Itachi/Kisame versus Sasori/Diedra and a special team

[Ichee]

Well yeah......

Another versus thread.... -_-

Just remember before you get mad I'm the flame king...lol

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

voted for itachi and kisame, oro and sasuke isnt good cause sasuke makes them lose, yes he is stronger than before but he aint as strong as the other guys yet, and i think kisame can take sasori and itachi can take deidara.

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

if this thread was about hich team would work better or something close to that i would have to go with sasuke/oro or Deidara/sasori. but in a vs threa like this itachi/kisame own the other teams.sasori alreay faced kisame/itachi in previous versus thread so they can pretty much kick his ass Diedara i can see taking on eof them out with his bombs proably kisame maybe even itachi but sasori/Deidara would lose to them.as for sasuke/oro itachi would kick sasuke's ass again it wou;n't look as bad but sasuke would sitll get pounded and oro would fight kisame eneded up owning him and itachi would come in and finish him off

[y.o.]

voted for itachi and kisame, oro and sasuke isnt good cause sasuke makes them lose, yes he is stronger than before but he aint as strong as the other guys yet, and i think kisame can take sasori and itachi can take deidara.

Seeing that, naruto has the ability to beat an atkuski member and as strong as he is now, and sauske is supposed to be stronger how do you figure that he not strong enough

And I think that Sasori can take Itachi and Sasori and diedra can take Itachi!

[KageNaruto]

voted for itachi and kisame, oro and sasuke isnt good cause sasuke makes them lose, yes he is stronger than before but he aint as strong as the other guys yet, and i think kisame can take sasori and itachi can take deidara.

Seeing that, naruto has the ability to beat an atkuski member and as strong as he is now, and sauske is supposed to be stronger how do you figure that he not strong enough

And I think that Sasori can take Itachi and Sasori and diedra can take Itachi!

sasuke isnt supposed to be stronger. oro was just saying that to anger naruto further if you think sasuke is stronger than 4tails youre whack

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Yes, also, naruto didnt beat an akatsuki member, dont forget deidara had none of his earth statue remaining, i doubt naruto could stop that giant explosion gaara stopped, deidara was just short on his statues, but i doubt he is weaker than sasuke.

[.Sask]

Since when did this vs. thread focus on naruto and sasuke? O_o.

Anyways, back on topic, I think that Itachi and Kisame would beat Deidara and Sasori. Seeing how Sasori got beat by Saskura O_o and the old lady, he doesn' look that impressive, but then again, she's been getting training not only for medical skills, but to increase her strength as well. I felt that Deidara could have done better in the kakashi/ Naruto vs Deidara fight, if he was well prepared. But since I've seen Itachi and Kisame fighting at 30% and using all of those wicked techniques, I'll stick with Itachi/ Kisame for the time being.

[CRtwenty]

In my opinions...

Deidara/Sasori would beat Itachi/Kisame
Itachi/Kisame would beat Orochimaru/Sasuke
Orochimaru/Sasuke would beat Deidara/Sasori

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Lol, so its a no-end circle, lol, can you tell me why would deidara/sasori beat itachi/kisame.

[y.o.]

voted for itachi and kisame, oro and sasuke isnt good cause sasuke makes them lose, yes he is stronger than before but he aint as strong as the other guys yet, and i think kisame can take sasori and itachi can take deidara.

Seeing that, naruto has the ability to beat an atkuski member and as strong as he is now, and sauske is supposed to be stronger how do you figure that he not strong enough

And I think that Sasori can take Itachi and Sasori and diedra can take Itachi!

sasuke isnt supposed to be stronger. oro was just saying that to anger naruto further if you think sasuke is stronger than 4tails youre whack

Actually Oro didnt say anything about sauske being stronger after naruto grew the 4 tail, and to answer such an absurd question no I dont think Sauske is stronger than 4 tailed Naruto, not even 3, w/o the curse seal, not even 1!

[Ichee]

I think Oro and Sasuke can take Sasori and Diedra...

I think that it will be a very interesting battle...

[Techno Dude]

This has my balls in a tangle.

[Ichee]

You're saying that you can't choose..-_-

I couldn't choose Sasori and Diedra because they are the weakest...

Itachi and Kisame is the storngest

And after seeing Sasuke go to work....

I can just imagine what Oro and him can do...

[y.o.]

I hate when people make staements as if they wrote the damn mange themselves!

What make you think that sasori and dierda are the weakest you must be out of your damn mind, read the gaara diedra fight again, in big ass bold letters it says this is atkuski, to beat gaara who had such a huge geographical advantage and lost yes lost

Itachi would have not been able to do that, and as far as sasori I dont have to much to say cause so far hes the strongest of atkuski that I've seen, for many different reasons.

And I seriously dought kisame would have beat gaara in suna too! Oro possibly and even sauske but your out of your mind calling them weak, or even the weakest out of that group!

[Masah]

I vote Sasori and Orochimaru, FTW

[y.o.]

That aint such a bad pick after we seen just a sample of sauskes power!

[AK47]

yay flaming!! long time no see.
anyways i think itachi and kisame would win
we didn't see much of them but i think they would win....

[y.o.]

I think people feel that way cause we know there back round and reputation!

[Masah]

Okay, now, refresh my memory, how does that have to do with Itachi+Kisame vs Sasori/Deidara? :-P

[Sol]

As much as I like Sasuke, I think that Itachi and Kisame working as a team is rather unbeatable. Kisame is powerhouse who uses alot of Suitons' and Itachi seems to be a ballence with a ton of good Katons. They can ballence eachother and cover for any weaknesses of the other. If Kisame is ever caught by a good Genjutsu user Itachi can come in and whipe it out with his Sharingan. And if there were ever a point where Itachi was paired against an opponent with greater strength, Kisame could back him up. I think these two are the most ballenced group of either of the three and would likely come out ontop if there were ever a showdown.

Deidara and Sasori would be my next choice. Both of them seem to be mid-long range types, so if a really good Taijutsu user got close it could be a problem, specially for Deidara. Deidara is probably the weaklink tho, since he can only hold a certain amount of explosive clay, the more the battle drags on the less effective he will get. However, he does have one big advantage over most in that he can fly. Sasori's multiple forms and types of attack make him really tough. In fact, I think that him loosing was just because he had a bad pairing of opponents. He got two medical nins, one that could cancel out his poison and the other that knew most of his moves and was an equally proficient pupet master. If either were not there I doubt Sasori would have lost.

Orochimaru and Sasuke would probably come out last. Orochimaru would fair well, but I think Sasuke would definetly be at a large disadvantage. From what I have seen of his skills so far hes Jounin level and maybe....maybe ANBU (still need to see more of him fighting to really make a decision) but not Akastsuki level. He might be able to take Deidara but not much else IMO.

[y.o.]

Well techniqually, anbu would be right at, or lower than a jounin, cause there are jounin and chunnin who are part of anbu and anyone who is a special jounin has left anbu!

And w/ the way you described Itachi and Kisame it sounds really good, and I agree w/ you although I think your underestimatin Diedra, your right he does rely on clay but as we seen hes still really good, enough to evade w/ no arms!

And he beat freking Garra in suna!! B/c they are both superb distance fighters and both smart, unlike Itachi/kisame I would go w/ them!

[Sol]

And w/ the way you described Itachi and Kisame it sounds really good, and I agree w/ you although I think your underestimatin Diedra, your right he does rely on clay but as we seen hes still really good, enough to evade w/ no arms!

I suppose I could be slightly underestimating him..........maybe. And evading isnt really going to win any battles, unless hes the distraction.....I can see the plan now:

Sasori: "Deidara this will be a tough fight! We must use formation Gayda!:

Deidara: "Yes I agree....yeah"

*Deidara starts screaming like a little whiny girl and runs around the battlefield*

Itachi & Kisame: "Wtf...........kill him first he's irritating............"

