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vegita625
05-19-2004, 03:13 PM
I'm curious... when the Third did the seal and sealed Orochimaru's arms (as well as First and Second with the shadow clones), the seal appeared on Third. When the Fourth performed the seal on kyuubi, the seal appeared on Naruto. Is Naruto a reincarnation of Fourth or something? Or did the Fourth somehow transfer the seal to him? I'm wondering if the secret behind this mystery is what leads to Orochimaru possibly getting his arms back, you can't unseal something when the vessel of the seal is dead, it just doesn't make sense, so if Oro. is ever getting back his arms, could this be a possible way?

Lukasz
05-19-2004, 03:39 PM
I think naruto is Fourth part. he created him to keep kyuubi sealed. After sealing kyuubi in himself he moved seal to naruto. Death of the person who has seal would free Ninetails in my opinion.

nawar
05-19-2004, 03:40 PM
i simply think that the fourth used his soul as a price and naruto as a vessel since the kyuby must have beeeen way more powerfull than him self

timeformydeath
05-19-2004, 07:08 PM
Im pretty sure that it is neither of these, but it is actually the seal of the death god as seen when the 3rd fought Orochimaru. The 4th probably jumped on the demon foxes back or something and used the forbidden jutsu to summon death and transfer the foxes spirit to a small baby called Naruto. I mean just compare the seal on baby Naruto's stomach to the one on the 3rd its just the same. Look for pictures all around it is the seal of the Death God!!! Not the 4th's seal. I think your right about this, but as you see Orochimaru tried to summon all three Hokages including the fourth so it possible for him to get back his arms souls if someone summoned it back into him, but since he is the only one who knows it he has to find someone else to fix his arm either with another person's soul combined into him. When reading the manga, I guess he believes someone can heal his arms with super healing-medical skills. It is possible for Orochimaru to get his arms back since he could summon the 4th away from the Death God.

The Naruto cannot be a reincarnation of because of at least some reason such as 1. Orochimaru attempted to summon the 4th when he summoned the other Hokages 2. Death was carrying the soul of the 4th and unless you cant see the color blue you can tell that is the real 4th by his spikey hair 3. Although Naruto is often known as the inheritor of the 4ths will, it his will not his soul!!! The 3rd should be able to tell if Naruto is the 4th, but Naruto looks more like a grandson or something likewise

NarutoNineTails
05-21-2004, 05:05 PM
Im pretty sure that it is neither of these, but it is actually the seal of the death god as seen when the 3rd fought Orochimaru. The 4th probably jumped on the demon foxes back or something and used the forbidden jutsu to summon death and transfer the foxes spirit to a small baby called Naruto. I mean just compare the seal on baby Naruto's stomach to the one on the 3rd its just the same. Look for pictures all around it is the seal of the Death God!!! Not the 4th's seal. I think your right about this, but as you see Orochimaru tried to summon all three Hokages including the fourth so it possible for him to get back his arms souls if someone summoned it back into him, but since he is the only one who knows it he has to find someone else to fix his arm either with another person's soul combined into him. When reading the manga, I guess he believes someone can heal his arms with super healing-medical skills. It is possible for Orochimaru to get his arms back since he could summon the 4th away from the Death God.

The Naruto cannot be a reincarnation of because of at least some reason such as 1. Orochimaru attempted to summon the 4th when he summoned the other Hokages 2. Death was carrying the soul of the 4th and unless you cant see the color blue you can tell that is the real 4th by his spikey hair 3. Although Naruto is often known as the inheritor of the 4ths will, it his will not his soul!!! The 3rd should be able to tell if Naruto is the 4th, but Naruto looks more like a grandson or something likewise

Whoa...I had to stop reading this in the middle so I can avoid what seems like a spoiler to me. If it is give us some warnings at least man!

Calculust
05-21-2004, 07:32 PM
Maybe Naruto is the 4th's son? They do look alike and Naruto is reffered to as his legacy a couple times. Anyway, I think he just sucked out Kyuubi's soul and sealed it inside of Naruto instead of himself.

I have Question. Why didn't the 4th just let the death god take Kyuubi's soul as well as his own? The 3rd said that the user and the usee's souls and both eaten by the death god and then locked in combat forever.

Lukasz
05-21-2004, 07:55 PM
Because Kyuubi soul is a demon soul so it couldnt be eaten by God. Kyuubi cannot be killed that's why fourth had to seal kyuubi in some other conteinor. During the battle third was creating Naruto. when everything was done fourht appeared he used jutus and sealed Kyuubi in himslef. but before dying he gave seal to Naruto. It is my theory but in first episode ninjas are saying: "why the fourth didnt come yet??" or something similar.

HunterDylan
07-17-2004, 03:56 PM
I Think when the 4th did the seal technique he tried to do a sexy no jutsu so maybe the death god would make a mistake but the 4th turned into Naruto and stayed that way and he got his head banged and he can't remeber, thats why some people in the episode say: It was 20 years ago when the seal was made.

Thepimplishone
07-17-2004, 03:58 PM
i really think and hope its part of the story and it will be revealed in the future

ZrAeNiAn
07-17-2004, 04:00 PM
well i think the 4th transferred it to Naruto, and the 3th didnt do that on purpose so there is no way to brake the seal, ill explain

When you saw that naruto wanted to borrow the kyubi's power for the first time you saw the paper seal inside naruto with behind the fence the kyubi. if naruto will tear the seal apart the kyubi will be released.

And since the 3th is dead now there is no way the seal can be undone

-Zr-

Thepimplishone
07-17-2004, 04:09 PM
well...if the seal breaks and kyubi comes out...then tsunade woudl most likely seal it again sacrificying her own life and creating irony while she's at it

HunterDylan
07-17-2004, 04:36 PM
but she cant summon the death god and the third was the last who knew the trick so nobody can summon the death god ( not even tsunade )

«Äñßû»
07-17-2004, 05:11 PM
hmmm. maybe the fourth actually asked the death god thing to seal kyuubi inside naruto, but to still use the 4th's life for the jutsu.

ZrAeNiAn
07-17-2004, 05:16 PM
but she cant summon the death god and the third was the last who knew the trick so nobody can summon the death god ( not even tsunade )

Jiraiya can form the seal ;), he explained the seal when he was teaching naruto to walk on the water. So i figure he can perform the seal to.

-Zr-

HunterDylan
07-17-2004, 06:05 PM
No, Orochimaru Sealed the Seal, and Jiraiya anti-sealed orochimaru's seal so everyting went back to normal