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Kyuubi kid
03-02-2006, 06:34 AM
Guess what? another awesme chapter thats what!
http://mangahelpers.com/forum/index.php?topic=1660.0

Theres the raw.

EDIT: Can you believe that theres a scan already?!

Mousie: un-sticky'd

y.o.
03-02-2006, 06:41 AM
Were is it?

Kyuubi kid
03-02-2006, 06:45 AM
Did you click the link? Its under scanlations.
But its like 17MB! I getting now.

CRtwenty
03-02-2006, 06:51 AM
Wow... Naruto was in bad shape.

Gonna have to wait for a translation to come out though, I can't view the files from the scanlation.

Oh, best panel ever...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v163/CRtwenty/saiowned.jpg

Kyuubi kid
03-02-2006, 07:04 AM
Arrgg WTF?! the scanlation doesn't work!!!

Cr, plz refrain from posting spoilers, now I gotta dl the raw. Aw troublesome!!!

y.o.
03-02-2006, 07:05 AM
I cant get on mangahelpers I dont know why, uggghhhh! well I wait till you guys tell me all about it and then read it later I guess

Kyuubi kid
03-02-2006, 07:06 AM
I feel sorry for you yo, so here:
http://shonenpower123.free.fr/Naruto.zip

y.o.
03-02-2006, 07:14 AM
Wow, good lookin out!!

Kyuubi kid
03-02-2006, 07:16 AM
Woah, looks like Sai can perform his own type of clone jutsu. And looks like Oro is trusting Sai somewhat. Wonder whats in the envelope...

CRtwenty
03-02-2006, 07:53 AM
A translation by Sho from mangahelpers

Cover
297: Sai's Mission!!
The golden light which guides.. now it shall come forth from Hinata! (Rough translation for the cover line)

Page 2
Orochimaru- "...Danzou... so that senile old man's still alive, huh.."
Orochimaru- "..and.. what was it you wanted to speak about?"
Sai- "I have a message from Danzou-sama to give to Orochimaru-sama... actually.."
Orochimaru- "Before you do that..."
Orochimaru- "You need to consider your words carefully when talking to me... or else you'll die."
Sai- "There's no other way for me to tell what Danzou sama said... well it was to let you know that if you you were in need of something, please go for it to your heart's content."

Page 3
Orochimaru- "Hm.."
Sai- "...!"
Orochimaru- "You truly don't have any manners, don't you child?"

Page 4

Page 5
Orochimaru- "When speaking to your superiors, showing your face while talking is the polite thing to do."
Sai- "....."

Page 6
Naruto- "Hah ha" *panting*

Page 7
Sakura (the scar is healing slowly... even though now Naruto's recovery with the Kyuubi chakra was very fast.)
Yamato (... with what was said about that minefield of a 4th tail... could it be that much.?)
Sakura- "Hmmph!"
Sakura- "Uggh..!"

Page 8
Yamato- "....."
Naruto- "Uggh..."
Sakura- "....Yamato-taicho..."
Sakura- "..that jutsu you just did to stop Naruto... that jutsu... would you please teach it to me?"
Yamato- "......."
Yamato- "That's impossible... out of Konoha, the only one able to use that jutsu is myself, with my cells and compatibility with Shodai-sama."

Page 9
Yamato- "the power to hold and contain Kyuubi's chakra against its will....you wouldn't be able to do with without an experimental body that is a copy of Shodai's, or the original Shodai-sama himself..."
Sakura- "......"
Yamato- "The thing that hung upon Naruto's neck waiting was that of Shodai Hokage-sama's..."
Yamato- "The chakra that acts in concert with only Shodai Hokage-sama's is a crystalized chakra... with that the "jinchuuriki power" is controlled.."
Yamato- "It's said that Shodai Hokage-sama was enough as Hokage because he held that power... and the reason I was chosen for the captain of this group."

Page 10
Sakura- (......)
Naruto- "Hah Hah.."
Sakura- "It's always.."
Yamato- "...?.."
Sakura- "What I can give to Naruto is only so little..."

Page 11
Yamato- "........"
Yamato- "What you can do is not a problem of whether it's a small or big thing.. what's important is how much you think of and care for Naruto, right?"
Sakura- "....."
Yamato- "Phew"
Yamato- "Sakura.. if you look you will understand..you truly are."

Page 12
Naruto- "Sa-Sakura-chan..."
Sakura- "..!"
Yamato-"..!"
Naruto- "I-it hurts.."
Sakura- "..Naruto.."
Naruto- "..what... what did I do? what?.."
Naruto- "What? Sakura-chan.. why are you crying?"
Naruto- "Aa! You were hurt by Sai's bad words again weren't you? Saying things like "bitch" and "monster strength", huh? That bastard!!"
Sakura- ".. this bastard.. even saying to Tsunade 'monster strength'?"
Naruto- "..ugghh."

Page 13
Sakura- "Yamato-taicho, by the way, where's Sai?"
Orochimaru-"Saying those words... what's the basis for believing in that?"
Orochimaru- "..!"

Page 14
Sai- "!!"
Kabuto- "What's the meaning of this?"

Page 15
Orochimaru- "Kabuto... keep your composure."
Orochimaru- "Starting today this child will be my subordinate."
Kabuto- "Do you have trust in him..?"
Sai- "Please look inside that envelope... it's something from Danzou-sama to you."
Kabuto- "......."

Page 16
Orochimaru- "...this is..."
Sai- "....."
Kabuto- "What are the contents?"
Orochimaru- "Kabuto, get off that child."
Orochimaru- "We'll be taking that child with us as well.."

Page 17
Orochimaru- "So.. Sai...shall we go?"
Kabuto- "...."
Yamato- "I knew it."

