Sasuke or Naruto

[Knightfall]

When Orochimaru said that Naruto is still not strong enough to beat Sasuke, did you believe him? Well it's your turn to choose, over the two to three years after their climatic fight, who do you think has truly gotten stronger?

[steve]

It depends on whether Naruto uses Kyuubi chakra and if so, how much, as in, how many tails, or just simple berserk mode?

In terms of pure skill, probably sasuke is more competent.... in terms of raw power, naruto is the cheese.

[Pryce]

naruo i dont think i need to tell why

[BlackHawkLV]

Oro said that Sasuke is stronger then Naruto with 3 tails, that can be true. But if Naruto could dmg Oro with 4 then he would beat Sasuke too. But he wount go to 4 tail mode against Sasuke 'coz he wants to save him not kill him. So I think that Sasuke is stronger.

[Diceman5000]

Sorry, I misunderstood the question so I am editing my answer. I think Naruto is stronger then Sasuke. I think that even baby Naruto would mess Sasuke up. As long as Naruto has the Kyubii Sasuke can't beat him. The only one to come close was Kabuto.

[Pryce]

yeah oro didnt say ANYTHING about tails he did say sasuke was stronger but he got whoped to the point of needing a new body and he didnt even damage naruto and "the kybii" is his power he had it since he was born and he will probly have when he dies and if akatsuki take it then naruto will die theres no he wount us it on sasuke because he alredy did REMEMBER

well i dont think i have to say anything eles

[Valleyman]

Guys, I honestly think the only reason Oro said Sasuke is alot stronger is to make Naruto mad. We won't know for sure until we see them fight or something.

[CRtwenty]

We haven't seen Sasuke yet, so it's hard to tell.

[DukeAbercrombie]

...........

[Valleyman]

We haven't seen Sasuke yet, so it's hard to tell.

Exactly. It kind of makes me wonder why people make threads like this when we haven't even seen Sasuke in a long time.

[KageNaruto]

well unless oro invented a new more powerul curse seal sasuke is much weaker.


however when ppl say naruto without kyubi sucks, sasuke without curse seal sucks more

[Hellchild915]

It is hard to tell till sasuke appears so I will answer later

[Hiyo]

however when ppl say naruto without kyubi sucks, sasuke without curse seal sucks more

Huh? Sasuke with just sharingan and no curse seal was able to fight Naruto who was using kyuubi (tail-less kyuubi usage).

Sasuke without the curse seal is far more powerful with Naruto without Kyuubi.

Why don't even know how powerful Sasuke is with curse seal 2 and sharingan. All he did was create a chidori and fly at Naruto head on. And we know both of them held back. For all we know curse seal 2 sasuke could be pretty bad ass with a little training.

[KageNaruto]

actually sasuke was getting the power of the curse seal the whole time, he states "i feel more powerful" or something and u saw his funky face, why he made it go away im not sure, but the curse seal was still giving him chakra the whole time

[Hiyo]

actually sasuke was getting the power of the curse seal the whole time, he states "i feel more powerful" or something and u saw his funky face, why he made it go away im not sure, but the curse seal was still giving him chakra the whole time

No, after he chidori'd Naruto through the chest he turned it off. Then he got his ass handed to him by Kyuubi Naruto. Then they had a little talk and Sasuke resolved to defeat Naruto and obtained 3 dots for both eyes. Then he fought Naruto purely with sharingan.... no curse seal. Naruto got his butt handed to him and then when to the 1 tail kyuubi form which made Sasuke have to go to curse seal 2 + sharingan.

[Kyuubi kid]

I actually want Sasuke to become god like in power. Then Naruto can be the under dog character again and will have to struggle against him to win.

[Supreme Alchemist Fan]

Naruto. I don't really dig Sasuke and his hunger for power and such. You can't be powerful unless you have loved ones to further your skills. Sasuke was becoming strong when he cared for Naruto and Sakura.....but now? I bet he'll slightly be weaker.

[Hiyo]

Well, advancing sharingan seems to require making and breaking relational bonds between the Uchiha member and the people around him. If Sasuke was to remind friends with Naruto he probably wouldn't have been able to obtain 3dotted sharingan. Then there is mang sharigan which seems to require killing his best friend. shrug.

