Sasori Vs. Uchiha Itachi

[MATCHSTICK]

Yo, who do you think will win? I was thinking about the ranks in akatsuki today and i was like crap, i wonder who would win. Itachi is uber strong respectively with his incredible jutsu's and what not, but against sasori's attack i doubt he could copy them. Especailly against the sand's 3rd kazekage (if it weren't for sakura destroying it, that is off course).

So what are your intake folks?

[graff]

is puppetering even considered a jutsu or is it just a more complicated way of using taijutsu.

[MATCHSTICK]

Well really depends on how you think, is the rasengan really a jutsu or extremely good chakra control? (personally, i think it is really good chakra control, so meh, jiraiya should teach sakura it then :wink: ).

But using puppets to me is a form of taijutsu, i mean if gai with num-chuks is considered taijutsu then puppets can be considered weapons as well, but the abilities of certain puppets can be considered as jutsus as well, like the 3rd kazekage's jutsu.

[CRtwenty]

I'd actually have to go with Sasori in this fight... he has enough AOE type attacks that Itachi's Sharingan wouldn't help him that much. Not to mention almost all his techniques rely on his puppets characteristics, which means Itachi couldn't copy them.

[Jofil..kankorou..rocks]

ill probably go with itachi, since he is quite quick. and even without the sharingan, itachi can have the ability to fight head on with sasori even with/wthout da puppets--

but itll be cool to see betrayal in the ranks of akatsuki

[Divinedemon]

im gonna have to go with Itachi. just think if he got one of his doujitsus off (or w/e they're called) he couldc possible get sasori to attack himself with a puppet. in my eye sasori may have some tricks but itachi is alot more crafty andc clever

[MATCHSTICK]

Just for the record, i'm going with sasori. I have a point why, but best not to spoil it for those who have not read 271 yet. Itachi is quick and strong, and a genjutsu type guy but i mean against all the weaponry and iron sand sasori could be even more craftier, and at the end itachi is still human one touch with poison and hes screwed. Where as sasori may take a few hits before going down.

[CRtwenty]

Yea, Itachi has his Genjutsu, and the Sharingan... but how well does Genjutsu work against a puppet? And using the chakra necessary to perform the forbidden Mangekyou techniques would be foolish. If they don't work then Itachi would be severally weakened, and easy to take out.

[Jofil..kankorou..rocks]

yeah i guess u can pinpoint dat out- but we still dont know the full power of itachi- let alone his real stamina and chkara ability- itll be awesoome to c them tho fight

[Vishox]

well the gang got left with these two akatsuki members to face, we assume them to be the weakest members because the team face them first. itachi is definitely stronger i think

[Jofil..kankorou..rocks]

hahah u got a point- but dis will suck if like the teams are so beatn up and are so tired! lol they get theyre butts kicked

[y.o.]

Sasori would win, sharingan would be useless againt puppets and that level of battle I think that Itachi is a close range type to mid range (genjutsu type) againt a long range fighter, so the poison would be the most important aspect of the fight, unless itachi can trap him in a genjutsu which Im pretty sure sosori can avoid the fight is over

[Jofil..kankorou..rocks]

i have to go with itachi again since sasori has somewat shown a level of weakness against saukra dont u guys thnk? and i would have guessed that itachi can be a good taijutsu user newayz.. but as i sed before, it still depends on how their status will be before their fights or if they will ever fight

[Daisumaru]

I think Sasori has the major advantage, because it would seem because of his body being what it is we know he has no weakness to poison based attacks(probably why he beat the third kazekage). Which makes me wonder weither he can be affected by genjutsu or not. If he can't be affected by genjutsu that leaves Itachi with only the black fire tech. and the lower dojutsus of the Uchiha which have some obvious limits.

[Jofil..kankorou..rocks]

they do have limits but so does sasori- he does have his limitation bearing the fact that he is a puppet himself- and besides the other jutsus of the uchiha are pretty powerful- and we still dont know the best of itachi's sinister moves yet

[CRtwenty]

Yea... I have to agree with that. We've only seen Itachi fight seriously once, and all he did then was run away from Jiraiya

[wishboy]

Did you foget that Sharingan has the ability to COUNTER all jutsus ? Unless the puppets were moving incredibly fast that Itachi could not counter it, but they seem jus fine. Sasori is a bada$$ cool character and is also a very powerful ninja for defeating the 3rd KakeKage. But with sharingan, Itachi would see the puppet comming, see the counter, counter/evade, an beat Sasori down. An if Sasori had traps prepared, an genjutsu, or whatever waiting for him, Sharingan would see the counter, Itachi would evade it or counter it, an attack. Thats why Chidori was incomplete until Kakashi got the sharingan. Sharingan enabled Kakshi to be able to run straight at an opponent, see the attack of the opposing ninja, counter or evade, an still be able to attack with Chidori.

[Salomaa]

Its not KakeKage, its Kazekage xD
And His Ameratsu; Goddes Black Fire or whatever, isnt Genjutsu. Its Ninjutsu <.<

[CRtwenty]

The Sharingan isn't THAT good... and it doesn't allow the user to dodge the attack, only to see it coming. If Itachi lacks the physical ability to dodge it, which is quite likely considering how fond Sasori is of AOE style attacks, he won't be able too.

[Jofil..kankorou..rocks]

yes i agree0- sasori isnt the contact fighter kind of guy- that why he has his puppets to meddle with- bsides if itachi has his sharingan focused on with one direction, sasori cud still lurk and prepare his attacks in a 360 degree manner- even if their on teh ground- and sasori doesnt even need to be trapped by the sharingan- he just has to control at least a several amount of puppets to do his dirty work for him

[wishboy]

If u read my post I said that Sharingan would allow him to see the counter, an Itachi would then evade or counter them. 360 degree manner traps an attacks? What makes you think that Itachi is slow enough to be hit by them? You are definately not giving him enough credit.

[CRtwenty]

I'm saying that against a highly skilled mid-range fighter like Sasori, Itachi's close range fighting ability due to his bloodline is limited.

Not to mention, all Sasori has to do is barely knick him, to immoblize him with poison. He doesn't have an antidote like Sakura does.

[Thepimplishone]

1 hit from sasori's poisen and itachi's a gonner...and i doubt genjutsu would be effective on him since he's a puppet and has lost most of his senses.
but i can't even begin to imagine itachi losing to a bunch of puppets; that'll just ruin my image of him. I bet has an arsenal of techniques still unkown to us. So far we've only seen close combat moves and genjutsu and i dun think itachi could have earned his fame and recognition with only that.

[CRtwenty]

Well he probably also has some expanded Katon techniques. But I'd imagine that he's basically just a more powerful version of Sasuke who also is great with Genjutsu.

[shadowmagus]

iono i have to see how chiyo-baa sama(iono i just think taht the old lady is badass so im showing my respect for her thusforth i call her sama.) and sakura beat sasori.. or not beat. w/e. if they beat sasori in a itachi capable way then i guess itachi can beat him. but so far i dont think so. tru sharingan gives him dodge ability and his ridiculous speed does well because sakura and chiyo-baa sama are not exactly the fastest cars on the race track. but itachi doesnt have the experience of chiyo and her puppeteering to avoid the first wave before he could get used to it. unless ameratsu works the way i think it should work. as in wherever he looks he can create that black flame wherever he sees.i think it might even out to be a pretty close match for them but i think sasori wins unless ameretsu works the way i want it to.

[TekIce]

i think Itachi would some problems reading the movements of the puppets because shargian (i think) looks in to the eyes of the enemy and read his next movement. But i doubt, this would work on puppets because they dont have minds of their own. So, he probably would have to look a Sasori to read their movements. and its tough fight the puppet when u are looking at sasori.

[timeforsleeep]

i think Itachi would some problems reading the movements of the puppets because shargian (i think) looks in to the eyes of the enemy and read his next movement. But i doubt, this would work on puppets because they dont have minds of their own. So, he probably would have to look a Sasori to read their movements. and its tough fight the puppet when u are looking at sasori.

I'm pretty sure the sharingan user doesn't look into the eyes of their opponent to follow movements...

[Bartimaeus]

Question: Who is sasori, plz pm if u dont wanna spoiler, but I mean, like, is he Kankuro father or sumthing like that?

[Aburame_Shino]

Kankurous father?.... are you serious? the Yondaime is Gaara's father and he's related to Kankurou, and Temari, this isn't DBZ or something...we've based the facts of parentage...

[Bartimaeus]

dunno, he's a pupeteer

[CRtwenty]

Question: Who is sasori, plz pm if u dont wanna spoiler, but I mean, like, is he Kankuro father or sumthing like that?

Have you not read the manga yet or something?

Sasori is the Grandson of Chiyo, one of the two elders of the Village of Sand. His father (Chiyo's Son) and mother were both killed during a Ninja war in the past. Apparently by Kakashi's Father, The White Fang of Konoha. The loss of his Parent's caused Sasori to go a little loopy, and he used his already powerful puppet jutsu to transform them into human puppets. Which he attempted to use to pretend that they were still alive. Chiyo noticed this but was unable to do anything.

