Neji Vs. Sasuke

[JustAnime17]

I dont know if this thread has already been made cause it seems like an obvious one but in terms of sharingan vs byakugan who do you think would win keep in mind that the user could also affect the outcome. They were both the best genin at one time so fight away.

Im gonna say Neji just because it seems like he'll be the underdog here so yeah

[regina777]

this is like byakugan vs sharingan--- this exists somewhere.

Vs galore!!!!
for the sake of the thread i will just say neji.

[imported_Greenlitflag]

Already made in the anime section. And we don't really know how much sasuke has changed (a lot I imagine.) But I'm assuming that sasuke would win with Oro's training... that would be kinda bad writing if sasuke couldn't beat neji even after being trained for 3 years.

[jayruc]

neji all the way.. that if sasuke dun use curse seal lv 2

[Canthinkofaname]

well yes this had been made b4 but it was in the anime (it was made by me)
http://forum.narutochaos.com/viewtopic.php?t=9736
and based on the poll it would probably be a tie
but in my opinion sasuke would win

[kjrav]

sasuke cause sasuke beat naruto and naruto beat negi.
fact taken from post of superhanko

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

I say neji cause if sasuke gets his tenketsu or something like that hit, he is just done.

[Canthinkofaname]

sasuke cause sasuke beat naruto and naruto beat negi.
fact taken from post of superhanko

check further into cuz if you remember
sasuke>naruto>neji>rock lee>sasuke
cuz if you remember rock lee kicked sasukes ass while rock lee gets pwned by neji even though i agree sasuke would win

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Yes but rock lee and sasuke wasn't a true true fight if you know what I mean, plus sasuke is way stronger than before with lee's speed and the chidori while Lee didn't improve as much.

[kjrav]

and when did lee beat negi outside of a spar arn't w talking about full blown fights here sasuke & Naruto full fight they coulda died, Naruto & Negi full fight they coulda died, lee & Negi not full they wouldn't go that far,Sasuke & lee Not full wouldn't go that far big difference.

[Canthinkofaname]

well i still say sasuke would win against neji

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

And why? Prove your opinion or something.

[kjrav]

I agree w/t canthinkofaname.

[Canthinkofaname]

And why? Prove your opinion or something.

it would be a good match but
1. even though neji has tenketsu (or w/e seals ur chakra) sasuke can probably go cursed seal b4 he uses it
2. sasuke has sharingan so basically this is also sharingan vs. byakugan
byakugan - 360 vision
x-ray vision
and other abilities
sharingan- confuses opponents mind
manipulates opponents mind
sees future movements
has special jutsu masters can use

plus sasuke has all those fire jutsu and neji has a few hyuuga jutsu

[kjrav]

more like alot of hyugga jutsu.

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Yeah and I don't think sasuke could penetrate kaiten.

[Canthinkofaname]

kaiten? you dont think chidori could penetrate it? besides he could just wait till its done then hit him either way
plus sasuke has lots more uchiha jutsu

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Canthinkofaname, you got to get your old avatar back, this one is hypnotizing, I think i wil l pukEEEEEEEEErgh......

[Canthinkofaname]

i thought maybe time for change
so i picked this one and i thought
*man if only it moved* cuz i saved it and whenever i looked at it it wasnt moving
so i looked at it and it was moving so im like
thats so friggen awesome im keepin it

anywayz sasuke would kick nejis ass

[KageNaruto]

well if sasuke gets cocky neji wins for sure... otherwise very close match in my opion, plus we didnt se either character yet very much, sasuke not at all

[RandomGuy]

Chidori might penetrate Kaiten. I dunno. Kaiten uses Chakra to block, and Chidori uses Chakra to cut. I dont see why Neji couldn't just use the same amount of energy in Kaiten to stop the Chidori, then just knock it away. Remember, Kaiten isn't a full on block like Gaara's defense, its a parry, meaning it knocks the attack to the side.

None of Sharingan's abilities works against a Hyuuga unless its reading and copying movements. Byakugan sees through all Genjutsu and a Byakugan user can see the Sharingan user without looking into his eyes. I personally think it would probably tie. Sasuke can't get near Neji because Neji's taijutsu is much faster and overall better than his. Neji cant match Sasuke's movement speed so he can never catch up to Sasuke. Sasuke can use long distance attacks, but Neji can easily dodge them since he can see whats going to happen with Byakugan. If he can't dodge, then hell just kaiten.

If Sasuke uses CS, then he might be able to overpower Neji like Naruto did with Kyuubi.

[Hellchild915]

Im pretty sure sasuke wins but we dont really know how much sasuke has grown in power plus the thread is basicly Byakugan vs. Sharingan which there is already a thread on

[Canthinkofaname]

ppl keep saying that when no its not
sasuke uses sharingan as an ability
not his only ability, has others >.>
same with neji

[imported_Greenlitflag]

Not only has there been a byakugan vs. sharingan thread, there has also been a neji vs sasuke thread. Somehow I don't see neji beating sasuke after being trained by Oro. What would be the point of having sasuke make such a dramatic effort to get power if he still isn't as strong as neji (or whoever.) That would make that whole part of the story seem pointless.

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

good point, but just because he was trained by him doesn't mean he is the strongest, maybe neji trained even more, we just don't know.

[Blessed Devil]

Well, it should be made clear, then. Is this pre-timeskip? Because if this IS post-timeskip, there's no point in debating about this because we haven't seen Sasuke fight yet.

[JustAnime17]

This is basically Post-time Skip and while theres no point debating you can at least think about who would win, but maybe we should wait till we see how much sasuke has grown

[regina777]

This is basically Post-time Skip and while theres no point debating you can at least think about who would win, but maybe we should wait till we see how much sasuke has grown

in my opinion- you made this thread at as good a time as any. we dont know much about sasuke, but considering how he was when we saw him the last time- 3 years back- and that he is about to probably be in the next chapter- this thread can still exist.
it is true there isnt much info on sasuke- but is there much on Neji? what have we seen of neji that is soo different- his chakra throws or what? if it is about how much we know- we dont know much of eithers complete development in the last 3 years.

[RandomGuy]

Yea, Neji's probably been training under Hiashi too. Oro's probably stronger, but still.

[gerbster11]

I wonder if Sasuke would be able to dodge that 64 or 128 combo by Nejii, and if hit would he even be able to use the cursed seal if he cant produce chakra?? I voted Neji( cuz i like underdogs). I mean he beat that spider guy with the cused seal, and that was way back in the day. Now he much stronger. And does Sasuke's cursed seal give him any extra abilities besides two big a$$ hands on his back?? It's too early to say but fun to talk about..

[Valleyman]

I hate both Neji and Sasuke. This isn't a fan based vote, but I think Sasuke would win.

[kjrav]

I wonder if Sasuke would be able to dodge that 64 or 128 combo by Nejii, and if hit would he even be able to use the cursed seal if he cant produce chakra?? I voted Neji( cuz i like underdogs). I mean he beat that spider guy with the cused seal, and that was way back in the day. Now he much stronger. And does Sasuke's cursed seal give him any extra abilities besides two big a$$ hands on his back?? It's too early to say but fun to talk about..

If you look at the poll sasuke is the underdog not negi.

[KageNaruto]

do you know polls are stupid? noobs swarm in vote for teir fav character and leave, no matter what the topic.

sasuke on this forum has been getting very lil love for the npast few months, and neji is much more popular

[gerbster11]

I wonder if Sasuke would be able to dodge that 64 or 128 combo by Nejii, and if hit would he even be able to use the cursed seal if he cant produce chakra?? I voted Neji( cuz i like underdogs). I mean he beat that spider guy with the cused seal, and that was way back in the day. Now he much stronger. And does Sasuke's cursed seal give him any extra abilities besides two big a$$ hands on his back?? It's too early to say but fun to talk about..

If you look at the poll sasuke is the underdog not negi.


Oops, yeah you right Kjrav, guess i was thinking people would vote more for Sasuke because of sharingan and cursed seal..