*Itachi and Kisame start chasing after Deidara, but since he evades so well they cant land a hit.

*Sasori shoots out a storm of poisoned needles catching both Itachi and Kisame in the back, paralyzing them both.

[y.o.]

thats kinda funny!!

But what I meant is that he has other talents thats obvious, and Im sure he knows earth type jutsu

Since hes from there but he just preferes exploding clay!!

In my eyes he would be a tuff opponet fo anyone, by far and he did beat garra

Its understood that hes the type of nin that needs to prepare, same and sasori and kankoro, cause he uses weapons

And the weakness to anyone who is a weapons master, take away there weapon!

But thats were I think diedra will suprise people I think he is still very formitable w/out clay, its just that he had no arm!

But his limited amout of clay is his weakness, but as we seen he has alot of variety and no one will survive if he flys up and uses that special exploding clay, its game over for anyone!

[Sol]

Ya after all.....he did sufocate that one guy to death, using only his legs. :wink: He has to be pretty nimble to pull that off. : P

But seriously, that guy really needs to take out some insurance on his arms. The only person in history to misplace his arms as much was Anakin Skywalker. : P

[Uchiha Adrian]

LOL who voted for oro and sasuke, sasori only lost to sakura and the grandma because she pratically knew how to fight him all his weaknesses etc.

[CRtwenty]

Deleted all the flaming: Ichee and y.o., try to tone it down a notch. If you keep doing stuff like that it'll be a suspension. So, let's try and keep it PG ok? Or at the very least take it to PMs.

[KageNaruto]

kisame and itachi, sasuke and oro are fighting down below. diedara flies over them drops his giant bomb and they all die. the end

[AK47]

kisame and itachi, sasuke and oro are fighting down below. diedara flies over them drops his giant bomb and they all die. the end
[sarcasm] i agree i mean if they drop a bomb on them they will just stand there and go "AHHH IT'S COMING, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TO STOP IT, AHHHH THE SUN IS IN MY EYES, AHHHHHH"
6 seconds later " AHHH OH MY GOD THE BOMB IS COMING!" BOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! i mean seriously they will die [end of sarcasm]

[Sol]

Thats almost as good of a tactic as Sasori's and Deidara's Gayda formation! :D And strafing, because as everybody knows nobody can touch you if you are strafing.

[Ichee]

CR I know you're a mod and all but you could had just deleted he flame parts of my post.... -_-

Anyway....

Sasori and Diedra is the worst pick...

Reasons why....

Sasori lost to his grandmom and a 15 year old girl....

Diedra is his underling...

my point exactly

[y.o.]

kisame and itachi, sasuke and oro are fighting down below. diedara flies over them drops his giant bomb and they all die. the end

This aint sarcasm, this is totally possible, and unless someone has a jutsu like kakashis there all dead, and Im sure that diedra can get sasori out of there saftly!!

[PA[kakashi]CO]

u asked which team is superiour, not which team will win in a fight, therefore i have to say that the match up of akatsuki's Itachi and Kisame is really well done, Kisame can handle almost anyone with his amazing chakra and his samehada, and Itachi is just an amazing fighter, all he has to do is look you in the eye and your in trouble, seeing as there are only 2 or 3 people that have the sharingan that can fend off his genjutsu.

[KageNaruto]

CO]u asked which team is superiour, not which team will win in a fight, therefore i have to say that the match up of akatsuki's Itachi and Kisame is really well done, Kisame can handle almost anyone with his amazing chakra and his samehada, and Itachi is just an amazing fighter, all he has to do is look you in the eye and your in trouble, seeing as there are only 2 or 3 people that have the sharingan that can fend off his genjutsu.

theres 4 people

sasuke
itachi
kakashi
and that other person that was said to be able to use mangekyu, i think its tobi since i think hes obito

[Ichee]

If it turns out Sasuke has Mengekyou that makes chances of Sasori and Diedra beating Oro and Sasuke even worse

[y.o.]

CO]u asked which team is superiour, not which team will win in a fight, therefore i have to say that the match up of akatsuki's Itachi and Kisame is really well done, Kisame can handle almost anyone with his amazing chakra and his samehada, and Itachi is just an amazing fighter, all he has to do is look you in the eye and your in trouble, seeing as there are only 2 or 3 people that have the sharingan that can fend off his genjutsu.

theres 4 people

sasuke
itachi
kakashi
and that other person that was said to be able to use mangekyu, i think its tobi since i think hes obito

So Itachi can fend off his own genjutsu, sounds like that should be possible!!

[Ichee]

I think that Orochimaru and Sasuke can kill majority of Akatsuki.

[y.o.]

It seems like they can, cause there only afraid of Itachi!

[KageNaruto]

It seems like they can, cause there only afraid of Itachi!

and you know they are not afraid of the others how? one, oro is not afraid of itachi. he just admits he is weaker. oro never mentioned the other akatsuki, hell he didnt even say "im weaker than the leader". does this make him not afraid of the leader? does it make him stronger than the leader? no

[y.o.]

It seems like they can, cause there only afraid of Itachi!

and you know they are not afraid of the others how? one, oro is not afraid of itachi. he just admits he is weaker. oro never mentioned the other akatsuki, hell he didnt even say "im weaker than the leader". does this make him not afraid of the leader? does it make him stronger than the leader? no

Cause I have a feeling that even if Oro had the same oppritunity to ambush Itachi on that bridge, he wouldnt have done it!!

And Just the way he said w/ confidence that he would let team 7 get rid of some more atkuski members, just seems like he doesnt have respect for any of the other members

But he knew that they were going to fight Itachi, cause even naruto cant beat him!!!

That's why!!

[Ichee]

I agree...... -_-

I believe Orochimaru was on a higher rank than Sasori so he didn't give a fuck and was planning to kill his ass....

I agree if Itachi was on that bridge he probably walk around that bridge on his way home from the supermarket.... The only dumbass that would cross that bridge is sasuke who would get pawned again....


but.... After seeing Sasuke display of power and ORochimaru willing to kill Sasori I believe that they would destroy Diedra and Sasori.....

I don't think Sasuke can take Sasori but I believe he have a chance against Diedra...

[y.o.]

LOL! Even sasuke would do that now, cause he seems alot smarter and wont do that shit again, he knows hes no match for Itachi at his present lvl, hell he knows his sensai is no match, so there would be no point in getting his ass whooped again!

I dont think sauske would have a chance agaisnt diedra either, people underestimate him!! He did defeat garra, alone, in suna, nuff said!

[Ichee]

No I think Sasuke got him.....

Sasukes is as strong if not stronger than Kakashi right now...

and if you compare Kakshi to Gaara it's clear that Kakashi would pawn Gaara....

I definitely think that Kakshi would kill Diedra.. Dieda just got that clay but his arms are destroyed now..

[y.o.]

I believe that sasuke is stronger than kakashi right now thats why hes training naruto to do the same!!

He relizes that narutos only chance to fight sasuke epually, is if naruto surpasses him too!!

But I dont think that sasuke, or kakashi, can take any member of atkuski on alone!!

[Ichee]

Well now we know Sasuke has GOD's hand in his power right now and I say that Orochimaru and Sasuke can beat Diedera and Sasori together.

[Seta Soujirou]

I feel the best team would still be Kakuzu and Hidan...if its a 2 on 2...the chances of them losing are very low...cheerz

[soggie]

Well for one thing, Deidara and Sasori don't have team work. Kisame is pretty much tame under Itachi's lead, and they work well together.

Teamwork - Itachi/Kisame Win

Now onto power. Since there is no way to properly compare them, let's take a look at their individual prowess.