Eventually Sasori grew into the most powerful puppet master of Sand, gaining the title "Sasori of the Red Sands" from his village. He became famous as a creator of powerful puppets, some of which are still used in the Sand today. (All of Kankuro's puppets were created by Sasori) Behind the scenes he increased his study of human puppets, until he became a master of that art. He began to see what he was doing as a sort of art form. Rebuilding the corpses of humans into something much much more. Chiyo too noticed this, but refused to do anything, as she used Human Puppets herself, and had likely taught him how to do it.

Then, Sasori suddenly vanished. Appearing decades later amongst the ranks of Akatsuki. His body, encased in a giant puppet armor.

[hyacinth]

Its not KakeKage, its Kazekage xD
And His Ameratsu; Goddes Black Fire or whatever, isnt Genjutsu. Its Ninjutsu <.<

its amaterasu.. not ameratsu

[y.o.]

I dont understand how people could think that sasori would lose this fight I mean I understand that, 1st off itachi would have to some how avoid all those poison tech's and he's not a med nin so even a scrap would be fatal, 2nd doent have the raw power to get through that 1st puppet armor that sasori had

granted he could have used the jiutsu amarutsa (sorry 4 spellin) to destoy but as sasori proved he's even more than formitable w/o that

As stated earlier sharingan would be pretty useless other than seein the movement and tryin to dodge the movement of the puppets, I think that sasori is a long distance tijitsu fighter, using puppets vs a long distance ginjutsu fighter and I dont think that a puppet (sasori) can be caught in a normal genjitsu like other nin

but then again for the sake of itachi, I like him too and I think he is a clever fighter, we havent seen all his moves so........ but 1 more thing it seems that if itachi was to use to many powerful jitsu's against anyone he becomes weak which leads me more to believe that he would spend all his time settin up 4 one big jiutsu and if it misses he would be done!

[RandomGuy]

I dunno, as a Sharingan user, Id think that Itachi has an insane amount of Jutsu at his disposal. Im pretty sure he hasn't shown everything he can do yet, tho I agree in that his genjutsus and such might be pretty useless.

I think another good question would be Neji vs Sasori. I dunno bout you guys, but with Byakugan and Kaiten, Id think that just about all of Sasori's attacks would be useless.

[huspa]

Sasori(my naruto character favorite) would esally win for many reasons.

1st, the poison would kill itatchi if it hit him, which is likely.
2nd, everybody says sharingan this, sharingan that. It is completely useles against Sasori. people keep saying that Itatchi could read his move ments. well, hate to burst your bubble, bu he can't. the sharingan relies on the oponent's chakara to see where they are going. puppets don't HAVE chakara, and Sasori's chakara is not suffecient enough to read his movements.
3rd, the Red Secret Technique would pretty much kill Itatchi. there is no way for the sharingan to counter it.
4th, because I said so :P .

[DukeAbercrombie]

Sasori(my naruto character favorite) would esally win for many reasons.

1st, the poison would kill itatchi if it hit him, which is likely.
2nd, everybody says sharingan this, sharingan that. It is completely useles against Sasori. people keep saying that Itatchi could read his move ments. well, hate to burst your bubble, bu he can't. the sharingan relies on the oponent's chakara to see where they are going. puppets don't HAVE chakara, and Sasori's chakara is not suffecient enough to read his movements.
3rd, the Red Secret Technique would pretty much kill Itatchi. there is no way for the sharingan to counter it.
4th, because I said so :P .same here! i respect sasori alot after seeing his kage puppet.

not only that, he took over an entire country by defeating its army by himself. itachi could never do that.

never again in the world of naruto will we see a puppetear half that strong

[CRtwenty]

Nah, I bet Kankuro could get half as strong as Sasori. But I doubt he'll ever get as strong as him.

[whoagorgeous]

I dunno, as a Sharingan user, Id think that Itachi has an insane amount of Jutsu at his disposal. Im pretty sure he hasn't shown everything he can do yet, tho I agree in that his genjutsus and such might be pretty useless.

I think another good question would be Neji vs Sasori. I dunno bout you guys, but with Byakugan and Kaiten, Id think that just about all of Sasori's attacks would be useless.

sasori will find that blind spot of neji's and im pretty sure sasori is that kinda guy with that intelligence to find it and use it to his advantage. neji's a close range while sasori is a long/mid range type.

[regina777]

i read the manga and everything- i still dont understand why Sasori lost to Chiyo baa and Sakura-chan
i read chiyos explanation but it seems to me he just wanted to die or lose or just gave up?

anyways- i think sasori with his many puppets has an edge over many a Ninja including Itachi- and apart from all the other reasons given above unless his weakspot is hit he can regenerate himself. and for a ninja of his level fighting against itachi of such high level i doubt he would allow his weakspot to be an easy target as he did against chiyo- and sakura-chan

[y.o.]

I nwasnt questioning Itachis amount of jutsu's rather his chakra copacity not to mention we saw that Sasori can literally switch puppet bodies and has 100's to chose from

For Itachi to win he would have to destoy that part of human fleah that is Sasori, I also have to update a lil b/c those are sasors original eyes so if Itachi can get him out of that puppet armor he might catch him in a genjutsu

[DukeAbercrombie]

sasori doesnt even have real eyes. sakura punched his puppet head out of anger, and he said, stop because he doesnt feel pain in his puppetbody.

[y.o.]

look at the manga again, when sasori transfered to another puppet the 1 not nailed to the wall his eyes and that weird piece of flesh or original body were gone therfore there real

[DukeAbercrombie]

i wonder if it would hurt if sakura poked him in his eyes instead lol

[CRtwenty]

Probably not. Since they're just puppet pieces too.

[EliteMind]

Hm...I'd like to make a remark, about GenJutsu; GenJutsu works by targeting one's senses and using the chakra circulating inside your body to cause you to experience things... So the Mangekyou Sharingan, Itachi's untimate technique would still work, since Sasori has to have chakra flowing inside himself inorder to control the puppets.

[DukeAbercrombie]

that would mean, itachi would know exactly where sasori would be at all times and would be able to attack him directly

i still think sasori is the strongest character in the whole series so far

[CRtwenty]

Nah, I think that Kimimaro was the strongest person we've seen so far...

Kimimaro vs. Sasori, now that'd be an interesting fight. Since Kimimaro could simply block Sasori's poison needles with his bone armor.

[EliteMind]

That would be interesting...But isn't Kimimaro dead? Then again...Sasori is dead too, I'd still go with Itachi in a fight though.

[y.o.]

I really agree w/ the statement that kimmimaru is 1 of the strongest fighter that we have seen in this anime

Sasori eyes were not puppet pieces

[Omaki_Roku]

I dunno, as a Sharingan user, Id think that Itachi has an insane amount of Jutsu at his disposal. Im pretty sure he hasn't shown everything he can do yet, tho I agree in that his genjutsus and such might be pretty useless.

I think another good question would be Neji vs Sasori. I dunno bout you guys, but with Byakugan and Kaiten, Id think that just about all of Sasori's attacks would be useless.

sasori will find that blind spot of neji's and im pretty sure sasori is that kinda guy with that intelligence to find it and use it to his advantage. neji's a close range while sasori is a long/mid range type.


im sorry but i think neji would typically waste this guy, The kaiten would make all of sasori's attacks useless seeing as they are all physical attacks, and also noted that, Neji is no longer consederd to be just a close combat fighter as we have just seen when he hit kisame from long distance with that palm strike, The puppets may not have strings, but they use strings to be controlled, neji will take advantage of this situation much like he did with the spiders web and so on. Not to mention the Bakyugen is basically x ray vision and will find that little Weak spot sassori has, and once he does...sassori is toast.

going against neji is like Siccors going against rock, its bound to lose.

[EliteMind]

Hm... That is a good point, but, I'd like to say that Sasori has a mechanical body, and the "Gentle Fist" type of TaiJutsu used by Neji would not work, since all the "veins" in the body that carriers chakra are replaced with metal (or an even harder solid)

[DukeAbercrombie]

no way, Kimimaro was strong because he was a walking brawler tank. he is a midrange close up fighter.

a high level genjitsu user like kakashi or itachi would pwn Kimimaro in 2 seconds.

so i wouldnt say Kimimaro was the strongest just because of that

[Omaki_Roku]

but, seeing as nejis strong in chakra controll he may be able to dissrupt the flow and controll sassori has, by injecting his own flo into the joints.

[EliteMind]

Well... I don't think Neji would get that close, and Sasori's got that nasty poison.... So you never know... I'd still go with Sasori in that fight, but I'd say it'd be close.

[CRtwenty]

Neji vs. Sasori would be interesting. Using the Byukagon he'd be able to instantly see that all of Sasori's chakra was coming from that seal on his chest. So he'd know where to target from the beginning of the fight.

