Sasori versus Kisame a.k.a The Fish

[Ichee]

Yea.... Well.

I wanted to see something like this for a while but it was always these gay ass Itachi versus(insert here) threads.

Anyway Ak47 the (insert whatever comes to mind about him in here) :lol: told me I should do it so I took his advice and did it....


Anyway I don't care what you reply but in every post at least keep to the topic...

Also if you vote, do not be a noob and leave without explaining why you vote and so on...


Anyway my first thread... -_-

Also I voted Kisame, I explain later on....

[kjrav]

I vote for Kisame just because he has Gills.

[AK47]

yes those are good rules, good job ichee
anyways this vs thread is kinda interesting
we've seen almost sasori's full potential and i acknowledge he is strong and he's killed a lot of people strong ones too like kazekage. Facing sakura and chiyo to him seemed simple and easy (and should've been too) and losing to them is kind of a disgrace to all the strong bad guys out there
kisame has killed a lot of people and fought a lot of strong people and survived (some of it was thnx to itachi) but kisame seems strong too and we haven't seen his full potential yet
but i'm gonna have to go with kisame cuz in the gai fight his skills were amazing and he was against three and gai had to use one of his ultimate attacks

[kjrav]

That and it was only 30% of his true power.

[Pryce]

i have to go with Sasori on this one because of the diffrent fighting styles and sasori's puppet jutsus and the only reson why he died was because he let himself lose

[KageNaruto]

since he can flood all the puppets and block them with sharks ill go with kisame

[gerbster11]

i voted kisame cuz he can create all that water and i dont think the puppets could float.

[imported_Greenlitflag]

i voted kisame cuz he can create all that water and i dont think the puppets could float.

Wood floats.

[gerbster11]

i voted kisame cuz he can create all that water and i dont think the puppets could float.

Wood floats.

agreed, but if they are hollow inside and get submerged, then they would sink, or be difficult to move.

[imported_Greenlitflag]

i voted kisame cuz he can create all that water and i dont think the puppets could float.

Wood floats.

agreed, but if they are hollow inside and get submerged, then they would sink, or be difficult to move.

lol, well their being controlled by chakra strings (which as far as I'm concerned aren't effected by water) meaning they move no differently underwater (sasori himself wouldn't be effected... made of wood... no lungs)

[AK47]

lol yea he has no lungs
kisame would just have to destroy the whole thing and if it comes back together just bash it with the sword again and again and again

[imported_Greenlitflag]

lol yea he has no lungs
kisame would just have to destroy the whole thing and if it comes back together just bash it with the sword again and again and again

lol, I'd be like Tom & Jerry or something.

[gerbster11]

I think it would still take more effort for puppets to move through a water attack. even chakra strings use stamina, and when there is more resistance( water ) then you use more chakra. and plus his sword can probably absorb all of the chakra strings anyway, so sasori would not be able to even control any puppets except his own body.

[AK47]

that's a good point but sasori also had three scrolls and we only know one of them which was pretty strong
each scroll could have different purpose for differnt opponents

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Yeah, i do agree with kisame too, he is more fitted to fight sasori than itachi was and his attacks would definitely have a big impact on all those puppets.

[gerbster11]

I dont remember that, but still sasori could not control any puppets with chakra strings, cuz of kisame's sword would just absorb all chakra.

[imported_Greenlitflag]

I think it would still take more effort for puppets to move through a water attack. even chakra strings use stamina, and when there is more resistance( water ) then you use more chakra. and plus his sword can probably absorb all of the chakra strings anyway, so sasori would not be able to even control any puppets except his own body.

I don't think water would phase the master of puppets, but that's debatable. This whole fight is kinda hard to decide. I guess were going on the assumption they are near water (giving kisame a huge advantage.) But I dunno... If kisame couldn't see asuma's chakra blade comin' then I think he'd have a hard time keeping up with 100 puppets/Iron sand (note: I'm joking about the asuma comment...)

[gerbster11]

Well, kisame can create water anywhere, like when he was fighting gai and his crew, and if his sword can suck chakra like how he did to naruto, then sasori would be seriously limited and at a serious disadvantage. I guess my point of view is that kisame's sword would eat the chakra even before sasori could move his puppets to attack.

[AK47]

yea but sasori is a long distance fighter also and kisame's absorbing chakra thing is close distance unless he knows a jutsu that can make his sword suck chakra from long distancees which unlikely
kisame is most likely to win but not with the sword but probably some ninjutsus he hasn't revealed yet

[y.o.]

That and it was only 30% of his true power.

No it wasnt, this is a very common misconception, it took 30% of his chakra to do the jutsu, he wasnt fightin at 30% of his true power, think about it this way Naruto fightin Garra

and he did TKB he created a large amount of chakra to do the jutsu, were as most just use a small amount, same goes for this jutsu!

Its just more chakra to do the jutsu than normal!

[KageNaruto]

kisame also says the stremgth and jutsu they can use are limited based on the 30% chakra given to them, its not just their chakra thats reduced but strength too.


but just think if neji was so surprised about kisame at 30% chakra, hes a monster with more than 3 times that amount

[imported_Greenlitflag]

kisame also says the stremgth and jutsu they can use are limited based on the 30% chakra given to them, its not just their chakra thats reduced but strength too.


but just think if neji was so surprised about kisame at 30% chakra, hes a monster with more than 3 times that amount

In theory, yes. But it's really up to kishimoto to actually show kisame 70% stronger when he actually fights. I hope kisame is actually strong, but it wouldn't be the first time someones power was misrepresented in a show/manga.

[KageNaruto]

true true...

p.s. you think the five shark feeding frenzy is a sort of unique jutsu or an actual summoning or what?

also most likely he has a 10shark feeding frenzy since he used 5 fingers to summon the 5 sharks

[imported_Greenlitflag]

true true...

p.s. you think the five shark feeding frenzy is a sort of unique jutsu or an actual summoning or what?

also mos tlikely he has a 10hark feeding frenzy since he used 5 fingers to summon the 5 sharks

I think it might just be a regular jutsu like the water dragon one (which I think is kinda weird... I mean, chakra forming a dragon made of water? lol I dunno)

[RandomGuy]

i voted kisame cuz he can create all that water and i dont think the puppets could float.

Wood floats.

agreed, but if they are hollow inside and get submerged, then they would sink, or be difficult to move.
Lol, the fact that they are wood, and if they are hollow inside would definitely make them float. More air as opposed to solid wood would make it much lighter than water.

[KageNaruto]

...if their hollow water will get inside them, they will be heaveier and sink....

-_-

[Ichee]

Well as I posted when I started this thread, I believe Kisame will win...

The reason is clear because he's at an advantage...

His sword as was mention sucks up chakra but I don't think that will be all it takes to beat Sasori...

