will Lee ever open his gates again?

[Tanooki_Naruto]

what do you guys think? I have no clue at all

[Kidd]

Yup, and I hope he gets to kill some really strong badguy nobody else can take down by opening a final gate and dying in the process, it'd be cool :P

[narutofanboy]

it would be the most awesome DEATH EVER!!!!

[NarutoNineTails]

8 gates vs "Super Kaiten" (Hiashi level Kaiten) would be awesome. Only way for lee to have a chance against Neji (assuming that by the time Lee achieves 8 gates, if he ever does, Neji would be at Hiashi's level).

[tevoro]

I voted YES but ...

Lee is one of my favourite characters, n I don't wanna see him die...

[Tanooki_Naruto]

on reflection, i think he will prolly use the gates again

[harddoom]

Dude have you guys listened to the anime? IF he does recover which he prolly will cause he absoultely hilarious, and he opens his 8 gates he dies. You see the 8th gate is the death gate, if he does that far, after all chakra is used, he dies.

[Tanooki_Naruto]

we know, but that still doesn't make it a bad way to die.
and also the topic is whether he will open ANY of his gates again so if he only opens 1 gate it still counts

[Chaos-Anubis]

that episode was kool...if he would of opened all his gates lee would die and garaa... :shock:

[ltachi]

yea but they said u have to b a genius to open a gate or sumthing like that....

[johnbunz]

I'd think he will... it was really cool when he opened those gates and it'd be cool seeing him opening all of them... but then it suck cuz hes a funny character like naruto...
Rock lee can't use ninjitsu?... or sumthing right.... it does seem that he has sum...

[Anbu Dr J]

noo he cant!! or he'll die!! the proud green beast cant die!! everybodies gonna miss his drunken boxing!!

[KageShiruken]

I believe he will open his gates again, and go further next time, but not to the death gate, and in a situation even more dangerous then with gaara

[«Äñßû»]

I think that he will definately open his gates again. After all, look at how motivated he is. Also, what would be really cool would be if he opened all eight gates and somehow still survived.

[KageShiruken]

yeah, that would be cool

[SynFcuk]

hmmm.. if he ever gets off his crutches he will ><

[katonkage]

wait a sec....i thought he was only capable of opening 5 so he wouldnt open 8....besides i dont want him to die.......anyway if it was for the right reason he would open up the gates again without hesitating

[nawar]

I KNOW THE ANSWER i beleive that he will open gates again, hehe hope i spoiled it for you ALL :twisted: :twisted:

[nawar]

by the way i was talking about gates as in the same meaning as doors, he will open his house door

[timeformydeath]

I am almost 99.99% positive that Lee can open his gates again because unless you are dead you can still do the move and if you read the manga It will be pretty hard to say he cant after watching Lee's fight. (Possible spoiler)

[nawar]

are you talking about his fight against the dog ( just saved your spoiler )

[ltachi]

yes he will

spoiler

in manga capter 24 he was healed and opens the first gate

[timeformydeath]

Your exactly right except it is Volume not Chapter
To do the secondary lotus requires the opening of the 1st gate


Don't Read if you want
That is exactly what he did and I thought he fought a skeleton or Mr.bones Kimimaru who stopped it with his rib cage after Lee was healed and had a nice drink (Lee) called Sake
Lee is healed hopefully 100% sure

[ltachi]

spoiler
lee used gate lvl1
it was kinda funny when he drank the sake cause he was a "natural drunken fighter"

[GonaShine]

after the exam,lee is cured by ganshou...(the name i forgot...)

[Dweezil]

ok.... let me reiterate myself yet again


STOP TALKING ABOUT THE MANGA IN THE ANIME DISCUSSION SECTION.


Did I get everyone's attention that time? There is a whole section devoted to the manga, just because you put spoiler in front of it, doesn't mean you should talk about that stuff here... there's a reason there are different sections for the anime and manga.... sheesh.

[Holyeternalx]

not to mention all the reasonable reasons due to story here why he will open the gates again, you gotta look at it from the standpoint of storytelling, he is a hero, and he has not yet fufilled his purpose as a character yet, and in anime as well as high fantasy stories they love bringing back the supposedly ruined fighter to fight and win against all odds, my bet would be on he heals, and somehow finds a way to open 7 gates, heck or even all 8 and still live

[Shinobi_X]

I say yes because it is on the late chapter of naruto manga and he is back in shape.

[naruto_guy]

if he does it will be the eighth gate and he will die

[miscalculatex]

I do think he'll do it again. When, I can't say for sure.

