Learn Japanese by Mousie

[Mousie]

Lesson one: Pronounciation and Hiragana Part I.
The last one got obliterated by H-Chan, hopefully this one stays ^_^.

There are three types of letter structures in the Japanese writing system: Hiragana, which is the lettering system by default. Katakana, which is usually used for names or writing English-Language wording to help Japanese people speak English. Kanji, which is Chinese characters. Kanji is the most difficult and I only know like....three Kanji words so I won't teach you guys those :P.

Hiranga
あ - a (ah sound as in awesome)
い - i (ee sound as in see)
う - u (oo sound as in ooze)
え - e (eh sound as in yes)
お - o (oh sound as in whole)

Once you learn these basic sounds everything else is easy to pronounce and say.

K
か - Ka
き - Ki
く - Ku
け - Ke
こ - Ko

S
さ - Sa
し - Shi
す - Su
せ - Se
そ - So

T
た - Ta
ち - Chi
つ - Tsu
て - Te
と - To

N
な - Na
に - Ni
ぬ - Nu
ね - Ne
の - No

H
は - Ha
ひ - Hi
ふ - Hu (The H lettering here can also be an F Hu/Fu)
へ - He
ほ - Ho

M
ま - Ma
み - Mi
む - Mu
め - Me
も - Mo

R
ら - Ra
り - Ri
る - Ru
れ - Re
ろ - Ro

Y
や - Ya
ゆ - Yu
よ - Yo

W
わ - Wa
を - Wo

ん - N

Note: I will explain everything else after I get all the lettering completed

To be continued...Lesson one: Pronounciation and Hiragana Part II.

[kjrav]

Wow I've always wanted to learn Jappenese.

[Hellchild915]

If you want to learn basic japanese go google a game called Slime Forest it teaches you basic japanese

[retsam]

If you want to learn basic japanese go google a game called Slime Forest it teaches you basic japanese

... Hellchild try it sometime, before you give advice :<


Hu (The H lettering here can also be an F Hu/Fu)

it's just Fu, as in Mt. Fuji

Hiragana is sort of like a photenic alphabet, some childrens books are written in purely kana (Hiranaga and Kitanana); but it's it is usually used for words that may have come from chinese language.
(example: konichiwa [hello] if one would deside to write in kana form would be こにちわ)

--why is this important to know? Because the later form of kanas (Kitanana) is used for non-chinese decent words, such as Amerikajin [America]. You would not use Hiranaga characters, but another set called Kitanana characters to write it.

... I would probably be better at explaining learning japanese than Mousie :P

[AK47]

can you post katakana
i need to learn that for next year

[Canthinkofaname]

isnt konichiwa good afternoon?

[retsam]

let me do a copy and paste---


Katakana
A I U E O

ア イ ウ エ オ
a i u e o

K カ キ ク ケ コ
ka ki ku ke ko

S サ シ ス セ ソ
sa shi / si su se so

T タ チ ツ テ ト
ta chi / ti tsu / tu te to

N ナ ニ ヌ ネ ノ
na ni nu ne no

H ハ ヒ フ ヘ ホ
ha hi fu / hu he ho

M マ ミ ム メ モ
ma mi mu me mo

Y ヤ ユ ヨ
ya yu yo

R ラ リ ル レ ロ
ra ri ru re ro

W ワ ヰ ヱ ヲ
wa wi we wo

N ン


for simple learning: http://japan-studies.com/language/

is pretty good

[KageNaruto]

my freind already gave me a book on learning japanese its really good too. but good luck mousie with teaching them the whole lingo

[retsam]

KageNaruto, is you friend japanese? To really be good at the language you need to speak and write it to those who really understand japanese.

:P

[AK47]

or maybe it's a book where it has good steps in order to learn japanese
you don't need a good japanese speaker to help you
sometimes people can learn by themselves

[V.VELDANEN]

Is it possible a pronunciation has more than one meaning?

[retsam]

you don't need a good japanese speaker to help you
sometimes people can learn by themselves

Well if you want to be looked at strange, and then end up saying wrong things... Then don't have someone help you with your speech, else you definintly need help.


Is it possible a pronunciation has more than one meaning?

