chapter 298

[B166ER]

the raw is out here (http://naruto.japflap.com/index.php?page=media,dl,manga)
haven't dled it yet...

[oscarwilt]

Ok, i don't understand a thing but that end is the most surprising of the last that kishimoto has made. It's a bunshin, it's a plane or it's the result of my prayings?

[Ichee]

Haha looks like somebody had his neck hunged :twisted: but maybe it's just a setup..

[phoenix]

http://naruto.japflap.com/index.php?page=media,dl,manga


thats the raw now does anyone have the scanlated version???

[Diceman5000]

A lot of poeple are going to be happy if what I think happened in the last panel really happened. Does anyone know how long until the english scans are out?

[Patalia_NExt_lvl_shinobi]

THat was an Awsome chapter To BAd i don't Understand Japanese .....
Lot's of Fighting and stufff ( **cough cough**)

ANd yeah there's probably and exploting note somewhere

[Patalia_NExt_lvl_shinobi]

lol Academy Students whetre the First to reply at This Post

[Diceman5000]

Yea but it is just a clone, why blow it up? If that is the case why not just fight 3 on 1?

[phoenix]

sais deaddddddd ahahahahahah i really hope its not a jutsu or a clone i hate that little feminine jerk

[regina777]

yeah!!! it is healthy that academy students are interested soo much. But remember the rankings dont really matter- it is how much interest you have in naruto and how much you can contribute to this site and discussions that matters.

I guess most people are waiting for the scans or translations. if you want to use the translations and raw check this out then
http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=1855.0

[CRtwenty]

Here's a partial translation, based off of the one by Ryoma Echizen at mangahelpers.com.

Naruto 298 Partial Translation


Chapter 298: Secret Mission

Sidebar: 月の裏側のように。。。窺いしれぬ仮面の裏側。　僅かにそれが覗く時、全ては動き始めた！！J ust like the dark side of the moon... the dark side of the mask that no one sees. When a little bit peeks out, everything starts to move!!

Page 2:

Narrator: An eyewitness to Sai's betrayal, a bunshin of Yamato!

Yamato-bunshin: He must have been preparing this the entire trip.

Yamato-bunshin: Eh, whatever. I'll just deal have to deal with him later.

Yamato-bunshin:No matter how you look at things, it seems like it'll be best to chase them.

Naruto: By the way, where's Sai?

Naruto: The bridge is...

Yamato: About Sai, he's joined up with Orochimaru

Page 3:

Naruto: Eh?

Sakura: !?

Sakura: What do you mean?

Yamato: Both of you come with me.

Naruto: The ground's still soft.

Naruto: The bridge has been destroyed... and this area has become like this.

Naruto: Just what on earth happened here?

Page 4:

Yamato: You don't remember?

Yamato (thinking): As expected, it's just as Jiraiya-sama said.

Naruto: Now that I think about it, why was I unconscious...?

Page 5:

Sakura: You were attacked by Orochimaru and knocked out.

Naruto: ...So that was it... Darn it all!

Page 6:

Sakura: Sai's stuff is scattered about.

Yamato: I guess that's the stuff he dropped

Yamato: He really must have been nervous in front of Orochimaru.

Sakura: You know about that, don't you?

Yamato: From the beginning my wood bunshin has been contacting me through the wireless I put in here。

Sakura: Did something happen to Sai?

Yamato: Sai... after he exchanged words with Orochimaru... left with Orochimaru and Kabuto.

Naruto: What do you mean?

Page 7:

Sakura: What did they say?

Yamato: The conversation was too far away to be heard.

Naruto: Just what did they talk about?

Sakura: Could he have been threatened into going with them?

Yamato: No, it didn't seem like that. He went up to Orochimaru himself and handed him something.

Yamato: It really appears that he was trying to gain favor with Orochimaru.

Naruto: H-Hold on a second!

Naruto: However bad a guy he was, he would never betray...

Sakura: No... he might.

Page 8:

Tsunade: In the past, he competed for the position of Third Hokage with the late Sarutobi-sensei.

Tsunade: Unlike the Third, he is a cold and calculating leader, a militaristic hard-liner who is also Sai's superior.

Tsunade: Since I am a student of the Third who was a moderate and granddaughter of the First Hokage, he simply hates me.

Page 9:

Sakura: Yamato-taichou, about a person named Danzou...

Yamato: I know him. He was a hawk that opposed the Sandaime Hokage.
(hawk=person who's for war)

Naruto: Who's that?

Sakura: Sai's superior. An old man who thinks nothing of the Third

Yamato: Using Sai, Danzou might be up to something

Yamato: Perhaps... there is the possibility that Sai was ordered on some kind of secret mission from Danzou seperate from that of the team.