Deidara is a long range fighter, and deals damage in huge portions but is not exactly good up close range. He's like artillery or a howitzer. Against Itachi, he would have to stay far away, and be careful of his sharingan. I don't see the bombs getting copied by sharingan any time soon so he can use his jutsus without fear of being copied. But problem is, Itachi is a master of ninjutsu, and MS might have other abilities that like Kakashi, could be used to even the playing field. Thus, I think in a Deidara vs Itachi fight, Itachi would definately have an advantage.

Now Deidara vs. Kisame. Kisame is pretty much a brawler, again a close range expert. The odds will sway greatly in Deidara's favour - all he needs is to stay out of range of Kisame's water based attacks, and hammer him head on with all the bombs he has. However, there's one slight problem - Kisame has loads of chakra, and Deidara has only one arm left. If the battle drags on, sooner or later Kisame would be able to get close enough to land one blow - and that's the end of Deidara if that happens. So it is pretty evenly matched between Deidara and Kisame - with Deidara dominating in the beginning and Kisame having advantage in longer battles.

Sasori is a puppet master, and again it is a wide-area damage thingy which is good against multiple opponents. He would be ultimately invincible against genjutsu, and again sharingan is useless against him since you can't really copy puppets. Against Itachi, I would expect a pretty even fight - Sasori's only hope of winning would be overwhelming Itachi with puppets while finding a way to sneak up an attack or two. The poison would do the rest. Itachi however, is smart, and thus if these two would fight, it'll be a showdown of tactics and trickery.

Sasori vs Kisame is quite a different matter. Kisame has loads of chakra, and Sasori being a medium-range fighter without means of isolating himself away from harm (like Deidara flying around), would have to force Kisame to keep his distance. I'd say the odds are slightly in Kisame's side, and again Sasori would have to overwhelm Kisame in order to win. If the battle drags on however, Kisame would definately gain an upper hand. Think about it - you only have limited number of puppets. Once they are gone, you're down to nothing, and Kisame would probably still have loads of chakra left.

In a teamwork situation, most probably Sasori and Deidara would refuse to work together, due to pride. Both think they are the better artist and wouldn't hesistate to kill each other to defend that title. Therefore I don't think they would help each other willingly unless forced.

Kisame and Itachi however, work in a perfect team. Kisame clearly shows great respect towards Itachi, and that makes him a good pawn that Itachi can use to gain the upperhand, and finish off both Deidara and Sasori.

That's my take on the vs.

[Toxic Anarch]

i just thought of a perfectly evil villian...i would put Itachi's strengths but i would give him Deidara's attitude...i think hes the coolest Akutsuki man...

[Hidden Ninja]

sasori would without a doubt own kisame. all sasori has to do is take out his ultimate attack or even the kazekage and attack mid-long distance. kisame can only swing his sword so fast and so many times before he gets hit by something.

[soggie]

sasori would without a doubt own kisame. all sasori has to do is take out his ultimate attack or even the kazekage and attack mid-long distance. kisame can only swing his sword so fast and so many times before he gets hit by something.

Thing is, Kisame has some pretty powerful water attacks too, which is medium to long range. Kazekage's metal sand wouldn't be effective if they were submerged in water, right?

[Omaki_Roku]

Dederia Wins, Explosions and or Explosives stay shitting on all Powers Mentioned.

I dont need to go into detail about this, but the dude made a fucking C-4 explosive that was gonna lay waste to the whole Suna Village.

By himself


then He made a clone with no chakra that made a massive explosion that needed to be teleported away before it offed 6 great ninjas.




Dederia by himself with that bird is basically a B29 Bomber carrying the A Bomb.


As of yet ive seen nothing thats worth mentioning that matches the above.

Not to mention

Dederia
Is undefeated

with two, Tailed beasts taken under his belt.

[el naruto]

Thing is, Kisame has some pretty powerful water attacks too, which is medium to long range. Kazekage's metal sand wouldn't be effective if they were submerged in water, right?

I agree with you, Everyone kinda throws Kisame Aside but he dosent just have a really strong sword he has very good and probably really powerful water jutsus, and even though he acts as the junior in the group(Of itachi and Kisame) does not mean he is a push over he has great chakra capacity and in my opinion we havent even seen him even close too even showing us his stuff.(He even made Gai Go 7th gate against a 30% clones dosent that show you something).

[10sarg]

true kisame is extremely powerful, just a bit dumb compared to someone like itachi - but i'd say most are dumb when compared to itachi. neway kisame and itachi are the uber strong group here and can deal with any of these enemies.

[Ichee]

Kisame isn't dumb but his love for fighting makes it seem so... thats why I think that will be his biggest weakness.

[Omaki_Roku]

you know whats cool, Whooping somebody in their home town when they got the clear advantage.


Garaa was like the San Diego chargers getting elimnated by the Dederia patriots.


lol

[el naruto]

Kisame isn't dumb but his love for fighting makes it seem so... thats why I think that will be his biggest weakness. Yeah true Kisame in konoha just wanted to fight his hunger to fight makes him seem ignorient but thats what he is a "Weapon".

you know whats cool, Whooping somebody in their home town when they got the clear advantage.


Garaa was like the San Diego chargers getting elimnated by the Dederia patriots.


lol

LOL, but dederia only has a limit to how much clay he has and im sure kisame and Itachi would just dodge them all day intill he ran out then find a way to
woop his ass.

Edit: Also deidra was just facing Gaara alone, Kisame And itachi where in Konoha Facing 2 oppenents each, Kisame Vs Gai and Asuma, and Itachi Vs Kakashi and Kurenia i think, And they werent even trying they were just messing around trying to find naruto.

[sakurachanhaha]

Easily Itachi and Kisame

[10sarg]

i think diedra even with a massive supply of clay couldn't handle for one second itachi using MS and as for sasori kisame would own him all day long with his water jutsu's.

[Omaki_Roku]

Garaaa had unlimited Sand and Dederia had limited clay

guess who won that match :)

Dederia has enough clay to get the job done anytime.

Oh BTW
Explosives > Illusions and water


this match is over
and there needs to be no further explanation other than the above.
lol

"Ill show you that art is a bang"


Dederia rules

[10sarg]

Garaaa had unlimited Sand and Dederia had limited clay

guess who won that match :)

Dederia has enough clay to get the job done anytime.

Oh BTW
Explosives > Illusions and water


this match is over
and there needs to be no further explanation other than the above.
lol

"Ill show you that art is a bang"


Dederia rules

Yeah she fought and beat gaara, big whoop, she only got to him through his weakness of looking after his village. Itachi and kisame dont give a sh*t about anyone else so she cant exploit that weakness.

Also itachi can explode his clones just as well as deidra can so removes that amazing skill.

what a load of cr*p u talk, the illusions you talk of would put her exploding body in an alternate dimension to die. Just like kakashi did with a bit of her elbow. Also you can smother an explosion with water, it takes out the fire ascpect of the water and as water is pressured it removes the force of the explosion.

[WalkingFish]

kisame would mall their asses by himself
duh...

[Ichee]

Garaaa had unlimited Sand and Dederia had limited clay

guess who won that match :)

Dederia has enough clay to get the job done anytime.

Oh BTW
Explosives > Illusions and water


this match is over
and there needs to be no further explanation other than the above.
lol

"Ill show you that art is a bang"


Dederia rules

You're so much of a fan boy that it blinds your arguements with illogical answers.

Anyway, Diedera is alright, he did accomplish the most so far that we seen but it does not mean he can take out Kisame or Itachi. Kisame is basically a beast and would destroy him, while Itachi would just raped the shit out of him without trying.

[Omaki_Roku]

You're so much of a fan boy that it blinds your arguements with illogical answers.

