006, 04:47 PM
1. GO READ THE GODDAMN RULES!
2. thats HUGE frikin spoiler
3. i Pmed Cr to delete it
4 dharts read the godamn rules and bow down to them, obey!
Uchiha_Blaze
06-05-2006, 04:54 PM
SPOILER DELETED
KageNaruto
06-05-2006, 05:01 PM
it is a huge spoiler, and please go delte it or put it in white lettering now.
also bruce lee is one of the greatest martial artists to have ever lived. the only one sucking ass is you. now go delete your spoiler
Uchiha_Blaze
06-05-2006, 05:27 PM
K sry again i wont spoil again etc etc .Sry i know this dosent belong in this topic but now back to Bruce Lee. The man was the legend i had him for a gr8 guy, great actor, great martial artist but then i started to see thigns a diferent way... we live in a time when al sorts of crime is going on and if bruce lee wuld be attacked by a guy with 2 ak47s(lol i owerdid it :S) what wuld he do? his martia arts wuldnt bring anything and i like self defense but with guns or such(lol watch equilibrium)or knifes or any item...o and the man died of an aspirin HE ATE AN ASPIRIN AND DIED so i was wrong when i sad he sux but hes not UBERIMBAPWNZORS either.... k sry again by by
CRtwenty
06-05-2006, 05:38 PM
As a reminder, don't post anything in the anime section that hasn't happened in the anime yet.
Uchiha Adrian
06-06-2006, 07:35 AM
If there was an option for draw id click that :P
imported_Narusukashi
06-06-2006, 06:19 PM
No offense to some of you.. but reading some of these posts makes my head spin. It feels like I'm reading some 6 year olds post. Seriously, please do your best to make your post readable for us to read.
Anyways back to the topic. I think Kakashi would win, simply because he has amazing reflexes, and is a genius. Just look at the fight with Itachi if you want to know what I mean by reflexes. Sure, Gai has Taijutsu, but we don't know what kind of techniques Kakashi knows. With Kakashis ability to form quick hand seals, and amazing reflexes, he could just use a technique to counter a physical attack.
But really, this is a rather dumb question. Basing your opinions on little facts will get you nowhere. We can all sit here and argue who's the best, but when it comes down to the truth.. we don't really know. There's little information in the anime regarding these two characters, and if you really want to know for sure who would win, I suggest reading the manga.
NarutoNineTails
06-06-2006, 06:57 PM
But really, this is a rather dumb question. Basing your opinions on little facts will get you nowhere. We can all sit here and argue who's the best, but when it comes down to the truth.. we don't really know.
Even if we don't have enough info, we can still base our arguments based on that small amount of info...no matter how small. Isn't that the basic essence of participating in a forum like this?
imported_Narusukashi
06-06-2006, 07:19 PM
But really, this is a rather dumb question. Basing your opinions on little facts will get you nowhere. We can all sit here and argue who's the best, but when it comes down to the truth.. we don't really know.
Even if we don't have enough info, we can still base our arguments based on that small amount of info...no matter how small. Isn't that the basic essence of participating in a forum like this?To some point, yes. But when you're basing opinions on facts that BARELY illustrate what a character is capable of, then it comes to the point where we start making up our own little stories.
If I were to make a "Vs" thread, I would use two characters we have seen and know their abilities and what they're capable of ie Neji vs Sasuke. There's an obvious winner; Sasuke. And if you need to know why, I suggest rewatching a few episodes.
NarutoNineTails
06-06-2006, 07:43 PM
Oh really then why don't you go and put your input in the neji vs sasuke thread and see how well you fare then. ;) I can say the same and say "rewatch more episodes"...lol.
And we do have quite lot of evidence for Kakashi. We also can deduct a lot about Gai from Lee also. So there is quite a bit to work off of with. Your opinion that we don't have enough to have a conversation with.
