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Canthinkofaname
03-19-2006, 05:02 AM
p.s. i made this thread in anime zone but since weve barely seen kisame in anime its better here

Kisame the fish
VS
Itachi the uchiha

y.o.
03-19-2006, 07:13 AM
Well tthe fact that kisame said himself b4 they fought jariaya, "maybe you can fight him equally, but I cannot" makes it clear who is stronger! Even thought I like kisame he basically says himself that itachi is stronger

KageNaruto
03-19-2006, 05:10 PM
and oro said itachi was stronger than him, yet itachi coulnt fight jiraiya. sure sure suure.

kisame's skill at 30% was incredible compared to itachi, kisame the fishi ownz, open your eyes!

Canthinkofaname
03-19-2006, 06:54 PM
KISAME WILL MURDER ITACHI
fish > uchiha

AK47
03-19-2006, 07:15 PM
does kisame have one of the demons inside him?
that fish demon?
if he does he will whoop uchiha itachi's ass
even if he doesn't he would still woop his ass

Canthinkofaname
03-19-2006, 07:35 PM
its not a demon its a bijuu
its not a fish its a shark
theres theroies about him having it
hell kick his ass either way

KageNaruto
03-19-2006, 07:42 PM
well, kisame woulda basicly killed team gai if gai didnt open the 6th gate right there and then.

all itachi did was trap naruto in a gengitsu.

kisame kisame kisame!!!!!!!!

AK47
03-19-2006, 07:42 PM
cant you just assume i said that he is a "shark bijuu"
bijuu and demon are the same thing
anyways kisame was going crazy with Gai with only 30% chakra and he was owning two chuunin, and two jounin. but eventually he lost
he would kick ass though if he was a hundy %

regina777
03-19-2006, 08:22 PM
what is not definate about this match up is we know soo little of kisame. Among the akatsuki he is revered as having bountiful supply of chakra. and yet in their little encounter with jiraiya irrespective of what itachi said it was itachi who helped them escape from the frogs stomach.

i really cant put my finger on who is better or is going to win. itachi with his MS or Kisame with his samehada and loads of chakra.
one thing that should be considered is that itachi may be able to copy or already know most of kisame's moves since they are partners.

AK47
03-19-2006, 08:25 PM
yea that and most of his own jutsus
like how they got out of the frog
i wonder what would happen if itachi used that on a person

Canthinkofaname
03-19-2006, 10:17 PM
yeah amaterasu they said can onlybe put out by a specific fuuinjutsu that jiraiya used and maybe hed use tsukiyomi on him

y.o.
03-20-2006, 12:21 AM
let me let you all in on a little secret, if you know your opponet in the word of naruto, 9 times out of 10, they will devise a strategy to beat them

1st exsample, zabuza after the 1st fight w/ kakashi
well......... actually I dont feel like putting 10 exsample up but you should get the general idea, the reason I bring that up is cause kakashi fought itachi b4 and was well prepared for him, gai never seen kisame fight, neither did anyone from his team, therefore they didnt know what to expect, and got caught, thats why kisame beat them the way he did, and Itachi didnt look so good!

AK47
03-20-2006, 02:03 AM
kakashi knew what to expect from itachii this time cuz he fought him before
so he strategized before going on the mission and trained his shariingan knowing that only the sharingan can beat a sharingan
and gai didn't know kisame's techniques that's wh ythey wer losing
i think i get it

y.o.
03-20-2006, 03:00 AM
basically, so that fight made kisame look alot more dominating than tha fight that itachi had! Im not taking anything away from kisame hes one of my favorites but he seems to be itachis subordinate, tha same way diedra was sasoris, and he said sasori was alot more powerful than he was, so thats why I think itachi is stronger, itachi also knows about samihadaso when molding any chakra he will keep his distance!

KageNaruto
03-20-2006, 05:36 AM
lol now i really wanna see kakashi and naruto vs kisame and team gai vs itachi

y.o.
03-20-2006, 06:35 AM
I think Kakashi and naruto would own Kisame, Kakashi would counter most if not all his suiton jutsus, the only advantage kisame would have would be kakashi dont know that samihada devours chakra but naruto is right there to tell him!! And same for gai, vs Itachi he has to fight nothing but stong taijutsu specialist, and a weapons specialist, and we would also see byakugan vs sharingan, but I think gai, and lee would own him w/o neji, but dont hurt to have neji in your corner!

Mousie
03-20-2006, 06:36 AM
I vote itachi...just because hes hawt XD

y.o.
03-20-2006, 06:51 AM
Uhhhh!! I dont even think that matters in a life and death battle but.......

And you want sakura dead too, whats the naruto world going to, I cant see how people dont like her, especially now

Ichee
03-20-2006, 03:34 PM
I think Kakashi and naruto would own Kisame, Kakashi would counter most if not all his suiton jutsus, the only advantage kisame would have would be kakashi dont know that samihada devours chakra but naruto is right there to tell him!! And same for gai, vs Itachi he has to fight nothing but stong taijutsu specialist, and a weapons specialist, and we would also see byakugan vs sharingan, but I think gai, and lee would own him w/o neji, but dont hurt to have neji in your corner!

WTF..... -_-

that is the noobest answer I saw( I hope you was being sarcastic)

Itachi has sharingan so he can see their moves coming before they happen.

Also you never really see Itachi fight.....

He doesn't even try when he fights....

Kisame is strong as shit and Itachi I feel is superoir
but Kisame is very close and Itachi has stronger jutsus.

So.... -_-

Basically Itachi ownz

Also Kakashi might beat Kisame but I have a 60% feeling that Kisame will kill him but Kisame will suffer many injuries....

kjrav
03-20-2006, 06:05 PM
I think Kisame would have a really good shot Mangekyou consumes alot of chackra and sameheda consumes chakra so Itachi would have to end it quickly but im sure Itachi has a few tricks up his sleeve.

AK47
03-20-2006, 07:21 PM
mangekyou doesn't consume chakra does it?
i thought that if kakashi uses it, it does because he ain't uchiha blood

kjrav
03-20-2006, 07:23 PM
yeah Magekyou consumes a hell of alot of chackra and causes sight to deteriate over time.

KageNaruto
03-20-2006, 09:40 PM
mangekyou doesn't consume chakra does it?
i thought that if kakashi uses it, it does because he ain't uchiha blood

lol why do you think itachi can only use it 2-3 times a day?

AK47
03-20-2006, 09:49 PM
cuz he has other things to do
like have group showers with akatsuki

Katonsasuke
03-20-2006, 10:18 PM
I just somehow get the impression that kisame is a lot more experienced and older than Itachi is. I'm not sure how I'm getting that impression but I feel that Kisame is stronger than in terms of experience.
The two have very different styles when it comes to fighting though. Itachi relies much on genjutsu and his sharingan while Kisame relies on his water techniques and his sword.

Either way, in my perspective, kisame has a slight edge over Itachi.

KageNaruto
03-20-2006, 10:25 PM
woot high five katonsasuke! kisame the fishi ownz!

and yeah i think kisame is at least in his 40s, does anybody know his age?

