View Full Version : SASUKE VS. SAI????
Glorious Ular
03-04-2006, 01:49 AM
I feel the future battle between Sasuke and Sai.
I hope it will happen and it will be amazing! Sasuke might kill Sai in the process too. But i havent seen Sai to his fullest.
Its wicked that Sai can do replacement techniques with his paint or ink, whatever you would call it.
Hellchild915
03-04-2006, 01:55 AM
Well we dont know Sai's true power or how much stronger Sasuke is so its hard to tell right now and it will be a good fight if it happens
KageNaruto
03-04-2006, 02:21 AM
I feel the future battle between Sasuke and Sai.
I hope it will happen and it will be amazing! Sasuke might kill Sai in the process too. But i havent seen Sai to his fullest.
Its wicked that Sai can do replacement techniques with his paint or ink, whatever you would call it.
also i thought the ink was an ink clone, how do you know its replacement?
RandomGuy
03-04-2006, 02:21 AM
Im almost sure Sasuke would destroy Sai esp with CS
Kyuubi kid
03-04-2006, 02:35 AM
Yes, another possile battle we have to look forward to...
I dont really care who wins, I just want some good action!
imported_Aizen-diacho
03-04-2006, 12:31 PM
sasuke would kick is ass we don't even need to know what sai is capable of right now i'm sure it's not that much anyway.and why are you ppl so fassanated with his ink clone it's only natural that he uses ink and stuff so he can make a clone with it.
Valleyman
03-04-2006, 07:26 PM
You seem to forget, we don't know what Sasuke is capable of either. We haven't seen him in a long time.
Nor, like you stated, do we know Sai's strength.
A thread like this, is even harder to try to predict than Sasuke vs. Naruto.
It's impossible to tell.
Ichee
03-04-2006, 09:08 PM
You seem to forget, we don't know what Sasuke is capable of either. We haven't seen him in a long time.
Nor, like you stated, do we know Sai's strength.
A thread like this, is even harder to try to predict than Sasuke vs. Naruto.
It's impossible to tell.It's stupid -_-
superkhanh0
03-04-2006, 10:26 PM
sasuke gonna woop sai's ass :D
oro say sasuke and naruto is on the same levl
Valleyman
03-04-2006, 10:38 PM
He did that to make Naruto mad.
superkhanh0
03-05-2006, 12:16 AM
u neva kno , sasuke aint waste 3 years for nutin
kjrav
03-05-2006, 12:33 AM
I dont know who would win but i think we are underestimating sai like some of you under estimated 4 tail naruto during fight with oro.
imported_Aizen-diacho
03-05-2006, 05:23 AM
there's like no need for hard evidence i'm sure sasuke cursed seal lv2 is about naruto with 3 tails.sai is for either of them
u neva kno , sasuke aint waste 3 years for nutin
I agree but at the same time if Oro had that much trouble w/ 4 tailed naruto I dought sauske would have been equally as powerful w/ only 3 yrs of training
Pryce
03-06-2006, 05:55 PM
even if sasuke didnt get stroger at all he would still pwn sai
Valleyman
03-06-2006, 07:10 PM
Well, we don't know that.
Most likely he will though because Sasuke is a main character. Sai isn't.
imported_Aizen-diacho
03-06-2006, 07:28 PM
sasuke back when he fought naruto in the cursed seal lv 2 yea he can beat sai
kjrav
03-06-2006, 08:15 PM
I think sai is being underestimatd somthing in that envelope changed oros mind about taking sai with him mabey its some secret power or jutsu that sai has. 8) Yo!
regina777
03-07-2006, 09:59 AM
I think sai is being underestimatd somthing in that envelope changed oros mind about taking sai with him mabey its some secret power or jutsu that sai has. 8) Yo!
some secret power- now i am intrigued!!! I have always wondered why Danzou called Sai the strongest of his generation- what does he mean by that. You know, kabuto infiltrated konoha is remnant of a dead expedition unit and seems to have some secret agenda or power apart from been a good medic ninja- i wonder if sai has some power he hasnt demonstrated yet. i am really intrigued.
But i am also expecting more than power for Oro to accept that offer immediately. He obviously doesnt trust Sai or Danzou- and he has people full of power beside h im(i doubt he hasnt replaced the sound 4 already)- it may not be power. if it is it will not be power alone but + something else.