However, it'd be hard to tell if he'd actually be able to reach Sasori before one of his puppets or poison attacks hit him.

[narutomania]

I thought the thread was about Itach and Sasori but it seems like it is more a Neji or Sasori thread..
Anyway I agree that Neji would beat Sasori. He is able to see the chakra strings of the puppet user. So he can easily predict the coming move.He could also cut them through so that sasori wont be able to use his puppets. Neji would know what sasoris body is made from and where is chakra comes out and so on...
The 3.Kazekage and the fact that sasori self is a puppet would may change the situation for Sasori but NEJI ROCKS !!!

[Omaki_Roku]

no way, Kimimaro was strong because he was a walking brawler tank. he is a midrange close up fighter.

a high level genjitsu user like kakashi or itachi would pwn Kimimaro in 2 seconds.

so i wouldnt say Kimimaro was the strongest just because of that


you know i wonder just how kimimaru Defended himself against tayuya's genjitsu?

I mean he must of had some type of skill or such to defend against that flute, So i wouldnt put my best bet on genjitsu defeating the likes of him.


but who knows

[DukeAbercrombie]

why would his teammate use it against him without the intent of killing him or get killed themselves

[CRtwenty]

As far as we saw, Tayuya didn't get a chance to use the flute against him.

[regina777]

i have forgotten- which chapter was that ?

[B166ER]

I thought the thread was about Itach and Sasori but it seems like it is more a Neji or Sasori thread..
Anyway I agree that Neji would beat Sasori. He is able to see the chakra strings of the puppet user. So he can easily predict the coming move.He could also cut them through so that sasori wont be able to use his puppets. Neji would know what sasoris body is made from and where is chakra comes out and so on...
The 3.Kazekage and the fact that sasori self is a puppet would may change the situation for Sasori but NEJI ROCKS !!!
well, yes he has all these advantages on sasori but he definitly lack of destructive power against non living things. He would never get thru hiruko. :wink:
about itachi vs sasori I think sasori would win since as a puppeteer he has the excellent chakra control requiered to break the effect of genjutsu.

[y.o.]

unless u know sasori's weakness it is almost impossible to beat that guy, basically you have to deal w/ all of those puppet armors just to find that he is no more than a cylinder of flesh who can jump from puppet to puppet, and thats if you can avoid the massive amounts poison that he throws at you

[narutomania]

I thought the thread was about Itach and Sasori but it seems like it is more a Neji or Sasori thread..
Anyway I agree that Neji would beat Sasori. He is able to see the chakra strings of the puppet user. So he can easily predict the coming move.He could also cut them through so that sasori wont be able to use his puppets. Neji would know what sasoris body is made from and where is chakra comes out and so on...
The 3.Kazekage and the fact that sasori self is a puppet would may change the situation for Sasori but NEJI ROCKS !!!
well, yes he has all these advantages on sasori but he definitly lack of destructive power against non living things. He would never get thru hiruko. :wink:
about itachi vs sasori I think sasori would win since as a puppeteer he has the excellent chakra control requiered to break the effect of genjutsu.
OK i will not insist on Neji but you should be sure that neji WOULD win. Just because his Byakugan. He can see chakra and the puppets are all binded with the puppeteer with chakra strings. Neji cut through the ckakra webs from this Tarantula-ninja. He should also be able to cut the chakra strings of the puppeteer. Even not; him having an eye seeing these strings means that he would be able to know the coming move of the puppet. Ok nejis tenketsu burning hits an his damage to his opponents internal organs may would be useless against Sasori but he has the greater advantage. And if he was able to send his chakra through the web to finish this tarantula guy he will also be able to send chakra through sasoris chakra strings. Sesari is a very strong opponent real but nejis byakugan would define this thing FOR NEJI. NEJI IS MY FAVOURITE CHARAKTER !!! U CAN SAY WHAT U WANT NEJI CANT LOSE !!! AT LEAST NOT IN MY WORLD !!!
NEJI ROCKS :!: :!: :!:

"A will not insist on neji..." :? :? :?

also to say: Itachis Genjitsu is not a usual genjitsu, it is MANGEKYOU and MS is unbreakable. i am not sure which from this two would win. but i know someone who could win them both.... Yes its right NEJIIIIIIIIIIII :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[Omaki_Roku]

why would his teammate use it against him without the intent of killing him or get killed themselves

well its just as teh same way Rock lee opend up all the gates on garaa

your not suppossed to kill your opponent but he went all out to get the job done revealing all his techniques,


and the sound is a much more ruthless orgainization than konoha
id think it wouldnt of even matterd, and why would orochimaru want somebody that weak to be beaten by tayuya as his heir?

i think he can over power genjitsu

Kimimaru was plain and simpily a beast

[DukeAbercrombie]

what i mean is,
if tayuya ever tried it against kimi in the first place, she would be dead already. sound being ruthless and all.

[y.o.]

bask to the topic at hand SASORI VS ITACHI

[MATCHSTICK]

Wow havent been on this place in ages, i thought my thread died ages ago. Anywho, im just going to back pedal a bit.

If Sakura could see the attacks coming due to the movement of Sasori's hand then the Sharingan will definately see it, for those that say they can't because of Sasori being a lifeless object, well i say the sharingan has shown the user how to dodge shurikens in the past (i think) so why not sasori. Also, from what we see of Kakashi's M. Sharingan, all he needs to do is look at someone and they'll explode, I know to some extent Itachi's technique will be slightly different but i believe it'll be same kind of principle. I mean how do you defeat a guy who can blow you up just by looking at you?

I love Sasori, probably my favourate character so far, but i guess most of the odds are against him, itachi will see the chakra coming out from his little heart box thing, and just chase it, all the puppets will be dealt with by probably a massive katon, or many kage bunshins which all use katon. The only way i see it is that, he uses the 3rd kazekage and its iron sand, then drench it all in poison, and leave like one or two grain on the floor and when they are not looking quickly stick it up to their toe, thats what you get for not wearing socks. But then if he could've done this he should have used it against Sakura and Chiyo, it might have been in his reach but underestimated them.

So, in my eye Sasori still wins just because he is cooler.

[regina777]

add this- sasori needs just a little prick of a poisoned needle from one of his many puppets on itachi and the fight is over

and he is very cool :wink:

[y.o.]

I agree w/ many things said about sasori, I thought that kimi was unstopable and my favorite charater but this guy was even better kishimoto has a very good way of making suprisinly strong, interesting characters

[EliteMind]

Yes... I agree, but Kimi and Sasori are both dead :evil: , so much for strong characters...

But anyways, Itachi would definetly have the advantage here, not only because he has the Sharingan but because he is in the same organization that Sasori is in and the probably would know each other's moves. But in my opinion, the Sharingan (And Itachi has MASTERED it) will be able to doudge most attacks Sasori makes.

Sasori counts on overwhelming his targets with puppets or by using the 3rd Kazakage's "chakra weapons" with the same strategy. But with the Amaterasu, Itachi can own all the puppets at once and while Sasori is occupied, get near Sasori to kill him, or follow up with one of the Katon Justus.

[Omaki_Roku]

one thing though, we have yet to see what the full capablilities that itachi posesses, i wouldnt count him out yet....seeing as kakashi has developed some new strange power wit his sharingan, i wouldnt be surprised if itachi has developed more useful skills.

and besides that, itachi is a sharingan user, he probably has mass amounts of Jutsus under his belt to help his cause

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

itachi would win because
1.he would use that black fire ninjutsu to break his first puppet which he is inside of.
2.he has his sharigan to be able to dodge the attack,and he is smarter than skura whowas able to read his ifnger movements so that also helps him avoid piosiong and the poison kills you in 3 days so what if he gets hit he'll fight till he can't fight anymore.
3.he has katon=fire jutsu's that can help him attack sasori and burn up his wooden puppets.
4.i don't think sasori can be caught in his genjustsu's so he would have to use ninjustu's and tajitsu's i think itachi tajitsu is good enough to send sasori crasshing into walls.
5.Itachi wins because i said so and it's obvious who's stronger.well if your smart you'll understand what mean.

[DukeAbercrombie]

...well if your smart you'll understand what mean.

yeah okay

[regina777]

please- be careful with certain speeches. it may easily be misconstrued!!!! let us let that pass as a joke- right?

[narutomania]

5.Itachi wins because i said so and it's obvious who's stronger.well if your smart you'll understand what mean.
Being just smart would not be enough to understand what this sentence tries to mean. Man, I dont know what the others got from this but I -as the legendary GENIOUS frankfurt shinobi- couldnt understand a sh__.

[y.o.]