Page 10:

Naruto: So Sai instead of our mission, moved on to execute a completely different mission?

Sakura: Exactly.

Yamato: From this I have a strong guess that isn't outside the realm of impossibility... brace yourselves and listen.

Yamato: Danzou might be seeking to crush Konoha as it is now.


Page 11:

Naruto: Huh?

Yamato: In order to overthrow Tsunade-sama from her position as Hokage

Yamato: If he is thinking of conspiring with Orochimaru to once again invade Konoha once again...

Sakura: After the regime collapses, he'll make a new village he can utilize and as Hokage once again stand atop at the forefront.

Yamato: The reason Danzou moves now is because he saw the last failed invasion of Konoha and may believe that now is the time for negotiations between Orochimaru to progress smoothly

Naruto: ...No way... So Sai's secret mission is...

Sakura: To gain favor with Orochimaru and to become Danzou's mediator...perhaps.

Page 12:

Kabuto: Orochimaru-sama

Orochimaru: I know. We're being tailed.

Kabuto: Has our trail been followed so easily or is he one of theirs?

Kabuto: What shall you do?

Page 13:

Orochimaru: No matter which way we do it, one corpse is needed isn't it now... right Kabuto.

Yamato: With the things and circumstances the way they are we might have to deal with Sai.

Yamato: Now my bunshin is tailing them... I don't know what's going to happen.

Page 14:

Yamato: We're going to immediately follow their trail!

Naruto: Yes! Here I G... What?

Sakura: Naruto!? Naruto, are you ok!?

Sakura: His still hasn't recovered from the previous damage...

Page 15:

Sakura: Indeed, I know it's best to chase after them immediately, but with Naruto in this condition

Yamato: So just leave him behind. He should have enough strength left to get back to the village by himself.

Sakura: Kakashi-sensei wouldn't speak like that...

Naruto: If it's me you're worried about... I'm fine. Go on...!

Yamato: I teamed with Kakashi in the ANBU. I know what kind of person he is.

Sidebar: Yamato's Decision... will fortune or disaster result...!?

Page 16:

Yamato: Indeed I am Kakashi-san's representative. But I'm different than Kakashi.

Yamato: "I won't let you guys get hurt" ...I regret saying something like that so casually.

Yamato: You guys are no longer apprentice ninjas that need to be protected.

Yamato: You are Konoha shinobi that will one day have to surpass Kakashi and to shoulder responsibility.

Yamato: If we don't chase after him now, we won't get a second chance to catch him.

Yamato: If we wait here its over. The chance to face Orochimaru won't come a 2nd time.

Naruto: Sakura-chan.

Page 17:

Sakura: OK

Yamato: What is that!?

Sidebar: The shocking scene that awaits the Yamato Bunshin! Is this a feint, a deception, or the traitor's sad final fate!?

Below: Sai's death enrages Naruto! Next time, "A Hanged Sai"

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

of course he's not dead it most likely is a bushin or something.but ii wonder if thiers gonna be another battle :P and will sakura and yamato catch up to them

[Xearoveg]

I have a Scanlation i made from a translation, but i have no way to upload it. Would someone PM me that would know where/how i would do that.

[steve]

This chapter was wicked, interesting dialogue...

so Sakura and Yam will chace after oro eh? Interesting potential for battle here, except oro owns them..

I doubt sai is actually dead, he was too primary a character to have such a boring death. If when he dies it will be in a blaze of glory, I think if anything, when oro was speaking about a corpse he really ment yamato's clone(he may not know its a clone right now)

This could also be an opportunity for Sai to prove his loyalty to oro.

[Xearoveg]

got it up on rapidshare.

This is my first time doin this, i first did it just so i didnt have to wait for others, then noticed no one else had one up yet, so i tried to upload it and by that time there were others up, but here it is anyway.

Heres the link.

http://rapidshare.de/files/15104356/Naruto_ch198-LQ-scanlation-by-Xearoveg.zip.html


Edit: Oh just so you know i used KONs translation and changed a few things in the process. Thanks KONs for that fast translation.

[ff7799]

We have scantlated chapter 298 Narutochaos feel free to use it :

torrent:

http://datorrents.com/download.asp?id=7707&name=Naruto%20298%20LQ%20Scantlation%20%5BJinchuur iki%5D.zip.torrent

Rapishire:

http://rapidshare.de/files/15098111/Naruto_298_LQ_Scantlation__Jinchuuriki_.zip.html

[MATCHSTICK]

IMO pretty boring chapter except for the last page of course. It kind of just retold what all of us was thinking.

I don't think Sai is dead, considering how Oro and (what we have seen of) Kabuto's attack I would doubt that Sai's corpse would be like that, but more like in a million pieces, and i really doubt that they would bother stringing him up by his neck just for the heck of it. I think they're planning to ambush yamato, or they are using Sai's corpse right there and then to summon a dead person.