If you mean can a word, have more than one meaning? Yes, which is why having someone to practice speaking is very important.
Examples:
HAshi (箸) = chopsticks; haSHI　(橋) = bridge.
SEImei (生命) = life; seiMEI (声明) = statement.
KAmi (神) = god; kaMI (紙) = paper.
MOmo (股) = thigh; moMO (桃) = peach.
KAu (飼う) = to raise; kaU (買う) = to buy.
KAshi (歌詞) = lyrics; kaSHI (貸し) = loan.
NAru (成る) = to become; naRU (鳴る) = to ring/call.
Ima (今) = now/present; iMA (居間) = living room.
SAke (鮭) = salmon; saKE (酒) = sake/alcohol.
The capitalized syllables are high pitched syllables.

[AK47]

wow maybe u should categorize or something
not just put random vocabulary

[Mousie]

I took Japanese for three years. (Japanese III self-study) Its not hard for me to explain. By time I was on my third year of learning I had to teach basics to the Japanese I students.

I made this thread to help people learn BASIC Japanese. Meaning, people here are not ready to learn Kanji yet. -_-' mendokuse. I've made one before and people learned from it just fine. (It got deleted during the H-Chan era)

I think I'll make a Korean one too At least no one will think my Korean is crap -_-.

[tsunade ^_^]

Me agrees! Wot a nice of you to do!

[shinoshinobi]

At last! A japanese tutorial! i've been looking forward for these....

[tsunade ^_^]

We had another "lecturer" but he left i think! This is great of mousie! Coz Thanx to that other dude I understand a bit of Japanese and can read sum 2! ANd now I'll be able to learn more! Study, Life is Study, Study, Study, Study, Study, Study, Study !

Hiehie ^______________^

[retsam]

wow maybe u should categorize or something
not just put random vocabulary


...those were just examples of words.

[KageNaruto]

lol restam i have a japanese feind at school, and she fairly good at it. but the friend thst gave me the book isnt jap. and you can learn things on your own, just if you wanna be really good at it ueah yuoll definitly havta talk with people who fluently know japanese

[retsam]

yeah... but for example, maybe by listen CDs + books, you might be ok. But i haven't read any book (out of like 3 i own) that correctly or even tell you how to do the R sound (which sounds like the L sound combined with a short R... sorta)

[Hellchild915]

did this thread die?

[KageNaruto]

hellchild why are you posting such worthless spam? this was never even a thread mousie was just gonna post up how ta learn jap

[AK47]

hmm dog is inu
cat is neko
i don't have jap characters so
bird is tori
snake is hebi
what is usagi?

[Hellchild915]

hellchild why are you posting such worthless spam? this was never even a thread mousie was just gonna post up how ta learn jap

Sorry that was retsam he was at my house, i was letting him use my comp and he posted that he thinks he knows everything about japan

Ak I though you were a subber shouldnt you have jap characters

[daikatsu]

usagi is a bunny..

in asking a name..

onamea wa nan desu ka..?

o genki desu ka..? means are you ok..?


namida means cry..

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Wait, Hellchild, your b*tch, Retsam, is your friend in real life, what was he doing with you at home, don't tell me you are cheating on daikatsu!

[Hellchild915]

Wait, Hellchild, your b*tch, Retsam, is your friend in real life, what was he doing with you at home, don't tell me you are cheating on daikatsu!

Yes he is my friend and he was doing something on photoshop and was downloading new manga and he is actually thinking of going to japan in some months and if I get some more money I may go with him which would be cool

[KageNaruto]

Wait, Hellchild, your b*tch, Retsam, is your friend in real life, what was he doing with you at home, don't tell me you are cheating on daikatsu!

only you and Ak47 are the gay ones dude, dont worry bout hellchild

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Dfinitely cool, you won't spoil and reveal us the story when you'll come back. And you'll tell me about all the asian chicks!

[Hellchild915]

we all posted to fast because I dont think DMRL thinks its cool what KageNaruto wrote

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Yeah we did posted to fast cause I was talking about your post. Eh Kage, I love you too.

