The Truth???

[Hellchild915]

Watch this video and post what you think of it

I agree 100%.


EDIT: Video has been removed for some reason I will try and find it again or will upload to youtube and will post it

EDIT: I have uploaded it to youtube please watch here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMHOUFl0uvU

[WalkingFish]

i do agree with it but if there sayin something like we didnt have to go to war id have to say yes we did have to go to war if we didnt go to war the others countries might think what pusssies and find that as a opening and if we didnt go to war iraq would just fuck us up some more(thats for me and the others in america).
and ya now what i just had a great thought of a manga every country is attacking each other and at the end of the series *about 30 books long*
It would say Do you want to end up like this and also at the end the main charachter is talking to like the world after th world has come to peace and he says that the war wiped out 2/3 of the population on earth anyone think that a great idea?

[Bap]

Unless the Bush admin. finds a way to continue their power past Bush's second term, this plan will not succeed. First of all, Bush has 3 years left to complete this imperialistic idea. After that, there is a good chance a democratic canditate will be elected, since Bush's popularity is like below 30% right now. Most likely, the Democrats would not go the way of Bush, unless they were stupid. After WWI, many US citizens were no longer interested in foreign affairs, and many still don't have any interest in foreign affairs. A plea to the US people to expand the country probably wouldn't go well, imo.

I think that idea is ridiculous. The US is still in the hands of its citizens, though many do not know it anymore really. So not until the US citizens surrender their power will this idea work. Under fascism in Italy and Germany, for example, the people didn't have rights to stand against hte government. The US will not become a fascist country anytime soon because the people are too different to unite for the same goal. We have too many differing cultural groups with differing opinions. The problem is people don't seem to exercise their rights much anymore. US isolationism is still at large, i think.

[kjrav]

bap I agree w/t what your sayin and what the video said.I think it's a combination of both while the citizens still have the power even if we all are different our country has always responed to things patriotically uniting us under one Idea. while I dont think we'll evr fall under facisist ideals our patriotism can make an easy way to manipulate us even if we don't realise it. but I don't think their trying to keep bush in power permanetly but cotinue an already broad dynasty if you take the tme to check records thouroughly you will notice almost all the presidents were distant to close cousins.This conspiracy( if you can truly call it that) began before the first president and will continue long after George Bush is gone he is nothing but a pwn to many greater schemes a puppet ruler if you will.Well thats all I got to say for now.

[ZrAeNiAn]

Unless the Bush admin. finds a way to continue their power past Bush's second term, this plan will not succeed. First of all, Bush has 3 years left to complete this imperialistic idea. After that, there is a good chance a democratic canditate will be elected, since Bush's popularity is like below 30% right now. Most likely, the Democrats would not go the way of Bush, unless they were stupid. After WWI, many US citizens were no longer interested in foreign affairs, and many still don't have any interest in foreign affairs. A plea to the US people to expand the country probably wouldn't go well, imo.

I think that idea is ridiculous. The US is still in the hands of its citizens, though many do not know it anymore really. So not until the US citizens surrender their power will this idea work. Under fascism in Italy and Germany, for example, the people didn't have rights to stand against hte government. The US will not become a fascist country anytime soon because the people are too different to unite for the same goal. We have too many differing cultural groups with differing opinions. The problem is people don't seem to exercise their rights much anymore. US isolationism is still at large, i think.


well in germany and people had the rights, but everyone who opposed the mass got killed.

Anyways the US atm is destroying everything they had build up in the last 8 years before bush became president. The US at this moment will not cooperate in the plans of the UN that involve better nature-preservation.

clinton worked his butt off to get the world to face 1 direction, he created protocols for the better of the humans globally. Clinton did what was nessecary to get people united and face 1 direction. All ideas that went into working under Clinton... everything has now been destroyed by Bush. Kyoto protocol that is made for the good of the balance of the earth has been disbanded by the US. Clinton signed it, bush tore it apart. International cooperations have been disbanded by Bush. more then 80% of the worlds population does not agree with what Bush is doing, does Bush care? Ofc not... (the 80% is ofcourse not the real number but a indication)

-Zr-

[Bap]

well in germany and people had the rights, but everyone who opposed the mass got killed.



lol well, yeah -- same difference. People wouldn't go up against the gov just for that reason. It doesn't seem like much of a right if you get killed for doing it :?

But yeah, Bush has screwed alot up, but that is why he wouldn't be able to establish an ultimate rule. Since the movie compared him to Hitler in a way (which i disagree with in part), i'll use that, only as a contrast. Hitler was charismatic, and loved by the people (at least at first). Now we all know Bush, and how charismatic he is :lol: -- And not all the people were united under Bush. Just over half of the voting population voted for Bush in the 2004 election. There are even less in support of him now. There is no way Bush could get the support from enough people to establish an "empire"

[Hellchild915]

the video has been removed for some reason I will try and upload my copy to youtube I will post it later

[kjrav]

Well bap, while hitler was charismatic and loved by people alot of it was do to the fact that the masses were and still are ingnorant to truth.Bush will (or was) probaly trying to rely on that fact.

[Bap]

Well, Hitler did try to do what he thought was best for his country. Whether the killing of millions of people was part of his original plan, I do not know. He wanted to regain what Germany had lost in WWI. He did what he thought was right, and I respect that. However ignorant the people were, Hitler did improve Germany in ways. Now Bush on the other hand, has seemed to create many more problems for the US.