Anyway, Diedera is alright, he did accomplish the most so far that we seen but it does not mean he can take out Kisame or Itachi. Kisame is basically a beast and would destroy him, while Itachi would just raped the shit out of him without trying.



not really illogical, they are more of on the lines of undetailed answers.

I dont really want to get into a in dephth arguments anymore on this site im over it, so simple explanation is enough for me.

I dont care too much, but obviously you do so go ahead and post a 3 page biblical statement on why you think itachi or the others may win.

and in the end ill say

Grenades and explosives > Ichees Bible



I mean we all know Itachi is one of the Main archs of the story, so of course its only obvious they are gonna make him all strong and powerful. Hes probably maybe second only to the Leader. But reguardless of all that, Ill vote for Dederia.

Cause although hes not a Main arch or big major player, hes been kicking a good amount of ass and has won my respect.

[el naruto]

Garaaa had unlimited Sand and Dederia had limited clay

guess who won that match :)

Dederia has enough clay to get the job done anytime.

Oh BTW
Explosives > Illusions and water


this match is over
and there needs to be no further explanation other than the above.
lol

"Ill show you that art is a bang"


Dederia rules

Someones brought this up too, gaara protected his village deidra knew he was strong and had to get the advantage to win, Kisame and Itach would also kick Gaaras ass all over the place. Him beating Gaara isnt that amazing.

[Ichee]

not really illogical, they are more of on the lines of undetailed answers.

I dont really want to get into a in dephth arguments anymore on this site im over it, so simple explanation is enough for me.

I dont care too much, but obviously you do so go ahead and post a 3 page biblical statement on why you think itachi or the others may win.

and in the end ill say

Grenades and explosives > Ichees Bible



I mean we all know Itachi is one of the Main archs of the story, so of course its only obvious they are gonna make him all strong and powerful. Hes probably maybe second only to the Leader. But reguardless of all that, Ill vote for Dederia.

Cause although hes not a Main arch or big major player, hes been kicking a good amount of ass and has won my respect.

-___-

This was a dumbass reply... "not really illogical, they are more of on the lines of undetailed answers."

Anyway, I'm not even going to elaborate on this anymore because I already stated my arguements in this thread and I won't be able to change a Diedratard mind.

[Mr. K]

ummm Kakashi MS Deidara bad = Itachi MS Deidara BAD

[y.o.]

not really illogical, they are more of on the lines of undetailed answers.

I dont really want to get into a in dephth arguments anymore on this site im over it, so simple explanation is enough for me.

I dont care too much, but obviously you do so go ahead and post a 3 page biblical statement on why you think itachi or the others may win.

and in the end ill say

Grenades and explosives > Ichees Bible



I mean we all know Itachi is one of the Main archs of the story, so of course its only obvious they are gonna make him all strong and powerful. Hes probably maybe second only to the Leader. But reguardless of all that, Ill vote for Dederia.

Cause although hes not a Main arch or big major player, hes been kicking a good amount of ass and has won my respect.

I agree, I voted for sasori and diedra.... I think that there the best, I think that sasori would poison Itachi, and kisame would lose to diedra..... just cause hes a beast!!

Diedra doesnt lose his cool and I dont think that he would lose to someone whos all power like that.... it would take someone like Itachi to beat him.

And sasori being a child protigy himself would beat him, I think if he doesnt have an antidote then hes screwed, cause he cant avoid everything.... and sasori wins!

[Josephus]

Sasori and Deidara really do take this power wise.

Deidara is truly a great shinobi. He has great manuverablity with that bird of his, and powerful long range attacks. In all honesty, no matter how strong you are a bomb going right off next to you or on top of you is going to hurt a lot. Just like how a sniper was able to kill captain america.

Sasori was a beast. He is pretty much immune to genjutsu from Itachi as he is a puppet. It only takes a scratch from any of his attacks to kill anyone. With his huge arsenal of attacks it seems pretty impossible that unless you already had an antidote you could survive in a battle with Sasori. Itachi and Sasuke might do decently becuase of the Sharingan, but even they get hurt during their battles.

So I honestly think Deidara and Sasori as a team are much more powerful then the others, but teamwork wise they would be the worst. Kisame and Itachi would beat them there.

So for a battle between the two it would depend on the tactics of both sides.

[XxXItachiXxX]

Itachi's Amaterasu pwns all. one hit and bye bye. There is no defense for it. All he has to do is use Kage Bunshin and distract you and tell a story while the real one sits on a tree and uses Amaterasu. The Mangekyo Sharingan is too cheap.

[XxXItachiXxX]

Someones brought this up too, gaara protected his village deidra knew he was strong and had to get the advantage to win, Kisame and Itach would also kick Gaaras ass all over the place. Him beating Gaara isnt that amazing.

Gaara i think is better than Kisame. Gaara's jutsus are way too good for Kisame, the quicksand jutsu he used on kimmimaru will do the job.

[thefiregal]

Kisame would destroy Garra

[Xlayer]

agree, gaara is ok as long as he has his sand, but kisame uses water jutsu, and gaara would have problems fighting with wet sand, yeah, i watched the fillers, but it actually makes sense

[Greenlitflag]

Itachi's Amaterasu pwns all. one hit and bye bye. There is no defense for it. All he has to do is use Kage Bunshin and distract you and tell a story while the real one sits on a tree and uses Amaterasu. The Mangekyo Sharingan is too cheap.
If anything, sasori is the cheap one. Being able to summon a 100 puppet army? Having each puppet (I believe) loaded with poison that will kill the person unless find a very specific antidote... being able to summon the strongest kazekage at will... being able to use the iron sand and put poison into it, etc. Hell, dodging all of that sounds like child's play compared to just "not looking at Itachi's eyes." With that said though, I think Itachi and Kisame might win.

[el naruto]

Gaara i think is better than Kisame. Gaara's jutsus are way too good for Kisame, the quicksand jutsu he used on kimmimaru will do the job.

Are you f*(king joking me Kisame weaker then Gaara? thats a joke right? Kisame could take out the mizukage with ease and would own gaara all over the place can Gaara take Gai at 7th gate with a 30% clone dont think so.
Kisame is WAY POWERFUL we havent even seen him use any super jutsus and i know hes ganna pull them out and there ganna be insane, Itachi and Kisame havent shown there whole arsenal yet and when they do its ganna be destructive.

[Greenlitflag]

Are you f*(king joking me Kisame weaker then Gaara? thats a joke right? Kisame could take out the mizukage with ease and would own

Kisame tried to kill a mist feudal lord or daimyo, not the mizukage (as far I know.) We don't even know anything about the mizukage.

[el naruto]

Kisame tried to kill a mist feudal lord or daimyo, not the mizukage (as far I know.) We don't even know anything about the mizukage.

My bad then. Not the Mizuke my mistake.

[XxXItachiXxX]

My bad then. Not the Mizuke my mistake.

Tenten could kill a feudal lord. I dont think Gai at 6th gates not 7 can dodge Gaara's sand wave (forgot name) where he used on kimmimaru.

[el naruto]

This is pre-tim skip but, remember when Gaara was about to finish Lee, Gai smacked his sand away with one hand no effort no gates open just a quick smack and his sand flew away, and kisame pwned Gai hardcore theres another thing showing gaara could not take kisame.

[Omaki_Roku]

-___-

This was a dumbass reply... "not really illogical, they are more of on the lines of undetailed answers."

Anyway, I'm not even going to elaborate on this anymore because I already stated my arguements in this thread and I won't be able to change a Diedratard mind.

this translates to:

"Im mad at Omaki Roku again."


we dont need your elaboration ichee cause nobody cares.

you just found out what you should of understood from my first post.
(you're pretty slow) :(

cause no matter what anybody says, what strategies they dream up.