KageNaruto
06-06-2006, 07:46 PM
not to mention gai si capable of using ninjutsu/gengitsu, its just he prefers taijutsu.
also neji would beat sasuke^^
I think they are much about equal,but if i had to choose i'd say Kakashi,coz he just seems to be a better ninja to me. :P Also i totally laugh like everytime when Kakashi speaks.It's just so funny,lol. :lol:
Kuroda
06-06-2006, 10:25 PM
i guarantee Kakashi would win because he is always lazy and never gets serious when hes around Gai. Gai may seem faster and strong but with Kakashis nose like the Inuzukas, his brain like the Naras and reguarding hes goin all out he would win. but! if Gai opened the ninth gate ( witch would ultimately kill him) he could have power surpassing Yondaime! true dat
Masah
06-06-2006, 10:36 PM
http://leafninja.com/images/information/Kakashi2.jpg
Kakashi
Fact 1. Kakashi knows well over 1,000 jutsus.
Fact 2. Kakashi has the sharingan eye.
Kakashis' stats.
http://leafninja.com/images/information/stats/Kakashi.gif
Gai
http://leafninja.com/images/information/Gai.jpg
Gai is a master of TaiJutsu
Gai can unleash the gates
Gais' stats.
http://leafninja.com/images/information/stats/Gai.gif
Conclusion Kakashi has better stats altogether than Gai, Kakashi wins.
Kuroda
06-06-2006, 10:41 PM
yip, i agree with T3H ADMINISTRATOR NUMBER 1!!!!ONE!!!
animeking
06-07-2006, 12:29 AM
i think there pretty much evenly matched
kakashi has: is balanced and knows over 1000 techs which they showed all 1000 and 1 original tech Chidori
gai has: Super speed few ninjutsu and is very powerful + gates which is still beatable
not only that but gai knows how to fight a sharingan user to some extent
but kakashi is balanced and knows 1000 techs so he can probably do some kind of genjutsu or just trick him somehow with what he knows of him he is smart :D
but they seem even to me
imported_Narusukashi
06-07-2006, 02:49 AM
In any real fight, the opponent wont give the enemy a chance to perform their ultimate technique. It's just suicide, especially if you know what it's capable of. The reason why I basically said this Vs thread is pointless is because we havn't seen much of Gai, atleast in the anime. There's not much we know about him except for the fact that he trained Lee, so we basically base our opinions on that fact alone.
The whole thing with Gai looking at a Sharingan users feet is moot. He's putting himself at a disadvantage by not knowing what jutsu the sharingan user is using, and unless he tells us what the other way to beat a sharingan user is, then there's nothing else we can really say but the fight is a draw.
NarutoNineTails
06-07-2006, 03:37 PM
In any real fight, the opponent wont give the enemy a chance to perform their ultimate technique. It's just suicide, especially if you know what it's capable of.
And sometimes ultimate techniques are hard to prevent (eg. demonic mirrors, Amateratsu, Birth of Trees or Summoning, etc, etc) and in lot of cases for animes...ultimate moves are allowed to happen by his/her opponent.
The whole thing with Gai looking at a Sharingan users feet is moot. He's putting himself at a disadvantage by not knowing what jutsu the sharingan user is using, and unless he tells us what the other way to beat a sharingan user is, then there's nothing else we can really say but the fight is a draw.
What do u mean it is moot? That is currently the best way to approach a advanced sharingan user. It is better than fighting under hypnotic effects that sharingan can induce. Yes, focusing on one's feet makes it difficult to see what jutsus are being performed but it surely doesn't make it impossible the way u portray it...u seem to forget that focusing on sharingan user's feet is to provide ample room for error to avoid eye contact. One can focus on higher parts of the body and still avoid eye contact but of course that increases the likelihood of falling under tsukuyomi or hypnotic aspect of sharingan. There is also peripheral vision and don't forget that in animes they almost always call out the techniques. ;)
Lost Prophet
06-07-2006, 05:18 PM
well, a match can be many things. for example, a rock paper scissors match. of course, kakashi wins those. now, race, gai. strength, gai. justu, kakashi, etc.
Uchiha_Madara
06-08-2006, 10:44 AM
At Hair-Styles Gai owns Kakashi... cant match that bowl cut... *JOKES*
CRtwenty
06-08-2006, 11:23 AM
Yeah... Gai wins in terms of style...
I mean, those sparkly teeth alone...