Orochimaru gets away, and where are Sai's whereabouts?! Next chapter: Yamato's Guidlines

regina777
03-02-2006, 08:37 AM
Wow! this is a good morning- soo early too. i love this manga called Naruto. What an awesome chapter too. woot!!!

i guess no CR fight club this week!!!

and my hunches came to pass- sai the machine becomes one of the dark lords apprentices- what yamato does in the next chapter is what i am waiting for. i want to find his allegiance

Kyuubi kid
03-02-2006, 08:39 AM
Finally we find out about the necklace.

And ah hah! I knew Sai was going to turn into a traitor!

regina777
03-02-2006, 09:00 AM
Finally we find out about the necklace.

And ah hah! I knew Sai was going to turn into a traitor!

either he is a good actor- or he did his job for danzou well.

CRtwenty
03-02-2006, 09:14 AM
Who cares if he's a traitor... I still got to see him get impaled! Woot!

JustAnime17
03-02-2006, 10:06 AM
Hmm Intresting i got this from Stoptazmo.com there all debating it over there.. I dont have any opinions on this right now.

297 Spoiler
Sai says Leaf will stop chasing Oro and Sasuke if Oro hands out genetic material from the Uchiha clan. He refuses, but then Sai simply proposes he hands out top secret >information on the Uchiha Clan's bloodline. Yamato, while sealing off Kyuubi's chakra from Naruto, sees Kyuubi talking to him, saying how it's "Happening again, you Shodaime >person". Sai is a genetic Uchiha experiment.

graff
03-02-2006, 11:50 AM
ive read the scan and the translation and no where is that mentioned

Kaiwub
03-02-2006, 02:02 PM
Hmm Intresting i got this from Stoptazmo.com there all debating it over there.. I dont have any opinions on this right now.

297 Spoiler
Sai says Leaf will stop chasing Oro and Sasuke if Oro hands out genetic material from the Uchiha clan. He refuses, but then Sai simply proposes he hands out top secret >information on the Uchiha Clan's bloodline. Yamato, while sealing off Kyuubi's chakra from Naruto, sees Kyuubi talking to him, saying how it's "Happening again, you Shodaime >person". Sai is a genetic Uchiha experiment. That spoiler was false. Sai does talk to Orochimaru but what was said was kept secret until next chapter. I'm sure we'll find out though because Yamato heard everything. After this chapter I predict a Sasuke vs. Sai fight sometime in the near future.

regina777
03-02-2006, 03:46 PM
Who cares if he's a traitor... I still got to see him get impaled! Woot!

that was the first thing i said when i saw that. unfortunately it was his bunshin- his bunshin. Little tricks like that dont work on Oro at all- he should know since he is about to serve the dark lord.

superkhanh0
03-02-2006, 04:05 PM
maybe he pretend to b workin for oro and then backstab oro :D but i doubt it lol, sai is evil he sud get his ass kick by sasuke wen he get there :D

steve
03-02-2006, 04:30 PM
I dont think sai is evil, instead I think sai is just a tool of a higher power. A power that does not like the current state of konoha, e.g the 5th or whatnot, probably wants power for himself. This is when oro normally excels, manipulating those who are power hungry. I predict oro will find a way to strike directly at konoha, while double crossing whatever his name as.

UndrDog
03-02-2006, 04:30 PM
Unless his plan is to get to Sasuke through Oro. A dead Uchiha is better then a living one under the command of your enemy. Especially if he misplaces his eyes.

imported_Greenlitflag
03-02-2006, 05:04 PM
I dont think sai is evil, instead I think sai is just a tool of a higher power. A power that does not like the current state of konoha, e.g the 5th or whatnot, probably wants power for himself. This is when oro normally excels, manipulating those who are power hungry. I predict oro will find a way to strike directly at konoha, while double crossing whatever his name as.

My thoughts exactly. And I think that Sai most likely has something to do with sasuke (killing him, retreiving him, posioning him somehow, I dunno).

off topicish:
I find it interesting that in chapter 285 sakura says that sai looks and sounds like sasuke. I have a total speculation hunch that this might mean something.

RandomGuy
03-02-2006, 06:08 PM
Its that time again! Welcome to RG's Fight Club!

Page 3
1st Panel - Sai = Owned Biaatch!

2nd Panel - Sai = Ugly Mofo

3rd Panel - Sai = A huge load of isht with a sword through him


That concludes RG's Fight Club!

CRtwenty
03-02-2006, 06:09 PM
Its that time again! Welcome to RG's Fight Club!

Page 3
1st Panel - Sai = Owned Biaatch!

2nd Panel - Sai = Ugly Mofo

3rd Panel - Sai = A huge load of isht with a sword through him


That concludes RG's Fight Club!

No! A competitor!

Dark Blade75
03-02-2006, 06:13 PM
maybe he pretend to b workin for oro and then backstab oro :D but i doubt it lol, sai is evil he sud get his ass kick by sasuke wen he get there :D

Exactly my prediction. Sai is far too similar to kabuto to just be a double agent, i'm thinking he's a step beyond that. I think this is all a plot to infultrate oro, and gather some information.

RandomGuy
03-02-2006, 06:18 PM
No! A competitor!
Heh, I tell it like it is.

imported_partlink1
03-02-2006, 06:28 PM
quick question

is yamatos clone with oro or is the clone with sakura, and naruto?

RandomGuy
03-02-2006, 06:30 PM
I doubt the clone coulda done the technique Yamato used on Naruto, so I bet its the clone thats with Oro.

kjrav
03-02-2006, 06:54 PM
yay sai was impaled! 8) Yo!

Daninihno
03-02-2006, 07:13 PM
Impaling is always cool! but Now comes the Sai Focus Chapters it'll show him at Oro's camp chillin and do his tratior/possible spy moves

CRtwenty
03-02-2006, 07:14 PM
We'll probably see him with Sasuke before too long.

Daninihno
03-02-2006, 07:16 PM
I bet Sasuke will have the gay Orochimaru robes on

thecheat
03-02-2006, 07:51 PM
yeah and he'll have that STUPID BOW TIE THING I hate that thing soo much

DukeAbercrombie
03-02-2006, 08:17 PM
did yamato hear sais story ya think?

regina777
03-02-2006, 08:45 PM
The discussion thread has turned into one punch lines. Guys- dont you have any ideas at all to talk about- lets say something or predict away!!!!