[CRtwenty]

do you know polls are stupid? noobs swarm in vote for teir fav character and leave, no matter what the topic.

sasuke on this forum has been getting very lil love for the npast few months, and neji is much more popular

That's because of his betrayal. It made him lose quite a bit of respect from a lot of people (myself included). He'll probably get more popular once he shows us what he's learned over the time jump.

He's still probably the #1 Character in the Japanese poll though. -_-

Personally I prefer Neji over Sasuke, Neji's fighting style is just cool to watch.

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

I agree, sasuke is original enough, he is like kakashi but younger, with both sharingan but a scum attitude.

[y.o.]

If sauske doesnt know about jyuuken then neji would own!! If he knew to keep away, and fight from mid to long range, sauske would win!!

[Uchiha Adrian]

neji = master of close combat back in the day, but now hes known as a long distance fighter?

sasuke= aint seen much of him with his new training but wasnt that strong before.

and that guy who said oro might be stronger then hiashi, i think it wud be a close fight.

[y.o.]

Are you on crack?? Neji is now considered a long range fighter?? Cause we seen his vacuum palm, thats a long range move! We havent seen any of sauske, and your crazy if you think that he wasn't that strong!! And b/n Oro and Kakashi! That my friend would be a one sided fight, even itachi knows it, If anyone is weak thats supposedly exceptional, is kakashi, he wouldnt have beat zabuza in the first fight if it hadnt been for team 7! He didnt exsactly pawn him in the 1st or 2nd fight!

[RandomGuy]

do you know polls are stupid? noobs swarm in vote for teir fav character and leave, no matter what the topic.

sasuke on this forum has been getting very lil love for the npast few months, and neji is much more popular

That's because of his betrayal. It made him lose quite a bit of respect from a lot of people (myself included). He'll probably get more popular once he shows us what he's learned over the time jump.

He's still probably the #1 Character in the Japanese poll though. -_-

Personally I prefer Neji over Sasuke, Neji's fighting style is just cool to watch.
Agreed. The fact that Neji can deal so much damage at only close range just seems way cooler to me. His fighting styles also based on a real martial art: a form of Taichi called Bagua, which is what Hakke directly translates to.

[imported_Greenlitflag]

Yes, basicly neji is a pressure point fighter which is an interesting contrast to Lee, who is a more bruce lee-brawler type of fighter. I've seen a couple people fight like neji (somewhat, lol) in dojo and whatnot. Also, against naruto he kinda used a style in which you flow with the enemies attacks and turn them on them (it's described as fighting a ghost or a wall. Basicly, the attacker puts all of their effort into attack and the defensive person just uses their energy to flow their attacks away. This will render the attack tired while the person on the defense can now go on the offense... I imagine this is what Neji vs Lee would be like, assuming neji won.)




Wait, what were we talking about? :lol:

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

y.o. you are hating dude, yes kakashi would get his butt kicked by oro but the guy was talking about hiashi, not kakashi, he would also get his butt kicked but whatever, and kakshi underestimated zabuza but he is much stronger than him, i'm pretty sure kakashi wasn't fighting at a 100%. I'm pretty sure kakshi is even more strong then what we saw of him, his father was said to be one of the strongest of konoha and he was the student of the 4th, there must be things we haven't seen of him yet.

[xxditachanxx]

I think Sasuke would win. >__> Personally, I think that Sharingan > Sasuke

[KageNaruto]

you think sharingan is better than sauske?

[kjrav]

y.o. you are hating dude, yes kakashi would get his butt kicked by oro but the guy was talking about hiashi, not kakashi, he would also get his butt kicked but whatever, and kakshi underestimated zabuza but he is much stronger than him, i'm pretty sure kakashi wasn't fighting at a 100%. I'm pretty sure kakshi is even more strong then what we saw of him, his father was said to be one of the strongest of konoha and he was the student of the 4th, there must be things we haven't seen of him yet.

I agree b/c Kakashi even said he was outta shape.

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Yes and also, being sensei to some youngsters doesn't train him and makes him stronger. Plus it's not like he was too old to get better than he is, he is only 30.

[KageNaruto]

y.o. you are hating dude, yes kakashi would get his butt kicked by oro but the guy was talking about hiashi, not kakashi, he would also get his butt kicked but whatever, and kakshi underestimated zabuza but he is much stronger than him, i'm pretty sure kakashi wasn't fighting at a 100%. I'm pretty sure kakshi is even more strong then what we saw of him, his father was said to be one of the strongest of konoha and he was the student of the 4th, there must be things we haven't seen of him yet.

I agree b/c Kakashi even said he was outta shape.

but if hes ouuta shape whos fault is that? his own. we are comapring current strenghths right now, not back when he was 20 or whatever. and like i said if he oversleeps and forgets to work out its his fault

[y.o.]

Im not hatin on kakashi, I still like him, but I havent really been impressed w/ him until I saw his mange, but that doesnt detier him from being one of my favorite characters!

[RandomGuy]

I think that if Kakashi hadn't been careless vs Zabuza, hadn't been matched up vs Oro, and hadn't been matched up against Itachi, I bet people would be more impressed with Kakashi.

[Canthinkofaname]

you think sharingan is better than sauske?

yes probably cuz without sharingan-
first. never wouldve copied awnsers from dude and failed on first part of chuunin exam
second. if he did somehow pass, without sharinga when he fought lee. never wouldve copied his move and used it on that dood
third. never wouldve been able to use chidori (couldve but wouldntve seen opponenets counter) and probably lose any fight weve seen him use it in.

probably many more reasons why sharingan is better than sasuke (cuz it is IMO) but those are a few

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

But there is one thing you really got wrong, he didn't need to copy in the first part of the chuunin exam since the 9 first question didn't count, it wasn't the important part of the exam. If you remember, naruto passed it with a blank sheet.

[Canthinkofaname]

i know that
but the point remains valid for without it
he couldnt copy the movements of the dude and wouldntve answer the questions

[y.o.]

your being petty! Same goes for alot or the nin, like Garra, Ino and others its there jutsu, some advantage that they have and that they would be a fool not to use!!

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Who?

[y.o.]

cantthinkofanime!

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

I wouldn't say petty, but what he is saying that shringan is stronger than sasuke really is lame. I don't like sasuke but the argument was like saying, neji is nothing without byakugan, it's part of their genetic so just don't make an argument of that.

[y.o.]

sharingann is more powerful than alot of nin thats why I say that!

[Canthinkofaname]

wtf is wrong with you to
thats basically what i said

and no lee im saying sasuke is good, reall good, but without the sharingan less good, but still good
and neji can still all the moves he does now without byakugan. just harder for kaiten but byakugan just gives him special advantages. lots of sasukes techs are based on sharingans abilities and without it would become useless (his jutsus (not all) not him). and without sharinga he couldntve seen narutos future movements and wouldve got his ass kicked

[RandomGuy]

Withough Byakugan, Neji wouldn't be able to do Divination strikes, he wouldn't be able to see the Keirakukei so he wouldn't be able to do Jyuuken as well, his Kaiten would only be useful from the front, etc. Without Kyuubi, Naruto wouldn't be able to heal so fast, he wouldn't have that insane amount of chakra even if he naturally has a good amount, etc. Temari would be nothing without her fan. Tayuya would be nothing without her flute.

A lot of people would be a lot worse without something. However, they all have those abilities whether we like it or not so theres no use speculating "What if they didn't have these abilities." Also, in most of these cases they had to train themselves to be able to use these abilities to their greatest extent.

[Canthinkofaname]

w/e

[CRtwenty]

Yes, Neji wouldn't be able to use most of his moves without the Byukagon. Jyuuken? It's only half as effective without the ability to see Tenketsu. Divination Strikes? Impossible without the Byukagon.

And if the chakra control is another Hyuuga trait, he'd lose his Kaiten as well, rendering him pretty much useless.