On a slightly related note, I do remember someone in the anime (I think it was Kakashi during Lee's fight with gaara) saying that if someone opened the 8 gates they would *most likely* die. Does this mean (if I am correct) that lee could theoretically survive if he DID open 8 gates? :D

[Hiyo]

I dont think Lee will ever use all 8 gates. Having Lee die or be injuried would just be a really hole in the story of naruto in my opinion. Plus he is a student to Gai so it doesn't really make since that he'd be able to use all the Gai the same as Gai.

I think if anyone was to open all 8 it would be Gai in order to protect Lee... and in doing so his body would be damaged and he would not be able to return to being a ninja.. then Lee would dedicate his life to taking care of Gai. It would be a sweet end to their father/son type story and it would give Lee more to think about in life then just becoming a ninja.

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

no offence but almost everybody who posted said really noobish stuff.lee can only open 5 gates out of the 8 and when he did open the 5 gates his muscles tore and he was in bad shap but the only reason his life as a ninja was threatned was because garra crushed his leg and arm.lee opened the first gate on kimimaro but he was not fully recovered and kimiaro caught his kick with his ribs.lee will open the gates again and the only reason he did open them was because he couldn't be the only one ot lose in the perliminary matches.lee only opens the gates when his opponent is strong and him opening them would help him win lee will open the gates again when he is in another battle that he can't just win with his regular speed and power and may need a extra edge to beat them.and lee cannot open all 8 gates and stop posting those stupid stuff in white it's already happen in the anime.now i fyou want a dam spoiler here

lee can only open 5 gates and has a long way to go before he can open all 8 and gai has opened 6 gates and performed a hot jutsus which he punches the sh8 out of you and it was very strong so imo thats proably all he can open too

[CRtwenty]

As far as we know, Lee is only able to open 5 gates. And if anybody was going to open all 8, it'd be Gai.

We probably will see them used again though.

[AK47]

rock lee is a genius and if he didn't all he would have is his fast taijutsu
his gates are his life!!!!!!! it's the only way to become a superninja
anyways when his next fight comes it will be very awesome
drunk lee should be used too

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

......lee without gates wow what a drawback for him....not really all the gates do is increases his speed and power he would kick ass with or without them

[Omaki_Roku]

Pridiction:::::::: In the final episodes of Naruto(whenever that may be) Neji and Lee will fight again in a tournament to decide whos going to be the next Hokage, And in this fight They will both go all out and lee will open all gates.


just a prediction, but if it ever happens you heard it from Omaki first!!

lol

wouldnt that just be sweet.

[superkhanh0]

lee wud learn to control it a lil more like how naruto control his kyuubi, lee wud learn to open his gates but undercontrol like not hurting his body much

[AK47]

yea but it still hurts him cause it's a double edged sword

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

control it he already has control over it and omak thats not kishi style and it's kinda dumb lee would kill himself just to beat neji....no i don't think lee has a grudge agaisn't neji anymore and if he still does he's not gonna go that far to beat him.lee using all 8 gates no time soon trust me maybe if he fights a member from akatsuki and it's his only option.

[Hiyo]

lee wud learn to control it a lil more like how naruto control his kyuubi, lee wud learn to open his gates but undercontrol like not hurting his body much

I don't think it's something you can 'control'. It's taking all the limits off the amount of chakra... I doubt even the best ninjas would be able to control the gates. That's the whole point about getting mess up when you open them.

no offence but almost everybody who posted said really noobish stuff.


You shouldn't be insulting the posts of others considering your posts are inaccurate as well. Tsunade clearly points out that it was fractures along Lee's spine that would need to be repaired if we was to remain a ninja. It was the gates that led to the surgery... Gaaras damage to Lee was just the obvious damage he had.

[Valleyman]

I believe Lee may open the gates again one day.

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

lee wud learn to control it a lil more like how naruto control his kyuubi, lee wud learn to open his gates but undercontrol like not hurting his body much

I don't think it's something you can 'control'. It's taking all the limits off the amount of chakra... I doubt even the best ninjas would be able to control the gates. That's the whole point about getting mess up when you open them.

no offence but almost everybody who posted said really noobish stuff.


You shouldn't be insulting the posts of others considering your posts are inaccurate as well. Tsunade clearly points out that it was fractures along Lee's spine that would need to be repaired if we was to remain a ninja. It was the gates that led to the surgery... Gaaras damage to Lee was just the obvious damage he had.

no him having his leg and arm crushed finished it the medical examiner said it.and lee was still walking around normally except that his arms and legs were crushed meaning he couldn't use them anymore his spine might have been damaged also but that wasn't that main cause.and i'm right not to sound conceited or better than anybody my post was basically the best post until everybody else came they were saying stupid stuff like he'll die and etc

[Fire_Fist]

He is gona open them for sure, he was gona do it against the one change his bones (I forget his name) and he was still injured.