For one thing, naruto completely forgot about his violence, power, attacks, in Kyuubi 4 tail mode. He forgot smacking sakura- which was thrilling but that leaves me wondering.

Sakuras sisterly affection for naruto is gonna get better after this. which means she will train to be stronger as a ninja as well as in her medic field. I remember the pain on her face seeing naruto yapping that he was in pain during his regenerating.

if naruto is gonna be able to at least get a sense of what he did and then decide even more to control this stage they have to tell him- especially sakura.
i almost felt soo sad for him after i realized he was completely in any kind of control

KageNaruto
03-02-2006, 09:08 PM
ig uess it was an ok chap, but rather uneventful.

lol sai impaled that was great until i figured out it was a clone.

i also found kabuto trying to rape sai entertaining

RandomGuy
03-02-2006, 10:38 PM
Oh KageNaruto...you know that chapter 297 isn't the only time Oro is gonna impale Sai...if you know what I mean.

Valleyman
03-02-2006, 11:04 PM
This chapter was really unsatisfactory.

I like it when they get to the point in chapters.

Hopefully they reveal in the next chapter exactly what Sai brought.

KageNaruto
03-02-2006, 11:43 PM
Oh KageNaruto...you know that chapter 297 isn't the only time Oro is gonna impale Sai...if you know what I mean.

yeah i can so tell thats gonna happen

y.o.
03-03-2006, 12:10 AM
see i told you that the 1sts wood jitsus was a bloodline limit , and not something only he or his genetic clones could do.
:lol:

unfourtuetly no we didnt all we really found out was that it was something ONLY he could do, and no one else which doesnt qualify as a bloodline limit, which would explain why his grandaughter cant do those jutsus

steve
03-03-2006, 01:33 AM
This was thed most beautiful epsidoe evr. I dont know if naruto can live. EAT CHRIST

y.o.
03-03-2006, 01:36 AM
????????????????????? Hooked on phonics worked for me and it can work for you too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DragoonJason
03-03-2006, 02:52 AM
What is with this death to Sakura vibe I'm getting. Where is the love. Poor girl has enough problems. And where is Sasuke. I hope in the anime they slow motion Sai's impaling and then show a replay. :D Ah yes entertainment.

y.o.
03-03-2006, 04:22 AM
Why does everyone hate sai, I think hes a decent character, exsactly what a pro shanobi should be, a emotionless killing tool!!

imported_Greenlitflag
03-03-2006, 04:35 AM
Why does everyone hate sai, I think hes a decent character, exsactly what a pro shanobi should be, a emotionless killing tool!!

I agree. Everyone's just butt-hurt because sai tells it like it is. Although I do admit, his outfit is a little fruity but that's no reason to dislike him :lol:

RandomGuy
03-03-2006, 04:58 AM
Why does everyone hate sai, I think hes a decent character, exsactly what a pro shanobi should be, a emotionless killing tool!!

I agree. Everyone's just butt-hurt because sai tells it like it is. Although I do admit, his outfit is a little fruity but that's no reason to dislike him :lol:

The only "butt-hurt" thats gonna happen is that night when Sai is aslesp and Oro isn't.

Anyway, I think everyone is just in denial about Sakura and Naruto.

I also think that there might be more to the story about Sai joining Oro. Remember, Sai was obsessed with the idea of a fake smile tricking everyone, and throughout severall points in the meeting with Oro, Sai was pulling out that smile. We all know that Sai is unable to make a smile thats meaningful. Im even gonna say that his smiling while making fun of Naruto weren't reflecting his feelings, but rather he was only testing Naruto's character out. Sai/Danzou might be up to something and Kishimoto is just leading us away. We all also know that Kishimoto loves to mislead his readers.

y.o.
03-03-2006, 05:04 AM
His outfit is very fruity, a mid drift shirt for a guy is doen right gay I dont know why kishi would do that

But I do agree about the fake smiles, what reason I dont know, maybe to show allegience or something but hes now Oro's apprentice that seems very odd to me

steve
03-03-2006, 06:21 AM
I LIKE DEADANMALS

y.o.
03-03-2006, 06:59 AM
tryin 2 get those post up I see!! At least go to the spam zone b4 you start getting threads closed out

CRtwenty
03-03-2006, 07:09 AM
Sai is just a tool at the moment. As far as we know he has no feelings of his own. And is only acting under Denzou's orders.

He's basically an example of what Haku was trying to become.

steve
03-03-2006, 07:12 AM
!M!!!! what happens if haku is reborn in sai... ah shits going down in konoha... honestly, the sai thing is just a little sideplot, the main thing is how danzou is betraying konoha and Crtwenty...
im sorry dude, I didnt mean for it to happen...
i love you still.

y.o.
03-03-2006, 07:16 AM
Haku had way too many feelings I know what he was trying to become but its really hard for me to pic him being that way, I just cant see it

CRtwenty
03-03-2006, 07:18 AM
Yes, Haku wasn unable to become a weapon. But it seems Sai was.

steve
03-03-2006, 07:20 AM
Well, we should start a petition for a happier more less sad naruto storyline I think.

Sai and naruto are best friends, they have monopoly night together,

CRtwenty
03-03-2006, 07:21 AM
God... I can just see it.

Naruto: No! I landed on your hotel, now I have no money!

Sai: Just like you have no dick?

Naruto: SHUT UP!

y.o.
03-03-2006, 07:34 AM
CR do you plan on keeping that chibi Lee and Sakura?? I do think we need a character w/ a good wholesome backround instead of these F'ed up child hoods we've been seein are disturbing and there all gonna be mental

CRtwenty
03-03-2006, 07:44 AM
I plan on keeping it until the Sakura stuff dies down.