He can contoll over a thousand puppets and can switch bodies with any of his puppets and also regenarate his limbs as long as his core is not damaged..

Sasori is powerful with abilty of controlling over a thousand puppets and killing the sand sandaime Kazekage to take over his unique abilty is he not to be taken like a bitch...

Now Kisame... Only Three words describe him... Strong as Shit :twisted:

Kisame is a close range fighter, with monstrous strength.
He weilds an oversized blade called Samehada, from his village(Village of the Hidden Mist) he was known as the Mysterious Person of the Hidden Mist.
Also he was affliated with the seven Swordsmen of the Hidden Mist, whos members were powerful ninja that weilded big unique swords. He also were in a job of assasinating a feudal lord abd sabotage, Also he is wanted by numerous countries. This shows his popularity and how big he is known but I fear that his power is bigger than that. Asuma a konoha jounin had trouble with keeping up with him while Kisame was barely trying even though he got a scratch on his face. Kisame fighting at 30% of his full potential with Gai, Lee, Tenten, and Neji was a handful and Neji stated that his chakra was as big as Narutos when Naruto used Kyubbified chakra.

Kisame likes to fight and seems to want to have any kind of fight even if it will cost him his life. Hes probably dumb but his physical stature takes up for his brains. Sasori seems to smarter in a sense but to me doesn't really have much might to beat Kisame.

Come on Kisame is a beast while Sasori isn't :( .

Sasori will be a good fight for Kisame but all Kisame has to do is use his ater attacks to wash away any poison that Sasori loaded with his puppets.
Then he can take his sword and bash the shuit out of him with and it.

Simple(Im too tired right now to really explain)

-_-

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

That whole argument was pretty good, and i mostly agree, sasori isn't the match for kisame and his type of fighting put him at a disadvantage vs kisame. But, lol, you didn't have to tell us their accomplishement tough, lol, we all knew their story dude.

[Ichee]

I was trying to give out things that will strengthen my arguement.

-_-

[CRtwenty]

Kisame Vs. Sasori?

Hrm... Kisame's sword eats up chakra... I can't imagine that chakra puppet threads would last very long against him. Which means Sasori would have to do most of his fighting in either his Hiroku armor, or piloting his Sasori puppet. I don't see the Sandaime Kazekage or his other puppets helping out that much.

As we saw, Hiroku was taken out with one blow from Sakura. Kisame is at least as strong as Sakura, so I don't see the armor lasting very long against Samehada's strikes. Sasori, due to its speed might fare better, and with its poison it is basically a matter of who can hit who first. Kisame with a powerful blow? Or Sasori with a poisoned blade?

Kisame is almost exclusively a close range fighter, so I'd imagine his Taijutsu is better then Sasori's... I see Kisame winning this.

They're both really cool characters though.

[Ichee]

I see it's tied....

-_-

[KageNaruto]

Kisame Vs. Sasori?

Hrm... Kisame's sword eats up chakra... I can't imagine that chakra puppet threads would last very long against him. Which means Sasori would have to do most of his fighting in either his Hiroku armor, or piloting his Sasori puppet. I don't see the Sandaime Kazekage or his other puppets helping out that much.

As we saw, Hiroku was taken out with one blow from Sakura. Kisame is at least as strong as Sakura, so I don't see the armor lasting very long against Samehada's strikes. Sasori, due to its speed might fare better, and with its poison it is basically a matter of who can hit who first. Kisame with a powerful blow? Or Sasori with a poisoned blade?

Kisame is almost exclusively a close range fighter, so I'd imagine his Taijutsu is better then Sasori's... I see Kisame winning this.

They're both really cool characters though.

cant the water just wash away the poison?

[RandomGuy]

...if their hollow water will get inside them, they will be heaveier and sink....

-_-
...I dont remember anyone saying theyd have openings to their hollow insides...and even so, unless some genius made only 1 hole to the center, water can just as easily flow out of the puppet as into it.

Aaanyway, I think in a closed in area or an open arena Sasori has the advantage since it would be harder to run from the attacks. Well I bet Kisame has some shield jutsus like Suiton Suijin heki or something so it might be better than I think.

[KageNaruto]

hello dude, puppets have tons of traps and contraptions on them, thats what makes em deadly, ofcourse water can get in

[CRtwenty]

cant the water just wash away the poison?

Yes, but not very easily. Take a knife and dip it in like Vaseline or some other kind of sticky substance, then put it in water. You'll notice it tends to stick to the blade.

Also, a lot of the poison is probably in hollow tubes in the blades. So water wouldn't effect it.

[AK47]

sasori would probably have an attack were he can spread the poison in the water and then kisame would be affected

[KageNaruto]

yup thats true but if kisame makes a tidal wave he can just wash it all backward and away

[AK47]

but then sasori will make a tidal wave back with poison MUHEHEHE
jk but yea but kisame wouldn't know if there was poison in the water cuz it's impossible to notice

[KageNaruto]

well the poison sasori uses is colored.

also in the beggining when sasori was introduced it was said that he uses a style in which he fights with poison but the oppoent knows about it

[y.o.]

The only reason the poison is colored is b/c its a anime they cant very well put clear poison or else people wont reconize it so they make it a bright color!

And CR you made an excellent argument, but one thing you didnt take into consideration, it doesnt matter how many puppets Kisame smashes, Sasori could just move to another one, and his kazekage puppet would be very effective against kisame cause that puppet stays at a distance while he fights w/ it

He uses that iron sand jutsu and traps that are in the kazekage puppet, so the puppet would get close eough to kisame that he can absorb his chakra strings or cut them!

Not to mention, I cant see kisame avoiding all sasoris traps and poisons, granted I dont think Sasori can deal w/ the huge, and powerful jutsus I know kisame is capable of but he will see them comin a mile away since he will kep his distance

One more huge factor to think about, the setting! Kisame is able to change the landscape to suit his water jutsus, takin up a massive area, much like the garra kimi fight, I would take kisami! But if it were somewere were he couldnt use that effectively like a hill or moutain side I say Sasori hands down, w/o the field advantage Kisame most likely wont beat Sasori!

[KageNaruto]

why would they be fighting on a hill or mountain side, who fights on a sloped area (well i mean the whole fight).

kisame can just jump down off the hill.

also they can easily make it colorless and just explain that, its not that hard to do

besides if it has color it has color the reason doesent matter

[Pryce]

why would they be fighting on a hill or mountain side, who fights on a sloped area
kisame can just jump down off the cliff.


yeah but he would die from the drop....

i cant remember if i posted yet but i say sasori would win because it would take a hell of alot of water and pressure to kill him but to kill kisame only a little poison and sasori has a wider range of attacks and defences

[y.o.]