1 important thing you seem to forget those attacks have to land, cause itachi cant keep using those jutsus, and poison is a hell of a weapon it might take 3 days to kill u w/ the amount that got konkaro (sorry about spellin) but it compleatly incompasitated him in the process

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

itachi won't get hit that much he's smart he was ANBU captain remember and i'm sure he won't be using that balck fire thecnique more than once he has kage bushin explosion thenique and other stuff plus katon thecniques which don't take alot of chakra to use and have to land about twice or so but itachi takes this battle.and those people who got offended when i say you'll get this if your smart must be dumb then cause there was nothing wrong with what i said there was no need to make so many comments.

[y.o.]

how do u fig Itachi cant get hit, I dought that anyone could fight that guy and not get at least nicked, and even that will be fatal, I say at best there would be a draw b/n them

[Volrath]

Itachi would probbly win... his sharingan will kick sasori butt.... he could easily dodge anything sasori trows at him...
Remember the Naruto vs Sasuke fight... naruto couldn't even hit sasuke (until he went kyuubi)... now imagin that power with more training..... sasori would probaly put up a good fight... but loose in the end....

[y.o.]

I ust cant see Itachi beating that guy his preperation for fights was uncanny, and unless you have the monsterous streanth of godaime or sakura I dont see you even gettin past his 1st puppet!!

[narutomania]

or amereatsu !! which is able to burn EVERYthing. A strong enough katon should also burn the WOODEN puppets.

[y.o.]

true, some how in the mist of all this, I some how 4got that puppets were made out of wood!! So I guess he would be a natural enemy of sasori I now feel like the playin field has been leveled

[EliteMind]

The puppets were not made of wood, remember the first one that they fought? I believe it was made from some strong metallic alloy.... But it was definetly not wood.

[DukeAbercrombie]

The puppets were not made of wood, remember the first one that they fought? I believe it was made from some strong metallic alloy.... But it was definetly not wood.oh ya, the first one was supposed to be indestructable until the 3rd kazekage and sakura busted it up

[y.o.]

sure didnt look indestuctable to me and I dont think all of them were made of the same type alloy, if they were they deffinetly werent "indestrutable" either

[knivez 83]

Sasori....itachi would tire fast imo. Although itachi may be stronger than Sasori since he's already been defeated. whatever.

[narutomania]

The puppets were not made of wood, remember the first one that they fought? I believe it was made from some strong metallic alloy.... But it was definetly not wood.

A metallic arrow ??? Ok let them all have this.
Even these dont make them unbreakable. A strong katon should able to melt any kind of alloy. Everything has its melt point. We saw how huge and strong sasukes katons were against naruto. I even have naruto now in front of my eyes saying "...a m a z i n g...". Itachis has sure tronger katons then these.
Another way to make the puppets more resistant is doing something with chakra. Chakra is not something that itachi can burn with katons sure but using for every puppets chakra-alloys is something too big for sasoris ckakra reservoir.
After all we didnt saw itachis full abilities. My belive is that Itachi has many other irons in the fire. Do you all think itachi couldnt break the puppets with punches? i am sure that he can do this even. Ok his are may not as strong as sakuras cause of her perfect chakra control but they must be strong enough to break a puppet.
And dont forget the amereatsu !! + The possibility being able to do the same doujitsu kakashis !!

[y.o.]

amereatsu, OK I think that is a clear indication that itachi could win, now think about this, if they were fighting and sasori had all of his puppets b4 sakura destroyed them all

1st off he would not have been able to break his 1st puppet w/ a punch he would have used amereatsu to get throught that and we have seen how tired he gets after using his "super" jutsus not saying that he could only do 1 but I say he can do 3 max so thats 1

2nd Sasori would have not burned in the puppet he would have abondoned or just jumped out when it caught fire

3rd Kazekage puppet and this is were Sasori shinned the most, controlling a kage lvl nin w/ that great jutsu that doesnt use his own chakra, therfore conserving his own and that justsu is almost impossible to evade not saying that itachi cant do it but hard none the less

4th Itachi would have to pull out a couple of those kantons to finally hit that puppet and might have to use amereatsu to hit him

side note: even if itachi could use kakashis jutsu It would be as useless as his genjutsu b/c he would be dodging and wouldnt have the time to pin point the space nessary to destroy sasori not to mention he would have to hit that part of him that was actually flesh!!

5th and last point I see itachi using amereatsu twice and other jutsus which he wouldnt have much time left, 1 more possible super jutsu, while sasori has the 100 puppet thing and 2 other super jutsus we didnt get to see, I guess it would be up in tha air at that pioint and anything could happen but thats how the fight would go in my eyes, basically itachi playing defence the whole time and eventually gettin hit by something poisonous!

[narutomania]

amereatsu, OK I think that is a clear indication that itachi could win, now think about this, if they were fighting and sasori had all of his puppets b4 sakura destroyed them all

1st off he would not have been able to break his 1st puppet w/ a punch he would have used amereatsu to get throught that and we have seen how tired he gets after using his "super" jutsus not saying that he could only do 1 but I say he can do 3 max so thats 1

2nd Sasori would have not burned in the puppet he would have abondoned or just jumped out when it caught fire

3rd Kazekage puppet and this is were Sasori shinned the most, controlling a kage lvl nin w/ that great jutsu that doesnt use his own chakra, therfore conserving his own and that justsu is almost impossible to evade not saying that itachi cant do it but hard none the less

4th Itachi would have to pull out a couple of those kantons to finally hit that puppet and might have to use amereatsu to hit him

side note: even if itachi could use kakashis jutsu It would be as useless as his genjutsu b/c he would be dodging and wouldnt have the time to pin point the space nessary to destroy sasori not to mention he would have to hit that part of him that was actually flesh!!

5th and last point I see itachi using amereatsu twice and other jutsus which he wouldnt have much time left, 1 more possible super jutsu, while sasori has the 100 puppet thing and 2 other super jutsus we didnt get to see, I guess it would be up in tha air at that pioint and anything could happen but thats how the fight would go in my eyes, basically itachi playing defence the whole time and eventually gettin hit by something poisonous!

1- Why ?? How u know that he cant break it ? Its right that he gets really tired. But i said it only thats his best one and there is nothing sasoris that it cant burn through.

2- sure thing. I didnt said the opposite...

3- This thread is about itachi sasori fight. thats why if say i think itachi is stronger then sasori i believe also that he is stronger then 3.kazekage. For his jitsus i would say that sasori showed already his ultimate jitsu and itachi is not so weak not to handle it. He is fast enough to dodge them. How he could beat the kazekage i dont know. :cry: i am only sure that the kages shown jitsus is not enough to knock him down.

4- I dont know. Itachi is smart enough to consider when its the best to use amereatsu. And its sure that the puppet of kage would be done after amereatsu but itachi fully not.
as i said before we didnt saw itachis fully abilities. Sasoris have we seen. The only thign we can -better said i can- do is saying and trying to reason that sasoris jitsus are not enough for itachi.
We dont know what other jitsus itachi has. Honestly if he hasnt got some ``destructive`` ones it would be very hard to handle against sasoris kage-puppet and 100 puppets attack.
For the new sharingan: If he can use kage bunshins to bother sasori while he is trying to focus on sasoris critical part and shoot it out !! He can even uses the kagebunshins against the other puppets.
And one more point: Even knowing sasori is a puppet that dont mean he wont be affected from genjitsus. He still has a soul binded to the puppet. The eyes are the openings of the soul to the real world u know. If he can see through the puppets eyes then he can also be catched in agenjitsu...
And one more point: Having the sharingan simply means to see everycoming attack. remember sasuke after getting the 3.dot. Naruto wasnt able to hit him cause sasuke was seeing through his moves. Itachi has mastered the MS long time ago which means he must be learned and mastered much of its abilities. He sure is a better sharingan user then sasuke. The puppet attacks sasoris are easily too slow to hit him.

[y.o.]

why would u say there to slow for him, and I think that people are given way to much credit to the sharingan, yes it has the ability to predict were attacks are gonna land and Im also aware that Itachi would be evading than Sakura but you can still be overwelmed and simply have nowere to go!! even thought we seen alot of sasoris puppets (jutsu's) I think that he still had some in reserve that were strong (he had 2 more scrolls on his back), a puppeteers greatest strenth is his 1 preperation and 2 puppets and poison!! The only reason he was defeated was b/c sakura made a antidote to his poison, and Itachi wouldnt do that, I say at beast Itachi would destroy the puppet that sasori was in or even sasori himself but he would get hit and be poisoned and killed too!

[narutomania]

i agree that sasoris poisen is dangerous for itcahi. I agree even that itachi could be killed with it during/after the fight.
Even though i believe that itachi would win !!

[y.o.]

I still think that Sasori will either win or the best Itachi would do is kill sasori but die himself, I cant wait to see what Itachi can really do though Im getting really anxious, I cant wait to see him fight Kakashi, even thought kakashi should be able to move for at least a week

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

yea me too

[Omaki_Roku]

why does everybody think that Itachi would be too slow to dodge the poision.

If everybody believes in rock lees speed, and seeing as Sauske copied it, wouldnt you think Itachi's speed and power would be greater than them both?

