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RandomGuy
06-03-2006, 02:05 AM
We learned in Chpt 309 that the Kyuubi has had dealings with Uchihas before, specifically Madara. We also know that Itachi especially wants to get the Kyuubi. Why does Itachi want the Kyuubi so bad? Do you guys think that the Kyuubi can somehow enhance the Sharingan? People think, myself included, that Madara was possibly the first user of the Mangekyou Sharingan. Maybe Kyuubi can enhance that ability? Or maybe Itachi can just exert much more control over the Kyuubi than the others would over any other demon. I dunno, what do you guys think?
KageNaruto
06-03-2006, 02:21 AM
itaxhi does not want kyubi. itachi wants all the demons cause thats what the akatsuki leader wants. itachi and kisame were just assigned to get naruto, like diedara and sasori were assigned to gaara.
and they want to put all the demons into the giant statue.
and about your theory, i think its really flawed, mainly cause nothing really makes sense
Ditto, what tha hell makes you think that he wants him bad, if that was the case they would have taken him when they 1st meet him!
Its just an assiment cause he knows the village, and the person who had the bijuu!
RandomGuy
06-03-2006, 05:58 PM
Wow whats your guys problems?
Who says they are all assigned specifically to one? You guys are probably right, but when Deidara asked Sasori which one he wanted, Sasori answered that he didn't care as long as he got to take one. Secondly, when Sasori was going to get a chance to get Naruto over Itachi, Itachi was like "..." and Sasori was like "Dont think badly of me Itachi." Itachi has been trying to get after Naruto for a while now. Also, some things suggest that Kyuubi is the strongest, based on Japanese mythology and even the simple fact that it has the most tails kind of suggests that. Why wouldn't Itachi want Kyuubi over all of them? And now we see that Kyuubi has a connection to the Uchihas so dont get all "What the hell makes you think..." with me.
Secondly, Yes KageNAruto, Im sure all the Akatsuki wants is to put all the demons into a giant statue so they can think to themselves, "Wow, what a badass statue we got here" every time they go home. Theyre obviously not thinking of using the power in any way....
Anyway, none of those are really my "theories", but rather just some random thoughts that occured to me as I was reading hte chapter. Instead of just telling me i dont make sense, why dont you actually give me something I can think about? If Sasuke can control Kyuubi inside of Naruto, why wouldn't Itachi be able to control Kyuubi inside himself? Secondly, obviously Kyuubi has had contact with an Uchiha before, both the Kyuubi and the Sharingan are apparently cursed/evil powers, Sharingan enabled Sasuke to see the Kyuubi inside Naruto and Kyuubi knows the Uchiha bloodline well. Doesn't there seem to be some connection there?
Wow whats your guys problems?
Who says they are all assigned specifically to one? You guys are probably right, but when Deidara asked Sasori which one he wanted, Sasori answered that he didn't care as long as he got to take one. Secondly, when Sasori was going to get a chance to get Naruto over Itachi, Itachi was like "..." and Sasori was like "Dont think badly of me Itachi." Itachi has been trying to get after Naruto for a while now. Also, some things suggest that Kyuubi is the strongest, based on Japanese mythology and even the simple fact that it has the most tails kind of suggests that. Why wouldn't Itachi want Kyuubi over all of them? And now we see that Kyuubi has a connection to the Uchihas so dont get all "What the hell makes you think..." with me.
I agree with you 100% on this one. Yes I belive that Itachi wants the kyuubi for himself, maybe because of thier (Itachi and the Kyuubi) mutual connection to Konoha. Or it could be becaue of the Uchiha's and thier Sharingan and its connection with the Kyuubi. Right now there are more questions then answers...so I cant say for sure.
Secondly, Yes KageNAruto, Im sure all the Akatsuki wants is to put all the demons into a giant statue so they can think to themselves, "Wow, what a badass statue we got here" every time they go home. Theyre obviously not thinking of using the power in any way....
AHAHAHAHAHa lol that one of the funniest things I have ever heard. "What a badass statue we got here". :lol:
KageNaruto
06-03-2006, 06:46 PM
hey id want a bad-ass statue. and what do you expect me to say? we have not one-woopedie frikin clue what it does, you want me to make shit up!? all we know is that they want em in the statue, why? we dont know, so why should i say anything else?
second it still barely makes sense to me. itachi might just want to get naruto because otherwise they might not find another jinchuuriki for a while. also since technically is the strongest maybe itachi can show hes strong or soemthing by getting kyubi, but i still think my own ideas like this are bull mainly cause they are very random speculation
what more do you want anyway, i disagreee with you, you dont like it, well too bad
animeking
06-03-2006, 10:49 PM
lol your funny random guy XD a badass statue bah it doesnt matter maybe the statue can be used as some giant Chakra Cannon or some crap like that but all these are theories kinda of pointless really XD even tho i do think it would be pretty cool for itachi to get the nine tails unto himself use its power and controll it at 9 tails transformation XD
superkhanh0
06-03-2006, 10:51 PM
if itachi obtain the 9ninetails he will become GOD
RandomGuy
06-04-2006, 08:06 AM
Dont get me wrong KageNaruto, I like a good discussion. It just bothers me when all you tell me is that I dont make sense. Thats just you telling me what you think of me and I dont see a point to that when all I want is a discussion here.