AK47
03-20-2006, 10:48 PM
he is more like two years old
cuz fish's life span is short so i'm thinkin.... jk
YES KISAME OWNS
uh huh ki-sa-meehhh~

Hellchild915
03-20-2006, 10:51 PM
He is 29 and no I didnt make it up

AK47
03-20-2006, 10:57 PM
did you make that u....
yes kisame ownz y'all up in the hizzle and the jazzy fizzle

Hellchild915
03-20-2006, 10:59 PM
No I did not I read it here http://leafninja.com/index.php
it said he was 29

KageNaruto
03-20-2006, 11:06 PM
No I did not I read it here http://leafninja.com/index.php
it said he was 29

wow in my opinon he looks a lot older

Hellchild915
03-20-2006, 11:07 PM
Yeah I though he was going to be aleast in his late 30's

AK47
03-20-2006, 11:14 PM
well you cant tell the age of a fish
jk
he probably looked like that his whole life
and villagers would keep on making fun of him
that is why he killed so many people

y.o.
03-21-2006, 12:25 AM
I think Kakashi and naruto would own Kisame, Kakashi would counter most if not all his suiton jutsus, the only advantage kisame would have would be kakashi dont know that samihada devours chakra but naruto is right there to tell him!! And same for gai, vs Itachi he has to fight nothing but stong taijutsu specialist, and a weapons specialist, and we would also see byakugan vs sharingan, but I think gai, and lee would own him w/o neji, but dont hurt to have neji in your corner!

WTF..... -_-

that is the noobest answer I saw( I hope you was being sarcastic)

Itachi has sharingan so he can see their moves coming before they happen.

Also you never really see Itachi fight.....

He doesn't even try when he fights....

Kisame is strong as shit and Itachi I feel is superoir
but Kisame is very close and Itachi has stronger jutsus.

So.... -_-

Basically Itachi ownz

Also Kakashi might beat Kisame but I have a 60% feeling that Kisame will kill him but Kisame will suffer many injuries....

You got some nerve tryin to insult me by callin me a noob!! 1st off as lee explains it, doesnt matter if you can see it if you cant react fast enough, Basically as fast as those 2 move there's no way itachi can dodge everything, same as w/ neji and his byaukugan he can precieve every attack in a 50 meter radius, dont mean he can dodge all of the attacks, not to mention neji!! Your a noob, and you just proved it w/ that post!!

Glorious Ular
03-21-2006, 12:42 AM
Exactly! Theres no proof that Gai couldnt beat Itachi. Itachi would forsure hurt Gai in many ways but Gai already knows the defence against Mange so he pretty good till that point. And secondly Rock Lee wasted Sasuke and sasuke was using his sharingan. just becasue you can see everything doesnt mean you can block it in time.
And Thirdly Kakashi has a good chance against kisame at this point in the manga so i would think that naruto and him would be a good match. Kakashi would be able to copy most of Kisame's jutsu's and possibly counter them like he did with Zabuza. And im sure naruto would be doing some fast ass fighting.

And Ichee please dont be calling people noobs in relation to their posts and without knowing how much they actually know.

y.o.
03-21-2006, 01:25 AM
I think either way they will be good fights but konoha nins have a very good chance of winning

AK47
03-21-2006, 01:25 AM
ya if gai did that sleep mode that rock lee did then he wouldn't have to look into itachi's eyes

y.o.
03-21-2006, 01:52 AM
I wonder if gai can use drunken boxing, I think that for the future lee should take a bottle of sake on all his missions in his nin bag,

just like any other reg kunai, it should be treated as a weapon, like food pill, matter of fact I wonder what effect sake and a food pill combo would do for lee???

AK47
03-21-2006, 01:55 AM
yah they should but then the sake would be like the kyuubi
u can't control it in a funny way at least

y.o.
03-21-2006, 02:07 AM
He doesnt need to control it, but thats a very good analogy, b/c at 1st he probley cant tell friend or foe, and will attack everyone like he did at the bar but you can get used to alcohol so its effects wont be as bad!! The same as kyuubi, possibly!!

AK47
03-21-2006, 08:00 PM
man i wish they would acknowledge rock lee for his drunken master skills, so they could train him or something
but then his liver wil shrink and shrink and shrink and ....

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
03-21-2006, 08:15 PM
y.o. Gai is no drunken fighter like Lee, remember when he was talking about it to tsunade, he said that lee drank a bit of his sake so it probably has no effect on him.

AK47
03-21-2006, 08:24 PM
we were just saying that gai would be crazy with the drunken form
but i was talking about lee on my last post
oops wrong topic
kisame is stronger

gerbster11
03-22-2006, 02:48 AM
(i'm probably asking for it, but) I can understand that Kisame is cool, but he would get his a$$ handed to him. I havent seen any hard evidence that Kisame has a Shark demon inside him. But when they were near Konoha Itachi told Kisame not too fight Kakashi because he would get injured. So imagine him fighting Itachi? He would have any jutsu countered and before he could even get close to use his sword or any taijutsu he would be caught in genjutsu, or simply countered with sharingan.. advantage Itachi....boo-ya

Glorious Ular
03-22-2006, 03:41 AM
True and i know that Itachi is stronger, but i know that Kisame is smarter than that and knows Itachi's fighting style. So it could take longer for Itachi to kill him.

RandomGuy
03-22-2006, 04:08 AM
I doubt Gai could beat Itachi without gates. Any time people talk about Itachi in a fight, its always centered around Mangekyou. You guys forget that hes adept at everything else and is especially strong in jutsus. He seems to love genjutsu, his ninjutsus are unreadably fast, and his taijutsu is pretty decent too. He seems pretty unrivalled in ninjutsu and genjutsu, but I dunno bout his taijutsu. Weve seen that he kicked Kurenai and Sasuke's asses and was on par with Kakashi in taijutsu, but other than that i dunno. Either way, I think Mangekyou is just a kind of finisher that hell use if hes in a fix or just feels like doing it quick.

y.o.
03-22-2006, 12:31 PM
Thats all true except were do you get he was on par w/ kakashi in taijutsu from??

I agree that people dont usually speak about Itachi and his other skills outside of mange, but thats due to its strenth

This would be a good fight though a kanton user vs suiton, who know each other, I seriously dought that kisame would get caught in any of Itachi's genjutsus so he would have to use nin and taijustus to make for a great fight!!

Glorious Ular
03-23-2006, 12:40 AM
Ya i dont remember a time when Kakashi went hand to hand with Itachi, thats just suicide! I mean stay as far away. like when sasuke got too close he got wasted. broke his arm with one hand!

AK47
03-23-2006, 01:06 AM
yea when he broke sasuke's hand i was like holy crap itachi is one krzy mofo

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
03-23-2006, 02:03 AM
Bof. The hand broking was nothing compared to what he made him after with the mangekyou sharingan.

Canthinkofaname
03-23-2006, 03:05 AM
indeed

RandomGuy
03-23-2006, 03:32 AM
Actually I think I might be going a bit far when I say that Kakashi is on par with Itachi hand to hand. I was thinking of when Kakashi, Chiyo, Naruto, and Sakura fought the 30% power Itachi clone, so of course Kakashi could hold him off. Even during the fight, though, I might be wrong but I think Itachi was the first one to use Genjutsu while hes fighting with Taijutsu.

In any case, Itachi is damn strong.


Oh yea, a little more on topic, isn't Itachi kinda the one in charge when it comes to the pair? I mean, we always see Itachi giving the orders

y.o.
03-23-2006, 07:30 AM
Yes he is!! and Itachi being strong was never questioned by anyone!!