I would like to think so its only obvious.

Itachi has a lot of tools to get this job done

[narutomania]

%61 believe that Itachi would win !! I am one of them. Bu your argument about itachis speed is a bit weak. Sasuke didnt copy the speed of rock lee. He cant !! Speed is not a jitsu. Its hard training. He just copied the move.
Something that proves itachis speed is the naruto-sasuke fight. Remember how sasukes speed increases after getting the 3.dot of Sharingan. or the kakashi itachi fight (episode ~100). We were not even able to see him moving. It was like a flash. Here and there.

[CRtwenty]

why does everybody think that Itachi would be too slow to dodge the poision.

If everybody believes in rock lees speed, and seeing as Sauske copied it, wouldnt you think Itachi's speed and power would be greater than them both?

I would like to think so its only obvious.

Itachi has a lot of tools to get this job done

True, but Sasori has some very large AOE attacks. And he is most likely immune to genjutsu as well, which means Itachi isn't able to use many of his strongest techniques.

[narutomania]

I dont believe he is immune to genjitsu. Sasori has sealed his soul in that puppet. If he is able to see through the eyes of the puppet that means his soul has an opening to the real world like others eyes. Genjitsus main effect is not physical, its mental so to the opponents soul. If Sasoris has a soul and his puppet-eyes are the openings then he should also be affected. The only way to defend against against doujitsu (eye ) genjitsus are evading an eye-contact. Sasori has eyes, the fact that they are wooden or anything else mustnt change the situation i think...

[CRtwenty]

Genjutsu allows a person to override their opponents nervous system using their own chakra, it has nothing to do with the soul. Since Sasori's body is so totally different then a normal person's, he's probably immune to Genjutsu.

[y.o.]

those were both very good arguments, but as far as omaki ranmaro goes nobody thinks Itachi is slow at all but sasori uses overwelming amounts that will eventually hit his enemy even if he has to tire them out 1st he is the genius of the puppet army after all

[B166ER]

Genjutsu allows a person to override their opponents nervous system using their own chakra, it has nothing to do with the soul. Since Sasori's body is so totally different then a normal person's, he's probably immune to Genjutsu.
plus as a puppeteer he has an excellent chakra control hwich could help him get out of genjutsu, if, somehow, he was affected by it :wink:

[narutomania]

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Genjutsu - Genjutsu techniques are mostly illusionary techniques. These techniques hallucinate the opponent and make them think that they see visions that in are not there. Genjutsu type techniques are great to use when you are trying to escape or confuse the opposition. While your opponent is confused; you can attack without them knowing where you are. The downside to Genjutsu techniques is that they require chakra as well as a perfectly performed hand seal.
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- Type: Bloodline Limit Jutsu
- Used by: Uchiha Itachi
- Jutsu name: Illusionary Underworld Moon (Tsukiyomi)

A special technique that can only be used by the Uchiha clan who posses the Mange Sharingan. The technique creates an illusion which can reflect on the past or just create an illusion where Itachi does to the target whatever he wants (ex. stick swords into the enemy's body over and over again). This technique is used to attack the opponents mind and destroy his/her spirit. The events which go on in the Tsukiyomi are translated into 3 days (72 hours), while in reality only 3 seconds pass. 72 hours seems to be Itachi's limit with the illusion. This attack is another strain causer on the Itachi and if used more then once, it can tire him out.
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Type: Bloodline Limit Jutsu
- Used by: Hatake Kakashi, Uchiha Sasuke, Uchiha Itachi, Uchiha Obito
- Jutsu name: Sharingan (Sharingan)

... It can also suggest movements to the hypnotized brain, and 'see through' any illusionary technique....
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So what i understand from this explanations is that the doujitsu genjitsus Itachis are hypnotizing the oppenent with illusionary. Like david copperfiled :wink: jk
I found nowhere an explanation like yours (nerve system control with chakra)

[DukeAbercrombie]

...........

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

come on if sakura was able to land so many hits and dodge most of sasori's attacks itachi can do 4times better.let this be know itachi can only perform the M.shrigan thecniques three times only.which means he has 3 of those black fire thecniques can break almost anything.and he probaly doesn't have to break sasori fist puppet it with it he could use that dragon fire thecnique or w/e

[CRtwenty]

I found nowhere an explanation like yours (nerve system control with chakra)

Read the fight where Naruto fought Itachi (during the rescue Gaara arc) they explain how Genjutsu works.

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

i know genjutsu wouldn't work on him but itachi has more stronger moves to his disposal

[Omaki_Roku]

hmm, your right about sasoris range, But the thing that gives itachi the edge is because his Sharingan abillity to copy so many diffrent techniques ....I mean just imagine if somebody were fighting kakashi and he pulled out that gigantic water whale (from the movie) out of nowhere....Simply stating that i think itachi has techniques we havent seen so he should not be underestimated for his power is limitless with his bood line limit

[y.o.]

thats an elemental jutsu meaning there has to be water around, even thought it seemed like a strong justsu I dont think it was, it has a low probability to hit a good nin, Itaci would stick to mange, and fire jutsus, maybe a few other here and there but not that many

[Omaki_Roku]

yeah hed probably wouldnt use that move, but i was just using that as a point, to say we dont know what hes capable of or what type of skills hes yet to show

[y.o.]

yeah I relieze that all Im sayin is that he would just use his strongest justsu's against him anyaway, it wouldnt even be a long fight b/n those 2 it would be 5 mins the longest

[imported_Greenlitflag]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/GreenlitflagD/SasoriVs.pngVShttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/GreenlitflagD/ItachiVs2.png

1st question (I asked awhile ago), would tsukuyomi work on a sasori considering that his body (eyes included) aren't real? Does tsukuyomi just effect the persons chakra like most other genjutsu?

[Valleyman]

I think it's still work, though he prolly wouldn't feel as much pain as normal people would.

As for the topic I'm going with Itachi.

[KageNaruto]

i dont think it would work on sasori....

p.s. itachi looks really cool in that pic, more than in the anime

i dunno i think im just gonna go with sasori....

[imported_Greenlitflag]

My vote is leaning towards sasori. I'd like to see how Itachi would deal with his 100 puppet jutsu. Also, sasori died by choice so it's kinda hard to gauge his longevity.

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

i go with sasori too, cause itachi didn't know him as much as chiyo did, it would be hard for him!

[superkhanh0]

i say sasori , sakura only able to beat him cuz of the old lady and she kno him well and his weakneses , she always use pupets to counter his pupets

[imported_Greenlitflag]

i go with sasori too, cause itachi didn't know him as much as chiyo did, it would be hard for him!

That's true. Even as well as Chiyo knew sasori, he kept pulling a new weapon/jutsu every minute that she wasn't ready for or had never seen.

[Hellchild915]

This is a hard choice because I dont know how sharingan would affect sasori but I would still have to go itachi but I think it would be a great fight

[superkhanh0]

itachi said it himself that using MS wud wear him down real quick he need sumone to stay by him and protect him while he activate it , so he prolly wud do sumthin else other than MS. i duno if using illusion wud effect pupets

[AK47]

sasori would win
cuz he is a master puppeteer and itachi is just a uchiha

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

lol, that was the key argument!

[CRtwenty]

Sasori imo. Since he's a puppet he's likely immune to most of Itachi's Genjutsu. Furthermore he had some major AOE attacks which help nullify the taijutsu reading properties of the sharingan, and he uses poison... one hit is all he needs to take out Itachi for good.

[KageNaruto]

yeah in my mind itachi is weak to sasori, plus really the only reason they won is becuse because they had a funky thing to throw at sasori (what the deal was with that i still dont know)

but how doe sgengitsu affect a puppet? i dont think it can, deinitly sasori

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

yes, itachi just can't do nothing vs him, offensively, genjutsu wouldn't work on sasori, and defensively, he don't know his attack like chiyo and couldn't stop the metal sand or something like that and the 100 puppets attack.

[Valleyman]

You guys make it sound like Itachi only has MS to use against people offensively. I doubt that's the case. I'm sure he's got more than just MS he can use.

[AK47]

yea i'm sure itachi as some tricks up his sleeves

[KageNaruto]

well itachi's main strong points are gengitsu.

he can still do other taacks, but sasori would still beat him, mainly cause hes really strong too, and not at a disadvantage like itachi

[Valleyman]

well itachi's main strong points are gengitsu.

he can still do other taacks, but sasori would still beat him, mainly cause hes really strong too, and not at a disadvantage like itachi

He doesn't have to use MS, to create genjutsus....