Kakahi was fightin those Ice village nin on a glacier, not to mention naruto has been hanging of cliffs for tha longest

And if by some dumbass reason kisame would go to the bottom to draw sasori down, he would be killed, he just gave up his only advantage being a close-mid fighter, to a mid-long range figher who has a tactical advan being that hes in an elevated position!

[CRtwenty]

First of all, Sasori only has one Hiroku and Sasori puppet... and like I said, the chakra draining abilities of the Samehada would probably render his normal puppets useless.

The Third Kazekage might help, with his iron sand. But Kisame could easily counter it with an equally powerful water attack.

I see this as being a close range fight... not a long range fight.

[KageNaruto]

Kakahi was fightin those Ice village nin on a glacier, not to mention naruto has been hanging of cliffs for tha longest

And if by some dumbass reason kisame would go to the bottom to draw sasori down, he would be killed, he just gave up his only advantage being a close-mid fighter, to a mid-long range figher who has a tactical advan being that hes in an elevated position!

the movie is a giant filler. in the manga fillers dont exist

[Ichee]

The only reason the poison is colored is b/c its a anime they cant very well put clear poison or else people wont reconize it so they make it a bright color!

And CR you made an excellent argument, but one thing you didnt take into consideration, it doesnt matter how many puppets Kisame smashes, Sasori could just move to another one, and his kazekage puppet would be very effective against kisame cause that puppet stays at a distance while he fights w/ it

He uses that iron sand jutsu and traps that are in the kazekage puppet, so the puppet would get close eough to kisame that he can absorb his chakra strings or cut them!

Not to mention, I cant see kisame avoiding all sasoris traps and poisons, granted I dont think Sasori can deal w/ the huge, and powerful jutsus I know kisame is capable of but he will see them comin a mile away since he will kep his distance

One more huge factor to think about, the setting! Kisame is able to change the landscape to suit his water jutsus, takin up a massive area, much like the garra kimi fight, I would take kisami! But if it were somewere were he couldnt use that effectively like a hill or moutain side I say Sasori hands down, w/o the field advantage Kisame most likely wont beat Sasori!


I see where you coming from.... That why I said Kisame cutting the chakr strings wouldn't really help him win...

Not only does Sasori have hundreds of puppets but he can un and reattach his chakra strings..
So once Kisame wastes his time cutting ths strings Sasori can just re-attach them easily and then counter...

I see this battle being very close because a very big slip up can go to eithier one....

For example Kisame mistake would be focusing on all the puppets which I think he will do and trying to very big attacks.. Since Sasori would be watching from a long distance Kisame huge attacks can give Kisame many openings...

Kisame best bet would be to change the landscape into a water landscape and make water clones. Then have his clones cover for him so he can get close enough to attack Sasori in his core...

Sasori biggest mistake would be to take Kisame lightly..like he did with Sakura and Chiyo..

All Sasori has to do is get one good poison shot upon Kisame and it should be over since his body would go numb..

-_-

[AK47]

the only puppets weakness is shino's clan skill
there bugs just clog up puppets and eat chakra strings
that's all there is
so if bugs can eat up chakra and defeat puppets
then kisame probably has a chance with sasori too

[y.o.]

What does shino, his clan, and jutsu's have to do w/ kisami and samihada??

[KageNaruto]

but he can control 100 puppets, and i dont think theres enough bugs to take care of all of em.

also iron sand can clog up puppets, prob a lot of things can clog puppets

[y.o.]

yeah everything but kisami's sword, I have no idea why that quote was made!

[AK47]

oh i don't know why either i forget
i think it's because i thought the bugs could eat the chakra strings
and that can make a puppeteer lose it's control of the puppet so if kisame ate the chakra strings with his samehada then yea
but it can be wrong
anyways sasori is dead so let him RIP

[y.o.]

But you said nothing about the bugs eatin the strings you said clogging up the joints!

[AK47]

But you said nothing about the bugs eatin the strings you said clogging up the joints!
yea i know i was just typing my post and eating at the same time so i forgot what to say and stuff
sry y'all

[KageNaruto]

y.o. lol dont get on his case over such a small thing

[y.o.]

You always do that to me, I cant mess up even in the slightest

for exsample the garra thing, I tried posting the manga page I downloaded to show you what I saw but It wouldnt load for some reason

But you got in my ass for the longest time!

[AK47]

You always do that to me, I cant mess up even in the slightest

for exsample the garra thing, I tried posting the manga page I downloaded to show you what I saw but It wouldnt load for some reason

But you got in my ass for the longest time!
yes why do you guys hate each other and don't say you don't
cuz i know....
i like sasori but i would say kisame would win
kisame just seems he has the most potential and i think that sasori and deidra are the weakest of the bunch

[KageNaruto]

You always do that to me, I cant mess up even in the slightest

for exsample the garra thing, I tried posting the manga page I downloaded to show you what I saw but It wouldnt load for some reason

But you got in my ass for the longest time!
yes why do you guys hate each other and don't say you don't
cuz i know....
i like sasori but i would say kisame would win
kisame just seems he has the most potential and i think that sasori and deidra are the weakest of the bunch

cause we are like rivals! kinda like naruto/sasuke style

[CRtwenty]

I didn't say anything about Kisame cutting the chakra strings.

Remember when he drained Naruto's chakra? He didn't even move the sword, Naruto's chakra was just stolen from him. All Kisame has to do is just concentrate, and the weak chakra threads will dissolve. Heck, he might not even have to do that. Samehada might work automatically. (Which is possible, especially if Kisame is really a Jinchuuriki)

[KageNaruto]

but he also has to be at least somewhat close to the chakra strings to do that, and some puppets can attack from far (not that im going with sasori for the win but im just saying)

[AK47]

I didn't say anything about Kisame cutting the chakra strings.

Remember when he drained Naruto's chakra? He didn't even move the sword, Naruto's chakra was just stolen from him. All Kisame has to do is just concentrate, and the weak chakra threads will dissolve. Heck, he might not even have to do that. Samehada might work automatically. (Which is possible, especially if Kisame is really a Jinchuuriki)
i don't understand that part
i thought kisame's sword ate the chakra, although his sword didn't move

[KageNaruto]

it basicly absorbs the chakra as far as i understand it

also for sasori to use the jutsu of the puppets, he has to put his won chakra into the puppet right? so does he do that through the chakra strings or what? cause then hes at more of a disadvantage

lol id liek to see kisame hit kaiten with his sword and see if the chakra gets absorbed or what, it would be a fun thing to see happen lol

[AK47]

it basicly absorbs the chakra as far as i understand it

also for sasori to use the jutsu of the puppets, he has to put his won chakra into the puppet right? so does he do that through the chakra strings or what? cause then hes at more of a disadvantage

lol id liek to see kisame hit kaiten with his sword and see if the chakra gets absorbed or what, it would be a fun thing to see happen lol
yea i was confused of how sasori used the iron sand thing
and i thought it he might be using a similar technique like orochimaru's summoning technique (the two hokages)
but instead sasori has full control over the puppet and trained himself to use the jutsus

[y.o.]