I wanna see how good Iachis taijutsu really is, he seems not to want to use it, but being as good as he is Im sure hes verry good at it, its just that genjutsu is easier and he doesnt have to actually engae his enemy and risk injury!!

kjrav
03-23-2006, 03:10 PM
but his mangekyou genjutsu which is the only one I have seen him use dameges him and I think its more of a Itachi is the leash than him really being superior.

yordady
03-27-2006, 06:41 AM
itachi cus he has mangeko that wil make kisame crazy :p

Glorious Ular
03-28-2006, 03:06 AM
^^^Haha, first learn to spell then learn to make a good point!

when Kakashi, Chiyo, Naruto, and Sakura fought the 30% power Itachi clone

Well i recently read something that said that said Kisame's clone had only 30% chakra and had the same chakra output as when naruto fought neji! Because neji could read kisame's clone chakra and said it was equal to naruto's.

steve
03-28-2006, 04:31 AM
fuk u ular y dont u go 2 hell i dont tell u how u shud post so y dont you just fuk a tree

I support everything this ... fellow... just said. All your balls are belong to tree

... Im pretty sure Ive got a new favorite person on the forums

^^^Haha, first learn to spell then learn to make a good point!


I think thats supposed to imply that kisame is strong. I still think that simpsons guy from the recent naruto filler arc would kick his ass if he was in fish mode. Man, spike-ed teeth, waterballs, and even spike shooting skin.
BOW DOWN>

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
03-28-2006, 09:07 AM
LOL steve, just because he looks like a simpson doesn't make him strong dude, and I know you were kidding but you gotta stop idolizing this guy!

KageNaruto
03-28-2006, 10:10 PM
i dont think itachi gives kisame orders because hes in charge. kisame seems to have a fish brain and not be very bright, he alos seems a bit berserk like when he fights. i think he has a bashful nature and isnt too smart in planning so thats left to itachi

kjrav
03-28-2006, 10:16 PM
Thats what I meant I just aint wanna say it in so many words.

Glorious Ular
03-30-2006, 01:33 AM
Ya Kisame always seems antsy to fight. like when Itachi and kisame came ti konoha and how he wanted to fight Jiariya and kakashi and all them. But Itachi knew it has to much of a risk.

CRtwenty
03-30-2006, 05:12 AM
Kisame is very bloodthirsty, that's one of his main weaknesses. He doesn't like to run from a fight, no matter what the odds are.

y.o.
03-30-2006, 08:56 AM
Ya Kisame always seems antsy to fight. like when Itachi and kisame came ti konoha and how he wanted to fight Jiariya and kakashi and all them. But Itachi knew it has to much of a risk.

He wasnt all that antsy to fight jarya at all, he even said that his title is petty compared to him, and that Itachi could fight him equally but he could not! So he knows his limitations, and knows what fights to avoid!

Mudkipz
04-06-2006, 09:43 PM
Itachi would kill Kisame because:
1. Amaterasu: Kill any1 (i think)
2: Goukakyuu no Jutsu: Make fried Fish

KageNaruto
04-06-2006, 09:52 PM
that is the worst argument ive seen in a while

p.s. fire is weak to water

Canthinkofaname
04-12-2006, 12:59 AM
of course fire is weak to water but ice is weak to fire and ice is a form of water so its the infinite circle
water>fire>ice

AK47
04-12-2006, 01:14 AM
of course fire is weak to water but ice is weak to fire and ice is a form of water so its the infinite circle
water>fire>ice
i always get mixed up with you and chidori cuz of your avatar
and it depends on the ice and fire
ice can be stronger than fire if the jutsu user uses a stronger ice jutsu and other guy uses weak fire jutsu

y.o.
04-12-2006, 01:28 AM
well thanks for pointing that out CAPT OBVIOUS!! No one here could have possibly come up W/ that conclusion on thier own!!

kjrav
04-12-2006, 01:29 AM
yeah like Sauskes fire jutsu(forgot the name)vs.Haku's Ice Mirrors.

AK47
04-12-2006, 02:27 AM
well thanks for pointing that out CAPT OBVIOUS!! No one here could have possibly come up W/ that conclusion on thier own!!
yo you can be my son
and i have to state the obvious so people like you can understand
and it's obvious too that fire melts water and water puts out fire so just don't post anything if you can't say anything about it
some people who just can't hold their mouths

KageNaruto
04-12-2006, 02:29 AM
well why would the person freeze the water if he knows itll be beat by the fire anyway!?

AK47
04-12-2006, 02:30 AM
well why would the person freeze the water if he knows itll be beat by the fire anyway!?
dude no one said that

KageNaruto
04-12-2006, 02:30 AM
but the one person went on about water>fire>ice

AK47
04-12-2006, 02:33 AM
i think he meant water beats fire and fire beats ice
but yea he is saying that water is better than ice
but in his point of view he means what i just said

y.o.
04-12-2006, 10:56 AM
well thanks for pointing that out CAPT OBVIOUS!! No one here could have possibly come up W/ that conclusion on thier own!!
yo you can be my son
and i have to state the obvious so people like you can understand
and it's obvious too that fire melts water and water puts out fire so just don't post anything if you can't say anything about it
some people who just can't hold their mouths

I didnt know fire could melt water, I thought it made it evaporate!! Apparently you have to write that to remind yourself, but were not that...... uhhhh whats the word Im looking for.........stupid!

KageNaruto
04-12-2006, 06:31 PM
wtf this thread turned into "fire water and ice"

wow we sure love to get off topic

kjrav
04-12-2006, 06:34 PM
what was the topic on i the first place I forgot?

KageNaruto
04-12-2006, 06:45 PM
kisame vs itachi, and the fish will win

kjrav
04-12-2006, 07:27 PM
Yeah now I remember I voted for Kisame!How did we get talkin' bout Water>Fire>Ice>Water>Fire>Ice

Ichee
04-13-2006, 07:06 PM
I think Kakashi and naruto would own Kisame, Kakashi would counter most if not all his suiton jutsus, the only advantage kisame would have would be kakashi dont know that samihada devours chakra but naruto is right there to tell him!! And same for gai, vs Itachi he has to fight nothing but stong taijutsu specialist, and a weapons specialist, and we would also see byakugan vs sharingan, but I think gai, and lee would own him w/o neji, but dont hurt to have neji in your corner!

WTF..... -_-

that is the noobest answer I saw( I hope you was being sarcastic)

Itachi has sharingan so he can see their moves coming before they happen.

Also you never really see Itachi fight.....

He doesn't even try when he fights....

Kisame is strong as shit and Itachi I feel is superoir
but Kisame is very close and Itachi has stronger jutsus.

So.... -_-

Basically Itachi ownz

Also Kakashi might beat Kisame but I have a 60% feeling that Kisame will kill him but Kisame will suffer many injuries....

You got some nerve tryin to insult me by callin me a noob!! 1st off as lee explains it, doesnt matter if you can see it if you cant react fast enough, Basically as fast as those 2 move there's no way itachi can dodge everything, same as w/ neji and his byaukugan he can precieve every attack in a 50 meter radius, dont mean he can dodge all of the attacks, not to mention neji!! Your a noob, and you just proved it w/ that post!!

:D Hey buddy.....

I wasn't trying to insult you........

I was trying to teach you but I guess you didn't learn anything with that dumb post about Lee telling sasuke about not moving or reacting to the moves he sees because he was too slow to react......

Your basing your facts on old shit....

2 and a half years have passed in the manga and your talking about what lee said to sasuke with an incomplete sharingan.....

DUMBASS

You called me a noob but truthfully I didn't really cared; but I hate when someone try to act as though they understand and know what they're talking about when they don't really fucking know...

-_- (sigh)

Itachi beat Sasuke who was moving at lee speed without trying .....

Come on Gai can't beat Oro and Itachi is stronger than the muthafucka..

Also when it comes to giving orders Itachi always orders Kisame.....

Itachi jutsus are stronger than Kisame's and hes more strategic....