And we DO have characters with normal childhoods... look at Sakura, Ino, Shikamaru, Chouji (ok he was made fun of for being fat, big deal), Kiba, etc.

y.o.
03-03-2006, 01:42 PM
LOL, Its really funny that that they didnt come to mind when I was thinking about that, just goes to show something bad has to happen in order for you too get noticed!!

But I was thinkin more along the lines a main character that we will be seein alot of like sauske but that's just not possible, ohh well! I guess that would be sakura, the worst she really had was being teased cause of her 4head so I take back my previous request

CRtwenty
03-03-2006, 03:19 PM
I'd say Shikamaru has gotten enough screen time to almost be considered a main character.

y.o.
03-03-2006, 03:39 PM
Not really hes had 2 fight in the chuunin exam, and fought in the sauske chace arc, but hasnt had a backstory like the other characters so I would assume neji had just as much screen time if not more

skyblue955
03-03-2006, 04:27 PM
I agree that Kishimoto is misleading us.

All Konoha ninja are very loyal to the village with the exception of Sasuke, and Orochimaru.

Although Danzou hate the Sandaime, he doesn't hate the village, at least not to the extend of betraying the whole village.

Maybe the letter is regarding something happened in the past between Danzou and Orochimaru.

RandomGuy
03-03-2006, 05:30 PM
LOL, Its really funny that that they didnt come to mind when I was thinking about that, just goes to show something bad has to happen in order for you too get noticed!!

But I was thinkin more along the lines a main character that we will be seein alot of like sauske but that's just not possible, ohh well! I guess that would be sakura, the worst she really had was being teased cause of her 4head so I take back my previous request

Heh, the best ninja are the ones who have had the worst childhoods. Naruto, Gaara, Neji, Sasuke, Lee. Yea...Well Sakura is damn good now too, but she had to lose Sasuke to get the determination to become that good. I know I know, "WAa WAaa Sasuke kunn!" buck up ho, but still it was pretty devastating for her.

KageNaruto
03-03-2006, 07:13 PM
sakura still isnt good, in my opinion, and she seems to suck at controlling her emotions big time now, if she had kyubi shed be in that form 24-7

y.o.
03-03-2006, 09:12 PM
LOL, Its really funny that that they didnt come to mind when I was thinking about that, just goes to show something bad has to happen in order for you too get noticed!!

But I was thinkin more along the lines a main character that we will be seein alot of like sauske but that's just not possible, ohh well! I guess that would be sakura, the worst she really had was being teased cause of her 4head so I take back my previous request

Heh, the best ninja are the ones who have had the worst childhoods. Naruto, Gaara, Neji, Sasuke, Lee. Yea...Well Sakura is damn good now too, but she had to lose Sasuke to get the determination to become that good. I know I know, "WAa WAaa Sasuke kunn!" buck up ho, but still it was pretty devastating for her.

Neji's hildhood wasnt all that bad, especially since he found out that his father died of his own free will, not to mention he was considered a genius since he was very young anyway, but I see your point

imported_Greenlitflag
03-03-2006, 10:35 PM
Neji's hildhood wasnt all that bad, especially since he found out that his father died of his own free will, not to mention he was considered a genius since he was very young anyway, but I see your point

Well, he only figured that out after he had grown up so technically he still had a pretty crappy childhood.

Valleyman
03-03-2006, 10:39 PM
Well, he was 13 when he found out.

regina777
03-03-2006, 11:09 PM
I agree that Kishimoto is misleading us.

All Konoha ninja are very loyal to the village with the exception of Sasuke, and Orochimaru.

Although Danzou hate the Sandaime, he doesn't hate the village, at least not to the extend of betraying the whole village.

Maybe the letter is regarding something happened in the past between Danzou and Orochimaru.

i also expect some things. i know Danzou is loyal to konoha- so irrespective of what the letter handed to oro says either he is actually using Sai as a gift to Oro to help Oro achieve his coup on konoha with Danzou holding a big position since Oro wont give him the rulership or whatever Oro might suspect in the end sai might betray Oro and get to deliver relevant info about him to danzou and konoha(of course he might get killed in the process)

KageNaruto
03-03-2006, 11:40 PM
lol i wonder what is in that note

my prediction:
Orochimaru, sai is a sex toy for you fro me that you can pound as ahrd as you want into and itll never break. in exhchange plz invade konoha and let me rule it and gain power over it

regina777
03-04-2006, 12:58 AM
lol i wonder what is in that note

my prediction:
Orochimaru, sai is a sex toy for you fro me that you can pound as ahrd as you want into and itll never break. in exhchange plz invade konoha and let me rule it and gain power over it
the toy part yes- but why would danzou who is not stronger than Oro give Oro a choice of doing the dirty job and then rather giving the glory to DANZOU. No smart astute schemer like Danzou will put such an insinuating request to his benefittor

DragoonJason
03-04-2006, 02:55 AM
lol i wonder what is in that note

my prediction:
Orochimaru, sai is a sex toy for you fro me that you can pound as ahrd as you want into and itll never break. in exhchange plz invade konoha and let me rule it and gain power over it


People, People lets not get off topic here. Foget about Oro's "sex toys" and get back to the topic at hand that is....

regina777
03-04-2006, 03:28 AM
People, People lets not get off topic here. Foget about Oro's "sex toys" and get back to the topic at hand that is....

yep!!! sex toys is unnecessary- but what is your input- what do you think danzou is planning? what is your opinion of this chapter.

one thing i want to know is what Yamato is gonna do. and also whether sakura and yamato will tell naruto allthat he did.

CRtwenty
03-04-2006, 03:30 AM
Well, it depends.

Danzou doesn't seem like the type of person who would try to destroy Konoha. So I think he's either.

1. Planning a coup d'état, so that he can become Hokage. And plans on using Orochimaru's help to accomplish this.

2. Plans on using Sai to spy on Orochimaru, and try to sabotage his plans.

Hmm, he might also be worried about Akatsuki claiming Naruto, and wants to get Orochimaru's help in attacking them. But I think that's less likely then the other options.

regina777
03-04-2006, 03:34 AM
Well, it depends.

