Godaime vs Godaime

[st george]

Just wandering wat opinions are on hu has the strongest village leader. Who would win Tsunade or Gaara.

[eighttailedfox]

i'm not realy sure what gara can realy do now he has the demon out of him can he still control sand? becuase wasnt that a ability of the demon which is why him and that iron sand kazekage were the only ones able to ( well that we know about)

[Mudkipz]

gaara pwns tsunade. Tsunade only can punch really hard if gaara gets close, he'll get owned a little cuz his sand prolly can't take the blows. Then, gaara can use the Desert Coffin jutsu and kill her!

[KageNaruto]

tsunade. if they are in a dessert..... still tsunade but a very very close match

[Sol]

Well since we have no idea of Gaara's current powers, we should say that Gaara, is that Gaara Pre-Getting His Ass Pwned by Girly Man Dieadara. And unless Tsunade has developed much since we have seen her fight with Orochimaru, we can probably use the current Tsunade.

Although it would be a nice fight IMO, Gaara would beat her. Since Tsunade's abilities dont really help her at all when fighting Gaara. If she gets close, Gaara can use his sand to fly into the air, since I doubt his sand could withstand her attacks. Then he can attack with impunity as she really has no way to get up to Gaara's level. And even if she summoned her slug, Gaara could always go Shikaku Form and counter it. So ya, I think it would be a good fight, but Gaara would win.

[KageNaruto]

sol, gaara doesent have shukaku any longer. if he did he still wouldnt use it anyway. also tsunade is extremely good at evading (judging from her talking to sakura about that) so dodging gaara's sand wouldnt be too much trouble.

i still go for tsunade, shes a sannin after all, gaara is still like 15

[AK47]

I'd say tsunade, i mean 50 years of being a ninja and having a famous title, she has to beat a 15 year old.
although gaara has new and very good techniques which are really strong, i think she can still win

[Sol]

sol, gaara doesent have shukaku any longer. if he did he still wouldnt use it anyway. also tsunade is extremely good at evading (judging from her talking to sakura about that) so dodging gaara's sand wouldnt be too much trouble.

i still go for tsunade, shes a sannin after all, gaara is still like 15

Thats why in my example I used the "Pre-Getting His Ass Pwned by Girly Man Dieadara". You really need to read the entirety of somebodies post before making judgments. And the only reason Gaara didnt want to use the Shikaku any more, was because it would endanger his village. In a fight that had nothing to do with his village (say they were in the middle of nowhere, or in Konoha), I doubt he would refuse to use it if he had too.

As for her dodging Gaara's sand, you might be right. But the sand isnt something like a Shuriken or Kunai that can only fly in a direct path. He can control it to twist and turn in any direction he wishes. He can even make sand from the ground, so as long as Tsunade is ground bound, he can summon sand right beneath her feet.

[KageNaruto]

sol, gaara doesent have shukaku any longer. if he did he still wouldnt use it anyway. also tsunade is extremely good at evading (judging from her talking to sakura about that) so dodging gaara's sand wouldnt be too much trouble.

i still go for tsunade, shes a sannin after all, gaara is still like 15

Thats why in my example I used the "Pre-Getting His Ass Pwned by Girly Man Dieadara". You really need to read the entirety of somebodies post before making judgments. And the only reason Gaara didnt want to use the Shikaku any more, was because it would endanger his village. In a fight that had nothing to do with his village (say they were in the middle of nowhere, or in Konoha), I doubt he would refuse to use it if he had too.

As for her dodging Gaara's sand, you might be right. But the sand isnt something like a Shuriken or Kunai that can only fly in a direct path. He can control it to twist and turn in any direction he wishes. He can even make sand from the ground, so as long as Tsunade is ground bound, he can summon sand right beneath her feet.

true, but then kimimaro was able to dodge gaara's sand easily until he did that sand avalanche, and im sure tsunade can dodge better than kimi

[Sol]

True, but even Gaara was able to catch him. He made a cluster of sand beneath him which grabed him, holding him in place. I bet after a while of having his attacks evaded, Gaara would catch on and try the same thing with Tsunade.