It was said that the sand kazekage puppet had its own chakra, and jutsus, so Sasori only had to use his chakra for the chakra string like a puppeteer does!

And for the resord kisame swung the sword to devour Narutos Chakra, I just checked the episode to make sure, I dont know if it was the same in the mange, but I think thats what they would have meant in the mange

If it aint sorry, but find the chap #, vol, and pg, prove me wrong!

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

hey i didn't think this thread would be so intresting.i think it's time fo rmy 2 cents

sasori is at a disadvantage because his chakra strings are so weak and as Cr said it would b eaten up almost instantly and kagenaruto puppets attacking kisame from a long distance could be easily defelcted and i'm pretty sure sasori wouldn't want the puppet by his side the whole time kisame could just attack him instead of the puppet.

and the puppets won't be able to move in the water so easily because it's just hard to move in water but kisame would most likely move like aquaman in the water and would outmaunevour the puppets smashing them and the poison is also on the needle and the water can just wash it away and sasori poison proably has to be in your blood to hurt you

[y.o.]

But what I dont understand, you all keep talking about chakra strings being eating up, but

1st he would have to had gotten him out that armored puppet which wouldnt have been easy, remember tha 1st attack that Sasori launched while in that thing??

2nd if he forced him out, which is likely now if he used any puppets, he doesnt use his like kankaro, all his puppets attack from a large distance

Basically, if Sasori is attacking form long range the med would be his puppet attackin form mid to long range, basically he cant even get close to the chakra strings and if he did, Sasori would have no problem reattaching them, he would have to being swinging samihada like crazy to keep absorbing them

Also the puppets would never be underwater, that makes no sense! Why would they be underwater when sasori can walk on water??

Even if he was attacking from underwater it wouldnt be that hard to run away to higher ground!! Unless hes out in the mid of the sea or Kisame can spit out miles of water that wont make any impact on the fight!

And I dont even wanna bring in the fact of the 100 puppets, to deal w/ a wall of poisonus defensive and offensive puppets, hundreds attacks coming from everywere!! I dont think he can avoid all them!

[KageNaruto]

It was said that the sand kazekage puppet had its own chakra, and jutsus, so Sasori only had to use his chakra for the chakra string like a puppeteer does!

And for the resord kisame swung the sword to devour Narutos Chakra, I just checked the episode to make sure, I dont know if it was the same in the mange, but I think thats what they would have meant in the mange

If it aint sorry, but find the chap #, vol, and pg, prove me wrong!

then why does sasori say, "itll use up a lot of chakra, but this will finsih it"?

i dont think he cares about the chakra of the kazekage since he has 297 other puppets to use.

so the jutsus of the puppets must need his won chakra (i think, still unsure)

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

first of all kisame has super human strenght which imo is proably equal to tsunade's so that alone well demolish his first puppet and him going in for an attack isn't necessary his shark missle alone imo would be able to break his first puppet and his first puppet has no attack with enough force to stop it.and look at where kisame had spit up the water when he was fighging team gai he most have spit up hundreds of gallons and if sasori walks on the water how doe she expect to attack beneath him with his puppets and kisame can easily attack him.

and if you wanna throw in the kkazekage puppet that still ain't touching kisame because his water attacks imo would be able to parry the iron sand we could pretty much say kisame has all of the water attacks that we've have seen so far in manga and even more that water blast thing that had sent zabuza flying is a powerful water move that to could parry his attack and kisame can just make clones and have the attack all at once.

[y.o.]

It was said that the sand kazekage puppet had its own chakra, and jutsus, so Sasori only had to use his chakra for the chakra string like a puppeteer does!

And for the resord kisame swung the sword to devour Narutos Chakra, I just checked the episode to make sure, I dont know if it was the same in the mange, but I think thats what they would have meant in the mange

If it aint sorry, but find the chap #, vol, and pg, prove me wrong!

then why does sasori say, "itll use up a lot of chakra, but this will finsih it"?

i dont think he cares about the chakra of the kazekage since he has 297 other puppets to use.

so the jutsus of the puppets must need his won chakra (i think, still unsure)

Whos to say that he didnt mean it will take alot of the puppets chakra, and its possible that to activate chakra, jutsus, movements of the puppet it takes more or less of his own chakra

[KageNaruto]

It was said that the sand kazekage puppet had its own chakra, and jutsus, so Sasori only had to use his chakra for the chakra string like a puppeteer does!

And for the resord kisame swung the sword to devour Narutos Chakra, I just checked the episode to make sure, I dont know if it was the same in the mange, but I think thats what they would have meant in the mange

If it aint sorry, but find the chap #, vol, and pg, prove me wrong!

then why does sasori say, "itll use up a lot of chakra, but this will finsih it"?

i dont think he cares about the chakra of the kazekage since he has 297 other puppets to use.

so the jutsus of the puppets must need his won chakra (i think, still unsure)

Whos to say that he didnt mean it will take alot of the puppets chakra, and its possible that to activate chakra, jutsus, movements of the puppet it takes more or less of his own chakra

well thats what i said. why would he care about the kazekage's chakra since theres another 297 puppets he could use? it doesent seem logical at all, i think he needs to supply his own chakra to the puppet

[y.o.]

No he might have meant it will take up alot of the puppets chakra!

And died47 those water jutsus ccan have countered reg sand, like garras, but not iron sand its metal, water would have had little effect of stopping it!

[KageNaruto]

you already said that, what ims aying is why the hell would he care about the puppet's chakra when he has 297 others to use?

youre just making me repeat myself

[y.o.]

Cause all the other might not have been made the same way, remeber he made the kazekage puppet while he was still alive, if he made puppets out of chiyo and sakura he probly would have killed them and then made puppets, not to mention thats his most powerful puppet and whos to say weather he can replinish the chakra??

But its just like anything else if you play RPG'g your dont wanna use all the power in your enchanted weapon in one fight, you wanna perserve as much as possible especially since he knew naruto and kakashi was outside w/ diedra and diedra was at a disadvantage

[KageNaruto]

still doesent seem right, also he made that puppet while the kazekage was still alive? can you post that page, it doesent ring any bells

[y.o.]

thats how he was able to do the jutsu, remeber when chiyo said Sasori was the only one able to create puppets that way, I cant seem to post the pages I tried when I want to show I didnt see Garra controling sand but google hitokugutsu chap 30, 268 and page 30 last panel chiyo says it!

[KageNaruto]

lol dude. he doesent create the puppet when the person is still alive. he kills em first and turns their body into a puppet in a way which their orginal chakra and jutsus can still be used.

they are dead first

[y.o.]