Danzou doesn't seem like the type of person who would try to destroy Konoha. So I think he's either.

1. Trying to get rid of Tsunade, so that he can become Hokage. And plans on using Orochimaru's help to accomplish this.

2. Plans on using Sai to spy on Orochimaru, and try to sabotage his plans.

Hmm, he might also be worried about Akatsuki claiming Naruto, and wants to get Orochimaru's help in attacking them. But I think that's less likely then the other options.

both are some of the reasons i have given for his actions. but i realized that concerning the Hokage part- even if he tries Orochimaru will never relinquish leadership to him. And Danzou is smart enough to know this- so it should be something better if it is reason 1.

but i much prefer reason 2 too.

CRtwenty
03-04-2006, 03:38 AM
Well, I don't think Orochimaru would be stupid enough to try and launch another large scale invasion of Konoha. But he hates Tsunade, and would probably agree to assassinate her if provided proper incentive.

Orochimaru has a lot to offer Danzou, the question in my mind is. What will Danzou give in return? I don't think he's naive enough to think that Orochimaru would help him just because he hates Tsunade.

Maybe the Scroll of Sealing? An under the table alliance between Leaf and Sound? A promise to give Orochimaru aid in the future? I don't know. But I bet whatever he is offering, was spelled out in that letter Sai was carrying.

KageNaruto
03-04-2006, 03:22 PM
by the way, when team 7 goes back to konoha cant they just report what sai did and danzou would be busted?

CRtwenty
03-04-2006, 04:10 PM
by the way, when team 7 goes back to konoha cant they just report what sai did and danzou would be busted?

Yes, assuming that Kabuto/Orochimaru/Sai don't notice the Yamato clone spying on them.

Most likely one of them will see, and destroy the clone before it has the chance to report back to Danzou.

KageNaruto
03-04-2006, 06:31 PM
by the way, when team 7 goes back to konoha cant they just report what sai did and danzou would be busted?

Yes, assuming that Kabuto/Orochimaru/Sai don't notice the Yamato clone spying on them.

Most likely one of them will see, and destroy the clone before it has the chance to report back to Danzou.

well actually all the clone has to do is go back to yamoto

Blackmansa
03-04-2006, 08:10 PM
I think sai may havee some sort of secret power that orochimaru wants. That whole making things on paper come to life is not something any ninja could do. I do agree though that danzou wants orochimarus help in killing Tsunade but there must be some back stabbing in that plan.

p.s: U guys need to chill on the Sakura hate. Imagine how it feels like to have someone u love just leaving u (sasuke) and another person u love who u can't save from themselves(naruto). She tries so hard but can't seem to help the people she cares about. Stop hatin.

KageNaruto
03-04-2006, 08:35 PM
I think sai may havee some sort of secret power that orochimaru wants. That whole making things on paper come to life is not something any ninja could do. I do agree though that danzou wants orochimarus help in killing Tsunade but there must be some back stabbing in that plan.

p.s: U guys need to chill on the Sakura hate. Imagine how it feels like to have someone u love just leaving u (sasuke) and another person u love who u can't save from themselves(naruto). She tries so hard but can't seem to help the people she cares about. Stop hatin.

we ahte her for soooooooooooooo many more reasons than that. sakura desrves to die!

kjrav
03-05-2006, 12:36 AM
You hate her i love her so there hahahahahahaha :lol: hahahahah.though i do hat sasuke some what he should die. 8) Yo!

Vishox
03-05-2006, 02:48 AM
sai is what is needed for sasuke to appear in the manga.

thats because sai is going to try something sneeky at oros place and sasuke pwns him.

cant wait to see who takes sais place now, perhaps some other killing machine who shows no emotion...

y.o.
03-05-2006, 06:14 AM
by the way, when team 7 goes back to konoha cant they just report what sai did and danzou would be busted?

Yes, assuming that Kabuto/Orochimaru/Sai don't notice the Yamato clone spying on them.

Most likely one of them will see, and destroy the clone before it has the chance to report back to Danzou.

well actually all the clone has to do is go back to yamoto


I dont think he even has to go back to yamato, I think they got this esp thing going on, cause most people rarely ever tell their clones what to do they just all seem to be of 1 mind so to speak

superkhanh0
03-05-2006, 10:46 AM
now they can go back to konoha and put donzo(sp) ass in jail, yamato saw and heard the convo rite or atleast take out his other eye

KageNaruto
03-05-2006, 02:58 PM
by the way, when team 7 goes back to konoha cant they just report what sai did and danzou would be busted?

Yes, assuming that Kabuto/Orochimaru/Sai don't notice the Yamato clone spying on them.

Most likely one of them will see, and destroy the clone before it has the chance to report back to Danzou.

well actually all the clone has to do is go back to yamoto


I dont think he even has to go back to yamato, I think they got this esp thing going on, cause most people rarely ever tell their clones what to do they just all seem to be of 1 mind so to speak

yeah it hought of that too i just wasnt sure how to post it without sounding stupid

Ichee
03-05-2006, 07:55 PM
I hope a Ninja war starts because of whatever Sai gave Orochimaru that should be a nice arc.

KageNaruto
03-05-2006, 08:04 PM
another ninja war? too bring and repetitive

y.o.
03-06-2006, 01:15 AM
I wouldnt like to see that myself, Im alot more interested in sauske and atkuski, it should be coming to the time sauske confronts itachi again, and can actually put up a fight

noelsque
03-06-2006, 03:09 AM
Why does everyone hate sai, I think hes a decent character, exsactly what a pro shanobi should be, a emotionless killing tool!!

exactly. however in the story of naruto. konoha the storngest among the 4 hidden villages doesn't think that way. so you can't blame us for hating sai or danzou for that matter. they are rebellious of the konoha way despite the village's ouststanding reputation.

but for reality sake. acient ninja in japan are not exactly what we thought to be unemotional. they were just farmers who opposed the samurai way. they became ninja for the sake of their families. to prevent the samurai from abusing their families. thus, i can say a real ninja would never leave his or her comrades. just as depicted in konoha.

noelsque
03-06-2006, 03:19 AM
I agree that Kishimoto is misleading us.