Valleyman
03-07-2006, 07:29 PM
sasuke back when he fought naruto in the cursed seal lv 2 yea he can beat sai
That was 2 and a half years ago.
We haven't seen Sai's power.
imported_Greenlitflag
03-07-2006, 07:35 PM
sasuke back when he fought naruto in the cursed seal lv 2 yea he can beat sai
That was 2 and a half years ago.
We haven't seen Sai's power.
Sai is suposed to be the strongest of his generation. Those were titles previously given to Sasuke and Neji, and they seem to be quite formitable ninja.
Glorious Ular
03-08-2006, 12:37 AM
Yes it all depends when Sai got the strongest of his generation title
he most likely got it the yr b4 neji cause he doesnt look to be that much older than naruto, at the olderst he would be 18 and that would put him 2 classes back behind neji, but I would be dissapointed if sauske even used that curse seal against sai, hes got sharingan, he doesnt need the physical power from the seal
CRtwenty
03-08-2006, 08:28 AM
Sai is... imo either one year younger then Naruto (making him 14 right now) or one year older then Neji (making him 17 atm)
I'd lean towards the latter myself.
Same here, Im thinking that he is 17, one yr older than neji , but I was saying he 2 yrs older at the most, but I dont think hes 14 he looks to mature for that
Pryce
03-08-2006, 11:33 AM
I dont know about that one I know Danzou said it but how would he know? does he spy on everybody when they go on missions, and if he's talking about all the villages then theres also garaa who is a kage and i know that sai isn't kage level besides all new ninjas are made out like that like...
"oh I'm one of the mist 7 swordsmen and i killed over 100 ninjas at one time"
"I became an anbu captin when i was 14 and killed my clan"
"i have never been touched in any mission"
"I'm was the top rookie and have eyes on the back of my head"
ect ect
imported_Greenlitflag
03-08-2006, 12:12 PM
I dont know about that one I know Danzou said it but how would he know? does he spy on everybody when they go on missions, and if he's talking about all the villages then theres also garaa who is a kage and i know that sai isn't kage level besides all new ninjas are made out like that like...
Well he wouldn't base that on nothing. It's most likely based on "grades" (or whatever they use to determine skill in the academy) and mission success/rank of missions. And all of the people you mentioned would NOT be from Sai's generation.
Glorious Ular
03-09-2006, 11:24 PM
Sai couldnt have gotten into AMBU earlier than Itachi!!!!
He must be at least 15.
kjrav
03-09-2006, 11:26 PM
He didnt grt into anbu he is in anbu root unless im mistaken.
Valleyman
03-09-2006, 11:29 PM
Well, at 13 Itachi was ANBU leader.
He wasn't just in ANBU, he was the ANBU leader.
imported_Aizen-diacho
03-10-2006, 12:05 AM
lol big differences and sai imo wouldn't be able to beat raged naruto even if he busted out everything he had sai being as strong as naruto or sasuke is crazy kishi doesn't write like that yea he maybe able to match naruto a bit but if naruto gets real serious then he'll get pawned
kjrav
03-10-2006, 05:36 PM
Sasuke with curse seal would own him but Normal sasuske I dont know .
Glorious Ular
03-11-2006, 01:37 AM
I think Sai could have a way with first level curse seal but im not sure about second level.
Valleyman
03-11-2006, 07:41 PM
Probably not. He could try to run Sasuke down with it though(remember he can't use it very long).
gerbster11
03-16-2006, 04:19 PM
Sai would get his a** owned by Sasuke. It wouldn't make any sense if Sai Beat up on Sasuke. Plus with cursed seal, victory would be guaranteed.. I dont know Im just hungry for a good fight.