[CRtwenty]

diedf is right. It was the damage that Gaara caused that caused Lee to need surgery. Apparently he shattered the bones in his arm and leg, causing him to have bone fragments lodged in several places in his body.

All the gates did was tear his muscles, something that could be repaired via medical jutsu and rest.

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

which means lee will use the gates again if necessary

[Valleyman]

Yeah, it said that he will die if he opens ALL 8 gates.

Lee can only open 5.

[ArenaNinja]

Lee will open all eight Gates and in the process unravel the 9th gate: Gates of Hell and wreak havoc upon all who oppose him! :lol:

Yes, we'll get to see the gates again from him, don't worry. It's his ultimate technique! At some point it might become as commonplace as seeing Naruto do Rasengan.

[Hiyo]

diedf is right. It was the damage that Gaara caused that caused Lee to need surgery. Apparently he shattered the bones in his arm and leg, causing him to have bone fragments lodged in several places in his body.

All the gates did was tear his muscles, something that could be repaired via medical jutsu and rest.

Sorry guys, but you are both wrong. Go rewatched episode 98. Tsunade clearly examines Lee's back and states that he has fragments embedded along his spine... putting him in no condition to carry out missions as a ninja :P

[Nova]

are you a moron??? really?? I just want to know.....Because arm, which the shoulder is a part of could have been shattered from the shock of Gaara's sand. And since the shoulder is so close to the spine, bone fragments could easily get into a position where surgery had the risk of severing the spinal chord.

[venin]

he will open. but the question is will he die

[Hiyo]

are you a moron??? really?? I just want to know.....Because arm, which the shoulder is a part of could have been shattered from the shock of Gaara's sand. And since the shoulder is so close to the spine, bone fragments could easily get into a position where surgery had the risk of severing the spinal chord.

Am I a moron? Those are pretty strong words to be throwing around when you are making a comment that holds absolutely no prove behind it.

The "shock" from Gaara's sand cause chips along the spinal cord? Since when does crushing a limb cause a "shock" along all the bones of the skeleton? lol.

Anyways, when Lee hits Gaara in primary lotus we get to see him taking a lot of damage to his opposite leg and arm just from the sheer pressure from the impact.

Sorry, the damage to the spinal cord being attributed to Gaaras crushing of his arm and leg isn't very logical. Opening up 5 gates is really the only plausible reason :P

[CRtwenty]

We know it wasn't the gate... how would opening the gate shatter his bones? The only explanation is that the damage from Gaara's attack shattered the bones in his arm and leg, and spread bone fragments throughout his body. Also...

SPOILERS: Gai has opened up to the Sixth Gate in the manga, and had absolutely no problems later on. There's no reason why Lee would have been any different, especially since he only opened up to the Fifth Gate. It was Gaara's injuries.

[Hiyo]

We know it wasn't the gate... how would opening the gate shatter his bones? The only explanation is that the damage from Gaara's attack shattered the bones in his arm and leg, and spread bone fragments throughout his body. Also...


All we know is that during the chunnin exam the examiners claimed Lee wouldn't be able to fight again cause of his leg and arm. Were they taking into account the possibility that Tsunade could return to heal him?

She examines his and clearly says he has fractures along his spinal cord.. the only way to get fractures along the spinal cord is to have pressure/damage impacting the spinal cord. All Gaara did was crush Lees arm and leg. It's silly to think that those injuries would cause spinal cord fractures... UNLESS he had twisted Lees body when he did it.. which he didn't.

How would opening the gates NOT cause damage to Lees body? Kakashi pointed out that Lees muscles to tear... muscles tear from expanding... that expanding would cause extreme pressure on all his bones.. which could fracture them. It was obviously Lees body was under a consideration amount of strain.


SPOILERS: Gai has opened up to the Sixth Gate in the manga, and had absolutely no problems later on. There's no reason why Lee would have been any different, especially since he only opened up to the Fifth Gate. It was Gaara's injuries.

Gai is also a mature male. Lee is a 13 year old developing boy. His bones are weaker.

[regina777]

considering the fact that Tsunade came back and healed him. and that he was able to fight with his improperly healed body with Kimimaro for a short while- i am sure he can get to opening the gates again.
if my memory serves me right- didnt he even use Omoto renge against kimi- isnt that the first/primary lotus?

and on the argument on how lee obtained those injuries- both arguments are correct. Just that it is not one - both opening of gates and Gaaras actions made Lees spine become what it became before Tsunade arrived.

[venin]

i dont see any evidence which is the source of the injury.
only explination i can come up with is gates.
based solely on the fact that gates are double edged sword.