What do u mean it is moot? That is currently the best way to approach a advanced sharingan user. It is better than fighting under hypnotic effects that sharingan can induce. Yes, focusing on one's feet makes it difficult to see what jutsus are being performed but it surely doesn't make it impossible the way u portray it...u seem to forget that focusing on sharingan user's feet is to provide ample room for error to avoid eye contact. One can focus on higher parts of the body and still avoid eye contact but of course that increases the likelihood of falling under tsukuyomi or hypnotic aspect of sharingan. There is also peripheral vision and don't forget that in animes they almost always call out the techniques. ;)
you make a lot of sense, but one thing that you've got wrong is that calling out the techniques, that's just so that the watchers can now what jutsu it is, since it's impossible to remember all the hand seals, so it's like they think the jutsus name, no calling it out to his opponent.
NarutoNineTails
06-08-2006, 02:14 PM
Nope...what do u call Naruto doing rasengans for example?
Naruto:
"RAAASENGAN~~~!!!!!!!!!!!"
Colormestupid
06-08-2006, 10:49 PM
Kuroda
"i guarantee Kakashi would win because he is always lazy and never gets serious when hes around Gai. Gai may seem faster and strong but with Kakashis nose like the Inuzukas, his brain like the Naras and reguarding hes goin all out he would win"
Thats by far the worst logic that i have ever heard in my life. You first try to convince that Kakashi would win by judging his personality around Gai, cause that shows who'd win. And lazy!? How is he lazy at all around Gai at all. And you also say it may "seem" like Gai is fasterand stronger than Kakashi as though you imply there is some meaning like kakashi is faster and stronger. I like you think that kakashi would win. But your logic is crap. [/quote]
KageNaruto
06-08-2006, 11:46 PM
do you see gai trying to kill kakashi? ofcourse hed be lazy hes always lazy unless hes actually fighting somebody
E_Juva_Zio_Umm
06-09-2006, 05:47 AM
tru tru but since kakashi is so layed down and calm gai would lose because if you get immotional you get distracted and you LOSE!
Nope...what do u call Naruto doing rasengans for example?
Naruto:
"RAAASENGAN~~~!!!!!!!!!!!"
lol, naruto is a stupid clumpsy idiot, we're talking about sharingan users, and still its just so that the watchers knows what jutsu it is.
Lost Prophet
06-09-2006, 05:40 PM
I think he means lazy because in ep 100, it shows how "lazy" he is. Hes calm, and instead of wanting to fight GAi, he chose rock paper scissors. lol, Gai got so excited over nothing.
Colormestupid
06-09-2006, 05:41 PM
I think this debate should be steered away from whether they would fight or not or their attitude around eachother. This is about "if" they fought. And i'd personally go with Kakashi, mainly because of his long ranged jutsus vs Gais taijutsu. Its like a gun vs a knife.
Lost Prophet
06-09-2006, 05:48 PM
I think this debate should be steered away from whether they would fight or not or their attitude around eachother. This is about "if" they fought. And i'd personally go with Kakashi, mainly because of his long ranged jutsus vs Gais taijutsu. Its like a gun vs a knife.that actually is a great way to compare them, but remember, gai is fast, and can "teleport" to behind kakashi, like he did in the first few eps in the 20's
NarutoNineTails
06-09-2006, 06:20 PM
Nope...what do u call Naruto doing rasengans for example?
Naruto:
"RAAASENGAN~~~!!!!!!!!!!!"
lol, naruto is a stupid clumpsy idiot, we're talking about sharingan users, and still its just so that the watchers knows what jutsu it is.
Even IF the real purpose is to show the users the name of the techniques you can't avoid the fact that is said out aloud. That is how it is almost always done for jutsus...that include the sharingan users.
That's not how it would work in real life...yes I agree but we are talking about Narutoverse. ;)
lol but still, they dont scream it out loud, geez
naruto's the only one who screams it out loud sometimes, no one other,
they "THINK" the jutsu, not scream it out loud.