[KageNaruto]

but his gengitsu is sight oriented. sasori is a puppet. it wouldnt work


its obvious he doesent use MS for all gengitsu, he wouldnt be able to fight after casting 3 of them if thats the case

[superkhanh0]

dont 4get the black fire he can use them to burn everythin down

[AK47]

and also sasori is almost invincible to itachi cuz he is a puppet and only chiyo knew the weak point of sasori cuz chiyo was a puppeteer too
but itachi will probably not know about it and will lose
also sasori has more fighting experience and is older than itachi (i think)

[KageNaruto]

dont 4get the black fire he can use them to burn everythin down

we dont know how big that attack is. i always thought it was regular fire sized, like sauske's normal sized gokakyu....

i dunno, we still have to see the black fire in all its glory

[y.o.]

You guys make it sound like Itachi only has MS to use against people offensively. I doubt that's the case. I'm sure he's got more than just MS he can use.


Exsactly, Itachi isnt only genjutsu, Im sure his nin and taijutsu are outstanding as well although taijutsu wouldnt do anything against sasori, gut a couple of those great fire balls might!!

I just had to say that in Itachis defense, but I voted sasori cause avoiding all those poison attacks is nearly impossible, and a simple nik can be fatal, at best they both die! Itachi will die 3 days later though

[Corcoran]

yes, itachi just can't do nothing vs him, offensively, genjutsu wouldn't work on sasori, and defensively, he don't know his attack like chiyo and couldn't stop the metal sand or something like that and the 100 puppets attack.

Itachi has the Sharingan, pal. He can see the chakra strings, and predict all attacks.

[imported_Greenlitflag]

yes, itachi just can't do nothing vs him, offensively, genjutsu wouldn't work on sasori, and defensively, he don't know his attack like chiyo and couldn't stop the metal sand or something like that and the 100 puppets attack.

Itachi has the Sharingan, pal. He can see the chakra strings, and predict all attacks.

I find it hard for him to be able to predict 400 chakra strings at once (4 strings per puppet) while all of them are attacking... but maybe he could, I dunno (Itachi IS the master of sharingan I guess.) Although, the 100 puppet jutsu is just one of MANY we saw him use (almost of all of the fatal, espeacially without a medical nin to assist.)
lol, sasori is like the new kimimaru. He's introduced and killed in one arc, was pretty insane when it came to power, and also wasn't/couldn't put 100% into the fight (sasori basicly let himself get killed)

[Chidongan]

ok just want you all to know what i think. Genjutsu affects your mind, meaning your brain. it doesnt matter that sasori does not have a body, if he can think he has a mind, therefore he has a brain. genjutsu makes the victim experience some kind of pain through the use of the 5 senses which are controlled through your brain. so imo i think itachi would own him with MS.

[imported_Greenlitflag]

ok just want you all to know what i think. Genjutsu affects your mind, meaning your brain. it doesnt matter that sasori does not have a body, if he can think he has a mind, therefore he has a brain. genjutsu makes the victim experience some kind of pain through the use of the 5 senses which are controlled through your brain. so imo i think itachi would own him with MS.

MS requires you to look into their eyes (at least the one you're probably thinking of.) His eyes are like, made of wood.

[Chidongan]

ok just want you all to know what i think. Genjutsu affects your mind, meaning your brain. it doesnt matter that sasori does not have a body, if he can think he has a mind, therefore he has a brain. genjutsu makes the victim experience some kind of pain through the use of the 5 senses which are controlled through your brain. so imo i think itachi would own him with MS.

MS requires you to look into their eyes (at least the one you're probably thinking of.) His eyes are like, made of wood.

technically you dont have to 'look' into their eyes. Itachi used MS on naruto through is finger.

[AK47]

that wasn't MS that was a genjutsu
kakashi used it on sakura in the bells ep

[imported_Greenlitflag]

I believe that was a regular genjutsu (I think naruto would have passed out for awhile had he actually been put under MS... everyone else was put out of comission for atleast a day)

[Chidongan]

that wasn't MS that was a genjutsu
kakashi used it on sakura in the bells ep

o. hahaa. sorry. :oops:

[Archalion]

If Sakura was able to predict Sasori's attacks by looking at his fingers then Itachi would be able to read his movements.

I dont think his Genjutsu would work on Sasori, but his Ninjutsu is probably enough to take him down.

In the end I think that Itachi's black fire would probably destory sasori. It broke through the Frog Stomach trap that no one had escaped from before. Its probably strong enough to incinerate sasori.

[AK47]

yea but don't you think sasori can get away from the black fire
people usually evade attacks when they see a strong attack coming at them..
unless the black fire is unevadable(is this a word?)
and anyways we haven't seen itachi's strongest attack but sasori has some amazing attacks

[Archalion]

Naw, Sasori never showed any superior evasion movements, on the other hand Itachis does have incredible speed and an incredible mind similar to Shikamaru's or Kakashi's.

Itachi could probably do a move similar to what Sakura did, but instead of punching him he would burn him alive with that ultimate black fire.

We have seen Sasori use his ultimate techniques while he have not even scratched Itachi's full power.

[KageNaruto]

If Sakura was able to predict Sasori's attacks by looking at his fingers then Itachi would be able to read his movements.

I dont think his Genjutsu would work on Sasori, but his Ninjutsu is probably enough to take him down.

In the end I think that Itachi's black fire would probably destory sasori. It broke through the Frog Stomach trap that no one had escaped from before. Its probably strong enough to incinerate sasori.

sakura was slightly predicting sasori's movements. just slightly. chiyo was also controlling her at the time. not to mention she was dodging only one puppet, id like to see her try to predict 1000

[RandomGuy]

I hate dealing with people who know huge amounts of techniques because they might know some technique that could be crucial to beating someone but we just dont know it. Im sure Itachi knows hella techniques but he just hasn't shown them, just like how Kakashi knows 1000 jutsu.

[AK47]

u mean you dealed with people like these before? lol
but i dont think itachi doesn't copy many techniques
maybe the strong ones

[kjrav]

haha I just changed the vote to itachi's favore.

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Damn you, guys, it is so obvious that sasori would win that shit!

[kjrav]

How so ?(I dont feel like reading the pages).

[Valleyman]

Damn you, guys, it is so obvious that sasori would win that shit!

How is it OBVIOUS?

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

And i don't feel like rewritting my arguments, just read them at the 1st page.

[AK47]

yea sakura was half dead and chiyo was lost all her chakra
and itachi doesn't have any antidote for the poison so
sasori is the winner

[kjrav]

Itachi would just Burn all the puppets w/t his fire jutsus.

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

I don't think it would be that easy, plus that metal sand attack, with the kazekage puppet, would be able to block the fire in my opinion.

[AK47]

Itachi would just Burn all the puppets w/t his fire jutsus.
k i have to say this again
sasori is a puppet himself and there is something called "evade"

[imported_Greenlitflag]

Sasori seems to have an almost orochimaru level of invinciblity/quick recovery. Sakura punched him to peices and he just reconstructed himself (although it's unkown whether this was actually sasori or if he was using a different puppet in his place, because we see him "fake" his death later an then reapear with a hood on...) Also keep in mind that we only saw sasori use one of the three scrolls on his back (we atleast know that one of them contained 100 puppets.) And why is it understandable for Itachi to somehow dodge 100 puppets wielding posion that basicly infects you with one scrape, but sasori isn't smart enough to move out the way of Itachi's katon jutsu?

[kjrav]

Right Sasori IS near oro stregnth like you said but oro said Itachi is stronger than him do the math. Sasori<oro<Itachi

[AK47]

sometimes math doesn't apply
naruto is weaker than kakashi but he can kill kakashi right?

[KageNaruto]

since when ws sasori weaker than oro? and acording to some other person they said this: itachi<oro<jiraiya

but its actually itachi<oro<jiraiya<kisame and itachi

rofl

[imported_Greenlitflag]

Right Sasori IS near oro stregnth like you said but oro said Itachi is stronger than him do the math. Sasori<oro<Itachi

These are ninjas, not equations. Using that logic, naruto should have been able to beat kidoumaru since naruto beat neji.

[AK47]

no jiraiya=itachi and kisame
cuz itachi said that if we kill him we will die also

[Glorious Ular]

Ya theres only certain times when you can use Mange, because it either misses or you dont have enough chakra.

[kjrav]

since when ws sasori weaker than oro? and acording to some other person they said this: itachi<oro<jiraiya

but its actually itachi<oro<jiraiya<kisame and itachi

rofl

Since when can oro beat Jiraiya though.

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

euh Kage, something don't work in what you said tough, Oro said himself that itachi was stronger than him.

[AK47]

since when ws sasori weaker than oro? and acording to some other person they said this: itachi<oro<jiraiya

but its actually itachi<oro<jiraiya<kisame and itachi

rofl

Since when can oro beat Jiraiya though.
he said jiraiya can beat oro
please reread the post

[kjrav]

your right I read the little<> symbols wrong. but since when can oro beat Itachi?

[AK47]

your right I read the little<> symbols wrong. but since when can oro beat Itachi?
eh it's most likely
i think that oro can beat itachi but i think oro is understimating his own power
and oro is way older than itachi and knows lots of jutsus
plus we've seen oro's power and it's very skilled
and i think itachi can't beat a hokage and orochimaru did
so orochimaru is tronger

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Maybe he is stronger, but i don't think oro underestimate himself, if there is 1 caracter in that show that doesn't underestimate himself, it has to be oro!