[Shinobi Kenshin X]

Well, the topic has pretty much been answered, and the answer was quite obvious, which is YES.

I don't think he would do it anytime soon (opening more than 5 gates, I mean), though. He might later on, when he gets older and able to control opening the gates like Gai, and maybe he'll be able to get as far as opening the eigth gate, which would cause him to pretty much die, though that should be (like others have said) when Lee is fighting some big villian that is really hard to defeat (There's probably going to be more big evil guys than just Orochimaru, y'know? :\).

[Pryce]

yeah hes going to open them again because thats like the only thing he can do besides getting drunk

[KageNaruto]

well i rewtached episode 98, and it says multiple bone fragments are embedded deep within an important nerve system. those are the exact words. it doesent mean the spine neccesarily.

lee not being aninja till tsuande healed him is caused by gaara. even when the medics take him away he says how much dm the gates did but then says that the real rpoblem is the dmg he recieved from the sand.

the sand was what really endagngered lee, not gates

[Hiyo]

well i rewtached episode 98, and it says multiple bone fragments are embedded deep within an important nerve system. those are the exact words. it doesent mean the spine neccesarily.

lee not being aninja till tsuande healed him is caused by gaara. even when the medics take him away he says how much dm the gates did but then says that the real rpoblem is the dmg he recieved from the sand.

the sand was what really endagngered lee, not gates

hmm okay maybe i'll chalk up a little leway to the fact that lunars translation might have added in "spinal cord" as extra text..... the point is that she put her hand on his spine and examined his spine... not his arm... not his leg... and she didn't mention anything about his arm or leg being that bad.

The medical examines said his arm and leg were the problem purely for drama during the chunnin exam. Tsunade was the solution to this problem. Then to add more drama she examines him and says he needs an operation due to the body fractures.

I guess you can agrue it either way if you like. I find it pretty obvious that it was the gates that would have caused that damage... not Gaara mushing up his arm and leg. You guys can choose to think otherwise if you like. The point is.... there is absolutely no prove so say either option it 100% correct. I'd take Tsunades examination as more creditable over an examiner in the chunnin exam whose diagnosis was obviously supposed to be fixed when they got Tsunade back... thus the whole point of getting her to fix lee.

[imported_Greenlitflag]

Yeah, um, gates are not literal suicide, people. It causes damage that would be substantial if it there wasn't medical nin around. I also don't see how using gates would effect his bones, juding from the explaination it would seem like it would mostly only effect the muscles and not break his bones. If using gates meant damage that would disallow you to be a ninja then why would anyone use it?

[Pryce]

to ilistrate how bad lee's leg and arm was the next time u go to the beach grab a handfull of sand THAT basicly what lee's limbs were so i think it goes with out saying everyone in the room knew why

That was the whole reason behind getting her like if i go to the docter and say i have a rash is he going to tell me "wow u have a bad rash" no that would be stupid he going to do hiis job and see if anything else is wrong with my skin

[KageNaruto]

to ilistrate how bad lee's leg and arm was the next time u go to the beach grab a handfull of sand THAT basicly what lee's limbs were so i think it goes with out saying everyone in the room knew why

That was the whole reason behind getting her like if i go to the docter and say i have a rash is he going to tell me "wow u have a bad rash" no that would be stupid he going to do hiis job and see if anything else is wrong with my skin

thats not what his arms were like at all dude.

and your rash thing didnt make sense....

[Hiyo]

Yeah, um, gates are not literal suicide, people. It causes damage that would be substantial if it there wasn't medical nin around. I also don't see how using gates would effect his bones, juding from the explaination it would seem like it would mostly only effect the muscles and not break his bones. If using gates meant damage that would disallow you to be a ninja then why would anyone use it?

Gai told Lee never to use them unless he absolutely needed too. Obviously they are going to do damage to his body any time he used them. Remember you have to consider that Lee is only 13 years old... he's not a full grown man.

I don't see why so many people don't think opening chakra gates would affect your bones. Look how much his strength and speed increases... his muscles bulk up so much they tear. Moving that fast and having that much strength is going to do damage to internal organs and your bones when you move around. Shrug.