Either that or Sai's ability was indeed greatly exaggerated...

[RandomGuy]

Pretty interesting chapter imo. We had enough fighting and so now its good that hte storys moving on. Poor Naruto, I wonder if hes gonna head back. Maybe Kyuubi will heal him up or maybe Jiraiya/Tsunade will help him out when he gets back. Itd be tight if he went back, recovered, and headed out with Kakashi. Lol, I wonder if thats really Sai.

[imported_Greenlitflag]

I can't see how any ninja could die in such a lame way.

[Daninihno]

:? I doubt he's dead and if he is he died in the crappiest way possible. what kind of ninja get's hung while running? :?

[imported_Greenlitflag]

:? I doubt he's dead and if he is he died in the crappiest way possible. what kind of ninja get's hung while running? :?

That's what I was thinking :lol:
And with ROPE no less. I mean, if Oro did it you think he would hung by a snake or something. I forget what the properties of the jutsu Kabuto used in the hospital while trying to kill sasuke, but I think it might have something to do with that.. something about how Oro said "Either way, one corpse might be necessary.. Right, Kabuto?"

[CRtwenty]

Well, if Sakura and Yamato DO abandon Naruto to chase after them. We'll probably see a Sai/Kabuto Vs. Yamato/Sakura fight.

Looks like this arc isn't over yet. :p

[Dark Blade75]

Excelent! This had great dialogue, and the cliffhanger at the end is a shocker! :shock:

However, I doubt that he is dead :P

[CRtwenty]

Nah, he's not dead. How many times have we seen people get "killed" in Naruto, only to have them be replacements?

Of course if he actually is dead, it'd be a shocker. But a waste of an interesting character imo. And I'd have to get a new sig T_T

[Omaki_Roku]

he should be dead

no more room in the storyline for bums

[regina777]

Nah, he's not dead. How many times have we seen people get "killed" in Naruto, only to have them be replacements?

Of course if he actually is dead, it'd be a shocker. But a waste of an interesting character imo. And I'd have to get a new sig T_T
this is certainly true- he can be dead. Oro is someone who knows how to summon dead spirits, take the face of ninjas he has killed(not henge- remember the chuunin exams), and a whole lot of other jutsus. there is no way a gift from Danzou will be done in soo easily. Oro is evil but i doubt he will just off sai just like that- his statement to kabuto was just a prelude to what they should do to throw the search party off.

i like Yamato more and more.

[CRtwenty]

Eh. Yamato is ok. He's certainly got a different feel to him then the other Jounins. He's treating Sakura and Naruto like he would another Jounin, instead of babying them like everybody else does.

[superkhanh0]

dont u think ur sig spoil for anime watcher?

[CRtwenty]

Nah, most of them seem to think it's Sasuke.
Oh, and once again.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v163/CRtwenty/saiowned2.jpg

(I see a pattern emerging)

[imported_Greenlitflag]

Sai is ending up like kenny from south park. :)

[RandomGuy]

Fack, I forgot to do RG's Fight Club. CR did it for me with that pic tho so I guess its ok. Lol yea I was gonna say, CR youre gonna need a new sig.

Anyway, even if he was dead, I doubt he died by hanging. They woulda just killed him and strung him up. But still, for Kishimoto to kill a character off without enough development, without a fight, and without much explanation is out of character. I dont think Sais dead, but im still not gonna rule out that possibility just because Oro is a crazy mofo

[phoenix]

i think that the person we saw hanging was a a trap (obviously) meant not only to find out who is chasing them but also to see depending on that persons reaction if sai really meant whatever he said or he is just double crossing Oro either way its not really sai im sure of it now oh and ps I HATE YOU SAKURA she suck as a character and a ninja she needs to fall into a hole

[Valleyman]

I really hate Sai, but I don't think he'd die so easily. That was prolly to slow them down, or something.

What kind of ninja dies from HANGING?

He could just take his sword on his back and cut the rope. :?

[CRtwenty]

What kind of ninja dies from HANGING?

A really bad one? I dunno, I'm surprised Naruto hasn't strangled himself doing laundry or something.

[Valleyman]

That's true, except Sai seemed smarter than Naruto.

[ff7799]

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/4493/sai6mw.jpg

[Glorious Ular]

www.narutowill.com
It has one of the earliest manga releases next to mangahelpers!
And it has the option of just reading online!

[Valleyman]

Well, I got my from here (http://www.narutocommunity.net) if you still can't find a translated version.

[kjrav]

Mabey he killed Kabuto and disguised that as sai?