[kjrav]

yeah and oro only one cause the 3rd was way old oro even said it himself.

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

yeah, he even said that if the 3rd would have had 10 years less only, he would have been defeated and the 3rd would have won.

[AK47]

yeah and oro only one cause the 3rd was way old oro even said it himself.
can you rewrite your post
i dont understand what you just said sry i'm not trying to be faggish

[Sei uchiha]

probably the solution is on the figthing syle of itachi, jirayja an orochimaru

jiraija can beat itachi because he figts summoning frogs, so he-s allways protected by them and hes away from the attacs of each one

Orochimaru can beat jiraija because he is able to move extremely fast and hide very well *like when he figthted against naruto kiuubi. He gets close to jiraija and there he is far stronger.

Itachi can beat orochimaru because he has very good control in close and far distances, and a much better view than jiraija | sharingan |, so he can know were Oro is in every moment.

[Hiyo]

I don't think it's a matter of Itachi being able to defeat Orochimaru. I think the point is that Orochimaru isn't able to fight Itachi and guarantee himself the victory so that bothers him because he doesn't want to die.
I think he is more confident against Jiraiya because Jiraiya lacks strong genjitsu's so Orochimaru has a better chance. Also I think deep down Orochimaru thinks Jiraiya still sees him as his old friend/comrade which gives him a bit of a benefit in a fight since Jiraiya might slack off a little from time to time. I think Jiraiya is likely stronger then both of them.

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Yes me too, Jiraiya is the strongest that we have seen so far in my opinion, itachi, oro and tsunade are all little weaker than him, but the difference isn't big.

[KageNaruto]

your right I read the little<> symbols wrong. but since when can oro beat Itachi?

omg dont you do math? 6<8

it measn 6 is less than 8.

alligator eats the bigger/mor powerfl thing.

dont you know how ta use these symbols?

[AK47]

your right I read the little<> symbols wrong. but since when can oro beat Itachi?

omg dont you do math? 6<8

it measn 6 is less than 8.

alligator eats the bigger/mor powerfl thing.

dont you know how ta use these symbols?
hey hey hey
in some countries some people don't even learn math so don't say that stuff
but.... i am a genius in math!!!!

[Chidongan]

your right I read the little<> symbols wrong. but since when can oro beat Itachi?

omg dont you do math? 6<8

it measn 6 is less than 8.

alligator eats the bigger/mor powerfl thing.

dont you know how ta use these symbols?
hey hey hey
in some countries some people don't even learn math so don't say that stuff
but.... i am a genius in math!!!!

way to be modest. lol.

ontopic: itachi owns sasori.

but that does not mean he will win the fight.

[y.o.]

how do you fig that, give one explanation, or for that matter a shread of evidence to support you argument!!

[Valleyman]

Give a shred of evidence that Sasori will own Itachi y.o.

In an arguement like this we don't know FOR SURE who would win. We;ve never even seen Itachi and Sasori fight. In fact we haven't seen Sasori fight but once.

[AK47]

Give a shred of evidence that Sasori will own Itachi y.o.

In an arguement like this we don't know FOR SURE who would win. We;ve never even seen Itachi and Sasori fight. In fact we haven't seen Sasori fight but once.
yea but we've seen most of his skill and he is strong FOR SURE
it's a possibility he might win

[Valleyman]

Give a shred of evidence that Sasori will own Itachi y.o.

In an arguement like this we don't know FOR SURE who would win. We;ve never even seen Itachi and Sasori fight. In fact we haven't seen Sasori fight but once.
yea but we've seen most of his skill and he is strong FOR SURE
it's a possibility he might win

I know it is. It's a possibility that Itachi might win too. And Itachi is strong FOR SURE too.

I was saying that it's stupid to demand EVIDENCE when we haven't even seen them fight, and there isn't any for either side of the arguement.

[AK47]

Give a shred of evidence that Sasori will own Itachi y.o.

In an arguement like this we don't know FOR SURE who would win. We;ve never even seen Itachi and Sasori fight. In fact we haven't seen Sasori fight but once.
yea but we've seen most of his skill and he is strong FOR SURE
it's a possibility he might win

I know it is. It's a possibility that Itachi might win too. And Itachi is strong FOR SURE too.

I was saying that it's stupid to demand EVIDENCE when we haven't even seen them fight, and there isn't any for either side of the arguement.
true dat
i think we should just let people say who might win
there is not much evidence to support our answers
even though we've seen sasori's full strength
we haven't seen itachi's
but sasori's strength is probably one of the top five strongest ninjas of the story so far i think and so is itachi
but i don't know where to rank them

[y.o.]

Give a shred of evidence that Sasori will own Itachi y.o.

In an arguement like this we don't know FOR SURE who would win. We;ve never even seen Itachi and Sasori fight. In fact we haven't seen Sasori fight but once.

If you need that, go back a few pages, it might even be one page and you will have all the evidence you need, form myself and plenty others, Ive already disscused a almmost identical topic and said what I had to say and dont really feel like writing all ova again!

[Ichee]

OK.... This how I see it.

1) Jaraiya
2)Itachi
3)oro
4)Kisame
5)Sasori

Itachi will most likely win this fight because people in the akatsuki mainly respects and fear him...

Orochimaru a very powerful S-ranked ninja left Akatsuki because of him...

They didn't say he left cause Sasori or anybody else was stronger than him but that Itachi is stronger than him..

Orochimaru is concieted a little bit but is not overconfindent or underestimate himself as alot of people say...

For one thing he believe his ambitions will come true...

Anyway Oro recently in the manga was planning on assasinating Sasori himself which shows that this is a clue that Itachi is stronger than him..

Itachi seems to be so underestimated around here in these forums...

Nobody notices but he just doesn't try when it comes to fighting as was displayed when he was fighting Kakashi and Kurenai..

Itachi is super quick and can do Jutsus at lightning speeds that Kakashi(remember he has sharingan) could barely read...

Sasori I don't think hes dead because he didn't as was said release his other scrolls..

Anyway Sasori is a master puppeteer and is called master by Diedara..

He can contoll over a thousand puppets and can switch bodies with any of his puppets and also regenarate his limbs as long as his core is not damaged..

Sasori is powerful with abilty of controlling over a thousand puppets and killing the sand sandaime Kazekage to take over his unique abilty is he not to be taken lightly..

Itachi versys Sasori is still critcal..

Itachi has a higher chance of winning but it can all change if a slip up occurs or something big happens..

Itachi the reason why he will win is because he knows when to fight and when not to...

Meaning that he has a great sense and understanding of the situation he getting himself into..

This shows great strategic skills at a caliber comparable to Kakashi or Shikamaru...

-_-(sigh)

Anyway Itachi Im pretty sure has other techniques other than the famous Mangekyou Sharingan...

Well this is not a accurate guess because we still did not see the potential of eithier because Sasori still had two more scrolls and Itachi never really got serious...

but my feelings goes to Itachi because he is feared even by the most dangerous nin Orochimaru....

[RandomGuy]

Omg Ichee, finally someone who agrees with me. All I ever hear about Itachi here is "Well I doubt Mangekyou would work" or "He doesn't have to look at Itachi's eyes" or whatever. Im sure Itachi has MUCH more than just Mangekyou. Zabuza thought that Kakashi was all Sharingan and died for it, so why are you guys making the same mistake with Itachi? :P

Also, Oro is afraid of Itachi. As far as I know, there is no evidence that relates to Oro vs Itachi except Oro's words, and Oro says Itachi is stronger. I trust Oro.

[KageNaruto]

were not making the same mistake. his strong point and his fighting style orients with sight gengitsu.

so hes at a disadvantage, he porbablly still has a lot up his sleeve, but with a disadvantage aginst other katsuki ememners its very hard to win

[y.o.]

The only people who knows the strong point of the other members are the partners, kisame and Itachi, Diedra and Sasori. For the most part Im sure that if the teammates fight they would know everything about them

but if sasori was to fight itachi they wouldnt know each others best moves other than thier tech, like everyone knows Itachi has a high lvl doujutsu, and sasori uses puppets and poison, Kisame has samihada that devours chakra etc.

But they probly dont know what each other is capable of unless thier teammates, its the same as saying sasori only had that armored puppet he was in, which we know would have possibly been the biggest mistake one could have made!

[RandomGuy]

True, I agree Itachi seems to favor Genjutsu a great deal, probably for sadistic pleasure of messing with his enemies heads. Still, that doesn't mean hes not incredible in the other fields. His Taijutsus pretty good, he was on par with Kakashi while Naruto was caught in Genjutsu. His Ninjutsu is really damn good, especially because of his speed with them.