[regina777]

true, but then kimimaro was able to dodge gaara's sand easily until he did that sand avalanche, and im sure tsunade can dodge better than kimii concur with this point of view. and the point of view belowI'd say tsunade, i mean 50 years of being a ninja and having a famous title, she has to beat a 15 year old.
although gaara has new and very good techniques which are really strong, i think she can still win

Tsunade has good taijutsu, and her strength, i doubt it is weaker than kimimaro's strength when he went to cursed seal level 2. We are talking about a legendary Sannin here, who has overcome her biggest weakness, fear of blood. i doubt even if Gaara had shukaku, he coulda beaten tsunade. Even though she may be weaker compared to other legendary sannin, anyone will think twice going against her.

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

umm even if tsuande was to get caught by garra's dessert coffin or funeral she cn't die in battle because of her cool auto heal jutsus.and tsunade would break garra down with her super human strenght

[Mudkipz]

he can heal from a state like that guy umm whats his face ummmm Kimi-something?

[y.o.]

that auto heal jutsu wont work when your entire body has been crushed!!

I say experience will be the biggest advantage, cause I think there evenly matched as far as power goes, but if they fought after he lost his demon, he wound not stand a chance!

[kjrav]

that would be true if we knew for sure he lost alot of power after his demon was taken away.I personally think Garra would win.As long as he stays in the air away from tsunade he can slowly wear her down w/t continues attacks that cause her to stay on gaurd at all times but unless really see them go at it we can't possibly know it's a toss up.

[CRtwenty]

With Shukaku I'd say Gaara would win.

Without, it'd probably go to Tsunade.

[Navid.]

Wouldn't Tsunade just summon that snail of hers and end it???

[st george]

^^^ Yeh good point. If naruto can beat shukuku gaara with a frog summon then surely tsunade can do the same with her slug summon, seeing as shes probably better at controllin it and using its powers

[CRtwenty]

Wouldn't Tsunade just summon that snail of hers and end it???

I doubt it. Tsunade's summon is a lot less mobile then Naruto's, and would be easy prey for Shukaku's air bullets.

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

but her slug can multply so if it was to get hi tby a air bullet it owuld proably splatter about sending it's clone all over

[CRtwenty]

And what exactly could those little slugs do to hurt Shukaku?

[Navid.]

Wouldn't Tsunade just summon that snail of hers and end it???
I doubt it. Tsunade's summon is a lot less mobile then Naruto's, and would be easy prey for Shukaku's air bullets.
Couldnt the snail (whats it's name??) transform (Henge??) just like what the frog did to gain mobility??

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

the frog has webbed feet which is good enough for him to make a seal to transform but maybe she might be able to use henge

[KageNaruto]

And what exactly could those little slugs do to hurt Shukaku?

barf out acid

[y.o.]

I think with or w/o shakaku, I think that we havent really seen what makes tsunda so damn strong!

I dont think that sannin fight showned even a quarter of her true ability, eveyone talks about other nin havin so many jutsu, I think that she has alot too, but sticks to her stong point med!

Im sure she would find a way through the sand shield!

[KageNaruto]

I think with or w/o shakaku, I think that we havent really seen what makes tsunda so damn strong!

I dont think that sannin fight showned even a quarter of her true ability, eveyone talks about other nin havin so many jutsu, I think that she has alot too, but sticks to her stong point med!

Im sure she would find a way through the sand shield!

im pretty sure her maxed out punch can break through it. also for gaara's attacking sand remember how gai kncoked it all away with a swing of his hand?

[kjrav]

But I still think it's over if he gets her in a desert coffin.

[KageNaruto]

yes, IF he gets her in a dessert coffin. if tsunade does one super punch on him it would be over too

[kjrav]

That's why I say it's a toss up.

[y.o.]

that tha whole thing, avoid it!!

If he gets almost anybody w/ that it would be over, there are a few exceptions! Kimi, and that chick from the 2nd movie!

Im pretty sure shes good at evading, after all thats what she taught sakura! And I think that shes pretty damn good at taijutsu!

[animeking]

my thougths on this match are

Shukaku still inside of him

Gaara VS Big boob err i mean tsunade >.> the winner would be gaara

look he can go up in the air with his sand while using sand avalanch and crushing her body with the sand with sand funeral and stuff like that doesnt matter gaara has a demon in him she has no chance >.> she cant punch something so high up it would be like fight nine tails while being a genin and knowing no jutsu excpet the basics you get murdered also for those who say she can knockem out BAD IDEA! Gaara + not conciouse = Shukaku at full power O_O murder i say MURDER and i doubt spitting acid would affect the shukaku much he well just shoot more bullets till the slugs disappear or it runs out of shakra and lets not forget tsunade will simply die