[kjrav]

Well, advancing sharingan seems to require making and breaking relational bonds between the Uchiha member and the people around him. If Sasuke was to remind friends with Naruto he probably wouldn't have been able to obtain 3dotted sharingan. Then there is mang sharigan which seems to require killing his best friend. shrug.

Not true both Kakshi and Itachi had friends when they gained 3rd pupil and kakashi gained mange without killing any friends! 8) Yo!

[Hiyo]

Ahh i'm only a silly anime watcher so I never bothered to figure out how kakashi managed to get mang yet :P

[Valleyman]

Well, don't you think that might help a little bit before you get into detailed discussions?

[KageNaruto]

Ahh i'm only a silly anime watcher so I never bothered to figure out how kakashi managed to get mang yet :P

thats ok cause it wasnt mentioned and we dont know

[SoLiD_MeTaL]

dunno there both 1 of meh favourites on the show but since naruto has the nine tail demon fox....

[Daninihno]

if naruto has the intent to kill he would beat Sasuke but if he didn';t have that intent like when they fought on the body of water a intent to try to save he would loose. nothing can stop a crazied boy with a demon's powers leeking from him.

if naruto and Sasuke knew what they did right now but with out the Sharingan or Kyuubi I think Naruto would have a difficult time beating Sasuke but I think it would end in a draw,even without Kyuubi Naruto still has alot of power and what Sasuke lacks, determination for a positive cause

[y.o.]

I agree, Naruto has too much stamina for sauske, but Im sure sauske will try to find a way to end the fight asap, so naruto wont be able to use that to his advantage

[regina777]

I actually want Sasuke to become god like in power. Then Naruto can be the under dog character again and will have to struggle against him to win.

this is something i agree with you. I wonder what naruto will do then? the guy is soo obsessed with getting sasuke back even though sasuke knew fully well what he was bargaining for- it seems almost unreal. so i have considered what naruto will do if his strength is not enough to beat up sasuke senseless, carry his unconscious body back to sakura and konoha?

that will be an interesting plot- unfortunately with kyuubi inside naruto it may not be possible

[CRtwenty]

Even if he does bring Sasuke back. He has a vendetta against Akatsuki now. Which could serve to motivate him.

[regina777]

Even if he does bring Sasuke back. He has a vendetta against Akatsuki now. Which could serve to motivate him.

will he have a chance against those monster strength akatsuki guys? maybe one on one but what if he gets ganged by two of them. Yeah!! this is where i am very afraid for naruto. but probably jiraiya or somebody else would be always beside him or guarding him in the shadows.

this is also why i am dreaming of seeing naruto be able to control all his kyuubi transformations. if he can-imagine a transformed but in control naruto fighting akatsuki while on Gamabunta.

[Valleyman]

It's definently getting interesting, that's for sure.

[Holger]

I think Oro is just trying to intimidate Naruto to make his kyuubi chalkra to rise. He’s sort of testing Naruto....I think.

[ArenaNinja]

I think Oro is just trying to intimidate Naruto to make his kyuubi chalkra to rise. He’s sort of testing Naruto....I think.That's what I've said since they started fighting.. and now at the end of the fight it looks that way for sure anyways.

[y.o.]

He stopped all the intimidation after the 4th tail, he knew if he went any further he wouldnt stand a chance and had to get serious

As far as I c it naruto hasnt really gotten all that stronger, hes just gotten more tails which is a dissapointment in my eyes

[SoLiD_MeTaL]

more tails? isnt that good if he gets all 9 tails he gets some sort of power doesent he (havent watched in awhile)

[CRtwenty]

more tails? isnt that good if he gets all 9 tails he gets some sort of power doesent he (havent watched in awhile)

No... as it is Four-Tails nearly killed him, and everybody around him. At his current level releasing all Nine would be suicide.

[KageNaruto]

im pretty sure releasing a 6 tail would kill him on the spot

[kjrav]

Not nesscisarily we dont know what type of transformation is caused after 4 tails it may be less harmful. 8) Yo!