KageNaruto
06-09-2006, 07:27 PM
lol but still, they dont scream it out loud, geez
naruto's the only one who screams it out loud sometimes, no one other,
they "THINK" the jutsu, not scream it out loud.
sasuke: katon gokakyu no jutsu!!!
kakashi: raikiri!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
everybody screams it aloud, the one of the few people that ever thought it were anko. sorry but even if we dont yell out the name of our moves in the narutoverse they do, and thats it
NarutoNineTails
06-09-2006, 07:34 PM
I hope u r kidding NMK...lol. The more you try to defend your argument here the more you look bad imo. ;)
Another simple example, their mouth moves when they call out jutsus NMK...if they are portraying thought in animes...their mouth stays closed.
kakashicopyninja
06-09-2006, 08:42 PM
its gonna be Gai for the simple reason that he fights without looking at kakashis sharingan..if he really wanted to win and used his gates and forbidden moves it would be over but when they fight it isn't that kind of fight
If it was serious I go w/ gai!
zoldic777
06-17-2006, 02:42 AM
hmmmm,I think its gai coz Gai is just more powerful then kakashi,I like kakashi more but when Kakashi was fighitng with Itachi he came and Itaqchi was Warning Kisame About Gai,and around the 20 first episodes when lee fought with sasuke Gai interfered and i think sasuke admitted in his mind that Gai is more powerful,SO STUPID REASONS YEA........
BUT I THINK GAI WOULD WIN VERY EASILY
And he can fight agaisnt sharingan and like, kakashi cant match him in taijutsu, so he would be forced to use ninjutsuwhich I think gai can avoid and bring it to a close fight, then its over!
yea if gai opened gates, kakashi's sharingan wouldn't be able to follow it and his seals that he performs would be too slow or weak to defend himself
Im not talking bout if he opened gates to fight sharingan, I mean the stategy he was about to use to fight Itachi!
KageNaruto
06-17-2006, 03:36 AM
and hes not talking about your comment, why is it always about you y.o.? lolz. but yeah gai + gates = kakashi pwnage
It always is about me, especially when my post is right above his!
well both ways he will beat him
and you should say "i agree with ak"
jk
yeah right, Im suprised you arent kage lvl yet, I thought you would have beat kage, and CR!
eh forum's been boring lately
haven't any reason to post cept fanfic and that new naruto game section
gai would win rock paper scissors gainst kakashi
o wait he already did :D
KageNaruto
06-17-2006, 03:49 AM
hell never beat me! bwahahhaha, stay on track you two! i wanna see gai do some kind of ninjutsu some day....
He did already, dispeal, and he lost rock paper scissor!
Im gonna buy that naruto ps2 game! Even though I dont have a PS2!!
KageNaruto
06-17-2006, 04:00 AM
ok...i wanna see gai do an offensive ninjutsu, i just wanna know which ones he knows
we have only seen a couple from kakashi, but I seriously dought he will use them!
qwertyu
06-26-2006, 12:03 AM
there is no way in hell that kakashi can win against gai in an one on one match. the people that say kakashi will win is because ur in love with that guy. the fact is kakashi cant win. u want to know why? because 1) kakashi is not of the uchiha bloodline, there for; when ever he use the sharingan he will lose double the charka require to keep it activate. 2) kakashi can never be able to see gai move without that sharingan. 3) gai know kakashi is useless without that sharingan so all he have to do is jsut keep running around kakashi with lighting speed. and kakashi will keep on forcing charka in to his eye to be able to see gai. and sice gai can never run out of charka because his speed do not require charka. and sooner or later kakashi will run out of charka and pretty much he is dead after that.
Chidongan
06-26-2006, 12:20 AM
true' Gai running around in circles does not require chakra. but it does require stamina. he will in some point run out of it and will have to stop.
im also guessing that kakashi is almost up to par with gai's speed. becuase the sharingan copies movements and allows the sharingan user copy those movements.
sasuke copied lees speed after he took of the weights in the gaara v lee fight. kakashi can probably do the same. but he just wont be able to keep up the speed that long.
and we havent really seen gai use any nin jutsu or genjutsu. becuase he normally sticks to taijutsu all the time.
qwertyu
06-26-2006, 12:40 AM
stemina is something that gai doesnt need to worry about. he can running the village for days without resting. and am pretty sure that kakashi sharingan wont last for more than an hour. sure kakashi can copy gai speed but it wont be as fast. and as long as kakashi is still using the copy speed the more chakra it will require to maintain that speed. hell, kakashi wont even last an hour.