[ArenaNinja]

SO far the most logical choices are:

- Sai is REALLY dead (thank the lord!)
- It is a trap
- It is Yamato's wood henge transformed

But I really doubt Oro had killed Sai.. they deserve each other for a while.

On a sidenote:
OH MY GOD, THEY KILLED KENNY! YOU BASTARDS!

[AK47]

k obviously it is that orochimaru doesn't want anyone interfering with danzou's plan and wanted to make naruto and them think that orochimaru killed him but really they want to buy time for them to escape

[graff]

i think its kabuto in henge.

[Hellchild915]

I almost forgot about reading the chapter it was good and I think it is kabuto too

[Kazashi The Dragon]

i wanna see what naruto is gunna do cuz it says on the last page
sai's death enrages naruto
nextime: a hanged sai

i highly doubt it accually sai dead and all maybe its just a ploy to make naruto go berserk in kyuubi mode to distract yamato and sakura so oro can escape

[ENDER]

here's a HQ Scan!! It's really good.Enjoy!! :D
http://dl.mangahelpers.com/manga/scanlations/Naruto/Naruto_ch298_HQ_chikusho.zip

[regina777]

i think that the person we saw hanging was a a trap (obviously) meant not only to find out who is chasing them but also to see depending on that persons reaction if sai really meant whatever he said or he is just double crossing Oro either way its not really sai im sure of it now oh and ps I HATE YOU SAKURA she suck as a character and a ninja she needs to fall into a hole

sakura went down again in my rankings. Completely down. She may think it is protecting naruto- but it will come back to haunt her insome way. Of course when naruto goes berserk somewhere and starts killing his own people and gets disliked more and more- or is she still trying to play the " i am stronger than you naruto" line. of course, i am angry because telling naruto will help him decide to control his kyuubi transformations more and more. Kishimoto must have something good planned- otherwise this is ...

anyways. I wouldnt be amazed if that trap orochimaru left hanging is a big BOMB. i remember Kiba making a bomb like that against ukon/sakon. and this is certainly to buy them time.

[y.o.]

that wasnt all that great of a cliff hanger to me cause it doenst leave anything to guess at next week, we all know its not him! And even if its a suprise and it is, that would be even worse b/c all this talk about how sai is the strongest of his generation.... and all we seen him do was draw lions, a snake and a bird, thats wack, he didnt fight at all!! I wouldnt even look to see what they do w/ him in the anime!

[Patalia_NExt_lvl_shinobi]

that wasnt all that great of a cliff hanger to me cause it doenst leave anything to guess at next week, we all know its not him! And even if its a suprise and it is, that would be even worse b/c all this talk about how sai is the strongest of his generation.... and all we seen him do was draw lions, a snake and a bird, thats wack, he didnt fight at all!! I wouldnt even look to see what they do w/ him in the anime!Yo chill Y.o That`s his way of the ninja ...
Heck all Shikamaru does is control with his shadow techniques.
( I no he got a little better in Next Gen )

And Ino does the same with her mind control technique.

[regina777]

that wasnt all that great of a cliff hanger to me cause it doenst leave anything to guess at next week, we all know its not him! And even if its a suprise and it is, that would be even worse b/c all this talk about how sai is the strongest of his generation.... and all we seen him do was draw lions, a snake and a bird, thats wack, he didnt fight at all!! I wouldnt even look to see what they do w/ him in the anime!
and to add to what is above

how good Sai was is shown in the training with Yamato. If one were to judge naruto and what he did- it can be said that he sucks to high heaven. unfortunately we know otherwise- that is why no one complains.

but sai- has been in the show for just a short while. the only difference b/n him and others like shika or chouji is that we havent seen him fight for real.
he cant be blamed for that.

[KageNaruto]

im fine if sai dies or lives, when he let sakura fall to her death he earned my respect

[AK47]

i hope this is a short arc
or if some of the old characters come out and fight with their new moves

[Valleyman]

I want to see some of Naruto's new moves.

[KageNaruto]

lol yeah im sure he learned something other than oodamam rasengan and pulling shuriken out of scrolls (he copied tenten, maybe this is foreshadowing that they will hook up [kidding lol])

[Valleyman]

Yeah, I'm sure that isn't all he learned over those 3 years. I mean I'm sure some of that was going thoroughly over the basics with Naruto(remember everyone always said his basics were a mess).

But, I'm sure he learned some other better moves too.

Let's hope we get to see them.

[AK47]

of course
he probably did some missions
but he would've trained and learned many moves
he learned rasengan and almost fully mastered it in a week and it's a hokage move
so he probably learned some crazy ass ninja moves from jiraiya
pervert no jutsu!

[Blessed Devil]

I have a question.