[KageNaruto]

lol i was just joking hope you didnt take it serisouly, i know youre only gay when youre online and when AK47 is nearby

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Yeah, you are surely right about that one cause I had a lil somethin goin on with a lady of mine 2d but can't continue on a general forum, anyway, I've read all your lessons Mousie, and I will definitely try to catch some word and the new naruto.(Yes, I haven't seen it yet, waitings for the traduced one.)

[Mousie]

usagi is a bunny..

in asking a name..

onamea wa nan desu ka..?

o genki desu ka..? means are you ok..?


namida means cry..

When asking for someones name the 'o' doesnt really need to be there. its namae wa...etc etc.

[KageNaruto]

by the way mousie when you write in japanese are there spaces between the words? i dont think so.... anyway im not gonna bother learning to write in jap till i learn to talk in it

[retsam]

Yes he is my friend and he was doing something on photoshop and was downloading new manga and he is actually thinking of going to japan in some months and if I get some more money I may go with him which would be cool


... I don't know everything, but I started learning 2 weeks and I pick things up super fast... (Such I learn a new coding language and go to a little over average on programming in that language)

+I am not thinking, I will go... I want to look there before I go spend a damn semester in a high school over there (next spring)

[Mousie]

by the way mousie when you write in japanese are there spaces between the words? i dont think so.... anyway im not gonna bother learning to write in jap till i learn to talk in it

actually thats not much of a law. lol. you can put spaces but dont have to. Btw...most people learn romaji first anyway ^__^

[Hime_sama]

mousie sensei!!!!
i know dai ski (forget the spelling) means i like you
how do you say i love you?

[Mousie]

ai = love.

aishiteru no = I love you ^_~

daisuki** btw :P

[retsam]

hey... Not as a challenge or anything.. but can you translate my sig?
-- it's a semi confusing context. But i think if you have had at least two years of learning you should be able to do it..

[Hime_sama]

ai = love.

aishiteru no = I love you ^_~

daisuki** btw :P

arigato sensei!

[Nova]

this is great Mousie, I hope your still doing this. I really need to learn japanese for so many reasons. I want to study there and hopefully get stationed there when I'm in the navy. But I can only dream...

[Mousie]

Three years actually. But I didn't learn a lot on Kanji -_-. It was mostly speaking, getting around, writing full sentences. Basically, I know Japanese...I just dont know full on Kanji. I'd have to live/learn it in Japan for a couple years. But....

~pulls out her Japanese book and Dictionary~

I for nothing more now then a love of innosence a love that will change the world that kind of first love by these is the feeling that brought this love to life?

[Sakura!]

ai = love.

aishiteru no = I love you ^_~

daisuki** btw :P

Just a thinking but can't you just say aishiteru without the no, since "no" is the possesive particle and nothing is really after it.

[Mousie]

Sure you can. Thought depending on the situation...if might sound like you have something more to say. The 'no' is like...kind of a way to give it ending. But no, you dont have to use 'no' everytime ^__^

[E_Juva_Zio_Umm]

well learning japanese is cool and all but i cant learn anything till i learn my own language so arigato mr.robato

[Sakura!]

Sure you can. Thought depending on the situation...if might sound like you have something more to say. The 'no' is like...kind of a way to give it ending. But no, you dont have to use 'no' everytime ^__^

Hehe ^.^ i thought so lol, I got kinda confused there

[kjrav]

How do you say Fire in Japenese?

[Mousie]

fire
hi - flame, burning
kaji - burning of a building etc
netsui - ardor; on fire

[kjrav]

okay thanks!

[KageNaruto]

how do you say eternal downpour? (yes strange.... but i wanna know anyway)

[Mousie]

eternal - eien
downpour as in what? rain?

[Chidongan]

hey guess what mousie?!?! im taking Japanese 1 in college right now! yay for me. so far i got down the hiragana, and i learned how to count to around 9999. it takes me some time though. i still have to think about it.

[Hime_sama]

ne, sensei, what does fumoffu from full methal panic fumoffu mean??

i'd like to know, since my sis named my dog fumoffu!

[animeking]

ne, sensei, what does fumoffu from full methal panic fumoffu mean??

i'd like to know, since my sis named my dog fumoffu!

err i thougth fumoffu was just something the bear says and i think your sister only named it that to sound cute >.< (than again i could be wrong about it just being a funny sound effects the bear says)

[Mousie]

I have no idea what it means. It its not in any of my dictionaries. So it's probably just a saying.