AbdulRazack
06-26-2006, 03:19 AM
Kakashi may be able to copy movements, as Sasuke did with Lee, but don't you remember what happened to Sasuke? He wasted a lot more energy. Due to Gai's speed, th efight would follow around the same lines of Lee vs. Gaara. Gai would zoom around Kakashi, almost mocking his inability to catch up. He made Lee train with weights right? Lee trains in the way he does because he saw Gai do it right? Gai probably trains with weights ten times heavier than Lee's. Kakashi would try to copy but would be too slow to react in time. Gai would demolish him, because he can do Jutsu other than Taijutsu, and at that high speed? Total carnage man.
qwertyu
06-26-2006, 04:53 PM
that is true, kakashi body is not train to take that kind of abuse from the speed. his legs just wont be able to handle it. and beside gai already mentioned that he is stronger than kakashi. ( the ep. where the chunnin exam is held, where sasuke frist fight lee). GAI WILL PAWN KAKASHI!!!!!!!
Last-Crusader
06-26-2006, 05:28 PM
Kakashi >>>Gai X\ meh!
kakashi is so sexy X(
NarutoNineTails
06-26-2006, 10:17 PM
there is no way in hell that kakashi can win against gai in an one on one match. the people that say kakashi will win is because your in love with that guy. the fact is kakashi cant win. u want to know why? because 1) kakashi is not of the uchiha bloodline, there for; when ever he use the sharingan he will lose double the charka require to keep it activate. 2) kakashi can never be able to see gai move without that sharingan. 3) gai know kakashi is useless without that sharingan so all he have to do is jsut keep running around kakashi with lighting speed. and kakashi will keep on forcing charka in to his eye to be able to see gai. and sice gai can never run out of charka because his speed do not require charka. and sooner or later kakashi will run out of charka and pretty much he is dead after that.
I generally agree with this but chakra and stamina is intertwined imo...if u run out of chakra that means u r almost of stamina vice versa. Gai could jog for days end but I highly doubt he could run at fight level speed required to against Kakashi for as long as you say.
Ichee
06-27-2006, 02:59 AM
Kakashi doesn't have to be able to jog for days like Gai because he would beat him in 30 minutes....
I'm not saying this because I like Kakashi but because of what he is.....
He's a genius and was already mentioned with the title before he got sharingan....
Also he has superb taijutsu and has a very strategic brain......
Gai doesn't seem to be as sharp as him so I give it to Kakashi...
... well the gai beating kakashi thing was stupid i mean they played rock paper sisors so he could have beat him at anything!
ardayaman
07-04-2006, 10:26 PM
if gai can open his chakra gates like lee (he can do it right) kakashi has no chance.Kakashi cant even strike him and u cant use sharingan to a man who u cant see right
Ryouji
07-10-2006, 01:45 AM
I'd say Gai simply because Kakashi's Sharingan seems to take quite a massive toll on his chakra, and if Gai is anywhere near as fast as Lee, then Kakashi would need his Sharingan in order to follow his movements.
We can assume that Gai can also open the gates at least as far as Lee can, because he taught Lee. Not to mention how calmly he stated how many Lee could open, as if that was just some small feat.
And, for the record, Gai lost the Janken game to Kakashi.
Also, if they are "calling out" techniques for the viewere's benefit, I think they can stop on the Rasengan. If you've been watching the series through episode 192 and still can't identify the tiny blue ball Naruto makes in his hand with the aid of a clone, then you need to stop smoking weed, it's obviously affected your short-term memory.
NiteIce
07-16-2006, 04:55 AM
To be honest, I think Kakashi would win. Not because he is cooler than Gai, but because I believe, like Lee, Gai can only use Taijutsu (havn't read the manga so i'm not 100% sure). Although Kakashi's Taijutsu and speed may not match Gai's, he has still extremely skilled at Ninjutsu and Genjutsu which could easily give Kakashi the advantage in a serious fight. Even if Gai could open all 8 gates, which he probably can since he taught the technique to Lee and is a Jounin, high level Genjutsu could potentially render it useless, though if it can't Kakashi would probably be screwed unless he too can open all 8 gates. It would be an extremely close match still, and even something like the environment they fight in could determine the winner.