I still have the page open right now I will quote the whole window for you

Sakura: What do you mean, Isnt it just a puppet? how can a puppet made from a corpse hold chakra

Chiyo:Because he didnt make it from a corpse he made sandime into a puppet while he was still alive. Its called "HITOKUGUTSU" and its crafted so that the chakra of the victimhad while still alive stays there...

I think that proves my point, download it again!

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

lol i was just about to say your right but w/e back to the argument now i doubt his iron sand would be able to move at it's full speed in the water especially with such a force and not to mention that his kazekage puppet was broken by sakura so kisame can do the same

[y.o.]

Sasori would never let that puppet get that close to him, he thought he had sakura and she suprised him!

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

so i guess the puppet has that huge claw with poison on it for nothing then and so what if sasori wouldn't let the puppet come in for an attack knowing kisame he's gonna be the one bringing the fight to him

[KageNaruto]

y.o., i still cant find it, this is all i found:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/KageNaruto/naruto_ch268_p10.png
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/KageNaruto/naruto_ch268_p11.png

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

can't find what that looks like thats it she said he's a human puppet that was made while he was alive and whoelse besides sasori would do such a thing and sasori firs human puppets were his parents.

[KageNaruto]

but it doesent say he made em while they were alive, he hadda kill em first and then turn them into puppets

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

IN the fifth frame it explains it a human puppet that still has it's chakra because it was turned into a puppet while it was still alive thats what it basically is saying and sasori could have just drugged him up or most likely had kicked his ass then proably strpped him down or something who the hell knows

[KageNaruto]

it means he sued a once living body to create it instead of wood and metal. the person was still dead first, they werent alive, beides if he tried to turn a person into a puppet they would die while he was doing it.

he kills the person, and then uses their body for the puppet

[y.o.]

I already know your argument when I say this, my translation was wrong b4 cause it didnt show garras sand manipultion ability, but what I wrote was the same page, actually but said sandime kazekage was made into a puppe while he was still alive, if you tell me how I wil post the page I have but alll the methods I know dont work!

[KageNaruto]

yeah please post the page. i just upload the pic to photobucket.com, and then paste the IMG of it. please paste your page cause i cant find it, or keep skippin it somehow lol

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

why would they call it a human puppet if it wasn't created out of a human and it still has it's past chakra.

[steve]

yawn. I didnt read any of the thread, but I voted for sasori. Although weve only seen 30% of kisame's force, I would say that weve seen most of his jutsu or at least his style of fighting. The rest of his power is probably just in raw strength(he's overpowered gai and uh... asuma) and apart from a few more powerful jutsu, I would guess that its alot of the same old. I just get the feeling that puppets are a bit more ... versatile. He can battle short range and long range with equal effectiveness. He can create endless illusions and counterattacks with puppers.

Im sure that kisame would flood the battle field, but I imagine they puppets were made with varying battle conditions in mind. It wouldnt be too wise of sasori to have made his puppets susceptable(eww spelling failOR) to different elements. I dont know, i might be wrong tho.

Either way, they are/were both wicked cool characters.

[KageNaruto]

why would they call it a human puppet if it wasn't created out of a human and it still has it's past chakra.

are you such a dork (dont wanna use worse lingo) that you dont understand!????? he klls the f***ing person! he use stheir body and transforms it into a puppet in his mysterious ways that it can use its original jutsus! its a human puppet cause its made from a body of a human! get it past your brain so i dont havta repeat myself.

[Ichee]

I agree with Kage...

It's fucking common sense.....

Kage, Y.O probably saying hes super man and if someone was trying to turn him into a puppet he'll be alive....

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

*diedf47 dodges the bullets that fly at him*was it neccesary to curse i taought it was your dumb self who couldn't understand it but whatever i'm not even gonna argue about it this is a versus thread beileve what you wanna beileve

[y.o.]

See I told you so...

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/sexii_cha/v30_ch268_10.png

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

thanks for posting that now do you undertsand Kagenaruto?the puppet was made froma living person the person was still alive when it was turned into a puppet not dead

[y.o.]

Thats not even the original page I had b4 I just downloaded tha mange volume over again, the original that I did have


Chiyo blantenly said kazekage was made into a puppet while he was still alilve

[superkhanh0]

but the question is can sasori control puppets under water? how can he moves charka threads underwater

[imported_Greenlitflag]

but the question is can sasori control puppets under water? how can he moves charka threads underwater

... is chakra not water proof?

[y.o.]

that was what I was thinking if chakra can control elements fire, water, ice and whatever why would his chakra disolve underwater??

[AK47]

i thnk he meant that sasori's chakra strings might be slower in water and harder to control

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

sasori cna move the chakra strings in the water but how is a something like apuppet in water suppose to move naturaly it's going to be slow as sh^t it's the same as chiyo contoling sakura under water sakura is not gonna be able to move through the water fast enough to be effective

[gerbster11]

Thank you, thats exactly what i was saying like 4 pages ago, also, how would sasori be able to control puppets properly if kisame can also create whirlpools and different currents, and sharks attacking???

[KageNaruto]

See I told you so...

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/sexii_cha/v30_ch268_10.png

doesent say the person was alive at all. the person was still dead, its just created from a human body that used to be alive. this still doesent pove anything.

[AK47]

k chiyo says that " a puppet is made from the body of a living person"

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

what can't you understand read the last 2 frames chiyo says it's a puppet made from the body of a living person and that explains why it has chakra no offense are you dumb or are you just being stubborn

[y.o.]

Hes just being stubborn, I have another translation but I cant post it intil monday, and shes blantely says he was made n2 a puppet while he was still alive!

No if ands or butts about it!

He can also google it, its in wikipedia too!

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

so lets get bakc to sasori getting owned his chakra threads are gonna et sucked up way to easy for kisame to really even concentrate about it rendering him useless to use puppets he can't move the puppets underwater at a speed to fight anybody it's just comensense the force is to great and kisame owns him with water jutsus i know this arguement is weak but it's just to start up conversation

[y.o.]

I dont understand why you think that! His puppets attack from a distance not close enough for him to absorb a sugniffigant amount! And its not like hes gonna take all his chakra that way, he can easily reattach them, the beth part is if sasori was forced to use himself, he uses no chakra for his attacks unless he uses the 100 puppet jutsu!

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

okayy if he uses himself how good of a puppet is he? imo he himself is proably one of his weakest puppets and all kisame has to do is punch a hole in his chest or fire a suiton jutsus there and on sution jutsus alone is enough to break him apart(i know he ocmes back together i'm just saying).

[y.o.]

No, if he is forced to use himself, it a last resort but I seriously dought his last puppet is his weakest, its probley his 2nd strongest behind the kazekage puppet, anyone w/ any sense would make themselves, being thats there last defence the strongest of all!

[y.o.]

