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rocklee20170
02-18-2006, 01:29 AM
During this latest fight with the half hollow guy, i know that the 3 shigimas (sorry for spelling in this) broke there seal to defeat the half hollows, but did he even have a seal to begin with? or was he considered not powerful enough because of his rank?

graff
02-18-2006, 12:47 PM
ive been thinking about that as well and couldnt really come up with an answer. ohhhh no he didnt have a seal cause he was the third seat.

imported_Aizen-diacho
02-18-2006, 01:02 PM
yup he didn't have a seal but he is vice captian material but th eperosn wholding the vice captian seat in his division is still stronger than him.iakaku can even beocme a captain because he can use bankia.

regina777
02-18-2006, 05:31 PM
all the answers above are my impressions exactly. unless Soul Society has a way of making powerful shinigamis who decide to avoid the seals by some sort of way like -Ikkaku and Rukia- have some sort of limitations then the only explanation is he fought with his full strength.

and then it keeps me thinking, if he fougt with his full strength why did he almost die from the encouter? why i ask this question is because after the limiters were removed the shinigamis gained an upperhand including the vice-captains and those with bankai gained immeasurable advantage- but if ikkaku with bankai capabilities and apparently no limitations struggled as such then the shinigamis might have lost more than just a few injuries if they hadnt had limitations in the first place

rocklee20170
02-18-2006, 08:56 PM
I was thinking that becuse of his rank he didnt have a seal, and maby he was new with the whole *banki* thing so he was kinda week, but then again ichigo was super powerful when he was extreamly new at it. Well i hope he did have a seal cuz that means hes way more powerful.

Daninihno
02-25-2006, 05:10 AM
ummmm it said it puts a limit on all shingamis so they don't cause total Chaos. he didn't get his limit removed because he was done with his fight if he didn't finish his fight so early he would have torn that loser part! :twisted:

rocklee20170
02-27-2006, 12:07 AM
ya i doubt that, im pritty sure he jest didnt have one in the first place. but im saying if he did have one that would be great, cuz i loved that battle, and to think hes stronger then that! then he would so be captain level.

graff
02-27-2006, 07:29 AM
only captains and vice captains have seals put on them and that was clearly stated in the manga though where i dont know.

keithalious
03-20-2006, 10:44 PM
"During this latest fight with the half hollow guy, i know that the 3 shigimas (sorry for spelling in this) broke there seal to defeat the half hollows, but did he even have a seal to begin with? or was he considered not powerful enough because of his rank?"

yes ikkaku did have a limit on him. Yumichika called up soul society and had it realeased in chapter 204. He also recommended to soul society that the limit be released on all of the shingami

keigari
03-21-2006, 10:01 AM
yoz.... you're question is pretty hard. I think Ikkaku was more interested in having fun than actually being serious about the fight. I don't think that he actually unleashed his bankai in such a way that he WAS doing it SERIOUSLY. About increasing the limits, I think that he had a seal but didn't care whatsoever. Anyway, he was powerful enough to fight the arrancar without the seal (he fought before they increased the limits).

keithalious
03-21-2006, 04:50 PM
Anyway, he was powerful enough to fight the arrancar without the seal (he fought before they increased the limits).
his seal was released right before he did his bankai by Yumichika who like i said in my last post called soul society and asked for just ikkakus to be released. check manga chapter 204.

Vishox
03-22-2006, 05:22 AM
ikkaku had his bankai for a while, although probably didn't use it against ichigo because he underestimated him, ended up getting houzukimaru broken and blacked out after the final blow. it made it convenient for the next stage of the plot as well when bankai finally got brought up.

ikkaku probably never had a limit either, which would make sense. he managed to beat edorado who was on a similar level in release mode, and not talk to himself about "please hold out a little longer" like the other three combatants.

tsunade ^_^
03-22-2006, 07:47 AM
Naah! I dnt think so!