KageNaruto
07-16-2006, 04:57 AM
To be honest, I think Kakashi would win. Not because he is cooler than Gai, but because I believe, like Lee, Gai can only use Taijutsu (havn't read the manga so i'm not 100% sure). Although Kakashi's Taijutsu and speed may not match Gai's, he has still extremely skilled at Ninjutsu and Genjutsu which could easily give Kakashi the advantage in a serious fight. Even if Gai could open all 8 gates, which he probably can since he taught the technique to Lee and is a Jounin, high level Genjutsu could potentially render it useless, though if it can't Kakashi would probably be screwed unless he too can open all 8 gates. It would be an extremely close match still, and even something like the environment they fight in could determine the winner.
gai can use ninjutsu/gengitsu. he just doesent prefer it
DeathRelated
07-17-2006, 04:37 AM
Cats talk about opeing up the gates like it's some regular jutsu. It's forbidden for christ's sake. If it wasn't for Tsunade, Lee wouldn't even be a ninja anymore. And he only opened up 5. Going up to 8 is more of a trump card since there's a chance of your own death if you use it.
As far as who would win. Flip a coin. Heads for Kakashi and tails for Gai. That's who'd win.
KageNaruto
07-18-2006, 03:08 AM
Cats talk about opeing up the gates like it's some regular jutsu. It's forbidden for christ's sake. If it wasn't for Tsunade, Lee wouldn't even be a ninja anymore. And he only opened up 5. Going up to 8 is more of a trump card since there's a chance of your own death if you use it.
As far as who would win. Flip a coin. Heads for Kakashi and tails for Gai. That's who'd win.
lee = gates had nothing to do with not being a ninja. gaara was the one who caused lee's carier to (temporarily) end.
spoiler:
gai opened six gates and walked away like nothing happened
Azure Wrath
07-19-2006, 10:30 AM
Kakashi doesn't take gai seriously. If he would, then he'd rip gai a new a$$hole. Plus he wins in the 'coolness category'
Ichee
07-19-2006, 01:19 PM
Yeah definitely....
DeathRelated
07-23-2006, 03:35 PM
Beware of spoilers..
Gai didn't open gates one through 6. He only opened the 6th gate, the view gate. Think about it, if Gai really did open 6 gates, how could he have done that, beat a clone of himself and give a three day piggy back ride back to Konoha for Kakashi? There's a reason why it's forbidden. Forcing the limiters off your mind to push your body beyound it's breaking point is deadly no matter how strong you are.
KageNaruto
07-23-2006, 06:57 PM
deathrelated your spoiler may be not correct.
besides if one uses gates enough they become more resistant to it, also it may not be possible to open 1 gate at a time, wouldnt make any sense, then they wouldnt call it 1, 2,3,4 gate and so on, they would just have thier own names.
if you can open anyone you choose, theres no reason for numbering them
DeathRelated
07-23-2006, 08:44 PM
Actually, each gate IS specifically numbered. Go back to the diagram in chapter 10. It starts from the head to the base of the spine from 1 to 7 and comes back up to the heart to make 8. This gate is called the death gate btw. Also, if you notice Lee didn't open 5 gates all at once. He had to open each one by one. Then again, Gai is pretty skilled and maybe has found a way to bypass that. But, if he has found a way to open a certain amount of gates simultaneously, then he can certainly pick and choose which gate he wants to open since a different gate does something different depending on what he needs.
In the Lee vs. Gaara fight, they only real devasting blow Gaara landed was his desert coffin. But that only caught an arm and a leg. But when he was diagnosed by Tsunade he had "bone fragments lodged within vital parts of his nueral framework." And like Kakashi said to Naruto, his decision to use forbidden jutsu caused a tragedy. I don't deny that one could get used to opening a small amount of gates. But to open close to all 8 is simply suicidal. You're not nly pushing your body passed its limits, your doing it many times over. And no matter how strong you are, if you have can still open up the gates, that means your body still has its limits. And once you go beyond a certain point, there's no turning back.