[Otome]

I have no idea what it means. It its not in any of my dictionaries. So it's probably just a saying.

gonnichiwa, como bien un pho di an guk di ldsfjkl hentai?

[HinataFan]

ne, sensei, what does fumoffu from full methal panic fumoffu mean??

i'd like to know, since my sis named my dog fumoffu!

That is a really cute name :shock: . I've watched the anime but not until now have I realized how cute of an pet name it is.

On topic. I self taugh myself Katakana and then liek got a teacher to do Hiragana with me just started that like the first week of summer, eventually I learned I guess I shoulda learned Hiragana first. Pooy I say. Mousie, what did you learn first?

[Mousie]

@ Chidongan. They are fairly easy to learn For the most, making flash cards helps you remember them faster.

@ HinataFan.
I learned Hiragana first. Then Katakana. I already knew numbers considering its written the same in Chinese and Korean (half Korean here). But of course, I had to learn how to count certain things. Like counting people and counting pencils have different suffixes. It can get confusing at times.

Tip:
Remember or Memorize, numbers, times, days, and months.

[AK47]

how do you count in japanese
i only no futatsu

[animeking]

hey can your name be diffrent in a some other language if it can how would you say Edgar Moises Vera o_O ? and yes thats my full name :roll:

[Mousie]

well..the only language I could think anything would be different in is Latin. Since like 90% of words have latin roots in it.

But as far as Japanese goes..? No. It will only be presented in different order thats all.

[Kuroda]

I just bought a japanese book and its working, its an easy language

[animeking]

I just bought a japanese book and its working, its an easy language

hate you (i wanna learn japanese) also i dont really hate you *bows before the almighty mousie for being omnipotent in this forum and knowing japanese*

[Hime_sama]

what does yokohama means?

[Mousie]

yoko = side or width
hama = beach?

I guess it means something like seaside? Because Umi means ocean.

[Hime_sama]

arigato sensei! nothing on the fumoffu meaning?

[animeking]

why the hell are there ???? next to the letters in your 1st poste of this thread mousie o_O

[Mousie]

btw. sorry. i was wondering why the word didnt resgister. Yokohama is a place.

and fumoffu is a sound effect, onomatopoeia

@~animeking. its japanese lettering. :D

[Hime_sama]

what's onomatopoeia???

[Chidongan]

lol. its a word that makes represents the sound it makes.

like:

hiss
pow
Bam
blam
kapow
screech
poof
kukuku (oro's laugh)

[imported_partlink1]

by any chance has sentence structure been posted

if not that would be a big help :D

[AK47]

there is a scary story on yokohama
its a myth of a girl and her sister fighting over a guy and the sister pushes her other sister of a cliff of yokohama, and it goes on with a ghostly ending!

[Chidongan]

lol. its a word that makes represents the sound it makes.

like:

hiss
pow
Bam
blam
kapow
screech
poof
kukuku (oro's laugh)

haha i killed the first sentance. my mind was at two places at once. :P

[Mousie]

by any chance has sentence structure been posted

if not that would be a big help :D

Not yet. But I will get to that as soon I post up other stuff. I need to compile it so pls give me some time ^_^

[Chidongan]

zomg my Japanese 1 class is over. now i have to take Japanese 2,3,4,5, and 53. O.O

[animeking]

hey guys look at the site i found >.>

im not really sure if its a good site or bad site but here http://www.japanese-online.com/ im gonna see if it is atleast somewhat helpful :P http://freejapaneselessons.com/ here is anouther learn japanese site

[animeking]

http://www.timwerx.net/language/jpverbs/

http://www.kantango.com/

http://www.kanjistep.com/

http://spencer.blackmarket.net/

http://www.e-japanese.jp/


look see this thread is still here >.> just ignore this double poste this one time plz?

[Chidongan]

i just had a japanese 2 mid-term today.

i didnt do so well. >.>

[Davis]

WOW!

It took me forever, and it still doesnt teach japanesae!

Only links

[animeking]

WOW!

It took me forever, and it still doesnt teach japanesae!

Only links

well the links are learn japanese sites so use them :p

[Davis]

the sites you posted SUCK!