[KageNaruto]

it might put pressure on bones but it wouldnt just randomly chip them. also why would your organs be hurt? poepl go into space and their organs dont get hurt, and they are moving faster than lee.

his bone fragments and not being a ninja is due to gaaras sabaku sousou

[Pryce]

i was talking about his bones not his whole arm u know that



try to think out side the box for a sec

if u go to a docter for a spesific reason like u got a bad cut is the docter going to fuss about the cut or is he going to see if u have an infection same deal with lee and Tsunade she didnt say shit about his legs because it was unnessesary

[Hiyo]

Okay.. it clearly shows fragments ALONG THE SPINE... how can you agrue that opening the gates (which make him move insanely fast, bulk up his muscles, and put so much internal pressure on him that his veins pop outta his body, AND tear his muscles) wouldn't damage his bones but an attack ON HIS ARM AND LEG... would result in fragments on HIS SPINE. :P

ps: regardless of how stubborn myself and other people are in this discussion.. it's still a good discussion :)

[Hiyo]

i was talking about his bones not his whole arm u know that



try to think out side the box for a sec

if u go to a docter for a spesific reason like u got a bad cut is the docter going to fuss about the cut or is he going to see if u have an infection same deal with lee and Tsunade she didnt say shit about his legs because it was unnessesary

Sure it was unnecessary cause they weren't the major issue. The fractures on his spine were :)

[KageNaruto]

Okay.. it clearly shows fragments ALONG THE SPINE... how can you agrue that opening the gates (which make him move insanely fast, bulk up his muscles, and put so much internal pressure on him that his veins pop outta his body, AND tear his muscles) wouldn't damage his bones but an attack ON HIS ARM AND LEG... would result in fragments on HIS SPINE. :P

ps: regardless of how stubborn myself and other people are in this discussion.. it's still a good discussion :)

it never says its the spine, but it hink it might be near the tail bone. you know your leg and arm are connected to yuor spine, and look at the direction gaaras sand crushed his arms, it could have easily forced some fragments into the spine from where the arm and leg connect to it

[Hiyo]

That's pretty far fetched. Bone fragments don't move along the spine :P

[KageNaruto]

i already told you, it never even states that they are on lees spine rewatch it. besides oyu lee is 13 so his spine shatters and gai is an adult so hes not affected theory is waaaay more fer-fetched

[imported_Greenlitflag]

besides oyu lee is 13 so his spine shatters and gai is an adult so hes not affected theory is waaaay more fer-fetched

I guess Lee needs to drink more milk. :)

[Valleyman]

In episode 50, this is the medical examiner's words:

"He is breathing, but the bones in his entire body have suffered comminuted fractures, and his muscles have been torn up. I believe it will take a lot of time for him to recover.

"That alone would have been fine but... But the damage to his left arm and leg is severe. Too severe.

"It is hard to say this... But his body will no longer allow him to live as a ninja."

He is saying that he could have recovered and went on with being a ninja if his left arm and leg wasn't crushed.


Also, about episode 98, this is what Tsunade says:

"There are numerous bone fragments along the spinal canal. On top of that, they're deeply embedded.

Which indicates that the bone fragments came from somewhere else on the body.

[Hiyo]

In episode 50, this is the medical examiner's words:

"He is breathing, but the bones in his entire body have suffered comminuted fractures, and his muscles have been torn up. I believe it will take a lot of time for him to recover.

"That alone would have been fine but... But the damage to his left arm and leg is severe. Too severe.

"It is hard to say this... But his body will no longer allow him to live as a ninja."

He is saying that he could have recovered and went on with being a ninja if his left arm and leg wasn't crushed.


Also, about episode 98, this is what Tsunade says:

"There are numerous bone fragments along the spinal canal. On top of that, they're deeply embedded.

Which indicates that the bone fragments came from somewhere else on the body.


Finally someone that put some effort into it.
However, was the 50% chance surgery on his leg and arm? or his bones in general? Lee wouldn't be able to be a ninja without the surgery... yet if it was his arm and leg that were the major problem and without that damage he would have been able to continue being a ninja.... why would a surgery that was necessary only for his arm and leg be lift threatening? Doesn't make sense :P

[KageNaruto]

and gates damamging the spinal cord doesent make just as much sense :P

[Crackhead]

Kage it was already explained why the gates hurt the spinal cord.
Yah I think he will probably try to go further than the gates and Lotus. Lee isn't someone smart enough to realize he might kill himself trying to get stronger but brave enough to accept his fate.

[Pryce]

and why would opening the gatets fuck his spine up this time and not while training :P

[imported_Greenlitflag]

Also note that Lee had his arm and leg in a cast for awhile after the match. Had the medical nins have been able to repair the damage to his arm and leg he probably wouldn't be in the cast. So it would seem that the damage that gaara did was the most severe. He was able to use his other limbs well enough to do push ups and punch a training log (lol, I dunno what their called), but still his crushed arm and leg were in a cast.

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

why the hell would opening the gates cause your spinal cord to have fragments in it?it's obvious the only damages he susbstained from the gates was his torn muscles kakashi saw it too.after he was done with the primary lotus he was unable to move as always since he opened the gates which puts alot of strian on your body and his muscles were torn.but after that garra crushed his arm.him having his arm crushed ike that could have easily sent bone fragments along his spinal cord and it's the only reasonable explanation.