Common sense applies to this!!
During kakashi explanation you see chakra forcefully moving through the gates in a path
Therefore whatever gate you open after 2 follows the same path of gates in order of 1-2-3-4 and so on!!
Vicious172
08-05-2006, 09:18 PM
Kakashi pls.
In the Lee vs. Gaara fight, they only real devasting blow Gaara landed was his desert coffin. But that only caught an arm and a leg. But when he was diagnosed by Tsunade he had "bone fragments lodged within vital parts of his nueral framework." And like Kakashi said to Naruto, his decision to use forbidden jutsu caused a tragedy. I don't deny that one could get used to opening a small amount of gates. But to open close to all 8 is simply suicidal. You're not nly pushing your body passed its limits, your doing it many times over. And no matter how strong you are, if you have can still open up the gates, that means your body still has its limits. And once you go beyond a certain point, there's no turning back.
haha I agrued that same point a long time ago on here. Even if you agrued Lee is younger, has a younger body, hasn't as much experience opening gates, you'll still get "L33 GUT CRUSHD BUY GAAARAZ SAND OKAY STOOPID???" :)
I dont know, I dont think just cause someone opens up gates, it wont make him invincible!!
But I dont know, I think that kakashi is good enough to come up w/ a decent enough stategy to get by the gates!
Anna Hatake
08-06-2006, 05:31 PM
Kakashi gai sucks and kakashi could beat while reading a book
THE NEXT HOKAGE
08-08-2006, 08:25 PM
Ight but gai would probably have a advantage not cause hes stronger but because he can render kakashis sharigan useless because he can fight by only looking at his opponents feet remember.
garrett01001
08-09-2006, 12:16 AM
kakashi would definately win, unless gai opened the last gate... in which case gai would win, but die afterwards..
Leevicky
08-09-2006, 02:22 AM
Kakashi -The Mysterious person !!!!
U can't know K's true real strength cause he never show off abt himself!!! ^^ K no.1
KageNaruto
08-09-2006, 01:27 PM
that dosent make sense. uve seen less of agi-_-
not to mention weve seen kakashi fight at his full(full strength at the current moment he did say he was out of shape, you damn lazy porno reading beer drinkin ninja!)
SasukeUchiha
08-10-2006, 09:33 PM
Kakashi I think would be stronger. Kakashi is lazy, but he does have good strength! As for Gai.....I don't much like him. Him and Lee are freaky! But to tell u the truth, its pretty hard to think who would win.
My Vote goes to Lazy Porno reading Ninja, Kakashi.
Kiba&akamaru
08-11-2006, 10:20 AM
Kakashi will win because kakashi has Sharingan and he will also win beacuse he is much faster and smarter. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: [/u][/url]
KageNaruto
08-11-2006, 10:47 AM
Kakashi will win because kakashi has Sharingan and he will also win beacuse he is much faster and smarter. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: [/u][/url]
-_-, well your first post what can i expect i guess.
sharingan will drain kakshi's chakra. faster, that made me laugh sooooooooo much
ArenaNinja
08-11-2006, 02:10 PM
I voted Kakashi but after serious consideration I think Gai would win. I mean, Gai took on Itachi and Kisame... And Itachi warned Kisame not to take him lightly. Gai stood to Itachi's Sharingan (prolly from practice against Kakashi). And yea, Gai is faster than Kakashi (prolly stronger as well). Kakashi is hella fast, but his specialty is more Ninjutsu/Taijutsu, whilst Gai is (from what we've seen so far) purely Taijutsu. Nonetheless, I think Kakashi has better (or prolly equal) strategies than Gai.
cloudette
08-14-2006, 03:54 PM
Oooh... this would be a good fight. I think the winner would depend on how seriously they were fighting. Gai would win if they weren't taking it seriously (he always tries hard). But, if they were, I dunno, but it'd be interesting ^^
imported_Greenlitflag
08-18-2006, 04:55 PM
Hard to say... We know that Gai has atleast one summon (the turtle) that we haven't really seen in action. I'm going to assume it's pretty strong seeing as how he is a jounin and all.