I stick to my guns.

im a fan of Dederia like im a fan of any sports team
You and your childish insults need to fall back, cause you're about as funny as watching paint dry. Try again when you stop reading your lines off the back of a cereal box.

[Ichee]

this translates to:

"Im mad at Omaki Roku again."


we dont need your elaboration ichee cause nobody cares.

you just found out what you should of understood from my first post.
(you're pretty slow) :(

cause no matter what anybody says, what strategies they dream up.

I stick to my guns.

im a fan of Dederia like im a fan of any sports team
You and your childish insults need to fall back, cause you're about as funny as watching paint dry. Try again when you stop reading your lines off the back of a cereal box.

I laugh every time you reply to my post with those lines that date back to the 50s... Hold on, as a matter of fact everything you write sounds like it came from half a century ago. LMAO.. You must be a fan of your grandmom jokes... just a lil advice... they suck so become up to date and try to be more like me, Ichee.

-_-

[XxXItachiXxX]

This is pre-tim skip but, remember when Gaara was about to finish Lee, Gai smacked his sand away with one hand no effort no gates open just a quick smack and his sand flew away, and kisame pwned Gai hardcore theres another thing showing gaara could not take kisame.

You said it yourself, pre-time skip. Pre-time skip Gaara was much weaker and had much less jutsus. Of course I was commenting on Gaara being stronger than Kisame before Shukaku was taken.. now I have no idea how good Gaara is. Kisame pwned Gai by using water. Now I ask myself, would i rather see water coming at me or sand? what do you think? Gaara can basically change a forest to a desert as we've seen and he can absorb anything into his sand like he did with kimmimaro.

[el naruto]

You said it yourself, pre-time skip. Pre-time skip Gaara was much weaker and had much less jutsus. Of course I was commenting on Gaara being stronger than Kisame before Shukaku was taken.. now I have no idea how good Gaara is. Kisame pwned Gai by using water. Now I ask myself, would i rather see water coming at me or sand? what do you think? Gaara can basically change a forest to a desert as we've seen and he can absorb anything into his sand like he did with kimmimaro.

I get where you are coming from, yeah that kinda was a dumb example but ask yourself this, is Gaara Akatsuki Level? COuld he join them. Personally i think not I still stand by Kisame as being stronger, he has a sword that absorbs chakra as well so if he hits gaaras sands its rendered inaffective(Might be pulling this out of my ass because its 1 in the morning).

Edit: And even if Gaara had Shikakus chakra it would not help, Kisame has a insaneeeee chakra reserve making his stamina and ability to fight through a whole fight consitantly very likely.

[Omaki_Roku]

I laugh every time you reply to my post with those lines that date back to the 50s... Hold on, as a matter of fact everything you write sounds like it came from half a century ago. LMAO.. You must be a fan of your grandmom jokes... just a lil advice... they suck so become up to date and try to be more like your pops, Ichee.

-_-

thats funny coming from a guy who uses choice disses such as

"Diedratard"

smh

come on Ichee step your game up.

[XxXItachiXxX]

I get where you are coming from, yeah that kinda was a dumb example but ask yourself this, is Gaara Akatsuki Level? COuld he join them. Personally i think not I still stand by Kisame as being stronger, he has a sword that absorbs chakra as well so if he hits gaaras sands its rendered inaffective(Might be pulling this out of my ass because its 1 in the morning).

Edit: And even if Gaara had Shikakus chakra it would not help, Kisame has a insaneeeee chakra reserve making his stamina and ability to fight through a whole fight consitantly very likely.

Shukaku doesnt just have chakra, Gaara shown control of Shukaku to a certain degree. Also i dont think kisame can charge at Gaara with a sword and not be either sucked into the sand or hit with a sandwave.

[el naruto]

But kisame dosent just use a sword man.... he has water jutsus too, Kisame would get owned by gaara in his own terrotory but buy even a small river kisame would destroy him.

[Ichee]

thats funny coming from a guy who uses choice disses such as

"Diedratard"

smh

come on Ichee step your game up.

lol... this fag wrote "Choice disses", wow you are so gay.
Stay hiding in the closet fag, you're straight act is not working.

[Omaki_Roku]

lol... this fag wrote "Choice disses", wow you are so gay.
Stay hiding in the closet fag, you're straight act is not working.

You got no swag, matter of fact, your whole routine of Chaos forums bad boy is fucking gay, you come on here talking like....

"IM MR ICHEE" YOU ARE ALL NARUTARDS IM BETTER THAN YOU ALL"

yet you got a sig with your so called wins and an anime character customized to be you. Not to mention you get into indepth arguments on why you think this character would beat the other.

smh

Pot Meet Kettle

ya hypocritical pussy.

[Josephus]

Crowd: Omaki_Roku has pissed off Ichee!

Omaki_Roku: Who me?

Crowd: Yes you,

Omaki_Roku: Couldn't be.

Crowd: Then who?

--------------------------------------------------------------
Crowd: Ichee has pissed off Omaki_Roku!

Ichee: Who me?

Crowd: Yes you,

Ichee: Couldn't be.

Crowd: Then who?

This is pretty much what this thread is turning into. This was a pretty good topic and how about we try to keep it good instead of another flamewar.

[el naruto]

Yeah its ichee vs omaki its lame =/

[10sarg]

i thought kisame has the ability to summon water from anywere? i cant remember but when he fought gai and the others i thought they were on some dry hills then kisame summoned crap loads of water and had a fight.

also i think kakashi's jutsu's would only be a delay before kisame took it home.

[Ichee]

You got no swag, matter of fact, your whole routine of Chaos forums bad boy is fucking gay, you come on here talking like....

"IM MR ICHEE" YOU ARE ALL NARUTARDS IM BETTER THAN YOU ALL"

yet you got a sig with your so called wins and an anime character customized to be you. Not to mention you get into indepth arguments on why you think this character would beat the other.

smh

Pot Meet Kettle

ya hypocritical pussy.

lmao.... this is coming from a guy who is trying to be mod on this forum.
Your insults are so old, that when I read them I feel like I met Jesus.

Also... I don't call people narutards, I called your Napolean Dynamite loser ass a Diedratard, cause obviously you are one. Matter fact, you're so much on this character schlong right now, that I won't be surprised if you beat your baloney, everytime you see him.

Thats why your mom fucks you in the ass with a "strap on" for your Daddy's entertainment, hahahaha.

Omaki Roku= Butt Pirate

[Techno Dude]

Just remember before you get mad I'm the flame king...lol

its a forum.................





Itachi an kisame all the way

i don't think the sharingan would work on sasori since hes dead an somehow controls hes retarded puppets

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

itachi ftw

[Omaki_Roku]

lmao.... this is coming from a guy who is trying to be mod on this forum.
Your insults are so old, that when I read them I feel like I met Jesus.

Also... I don't call people narutards, I called your Napolean Dynamite loser ass a Diedratard, cause obviously you are one. Matter fact, you're so much on this character schlong right now, that I won't be surprised if you beat your baloney, everytime you see him.

Thats why your mom fucks you in the ass with a "strap on" for your Daddy's entertainment, hahahaha.

Omaki Roku= Butt Pirate

like i said chump you got no swag, these are the same lame words you used everytime we met in a flame war of words.

Faggot this, homo that.....

your shit is boring. No wonder why dudes is saying our fued is lame, cause when they see us in a match its the same outcome, Me shitting on you repeatedly, and you using the same lame tactics of backpeddling.

Nepopleaon dynamite? thats your best insult? Ive heard better insults coming from your mother disgusted with your father for not being able to please her whore ass.


You can feel free to take another L now Pussy.