[Canthinkofaname]

well yeah but i just was talking about sasuke and sharingan i wasnt talking about neji and byakugan

[CRtwenty]

Sasuke would do better without his Sharingan, then Neji would do without his Byukagon. The only Sharingan based technique we've seen him use were the windmill blades. As far as we've seen he's only used the Sharingan defensively, for its Genjutsu piercing properties, and Taijutsu reading abilities.

This is excluding the Genjutsu he used last chapter.

[Canthinkofaname]

but remember chidori requires the sharingan to see opponents counter and without it its an incomplete jutsu

[CRtwenty]

Hmmm, that is true... so windmill blades AND Chidori...

But he still has all of his fire techniques available.

[Canthinkofaname]

i know that

[Sabaku no Kakashi]

with the cursed seal Sasuke is most probably stronger than Neji, juz look at the destructive power in his fight with Naruto...I doubt even Neji can take it...but without the cursed seal...its another matter

Firstly, they are both geniuses, lets assume their overall skills are on par...in a long distance fight, it'll be difficult for sasuke to hurt neji using shuriken and stuff cuz of the byakugan...but neji can clearly see where Sasuke is so ambush is nearly impossible given Neji's formidability as an opponent...Sasuke cant copy much of Neji's techniques since Byakugan is an advanced bloodline and Neji rarely, if ever uses techniques in the first place. If Sasuke uses other techniques against Neji, Neji may be able to see thru it before the technique materialises...in a short distance fight, Sasuke will be owned cuz of Neji's divination palms, even if Sasuke can anticipate the moves, he most likely cant evade it, Neji is well accustomed to Sasuke's fighting style which is similar to Rock's. Since Rock cant beat Neji with his taijutsu, and Rock is most likely better than sasuke in terms of this since this is all he trains at, and if he is not better than Sasuke in taijutsu, he'll lose much meaning as a character...thus Sasuke's taijutsu cant beat Neji, coupled with the fact that Sasuke knows virtually nothing about Neji's fighting techniques...also, the sharingan is a subset of the byakugan, it may not be as effective against Neji as it is against other ppl...

[Uchiha Adrian]

Apparently Neji is the 1 whos the most blessed from the Hyuuga clan and hiashi said Hyuuga strongest in konha so :P

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Yes but he also said they were the strongest clan of the village but yet he isn't not the strongest one.

[y.o.]

he will be!! Thats the whole purpose of them saying all that while hes young!

[imported_Greenlitflag]

I think neji will be great and famous like kakashi but I think sasuke is more likely to end up at sannin level. Basicly, if the story holds up the way it most likely will, neji will end up being great but sasuke, naruto, and maybe sakura will end up legendary.

[RandomGuy]

Probably like White Fang and Sannins. White Fang was as respected as Sannin's were in Konoha, but Sannins seem to be famous across nations.

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

y.o. I was talking about Hiashi, the guys is repeating '' The Hyuuga clan is the strongest clan in Konoha...'' bla bla bla but there are a lot of guys stronger than him, well i think, in the village and for now he is the strongest of the hyuuga, what I'm trying to say is yes the hyuuga clan is strong but definitely not as much as people think. Yet, apart from naruto and sasuke, neji is the strongest.

[y.o.]

I see hyuuga like the ultimate as a suprise, people who dont know about there ability and carelessly get close and fight them will die very quickly thats why thier strong but if you can fight them from a distance then you have a good chance of beating them

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Well not necessarily a good chance because they are still good ninjas but I agree in the way that yes they can be beaten and they have weaknesses like everybody.

[y.o.]

To be honest though thats a very hard weakness to exploit!

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Yes but it's still a weakness, there is always a way.

[y.o.]

But to attack 1 spot were somone cant see is kinda stupid cause alot of people see shit commin but cant do anything about it!

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Yeah but it's not his only weakness, being attacked from far is also one, yeah he beated the spider guy but still there are long range enemys that are much stronger.

[kjrav]

I got a question do you guys think negi would be as strong w/t ot Byukkagan

[Uchiha Adrian]

Loads of ppl stronger then Hiashi?!?! i think only a few not loads, u see him when he ONE HIT a cloud leader or what ever he was from.

[imported_Greenlitflag]

Loads of ppl stronger then Hiashi?!?! i think only a few not loads, u see him when he ONE HIT a cloud leader or what ever he was from.

Yeah, but then again, there are people in real-life who use pressure points and they definantly don't always come out on top in a fight. Keeping in mind that kishimoto has 100% control over what happens in the series, he could easily make a character be able to avoid his strikes if need be. Yes, one hit is impressive but most people aren't going to stand like a doofus like that last guy did.

[Ichee]

Come on........

Neji versus Sasuke

There isn't much we know about eithier except Neji improved emitting chakra from everywhere around his body.....

Sasuke seem to be way stronger so I doubt if him and Neji fight he will go into CS2......

Neji and him will probably have a heated battle but I say Sasuke....

-_-

[y.o.]

But still if neji gets in close enough sauske would be done!

[kjrav]

But he wont get in close enough b/c sasukr is alot faster.

[Glorious Ular]

Speed is still recognizable to byakugen. Neji might find a way to stop chidori or something,.. like stop the flow to his left chidori arm. Its a hard debate.

[superkhanh0]

yea its hard to decides these kinda topic unless they acually fight 4real

[KageNaruto]

i beat neji with sasuke in my naruto psp game. but... i beat sasuke with nejias well.....

lol well i still think neji would win unless sasuke goes curse seal right away

[y.o.]

Like a pspp game matters in a forum, naruto \can beat jariya and Kakashi in games!

[KageNaruto]

i was joking gosh. the last guy before me said "if they fought in real life" so a PSP is kinda real life lol.

[y.o.]

I know!

[RandomGuy]

I get the feeling there aren't like "a lot" of people stronger than Hiashi.

[y.o.]

Not alot, but if he was all that strong they would have chose him to be hokage!

[Hiyo]

Not alot, but if he was all that strong they would have chose him to be hokage!

He is the head of the hyuuga clan. I don't think he is even an option for Hokage.

[y.o.]

yes he would be, if they needed him, he would be made hokage, it would be his duty

[KageNaruto]

I know!

then dont amke a big deal out of it

[y.o.]

I didnt, I just wanted to get you rilled up, tha same way you make me feel when you say what you say about sakura!

[KageNaruto]

lol we are definitly rivals we disagree on everything

[Hiyo]

yes he would be, if they needed him, he would be made hokage, it would be his duty

say what? Since when it is anyones duty to become hokage. Jiraiya turned it down. Anyways.. i'd imagine clan heads would stick with the clan to protect run it/protect it's secrets. The clans are part of the village.. there really isn't anything to stop a clan from completely leaving one village for another if something went soar.

[RandomGuy]

yes he would be, if they needed him, he would be made hokage, it would be his duty

say what? Since when it is anyones duty to become hokage. Jiraiya turned it down. Anyways.. i'd imagine clan heads would stick with the clan to protect run it/protect it's secrets. The clans are part of the village.. there really isn't anything to stop a clan from completely leaving one village for another if something went soar.

Exactly. Clans seem to be autonomous to a certain extent. They would know that he has to lead the Hyuuga clan and probably choose someone else. Besides, a Hokage cant simply be strong, hes gotta know a lot, be compassionate, etc. basically have leadership qualities and be intelligent. Hiashi probably wouldn't be an ideal Hokage considering his attitude toward Hinata, the fact that he keeps such a biased and oppressive system in the Hyuuga, probably only really knows about Hyuuga affairs, etc.

[Ichee]

Hiashi seems to be corny....

Neji is my favorite from the Hyugga clan....

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Well there are not a lot of choice, we saw Hiashi, neji, hinata, her little sister and Neji's father, but neji would kick sasuke's ass anyway.

[Uchiha Adrian]

i agree with the guy above neji for the win.