[Hiyo]

why the hell would opening the gates cause your spinal cord to have fragments in it?it's obvious the only damages he susbstained from the gates was his torn muscles kakashi saw it too.after he was done with the primary lotus he was unable to move as always since he opened the gates which puts alot of strian on your body and his muscles were torn.but after that garra crushed his arm.him having his arm crushed ike that could have easily sent bone fragments along his spinal cord and it's the only reasonable explanation.

It's already been established through dialog from the episodes that opening the gates caused the fragments along his spine. Bone fragments don't get "sent" anywhere in your body.... that's a silly comment. Opening the gates caused the fragmentation of his spine. He had surgery which was "life or death" to fix that problem. Nothing was ever mention about fixing his arm or leg. For all we know it could have been a piece of cake for Tsunade to fix those up. Or maybe they just took extra time to heal.



As far as training while in the hospital.... training doesn't not equal combat. Just cause he is able to train a little while injury doesn't mean he'll be able to take up combat again and live as a ninja. No one said he'd die from the condition, they just claimed he wouldn't be able to function as a ninja.

Also... in training when he opening the gates he probably didn't try moves. Primary lotus is just a combination of quick hits. He didn't need the gates open to learn how to make a combination.

[Pryce]

no now that u metion it it was probly that suplex he did that made him brake his spine not opeining the gates and of course he trained moves while his gates were open do u think he just stood there hes not that dumb

[Hiyo]

no now that u metion it it was probly that suplex he did that made him brake his spine not opeining the gates and of course he trained moves while his gates were open do u think he just stood there hes not that dumb

oh wait... okay maybe i'm being misinterpreted. I don't mean that the actually PROCESS of opening the gates caused the damage. I mean that having the gates open and fighting under that strain is what I believe caused the damage.

As for training with the gates open... I highly doubt it. He needs one gate open to do secondary lotus I believe. Primary lotus requires all 5 to be open and Gai told him to never use the move unless it was absolutely necessary. All primary lotus is is a fast combination while 5 gates are open... there is really no "training to it", He might have don't some sparing with 4 gates open or maybe even just a single attack with 5 open but I doubt he ran around with 5 open sparring with Gai.

[Valleyman]

Well, about the fragment bones on his spine, when Gaara does Sabak Kyuu, it crushes the bone most likely. It isn't impossible for fragments to come from the arm to goto the spine.

And the thing about it being life threatening, that is a little strange. The only thing I can think of(this is only a theory whcih I got from Tsunade's words, don't jump on me over it), is this:

She(Tsunade) was talking about having to activate all the cells at once, and maybe that was the life threatening part. She said it would be easy to activate them one at a time, but doing them all at once was difficult. And probably in order to fix his arm and leg she had to activate all the cells at once.

[Ichee]

Well in fact lee had already opened one of his gates in filler fight against Raiga

[KageNaruto]

he laready opened a gate against kimimaru as well.

but i still am not one bit convinced by the lotus hurting the spine.
gai says it only rips the muscles.
and heres the pic where tsunade talks about lees' injury.:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/KageNaruto/c030f381.jpg

[CRtwenty]

Yes, and how would bone fragments get sent around the body? Having somebody shatter the bones in your arm and leg would probably do it.

[Hiyo]

Yes, and how would bone fragments get sent around the body? Having somebody shatter the bones in your arm and leg would probably do it.

Having your arm and leg crushed would do just that.... crush your arm and leg. Bone fragments from your leg don't magically travel up your body to your spine. Clearly in Lees fight the arm and leg were just covered and then crushed.. there was nothing that would have led to damage on the spine.

[U-Pon]

Yarg,stop asking why the gates "f***" up his spinal cord!It totally kills his muscels,connected to nerves,connected to brain and spine!

Anyways,if Lee opens the gates ONE more time,something terrible will happen...muahahahahaha!*Just kidding

Gai will take a humungous spazz session if Lee does it again.

[Ricochet]

Saying is Lee opened all the gates he would die is probably like saying if Chouji eats the red pill he'll die. Oh wait, no he didn't....

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

Hiyo your confused lee having his arm and leg crushed ended his carrirer as a ninja which ninja is gonna be succeful with only 1 hand and 1 leg he also was unable to walk by himself he had crouches.him having bone fragments in his spinal cord needed to be removed but if they were romoved wrong he could have died.him having those bone fragments weren't the main cause of him not being able to be a ninja it was having his legs and arms crushed

[CRtwenty]

Lee himself even admits that it was Gaara who screwed him up. Remember the Lee/Gaara Vs. Kimimaro fight? At the end Lee says something like...