[animeking]

the sites you posted SUCK!

haha better than most sites :p and if they suck so bad why the hell dont you poste something better jackass

[shadowwolfx]

uhhh.... is it ok if i add a few things? just some words ^_^

itto - it
sewayaki - a bother
bandai - a watcher's seat
daiben - act for another
kokushibyou - black death
nadetsuke - smooth hair
kato - tame rabbit
hashiritakatobi - running high jump
sune-ku dansu - snake dance
ookami - wolf
garou - hungry wolf
kame - turtle
mouki - blind turtle
kokuei - dark shadow
kageboshi - shadow figure
bakahashinanakyanaoranai - once a fool
baka - idiot
kiro - one's way back
ato - a
ryu - dragon
ryuujin - dragon god
kyo - demon
akuma - devil
mitsukai - angel
koigokoro, ai, aijou, ji, ren'ai, aikou, suki, koi - love
sendo - death
jouten - god
eternal - eta-naru
watashi - i
wa - am
senpou, anohito, anokata, doushi, kare - he
kanojo, senpou, anokata, doushi, aitsu, anohito - she
ranmyaku, kaosu, konton, konran, muchitsujo - chaos
kouyuu, chikadzu, kon'i, shinwa, shuukou, shinboku - friendship
karera - they
shinshi - gentleman
do - sword
ken - counter of occerences
ken'do -sword way or way of the sword
teinei, kigurou, yakkai, kea, kuttaku, chuui, hogo - care
chuushin, kokoro, herutsu, shin, omoi, munesanzun - heart
akushin - evil thought, malicious motive
anchuumosaku - groping in the dark
bichuu - ones innermost thoughts (a persons feelings)
aichou - sympathetic condolences (for idiotic people that can also mean pity >.>)
iroppoi, seiteki, kannouteki - sexy
renbo - tender emotions
benkeinonakidokoro - one's weak point or shin
gekido - rage
kamenbutoukai - masquerade ball
chuuryuunojousoukaikyuu - upper middle class
hitogokoro - human spirit, kindness or sympathy
hotokegokoro - the buddha's heart or the buddha's mind
kaikoroku - reminiscensce
koikokoro - awakening of ones love
kokorobosoi - helpless, forlorn, hopeless, unpromising or lonely
houki - asking a ladies age (i think)
akuyuu - bad companion
an'yu - metaphor
akuhekiganaoru - to get over a bad habit
eregansu - elegance
gandate - Buddhist prayer
bishoujo - beautiful girl
seien - weirdly beautiful
shitsureishimashita - im sorry
ashitaba - angelic
donokurai - how much
ikunichi - how many days?
haira-ten - to marry
mun-saruto - moonsault
saru - ninth sign of Chinese zodiac
sarumokikaraochiru - even monkeys fall from tree's
hebidoshi - year of the snake (i am the snake >.>)
hyou - lean on, lie heavy or recline on (on someones stomach)
shinkeigasurudoi - sensitive
mikkoku - secret information (classified >.>)

ichidakusenkin doushitemo hidarinoyounawake, kaiyou beki shocchuu uketsukeru desu..

Welcome - uerukamu
Idiot - Baka
What - Nani
Hey - omaesan - oi
Nirvana - nehan
Ok - yoi
Yes - Hai
Damnit - Chikusho
Liar - Usotsuki
Monster - Bakemono
Punk - Gaki
Shut Up - Urusai
Traitor - Uragirimono
You Basterd - Teme
Asshole/Jerk - Bakayarou
I will never forgive you - Zettai yurusenai
I'm going to kill you -Bukkoroshite yaru zo.
Hello - Konnichiwa
Good Morning - Ohayou
Thank you - Arigatou
No - iie
bakageta ko - Foolish Child

[Davis]

^
l

"o_o"

wow, alot of stuff!

Were did you learn all that?!,

And animneking, wtf?
Why is noone ever friendly to anyone on the forum?
try to be nicer.
I was insulting the sites, not you.

[animeking]

^
l

"o_o"

wow, alot of stuff!