[kjrav]

Actually he planned it all well before he actually did anything it was actually his second time the first time he failed to gain any foot hold in germany's gov. He in fact published a book (forgot what it was called) stating all his plans .

[Bap]

Mein Kampf is the book. I haven't read it yet, but i've been meaning to.

[Hellchild915]

I have uploaded my copy to youtube if you want to watch it go here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMHOUFl0uvU

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

That shit makes me hates the States governement and all that even more than I did before.

[Bap]

Ah, propaganda does work :P

[gerbster11]

There is no difference between democratic and republican party. It's all just spin. Our freedoms are being slowly taken away. Pretty good video, but it barely scratches the surface of what's going on. And just as the video states, Bush is only a figurehead. The real people responsible are behind the scene. I remember, wasn't the internet developed by the government?? Maybe for surveillance?? Anyways, I always go here to get good news and I recommend everyone go here. www.whatreallyhappened.com

[venin]

yup i agree like the video said bush is a figurehead. it really doesnt matter who is choosen.

[kjrav]

It's really just all an illusion to makes us think we have power is what your trying to say basically right? Then I agree.

[Bap]

I remember, wasn't the internet developed by the government?? Maybe for surveillance??

Yeah, Al Gore invented the internet :lol:

But seriously, it was created to be used for the government, and not until later did the public get access to it. Who knows.

I must have missed the part of Bush being -just- a figurehead. HAve you guys heard about Bush being a part of the Illuminati? IT could be them...

I still disagree with the Nazi comparison though.

[Hellchild915]

Yeah its not that bad that you can call it nazi yet

[kjrav]

I remember, wasn't the internet developed by the government?? Maybe for surveillance??

Yeah, Al Gore invented the internet :lol:

But seriously, it was created to be used for the government, and not until later did the public get access to it. Who knows.

I must have missed the part of Bush being -just- a figurehead. HAve you guys heard about Bush being a part of the Illuminati? IT could be them...

I still disagree with the Nazi comparison though.

Not the Illuminati the Masons. Illuminati are UK ,Masons America both speculated to control modern world.

[Hellchild915]

yeah I watched a show on the history channel on them and they have powerful members (president Bush is part of the Skulls)

[Bap]

I remember, wasn't the internet developed by the government?? Maybe for surveillance??

Yeah, Al Gore invented the internet :lol:

But seriously, it was created to be used for the government, and not until later did the public get access to it. Who knows.

I must have missed the part of Bush being -just- a figurehead. HAve you guys heard about Bush being a part of the Illuminati? IT could be them...

I still disagree with the Nazi comparison though.

Not the Illuminati the Masons. Illuminati are UK ,Masons America both speculated to control modern world.

There are many different conspiracies about this thing though. I've heard the Illuminati one, and the Mason one...not the skulls though :P

[kjrav]

Yeah I never heard of the skulls :? or is it a sect of one of the others :?:

[retsam]

as for what it says... I really don't care, it's meh and is semi-bull...

But as for artistic trasition wise, it is of super quality.

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Kjrav and Bap, you are kidding me, the Skulls is a sect in a movie with Paul Walker of Fast and the Furious.

[Hellchild915]

Yeah I never heard of the skulls :? or is it a sect of one of the others :?:

The skulls are a secret group from yale university and many people important people are from there many passed presidents are said to be members most of the important illumni are part of skulls

[Bap]

Kjrav and Bap, you are kidding me, the Skulls is a sect in a movie with Paul Walker of Fast and the Furious.

I wasn't kidding. I really didn't know of the SKulls.

[Hellchild915]

you can read about them here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_and_Bones

[gerbster11]

Skull and bones groom people to become leaders. They arent part of Illuminati though, just one of their many tools. Illumimati play everyone against each other, they want one world government.

[kjrav]

I dont know My dad is a Mason and an iluminate so I stol his masonry book and his illuminate book and they are really kinda confusing.

[gerbster11]

i highly doubt it, regular masons dont really know what's going on in the higher degrees. Only when you get to like 33rd degree they let you in on the good stuff. And only way to get that degree is by years and years of dedication, and then being nominated, and then going through ceremony where if you make wrong choice, you will never become 33rd degree. And I highly doubt your dad is illuminati.

['W']

Well it's obvious Bush is a figurehead or as I like to call him "A Puppet".
Made to say and do what he is told. The whole point of having Bush as the "Puppet" is to point the american public in his direction, thus concealing what is going on behind the scenes.

The one thing most americans get wrong is that Bush is a bad president.. When in reality all the things that he "decides" were simply what he was told to decide. There are no "good or bad" presidents really.. the only good or bad part about a president is simply in the eye of the beholder.. everyone has an opinion about the president..

We americans are made to belive that we have freedoms in this country... a truely laughable concept that is just another mask hiding what is truely going on. Everyday they take away more and more freedoms.. what's next? who knows... I mean true freedom would mean total anarchy...

While it may be extreme to compare our government to the nazi's..
We really arn't that far away from it... I mean war on terror, or terrorism...
That is something that can never end.. almost like "a cleansing" in itself.. simply another mask to hide the governments true intentions.. terror is a concept that has existed since the beginning of time, so to think it can end is, to put it bluntly, stupid..

Well before I rant on this and make this single post 100 pages.. (yes I could say that much :P)

I'll end this by saying yes I totally agree with this video and these are simply my opinions.. agree or disagree with this, it still won't change the truth that is really out there...