SeanRogers(Cc)
08-18-2006, 11:54 PM
Kakashi Hatake owns.
KageNaruto
08-19-2006, 01:35 AM
Kakashi Hatake owns.
and that makes him win!? i understand you are new, and i was a horrible noob too a loooong time ago, but think before you post. just cause you like kakashi does not mean squat! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa im stressed out! mendokuse!
NarutoNineTails
08-19-2006, 02:51 AM
Then again having the most post count here u sure do make mistakes yourselves. :P
KageNaruto
08-19-2006, 03:20 AM
Then again having the most post count here u sure do make mistakes yourselves. :P
of course i do :P
lol, i was just sressed about 1 hour ago about something, went on the net to calm my nerves, but it didnt work, lolz.
watching one piece helps though!
besides i gave him justice, i told him i was a noob too when i first got here
~Hyuuga Neji~
08-20-2006, 10:04 AM
err..kakashi for sure.. once he uses [major spoiler] mangekyo sharingan [spoiler] there is no match.. "i think"... :shock: :shock: but guy is not too bad too.. if gai has the chance to use [spoiler] Asa Kujaku [spoiler], then maybe kakashi wil be dead too.. i think the match is equal... :D :D
bob the ninja man
08-28-2006, 11:34 PM
ya i think gai would win cuz hes too fast for kakashi and if he opened the gates he would take kakashi out and also he would probobly be too fast for kakashis sharingan
imported_Aizen-diacho
09-18-2006, 08:54 PM
imo gai is stronger than kakashi.but kakashi is very versatile ninja.it'll be a lcose match but gai's tajitsus kicks too much ass for sharingan kakahsi and his 1000 jutsus.not to mention gai can open the gates to and i would hate to imagine kakahsi getting pileddrivered into the ground
DonEmu
09-18-2006, 08:58 PM
we already know that it is 50/49 against kakashi...though not all are real fights, some are stupid challenges like rock paper scissors....it depends on the day and who can think up a good strategy first...their strengths are close...
DCfunkyfresh
09-18-2006, 11:20 PM
Well...It would still be Gui No matter what you say because of his retarded 8 inner gates bit
imported_Aizen-diacho
09-19-2006, 07:30 PM
gai's tajitsus is surperior and so is his speed and force.but kakashi has better jutsus,the shringan and most likly smarter than gai.
Naruto-Dojo
09-23-2006, 03:22 PM
I think most of us are voting for Kakashi because we have all seen his powers, the series hasn't really shown much about Gai, except his training methods and punishments (referring to a punch in the face).
Being honest, I happened to vote for Kakashi :roll:
Flyin
09-23-2006, 09:48 PM
If they were ever forced to battle in strength or in pure hand to hand combat Kakashi would fail miserebly. But if they ever confronted eachother on any other field, like in an actual battle, Gai would get beat like a redheaded step child.
KageNaruto
09-24-2006, 02:34 AM
If they were ever forced to battle in strength or in pure hand to hand combat Kakashi would fail miserebly. But if they ever confronted eachother on any other field, like in an actual battle, Gai would get beat like a redheaded step child.
and how would this happen-_-?
NarutoNineTails
09-25-2006, 05:41 PM
Kakashi wins...why? cuz i said so...no no no...lemme take that back it is cuz kakashi is cooler. ;)
i think gai will win because he got the nunchaucks and the life gates that he can use. kakashi's got his sharingan and over 1,000 moves copy but theres one down side to that...he can't copy taijutsu moves!
Hirluin
09-25-2006, 05:52 PM
But Kakashi has awoken the mangekyo-sharingan, so I believe that he would spank the shit out of Kakashi!
Hyuuga11
04-13-2007, 06:35 PM
Kakashi is strong and none as the copy ninja who copied over a 1000 jutsu's and Gai is strong too and is none to be the taijutsu master he is none for his quick feet unlike lee hes faster and strong and now more taijutsu moves but kaksshi would copy all of them but gai is so fast he wont have time to copy his moves so i wonder if Kakshi would ever fight whit Gai who would win or would it be a tai.:confused:
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