[y.o.]

yes he would be, if they needed him, he would be made hokage, it would be his duty

say what? Since when it is anyones duty to become hokage. Jiraiya turned it down. Anyways.. i'd imagine clan heads would stick with the clan to protect run it/protect it's secrets. The clans are part of the village.. there really isn't anything to stop a clan from completely leaving one village for another if something went soar.

Exactly. Clans seem to be autonomous to a certain extent. They would know that he has to lead the Hyuuga clan and probably choose someone else. Besides, a Hokage cant simply be strong, hes gotta know a lot, be compassionate, etc. basically have leadership qualities and be intelligent. Hiashi probably wouldn't be an ideal Hokage considering his attitude toward Hinata, the fact that he keeps such a biased and oppressive system in the Hyuuga, probably only really knows about Hyuuga affairs, etc.

He would be pressuered to do it by the rest of hyuuga, it would be his responsibility to his clan and konoha as the head of the strongest clan, and nin in the village! That what I meant

[Canthinkofaname]

neji would win

um vs threads are meant for arguement meaning prove your point as to why hed win.[/quote]

[y.o.]

yeah they are! but neji to me has a unfair advantage, if you dont know about it cause all he has to do, literally touch you to defeat you

[KageNaruto]

dont complain about neji rocking so much. if its part of the character its not unfair.

[y.o.]

Im not complaing, but if someone who preferese ninjutsu (close combat fightin) didnt know about nejis taijutsu, he will be defeated, only exception will be naruto, well I guess same can be said about naruto, so pay no attention to my previous comments!

[KageNaruto]

thats why neji is a jyuken specialist, thats how he fights, and if you dont know about it you better hope ya get out alive!

[Uchiha Adrian]

lol if u dont know about it u will be dead :P

[RandomGuy]

Come to think of it, Kidoumaru was lucky that Oro told him about the Hyuuga bloodline. If Oro never told him, he probably woulda been beaten at the 64 strikes right in the beginning.

[CRtwenty]

Yea... and the rest of the Chase arc would have probably been a lot different. I get the feeling Neji would have made mincemeat out of Tayuya, and then Shikamaru, Kiba, and Neji could have had their way with Sakon/Ukon. :p

[RandomGuy]

Oh dear, imagine Tayuya trying to pull out her "ultimate" genjutsu on Neji... Actually I think Neji woulda beaten most except maybe Sakon since Sakon could rebuild himself I think. Kidoumaru was his worst matchup cept that he was the only one who stood a chance against him =\

[CRtwenty]

Well... Kimimaro would have probably owned him. But Kimimaro would have owned anybody whose name didn't start with a G and end with an aara.

[Ilpala271]

It took a hell of a lot of Gaara to beat up a sick dude that ended up dying on his own anyway...

[RandomGuy]

Ah yea, forgot about Kimi. Bleh yea that woulda been trouble. IF Neji could land a Jyuuken on his heart or brain or something he might be able to do some damage, but considering Kimimaros abilities and skills that woulda been plain impossible.

Come to think of it though, I wonder if Sasuke coulda beaten Kimi. I know Sasuke only got master Sharingan after this arc, but suppose he had it before, he could detect all the counters Kimi had, even possibly the ribcage surprise no jutsu. I doubt those bones could stand up to Chidori.

[Ilpala271]

I highly doubt Sasuke would have been able to fight Kimi equally. It would be a combination of dodging his bones ala the spikes from the ball of sand in his chuunin fight with Gaara coupled with a just plain tense taijutsu fight. The Sharingan might be able to observe, but there's no point seeing if your body can't keep up with everything.

As for the actual Sasuke/Neji fight, it's really a toss-up. Too many unknowns between Kaiten, Chidori, and their respective speeds. I'd lean slightly towards Sasuke because I don't have reason to believe his body CAN keep up with Neji's movements and dodge critical blows accordingly.

[Xearoveg]

I don't see how these VS threads can even work. Both characters are known for underestimating so kishimoto could make it go either way so really the question is!!!!!: Which person, Neji or Sasuke, would kishimoto have beat the other in a match?

and since i doubt anyone knows kishimoto that well i don't think anyone here can come up with anything more than a bad guess. considering its 50/50, your highest chance of being right is a mere 1/2.


If you really wanted to go all out you could check and see which character knew more about the other character which would most likely lead to that character underestimating the other character less, but in the end kishimoto might not look at it that way either, who knows he could flip a coin, thats IF they ever fight.

[CRtwenty]

Sasuke Vs. Kimi? I'd go with Kimi, though a Chidori would probably take him out.

The question is, would Sasuke be able to land a hit on him with it?

[RandomGuy]

Ya thats the biggest problem for both Neji and Sasuke vs Kimimaro. Kimi is too damn good at dodging and has such lethal close range abilities. Even both might be able to end it with one well placed strike, I doubt either could get that close to him.

[imported_Greenlitflag]

Well, according to neji fans, neji can move as fast as lee without weights (I have a hard time believing it but...) and Lee was able to land quite a few hits on Kimi... I don't really think this would be the case though, lol.

[CRtwenty]

Neji's base speed is slower then Lee's. But his actual agility, flexibility, and attack speed is faster.

[RandomGuy]

What CR said lol. Also the reason why Lee was able to land so many hits was because of his unpredictability with drunken boxing. The moment he lost that, no matter how fast he moved he was countered, even with his secondary lotus. Too bad Lee didn't know Jyuuken, he mighta been able to end it by getting past those damn bones and hitting vital organs. Anyway, Neji might be able to strike fast enough for Kimimaro not to be able to block it, but not before Kimis whole rib cage pops out to hit Neji.

[CRtwenty]

Kimimaro had some pretty nasty ranged attacks too. While Kaiten would probably block the finger bullets, I don't see it helping against his bone whip.

[KageNaruto]

well it can just defelct the bone whip, but then after neji finishs spinning he is basicly screwd

[y.o.]

not really, if kimi waz still close enough after deflecting the whip, he might be wide open, for neji to conter, unlike kido, who was at a distance attacking his blind spot

[KageNaruto]

but neji still has some delay time after the whirl stops, he cant suddenly run out of the kaiten while its still going (at least from all weve seen)

[AK47]

i hope sasuke i stronger
than the story will be on neji and sasuke wouldn't it

[RandomGuy]

Haha he made Sai soil himself by just looking at him, hell yea hes stronger. Itd be cool if Kishimoto somehow set up a Hyuuga vs Uchiha fight, but there doesn't seem to be any more opportunities after the Chuunin exam.

[y.o.]

true unless team gai shows up out of nowere

[gerbster11]

I think the cursed seal would give sasuke the edge in a fight with neji. if he didnt have cursed seal then i think neji would own.

[y.o.]

/damn, the server crased huh!! too a few days I feel you cause I work w/ networks too! good thing you all had back ups I would have been real madif I had to start as a chuunin again,


back too the topic cursed seal wouldnt reallyy give sauske an edge he didnt already have, raw power cant really beat juukyen style fighting, the only eay to beat it is through very thoughtful tatical fighiting!!

[kjrav]

Haha he made Sai soil himself by just looking at him, hell yea hes stronger. Itd be cool if Kishimoto somehow set up a Hyuuga vs Uchiha fight, but there doesn't seem to be any more opportunities after the Chuunin exam.

Not if Oro stages another assult on Leaf before he takes Sasuke bodt over.

[Canthinkofaname]

hyuuga vs uchiha would never happen because all the uchihas are dead but thatd be funny if they all came back to life and kicked hyuugas asses

[kjrav]

I can see it now Oro summons the entire Uchia clan from the dead to fight for him(though I doubt he has that much chackra).

[y.o.]

that would be gay, that is a cheap jutsu, just imagine he can even bring back kimi! I do like the jutsu it just seems to powerful and cheap

[kjrav]

Why dosen't he just like summon an elite team of ninja's from the dead to like do his bidding I mean there are so many options:All the hokages,Kakashi's dad,ect.