Any ninja VS a jinchuriki with a very weak seal like gaaras = DEATH unless of course they have a good strategy but i doubt tsunade can figure out everything about gaara and come up with a good plan

without shukaku

Gaara VS Tsunade winner well depends if gaara can still manipulate the sand he can try to levitate with it if he has enough power but assumeing it takes chakra than the winner is easily Tsunade >.>

[KageNaruto]

my thougths on this match are

Shukaku still inside of him

Gaara VS Big boob err i mean tsunade >.> the winner would be gaara

look he can go up in the air with his sand while using sand avalanch and crushing her body with the sand with sand funeral and stuff like that doesnt matter gaara has a demon in him she has no chance >.> she cant punch something so high up it would be like fight nine tails while being a genin and knowing no jutsu excpet the basics you get murdered also for those who say she can knockem out BAD IDEA! Gaara + not conciouse = Shukaku at full power O_O murder i say MURDER and i doubt spitting acid would affect the shukaku much he well just shoot more bullets till the slugs disappear or it runs out of shakra and lets not forget tsunade will simply die


Any ninja VS a jinchuriki with a very weak seal like gaaras = DEATH unless of course they have a good strategy but i doubt tsunade can figure out everything about gaara and come up with a good plan

without shukaku

Gaara VS Tsunade winner well depends if gaara can still manipulate the sand he can try to levitate with it if he has enough power but assumeing it takes chakra than the winner is easily Tsunade >.>

if gaara went shukakau its prob a loss for him. i mean naruto defeated gaara, even after shukaku took over somewhat. tsunade can summon the slug and do a super punch on gaara when hes on shukaku's head and its over. if she does that before he falls asleep itll be even easier.

i say if naruto can do it a sannin shouldnt have too much trouble

[kjrav]

Nope Her slug isn't as fast as Naruto's frog. it wouldn't keep up w/t Shukaku.

[KageNaruto]

all she has to do is jump off of it and nail gaara in the head, remember she jmped really high when she picked up gamabunta's saword and nailed manda with it

[kjrav]

Then she is a sitting duck for shukaku's sand bullets.while she's in the air she'll be shot out of the sky.

[y.o.]

It wasnt a sand bullet, it was a compressed air ball, and Im sure that slug can use do a henge transformation the same as gambuta, mobility!!

And eveyone keeps talking about garra riding sand, the only reason he did that was to chase diedra, he doesnt do that normally in a fight!

It would be in his best interest to not transform, and fight and even if he did ride a sand wave he wont be able to crush her summon!

Then take into account field, in suna he would most likely win, and even though he can make additional sand, I still see tsunada winning, she will find away to get to him and hit him!

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

lol YO your willing to admit that garra rides the sand when agaisn't an a opponent like Deidara now that it helps your arguement lol.and kagenaruto just because naruto beat garra the first time he's gained a whole bunch of new thecniques with his sand an dis much more formidable.but Tsunade can own him and he doesn't have the shukkaku anymore so stop bringing it up.Tsuande can dodge wya better than kimi who was able to dodge some of garra's attack when he used that avalanche thingy.and Tsuande cannot die so easily in abttle once again she has that seal which heals any wound.and tasunade can summon her slug giving her the advantage over garra and burning him to ashes with he slug's acid and i'm pretty sure her punch would break garra's sand shield

[KageNaruto]

lol YO your willing to admit that garra rides the sand when agaisn't an a opponent like Deidara now that it helps your arguement lol.and kagenaruto just because naruto beat garra the first time he's gained a whole bunch of new thecniques with his sand an dis much more formidable.but Tsunade can own him and he doesn't have the shukkaku anymore so stop bringing it up.Tsuande can dodge wya better than kimi who was able to dodge some of garra's attack when he used that avalanche thingy.and Tsuande cannot die so easily in abttle once again she has that seal which heals any wound.and tasunade can summon her slug giving her the advantage over garra and burning him to ashes with he slug's acid and i'm pretty sure her punch would break garra's sand shield

i dont think gaara gained any new shuakaku moves. in fact i dont think he transformed anymore since that time in konoha, in fact if he did the council might think he doesent have enough control and not appoint him kazekage.

i highly doubt gaara invented more shukaku jutsus.

[y.o.]

I knew someone would call me out on that, but I thought that it was gonna be kage LOL!!

But I admit when Im wrong, and I was thinking he would fight like that all the time, and until someone said it to me I was saying........... yeah thats true!!