No, if he is forced to use himself, it a last resort but I seriously dought his last puppet is his weakest, its probley his 2nd strongest behind the kazekage puppet, anyone w/ any sense would make themselves, being thats there last defence the strongest of all!

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

but how many traps and stuff can he really put in himself to be like a real puppet he himself as a puppet just didn't see to impressive to me

[y.o.]

He really didnt get to show much, and Im pos that he can put just as many traps in himself as any other puppet the only part thats him is his eyes and piece of flesh, but that rope/stinger he had was very powerful, he was able to fly/glide and he didnt have to waste chakra to operate it like he did w/ his other puppets

One more thing, I think he performs his most powerful jutsus in that stage, like his 100 puppet jutsu and whatever the other 2 scrolls he had in that puppet, thats why I think it was his strongest!

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

i still think different but he can perform the 100 puppet jutsus once his first puppet is broken

[y.o.]

but he doesnt want to clue his opponet off and let them know hes a puppet too, and he doesn't have enough fingers for all those puppets the only way to do it is take off the robe. And use that piece of flesh in his chest!

the funny thing I just thought about is, sasori is probley the only member of atkuski who own's 2 robes and weres them at all times!!

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

lol i forgot all aout him controling them form his chets so i guess your right but he didn't seem to do as good as his kazekage puppet

[y.o.]

Thats cause he didnt use any jutsus, just traps and tried to overwelm the opponet, while using the kazekage puppet he was using the iron sand jutsu which is why it was so powerful, and I did say that was his stongest and most likely his last puppet, himself was the 2nd strongest!

[Ichee]

I say himself was the strongest puppet because he did defeat the Kazekage....

-_-

[y.o.]

They dont say weather he was or wasnt, but I dont think that he was a puppet when he killed the kazekage!

[.Sask]

I go with Kisame.

Think about it, Sasori was defeated by Sakura and the old lady by pure strength and tactic. It might be true that Kisame rushes out in battle, but he was strength matched up with with Sakura (if not, greater). He''ll be able to handle Sasori since he has the upperhand in strength, speed, and jutsu's, but area will affect this battle greater, since Kisame needs water to use most of his jutsu's, but if he can't use any, he could just use his sword.

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

kisame can spit water up to use and attack and here we go agin with his sword sucking up his chakra strings if he uses that 100 puppet jutsus

[.Sask]

:P
I completely forgot that Kisame's sword can suck up chakra, thanks for the reminder XD. What I meant about the sword was that he could use his strength to break all of his puppets like Sakura broke Sasori's puppet's.

[FlashFlicker]

kisame probably has a way of removing poison from his body or mabey even is immune to any type of poison because of his fish blood and humongous chakra, I'll go with kisame.

[Ichee]

Yea KIsame ownz....

Sasori is more smarter but Kisame chakra and strength surpasses his brains...

[y.o.]

What in the hell makes you think that hes immune to poison, news flash fish die from pulluted water and poison, and so would kisame!

And the comment that kisame strength and chakra surpasses his brains aint a good thing!

[FlashFlicker]

What in the hell makes you think that hes immune to poison, news flash fish die from pulluted water and poison, and so would kisame!

And the comment that kisame strength and chakra surpasses his brains aint a good thing!

How do you know he doesnt have special fish blood. I mean theres fish that live in Deep ocean trenches that survive off of gases which are highly poisonous to other species of fish. LOL. I was just saying maybe he does. its not that big of a deal. In this case his strength is a good thing because fighting all those puppets requires a ton of strength and stamina since he's not a medic.

[y.o.]

1st off this is getting ridiculous, hes a shark not any ol fish, special species or anything like that, and you are making up all kind of wild ass assumtions that have no base to them at all!

[FlashFlicker]

Yeah I am making stuff up, thats because we BARELY know ANYTHING about Kisame.

[y.o.]

ctually we do, we dont have a back story on him or anything but we do know alot, I dont feell like listing it all right now though

[FlashFlicker]

We've barely seen him fight, and when we did really see him fight it wasn't really his full power so theres many things he was probably unable to do. Therefore we DONT know very much about his abilities we dont even know what he does with all the chakra in his samehada. Anyways its against the rules to have a conversation b/w 2 people with more than 3 posts so i'll stop until someone else says something, that is if they do.

[y.o.]

Its not against the rules if they are relevant post to the topic, and We have barely seen anyone at there full ability,

there has only really been, naruto, sauske, neji, ino, sakura, garra, and choji!

Anyone else I dont think they have used there full abilities or better yet, we have seen them go all out other than the main characters

[FlashFlicker]

Well we have seen sasori go all out he even used himself and his metal sand that was his trump card. So sasori went all out.

[y.o.]

true, I really wanted to see those other 2 scrolls he had, maybe kankaro will find them and be able to use them later on in the series!!

[Ichee]

The poll is tied... 0_o

This has become very debatable but for some reason all my presidents is on Kisame...

Hes just that guy....

-__-

[y.o.]

Sasori would beat him cause I dont think kisame he can absorb his chakra strings even if he did can can just reattach them in no time, and I seriously think that he cant beat that kazekage puppet!!

[2Pac]

kisame hands down.

[KageNaruto]

Sasori would beat him cause I dont think kisame he can absorb his chakra strings even if he did can can just reattach them in no time, and I seriously think that he cant beat that kazekage puppet!!

sakura beat it in one punch, i really dont think its that hard

[y.o.]

That puppet fights from a distance so does sasori so even if he did some how defeat that puppet he would lose to the 100 puppet jutsu!

[Sol]

If you think about it, Kisame has a long ranged attack as well. He can throw his Shamehada really really far. Did you see how far and fast he threw it when he was fighting Gai and co. when he was about to use his Aqua Shockwave attack? Plus when Gai took Shamehada away, Kisame called it back (kinda like a Luke Skywalker Force Pull). He could probably thow his blade like a boomerang, then call it back.

[y.o.]

Thats very true, but Im sure that sasori can block that somehow!

[Sol]

Here is something to think of if these two fight. This could litterally turn into a 100 on 100 battle! Since Sasori could use his puppets and Kisame could use Water Bunshins. That would be sweet to see Sasori and his 100 puppets go against 101 Kisames. : P

And if Kisame just wanted cheap KO's on Sasori's pupets, he could just have his Water Bunshins use Aqua Prison on each of em.

[y.o.]

water buushins are weak though we all know that since the begging of the show now what would be interesting would be if he can keep them coming once there destroyed!!

And he would have to catch his puppets 1st!

[Sol]

True but each of those puppets cant be very strong. And as for the Water clones even if each clone has 1/10th (or maybe 1/100th because of the number) the strength of the origional, thats still alot since this is Kisame. But you are right, catching them would be rather difficult.

[y.o.]

there not clones so there 100%, not 1/10 of the original, cause no original exsist!