[KageNaruto]

that would be gay, that is a cheap jutsu, just imagine he can even bring back kimi! I do like the jutsu it just seems to powerful and cheap

why does he want to summon kimi when he could summon the hokages and kazekages and etc?

[Uchiha Adrian]

Hyuuga clan are strongest in konoha so they wud own uchiha.

[y.o.]

Why wouldnt he want to summon kimi, just imagine how strong his body is and he could regenerate, and his taijutsu and defence are still pretty much unmatched! Poison would have no effect on him and he is powerful so I think a summoned kimi could have beaten Sasori.

And Oro cant summon 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or the 3rd kazekage cause Sasori made a puppet out of him while he was alive, it maybe possible and I wouldnt dought it, but that might be a reason he cant.

As far as kakashis father, deffinetly but something that I get, he was kinda like asuma and used weapons w/ chakra, and he might not be as good w/o it!

[KageNaruto]

dude, theres a handful of other people that orochimaru could summon that would be way bette rthan kimimmaro. not to mention kimimaro wouldnt even have a curse seal, hed be a weakkling again

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

You are such a hater, kimimaro was ill and was moving his body with just his spirit not his muscles and all, plus he died from that illness, not from gaara's attack, so he is certainly not a weakling.

[kjrav]

But he did go curse seal.But I men there are plenty of people to summon who are better than kimi and if he can somehow summon the fourth from the belly of the death god then he can summon the Kazekage's as far as I am concened.

[KageNaruto]

without curse seal kimi is also not nearly as strong

sure kimimaro was strong but he wasnt that strong, hes not nearly sannin or kage level, just high jounin level like kakashi most likely

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Yeah, that is not even a question, he is far from sannin level, kakashi could have beat him down. What i'd like to know is if oro can summon the previous hokages more than once, because the Third has free up the 1st and the 2nd so can oro still summon them?

[kjrav]

I don't now but probally.

[KageNaruto]

i dont see why not

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Well maybe it's a one time technique i don't know.

[kjrav]

well if thats the case how would he know it works if he can only use it once?the same paradox found in the last chackra gate.

[y.o.]

I dont think he can, the 3rd said that he had to do something about the souls that were bound to his plane, and he had to do something about it!!

So by removing them he undid the summon and I dont think that they can be summoned again

As far as kimi goes, we all know he wasnt sannin lvl, Oro was his master, he was stronger and he was a sannin!! But hes strong and his bloodline is very versitile in a fight and can be helpful!

Regardless of lvl, its a good tech, and I believe kimi had mastered it.

By the way what makes you think that kimi wouldnt have the curse seal anymore if he was resurected and summoned??

[Uchiha Adrian]

This is off the topic!!

[y.o.]

OK, do you have anything relevant to say to put the topic back on track or are you just tryin to get your post count up w/ 1 liners!!

Gettin back to the topic of sauske and neji! sharingan owns byakugan, there are no special abilities other than super sight! And you get some of that w/ sharingan

[kjrav]

yeah all that special chackra control comes from training no Bayukagan.but he can see chackra flow and points witch he can use to disable sasuke's chackra flow and he can see 360 degrees....almost.But sharigan has Genjutsu and the ability to copy techniques which I think is way better.

[RandomGuy]

I thought this was Neji vs Sasuke and not Byakugan vs Sharingan.

[Ichee]

Sasuke ownz Neji.........

Sasuke been trained by Oro and is hungry.........

Hes not going to be bull shitting........

Hes going to just destroy Neji

[xato]

sorry, current sasuke vs. neji, sasuke is near a powerful point of strength... neji may have gotten stronger, but nowhere as strong as sasuke, sasuke is just a deamon, naruto and sasuke have become the top ranked. Neji may have 360 view, but the chidori will tear through the his charkra whirl.
Also, the anime happened the way it did, people need to quit making the "if he didnt have his..." statements, they have what they have, accept it. Quit trying to change what already is. The fact remains strong, the Top Dogs will always remain at the top. the ultimate battle will invlove the top dogs. Its just how it is. 1 < 2 <-- see that, 2 is always higher than 1. Sasuke has the upper hand because he's powerful, i aint a fan or trying to be bias, but its just the truth. Sasuke will win.

[KageNaruto]

so youre saying whos stronger will remain stronger?

tell that to the 4th when he surpassed his own teacher in strength

[RandomGuy]

I believe KageNaruto just gave xato a huge verbal pimp slap.

Remember what Neji got owned for? He believed the same thing youre saying xato, cept he got beaten by Naruto. You just say "omg sasuke is a deamon" but give no argument except a false belief that chidori will tear through Kaiten. Theres no evidence in what you say.

[kjrav]

I think sasuke can win cause to me it seems like oro is saying sasuke is around his strenth lvl which I doubt negi is even close to.but we still can't say anything till they actually fight which I could see happening.

[RandomGuy]

I think that Sasuke probably has powerful new techniques from Oro and a stronger Sharingan, but we haven't seen any of his abilities yet, so people shouldnt be automatically saying Sasuke is stronger just because "he was stronger before", especially since Neji was the one who was stronger before, not Sasuke (Kakashi said Sasuke didn't stand a chance).

Oh yea, Oro wasn't saying Sasuke was around his own strength level, but rather Sasuke's temper is more troublesome than his own.

[Hiyo]

Plus Neji's been training hard with Hinatas dad and we saw how strong we was during the attack on konoha.

[Ichee]

Okay whoever said that chidori cannot go through Neji's chakra whirl is an ass and do not what the hell they're talking about....

-_-

First off,
Chidori had another name called lightning edge because of it being able to cut through anything....
Sasuke I bet is at least 3 times as strong as he was before with a shit load of techniques....
but anyway Sasuke being stronger and more experienced will make his chidori rate of destruction deadlier so Neji chakra whirl will be dumb to do....

I think Neji won't be dumb enough to try and take that head on like he did with Naruto....

I think it will be a long battle between Sasuke and Neji because they both learn new tricks and has more experience....

Neji has covered all his weaknesses in battle from being just a close range fighter to mid and even long range..

Sasuke trained under Oro and is more badass than ever, he has to be hungry and ready to be set loose to get his hands dirty....

but Chidori going through Neji chakra whirl is possible..........

[y.o.]

I think that Sasuke probably has powerful new techniques from Oro and a stronger Sharingan, but we haven't seen any of his abilities yet, so people shouldnt be automatically saying Sasuke is stronger just because "he was stronger before", especially since Neji was the one who was stronger before, not Sasuke (Kakashi said Sasuke didn't stand a chance).

Oh yea, Oro wasn't saying Sasuke was around his own strength level, but rather Sasuke's temper is more troublesome than his own.

I disagree, we seen a tid bit of sauskes growth and power w/ that genjutsu he caught Sai in, He did it as easily as Itachi did when he came into Konoha a while back! And Im pretty sure Sai is stronger than the poor bastard who was standing watch that day!!

I would like to see that fight, and personnally I would want Neji to win, but I seriously dought he can, even though he trained under that hiashi, or whatever his name is Sauske trained under Oro who is stronger and hes a main character so he would win regardless!!

[Hiyo]

It doesn't even matter if chidori breaks thru his ultimate defense. Sasukes BODY still has to get past the whirl for him to reach Neji. If Neji is spinning fast enough Sasuke is still going to get tossed aside.

[y.o.]

I agree if chidori got through thee spinning chakra would catch his wrist and toss his

[Hiyo]

I agree if chidori got through thee spinning chakra would catch his wrist and toss his

Yup. And since chakra is coming outta all his holes it's not hard to keep the spin going if its only a small area attack like chidori.

In the case of the Neji vs Naruto fight; Naruto was a huge area of chakra and intersected Nejis whirlwind and pretty much put him to a halt and made a big boom.

[KageNaruto]

naruto actually just hit the kaiten with a kunai... it wasnt a big area of chakra. but is tillt hink chidori wouldnt penetrate a kaiten, amybe stalemate it but not penetrate.