I stay winning and you stay mad.

[10sarg]

my god u guys are knob jockeys! stick to topic! take your flame wars to the spam zone.

[Ichee]

like i said chump you got no swag, these are the same lame words you used everytime we met in a flame war of words.

Faggot this, homo that.....

your shit is boring. No wonder why dudes is saying our fued is lame, cause when they see us in a match its the same outcome, Me shitting on you repeatedly, and you using the same lame tactics of backpeddling.

Nepopleaon dynamite? thats your best insult? Ive heard better insults coming from your mother disgusted with your father for not being able to please her whore ass.


You can feel free to take another L now Pussy.

I stay winning and you stay mad.

(YAWN) what was the point of posting if that was the best you could do.

Omaki, to tell you the truth I'm bored with you.. you're no fun, I pawned you but here we go again you're declaring you got in the better jabs but if you read over everything, obviously I knocked you down.

You're not on my level and looking at your progress it looks like your becoming worse. I told you, borrowing jokes and lame lines from your grandmother would put you in the position you're in now. Your old school shit isn't working, so just quit this flame shit because I feel like I'm taking advantage of you.

Me(Ichee) versus you is like GOD(ME) versus a retarded kid(Omaki).

Anyway I'm going for the TKO.

Omaki you're not going to die a virgin but you will die a motherfucker.

If you don't understand that then read my previous post, it's how your pops gets entertained.

Also it's time to add something to my signature, because obviously your on a new level of ownage.

Also 10sarg keep your mouth close before I make you report me to a mod, you cockknocker.

[jounin101]

"knob jockey"..."cockknocker"..."ya hypocritical pussy"
are yall caucasian toddlers, cause this sounds like those kids from The Legend of Ricky Bobby. whats next, we're gonna pray to baby jesus?(movie joke, for those who didnt see it)
either yall come harder or cut the bullshit, cause i've felt hotter flames from a BIC lighter.

sasori and diedara would pwn anyone in the narutoverse TOGETHER! puppets, poisons, explosion clay, hell, sasori IS a puppet. i would post proof, but i believe everything has been said already.

[Omaki_Roku]

Its okay Omaki, I will write super paragraphs of nonsense to you, because clearly my feelings are very very hurt.

Im sorry and want to be your friend which is why I put your name in a special place in my sig much like I put you in a special place in my Heart


http://a193.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/27/l_32fd2f3197ba2160abc2b28bed8fa308.jpg

[Ichee]

"knob jockey"..."cockknocker"..."ya hypocritical pussy"
are yall caucasian toddlers, cause this sounds like those kids from The Legend of Ricky Bobby. whats next, we're gonna pray to baby jesus?(movie joke, for those who didnt see it)
either yall come harder or cut the bullshit, cause i've felt hotter flames from a BIC lighter.

sasori and diedara would pwn anyone in the narutoverse TOGETHER! puppets, poisons, explosion clay, hell, sasori IS a puppet. i would post proof, but i believe everything has been said already.

lmao... cockknocker is hilarious.

Anyway jounin, just shut the fuck up... If you take that advice you will go far.

If you want to see an example of someone who didn't, just look at how pitiful Omaki is now....lol

changing around people post is a fraud move.

[Omaki_Roku]

quit lying Ichee

thats how you really feel faggot

Now look at you crying
BOO HOO
"THAT WAS A FRUAD MOVE"

like there are rules to Flaming.

Lol
what a lil bitch

[animeking]

Omaki & ichee shut the f*** up! Seriously,what the hell is the matter with you both? If you both want to fight than do so in PM. You two are annoying as hell.

[Ichee]

lol... Omaki is just lame now, anyway I found someone I want to bag on.

Animeking, I'm annoying?
lmao... this guy says I'm annoying... Omaki is yes, because he can't keep my balls out his mouth but me.

Animeking you're a pussy you complained about me, the fairy Omaki, and the butt plug Techno dude... in the past few minutes.

"Guys isn't Ichee, Omaki, and techno dude annoying"

Go get laid you virgin.

My list continues...

[Itachi_the_Feared_One]

Well, its quite early to speculate about Sasuke's power and a possible win situation if he were to face Itachi again, last chapter left us a big clue, Itachi made an ass out of one of the legendary sanin, that put him right on the same level as Jiraya, but then If Itachi is that powerful, which begs the question how would you rank the Aka leader??

back to Sasuke, what drove Sasuke to go beserk and beat Oro, Simply to measure his Power, since he found out that Itachi had an encouter with oro and defeated him.

now what is left to sasuke is to prepare an assult on Akatsuki organisation and accomplish his revenge plan

[el naruto]

Well, its quite early to speculate about Sasuke's power and a possible win situation if he were to face Itachi again, last chapter left us a big clue, Itachi made an ass out of one of the legendary sanin, that put him right on the same level as Jiraya, but then If Itachi is that powerful, which begs the question how would you rank the Aka leader??

back to Sasuke, what drove Sasuke to go beserk and beat Oro, Simply to measure his Power, since he found out that Itachi had an encouter with oro and defeated him.

now what is left to sasuke is to prepare an assult on Akatsuki organisation and accomplish his revenge plan

sasuke fought oro in a WEAKENED STATE he was probably at 5% strength or 10%, and yeah itachi had balls to face oro 1v1 both full strength proving sasuke is a big ass wuss. Sasuke attack akatsuki? Um itachi would just kick his ass again and tell him he was weak still.

[Omaki_Roku]

lol... Omaki is just lame now, anyway I found someone I want to bag on.

Animeking, I'm annoying?
lmao... this guy says I'm annoying... Omaki is yes,
Animeking you're a pussy you complained about me, the fairy Omaki, and the butt plug Techno dude... in the past few minutes.

"Guys isn't Ichee, Omaki, and techno dude annoying"

Go get laid you virgin.

My list continues...


You would need the jaws of life to pry your hands off my Nut sac

you are so bipolar its ridiculous

make up your mind faggot either your going to talk about me or your not.



If you clearly won like you say you did then roll with it faggot.

but you didnt win so you stay Defending yourself and losing.

but thats how shitted on pussies react, cant take a loss so you gotta rant on and get pissed off. Me on the other hand I stay laughing at you.


"BOO HOOO
HE CANT CHANGE MY POSTS THATS NOT FAIR"---- Ichee the flame queen

lol



I dont really want to get into a in dephth arguments anymore on this site im over it, so simple explanation is enough for me.

I dont care too much, but obviously you do so go ahead and post a 3 page biblical statement on why you think itachi or the others may win.

and in the end ill say

Grenades and explosives > Ichees Bible




the one post that made ichee shit his pants in anger

hahhahahhahahhahhaahahhaha

[oipotty]

not to break a moment, lets get back on the topic

[y.o.]

I say sasori and diedra.... there the two best that I seen so far!

[10sarg]

thing is we've never seen a full on kisame/itachi fight there either cut short or its not them at full power. i want to see them worknig as a team at the fullest power.

[Seta Soujirou]

the tag team of hidan and kakuzu will pretty good if you're unable to separate them.

[10sarg]

dunno in that situation hidan is the weakest by far. plus kakuzu always said he killed all his last partners so that means hidan wasn't even first choice akatsuki.

[y.o.]

Like I said previously.... hidan wasnt weak..... hes probly one of the strongest one on one fighters in the series, only a couple of people I can think of who could actually have beaten him..... garra being one of them!!

And just for the record, I serously thing that shika could beat anyone if he has time to plan and knows there jutsu!!

[Ichee]

You would need the jaws of life to pry your hands off my Nut sac

you are so bipolar its ridiculous

make up your mind faggot either your going to talk about me or your not.