All Konoha ninja are very loyal to the village with the exception of Sasuke, and Orochimaru.

Although Danzou hate the Sandaime, he doesn't hate the village, at least not to the extend of betraying the whole village.

Maybe the letter is regarding something happened in the past between Danzou and Orochimaru.

i also expect some things. i know Danzou is loyal to konoha- so irrespective of what the letter handed to oro says either he is actually using Sai as a gift to Oro to help Oro achieve his coup on konoha with Danzou holding a big position since Oro wont give him the rulership or whatever Oro might suspect in the end sai might betray Oro and get to deliver relevant info about him to danzou and konoha(of course he might get killed in the process)


gee... i don't know about that guys... danzou doesn't like sandaime ran the village. in fact sandaime ran the village as the 1st and 2nd did. after all he was their student. danzou was a rival to the hokage titile back then... but i think the 1st and 2nd hokage saw something in danzou, as sandaime saw something in orochimaru, which lead sandaime to choose the yondaime we know over orochimaru... i guess something like that happened between sarutobi and danzou.

now, danzou is having contact with oro in secret.... now tell me who is the right mind would do that... that's conspiracy.... now if the letter contains something unfavorable for konoha, danzou is guilty of conspiracy to treason.

the bottom line... danzou is a bad sign.....

Pryce
03-06-2006, 06:29 AM
[quote=noelsque]
exactly. however in the story of naruto. konoha the storngest among the 4 hidden villages doesn't think that way. so you can't blame us for hating sai or danzou for that matter. they are rebellious of the konoha way despite the village's ouststanding reputation.

but for reality sake. acient ninja in japan are not exactly what we thought to be unemotional. they were just farmers who opposed the samurai way. they became ninja for the sake of their families. to prevent the samurai from abusing their families. thus, i can say a real ninja would never leave his or her comrades. just as depicted in konoha.

0.o there are so many things wrong with this post its not even funny

1.the leaf isnt the strongest because of the attack by sound and sand

2.they do think that way because they say completing a mission is more mportant than their LIVES no less emotions

3.and Danzou probly thinks its for the good of the village that he loves remember these ninjas put the village above their own lives no less someone elses...and sai is just following his mission like the old saying goes "dont shoot the messenger"

4.wdf FARMERS im just going to say u are wrong on that one. i think everyone reading this know what a real ninja is so i dont need to say anything further

5.overall your post was trash filled with false information and nonsence opions

JustAnime17
03-06-2006, 07:40 AM
One thing... stop bashing peoples posts and calling them "nonsense opinions" you can correct them but dont do it in a rude way.

RandomGuy
03-06-2006, 08:23 AM
0.o there are so many things wrong with this post its not even funny

1.the leaf isnt the strongest because of the attack by sound and sand

2.they do think that way because they say completing a mission is more mportant than their LIVES no less emotions

3.and Danzou probly thinks its for the good of the village that he loves remember these ninjas put the village above their own lives no less someone elses...and sai is just following his mission like the old saying goes "dont shoot the messenger"

4.wdf FARMERS im just going to say u are wrong on that one. i think everyone reading this know what a real ninja is so i dont need to say anything further

5.overall your post was trash filled with false information and nonsence opions

Seriously Pryce, either get a clue or just be quiet. I hate to resort to flaming, but I hate it when people flame people for "false information" when its actually true. Ninja WERE people like farmers. Go look it up instead of saying shit like "I think everyone knows what ninja are." Jesus, what you "know" is the Japanese legends/folk tales and more of the American stereotypical popular bullshit. You dont need to say "wdf you are so wrong on that. Your post is trash and nonsense"[/quote]

CRtwenty
03-06-2006, 08:58 AM
Well... Ninjas weren't quite farmers. Though that may have been their original job. The traditional ninja clan (though all members were probably not related) would act as assassins and spies for a Daiyamo, or other high official.

Certain legends say that Ninja were originally a group of farmers who refused to side with a certain noble. In order to defend from the Noble's soldiers, they taught all their men and women how to fight using common tools (since it was forbidden for anybody other then a soldier or samurai to carry weapons). In time this group became more skilled, and started hiring themselves out to others, branching off into many ninja clans.

Of course it's hard to get any real info on Ninjas, since they didn't leave many traces of their existence.

Pryce
03-06-2006, 05:25 PM
...get a clue?? thats got to be one of the lamest things i ever heard. listen up randomguy look what ever i think ima type it and ima be blunt about it I'm not gonna suger-coat anything i say so if u dont like what i'm saying when u see my avatar and sigs dont read the words in bewteen them point blank. If I'm not braking no rules then why would i change? If anything your in the wrong because u didnt say anything about the topic. and if u want to flame me the go ahead but i got to warn u I been roastin folks for years on the internet and off in fact thats one of the only things im good at so if u want to start be my guest

kjrav
03-06-2006, 06:05 PM
2. Hate/Discriminatory/Flame posters will be warned once before suspension of posting privilages for a week. If not reformed upon return, poster will be removed from the forum. Post with respect.

As you can see pryce if you had acutually read the rules flaming is against the rules and a pretty big offense.so be my guest and start flaming people but if you get caught by a mod you could get suspended and eventually removed. :D

Pryce
03-06-2006, 06:19 PM
were in my post did i flame just quote it and ill get back to you. but Seriously "flaming" is attacking a person on a personal level so im going to keep doin like i always do on forums and if u think thats bad u should see the stuff i say when i'm realy flaming

kjrav
03-06-2006, 06:23 PM
look man im not trying to start a conflict im just sayin' flamings against the rules kay.