[Hiyo]

naruto actually just hit the kaiten with a kunai... it wasnt a big area of chakra. but is tillt hink chidori wouldnt penetrate a kaiten, amybe stalemate it but not penetrate.

Actually after rewatching the episode... in the case of Neji vs Naruto he wasn't even able to start the whirl. Naruto got close to fast and Neji had to defend after only half a spin.

[y.o.]

It was just some realesed chakra, there was no spin at all, he didnt get a chance to spin, he just release chakra

[KageNaruto]

yup, you could call it level 1 kaiten.

he actually began spinning but had like less than a second. he was going "i gotta start the whirl" and then naruto hit him like half a second after he did

[kjrav]

kaiten sucks and it's a cheap move!

[imported_Greenlitflag]

yup, you could call it level 1 kaiten.

he actually began spinning but had like less than a second. he was going "i gotta start the whirl" and then naruto hit him like half a second after he did

The whirl just helps defend him and dosn't actually power up the damage/chakra, right? I'm not really trying to make a point, just curious lol.

[y.o.]

No the whirl is the whole force behind the move, thats what parrys and attacks his enemy, w/o the spin he can deflect objects, but the spin is were the true power is, if it wasnt there would be no reason to do it

[RandomGuy]

There is a force behind Kaiten though. It damages the opponent who tries to attack him, which is one reason why its stronger than Gaara's ultimate defense. Proof of that is that the Shadow Clones were released when they got hit by it. It was apparently also strong enough to count as a direct hit since they all disappeared immediately

Okay whoever said that chidori cannot go through Neji's chakra whirl is an ass and do not what the hell they're talking about....

-_-

First off,
Chidori had another name called lightning edge because of it being able to cut through anything....
Sasuke I bet is at least 3 times as strong as he was before with a shit load of techniques....
but anyway Sasuke being stronger and more experienced will make his chidori rate of destruction deadlier so Neji chakra whirl will be dumb to do....

I think Neji won't be dumb enough to try and take that head on like he did with Naruto....

I think it will be a long battle between Sasuke and Neji because they both learn new tricks and has more experience....

Neji has covered all his weaknesses in battle from being just a close range fighter to mid and even long range..

Sasuke trained under Oro and is more badass than ever, he has to be hungry and ready to be set loose to get his hands dirty....

but Chidori going through Neji chakra whirl is possible..........
lol, I guess Im an ass for pointing out that we have never seen Chidori penetrate Kaiten before. Second of all, Chidori is only chakra focused on the hand, so why is it so impossible for Neji to use chakra to deflect it? Also, like the others said, Kaiten has an area of effect around Neji, making it impossible for Sasuke to get close enough to hit Neji anyway if it could go through

[KageNaruto]

i wanna see rasengan against kaiten too lol

if only naruto learned that move instead of the summoning.... but then hed die against gaara lol

[Ichee]

YOur an ass for pointing out that none of us ever seen chidori penetrate thorugh Kaiten????

0_o

I be glad to call you an ass.....

anyway the reason it Kaiten will have a slim chance of deflecting it is because it's nothing but chakra with no shape.... It spins thats all...

CHidori is sharp and was able to penetrate through Garras sand which was deeply concentrated with chakra..

Even if the cheesy Kaiten deflects the chidori what makes you think Sasuke won't whoop his ass...

In fact Sasuke may not even do a jutsu against Neji...

[KageNaruto]

ichee you like sauske to much. and the kaiten is more than just spimming chakra

your argument on chakra with no shape is like the weakest ever.... sorry but it is.

[Ichee]

Haha maybe I do now that he doesn't take bullshit.....

I use to like Neji until he become some gay flowery Im out of the darkness because of Naruto type....

but anyway this is non biased really....

if it was Kakashi versuses Hiashi I would had said the same thing...

Actually to tell you the truth I thought Sasuke was a crying lil bitch before he went to Oro...
Also to me Neji is one of the coolest chracters on Naruto and I voted for him most of the times on polls on here...

-_-

[Shu2jack]

Pre-Chunnin Exam: Neji wins. Saskue just doesn't have the physical attributes at this time to win against Neji in H2H, I don't see his Katon techniques having much of an effect, and Saskue hasn't really used my Genjutsu.

Around the Finals: It would be a close call, but I would say Saskue would edge out.

The fact that Neji's moves are blood line limits means that Sasuke can not copy any of Neji's moves, however Saskue can still predict and counter Neji's moves....making it harder for Neji to land a blow on Saskue. The fact that Saskue under went Tajutsu and speed training would greatly help Saskue.

I think it would come down to Saskue predicting, feinting, and timing his Chidori/any other attack so he can get inside Neji's whirlwind. As long as Saskue can maintain his distance with his speed he will be ok until he can set up the finishing blow.


After the time-skip- Saskue wins. While I am sure Neji has improved, Oro. has a vested interest in making Saskue THE baddest dude alive. That and if Saskue can learn hypnosis with his Sharingun, it would be all over. 359 degree vision just means Saskue can hypnotize you from almost any angle. It would be hard for Neji to use his eyes to attack if they were to be used against him.

[KageNaruto]

nice evalutation but.... does 2 tomoe (is that how you spell/say it?) sharingan predict movements. cause the third mark appearing is when the prediction was introduced.

so in the chuunin finals he still cant predict movements (well as good at least)

and does gengitsu work on byakugan? i always though tit didnt unless its like super poerful or something

[Shu2jack]

When Saskue first got his Sharingun, he was able to start seeing Haku's movements. Maybe not quite predicting them, but he was able to see what was coming.

When Kakashi first went up againt Itachi, Itachi mentioned somethingn about Kakashi have "good insight" about what was going to happen. Even though Saskue's Sharingan isn't that advanced, I think it still gives him a faster reaction time to his enemy's movements and would allow him to get inside Neji's whirlwind after setting him up.

[Uchiha Adrian]

LOL no chance in hell he would.

[y.o.]

yeah thats not even possible!! The whirlwind is a complete shield pretty much up, down, left, right, front, and back!! Theres no getting around it! And sauske has mastered sharingan now! His is as powerful as kakashis or itachis! But it wont help against kaiten

[KageNaruto]

i highly doubt its as powerful as itachi's

[y.o.]

Once sharingan has 2 tome its mastered no matter how powerful the person is who has it, they do the same thing basically cast genjutsu, copy techniques, predicte movement, and see through gen, tai, and ninjutsu!! So what can Itachis do that Sauske's cant now??

[Hiyo]

He still have to practice techniques and train to get the speed. Itachi has been fighting with S-rank nins so he likely picked up a lot of good training with high class ninjas. Then again maybe not :P

[y.o.]

But it has nothin to do w/ the eye itself, once you get all three tome, all sharingan are equal, the strenth of the users are different, and in Itachis case the ability to go another lvl is irrelevant to a 3 tome sharingan

[kjrav]

true, but in truth itachi's sharingan is weaker and stronger than sasuke's stronger cause he has Mangekyou but weaker b/c his sight has deteriated so much that the sharingan's ability of perception is almost usless now.

[y.o.]

How would you know that??

[KageNaruto]

it was stated in the manga

[kjrav]

How would you know that??


??? how do I Know what? :?:

[KageNaruto]

i think he means how do yuo know that itachi's eyesight deteriated.

and it was said in the manga, try reading the manga y.o.

[kjrav]

yeah cause like he can only see a few feet in front of him os somthing like that right?

[KageNaruto]

as far as i nkow of.... no.

its just that kakshi says "so itachi how much has your eyesight deteriated since we last met" or something like that and some other info was said

[y.o.]

That Itachis reg eye have detiorated so much! I think there on the verge of going, but far from gone!

[Hellchild915]

Yeah I dont think he will have reg.eye's if he has his sharigan on all the time it will probably take over

[y.o.]

they can still go to thier normal eyes, but It would be much better to leave them on if they only use a very small amount of chakra!

Imagine how the world would look if you can see through all the BS, and predicte everyones movement all the time!!