If you clearly won like you say you did then roll with it faggot.

but you didnt win so you stay Defending yourself and losing.

but thats how shitted on pussies react, cant take a loss so you gotta rant on and get pissed off. Me on the other hand I stay laughing at you.


"BOO HOOO
HE CANT CHANGE MY POSTS THATS NOT FAIR"---- Ichee the flame queen

lol



the one post that made ichee shit his pants in anger

hahhahahhahahhahhaahahhaha

LMAO.. This dumbass is still on my previous post... I didn't even know you still was giving me weak sparks in this thread.
I didn't say you couldn't change my post... I was just pointing out the fact how bad you are at comebacks.
Now it's time for you to get roasted.

Look Omaki you're horrible, you follow me whenever I go clinging on my balls just so you can be seen. It's obvious, you and techno dude are both leeches trying to feed off my flame battles to popularize yourselves, which is a fucking geek move. Look I flame for shits and giggles, nothing more and nothing less, but it's obvious the forums became different once I showed up.... More flame battles is the main thing going on right now. Just look all over these forums.
Anyway, invent some new jokes and try and come back at me because obviously your not even on my level. The only way you can take me on is when you become a mod lackey dicksucker and tell him to edit my post because it hurt your feelings.

[Collateral]

Look I flame for shits and giggles, nothing more and nothing less, but it's obvious the forums became different once I showed up.... More flame battles is the main thing going on right now.

and it looks like you are really proud of that. thats really lame.. no its not really lame it more poor for you




Anyway, invent some new jokes and try and come back at me because obviously your not even on my level. The only way you can take me on is when you become a mod lackey dicksucker and tell him to edit my post because it hurt your feelings.


obviously we all have to train a lot to come to your level. I would guess the best training for us would be to drink alot alcohol and eat every pill we find and if we try hard enough we are able to bring our IQs low enough to reach your level

[Ichee]

And the saga continues.....

All you have to do to be on my level collateral is this..... take your head out of your ass.

[Omaki_Roku]

shit anybody can be ichee
all you have to do is repeat the following lame phrases over and over

buttfuck
faggot
homo
Im the flame king
cockknocker
etc

add those to a big ol snoreagraph of hurt feelings and you can be just like ichee.


Ichee stays speaking my name when im not around yet he says im on his rasin sac.

dude is fucking bipolar and was dropped on his head as a baby.

stay mad ichee

You lost

hahhhahhahhahhahhaha

imma start calling you Omaki's Toilete from now on for all the times ive consistantly shit on you.

[Ichee]

Saying the same shit over and over.....
The only reason your name is spoken out my mouth is because everytime I look down, your swinging on my nuts...
and how the hell are you going to shit on me when your beneath me, basically you're my testicle holder..... Nothing can break your grip not even Thor's hammer.

I swear everywhere I go, you're right there.. Omaki = Testicle clinging e-stalker

[Aizen-diacho]

LMAO!! ya dudes is stupid i think i'll join this thread to watch the falme abttle keep it going.

on topic:umm Oro and Sasuke make a kick ass team two monsters.Oro is a formidable opponent able to regrow limbs and knows tons of jutsus and forbidden jutsus.Sasuke is almost as skilled as Itachi is with the Sharingan imo he still doesn't have M.S and thats his weakness up agasin't itachi.Also Sasuke new lighting nature mnipulation he's invented some strong thecnique's and have learned many from Oro.

but i'm at odds if Itachi and Kisame could beat them.Itachi up agasin't either Oro or Sasuke the victory is his.Kisame imo i don't think he would be able to beat Oro.I think Oro would outsmart Kisame and then overpower him with jutsus i do see Kisame putting up a fight.and Kisame up agasin't Sasuke i find hard to call because i think i would be bias about the decision.as i Stated before Sasuke has grown alot imo he's close to Tsunade's lv may even be on par with her.but i do think Kisame would win due to experience more chakra,strenght and huge overpowering jutsus

[Omaki_Roku]

I stay Saying the same shit over and over.....



word flame queen keep speaking that real talk

[Uchiha_Blaze]

ok.. Itachi couldnt beat Deidara nor Sasori..wel Deidara maybe but.. he wouldnt get eye contact with him. Deidara would fly around and bomb Itachi like he was a B-52 and well Sasori has no brain so its impossible for genjutsu to work on him :x.

[Aizen-diacho]

ok.. Itachi couldnt beat Deidara nor Sasori..wel Deidara maybe but.. he wouldnt get eye contact with him. Deidara would fly around and bomb Itachi like he was a B-52 and well Sasori has no brain so its impossible for genjutsu to work on him :x.

Deidara is finished agasin't itachi.Deidara isn't gonna start the battle off on his bird itachi is faster,stronger,knows more jutsus,smarter,and just overall down right better.If Deidara lives long enough to get up in the air itachi is basicly the master of the sharingan he knows tons of jutsus and he already has katon jutsus.not to mention itachi doesn't need eye contact to put you in a genjutsus not to mention no genjutsus user those all they have to do is perform the jutsus and then your in the genjutsus.

[y.o.]

I personnally think that diedra would beat sasori, he knows how good he is and hes a good at stategy, so I would thank that he can stay out of range of itachis jutsu while setting his own traps!!

I agree that sasori probley cant get caught in a genjutsu either but he can get burned by amerutsu!

Which I think he wont be able to hit diedra with!!

[Master_of_puppets]

Puppets rule. I vote sasori and co

[Uchiha_Blaze]

Sasori vs Itachi

Sasori and Itachi are in a cave, Sasori starts to play with hiruko Itachi evades destroys his puppet. Sasori pulls out the 3rd goes like that world order thing or what ever its called the mill spikes, Itachi evades (somehow) fires a meatball then Sasori deflects that spicy meatball with his flames. Sasori uses 100 puppet technique Itachi starts armaretsu on Sasori, then he sees that that was not Sasori...BAM he gets his heart pierced by a poisoned katana. The End. Anyway everyone would have trouble fighting that 100 puppet jutsu.

[LethalBanee]

Deidara and Sasori..

MMM

[Gabe Rod]

itachi and kisame.
MMMMMMMMMMMMM

[mandelak]

itachi kisame, would beat both. sasuke and oro wouldnt even think about taking them on first of all and sasori and deidara, deidara already knows about itachi and i think kisame would be bad for deidara. and sasori would be caught in gen b4 he even knew he was in gen.

itachi would have them all in gen b4 they even knew it kisame will be back up just in case they or someone gets out of it. i wonder if itachi can use MS on 4 ppl at the same time

[DonEmu]

Well if you look at the aspect of which team may have the best teamwork then probably Itachi and Kisame may be able to take them on together as a unit, if you think of the team with the most pure destructive force then its going to be Sasori and Deidara.

So depending on the terrain its between these two. I think a small closed environment suits Itachi and Kisame. They can easily cause the damage they need in the enclosed area. But if its a wide battle arena Deidara and Sasori would take it... due to their battle style and ability to take on numbers.

Personally i think Itachi = Sasori = Kisame > Deidara
So i go with Itachi and Kisame...

Orochimaru and Sasuke i dont think so...

[mandelak]

yeah oro and sasuke wouldnt make it.

but with that even if they are in a big area thats good for kisame also. he can flood the place with water, and the reason sasori was walking most times was coz he was to heavy for deidara's bird. anyways if they did fight in a wide area kisame could flood the place. itachi and kisame could still win it but it will be a hard fight. but i think itachi would do well. also sasori and his hundred of puppets that would be a good fight to see.

[XxXItachiXxX]

Deidara and Sasori because their styles have chemistry and they can dominate air and land whereas Kisame and Itachi's styles do not blend together very well.