And I woldnt say that she can dodge way better than kimi, possibly about the same

And in this fight hwe healing ability wont do shit, if she trapped by the sand she will be crushed, activated that seal wont do anything for her body, she would be dead instantly!

[KageNaruto]

unless he just gets one of her arms like he did with deidara. and if he dessert coffins her she can break out of it by summoning like naruto did lolz.

[animeking]

sigh ok lets try this again

shukaku gaara beats tsunade


tsunade vs gaara without shukaku tsunade wins


its that simple it doesnt matter if she lost her fear at the moment or if naruto beat ok maybe the fear things matter cause that affected her in combat but the naruto fight doesnt count and he would summon the giant shukaku it doesnt matter what the council thinks a fight is a fight and if he doesnt use it against a kage he is a fool im in a somewhat bad mood at the moment sigh nero is annoying but im pretty sure Shukaku Gaara has an absolute chance of winning against Tsunade and dont tell me he cant all tsunade has is alot of healing jutsu and as a physical attack she punches the earth and places around her with enough power to split them in half even if her attack breaks the sand defense the hand would be grabbed and her whole body would get covered in the sand and if gaara figures out her healing jutsu heal her he well probably torture her by getting as much sand as possible and crusing her body while using every orifice to send the sand into her body to crush her organs :twisted: or just crushing her till she can heal no more

[KageNaruto]

sigh ok lets try this again

shukaku gaara beats tsunade


tsunade vs gaara without shukaku tsunade wins


its that simple it doesnt matter if she lost her fear at the moment or if naruto beat ok maybe the fear things matter cause that affected her in combat but the naruto fight doesnt count and he would summon the giant shukaku it doesnt matter what the council thinks a fight is a fight and if he doesnt use it against a kage he is a fool im in a somewhat bad mood at the moment sigh nero is annoying but im pretty sure Shukaku Gaara has an absolute chance of winning against Tsunade and dont tell me he cant all tsunade has is alot of healing jutsu and as a physical attack she punches the earth and places around her with enough power to split them in half even if her attack breaks the sand defense the hand would be grabbed and her whole body would get covered in the sand and if gaara figures out her healing jutsu heal her he well probably torture her by getting as much sand as possible and crusing her body while using every orifice to send the sand into her body to crush her organs :twisted: or just crushing her till she can heal no more

its not that simple. in fact before the shukaku can even awaken or use airball attacks gaara has to fall asleep. if tsunade whacks him before that its over. also gama said that once gaara goes shukaku he slowly gains power till shukaku has its full power back. tsunade has a bit of time to knock gaara out of shukaku mode.

[y.o.]

Not to mention, you cant say what her jutsu's are we know that the 3rd, kakashi, itachi,

and Oro all know over 1000 jutsu but have a set that they prefere,

its safe to assume that she knows at least 500 jutsu, they cant all be med related

And since she has such extensive knowledge of poisons, and her apprentus using them, Im sure she has those too

Not just med jutsu!

[kjrav]

true,I still say it's a toss up tho.

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

tsuande does not need to activate her seal it activates itself she simply cannot di ein battle oro peirced her lungs wih his sword and she was still moving and talking if she get's crushed she's just gonna hela and break out of the sand.and garra did invent more moves especially with the shukkaku when he was fighting deidara the sand he was trying to grab her with resssembled the shukkau hand imo it was the shukkau hand but in sand form

[y.o.]

piercing and being crushed are 2 toatally different things, you can get shot and have the bullet go straight through, and get healed

Having a semi fall on you and crush every part of your being is something completely differnt, she cant heal that w/ that jutsu!

that jutsu can repair bad wound not her entire body, and she does activate that seal, its not automatic even shizune says she can heal her wounds and for her not to use the seal!

[KageNaruto]

yes tsunade has to activate the seal in order for it to be used. and the only way that can happen is if she survives the initial sabaku sousou on her own

[y.o.]

but I dont think thats possible, tha only person we've seen so far has been kimi and thats cause his body, and he even was forced to create masks underneath his skin to keep from being crushed!

[KageNaruto]

yeah i dont think its posible either, even if she starts healing in advance. bt she could summon to get out of it like Naruto

[y.o.]

yeah, and its possible that she has a ultimate defense she can activate if she does get caught, there was no need for kimi

everone seems to have one, or developing one! i.e. chidori current

So that is a possibility too, we just dont know tha extent of her powers!!

And like you said just do a summoning and get out that way!