Why would Sakura and Yamato leave Naruto behind when there's always a dangerous possibility for him? Did they forget that the Akatsuki are still on the prowl for Jinchuurikis?

[y.o.]

I have a question.

Why would Sakura and Yamato leave Naruto behind when there's always a dangerous possibility for him? Did they forget that the Akatsuki are still on the prowl for Jinchuurikis?

b/c even thought thats true about atkuski, yamato explains that hes not gonna baby naruto and sakura, the mission comes 1st and this is a very important mission its not everyday that you would find Oro in such a weak state and they have to take this window of oppritunity, besides naruto can take care of himself

[Blessed Devil]

b/c even thought thats true about atkuski, yamato explains that hes not gonna baby naruto and sakura, the mission comes 1st and this is a very important mission its not everyday that you would find Oro in such a weak state and they have to take this window of oppritunity, besides naruto can take care of himself
But Naruto almost fainted. He's definitely still weak. When an enemy ninja comes, we can't be sure if he can really take care of himself.

[y.o.]

b/c even thought thats true about atkuski, yamato explains that hes not gonna baby naruto and sakura, the mission comes 1st and this is a very important mission its not everyday that you would find Oro in such a weak state and they have to take this window of oppritunity, besides naruto can take care of himself
But Naruto almost fainted. He's definitely still weak. When an enemy ninja comes, we can't be sure if he can really take care of himself.But still its not something they can take the neccisary time to take care of, this is the way of the shinobi if a member of the team cant continue on w/ thier own power they are left behind! So they have to ccontinue on and just hope for the best in narutos case! The way I see it they have a better chance of catching Oro and getting info someway than naruto has of getting caught by a wondering atkuski memeber

[kjrav]

I think yamoto is also countin on naruto's healing factor to get him back up to snuff quickly. 8) Yo!

[Pryce]

I think yamoto couldn't care less dont u remember the story of kakashi's dad he saved his team but failed an important mission because of it and ppl in is own village flamed him so bad that he killed him self

[Radeon]

I love that you used 'flamed'...

[RandomGuy]

I second radeon

[AK47]

whoa white fang saved yamato's family

chap 299, chap 3hundy i hope it's a special edition or something
anyways i hope naruto kicks some butt in the future
sai will be converted from bad to good

[regina777]

whoa white fang saved yamato's family

chap 299, chap 3hundy i hope it's a special edition or something
anyways i hope naruto kicks some butt in the future
sai will be converted from bad to good

alright- there is no info that i know of that Yamatos family was saved by kakashis father. unless you are been jovial!!!

sai converting may never happen- unless probably danzou orders him to. even in front of ORO the guy could say that i am going to say everything exactly as Danzou-sama told me to- do whatever you want. Danzou is the only guy going to convert sai.

i really hope the preview about naruto going crazy upon seeing a supposedly dead sai means he is going to show us some new jutsu. that wuill be sugoi. at least then we finally know what he actually learnt apart from kyuubi transformations

[CRtwenty]

I think Naruto's pretty much out for the rest of this story arc. If another fight is going to occur, Yamato and Sakura will probably be the primary fighters.

[Valleyman]

I don't know though. The next one's title is called, "Sai's death enrages Naruto".

But he probably is out for it.

[sladd56]

personally, i'm glad sai is dead. no one, and i mean NO ONE, makes fun of another man's penis size. that's low. but i have a question. isn't it kind of strange how tough sai acted, and how most of the ninjas naruto has defeated had to die by like 20 kunai (zabuza). and he's been hanged. i wish i could have seen kabuto and oro kill him.

also, i hope naruto is out for the rest of the mission, unless they find sasuke, because naruto has been getting too much attention on this mission (even though it's called "naruto", and i want to see what yamato can do.

[Valleyman]

Well it is called Naruto dude.

I should hope he gets alot of attention on his show.

[sladd56]

yeah but in the beginning he was weak, and sauske got all of the attention. and then he got stronger and didnt get as much attention as he does now, same level of power, and sakura has a massive increase, and naruto gets more attention.

i'm also tired of naruto fighting with someone else. like when he fought with kakashi, he was annoying and got in the way, but when he fought oro back in the chunin exams, he was able to beat the giant snake without anyone's help.

[KageNaruto]

when he fought kakashi how did he get in the way? the first time he fought kaakshi he fought him only be himself, how doe she get in the way? i also think he did OK.
and the second time he fought he stradegized extremely well

[sladd56]

i meant the one against diadera(did i spell it right?)

at first he was too enraged and kakashi kept telling him to calm down, but then once kakashi used the seal that jiraiya gave him, he fought alot better.

and by the second battle, do you mean the one he had with sakura against kakashi to get the bell? because that dissapointed me how strategic he was being, then he went back to his old "punch first, ask questions later" routine.