Lee: "I'm not bearing a grudge, but I've been through a lot of trouble because of you"
Gaara: "Sorry"

[Ichee]

I don't remember saying sorry...

Haha I remeber him just saying cooly" Oh"

[Hiyo]

Hiyo your confused lee having his arm and leg crushed ended his carrirer as a ninja which ninja is gonna be succeful with only 1 hand and 1 leg he also was unable to walk by himself he had crouches.him having bone fragments in his spinal cord needed to be removed but if they were romoved wrong he could have died.him having those bone fragments weren't the main cause of him not being able to be a ninja it was having his legs and arms crushed

No i'm not confused about anything. I've made a completely valid agrument and supported why it is just reasoning. All your done if given your opinion and stated it's correct and i'm confused :P Did you bother to read anything I wrote so far? Doesn't sound like it. The examiner said cause of his arm and leg he wouldn't be able to continue being a ninja but after the life or death surgery he sure got that arm and leg fixed up pretty damn quick didn't he? Tsunade is pretty great. His arm and leg were a major issue with her there. The fragments (on her examination) were the major problem with him continuing on as a ninja.

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

do u read anything that was written here him having the bone fragments in an important nerve made the surgery so risky.him havinbg his arm and leg crushed ended his carrier as a ninja.and it was about a month and and a half before he got his arm and leg healed and even ater that he wasn't able to walk he had crouches.brush up on your naruto man you suck your ignoring the fact that having your leg and arm crushed which was never fully healed renders you useless as a ninja.how are bone fragments in your spinal cord render you useless as a ninja the bone fragments being removed could have killed him thats all that tsunade is saying but she removed safely and now he's a ninja again

[KageNaruto]

im not even gonna bother, hiyo lets just agree to disagree

[Hiyo]

do u read anything that was written here him having the bone fragments in an important nerve made the surgery so risky.him havinbg his arm and leg crushed ended his carrier as a ninja.and it was about a month and and a half before he got his arm and leg healed and even ater that he wasn't able to walk he had crouches.brush up on your naruto man you suck your ignoring the fact that having your leg and arm crushed which was never fully healed renders you useless as a ninja.how are bone fragments in your spinal cord render you useless as a ninja the bone fragments being removed could have killed him thats all that tsunade is saying but she removed safely and now he's a ninja again

Sure, I read everything people bothered to post. That's the point of having a discussion. Both sides of the agrument have valid points.. I just find the side I choose has been points and makes more sense.

I wish I could read what you just posted but the grammar is so poor that it almost looks like you are supporting what I said.

im not even gonna bother, hiyo lets just agree to disagree

I'll agree to that :)

[CRtwenty]

There really isn't an explanation as to why the bone fragments are there. Just that they're there, and are posing a problem. For all we know, Lee could have a bit of Kimimaro's bloodline, and had bits of his spine just flake off. :p

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

umm CR that was kinda dumb but w/e.nvm hiyo i'm not argreeing with you i'm just done trying to get you to understand that your wrong

[UndrDog]

If there were bone fragments in his spinal column and they impeded on his ability to be a ninja, I really doubt they'd let him walk around town. Especially since we know how much he trains. If his leg was really crushed to that point he wouldn't be walking either. I'unno what was actually going on, and the discription of the surgery wasn't realisitc enough to get much from it. Just stating this 'lil bit of information that has probably already been mentioned... -_-"

Oh, and I'm saying he will open them again. Just like he couldn't give up being a shinobi he won't be able to keep himself from saving someone he loves. And in his line of work, that is bound to happen again.

[KageNaruto]

GUYS HE ALREADY OPENED THEM! HE OPENED THEM AGAINST KIMIMARU, THE FIRST GATE! its kinda obvious hell open them this thred is now basicly based on lee's injuries

[CRtwenty]

Well, he tried to open them against Kimimaro at least. He kind of got smacked upside the head with some bones and stopped.

[KageNaruto]

yes but he still opened it
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[Valleyman]

How come your subs says stuff a little differently than the ones I get(sometimes)?

[KageNaruto]

dattebayou subs you most likely have anbu subs(or something liekt aht anbu a on e or something)

[CRtwenty]

There's more then one group that subs Naruto. He's using the AonE subs, instead of the Dattebayo ones from what I can tell.

[KageNaruto]

but back on point i proved that lee did open the gate

[UndrDog]

Well... Do you think he'll open them again? lol

[Valleyman]

Probably. He can probably walk away from a battle if he only opens 2 of them.

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

lee can open the gates anytime he wants you ppl think the gates are dangerous it is but not that dangerous the only reason lee sustained so much damage was because his arm and legs were crushed if lee was to open the gates again he'll be fine but he won't be standing and he'll need to go to the hospital because of his teared muscles but nothing serious.