regina777
06-04-2006, 05:35 PM
Who says they are all assigned specifically to one? You guys are probably right, but when Deidara asked Sasori which one he wanted, Sasori answered that he didn't care as long as he got to take one. Secondly, when Sasori was going to get a chance to get Naruto over Itachi, Itachi was like "..." and Sasori was like "Dont think badly of me Itachi." Itachi has been trying to get after Naruto for a while now. Also, some things suggest that Kyuubi is the strongest, based on Japanese mythology and even the simple fact that it has the most tails kind of suggests that. Why wouldn't Itachi want Kyuubi over all of them? And now we see that Kyuubi has a connection to the Uchihas so dont get all "What the hell makes you think..." with me
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Instead of just telling me i dont make sense, why dont you actually give me something I can think about? If Sasuke can control Kyuubi inside of Naruto, why wouldn't Itachi be able to control Kyuubi inside himself? Secondly, obviously Kyuubi has had contact with an Uchiha before, both the Kyuubi and the Sharingan are apparently cursed/evil powers, Sharingan enabled Sasuke to see the Kyuubi inside Naruto and Kyuubi knows the Uchiha bloodline well. Doesn't there seem to be some connection there?
Great point you make here. and good evidence to back it up. I thought when sasori went to the sand and itachi went to konoha, akatsuki were sending members to places where they were linked to. But that didnt add up at all. Sasori left deidara to deal with Gaara. and further decided to get naruto by requesting it from itachi. So it may mean that each member is assigned one bijuu to retrieve, if one comes from a village, and each can get one if it is agreed upon or if the container is close by.
anyways, with the revelation of the sharingan been an accursed bloodline, endowing sasuke with evil chakra, even more evil than kyuubi's, there is a high probability that itachi may want the control of kyuubi since his evil resonates with his own (after akatsuki manages to extract it- that is supposing each member gets to control one of these bijuu's after they have all been extracted). As at now, it looks like attaining higher powers with the sharingan requires the path of maddening hate, anger, and power. What better choice to have these than by having control of a resonating evil chakra - a bijuu's like kyuubi's.
Glorious Ular
06-05-2006, 03:30 PM
I agree with RandomGuy and Regina on this one.
I have seen a logic theory on the akatsuki and thier releation to the jinchuuriki's . It was stated by japanese mythology that each were to obtain a specific tail to use for power. It was based on their ring position and meanings and also on the jinchuuriki'smeanings of all nine of them.
Im not 100% sure, you would have to read it.
Anyway im thinking that Kyuubi has a releationship with the uchiha's and that he has had a previous battle with one. And im pretty sure that Itachi wants Kyuubi, maybe for a secret that kyuubi has of the uchiha;because kyuubi states that he knows about the uchiha meaning that he either has killed one or has closely battled one.
My other thoery is that the only reason that the Akatsuki want the jinchuuriki's is to either contain them or use them for power. Because the demon beasts are the strongest force in the world and the Akatsuki's main objective is to become the strongest force, makes sense?? So by either destroying or capturing the demons they would become unstoppable.
Lastly where was it stated that Akatsuki want all the jinchuuriki's in a statue??? HAHA why would Itachi want to get the strongest bijju (kyuubi) of them all by just running into him?, even if he wanted to prove his strength, its obvious that he wants the kyuubi for info.
KageNaruto
06-05-2006, 03:56 PM
I agree with RandomGuy and Regina on this one.
I have seen a logic theory on the akatsuki and thier releation to the jinchuuriki's . It was stated by japanese mythology that each were to obtain a specific tail to use for power. It was based on their ring position and meanings and also on the jinchuuriki'smeanings of all nine of them.
Im not 100% sure, you would have to read it.
Anyway im thinking that Kyuubi has a releationship with the uchiha's and that he has had a previous battle with one. And im pretty sure that Itachi wants Kyuubi, maybe for a secret that kyuubi has of the uchiha;because kyuubi states that he knows about the uchiha meaning that he either has killed one or has closely battled one.
My other thoery is that the only reason that the Akatsuki want the jinchuuriki's is to either contain them or use them for power. Because the demon beasts are the strongest force in the world and the Akatsuki's main objective is to become the strongest force, makes sense?? So by either destroying or capturing the demons they would become unstoppable.
Lastly where was it stated that Akatsuki want all the jinchuuriki's in a statue??? HAHA why would Itachi want to get the strongest bijju (kyuubi) of them all by just running into him?, even if he wanted to prove his strength, its obvious that he wants the kyuubi for info.
when was it stated? it wasnt, but it was shown.
shukakau was sealed from gaara into a statue. when that happened one of the nine eyes on the statue opened, 3 eyes now being open. the katsuki also said the captured 2 jinchuurikis before, so now tih shukakau there were 3 eyes. they want the demons in the statue
The statue could be used as a temperary holding device. I mean, currently there is no known way to implant a Bijuu into a fully mature person. In both cases of Gaara and Naruto, they were born and then the creatures were sealed into thier newly cut umbilicle cords. Perhaps the statue is just a way to keep the Bijuu in a stable state untill they find a way to suplant them into themselves.
There are many more things they could be doing, and the statue could serve a number of purposes, so in truth there are sooo many different options that could be true, that discussing it is a mute point. Because none of us has more information then the other, so really all we are going off of is gut feeling.
KageNaruto
06-05-2006, 04:11 PM
true but my gut feeling combined with the fact that an eye opens every time a bijuu is sealed into it says that its unlikely for it to be a holding device
well technically it is holding them, no matter how you look at it!!
KageNaruto
06-16-2006, 02:43 AM
yes but its main purpose isnt for holding, dont try to be a smartass (sorry not insulting you but cant find a better choice of words)
well we dont know tha primary purpose so I would think that the primary purpose is containing at least of right now!!
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