[KageNaruto]

oh i misread. but thats cause naruto isnt a long type fighter so he couldnt do anything agaisnt diedara.

and naruto's haste hasnt changed, but he planned that entire attack out. re-read it, and he has incredible kage bunshin timing

[sladd56]

well for the beginning of the fight he was too angry to throughly think through his attacks until kakashi helped. but you're right, he did plan out the shadow clone attack pretty well.

[KageNaruto]

not xaclty, kakashi explained that diedara needs a long range fighter to fight him. so until kakashi got him diedara close enough for naruto to attack naruto couldnt do anything

[steve]

Naruto should learn some genjutsu. ahh imagine if sask dies killing itachi then gives naruto his sharingan
ahhhh that would be so crazy

[regina777]

Naruto should learn some genjutsu. ahh imagine if sask dies killing itachi then gives naruto his sharingan
ahhhh that would be so crazy
oh noo!!! i cant imagine that. If naruto was a loser ninja but sasukes friend then i would gladly hope it happens. But somebody with kyuubi inside him having an advanced sharingan eye implant like kakashis. that is too much if you ask me!!!

it looks like people are expecting a new jutsu from naruto as well as sasukes appearance and possible meeting with either naruto or sakura. that includes me too. Nonetheless, i hope something even more wonderful from kishi comes especially for reaching 300 chapters.

[sladd56]

i was thinking that exact same thing. it'd be cool, because they compare naruto to kakashi in his youth. so having naruto's uchiha friend die, and give up his sharnigan to naruto would be awesome. i'd love to see naruto with the sharnigan.

[KageNaruto]

Naruto should learn some genjutsu. ahh imagine if sask dies killing itachi then gives naruto his sharingan
ahhhh that would be so crazy

he clearly states he doesent like it and doesent want to learn any

[Valleyman]

He should, though like Jiraiya said, learn how to beat genjutsu(like get out of it or whatever).

[kjrav]

He nows the basics of how to do it he just dosen't have the chackra control for it ,yet.

[Valleyman]

He nows the basics of how to do it he just dosen't have the chackra control for it ,yet.


Yeah, that's basicly what I meant.

[y.o.]

THIS IS WHY NARUTO CANT BE CONSIDERED AT JOUNNIN LVL. He doesnt think or wanna learn tedious justus unless there poerful jutsu's like rasengan, thats just not smart on his behalf!

[CRtwenty]

THIS IS WHY NARUTO CANT BE CONSIDERED AT JOUNNIN LVL. He doesnt think or wanna learn tedious justus unless there poerful jutsu's like rasengan, thats just not smart on his behalf!

Well, we have no idea what he did with Jiraiya. And since all of his major fights have involved Kyuubi chakra. It's hard to tell how he's improved. Judging by what we saw when he sparred with Kakashi, I'd say he's at least on par with an average Jounin.

[y.o.]

Im not saying that he didnt out smart kakashi to get those bells, he showed tremendous growhth to exploit a weakness, but I cant say from what we seen especially against Itachi, he is average jounnin lvl, compared to sakura and her fight w/ sasori I was far more impressed w/ her and felt that she was closer to jounnin lvl, remember combat prowerss arent everything in moving up rank, just remember out of the chunnin exam who became a chunnin, the one person w/ tha lowest fighting/power of everyone in that exam, naruto is still hurting, but he is great non the less but not jounnin lvl.

[CRtwenty]

Well, the fight against Itachi was over in like 4 moves. Naruto didn't get much of a chance to shine. And against Deidara, Naruto was too angry over Gaara's death to formulate a strategy other then "use Kyuubi and kill" (same thing happened with Oro).

Naruto's strength, and weakness is that he can't keep his emotions under control. We haven't had the chance to see him fight under conditions where he isn't under a lot of stress.

[y.o.]

Even in the Itachi fight naruto would have lost to Itachi were it one-on-one at only 30% power! I feel like a hypocrit for saying that cause I defend sakura when she was fighting sasori, but then again sasori wasnt at 30% power and a previous nin they had encountered and took specific precautions to fight that type of nin, he couldnt escape a low lvl genjutsu

[CRtwenty]

A genjutsu peformed by a Genjutsu specialist mind you. I would have been surprised if he HADN'T been caught in it. Especially since Genjutsu isn't exactly Naruto's strong point.

Base Naruto, IMO can't stand up to an Akatsuki member without the Kyuubi. But, an Akatsuki Member isn't exactly the same as your typical Jounin anyway. I'd say Base Naruto is probably on the same level as say... Genma, Kotetsu, or Hayate. A low level Jounin.

[y.o.]

B/c of how fast he learns and what he knows like rasengan, I can agree, but I didnt know genma or hayate were a jounnin, I dont even know the last guy you mentioned!