Were did you learn all that?!,

And animneking, wtf?
Why is noone ever friendly to anyone on the forum?
try to be nicer.
I was insulting the sites, not you.

hmm sorry but just saying finding a good learn jap site is not easy hell your better off learning from books and schools -_-

[Davis]

I know, but noone teaches japanese! Japanese classes are hard to find,
so I gave up after a while.
Books you say?
IM IN!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

*Super smiley*

[animeking]

I know, but noone teaches japanese! Japanese classes are hard to find,
so I gave up after a while.
Books you say?
IM IN!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

*Super smiley*

-_-' yeah but its not that easy even if you learn from books >.> and even if you learn japanese if you go to japan you will probably be very confused during a conversation lmao

[shadowwolfx]

lol i learn most of my stuff from my friends xD

[Davis]

lol, I waatch a loooooooooooooooooot of anime, and my grandma can help me out.
She doesn't speak english good enough to teach though^^

[Chidongan]

if you wanna learn japanese. learn Hiragana first. and how they sound. then learn their pronounciation. then move on to katakana. then move on to learn some words.

[animeking]

http://www.guidetojapanese.org/ <----- good site


http://pepper.idge.net/japanese/ <---- does not teach you a thing but its funny


http://www.japanese-name-translation.com/site/hiragana_symbols.html <---stroke orders

http://www.sf.airnet.ne.jp/~ts/japanese/cover.html <--- another good site

http://www.jref.com/language/japanese_suffixes.shtml <--- on suffixes

http://www.nihongoresources.com/ <--- more

http://www.realkana.com/ <---- another site for practice >..>



and there we go

now for some extra

http://www.darkmirage.com/2005/11/14/a-guide-to-learning-japanese/

http://www.darkmirage.com/2006/07/08/beginners-japanese-chapter-0-prologue/

http://www.darkmirage.com/2006/07/08/beginners-japanese-chapter-i-verbs/

http://www.darkmirage.com/2006/07/14/beginners-japanese-chapter-ii-sentences/

http://www.darkmirage.com/2006/07/22/beginners-japanese-chapter-iii-kanji/

http://www.darkmirage.com/2006/07/30/beginners-japanese-chapter-iv-1st-katamari/

http://www.darkmirage.com/2006/08/16/beginners-japanese-chapter-v-adjectives/

http://www.darkmirage.com/2006/09/24/beginners-japanese-chapter-vi-keigo/

http://www.darkmirage.com/2006/08/01/japanese-titbits-1-%e9%bb%84%e6%98%8f-tasogare/

http://www.darkmirage.com/2006/09/09/japanese-titbits-2-hentai-vs-ecchi/

http://www.darkmirage.com/2006/12/15/japanese-titbits-3-zettai-ryouiki/

and those are all the sites for now also look a few pages back for a few other sites i posted ^_^

edit: how did this go to the newbie section o.O shouldnt this be in the anything section

[CS2-Sasuke]

wow thanks that helped

[animeking]

http://po-ru.com/projects/kanji-project/list/


that site has 2000 Kanji o.O

[Jey]

Learn what all of the symboles mean, learn how the words work, and learn how the sentance structure works, then you might be able to hold yourself in a conversation. You must also know the difference between Hiragana and Katakana. Otherwise you will be hearing some fked up things.

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

lol i wanna learn a 3rd language but japanese seems quite different.

Has anyone learned japanese ? or atleast know enough to make a trip to japan and not go crazy lol ?

[JoshAries]

Hey all. I had a question. Im play a game called Amtgard... which is basically a medieval fighting game... and Im currently trying to create myself some garb.

On this garb I want to place some a couple sentences in Japanese. Obviously they have several different systems... but I was hoping that someone would be able to help me out. What I want to use is this:

'I am the arms of God, who wields the claws of the Devil'

I know its a bit silly. But I like it for some reason. So if anyone could help me out I'd appreciate it.

[oipotty]

just go on a japanese english translator

[animeking]

just go on a japanese english translator


hmm for some reason i doubt that well help much o.O isnt it possible for a translator to screw up somehow?

[high6]

just go on a japanese english translator

English to Japanese and vise versa can get you different results.


Also "japanese for dummies" is a good read on the basics of japanese.

[Hokage1991]

Thanks, i need to learn a little japanese.

[-Erios-]

Thanks mousie today i have learned something new