[Valleyman]

Well it is true his muscles were ripped and stuff from the gates. That could be fixed with medical jutsus, but he'd prolly have to rest for awhile.

I was saying he could prolly easily walk away from a battle if he only opened 2 of them.

[AK47]

ya he can beat anyone with two gates
strong guy- 5 maybe
he could've beaten that one sound guy easily but the air compresser guy saved him by cushioning the ground
but if rock lee was one on one and use the gates he could kick anyone's ass
his speed can kick anyone's ass also
his 5 gates will kick anyone's ass- gaara should've died even with the gourd of sand protecting him- he got kicked like a million times

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

yea i know and somehow his sand skin was still on that match was bullsh8 and in my eyes lee really won that fight.but lee gets very exhausted when he opens the gates like when he was fighting dosu his muscles were soar and he could hardly move.lee just opwning 1 gate can maybe limp away just because his muscles aren't back to normal.

[KageNaruto]

ya he can beat anyone with two gates
strong guy- 5 maybe
he could've beaten that one sound guy easily but the air compresser guy saved him by cushioning the ground
but if rock lee was one on one and use the gates he could kick anyone's ass
his speed can kick anyone's ass also
his 5 gates will kick anyone's ass- gaara should've died even with the gourd of sand protecting him- he got kicked like a million times

i hope your making fun of noobs because if youre serious, im really disapointed in you

[Ichee]

Lee opened his gates(as I said before) against Raiga.

Also Lee should be completely healed now that bone fragments impending his ability to be a ninja is old now. This happen like 8 months ago in the Naruto world.

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

What are you talking about, Lee didn't open any gate when fighting raiga!

[Ichee]

I remember many times when he opened them gates. Anyway this old. His operation was so long ago so basically he do his 5 gates agian maybe more for his sake

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Imagine if he would open his gates and also be drunk.

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

imo not possible and would make no sense for him to fight drunk while having the gates open when he's drunk he doesn't come traight for the attack he plays around and stuff and his muscles would be hurting him i think or when ever he moves it will and that would cause him to feel enough pain to get him back to himself.and imo if he's drunk how would he know how to open the gates

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Yeah, but still, if possible, and I precise with the ''IF'', that would be awesome.

[X_orion]

That would be pretty cool to c lee open all the gates again... ( srry im the current chaos forum noob )

[Hiyo]

Yeah the only reason Lee is so great when he is drunk is cause it's a natural instinct type of combat... he doesn't really know what he's doing. So he would never be able to concentrate and open the gates anyways probably.

[KageNaruto]

imo not possible and would make no sense for him to fight drunk while having the gates open when he's drunk he doesn't come traight for the attack he plays around and stuff and his muscles would be hurting him i think or when ever he moves it will and that would cause him to feel enough pain to get him back to himself.and imo if he's drunk how would he know how to open the gates

he doesent play around. he acts like a drunk person, crazy and unable tot hink. thats why his attacks are so random and all plainly direct, cause his brain isnt functioning properly. but if he was drunk i dont think he could concentrate to open the gates.

[Sabaku no Kakashi]

I think he will concentrate on his potential for drunken fists and thus has less of a need to open his gates when he faces strong opponents...but I do believe he'll open them again...and survive...although Gai said after the eighth gate is opened death is inevitable...i think its juz because nobody has managd to survive it yet...Lee may be able to find a way around it...its not like losing a heart...or head or anything...and anywayz it will suck if he dies...he's funny and respectable for his loyalty and nvr say die attitude

[gerbster11]

It's guaranteed that he will open up his gates again, probably not all eight but maybe 6 or 7 of them. But, yeah definitely, because Gai will show him any forbidden techniques for Lee to defend his way of the ninja. I think it was being the best ninja with only using taijutsu..Boo yah

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Dude, you gotta stop that boo ya thing, I mean,really.

[Ichee]

-_-

............................. Yeah that Boo ya thing suks a**

[gerbster11]

*ignores previous two posts*

I feel like contributing to the current thread by stating that it would be cool if both Lee and Gai open gates at same time for SUPER DYNAMIC ENTRY COMBO!!!!!!!!! But seriously I wonder if they both open gates at same time if they have combo moves.

By the way,

Boo-ya

[KageNaruto]

well this thread should end.

its obvious hell open gates.

he says "since im just out of surgery i wont be able to open all the gates YET, but i should still be able to open the first" aginst kimimaru.

its obvious hell open them, im voting for lockage since the last posts have been spam-like

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

yea this can get locked now and kagenaruto i see why lee lovers disgust you they disgust me too now

[Ichee]

haha Lee lovers suk

-_-