RandomGuy
03-06-2006, 06:53 PM
...get a clue?? thats got to be one of the lamest things i ever heard. listen up randomguy look what ever i think ima type it and ima be blunt about it I'm not gonna suger-coat anything i say so if u dont like what i'm saying when u see my avatar and sigs dont read the words in bewteen them point blank. If I'm not braking no rules then why would i change? If anything your in the wrong because u didnt say anything about the topic. and if u want to flame me the go ahead but i got to warn u I been roastin folks for years on the internet and off in fact thats one of the only things im good at so if u want to start be my guest

Haha, then be blunt like you say youre gonna be instead of trying to ridicule what i say. "...get a clue?? thats got to be one of the lamest things i ever heard." Its pretty lame of you to try to pull that on me. You dont even address what I say and instead try to make me sound stupid. Try again, because anyone can uselessly insult someone without supporting what they say. You can call what I say "suger-coating", but I personally dont like to get personal when it comes to arguments online. All Im saying is, before you start ridiculing people back your posts up, because youve already made the mistake of talking shit to someone while being wrong.

KageNaruto
03-07-2006, 12:55 AM
[quote=noelsque]
exactly. however in the story of naruto. konoha the storngest among the 4 hidden villages doesn't think that way. so you can't blame us for hating sai or danzou for that matter. they are rebellious of the konoha way despite the village's ouststanding reputation.

but for reality sake. acient ninja in japan are not exactly what we thought to be unemotional. they were just farmers who opposed the samurai way. they became ninja for the sake of their families. to prevent the samurai from abusing their families. thus, i can say a real ninja would never leave his or her comrades. just as depicted in konoha.

0.o there are so many things wrong with this post its not even funny

1.the leaf isnt the strongest because of the attack by sound and sand

2.they do think that way because they say completing a mission is more mportant than their LIVES no less emotions

3.and Danzou probly thinks its for the good of the village that he loves remember these ninjas put the village above their own lives no less someone elses...and sai is just following his mission like the old saying goes "dont shoot the messenger"

4.wdf FARMERS im just going to say u are wrong on that one. i think everyone reading this know what a real ninja is so i dont need to say anything further

5.overall your post was trash filled with false information and nonsence opions

actually your post has as much/more false information than his

regina777
03-07-2006, 11:14 AM
actually your post has as much/more false information than his

can you please indicate what is wrong about his posts. it will be relieving and more relevant to hear your reasoning too.

Flaming- whatever people may call it may not be the issue. It is more about disputing, supporting, or making a statement. It becomes a problem when words like "you", "your" in referrence to anothers post go with "wrong", "suck","no sense at all"- this here is the incitement, the prelude to the flaming or war of words and insults. Please tolerate each others post and get back on topic. it is a friendly atmosphere so contribute too and dont just post- make contributions/discussions.
we have 298 in about two days. i predict it is going to be a dull chapter. ie no fighting (i doubt yamato will try to stop sai from going- he is so afraid of Oro). i am interested to know whether Yamato is the same guy who handed Sai his mission letter. His next move should give us a lot of indication on his allegiance- i will like him to be with Team 7- he will be a great help especially if jiraiyas chakra suppression tags should not be used- like during fights with a great enemy-but it wont happen- will it?

DukeAbercrombie
03-07-2006, 03:02 PM
One thing... stop bashing peoples posts and calling them "nonsense opinions" you can correct them but dont do it in a rude way.ya i agree. but it is kinda funny when you say something, and some jerks calls you names for it, but later you all find out that you were right and they were wrong hahaha

phoenix
03-07-2006, 06:09 PM
yeah its all fun and all but lets get back to the topic

imported_Greenlitflag
03-07-2006, 06:15 PM
I agree with regina, I think this next chapter is going to be boring.

Omaki_Roku
03-07-2006, 08:01 PM
a lot of people in here have the feelings of a 3 year old girl. you have to be careful even the littlest poke at fun will be claimed as a Flame and you will be banned and labeled as an outlaw

kjrav
03-07-2006, 09:30 PM
In the near future of naruto i forsee alot of dialogue but not nessecarily boring I think we'll find out som important facts that will clearup quite a few things. 8) Yo!

Glorious Ular
03-08-2006, 01:31 AM
Yes i agree,
As the series winds to the middle it will start to clear untold stories and mysteryies. They might have more fighting or they wont. Its hard to tell. But there will be more plot unfolding.

renedox
03-08-2006, 05:28 AM
Sai reminds me of Sojiro from Rurouni Kenshin, the guy with no feelings.

It'll be interesting to find out about his past.

y.o.
03-08-2006, 07:24 AM
Lately hes been smiling to much to have no feelings, even though I know he said his smiling was fake!

CRtwenty
03-08-2006, 08:14 AM
He's smiling because Denzou told him it made him appear like less of a threat. It has no feeling behind it.

Pryce
03-08-2006, 08:18 AM
maby he just doesn't have trong emotions but small ones like shock or slight anger(like when kobuto attacked him)

KageNaruto
03-08-2006, 05:03 PM
actually he just scringed his face that time like he got hurt, i dont think thats really an emotion

RandomGuy
03-08-2006, 05:25 PM
The only change in expression hes really had is when hes in pain, or at least supposed to be in pain. He still hasn't shown any emotion yet.

CRtwenty
03-08-2006, 05:27 PM
Well, he showed a brief bit of emotion when he looked at that picture of his brother... or whoever it was.

noelsque
03-09-2006, 12:00 AM
[quote=noelsque]
exactly. however in the story of naruto. konoha the storngest among the 4 hidden villages doesn't think that way. so you can't blame us for hating sai or danzou for that matter. they are rebellious of the konoha way despite the village's ouststanding reputation.

but for reality sake. acient ninja in japan are not exactly what we thought to be unemotional. they were just farmers who opposed the samurai way. they became ninja for the sake of their families. to prevent the samurai from abusing their families. thus, i can say a real ninja would never leave his or her comrades. just as depicted in konoha.