Kisame may have a bigger chakra load than Itachi but he doesn't have better moves...

Also Itachi doesn't even try when he fights he just stands there and sometimes move like two or three feet....

-_-

Come on man you have 2x as post as me and your opinions and arguements are shallow.....

I tried to be nice about it and I'm still am but just leave your mouth closed...

Thank you and have a nice f**king day

:)

KageNaruto
04-13-2006, 07:16 PM
im too lazy to read your whole post.

but sauske was moving no where near lee speed.

if anythig sauske was being a stupid moron who was charging straight at itachi. fatal mistake. sauske was an idiot he wa sjust like "raara itachi chidori wraaaar!"

Ichee
04-13-2006, 07:23 PM
im too lazy to read your whole post.

but sauske was moving no where near lee speed.

if anythig sauske was being a stupid moron who was charging straight at itachi. fatal mistake. sauske was an idiot he wa sjust like "raara itachi chidori wraaaar!"

lol he was yelling like a big dumbass....

but at that time I think Sasuke would had trashed Lee if lee was healed...

KageNaruto
04-13-2006, 07:45 PM
and by the way i read some more of your post. better jutsus dont mean anything, its how you use them is what counts, also you dont even know that itachi's jutsus are better.

second itachis fighting style is one wher ehe doesent move much.

gaara doesent move much either, it doesent mean hes not trying

itachi just acts badass that way plus im sure it intimidate sthe oppoenent

y.o.
04-15-2006, 12:46 AM
I dont have to explain myself to this caliper NOOB! One of the worse kind, the type who thinks they know anything and just sounds dumber when tryin to prove there point!!

kjrav
04-15-2006, 12:57 AM
Yeah !but back on topic it would probally be a close fight but we havn't seen enough of them at their full ability.

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
04-15-2006, 03:00 AM
Yeah, Krjav is right, we have pratically nothing to base this topic on, we saw pratically nothing of them, except a short fight in konoha and a fight with clone of them at only 30%. Plus, they might have jutsus we don't even know the existence now.

Ichee
04-15-2006, 04:33 AM
I dont have to explain myself to this caliper NOOB! One of the worse kind, the type who thinks they know anything and just sounds dumber when tryin to prove there point!!

WOW!!! NERD ALERT.... (always wanted to say that)

what is a caliper noob??? 0_o

lol anyway my bad I didn't mean to say better jutsus I meant better strategic skills...

I think I said that already...

If you look at it Itachi seems to come up with all the plans and battle strategies...

Also y.o you took my line.... lol

-_-

KageNaruto
04-15-2006, 04:41 AM
thats why he is smarter than kisame, but that doesent mean stronger

Ichee
04-15-2006, 05:00 AM
and by the way i read some more of your post. better jutsus dont mean anything, its how you use them is what counts, also you dont even know that itachi's jutsus are better.

second itachis fighting style is one wher ehe doesent move much.

gaara doesent move much either, it doesent mean hes not trying

itachi just acts badass that way plus im sure it intimidate sthe oppoenent

Itachi is a genjutsu type you're right....

but he doesn't have that stand still weakness like Gaara...

He wasn't just standing there doing genjutsus he was doing ninjutsus at lightning speed and Kakashi could barely follow it surprisingly

y.o.
04-15-2006, 01:01 PM
But Im pretty sure if they did fight, Itachi would win, just cause Itachi is a Uchiha, and supposed to be such a bad ass, even though I think that the fish should win, it wouldnt happen!

Same as Sasoris fight there is no way he should have lost, but he was fightin 2 people that just were the right people to beat him! (main characters)

AK47
04-15-2006, 05:14 PM
yea i don't think sasori should've lost
and i thought deidera would lose cuz he/she looked weak assed
i think itachi and kisame are the strongest next to the leader of akatsuki
but overall i think itachi might be the stronger between him and kisame

y.o.
04-15-2006, 05:30 PM
Na, the srongest characters are never introduced 1st, the other members have some $hit up there sleeves, Im really interested in zetsku, and tobi, regardless if he joins or not

urgetopurge
04-15-2006, 05:38 PM
someone probably said this already but Kisame is stronger than Itachi because he has the most chakra in Akatsuki

y.o.
04-15-2006, 05:44 PM
Yea that has been said numerous times, but what I dont understand about that is, the amount of chakra doesnt decide who is stronger, neither does, strenth, intellegence, or how many or how powerful a jutsu is,

its not 1 thing that makes someone strong! Its a combination of all and how they use them which in fact comes down to wisdom and experience,

a perfect exsample is jariya, he was a fuck up like naruto, he doesnt excel in anyone one perticular field, but hes all around good and very wise how he uses his jutsus!

KageNaruto
04-15-2006, 06:16 PM
it doesent come down to wisdom and experience.

it comes down to all those things overall mixed, like you already said, but decided to change it for some reason.

p.s. AK47, you know somehting funny diedara coulda killed the whole sand village if she/he wasnt trying to get gaara alive, jsut fly over it and drop da bomb! lol

y.o.
04-15-2006, 06:24 PM
Let me rephase that last part, ultimaly what I meant, doesnt matter if you have all tha power in the world if you cant harness it, naruto for instance, when he masters kyuubi chakra will be one of the most powerful nin's ever and it takes all those things listed to be a strong, I didnt change it up, its just an idiot w/ a gun can lose to a genius w/ a knife, (bad exsample) but you get the idea!

KageNaruto
04-15-2006, 07:25 PM
but an idiot with enough power can defeat a person no matter how smart he is

and if naruto goes 6 tails no matter how berserk he gets im sure nobody will survive a fight with him

y.o.
04-15-2006, 07:28 PM
Well the 4th might have, he sisnt survive all 9 tails but if it were 1 or 2 tails less, so to speak he might have beat kyuubi! Im not tryin to sound stupid, Im just going by more tails = more power!

AK47
04-15-2006, 08:36 PM
p.s. AK47, you know somehting funny diedara coulda killed the whole sand village if she/he wasnt trying to get gaara alive, jsut fly over it and drop da bomb! lol
lol drop bombs like hiroshima
FRRT!!!!!!!!! i can imagine the birdy dropping poo all over the village
"SH**!!"
"yes it is"
yea and i think that naruto can kill a very intelligent person with the kyuubi
and one of those smart people was orochimaru

y.o.
04-15-2006, 08:49 PM
Just think if it were classic garra he would have let the whole village get blown up, and just killed diedra, I guess compasion is really a weakness

Hellchild915
04-15-2006, 08:50 PM
yeah I think he would have attcked her with full power right away and killed her with one of his giant sand waves

y.o.
04-15-2006, 08:55 PM
I lved the fight agaisnt kimi, but even in that fight that was the start of his compasion, he started to protct lee!!

AK47
04-15-2006, 08:56 PM
it was really unpredictable of what would've happened when deidra dropped that huge a bomb (haha)
i was really surprised that gaara had that massive shield protecting the village (also very impressive)
i would've just ripped out the shikaku and rip out one of those air bombs
(coming from the ass)

y.o.
04-15-2006, 09:00 PM
garra cant do the air bomb, unless he lets shakaku take over, and then the village would be in danger either way

Hellchild915
04-15-2006, 09:02 PM
if he let that thing out the village would be destroyed in a matter of seconds but he would have killed diedra

AK47
04-15-2006, 09:04 PM
he would've killed deidera
then he would kill the whole village HAHAHAHA
if temari was there she would just summon her ferret guy and blow the bombs away......!