I understand Itachi is a genjutsu specialist and Im not suprised one bit that he got caught, what I was dissapointed about was he didnt get out of it on his own!

[CRtwenty]

Genma: The Jounin who presided over the Third Exam, the guy who always has a toothpick in his mouth. He got owned by the Sound Four during the Chase Arc but was saved by Shizune.

Kotetsu: A Jounin who acts as Tsunade's assisstant. He is easily recognizable because he wears a strip of cloth around his face as a nose covering.

Hayate: The Jounin who looked over the Preliminary matches, and likely would have judged the Third Exam if Baki hadn't killed him beforehand.

[y.o.]

I knew who genma was, I forgot he was a jounnin, but hayate, I thought was a chuunin if he wasnt then he was a very weak jounnin. And I still dont know who that other guy is, shizune is the only assistant I know of, unless you talking bout the guy who was trying to get konohamaru out of that room b4 naruto tried

[RandomGuy]

Jiraiya said that he wouldn't teach Naruto Genjutsu because NAruto isn't a genjutsu type in the first place. I think I remember reading somewhere that its like a high intelligence type of jutsu or something, meaning someone like Naruto wouldn't be able to handle using them. I was disappointed when Naruto couldn't get out too, but that was Itachi we were talking about. Sure he was at 30%, but i seriously doubt that was low level genjutsu.

[regina777]

Jiraiya said that he wouldn't teach Naruto Genjutsu because NAruto isn't a genjutsu type in the first place. I think I remember reading somewhere that its like a high intelligence type of jutsu or something, meaning someone like Naruto wouldn't be able to handle using them. I was disappointed when Naruto couldn't get out too, but that was Itachi we were talking about. Sure he was at 30%, but i seriously doubt that was low level genjutsu.
i dont think it was low-level. Probbably its intensity would have increased had the sacrifice had been given more chakra. And of course if it involved MS would have been used on naruto.

i understand Y.O a bit. i am waiting for a naruto who can strategize(not just cunning), use great jutsus, or be as sleek a ninja as kakashi is- smart, intelligent- u know what i mean. Like sasuke. Unfortunately he is not.

and i also really understand what we have seen so far. Fighting ORO, itachi and Deidara- for survival- naruto definately needed Kyuubi mode fighting. There was no way an Akatsuki member like Itachi, or Oro, will be standing around for naruto to complete some new mouthwatering jutsu- they go straight to business. and with such opponents comes narutos best defense- kyuubi mode. Very logical really.

[Valleyman]

Well, I was thinking.

Could the thing where Sai is hanged have been a Genjutsu?

Remember in episode 4 or 5, Kakashi tricked Sakura into thinking Sasuke had a ton of kunai in him with a Genjutsu.

[CRtwenty]

Well, I was thinking.

Could the thing where Sai is hanged have been a Genjutsu?

Remember in episode 4 or 5, Kakashi tricked Sakura into thinking Sasuke had a ton of kunai in him with a Genjutsu.

I think it's very likely that it's a Genjutsu.

[Ichee]

That niggas dead in my opinion

[CRtwenty]

... was that really necessary?

[Valleyman]

Well, I just think it's kind of strange, how they go out of their way to build up curiousity and build up the character "Sai", and then have him die not far into it.

[KageNaruto]

well oro did sai "i guess we have to use a sacrifice after all", you think hell summon sasori with the ressurection jutsu!? lol

but the only reason sakura didnt die within 1 minute of fighting sasori is because of chiyo, really i wasnt impressed with sakura one bit, rather just chiyo, sakura's super strong punch is basicly the only good move she has and she needed help scoring that (ofocurse she did stradegize on killing the kazekage puppet that was pretty good)

and naruto agaisnt itachi he destroyed kage bunshin of itachi, get trapped in a gengitsu and then rasengane ditachi out. ofocurse youre ot gonna be that impressed.

by the way y.o. i dont even think kakshi could beat a 30% itachi unless he uses mangekyu but then hell be wasted for days to come

[DukeAbercrombie]

That niggas dead in my opinionit would be gay and corny if it were a fake. yamato would all be like, its a fake. and then they just run off after oro.

[y.o.]

well I read that chapter again and the justsu seemed to be a container transformed w/ a jutsu and givin 30% of the donors chakra, meaning they added 30% of there chakra to the person, and they used all there jutsus maybe not to thier full power, but I would say those copies were at least 80 to 90% as powerful as the originals

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

That niggas dead in my opinion

you better be black or at least spanish to be saying that word but plz refrain fromm using that word it might affend others.i doubt sai is dead just like that

[regina777]

For me personally, i dont think SAI is anywhere near dead. it is obvious, why will an astute smart ninja like Oro just kill off a good gift from somebody trying to help his course- just because he was been tailed!!!! possible- yes!!! but impossible-- More Yes!!!!