0.o there are so many things wrong with this post its not even funny

1.the leaf isnt the strongest because of the attack by sound and sand

2.they do think that way because they say completing a mission is more mportant than their LIVES no less emotions

3.and Danzou probly thinks its for the good of the village that he loves remember these ninjas put the village above their own lives no less someone elses...and sai is just following his mission like the old saying goes "dont shoot the messenger"

4.wdf FARMERS im just going to say u are wrong on that one. i think everyone reading this know what a real ninja is so i dont need to say anything further

5.overall your post was trash filled with false information and nonsence opions

hey pryce...

it is clear you know nothing of the japanese history.... ninja were farmers... check the japanese history... it woul help you a lot... have some stock knowledge... stu___-

2ndly read my post carefully before you tell me i'm wrong... i didn't state that konoha is the strongest... what i wrote was that despite the konoha's outstanding reputation...

so don't tell me my post is a trash punk!!!

i'm asking the moderators to check on people who post to discredit other fellows who post on this amazing forum....

KageNaruto
03-09-2006, 12:56 AM
actually konoha still is the strongest

timeforsleeep
03-09-2006, 02:49 AM
I was always under the impression that the village w/ the greatest military power was the mist village.

I forget where I read that, but can someone chime in?

CRtwenty
03-09-2006, 09:00 AM
No, Leaf WAS the strongest, prior to the war.
Mist was just the most bloodthirsty out of the five great nations.

As for who is the strongest now. We don't really know.

markstaroxx
03-09-2006, 11:29 AM
I think Leaf is the strongest.........But the sand aint too far behind I think.

CRtwenty
03-09-2006, 06:32 PM
I'd guess that Rock and Cloud are the strongest at the moment. Since they weren't involved with the War against Konoha. And don't seem to have the internal problems that Mist has (remember, the Water Country is apparently in the middle of a civil war)

Glorious Ular
03-09-2006, 10:53 PM
Id have to say that Rock, Sand, or Rain are on the tops.

CRtwenty
03-09-2006, 10:58 PM
Not Rain... they're bloodthirsty but they're not even one of the Great Shinobi Nations. So they don't even have a Kage.

Valleyman
03-09-2006, 11:10 PM
Yeah, Konaha was the strongest, because, if you remember, they fought both the Sand and the Sound and lost a little over half of their military power against the TWO villages.


But after that, they weakened greatly. You don't make many new EXCELLENT ninjas in that 3 or 4 year period.

It'll take awhile to recoop most likely.

It's hard to tell who is the strongest.

RandomGuy
03-11-2006, 01:38 PM
Well either way, no ones gonna mess with Konoha because Sands got their back. I dont think the mindset of the other villages have evolved enough to form lasting alliances with each other and none of them are strong enough to take both Konoha and Sand. I bet Konoha would be able to rebuild to become the single strongest again, but I dont think that only 3 years, after being devastated by 2 nations, is enough to rebuild to become the strongest again. In my opinion itd be Mist. They weren't involved in the attack and weve seen incredible ninja come from that place, like Zabuza, Haku, and Kisame. Stone is pretty good too imo from what weve seen in Kakashi Gaiden, and I think Deidara was originally from Stone too.

CRtwenty
03-11-2006, 05:08 PM
Well, Mist seems to have lots of powerful Ninjas, but from what we've seen, it's frequently the target of attacks from inside the country (IE Zabuza's attempt to kill the Mizukage, or Kimimaro's Clan attacking) not to mention the country itself is very unstable, as lots of Ninja clans seem to live in the country outside of the Village. I see it as being a lot like the country of Israel, having a very strong military, but lacking the ability to really deploy it, since it's forced to be on the defensive so often.

We know next to nothing about Cloud and Stone. But they seem to be fairly stable, so I'd imagine they're the strongest at the moment. Since Sand and Leaf are still recovering from their war with each other.

However, Sand and Leaf are very close now (thanks to Tsunade, and also Naruto and Gaara), so messing with one would lead to the other getting involved. I doubt any of Shinobi nations would be stupid enough to challenge two other nations at once.

y.o.
03-12-2006, 06:21 AM
I think we really need some more instight on the lightning, and stone villiages! Like it was stated we know next to nothing about them, and we've only seen 2 kages in the manga, we havent seen any of the other kages at all, I would rally like to know more about them and thier fighting stlyes etc....

kjrav
03-12-2006, 12:13 PM
Depending on how long the manga goes we'll see them alot later ,a little later or not at all. 8) Yo!

Valleyman
03-12-2006, 07:37 PM
Yeah, we have yet to see the three other kages.

UndrDog
03-13-2006, 01:41 PM
Aw, we've seen three Kages... Just two are from the sand. lol

And I do not think that the Leaf is as strong as even we think it is at this point. I mean before the time skip wouldn't taking back Sasuke be top priority? He is the last touchable Uchiha and on top of that he is hanging out with the guy who took out three quarters of your villiage and has a top-notch medical ninja. Put two and two together and you have a villiage who has the potential to genetically engineer a new Sharingon Clan. And as we all know the Sound have no problems screwing with people's bodies. We see Kabuto carving up people, Orochimaru doing his experiments, and the anime supports this heavily with the fillers. We know what Orochimaru really wants done with Sasuke's body right now, but that can't be said for certain. Konoha can't assume this is what will happen. And losing what was your second strongest clan to a villiage who was able to cripple your villiage is a calamity. Even though they used the Sand to do most of the damage it was still done by the Sound by infiltrating a powerful ally.

What else do we know about the fire nation? What else is there other then the Leaf? Is the Leaf the only outpost for the Fire's shinobi?

Glorious Ular
03-18-2006, 07:00 PM
ya i wanna see konohas other alies if they have some more from fire.

y.o.
03-21-2006, 06:52 AM
I dont think konoha is alies w/ anyone else maybe small unimportant countries but none of the major countries such as stone, lightning, and hidden mist!!