Boo-ya
imported_Aizen-diacho
03-16-2006, 06:20 PM
imo....sai will never beat sasuke,sasuke might have to use the sharigan but thats it nothing more nothing less
Glorious Ular
03-16-2006, 07:42 PM
You cant say that just yet, we have yet to see Sai at his ultimacy.
yah sai didn't show his ultimate strength
but it looks doofy anyways, drawing birddiesJK
anyways i think sasuke might be sai in speed cuz we know sasuke is a beast at speed
He barely showed anything let alone his ultimate strenth!!
gerbster11
03-17-2006, 03:41 AM
Ultimate strength??? I am sorry, but I am not trying to flame but if you look at the big picture there is no way Sai could beat Sasuke, and since we are in the Manga section we have to admit either Sai will die or they will work together as a team...
boo-ya
Why cant sai beat sauske?? You dont know what hes capable of, from what we've seen he either older or younger than neji, or sauske but he was the strongest of his generation meaning #1 rookie, and all of them have been very strong so far so why not him!! And there has to be something about him why Oro didnt kill him, and something that he relized or was said about him on that note!
gerbster11
03-17-2006, 03:54 AM
I'm just saying, in my mind if you look at the big picture, how could Sai kill Sasuke, if Sasuke is supposed to stay alive to kill Itachi?..... And plus if you want to pull out kindergarten tactics with the sharingan, "anything you can do, I can do better"
nuff said, boo-ya (no flame intended)
Its not a garuntee hes gonna beat Itachi, he lost once it can certainly happen again, not to mention he dont have to kill him to beat him he can just not knock his ass out
gerbster11
03-24-2006, 07:08 PM
I was wondering right now, that even if Sasuke can see Sai's technique he would not be able to replicate technique without ink, right?
imported_Greenlitflag
03-24-2006, 08:04 PM
I'm just saying, in my mind if you look at the big picture, how could Sai kill Sasuke, if Sasuke is supposed to stay alive to kill Itachi?..... And plus if you want to pull out kindergarten tactics with the sharingan, "anything you can do, I can do better"
nuff said, boo-ya (no flame intended)
Unless sasuke plans on crapping out a scroll, ink, and a brush he isn't going to be able to copy much. And I don't think any thinks that Sai will or could kill sasuke (he's a main character.. it's that simple). I don't think Sai could be beat sasuke but to say that sasuke would have just pwn him in a second is a little premature.
Glorious Ular
03-24-2006, 08:36 PM
I dont think that Sai could kill him but maybe mangage to be par with him, we still havent seen Sai's potental.
Sai being the strongest of his generation, I automatically associate him w/ the like of sauske and neji- I cant say weather he is older or younger but I guess ultimatley doesnt matter!! I think that he is strong and we havent seen not even the tip of the ice berg when it comes to his power, I look 4ward greatly to see what he is capable of
Ichee
03-24-2006, 11:51 PM
Sasuke may have more raw power and chakra than Sai but it doesn't mean hes as cunning as Sai. So it's a no say for now.....
Its tyhe same as if he were fighting shikamaru, hes not as cunning but doenst mean he wont win the fight
Ichee
03-25-2006, 12:09 AM
The same Sasuke may beat Sai; Sai may beat Sasuke...
-_-
deffinetly, thats why I hope they fightbut even if they do begin, yamato's clone, or team yamato will interfere, and naruto w/o kyuubi will fight sauske since thats the fight that everyone want to see
Valleyman
03-26-2006, 12:29 AM
I hope Sasuke and Sai and Naruto do a three way fight lol.
kjrav
03-26-2006, 12:39 AM
why would sai fight sasuke in the first place sai seems to be serving oro and sasuke is training under oro so there is no reason for them to fight. it's more likely gonna be Sai & Sasuke vs. Naruto & Yamato type fight or even Sai & Sasuke & Kabuto vs. Naruto & Sakura & Yamato.
Hellchild915
03-26-2006, 12:48 AM
The only reason I see them fighting is that sasuke wants to fight sai to see how strong he has gotten
Valleyman
03-26-2006, 12:55 AM
Probably right. Sasuke to test his strength wants to fight Sai maybe.
kjrav
03-26-2006, 01:34 AM
well I doubt oro would let them do anything more than spar b/c we all know oro has a need for sasuke and a use for sai and I'm sure oro has plenty of people under his belt for him to fight that are expendable enough for him to kill.
Glorious Ular
03-26-2006, 03:30 AM
Ya maybe Oro brought home a test dummy that still might be a worthwhile fight.
Maladar
03-26-2006, 09:21 AM
Hello, I'm pretty new here I'm just gonna add somes stuff I was thinking of.
First off, a Fight against Sai is more surely going to happen sooner or later I think. It could be, as many people said a great way to see how strong he became.
Also, I noticed people talking about the Sharigan all the time and how this would just completely own Sai. I have to disagree. Keep in mind Sai's Fighting Style doesn't seem to be centered much about doing seals with the hands. Instead, he seems to "draws" the skills.