I think Itachi is incredible all around, but just likes using Genjutsu since its so much more subtle. I mean, hes always having to restrain Kisame, he looks bored or at least calm all the time. It makes sense that he would like to sit there and let his enemy suffer in his mind.

[y.o.]

I like his fightin style, if I could defeat someone by looking at them why would I even risk injury?? And Itachi was still a guiness and very good at everything b4 he got mange

[KageNaruto]

thats also the thing. itachi uses some tijutsu mixed in with gengitsu.

best example is when he was fghting kakashia nd tried to cast a gengitsu but it was a kage bunshin. his style is too probbaly get close with taijutsu use gengitsu or some ninjutsu if the possibility comes up.

sasori fights from medium-long range, closer to medium.

he also controls puppers. now if he got his hella mount of army of puppets out, itachi cant get close. also it would be impossible for itachi to predict the movements because there would be too many chakra strings.

itachi is gonna loose

[imported_Greenlitflag]

thats also the thing. itachi uses some tijutsu mixed in with gengitsu.

best example is when he was fghting kakashia nd tried to cast a gengitsu but it was a kage bunshin. his style is too probbaly get close with taijutsu use gengitsu or some ninjutsu if the possibility comes up.

sasori fights from medium-long range, closer to medium.

he also controls puppers. now if he got his hella mount of army of puppets out, itachi cant get close. also it would be impossible for itachi to predict the movements because there would be too many chakra strings.

itachi is gonna loose

I also think that if someone got too close to sasori he would most likely have some sort of spring launch spike that would pop out of somewhere (he's got like 100 weapons and that's just HIS body, lol)

[y.o.]

I dont think anyone can really avoid all those poison attacks not to mention his sandime puppet, which just extremely powerful!

[RandomGuy]

I still proud to be the only to vote a tie.

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Nasty, i can't believe how many itachi fan there is on the site, itachi's technique wouldn't work much vs sasori and he knows nothin about him while you don't have to know alot about itachi, sasori would win this one.

[Valleyman]

Give a shred of evidence that Sasori will own Itachi y.o.

In an arguement like this we don't know FOR SURE who would win. We;ve never even seen Itachi and Sasori fight. In fact we haven't seen Sasori fight but once.

If you need that, go back a few pages, it might even be one page and you will have all the evidence you need, form myself and plenty others, Ive already disscused a almmost identical topic and said what I had to say and dont really feel like writing all ova again!

That isn't evidence as far as I'm concerned. I think in order for EVIDENCE we would have to see them actually fight.

As ar as I'm concerned yours is speculation.

[AK47]

Give a shred of evidence that Sasori will own Itachi y.o.

In an arguement like this we don't know FOR SURE who would win. We;ve never even seen Itachi and Sasori fight. In fact we haven't seen Sasori fight but once.

If you need that, go back a few pages, it might even be one page and you will have all the evidence you need, form myself and plenty others, Ive already disscused a almmost identical topic and said what I had to say and dont really feel like writing all ova again!

That isn't evidence as far as I'm concerned. I think in order for EVIDENCE we would have to see them actually fight.

As ar as I'm concerned yours is speculation.
i agree that is just speculation

[RandomGuy]

I dont think anyone can really avoid all those poison attacks not to mention his sandime puppet, which just extremely powerful!
Neji could avoid all his poison attacks

[imported_Greenlitflag]

I dont think anyone can really avoid all those poison attacks not to mention his sandime puppet, which just extremely powerful!
Neji could avoid all his poison attacks

Assuming one of 100 puppets don't hit his blind spot, sure.

[AK47]

I dont think anyone can really avoid all those poison attacks not to mention his sandime puppet, which just extremely powerful!
Neji could avoid all his poison attacks

Assuming one of 100 puppets don't hit his blind spot, sure.
or that iron sand attack
that is bound to get his blind spot^^

[RandomGuy]

That doesn't even matter. You guys forget that Kaiten covers his blind spot. His blind spot is only a miniscule point where he cant see, its not like Kaiten cant block there. In fact, Kidoumaru said himself that Kaiten is especially good for covering the blind spot.

Before you guys get me wrong, of course Sasori would destroy Neji.

[AK47]

yes you are right
i think neji would beat sasori up a little himself

[imported_Greenlitflag]

That doesn't even matter. You guys forget that Kaiten covers his blind spot. His blind spot is only a miniscule point where he cant see, its not like Kaiten cant block there. In fact, Kidoumaru said himself that Kaiten is especially good for covering the blind spot.

Before you guys get me wrong, of course Sasori would destroy Neji.

I think the iron sand would pierce kaiten, but I dunno.

[Ichee]

I'm getting bored with anyone from the Akatsuki or anyone period versus Itachi...

Do someone else like Kisame...

Anyway we need to get back on topic or else FLAME TIME!!!!!!!!!

-_-

[superkhanh0]

or bann time :D

[Ichee]

YO ban my nuts out your mouth....

Get back on topic

[RandomGuy]

YEAH ITS THE JUGGANAUT BITCH

[KageNaruto]

does sasori have a wooden weewee?

it has been buggin me for a while

[AK47]

he probably doesn't have to go pee
i think yamato has a wooden wang going on right now

[RandomGuy]

Im worried about Yamato then cuz Viagra says you should go see your physician if you got a woody for longer than 4 hours or somethin.

[Ichee]

does sasori have a wooden weewee?

it has been buggin me for a while

:shock:

Wow, you should had kept that to yourself....

I have to say Kage.... You must never ever.. listen to me
...Never ever post something like that again...

That was so gay I laughed and then looked at your identity on this forum differently...

Is this the same guy writing about how sexy Anko looks???

Anyway I tried to not flame and control myself to stay polite( I guess) and say that...

The rest of you is just plain gay... -_-

[KageNaruto]

ichee youre wierd, i dont get you.

wtf is so bad about questioning if a guy has a wooden weewee?

[y.o.]

does sasori have a wooden weewee?

it has been buggin me for a while

:shock:

Wow, you should had kept that to yourself....

I have to say Kage.... You must never ever.. listen to me
...Never ever post something like that again...

That was so gay I laughed and then looked at your identity on this forum differently...

Is this the same guy writing about how sexy Anko looks???

Anyway I tried to not flame and control myself to stay polite( I guess) and say that...

The rest of you is just plain gay... -_-


Yes that was a gay comment I looked at that post and thought I misread it! Why would you be worried about another mans cock, period?? wooden or not

What next, you gonna wonder if his wooden asshole can possibly give you splinters, just in case anything were to happen??

[KageNaruto]

i dont know if you guys are immature or just plain dumb :?

[imported_Greenlitflag]

i dont know if you guys are immature or just plain dumb :?

You're calling people immature when you asked if sasori had a wooden "weewee"?

[AK47]

uh yea immaturity nice kage

[KageNaruto]

i dont know if you guys are immature or just plain dumb :?

You're calling people immature when you asked if sasori had a wooden "weewee"?

its called joking around :roll:

[imported_Greenlitflag]

i dont know if you guys are immature or just plain dumb :?

You're calling people immature when you asked if sasori had a wooden "weewee"?

its called joking around :roll:

You'll have to excuse me, most humor/sarcasm is lost online.

[imported_partlink1]

okay on topic

i'd say itachi

unless the wooden puppets are immune to fire

[AK47]

yea they are jk
the black fire would just burn on sasori but sasori wouldn't die, he would just be a burning puppet and that's the ultimate puppet

[imported_Greenlitflag]

yea they are jk
the black fire would just burn on sasori but sasori wouldn't die, he would just be a burning puppet and that's the ultimate puppet

True. There's nothing more powerful than a burning ninja puppet.

[Ichee]

i dont know if you guys are immature or just plain dumb :?

You're calling people immature when you asked if sasori had a wooden "weewee"?

He also called me weird :lol:

That was great!!

It was so damn funny I started crying.....

Anyway he can't say asking if the guy has a wooden dick is sarcasm :lol:

Yo I know who you are....

Your the Sai on these forums aren't you...

He might ask me something gay..lol

[y.o.]

Yeah I thought that was really gay on his part!

[KageNaruto]

most dads that are marrid actually feel bored and go to gay strip clubs and do other guys, isnt that a fun lil fact?^^ :P

if you guys are so uptight about things like that, there really is something wrong with you

[y.o.]

this is becoming a gay thread!

[Ichee]

most dads that are marrid actually feel bored and go to gay strip clubs and do other guys, isnt that a fun lil fact?^^ :P

if you guys are so uptight about things like that, there really is something wrong with you

Your dad lied to you to cover up his guilt..lol

You must look up to him....(on Your Knees)

Anyway lets get back on topic and leave this gay shit out of the picture...

Itachi wins!!!!!!!!!

[Jinx]

If i was a beting man wich i am not cause i am poor i would put my money on itachi.

[y.o.]

If Itachi used that black flame it would surley kill sasori, but if Itachi was even pricked by anything he would be poisoned, I go w/ sasori, but at best he would die too!