[KageNaruto]

true but if it increses in intesnsity like the others weve seen so far it should kill him

[Kazashi The Dragon]

but it night not be a transformation as where it increases the intensity it could be more skill or more control for the kyuubi...of course ther will be some increase but i think it would be more abillity like that black ball attack maybe the 5th tail or so unlocks some of the nine-tails abilities/skills like the sand demon(i forget his name) had that air bullet tech, im sure the kyuubi has a whole wack of unique skills naruto can use as he gains more tails

but this is just a guess no real facts

[KageNaruto]

dude... if it helps naruto control the kyubi he might as well go 9tails now. every tail nuleashes more chakra, thus causing naruto more damage and causing him to loose his mind even more

[kjrav]

The only problem is we dont know what is to come from the next tail either of you could be right or a number of differentscenarios but in my opinion its a peice of both of your theories i think kyubbi will gain more control but the rise of chackra will cause more damage but the only problem is if the kyubbi is the cause of such damage wouldnt he want to slow that down as not to kill naruto and in the process himself. 8) Yo!

[y.o.]

I agee I wouldnt say more than 4 would kill him it might have less side effects than previously seen! I would say if 4 tails make such a drastic change then another one wont happen till 8 tails but he will most likely stay the same but gain more size and face looks more like a fox

[regina777]

I agee I wouldnt say more than 4 would kill him it might have less side effects than previously seen! I would say if 4 tails make such a drastic change then another one wont happen till 8 tails but he will most likely stay the same but gain more size and face looks more like a fox
yeah!! kyuubi should be smart enough to know what he does to naruto if he gives him too much power. of course nobody knows whether he knows or not. Nevertheless i agree that with the other forms of releases we have seen- lees in this case- going higher might end up been more dangerous.. Which is exactly what most of us are afraid of happening and expect to.
yet, it is also possible that to be able to go higher than 4 means a much more stronger and smarter naruto- able to make seals, etc etc. which might end up been a much more controllable scenario than we fear.

[sladd56]

does anyone else think this series would just be better off without all of these ripoffs of super saiyans?naruto has the 9 tail fox, he should just improve his fox form, instead of having 9 different forms.gaara has the raccoon spirit, which is one tail, but still more powerful than 1 tail naruto.then they brought the curse seal into the picture, and if that wasn't bad enough, curse seal level 2, and didn't they say there were more?even lee and gai have super forms. is japanese entertainment purely made out of super forms? even sonic the hedgehog has a super form.why can't they work on skill-based strength, instead of the ability to grow golden hair, or grow in size?

[KageNaruto]

does anyone else think this series would just be better off without all of these ripoffs of super saiyans?naruto has the 9 tail fox, he should just improve his fox form, instead of having 9 different forms.gaara has the raccoon spirit, which is one tail, but still more powerful than 1 tail naruto.then they brought the curse seal into the picture, and if that wasn't bad enough, curse seal level 2, and didn't they say there were more?even lee and gai have super forms. is japanese entertainment purely made out of super forms? even sonic the hedgehog has a super form.why can't they work on skill-based strength, instead of the ability to grow golden hair, or grow in size?

super sayains dont grow in size, and naruto is really really different from dbz. besides kyubi power is part of the entire plot of naruto. remember, most ninjas still dont change, besides super sayain is from the user's own power, and the demons are the ones who provide the power, or oro in the curse seal case

[imported_dunha]

More tails, less Naruto, More Kiuuby.

Naruto with 9 tails, seal gone, Naruto Dead, Kiuuby released.

The demon seemed quite pleased giving Naruto the fourth tails. Perhaps this is why.

[kjrav]

He was pleased cuase naruto was embracing him not cause naruto was gettin hurt.

[CRtwenty]

Kyuubi/Naruto?

Now THAT'S one hell of a yaoi pairing.

[KageNaruto]

Kyuubi/Naruto?

Now THAT'S one hell of a yaoi pairing.

saw 2 on ff.net. it creeped me out two, theres a lot of femkyubinaru though, it hink at least 8

[CRtwenty]

I don't really get how it'd be possible though. Unless Naruto learned how to enter his own mind at will.

And even then, it's just... weird. I mean jeez, Kisame/Kakashi makes more sense then this.

[y.o.]

What the hell is a yaoi, and Im completly lost on whats going on in this topic

[Blessed Devil]

Yaoi is a boy-boy relationship.

Yuri is a girl-girl.

[y.o.]

I feel dirty just knowing that, now!