KageNaruto
04-15-2006, 09:22 PM
AK47, no. im sorry but now you are sounding just beyond stupid, settle dwon lol

y.o.
04-15-2006, 09:25 PM
I wonder if temari would have stood a better chance against Sasori than Kankaro, since he wasnt anywere near sasori's level of puppetering!

KageNaruto
04-15-2006, 09:27 PM
she would do better but still loose (obviously)

AK47
04-15-2006, 09:27 PM
that's right
i'm sure temari would have lost tho
who is stronger than temari and kankaro im' wondering from the sand village
so if gaara is kazekage what does his teacher make him

y.o.
04-15-2006, 09:42 PM
his teaacher just cant match his strenth even though hes got more experince and knows more jutsus!

KageNaruto
04-15-2006, 10:00 PM
you mean what does it make baki? i think hes a jounin or special jounin, but it looks like he is well respected and iis a high rank in the village as well, especially the fact that he goes to the village meeting thing

hes definitly not just a jounin

y.o.
04-15-2006, 10:19 PM
well there may not be special jounin outside konoha, speaking of which, I just made special jounin

KageNaruto
04-15-2006, 10:27 PM
and speaking of ranks, im a sannin now^^ (the wierdest one out there!)

Hellchild915
04-15-2006, 10:33 PM
congrats to both
but why wouldnt there be any special jounin outside of konoha

KageNaruto
04-15-2006, 10:41 PM
why shouldnt there.

i would think anbu and special jounins exist in other villages too

y.o.
04-15-2006, 10:42 PM
I knew kage was gonna reach sannin as soon as I made special jounin, hes on his way to hokage now!

Hellchild915
04-15-2006, 10:43 PM
why shouldnt there.

i would think anbu and special jounins exist in other villages too

yeah kakashi said that there is an anbu is the mist village in the ep where haku comes out with that mask

KageNaruto
04-15-2006, 10:43 PM
lol about 800 posts behind CR

i just posted a lot this week (mainly its spring break and today im grounded so i have nothing but my comp to keep me entertained)

y.o.
04-15-2006, 10:47 PM
Damn you have your own comp!! I have nothin to do this weekend, Ive posted nearly 60 post today

Hellchild915
04-15-2006, 10:50 PM
lol about 800 posts behind CR

i just posted a lot this week (mainly its spring break and today im grounded so i ahve nothing but my cop to keep me entertained)

why would a cop keep you entertained lol anyways back on topic Kisame Vs. Itachi(itachi ofcourse)

KageNaruto
04-15-2006, 10:52 PM
i meant to say comp OK -_-....

back on topic.......

can kisame make his sword fly around on his own? since it flew outta gai's hands

Hellchild915
04-15-2006, 10:54 PM
he probably uses jedi powers to bring it back to him ahahahahahahahah yeah he probably controls it with chakara some how

KageNaruto
04-15-2006, 10:55 PM
lol make it fly around and drain everybody's chakra while he attacks em with sharks

AK47
04-15-2006, 11:15 PM
lol about 800 posts behind CR

i just posted a lot this week (mainly its spring break and today im grounded so i ahve nothing but my cop to keep me entertained)

why would a cop keep you entertained lol anyways back on topic Kisame Vs. Itachi(itachi ofcourse)
hahah a cop, one of those female strippers right kage?
anyways i wanna see kisame's own jutsu, probably similar to zabuza but more stronger
hm if raiga and zabuza had a tool ninja then kisame probably had one too right?
maybe his tool ninja is ...... ITACHI!!!

y.o.
04-15-2006, 11:21 PM
I liked that justu were he created an entire body of water

KageNaruto
04-15-2006, 11:22 PM
out of his mouth? yeah that was kool

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
04-15-2006, 11:29 PM
Seriously, itachi wins, but kisame is so much more cool, that guy is like the badest bad guy ever!

y.o.
04-15-2006, 11:32 PM
yeah he's deffinetly one of my fav characters, I hope kishi sees this somehow, that way we will see more of the fish!!

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
04-15-2006, 11:35 PM
But the akatsuki guy i want to see the most is the giant one, about 8 to 10 feet tall, he just look monstrous.

AK47
04-15-2006, 11:38 PM
But the akatsuki guy i want to see the most is the giant one, about 8 to 10 feet tall, he just look monstrous.
the venus fly trap guy?
i wanna see him too
and the leader (or is he the leader)

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
04-15-2006, 11:40 PM
what are you talking about with that venus trap guy?

Hellchild915
04-15-2006, 11:41 PM
But the akatsuki guy i want to see the most is the giant one, about 8 to 10 feet tall, he just look monstrous.

Wasnt that tall person in the pic of all of akatsuki together the puppet matser guy

AK47
04-15-2006, 11:43 PM
what the puppet masteer guy is sasori and sasori was a short guy (well when in that form)
well the venus fly trap guy is one of the characters we are introduced after the sasori fight but i don't know who the hell you're talking about

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
04-15-2006, 11:45 PM
No not at all. Here it is:
http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=akatsukimanga1aw.jpg
it's the big guy on the left. We haven't seen him yet.

y.o.
04-15-2006, 11:46 PM
No, DM rock_lee he's talking bout zetsku, the guy who came out the ground after the naruto sauske fight, who ate Itachi and kisame clones, and I think he ate what was left ova from Sasori!!

Hellchild915
04-15-2006, 11:47 PM
isnt that sasori in his puppet suit just standing (I'll look for the bigger one)

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
04-15-2006, 11:48 PM
No it's not him either, look at the picture i put the link on a post earlier, that giant i'm talking of hasn't been seen yet,damn. And it's not sasori, sasori is the smallest one on the picture with the 3 hairy spikes and he is lying on the ground just like when he fought under that shell.

AK47
04-15-2006, 11:50 PM
No it's not him either, look at the picture i put the link on a post earlier, that giant i'm talking of hasn't been seen yet,damn. And it's not sasori, sasori is the smallest one on the picture with the 3 hairy spikes and he is lying on the ground just like when he fought under that shell.
oh he wasn't even introduced yet ic
hmm i don't know if i really want to see him
i saw him in scary movie 4... what was his name...oh
SHAQ!!!

y.o.
04-15-2006, 11:52 PM
I dont even wanna see that movie after they made the 3rd one!

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
04-15-2006, 11:54 PM
LOL! I definitely wanna see this movie since shaq looks funny as hell, but the akatsuki guy isn't shaq, it's yao ming dude!

AK47
04-15-2006, 11:57 PM
10 pgs of discussing who's the strongest
let's just say we don't know yet but
so far we have seen some of itachi's skill which is verry impressive and strong
and we've seen kisame's sword and it's pretty strong but we haven' seen much of his skill
so...
i don't know i will have to go with itachi for now

Hellchild915
04-16-2006, 12:03 AM
Well the one that looked more impressive to me was kisame against gai and his team that was a great fight but Itachi did have to fight the stronger ones but we have to remember that they both fought with only 30% of there chakra in that fight

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
04-16-2006, 12:05 AM
Yes, so they haven't shown us all their jutsus yet, so we can't know really. So that topic should be stopped since we just don't know.

y.o.
04-16-2006, 12:42 AM
yes they have, they gave them 30% of thier chakra, or it took 30% either way those nin had thier own chakra and could perform their jutsu's everything but thier most powerful jutsus, like mange, remember kakashi said that that goyakuu no jutsu was the real thing it wasnt a copy or anything, thats 30% BS is over rated

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
04-16-2006, 12:47 AM
but because they used some good jutsus doesn't mean they shown us all their jutsus, they might have some we never seen yet.

y.o.
04-16-2006, 12:55 AM
Kakashi, Jariya, and The 3rd, all know over a thousand jutsu, we will never see all of them, really all we've seen from kakashi has been less than 8, and hes one of the main characters

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
04-16-2006, 01:00 AM
Maybe, but i still think we haven't seen enough of them to judge the strongest one, but from what we have seen so far, yes i gotta go with itachi.