[Hellchild915]

that would be great but to me it looked like sharigan hurt but I guess you get used to

[y.o.]

I wonder why none of the other uchiha members had theres activated all the time like Itachi, and Sauske now!?!?

[Hiyo]

The other member we saw were in the village. No really reason to have sharingan on in the village.

[RandomGuy]

YOur an ass for pointing out that none of us ever seen chidori penetrate thorugh Kaiten????

0_o

I be glad to call you an ass.....

anyway the reason it Kaiten will have a slim chance of deflecting it is because it's nothing but chakra with no shape.... It spins thats all...

CHidori is sharp and was able to penetrate through Garras sand which was deeply concentrated with chakra..

Even if the cheesy Kaiten deflects the chidori what makes you think Sasuke won't whoop his ass...

In fact Sasuke may not even do a jutsu against Neji...
Its pretty sad that you have to bring in personal attacks when were just talking about fictional characters here. Unless you have some sort of intimate bond with Sasuke, I dont think what Im saying warrants any sort of hostility.

[y.o.]

Why did he call kaiten cheesy! Damn he made this personal

[Shu2jack]

yeah thats not even possible!! The whirlwind is a complete shield pretty much up, down, left, right, front, and back!! Theres no getting around it! And sauske has mastered sharingan now! His is as powerful as kakashis or itachis! But it wont help against kaiten

Saskue doesn't have to penetrate the shield. How do you think Naruo was able to defeat Neji's shield? He attacked so quickly that Neji didn't have time for the full technique. That is the key. Since Saskue has greater insight and is able to more clearly see his opponent's movements, Saskue can time his attacks and movements with that of Neji's. Saskue has shown in his fights that he can plan far ahead and set an opponent up. He does it with he uses those wires he eventually sets on fire. (Like when he fought Oro. in the forest of death). He just needs to set Neji up. Either get him right before/as he is starting the whirl, or get Neji to start up the whirl and get him as he finishes his spin.


And no, Saskue's Sharingan is not as strong as Itachi's, and I doubt Kakashi's at the time of the Chunnin exam, but Saskue has shown he is able to read and adapt against the movements of superior enemies. (Oro and Haku)


About Itachi's eyesight....Is it the Sharingan itself that is causing his blindness, is it the fact he has his Sharingan on all the time that is doing it (meaning that using the Sharingan anytime starts to destroy your eyesight-so most Uchiha only use it when they really need it in battle), or is it Itachi's hypnosis abilities that are causing his blindness?

[kjrav]

O.k. a few flaws in your argument.Since Negi has bayukagan he has the better insight not Sasuke kakshi even said Bayukagan has better insight than Sharingan.And while Sasuke is a Genius so is Negi so that Kinda cancels out since neji will be able to see through most of his traps and Jutsus.The reasons Narutos trap truly worked was that Negi underestimated him.

And sharingan dosn't deteriate sight Mangekyou does.

[y.o.]

A few flaws, I see gapping holes, naruto didnt even do it on purpose he just charged right, and sauske doesnt know that anyway, I can go on and on but I dont feel like it!

[KageNaruto]

yeah thats not even possible!! The whirlwind is a complete shield pretty much up, down, left, right, front, and back!! Theres no getting around it! And sauske has mastered sharingan now! His is as powerful as kakashis or itachis! But it wont help against kaiten

Saskue doesn't have to penetrate the shield. How do you think Naruo was able to defeat Neji's shield? He attacked so quickly that Neji didn't have time for the full technique. That is the key. Since Saskue has greater insight and is able to more clearly see his opponent's movements, Saskue can time his attacks and movements with that of Neji's. Saskue has shown in his fights that he can plan far ahead and set an opponent up. He does it with he uses those wires he eventually sets on fire. (Like when he fought Oro. in the forest of death). He just needs to set Neji up. Either get him right before/as he is starting the whirl, or get Neji to start up the whirl and get him as he finishes his spin.


And no, Saskue's Sharingan is not as strong as Itachi's, and I doubt Kakashi's at the time of the Chunnin exam, but Saskue has shown he is able to read and adapt against the movements of superior enemies. (Oro and Haku)


About Itachi's eyesight....Is it the Sharingan itself that is causing his blindness, is it the fact he has his Sharingan on all the time that is doing it (meaning that using the Sharingan anytime starts to destroy your eyesight-so most Uchiha only use it when they really need it in battle), or is it Itachi's hypnosis abilities that are causing his blindness?

this is the manga section. in the manga sasuke never actually tied oro or naruto up. that wire move was totoally made up. sorry but you should only use the manga in the manga section, what sasuke did to oro involved wire but was really different

[y.o.]

I didnt even feel like readin all that after I read his 1st pharagragh, seemed like he didnt know what he was talking about

Kage I have to give you credit, I usually get the manga and anime confused, and you point out everything that didnt happen, including myself!

[KageNaruto]

lol yeah im sually really picky on whats been altered.

however until somebody said it i didnt know that 128 strikes was a filler move (it explaine dto me why the stance was so funky)

i read most of the manga but not all of it, but i still know most of the differences

[y.o.]

I have, and you caught me saying that 128 was in the mange!

[Hellchild915]

I never even noticed that the 128 hit jutsu was only in the anime

[Shu2jack]

O.k. a few flaws in your argument.Since Negi has bayukagan he has the better insight not Sasuke kakshi even said Bayukagan has better insight than Sharingan.And while Sasuke is a Genius so is Negi so that Kinda cancels out since neji will be able to see through most of his traps and Jutsus.The reasons Narutos trap truly worked was that Negi underestimated him.

No flaw in the argument at all. Neji's insight deals with a person's intentions and motives. Saskue's insight deals with an opponent's movement. This is why Kakashi is able to do what he does to opponents. The Sharingan allows him insight into his opponent and allows him to eventually put "suggestions" into what he does.

Neji can see through all the traps he wants. If something is a threat he still have to avoid it. Neji's blood line does not allow him to instantly win any chess match. It is all in the strategy.

A few flaws, I see gapping holes, naruto didnt even do it on purpose he just charged right, and sauske doesnt know that anyway, I can go on and on but I dont feel like it!

The fact that Naruto did it on accident does not mean it doesn't work. Obviously it does work if you can catch Neji off guard. That is why I mentioned that if Saskue can use his speed and keep his distance when he needs to he can win. It would allow him to feel Neji and his abilities out.


this is the manga section. in the manga sasuke never actually tied oro or naruto up. that wire move was totoally made up. sorry but you should only use the manga in the manga section, what sasuke did to oro involved wire but was really different

I'll have to reread that part of the manga, but from what I remembered, Saskue knew where to place the wire and manuver Oro. into a position.


I didnt even feel like readin all that after I read his 1st pharagragh, seemed like he didnt know what he was talking about

Probably because you don't understand what I am talking about. :wink:

[y.o.]

probley cause he doesnt understand alot!!

[Shu2jack]

I'm sure reading comprehension has a lot to do with it. :P

[y.o.]

His mom never got him hooked on phonics, it not his fault!!

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Hey,lol, let the poor guy and stop being mean, back on topic, neji wins.

[Shu2jack]

His mom never got him hooked on phonics, it not his fault!!

I suppose I should take it as a compliment that I never needed hooked on phonics.

[KageNaruto]

lol neither did i and i never even knew a single word of english till i was 8!

high five!!

[RandomGuy]

Lol who said Neji's insight only deals with intentions and motives? Sharingan can only predict movements well and see chakra movement to a small extent. Byakugan sees everything anywhere. Byakugans potential to predict chakra surpasses Sharingan, and I would imagine with Byakugan's attention to detail, a Hyuuga could learn to predict movements nearly as well as a Sharingan user.

Sharingan will not work at all vs Neji, unless its dealing with movements. Neji doesn't have to look into Sasuke's eyes, Sasuke will only be able to use Sharingan to predict movements against Neji. And who says Sasuke's strategy is better than Nejis? Theyre both geniuses, cant really judge that.