This would make the fight much tougher because Sasuke wouldn't be able to copy or anything. The only thing he might be able to do with the Sharingan is to predict movement form Sai. I'm sure the way Sai fight is gonna give somes troubles to someone if they ever fight.
Ichee
03-26-2006, 09:55 AM
I think the techniques Sai uses with his drawings is tied to his emotions....
regina777
03-26-2006, 04:33 PM
Hello, I'm pretty new here I'm just gonna add somes stuff I was thinking of.
First off, a Fight against Sai is more surely going to happen sooner or later I think. It could be, as many people said a great way to see how strong he became.
Also, I noticed people talking about the Sharigan all the time and how this would just completely own Sai. I have to disagree. Keep in mind Sai's Fighting Style doesn't seem to be centered much about doing seals with the hands. Instead, he seems to "draws" the skills.
This would make the fight much tougher because Sasuke wouldn't be able to copy or anything. The only thing he might be able to do with the Sharingan is to predict movement form Sai. I'm sure the way Sai fight is gonna give somes troubles to someone if they ever fight.
that is one of the reasons i have always given sai a better chance all the time. i doubt Oro will just accept any gift from Danzou unless it was highly worthy and prized. That is why probably Oro smiled and accepted sai in the first place. There is truth in Danzous statement that he is the best of his generation.
the jutsus we have seen so far from SAI didnt even show any seal formations; rather it was art and its manifestations thereof- copying such may be difficult, although i dont think it impossible. and sai hasnt really fought to show us what he can truly do- that is why i was really hoping he stays with team 7- ahh!!! that didnt happen.
he will surely be a sparring partner for Sasuke- a perfect one. Considering his animosity towards sasuke, which i think he wasnt faking, they will surely be a pair- unlike naruto and sasuke- more like geniuses at work.
Probably right. Sasuke to test his strength wants to fight Sai maybe.
He doesnt know how strong sai is so that point is irrelevant, sauske doesnt know that sai was the strongest of his generation!!
kjrav
03-26-2006, 04:48 PM
he'll find that out sooner or later
regina777
03-26-2006, 05:06 PM
he'll find that out sooner or later
hopefully sooner- if Oro allows Sasuke, kabuto, and sai to engage in a fight with team Yamato. i just pray that fight happens.
kjrav
03-26-2006, 05:15 PM
he probaly wont want them to but sasuke may ignore him just to see how strong Naruto is.
but the reason that I said that was b/c he wont fight him so soon, cause he knows nothing of him, if hes weak, he wont want to fight him, but he wont find out how strong he is till later then they might spar
yordady
03-27-2006, 06:30 AM
saske will pwn cus he is the strongest clan in konoha!!!!1
Glorious Ular
03-28-2006, 03:09 AM
saske will pwn cus he is the strongest clan in konoha!!!!1
NOT so fast there buddy! They also said that Sai was the strongest of their generation.
Hellchild915
03-28-2006, 03:18 AM
Man Glorious Ular you really dont like that kid
Eargasm
03-28-2006, 04:07 AM
I could see it going down where team 7 shows up. Oro sents Sai to fight them to see how strong Sai really is. Sauske gets pissed off cause Naruto is his and goes into fight. Then it ends up being Naruto and Sauske vs Sai. Or Sai and Sauske won't fight cause they don't really have a reason to. Unless whatever was in that note made Oro more intrested in Sai then Sauske (which would be pretty all of a sudden) and decided to test which one would make a better container via fight to the death.
Im thinking maybe Sai's brother was someone very powerful and it seems to be indicating that Sai killed his brother which could've been something that would impress Oro. You never know what kind of crazy stuff could be thrown our way any second though can't wait for the next issue.
gerbster11
03-30-2006, 05:16 PM
Hahahahahaha. The new manga came out already so its not a spoiler that Sai got his a$$ punked from the getgo when Sasuke met him. Sai would get sooo pwnd.
RandomGuy
03-30-2006, 08:34 PM
Nice sig btw gerbster :P
Yea, Sasuke owned Sai just by looking at him...
regina777
03-30-2006, 09:02 PM
oh boy!!! isnt sai quite unfortunate. He is a puppet, he lost his brother, he is working against konoha, more like the current power institution in place, even though he thinks he is not, he became a traitor to team 7, he got owned by Oro(his clone here), sakura gave it to his face, and now sasuke!!!
lets give him some slack.