[Sol]

Then why did Haku say this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/Zero_Limits/WaterClones.jpg

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

anyway....we've got that settled kisame owns sasori he can easily smash his first puppet.the kazekage puppet iron sand jutsus can be nullfified or slowed down with his water jutsus and then and he can just break like sakura did.and for his 100 puppet jutsus he can suck up the strings how strong do you think the chakra string are he'll hardly have to concentrate.and him sucking up the chakra strings while having his clones attack with water jutsus owns sasori even more.

[y.o.]

Then why did Haku say this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/Zero_Limits/WaterClones.jpg

I was talking about the puppets genius!!

[Sol]

Ohhh I see what you were saying. My bad, I made my post a little too confusing. Seems like a write how I think! : P Let me fix that....

[y.o.]

I think the puppets would own the mizu buushins!

[KageNaruto]

I think the puppets would own the mizu buushins!

depends which puppets and how many mizu bunshin. 5 mizu bunshin to a puppet, i see them going down.

plus mizu bunshin takes a lot less chakra than kage bunshin, naruto created like 1000 clones before and still summoned with his own chakra, and kisame has the most cakra in the series. i think thats a lot of mizu bunshin

[y.o.]

that would be 500 mizu buushins, that is a small war, although I think kisame is totally capable of it, I doubt he would do it but then again the mizu buushins would probly be immune to all the poison attacks!!

This would be a very interesting fight, just thinking about all the different scenerios we are coming up w/!!

[PA[kakashi]CO]

Kisames samehada will shave sasori into a pile of wood chips... enough said... (laughs at his own joke)

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

lol yea he can do tha too.and kisame making 500 mizubushin is very noobish of him i dount he would do something like that

[KageNaruto]

lol yea he can do tha too.and kisame making 500 mizubushin is very noobish of him i dount he would do something like that

create 500 mizu bunshin. each one does the 10shark feeding frenzy attack. now thats 5000 sharks!^^

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

still stupid of hi to create so many i'll say he should make about 20 of them and use his shark missle thingy

[y.o.]

SAme w/ naruto, I highly dought we will see to many more taijuu kage buushins nomore!

He seems to use his clones more stratigically, and conserve his chakra, instead of creating hundreds and wasting all of them for one hit!!

[Sol]

Well his Naruto Scroll's attack that he performed while using Taijuu Kage Bunshin, was one of the most damaging things I have ever seen. He almost beat Gaara back to his regular form.

You know what naruto needs to learn, how to make his clones explode like Itachi's. Then he would be very difficult to stop, because even if you were about to dispell a clone it would explode and deal damage to you. If he could do that and mix it with Taijuu Kage Bunshin he could cause some serious damage to anybody.

Ok back on topic

I still think that Kisame using alot of Mizu Bunshins would be rather effective against Sasori's puppits, since each of them can hold an maintain a Water Prison. All the real Kisame has to do is take a swing at each one in a prison with his Shamehade. It would be a guarenteed hit, since you cant move while in the Water Prison. However, do you think that would work with a puppet? After all its not moving under its own power, but rather is manipulated by chakra strings....

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

okay but umm his swords sucks up chakra and chakra strings are weak they;ll get sucked up way to easy making his 100 pupet jutsus useless anyway.and since kisame swords shaves i doubt sasori can come back to togehter from being saw wood

[y.o.]

okay but umm his swords sucks up chakra and chakra strings are weak they;ll get sucked up way to easy making his 100 pupet jutsus useless anyway.and since kisame swords shaves i doubt sasori can come back to togehter from being saw wood

This is the dumbest fucking argument made, 1st off as we seen the puppets rarely get close enough for that, it would be easier to hit the puppet w/ tha sword!

And as fast as he absorbs them, sasori can attach them, like kankoru said its nothing for a puppeeter to reattach them!

[CRtwenty]

True, but this isn't something that Kisame really wills to happen. Samehada just eats chakra on its own. So it'd make things harder on Sasori.

[y.o.]

Sorry but I dont think thats true, cause it would cosume itachis too, just cause how close they normally stand, almost same distance b/n kisame and naruto!

I think he would still have to swing the sword

And sasori knows of that sword, he wont let those puppets get anywere near that sword!

[kjrav]

GO KISAME!!

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

umm what are you tlaking about te puppets don't get that close did you see hi spuppets go up agasin't chiyo's pupets most of the battle was in close counters.sasori just simply can'twin agasin't someone like kisame his chakra strings or gonna keep getting sucked up and kisame and his nature of fighting is gonna make it hard for sasori to attach them again without taking the risk of being attacked

[st george]

i vote sasori.
whether puppets fight close combat or not he mentions his collection of 200 human puppets and their jutsus. Just look at his iron sand technique, if it werent for sakuras antidote she would be dead. what im sayin is sasori has many jutsu types jus from the sheer amount of people he's killed, therefor it shouldnt be a problem for him fighting kisame long distance with a tehcnique like the iron sand.

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

once again kisame can suck up his chakra strings and kisame has long range jutsus too not to mention his puppet woulnd't be able to fight properly underwater.

[eighttailedfox]

does sasori 50 pupet jutsu even use chakara strings ?
its not like kisame's sword will just ' eat ' chakara from 10 feet away he had to like touch naruto to feed his sword its not a high powered vacum that will suck up strings.if it was able to suck up chakara from that far away itachi would have no chakara half the time and he would have been able to beat azuma in like 2 minutes. this might not have any relevance at all but wouldnt water destroy the paper scrolls sasori has in his chest?
kisame> world
sasori is strong though, if we could see the technique that got him all those nice "informants" of his id probably say hes stronger because he had a few jounin under it as well as kabuto for a few years.
edit; kisame has a bijou in him also so i think hes stronger

[y.o.]

yes they use chakra strings, but aizen, your argument makes no sense cause did you see the fight w/ the kazekage puppet, it fought from a great distance the only time he bought it close to them is when he thought sakura was gonna die and went to deliver the final blow

And not to mentionhe could use himself, which has so chakra strings!!

And Sasori aint dumb enough to fight his puppet close range agaisnt samihada, he knows of that sword he aint dumb

Thats why I think your argument has no valitity!!

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

okay fine but how is he suppose to fight with is puppets if kisame lfoods the place with his water wave jutsus?his puppets can't float and he won't be able to mauenver properly in the water. and sasori using himself would make him lose even faster imo.i think he made himself into just so that he cna live forever but made sure he was an okay puppet he did way better with the kzaekage puppet thna he did with himself.and not to mention that kisame has tons of water jutsus thats gonna be able to break his puppets aprt such as water explosion,water dragon,shark missle, etc

[y.o.]

Ever heard or the water walking jutsu??

I dont remeber kisame fighting underwater either

And you seriously think that kisame can avoid getting poisoned gimme a break!

[KageNaruto]

Ever heard or the water walking jutsu??