KageNaruto
04-16-2006, 03:53 AM
from what weve SEEN so far i have to go with kisame cause itachi's battle at 30% was lame, but when i saw kismae fight i wa slike "woah!"

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
04-16-2006, 04:02 AM
yes but itachi's oponents were stronger so it kinda balanced the whole thing, plus we heard kisame say that he was fighting at only 30% of his strenght, but itachi never said so, maybe he used less than that and never said it.

KageNaruto
04-16-2006, 04:07 AM
wait wait wait... basicly only naruto and kakashi fought sakura just slappned naruto and that was it. chiyo stood there the entire time.

youre saying naruto and kakashi are stronger than gai, neji, tenten, and lee?

fat chance

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
04-16-2006, 04:11 AM
but as i said, maybe itachi didn't use as much strenght as kisame, he didn't say nothing about it!

KageNaruto
04-16-2006, 04:13 AM
maybe kisame didnt use as much strenghth as itachi^^

AK47
04-16-2006, 04:15 AM
request for lockage
there is like 10 pages on discussion like this so there is no need for saying the samethings over and over again
and plus we don't know who is stronger cuz we haven't seen their strength to da max

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
04-16-2006, 04:16 AM
Maybe, we don't know, it could also be true, but i'd be surprise of it. Also, it has been said already but you don't seem to understand. Why the hell would kisame treat itachi like his superior if he was stronger than him, and i think i'll kill you if you tell me that it's because he don't wanna make him feel bad, lol!

y.o.
04-16-2006, 03:26 PM
I agree w/ tha whole quote about master and underling, but re read what was said b/n Itachi and kisame, they used 30% of thier chakra to do the jutsu at one time but the people they used had thier own chakra as well they were perfect copies even perform same jutsu's w/ same power, but Itachi couldnt give his buushin mange, I personally think those clones were alot stronger than people think, more like 90% of the real thing, not 30% that was the amount of chakra they used to do the jutsu, and gave those guys!!

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
04-16-2006, 03:36 PM
Ok, calm down, you are definitely going overbpoard with your 90%, the fact that the ones they used also have their own chakra makes me think that oposite as you said, itachi and kisame didn't use as much power as they said they did, since the real bodys had chakra too, they didn't need to use as nuch as we think, and 90 % is really exagerated!

Kyuubi_Naruto
04-16-2006, 03:45 PM
Itachi.

Ichee
04-16-2006, 03:53 PM
If the fakes had 90% of their strength we wouldn't even be arguing about if Gai and Kakashi teams anymore.... They would had been dead........

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
04-16-2006, 04:06 PM
yeah! You're damn right on that one. They'd be death and quickly!

y.o.
04-16-2006, 04:40 PM
NO, its not, look at kisami's jutsu's can you truly think that thats just a measily 30% of his power, hell no even Itachis great fire ball, was bigger and far more impressive than anyone we've ever seen even kakashi said that jutsu was the real thing, they werent 2 cheap copies, or imitations

KageNaruto
04-16-2006, 06:49 PM
yes they were^^

Ichee
04-16-2006, 07:45 PM
NO, its not, look at kisami's jutsu's can you truly think that thats just a measily 30% of his power, hell no even Itachis great fire ball, was bigger and far more impressive than anyone we've ever seen even kakashi said that jutsu was the real thing, they werent 2 cheap copies, or imitations

God Damn -_-

What the fuck is you smoking???

They fucking said it in the manga ass

Sei uchiha
04-16-2006, 08:12 PM
itachi would win for shure, because, like he says, Kisame's moves are very easy to recognize, for example. Also, he wasnt able to beat Kakashi as fast as him

Also, i love Itachi :roll:

(In an admiration way)

CRtwenty
04-16-2006, 08:24 PM
Damn Uchiha fanboys... -_- we have a topic for that stuff ya know.

KageNaruto
04-16-2006, 08:27 PM
he meant kisame's moves are easy to recognize as if in theyd set off a signal for other shinobi to come because trouble is going on.

at least i think, my memory is fuzzy at that point

plus fanboys/fangirls dont have a say when their fanism turns into ignorance

Sei uchiha
04-16-2006, 08:42 PM
boy, I love this forum, everyone is so nice with new people, you really make it easy to talk.

PDT: what's the kind of mark does Anko has?

CRtwenty
04-16-2006, 08:43 PM
She has the Heaven Seal, same as Sasuke

KageNaruto
04-16-2006, 08:44 PM
lol haha sorry maybe i was a bit too harsh

anyway im an itachi fan but i still think kisame would win (im a kisame fan too but thats only because hes a fish and i find it funny, im an itachi fan cause he killed his clan off and is badass)

Sei uchiha
04-16-2006, 08:52 PM
oki, i suposed, thanks, CRtwenty.
I think itachi would win, but not because he's mi favorite, i like zabuza, ibiki, kimimaru, neji or Haku better than him, I just think he is faster than Kisame, and he knows lots of water jutsus, too. But I dont know, maby kisame learned how to figth looking only at his legs, just like gay. those little things count a lot, because it makes itachi's strongest jutsus
useless, except the black fire

KageNaruto
04-16-2006, 08:54 PM
just like gay? sorry i know what you mean it just made me laugh a lot.

CRTwenty posted a while ago his theory on how kisame would win, thats probably the best evidence out there

Sei uchiha
04-16-2006, 09:04 PM
oki, i didnt see it, sorry

CRtwenty
04-16-2006, 09:13 PM
Itachi is at a disadvantage against Jiraiya. Since Jiraiya primarily uses summoning techniques, which the Sharingan can neither dispel (like Genjutsu) or copy (since Itachi hasn't signed the pact). Furthermore he's a mid range fighter who uses large scale attacks, which makes the Sharingan's taijutsu reading ability rather worthless, and also keeps Jiraiya out of the range of Itachi's Genjutsu attacks.

But that's beside the point.

Kisame, from what we've seen (I'm bringing the manga into this, but I won't spoil) is a close range fighter, who uses lots of water type Ninjutsu to offbalance and disorient his enemy into dropping their guard. Allowing him to take them out with a few hits from Samehada. His sword also allows him to absorb chakra from his opponents, so fighting against him for a long period of time is a bad idea, since you'll eventually lose all your chakra.

Itachi is a mid range Genjutsu type. He usually opens up a fight with a powerful Genjutsu, which usually leaves the enemy open for a powerful finishing attack. If this opening volley is dodged or deflected he keeps his distance, softening the enemy with a series of mid range ninjutsu (including katon gouyakku no jutsu) and genjutsu. If he's facing a very strong opponent he'll try and take them out with his mangekyou sharingan, but this more of his trump card, he doesn't like using it that much.

He's also got all the defensive abilites of the sharingan, which allows him to counter and dodge most techniques thrown at him.

In a fight, I'd say Kisame would win, assuming he could avoid Itachi's Genjutsu traps long enough to drain most of his chakra.

It was in the anime version of this topic

Sei uchiha
04-16-2006, 09:19 PM
i see....., man, you really studied it..
thanks

Ichee
04-16-2006, 09:47 PM
boy, I love this forum, everyone is so nice with new people, you really make it easy to talk.

PDT: what's the kind of mark does Anko has?

umm.. Where the fuck this come from..