Hellchild915
03-30-2006, 09:10 PM
I wonder how they made sai into a human puppet like that and how long it took
Glorious Ular
03-31-2006, 02:33 AM
Man Glorious Ular you really dont like that kid
I just dont like people who dont make good points, there easy targets for arguing thats all.
Sai definitly isnt a puppet, hes just deranged and mest from root anbu.
gerbster11
03-31-2006, 02:56 AM
Ummm,,, do you mean human puppet literally like Sasori style,? or just human with no emotions or feelings. I think since Danzou was his boss or whatever that he put Sai through weird training like isolation, hope they show flashback on how he came to be like this.
regina777
03-31-2006, 01:28 PM
Ummm,,, do you mean human puppet literally like Sasori style,? or just human with no emotions or feelings. I think since Danzou was his boss or whatever that he put Sai through weird training like isolation, hope they show flashback on how he came to be like this.
OF course not like sasoris. Human who says he has no emotions.
Psychology will let us believe that even though SAI thinks he has no emotions, he actually has; but he has buried them in his subconscious through some sort of preconditioning of his psyche. No wonder- in the latest chapter Sasuke managed to let him bring out to the fore some hidden memories, some emotion, and sweat.
So hopefully he doesnt side with Oro solely because of Danzou; i kind of like his character.
your getting a lil to deep for an anime!
regina777
04-02-2006, 04:02 PM
your getting a lil to deep for an anime!
i dont think this is even deep enough. anime/manga is not much different from a book- which can go as deep as the mind can get. part of what some manga is is to delve into theories and other real world scenarios or myths. Psychology may be one of the main fields explored a lot. and at times theology (berserk for instance)
I completely agree w/ you, but I dont think that kishi thought of all that while coming up w/ sai's character thats all, even though you can make a psych eval after the fact!
Ichee
04-02-2006, 09:10 PM
To me I think he did think about all that....
Because somebody without any emotions is very complex and they couldn't have been like that forever...
Somebody can train themselves to bring themselves from emotions and pride... or they can become like that from an experience that took their sense of self or emotion...
regina777
04-02-2006, 10:03 PM
To me I think he did think about all that....
Because somebody without any emotions is very complex and they couldn't have been like that forever...
Somebody can train themselves to bring themselves from emotions and pride... or they can become like that from an experience that took their sense of self or emotion...
very good point. this is why i was talking about some sort of psychological preconditioning- that somehow might have turned sai into an obedient servant of Danzou. Unless he did that to himself after his brother died.
He still has emotions, Hes human he has just suppresed them to the point it seems he has none
gerbster11
04-04-2006, 01:24 AM
I wanna see him go psycho and lose control, maybe it would bring up some raging dattebayo power.
??? He will start skething madly, coming up w/ all kinds of random animals and mythical beast!!!
graff
04-04-2006, 11:46 AM
your getting a lil to deep for an anime!
i dont think this is even deep enough. anime/manga is not much different from a book- which can go as deep as the mind can get. part of what some manga is is to delve into theories and other real world scenarios or myths. Psychology may be one of the main fields explored a lot. and at times theology (berserk for instance)
exactly
I never got into bezerk, I was to far behind to even try to catch up! But thats what I should have been doing during the naruto fillers instead I started bleach which wasnt long at all
Can sai only draw animals, if he drew himself i wonder what would happen.
Ichee
04-28-2006, 07:27 PM
He already did...
It's just a clone made from ink...
Can sai only draw animals, if he drew himself i wonder what would happen.
it happened when orochimaru stabbed him with the sword but that was an ink clone
we didn't see him draw it but we know he did
Can sai only draw animals, if he drew himself i wonder what would happen.
You havent read that far or something??
We all seen Sai create a clone of ink!
gerbster11
04-30-2006, 02:24 AM
Hopefully now that Sai is supposedly a good guy we will see him fight Sasuke, and I think Sasuke will still win, but it has potential to be a good fight.
Sauske checked him when he thought he was on there said so I highly dought that now he has swithched sides will make a difference!
Besides its really less likely to happen now cause naruto says hes gonna do all this to take sauske back w/ him and everyone wants to see them fight again
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