Genjutsu- maybe.

But in my opinion it is more likely an Edo tensei sacrifice made to look like SAI.
MY reasoning is this. Oro came to fight an Akatsuki member- supposedly SASORI. who uses similar techniques as him and who was his former teammate. He probably went there fully prepared- just as he did when he was coming to fight Sandaime- with sacrifices to summon a dead spirit into that sacrifices body> we know that is a jutsu he uses. upon meeting KN4 and having to change his battle strategies the summon via sacrifice couldnt be used. its use came when he was been tailed by Yamato.

this is very probable.

[joansanabria]

I agree, It's very probable that is a kind of trap involving Edo Tensei...

Going back to the naruto. Indeed we have to admit that nearly every time he had an important fight, Naruto just leaks out the nine tails. You know Zaku, Neji, Gaara, Sasuke, Itachi (30%), Deidara and finally Orochimaru. Only fighting with Kabuto, when he first masters the rasengan, and also with kiba making up the naruto rendan (but after farting, which just makes me don't take serious a fight like this one).

If you guys take that as a premise, then naruto isn't a great nin. Just he's got a demon inside and he leaks it out, only the rasengan it's the big exception. Nothing more, and just sucks (pathetic I mean) .... My hope is that Akatsuki just kidnapp him and take him of the kyubbi. Because of that he should learn to control his anger and administrate his chakra in a better way, becoming a similar nin to the 4rth. A reaally worth warrior, without any trumph card like the nine tails...

Like to hinata

[sladd56]

maybe sai's body is actually kabuto's, they just wanted the team to think it was sai so they wouldn't need to worry about him anymore. oro did look at kabuto when he was saying "sacrifice" so he could have killed kabuto, and transformed his body into sai's as a punishment for being a spy. but for some reason, i like kabuto, and if he dies instead of sai, i'll be pissed.

[Glorious Ular]

im not sure Oro's ready to dump Kabuto. He could still be useful.
i think its either Sai or some sort of diversion bunshin.

[regina777]

im not sure Oro's ready to dump Kabuto. He could still be useful.
i think its either Sai or some sort of diversion bunshin.

yeaH!!! Oro will not use Kabuto in such a way. Well, tomorrow we might have some answers. but i still thinkk the word sacrifice Oro used refers to EDO TENSEI somehow.

[timeforsleeep]

I agree, It's very probable that is a kind of trap involving Edo Tensei...

Going back to the naruto. Indeed we have to admit that nearly every time he had an important fight, Naruto just leaks out the nine tails. You know Zaku, Neji, Gaara, Sasuke, Itachi (30%), Deidara and finally Orochimaru. Only fighting with Kabuto, when he first masters the rasengan, and also with kiba making up the naruto rendan (but after farting, which just makes me don't take serious a fight like this one).

If you guys take that as a premise, then naruto isn't a great nin. Just he's got a demon inside and he leaks it out, only the rasengan it's the big exception. Nothing more, and just sucks (pathetic I mean) .... My hope is that Akatsuki just kidnapp him and take him of the kyubbi. Because of that he should learn to control his anger and administrate his chakra in a better way, becoming a similar nin to the 4rth. A reaally worth warrior, without any trumph card like the nine tails...

Like to hinata

Can we please stop w/ the "if Naruto didn't have 9 tails" thing. The same could be said of Neji, Sasuke, and whoever else has some sort of innate ability/skill. Ninjas use what is @ their disposal to improve; no more no less.

[RandomGuy]

I completely agree with sleep. Everyone praises Gaara for being so strong, but he uses a demon too, and the best part of his defense is because of Shukaku. As long as Naruto's alive, I doubt the Kyuubi's gonna leave his body any time soon so he might as well use it. Besides that, weve barely seen him fight in a non emotional fight since the 3 year jump, so we still dont have a good idea how far hes progressed.

[Sabaku no Kakashi]

Yep I agree too...Sasuke has sharingan, Neji has the byakugan...and its not like having tailed monsters is at all an advantage...Kishimoto has time and again emphasized the difficulty of controlling the monsters...Its a sort of talent as well...Itachi has been impressed with Kakashi's ability to use the Sharingan as one not possessing the Uchiha bloodline...Naruto has baffled many by his ability to retain autonomy of his own actions, and to withstand the strain of the kyuubi's chakra on his body...Gaara has to constantly battle with his bijuu till he's on the verge of insanity...and is able to utilise that power fully to attain the status of kazekage, while another person in the same circumstance might very well have died of strain or lack of sleep... :D

[y.o.]

yea that might be true, but garra is special