I dont remeber kisame fighting underwater either

And you seriously think that kisame can avoid getting poisoned gimme a break!

poison comes in. giant waves sweeps it away

[AK47]

Ever heard or the water walking jutsu??

I dont remeber kisame fighting underwater either

And you seriously think that kisame can avoid getting poisoned gimme a break!

poison comes in. giant waves sweeps it away
yeah i bet,
naruto farts big airwave and blows all poison away
the only thing that can cure the poison is sakura or tsunade and both are neither in this situation

[y.o.]

You can poison water by the way and poison tipped needles will retain the poison through the waters!

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

the poison isn't running off the needle if it was everyone would know that it's poison.and sasori walking on water..whats your point how is he suppose o attack kisame that way and even if he does realease poison nin the water kisame can easilay get rid of it by washing it away

[AK47]

cant the water just wash away the poison?

Yes, but not very easily. Take a knife and dip it in like Vaseline or some other kind of sticky substance, then put it in water. You'll notice it tends to stick to the blade.

Also, a lot of the poison is probably in hollow tubes in the blades. So water wouldn't effect it.

[KageNaruto]

You can poison water by the way and poison tipped needles will retain the poison through the waters!

and thats why i said, water gets poisoned, and a giant wave sweeps it all away! (before it reaches kisame)

[y.o.]

the poison will stlill be in the water, I hope kisame doesnt get any in his gills or ingest that water!!

It wont bother Sasori either cause he cant get poisoned!

[KageNaruto]

the poison will stlill be in the water, I hope kisame doesnt get any in his gills or ingest that water!!

It wont bother Sasori either cause he cant get poisoned!

it wont be in the water if the water sweeps away the poison and itself to a different area

[y.o.]

I doubt he does that seeing as he would prefere water near him, cause thats how he uses his jutsu!

[KageNaruto]

I doubt he does that seeing as he would prefere water near him, cause thats how he uses his jutsu!

weve been spamming so much on this. look! posion enters water. kisame sweeps hat water far away. kisame makes more water.

got it? if you dont, dont bother posting anymore, i wont either, were just spammin

[y.o.]

Like kisames even gonna know! But I doubt he just keeps making huge bodies of water when poison gets in them!

[KageNaruto]

how hard is it to know? the poison is purple. if sasori tries injecting it into the water kisame sees it and sweeps it away. and he can make more water easily, and wouldnt be wasting chakra cause he has a huge amount

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

okay first of all how do you know that the poison h euses can ffect you thorugh your skin and the water would diloute the poison making it weaker or just simply make it uneffective

[y.o.]

how do you know sasoris poison is purple!

[KageNaruto]

cause so far all poision in naruto was purple, its either purple or some other color, thas for sure

[y.o.]

might be clear, you dont know so you cant say what will happen either way!

[AK47]

i thought sasori's poison was green, nah i think it's purple
well i don't rmemeber this thread but i think i voted for kisame, but i think it will be a long of a match when sasori fought with sakura and chiyo
too bad he can't fight him no more

[y.o.]

but I doubt we will see that, right now I think that sasori will still own!!

[st george]

yep i agree. sasori still owns. we still have no idea of what sasori is capable of cos hes made 200 human puppets and stolen all their jutsu. not to mention hes probably tampered with th jutsu to make them stronger

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

sasori used his strongest puppets that battle and his 100 puppet jutsus were proably all human puppets.he went all out that matach and lost beause he let his feelings get in the way.shinobi aren't suppose to have feelings and it's worst for him because he's evil.

[KageNaruto]

and because of that i think he is totally pathetic. hes in akatsuki, you frikin moron, why do you still have feelings!/ sasori = pathetic

[y.o.]

yeah, human nature, whats that for!!

I dont care who or what a person claims there gonna have emotions no matter how deep there buried

They will eventually surface, I mean to beat up on your own granny, and ya mom and dad, even though there human puppets!

You cant call someone pathetic for that! And he was immortal, He probly relized that was a mistake, that really a curse!!

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

he's fricking soft.look at oro he's immortal and he even killed his teacher and was gonna go through wiith destroying his entire village.you didn't see him frezzing up regreting what he's done.

[y.o.]

your family reletives all directly responsible for your exsistance, vs your teacher that you dont like cause you wasnt taking his place, (he picked someone ova him) and 1000's of anonymous people!!

Sasori already did that!!

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

okay none the less you can't say that any of the sannin didn't love sarutobi once upon a time.

[y.o.]

I didnt say that they didnt, obviously you develope a strong bond w/ your teacher, but Oro aint that type to care!

[Ichee]

Well Itachi didn't kill Sasuke so are you going to say hes soft...?

Oro didn't kill Anko so I guess hes soft too....

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

oro didn't want to kill anko because he just didn't want to he has no feelings for anybody maybe except for sasuke.and itachi saw something in sauske maybe something thta he has in himself or w/e but itachi didn't frezze up he killed his entire clan and left his brother alive for a reason and it's not because he feels guilty he wants sasuke to be as stronga s him or even stronger for some reason

[KageNaruto]

yeah itachi slaughtered his REAL parents, sasori couldnt even slughter his dead parents.

sasori = da suckiness

[y.o.]

And fight his granny!! Well I guess you were right about that, your cold blooded!

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

hey if he didn't have the guts to deal with killing his parents he never should have done it in the first place.if your gonna be evil be evil don't try to take it back at the very end.

[Lightsabers]

oro didn't want to kill anko because he just didn't want to he has no feelings for anybody maybe except for sasuke.and itachi saw something in sauske maybe something thta he has in himself or w/e but itachi didn't frezze up he killed his entire clan and left his brother alive for a reason and it's not because he feels guilty he wants sasuke to be as stronga s him or even stronger for some reasonHe left Sasuke alive because he wants Sasuke to become stronger than him. Basically, he already knows that if there is one person to truly defeat him, that person would be Sasuke. This also why I think Itachi might stop Orochimaru from taking over his body. He wants Sasuke to fight him, not Orochimaru.

[KageNaruto]

oro didn't want to kill anko because he just didn't want to he has no feelings for anybody maybe except for sasuke.and itachi saw something in sauske maybe something thta he has in himself or w/e but itachi didn't frezze up he killed his entire clan and left his brother alive for a reason and it's not because he feels guilty he wants sasuke to be as stronga s him or even stronger for some reasonHe left Sasuke alive because he wants Sasuke to become stronger than him. Basically, he already knows that if there is one person to truly defeat him, that person would be Sasuke. This also why I think Itachi might stop Orochimaru from taking over his body. He wants Sasuke to fight him, not Orochimaru.

or he just wants to see the last uchiha loose his mind and commit scuicide^^

[y.o.]

Or just test his own strength like he said!!

Although I personally think he had an alternative motive!