Second of all, Naruto was only able to get through Kaiten because of the insane amount of power Kyuubi gave him. Sure if were counting CS lvl 2, yea Sasuke could probably do the same thing, but with just chidori, thats a precision strike, not overwhelming power. Also, like other people said, Neji was underestimating Naruto, something hes not gonna do again for anyone.

Yea, manga also had Sasuke using wires against Oro, but kinda useless argument since Oro was obviously going easy vs Sasuke. Also, Kaiten and Byakugan would make it pretty useless.

[y.o.]

since when did byakuugan predict chakra, I didnt even know such a thing exsisted!!

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

yes, that was kinda weird to say, predict chakra, i wonder how he did that?

[Shu2jack]

Random Guy, good post.

Lol who said Neji's insight only deals with intentions and motives? Sharingan can only predict movements well and see chakra movement to a small extent. Byakugan sees everything anywhere. Byakugans potential to predict chakra surpasses Sharingan, and I would imagine with Byakugan's attention to detail, a Hyuuga could learn to predict movements nearly as well as a Sharingan user.

Neji has never shown the ability to predict movements. It merely allows him to see all movements as they happen. He couldn't predict movements anymore more than what a trained fighter could.

Sharingan will not work at all vs Neji, unless its dealing with movements. Neji doesn't have to look into Sasuke's eyes, Sasuke will only be able to use Sharingan to predict movements against Neji. And who says Sasuke's strategy is better than Nejis? Theyre both geniuses, cant really judge that.

You are right on the strategy part, but my money is still on Saskue. Neji relys on his Byakun and Bloot Limit abilities to disable and negate his opponent's attacks or ability to attack. It doesn't require THAT much strategy when compared to the Saskue's ability. Instead of just negating his opponent's attacks, Saskue predicts them, can see them coming, and uses them against his opponents. I think this gives him the advantage.

Second of all, Naruto was only able to get through Kaiten because of the insane amount of power Kyuubi gave him. Sure if were counting CS lvl 2, yea Sasuke could probably do the same thing, but with just chidori, thats a precision strike, not overwhelming power. Also, like other people said, Neji was underestimating Naruto, something hes not gonna do again for anyone.

Good point. But like I said, if Saskue can time it right and use his ability to set people up, he can get inside Neji's defenses.

Yea, manga also had Sasuke using wires against Oro, but kinda useless argument since Oro was obviously going easy vs Sasuke. Also, Kaiten and Byakugan would make it pretty useless.

Kaiten and Byakugan would make the same tactic worthless, but now the ability to set people up like that worthless.


These posts are getting way to long. Lets just agree to disagree and hope that Neji and Saskue duke it out before the series is over!

[KageNaruto]

2 lazy to read everything, but neji can detect movement. thats basicly the same thing as predicting, he can see what angle what strength how fast they are coming etc, and can synch his counter move against the oppoenent. basicly same as predicting

[Shu2jack]

2 lazy to read everything, but neji can detect movement. thats basicly the same thing as predicting, he can see what angle what strength how fast they are coming etc, and can synch his counter move against the oppoenent. basicly same as predicting

Detect =/= predict.

Its the difference between seeing the cross coming towards your head and seeing the cross comihng towards your head and knowing the back leg round kick is coming due to the shift in weight, hip rotation, position of the feet, etc. Or in Saskue's case, the Sharingan allowing him to know what is coming.

[y.o.]

So whats your argument??

[Hiyo]

I've never noticed anything about Neji being able to predict movement before it happens. 359 degree vision, being able to see chakra and chakra holes, being able to scan over lot distances... pretty much just normal vision abilities. Sharingan lets you see an image of where the oppotent it headed proir to moving there.. I never notice anything about that with Neji.

[y.o.]

thats why I say byakuugan=super vision
Sharingan=new abilities/and vision

[imported_Greenlitflag]

Assuming their just fighting face to face, I don't see how having byakugan will be superior to being able to physically see the attack (definitively seeing the outcome of their attack/next move, assuming they aren't attacking with chakra like naruto) coming at you. Fighting someone like Lee who has a habit of attacking from every angle though, would be best suited for byakugan. Though, even if the byakugan allows you to see more, your blocks and counters will just be educated guesses like with anyone else.

[Shu2jack]

So whats your argument??

Didn't you tell me earlier that you didn't read all of one (or more) of my post(s)? I don't feel like repeating myself.

[KageNaruto]

i still think byakugan has about as good prediction as the sharingan.

and you guys are confusing

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

ah! so you are sayin that sharingan is as good in prediction than sharingan, lol!

[KageNaruto]

lol, sorry DMRL, its edited now. wow i make so many mistakes

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

it's alright, i knew it was a mistake but still it was too funny to pass out that occasion. and by the way, neji wins!

[Kyuubi_Naruto]

Haha I just changed the tide! I voted Sasuke. Insane curse seal level two!!

[y.o.]

Were was it ever said that byakuugan predicts movement? It can see 360 but I dought it can predict movement!!

[Hiyo]

i still think byakugan has about as good prediction as the sharingan.

and you guys are confusing

where is it every statement that byakugan predicts anything? I doubt remember anything about that at all. By being able to watch chakra flow you could predict someone was about to use a jitsu or predict they are going to do something if they move chakra to a differnet part of thier body... that's about it. Sharingan gives quite an advantage with it's prediction.

[y.o.]

Its has never been stated anywere that byakugan prdicts movement! Kage just made that up, for what reason I dont know!

[CRtwenty]

Yea, the Byukagon doesn't read movement.

[RandomGuy]

Well, the idea that Byakugan can predict movement is really just speculation, but it has some support to it. Someone using Byakugan can see the person hes fighting in incredible detail, much more detail than a normal person can. So in theory, if someone like Neji has been fighting people for a long time, he could notice the subtle movements in someones body to be able to predict what movement hes gonna make due to his incredible attention to detail and a lot of fighting experience. However, Sharingans ability to predict movements is better because its done automatically and shows the user whats gonna happen.

I didn't mean "predict chakra", I meant that Neji has predicted jutsus before just by looking at chakra flow while Sharingan has no such capability with jutsus.

Anyway I kinda agree with Shu2jack. I could argue against him but I dont think wed get anywhere =\. Lets just hope this fight happens sometime.

[CRtwenty]

Yes, but the Byukagon doesn't give Neji any advantage over somebody without it in that respect. Any trained fighter will eventually learn how to predict his opponents movements. Having the Byukagon won't change that.

[imported_Greenlitflag]

It's like I said in my other post, when it comes to predicting byakugan will still only have an educated guess when it comes to predicting the enemies attack. But this isn't about B vs S.

[Ichee]

GOD DAMN.....

Yall was bored as shit........

3 pages just from yesterday damn.........

[Sei uchiha]

i think probably neji would win if they are still studying, but now I think sasuke would win, because he can atac at a distance, and neji is the best in close combat, but not on far combat

[y.o.]

Sauske fights from a distance anyway, he doesnt like to get his hands dirty unless hes forced into a close combat fight!!

[Hiyo]

We already saw that Neji can stop just about anything from a distance. That spider guy had an exceptional ranged weapon... sasuke doesn't.

[Corcoran]

Neji was stronger during the chuunin exam, but Sasuke surpassed him.

Now Sasuke > Neji, period.

[RandomGuy]

Not necessarily....

[Valleyman]

Not necessarily....

I think it's safe to say Sasuke is stronger than Neji now(Though I hate Sasuke). He has Sharingan and has been training under Orochimaru, a Sannin, for these years he's been gone.

[AK47]

yea i think neji is just below him though cuz neji trained too

[Valleyman]

yea i think neji is just below him though cuz neji trained too

Listen. I said He's been training under Orochimaru. A Sannin.

[AK47]

yea i think neji is just below him though cuz neji trained too

Listen. I said He's been training under Orochimaru. A Sannin.
listen i said that neji is just below him so i'm saying that sasuke is stronger