You my friend went way off topic..

Trying getting some glasses or contacts or something....

KageNaruto
04-16-2006, 09:49 PM
ichee you spam too mcuh

Sei uchiha
04-16-2006, 10:48 PM
i dont really care very much any more. I really hate this forum, it sucks, so i dont give a fuck what they say.

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
04-16-2006, 11:15 PM
if it sucks, then why are you on?

imported_Greenlitflag
04-16-2006, 11:16 PM
i dont really care very much any more. I really hate this forum, it sucks, so i dont give a f*** what they say.

You joined today and now you've decided that you hate it? lol, okay.

Hellchild915
04-16-2006, 11:18 PM
i dont really care very much any more. I really hate this forum, it sucks, so i dont give a f*** what they say.

You joined today and now you've decided that you hate it? lol, okay.

Its the same person as Ichee he made a new account

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
04-16-2006, 11:20 PM
is that allowed? Plus, we got one ichee and it's enough, i don't want 2 of them lol!

y.o.
04-17-2006, 07:14 AM
Man this guy is messing up every forum he goes to, getting back to the topic at hand, I want kiame to win, but I know the writers will have Itachi win

Sei uchiha
04-17-2006, 10:31 AM
well, you started fucking me around here, so that's what you get

AK47
04-17-2006, 04:46 PM
a mod plz solve this stupid flaming or lock this thread
thank you

Corcoran
04-17-2006, 05:23 PM
Kisame is just Itachi's guarddog.

Ichee
04-17-2006, 06:04 PM
i dont really care very much any more. I really hate this forum, it sucks, so i dont give a f*** what they say.

You joined today and now you've decided that you hate it? lol, okay.

Its the same person as Ichee he made a new account

What do you mean hes the same person....

-_-

Me and him aren't even in the same catergory...

I have a feeling you and him the same person..

Also Kage you spam more than I ever did so what the fuck are you talking about..

-_-

Anywayz I agree with Corcoran Kisame is just an underling for the boss Itachi..

-_-

Hiyo
04-17-2006, 06:52 PM
Kisame act like Itachi's bitch. So I assume either Kisame is a really respectful guy and likes Itachi or Kisame respects Itachi because he knows Itachi is more powerful them him.

I think it's the later.

Corcoran
04-17-2006, 07:02 PM
Kisame act like Itachi's bitch. So I assume either Kisame is a really respectful guy and likes Itachi or Kisame respects Itachi because he knows Itachi is more powerful them him.

I think it's the later.

It's both.
Kisame likes him, and he is concerned about Itachi using MS too much.
They are probably the best Akastuki team because they get along.

Hellchild915
04-17-2006, 08:09 PM
I dont think there the best akastuki members but kisame does act a little scared of him

KageNaruto
04-17-2006, 11:15 PM
scared? dont think so. kisame just seems like hes supervised by itachi, because ehs too brash and bashful. so far by seeing how strong they are kisame has the lead

plus we dont know if kisame's shark jutsu is normal or special to him

AK47
04-17-2006, 11:44 PM
scared? dont think so. kisame just seems like hes supervised by itachi, because ehs too brash and bashful. so far by seeing how strong they are kisame has the lead

plus we dont know if kisame's shark jutsu is normal or special to him
also kisame seems supervised by itachi cuz itachi is more experienced in teamwork, like anbu, and itachi is probably more smarter
kisame is stronger HAHAHAHAHEHEHE

kjrav
04-18-2006, 02:31 AM
KISAME WINS NO IF, AND OR BUTS.

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
04-18-2006, 02:43 AM
Still, it looks like it's not the general opinion since itachi is leading the poll.

kjrav
04-18-2006, 02:45 AM
Man the polls are prejudice to fishmen.

AK47
04-18-2006, 02:48 AM
i know man
i didn't know people on this forum liked gay people
that's right itachi is gay
his voice is so sexy it's gay

CRtwenty
04-18-2006, 07:01 PM
This topic started off so good too, what happened?

y.o.
04-18-2006, 08:46 PM
Yeah, it seems a mess but, interestin! But personally I voted Itachi, cause I know he would win, even though I want kisame to win and I like his jutsus and character more, if they ever fought he would lose!!

KageNaruto
04-18-2006, 10:49 PM
Still, it looks like it's not the general opinion since itachi is leading the poll.

polls are useless unless you use characters no 1 likes. its a fan based poll.

like 50% of all poles at least are fan based

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
04-18-2006, 11:04 PM
yes i know, but i think itachi would win, but that is just my opinion, i don't think we have seen enough of both of them to judge that matchup yet.

Ichee
04-19-2006, 02:17 AM
Hey... I like Kisame because he has more chracetr than Itachi but I have to give it to Itachi...

As they say " The most dangerous warrior is the quiet one"

kjrav
04-19-2006, 02:21 AM
Not nesscisarily it's the strongest clever person.

KageNaruto
04-19-2006, 02:56 AM
actually the smartest perosn isnt the strongest, it just helps in fights, just like having a massive chakra amount helps

imported_Greenlitflag
04-19-2006, 03:02 AM
Not nesscisarily it's the strongest clever person.

Clever people are usually quiet... okay, except for naruto.

kjrav
04-19-2006, 03:03 AM
that's why I said STRONGESTclever person.

y.o.
04-19-2006, 11:21 PM
So according to you, shika is the strongest??

AK47
04-22-2006, 10:40 PM
no he said strongest CLEVERST person
you gotto understand shika isn't the strongest person

Ichee
04-23-2006, 01:18 AM
The strongest clever person as was introduce in the syory is basically Itachi..

-_-

y.o.
04-23-2006, 01:30 AM
no he said strongest CLEVERST person
you gotto understand shika isn't the strongest person


Aint that the most obvious quote of the week! we all know shika aint the strongest period, but he is clever, and brains can make up for the lack of brawn!

AK47
04-23-2006, 01:33 AM
dude read the posts again
do you even remember what you were discussing about
don't post stupid crap up if you don't even know what you're talking about
one person said that "the strongest person is the quietest one"
and then kjrav said "no the strongest person is the strongest cleverest one"
and then you said " so you're saying the strongest person is shika"
and then i said " no he said strongest cleverest one"
and you're saying that shika is both strong and clever and i was telling you that
and now you're posting that i put up a stupid post
wow

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
04-23-2006, 01:34 AM
Dont double post dude, and, just to stay in topic, itachi might win but kisame is cooler!

y.o.
04-23-2006, 01:38 AM
what the fuck are you talking about, shut the fuck up gettin ya post count up the easy way I see!

Aint you the same DUMBASS, that posted "You gotta understand that shika isnt the strongest" who the hell on this forum doesnt know that!!

Ichee
04-23-2006, 01:40 AM
Yea Kisame is cool.... I like his personality more so than Itachi's...

but Itachi is cool too.... ;)

Haha do I smell that smell...

Is it threads burning...

I smell flame...lol

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: FLAME TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AK47
04-23-2006, 01:42 AM
yea to stay one f***ing topic and not saying retarded crap
kisame is a cool guy but itachi would probably win
(is that obvious yo) god i had a really good day til somebody pissed me off
and what about post counts i ain't gonna gain sh** from it cept a higher title
who gives
at least i post with one word!!!!

y.o.
04-23-2006, 01:49 AM
fuck you!

AK47
04-23-2006, 01:52 AM
kisame's sword is the coolest sword ever!!!
how it can shave and eat chakra that is so cool!!!
but itachi is so evil and has that sharingan :D
:evil:
and that mangekyou that is so cool
how he can use black fire and that genjutsu on kakashi
that was pretty cool!!!

Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
04-23-2006, 01:53 AM
LOL! A fight, a fight! hey y.o., calm down, ive never seen you so pissed off, lol!

Ichee
04-23-2006, 01:58 AM
lol... Ak47 is following what his mommy tells him and run...
what a p****
-_-

Anyway Itachi ownz and this thread is boring the hell outta me....

AK47
04-23-2006, 02:03 AM
wow no wonder no one goes to the naruto forum no more

y.o.
04-23-2006, 02:04 AM
Im apologize, I get like that when Ive been drinking and Im drunk, but I used to like AK47 now I think hes a flamin faggot!

Back to the topic, kisame would most lickly be the fan fav, but he would still lose to the elite uchiha who is held in such high regard

AK47
04-23-2006, 02:06 AM
k ya sorry didn't know you were drinking
yea what yo said

Ichee
04-23-2006, 02:09 AM
Ok save all that fag shit and get back on topic or let this shit drop and vanish...

Somebody should make a diffent versus thread without Itachi this time.

AK47
04-23-2006, 02:13 AM
Ok save all that fag shit and get back on topic or let this shit drop and vanish...

Somebody should make a diffent versus thread without Itachi this time.
every time you say to get back on topic you don't post sht that's related to the topic an sorry for not posting w/e is related to topic
and if you want to make a thread then make it yourself !!!
anyways itachi's counter genjutsu was pretty cool
i knew kurenai wasn't gonna get itachi but that counter genjutsu was unexpected

gerbster11
04-23-2006, 05:09 AM
If kisame could fight with his eyes closed then he could win, otherwise itachi would beat him with genjutsu, and sharingan from a distance.

AK47
04-23-2006, 05:13 AM
eh?!!?!
fight with his eyes closed what a great strategy
maybe if he summoned the mist thing but still he would not win against a strong opponent against itachi wiht his eyes closed
maybe you mean when he looks at his feet

gerbster11
04-23-2006, 05:26 AM
yeah, maybe if he can do that silent kill stuff like zabuza, then he could fight with itachi.

y.o.
04-23-2006, 08:58 AM
Ahh, I said that 5 pages ago, well the argument about that is we know that kisame isnt the silent assasin type as Itachi said his jutsus are big, flashy, and draw attention, so I dought he can come up w/ such an effective strategy, although Zabuza wouldnt be able to compare w/ Itachi he has the skills nessisary to make his genjutsus totally useless!

Ichee
04-24-2006, 07:21 PM
Thats true but it didn't really effect Kakashi eithier...

y.o.
04-27-2006, 03:19 AM
That might be a boring fight cause they both know so much about each other, and most likely have seen each others best jutsu!

NarutOBunshin
05-05-2006, 08:53 PM
Itachi would beat the living crap out of Kisame

KageNaruto
05-05-2006, 08:55 PM
Itachi would beat the living crap out of Kisame

1 more noob fresh out of the oven.

at least read the arguments made.

Canthinkofaname
05-05-2006, 10:36 PM
yes, welcome noobcake, and if hed pwn kisame, tell why
cuz we all know (at least us kisame believas) that kisame would win

AK47
05-06-2006, 02:43 AM
Itachi would beat the living crap out of Kisame
if you don't want to be overpowered by these guys by these guys
don't post with out a reason, i mean really

imported_Greenlitflag
05-06-2006, 08:12 AM
I think it's uh, nice that people take the time to write up reasons and theories for why kisame would win. But I honestly think if kishimoto wrote in a part where kisame fought Itachi that Itachi would win... just my thoughts.

y.o.
05-06-2006, 06:11 PM
I feel tha same way!

As for the noob he just wanted his lil noob voice to be heard, he didnt read anything b4 his post other than kisame vs. Itachi

Phoenix-Lord
05-12-2006, 03:25 PM
itachi would win there's no doubt about it. but in the other thread i had said that kisame could win.

y.o.
05-12-2006, 04:04 PM
Im not disagreeing w/ you but put some type of reason you feel that way, look a few pages back read the disscusion , people actually wrote reasons/arguments why he would win, not there's no dought he would win! Post something w/ a meaning, why do you think he would win, will be a good start!

Phoenix-Lord
05-15-2006, 10:46 AM
Im not disagreeing w/ you but put some type of reason you feel that way, look a few pages back read the disscusion , people actually wrote reasons/arguments why he would win, not there's no dought he would win! Post something w/ a meaning, why do you think he would win, will be a good start!i the other thread other than this one i had said that kisame has been with itachi for a long time and knows how to evade and maybe find out what itachi's weakness is. on the other hand itachi is by far the strongest person we've seen so far as an enemy of konoha. Agree? ?_? also he has been known to be the strongest person in his clan and he is the only person other than kakashi and saskue who can use the sharigans and its powers. Agree on that? plus kisame has been seen as defeatble and so goes the same way for itachi. if naruto and kakashi and team gai can do it than why not everybody else in cluding each other? Yes?

y.o.
05-15-2006, 10:57 AM
No, I think strenth is in numbers, no matter how strong Itachi is, he is still one person.

He wouldnt have been able to cause near the destruction to konoha as Oro did, and in my humble opinion anyway I feel Oro could beat him!

As far as his statement he might have know Itachi figured out his weakness, or hes not good enough to deal w/ his genjutsu, but I feel he will find a way around it!

Phoenix-Lord
05-15-2006, 11:00 AM
i got some good points and u got some good points. so....we're all good then! :)

y.o.
05-15-2006, 01:04 PM
So what the point?? I never said you didnt!!

Phoenix-Lord
05-15-2006, 03:12 PM
just what i had said earlier makes some sense yes?

y.o.
05-15-2006, 05:10 PM
Yes it made sense, so why would Itachi win??

My money is on Itachi, cause if they were to fight the story would have him beat kisame.

If the story wasnt so focused on Itachi being killed by sauske thenIm sure kisame would win!!

imported_Greenlitflag
05-15-2006, 06:10 PM
I think it depends on how much you look into story telling and character devolpment in general. Itachi is written very much like darth vader (tall, dark, man of few words, etc.) While Kisame is written more like boba fett (side-kick, can give the good guys a run for their money, but ultimately takes orders from darth.) Just judging by the way the characters are portrayed, I would say that Itachi would- or should I say, kishimoto would write the fight in a way that would make itachi win.

y.o.
05-15-2006, 07:11 PM
Itachi, tall are you kidding, sauske is probley taller than him now, and few words I give ya but there is no similarities to Star wars!

imported_Greenlitflag
05-15-2006, 07:28 PM
Itachi, tall are you kidding, sauske is probley taller than him now, and few words I give ya but there is no similarities to Star wars!

Tall was more of a metaphor... brooding I guess would be more accurate. And it's not about "star wars" it's about character presentation and depth.

y.o.
05-15-2006, 07:52 PM
He wasnt like him character wise at all

KageNaruto
05-15-2006, 10:47 PM
y.o. youre are in denial. hes not like in him, but there are those hard to explain similarities. i actually think Green did a good job explaining it

y.o.
05-15-2006, 11:35 PM
Well that makes one of use, I cant believe you actually agreed w/ someone!!

Masah
05-16-2006, 12:26 AM
Definitely Itachi, Sharingan, plus phenomenal GenJutsu user, haven't you noticed how much Itachi bosses around Kisame?

CRtwenty
05-16-2006, 09:23 AM
Kisame might just find it too troublesome to challenge Itachi.

And he gives him a fair amount of crap too.