[Uchiha_Blaze]

itachi kisame, would beat both. sasuke and oro wouldnt even think about taking them on first of all and sasori and deidara, deidara already knows about itachi and i think kisame would be bad for deidara. and sasori would be caught in gen b4 he even knew he was in gen.

itachi would have them all in gen b4 they even knew it kisame will be back up just in case they or someone gets out of it. i wonder if itachi can use MS on 4 ppl at the same time

Sasori cannot be caught in genjutsu. Genjutsu is chackra disturbing your chackra flow effecting the brain. Sasori = no brain . Hes just a puppet with a human body part to keep him alive and to give him chackra, either way 100 puppet technique = dead end of Itachi, he won't be able to singlehandletly defeat a army of 100 quality (jounin level) human puppets. Although Kisame would prob fight through all those puppets. So yeah Itachi + Kisame are a very good teamup. Sasori is a beast 1v1 because its not 1v1 its 1v100.

[mandelak]

why do ppl think itachi is only good at gen when he was clearly fast as against kakashi. i think his tai is just as good as his genjutsu. i really want to see him fight a battle with someone so we can know exactly how strong he is. i still blame it on sasuke if he didnt stop jiraya from fighting itachi that time we would've known

plus kisame could take on sasori and itachi on deidara. and their jutsu and skills do complement each other

[aldaron]

Well, considering it's hard to genjutsu a puppet, the Itachi advantage on Sasori would be next to none. If Sasori could capture Itachi and Kisame, which is what puppeteers specialize in, then Deidara could just C4 and then good day Kisame and Itachi lol.

Sasori, sadly, was an emotional bitch. Absolute God in terms of combat abilities, but a little emo cock sucker. He could easily have been one of the epic battles of Naruto, but instead he ended a long fight with Chiyo and Sakura by allowing himself to die, due to "emotional personal reasons."

What a nitwit.



EDIT: Seems like the Sasori + Deidara pairing was fitting...Sasori was emo and emotional issues, and Deidara was so insecure he *evidently* committed a self-destruction just to defeat the Sharingan...So sad...

[Ichee']

Well, considering it's hard to genjutsu a puppet, the Itachi advantage on Sasori would be next to none. If Sasori could capture Itachi and Kisame, which is what puppeteers specialize in, then Deidara could just C4 and then good day Kisame and Itachi lol.

Sasori, sadly, was an emotional bitch. Absolute God in terms of combat abilities, but a little emo cock sucker. He could easily have been one of the epic battles of Naruto, but instead he ended a long fight with Chiyo and Sakura by allowing himself to die, due to "emotional personal reasons."

What a nitwit.



EDIT: Seems like the Sasori + Deidara pairing was fitting...Sasori was emo and emotional issues, and Deidara was so insecure he *evidently* committed a self-destruction just to defeat the Sharingan...So sad...

Actually Itachi could get Sasori into a genjustu, where did him not having a brain limits him from being put into an illusion?? As it's explained in the manga by Jiraiya and Chiyo the person doing the genjutsu is causing it by the persons chakra flow. Now as you know Sasori does have chakra and he is concious two of the main elements that is needed for a genjutsu to work.

[yupster]

but he has no senses to be tricked? or he shouldnt with no body anyway

[uchihacheron]

well we see that deidara cant beat itachi, but i think that sasori kisame goes into sasoris favor but kisame can definitly beat deidara just because of the imense power he has, so the real question is could itachi beat sasori and it looks like it would be a close fight between them, the sharingan takes off the unpredictability of the puppets, also idk how the genjutsu would effect sasori so i think that itachi would be forced to use some serious techniques we havent seen from him but i dont see him losing that fight, plus he can see the chakra strings so no real suprises from sasori

[yupster]

that and i think people are forgetting that the puppets can be destroyed
one nice ninjutsu could probably take out a large chunk of them because theyre all concentrated in one general area
but you also have to consider that sasori never used that last summoning scroll (though i could be wrong that was a while ago)
kisame vs deidra is another story deidra could probably win that just because kisame probably couldnt get close

[DonEmu]

but he has no senses to be tricked? or he shouldnt with no body anyway

So you are saying that sasori is blind, deaf and unable to feel taste, touch and smell?

[sage213]

So you are saying that sasori is blind, deaf and unable to feel taste, touch and smell?

well he is deff able to see, and hear i dont know about the rest though... touch would mean he feels pain, and as he said i think he feels no pain maybe this was meant as emotional... and for itachi's genjutsu dont u have to look at him? i think sasori would be the best opponent for itachi if he only has sight and hearing

[devilrymage]

Of course Itachi and Kisame. Itachi is likely to be the strongest member in Akatsuki, considering that Sasuke is probably around Deidara's standards and he is still so far away from killing Itachi.

[yupster]

So you are saying that sasori is blind, deaf and unable to feel taste, touch and smell?

no what im saying is theres no way he should be able to and even if he can its through a mechanical process so there should be no flow of chakra involved and genjutsu wouldnt be able to change the flow of something thats not there
(im not saying genjutsu wouldnt work on him just logicaly it shouldnt (but then logicaly there should have been no possible way for sasori to move that chunk of himself into the puppet)

[y.o.]

well we see that deidara cant beat itachi, but i think that sasori kisame goes into sasoris favor but kisame can definitly beat deidara just because of the imense power he has, so the real question is could itachi beat sasori and it looks like it would be a close fight between them, the sharingan takes off the unpredictability of the puppets, also idk how the genjutsu would effect sasori so i think that itachi would be forced to use some serious techniques we havent seen from him but i dont see him losing that fight, plus he can see the chakra strings so no real suprises from sasori


He would have to find a way to get close enough to hit him, actually diedra would be kisames natural enemy as tayuya put it, cause kisame is a close range fighter and would be using up alot of energy just trying ot keep up w/ diedra!!

And not to mention the obvious kisame is a close range brawler, and diedra is a long range tactical fighter!!

In my eyes diedra owns this match up!! And I dont feel like explaining it, but sasori could beat itachi!!

[uchihacheron]

He would have to find a way to get close enough to hit him, actually diedra would be kisames natural enemy as tayuya put it, cause kisame is a close range fighter and would be using up alot of energy just trying ot keep up w/ diedra!!

And not to mention the obvious kisame is a close range brawler, and diedra is a long range tactical fighter!!

In my eyes diedra owns this match up!! And I dont feel like explaining it, but sasori could beat itachi!!

first im going to explain why deidara cant beat kisame.....kisame has imensely powerful jutsus like we saw during the second gai fight. he can change the whole landscape of the battle, he may be a close range fighter but alot of his techniques have long range capabilities and his ability to control water helps him cover any distance that deidara wants to spread becaus he can make giant waves that he rides on. also c2 is not effective becuse there is no where to place land mines with the water kisame will create. also c4 is ineffective because im sure at the sight of the giant deidara that kisame will retreat to the water and with itachi there it would be easy to avoid it. and when it comes to stamina and who will last longer kisame will take deidara to his limits easily. and it dont think deidara could run long enough for kisame ot run out of chakra.


now to itachi vs sasori, i dont belive that sasori is immune to genjutsu and if he isnt the fight is over very quickly unless deidara can notice it. however if he is invulnerable to it it doesnt matter, itachi can see the chakra strings and his shairngan will help him react to the movements of the puppets. also i think youre forgettin about a litlle technique called amatersu. amaterasu would destroy any and every puppet sasori could summon, the flames are as hot as the sun and burn for seven days. and besides that all of itachis fire jutsus would do damage because wood isnt very flame reardent.

[yupster]

yep
not so sure about deidra losing to kisame but theres no way in hell itachi would lose to sasori
sasori is way over rated in a one on one fight even sakura was able to predict what he was going to do next
granted she couldnt do shit about it but itachi wouldnt be plagued with that problem obviously