Vishox
03-22-2006, 10:17 AM
Naah! I dnt think so!

warum? o.0

tsunade ^_^
03-22-2006, 10:29 AM
wo_Ot? Me only speaks, english, Afrikaans and a tad bit of german! I dono wot dat means

Vishox
03-22-2006, 10:56 AM
warum = whyyyyyyyy????

tsunade ^_^
03-22-2006, 10:58 AM
ooH! UM LESEE! MAYBE coz I sed so mwahahahaha ^________________________^

keigari
03-23-2006, 06:04 AM
u guyz hav some problem? gosh tsunade ur laugh WICKED !!!!!!!! >_<

tsunade ^_^
03-23-2006, 06:20 AM
Hey noob! Welcome to chaos! Hope you enjoy it here! Dont hesitate 2 ask for help k! I know I know, Im spamming! But its for a good reason!

keigari
03-23-2006, 07:21 AM
Ya rite... I'm not a noob by d way, how dare u...
Anyway, thanks, but no thanks.

Vishox
03-23-2006, 07:45 AM
Ya rite... I'm not a noob by d way, how dare u...
Anyway, thanks, but no thanks.what a strange person o.0

tsunade ^_^
03-23-2006, 09:24 AM
Me agrees! I was only doing some good! Is it that wrong to call someone a noob who is one! I mean helooooo :roll: :roll:

Vishox
03-23-2006, 09:40 AM
in light of the situation i shall call him newbert

which translates to "he who is young and has loud mouth"

keithalious
03-23-2006, 10:54 PM
his seal was released right before he did his bankai by Yumichika who like i said in my last post called soul society and asked for just ikkakus to be released. check manga chapter 204.

SOMEONE CHECK CHAPTER 204 AND ANSWER THE QUESTION FOR YOURSELF

rocklee20170
03-24-2006, 12:25 AM
ok well i couldnt find out how to put in pictures but ill quote what ( ikkaku's parter guy) he said "Im requesting an increase of spatial stasis in a radeus of 300 around madarame ikkaku" so there, so that would mean he had a seal and it was released before. question answered LOCKED?

Vishox
03-24-2006, 12:57 AM
wrong, that was put in place to prevent harm to living souls around them.

plus releasing the seal just before bankai is silly when the other three combatants had to do the fancy "lift the limit" thing with their squad emblems.

regina777
03-24-2006, 10:49 AM
wrong, that was put in place to prevent harm to living souls around them.

plus releasing the seal just before bankai is silly when the other three combatants had to do the fancy "lift the limit" thing with their squad emblems.

thank you for saying this already- so i dont have to explain myself. this is exactly what i thought was happening when this was requested. it was about his seal being in place or not

imported_Aizen-diacho
03-24-2006, 03:56 PM
okay lets clear this up for you guys.ikkau is in the 3rd seat of the 11th squad therefore he does not have a seal on him only vice captains and captains have them renji said it himself so they do not affect the humans around tehm unfluencing their own spirit power ichigo's spirit power is crazy and doesn't have a seal that why orihime and chod has powers because he gave them that power so thats why they have a seal.ikkau always had bankia he didn't use it in soul society because he doesn't want anyone to know because he would be pushed to be a captain and he wants to stay and fight for kenpachi and kenpachi would hate him.that guy w/e hi sname is called soul society telling them he might die and to perpare for his death and send reenforcements or w/e he didn't say anything about lifting the seals.it was that big boobed blonde shinigami the one with that kid prodigy she called soul society telling them to lift the seals and when they did the ancars fgot pawned and the onyl people who got their seal lifted were the only people who had one renji,her,and that captian kid. ikkau beat his ancarra because they weren't real ancarra they were gillians and his was proably weaker than all the rest

keigari
03-31-2006, 11:54 AM
WOW.....wat a long explaination!!! This is makin me sooooo confuzed...
Besides, Yumichika said something about Ikkaku being the second strongest in his team. Why isn't he a vice captain then?

Tsunade & Vishox better watch out...... (Anger....Anger)

:twisted:

imported_Aizen-diacho
04-02-2006, 03:47 PM
i was a bit off i was reading that whole arc yesterday and that dude with ikkaku called soul society saying something about giving the others assistances because he seen how strong the ankarau ikkau was fighting but ikkau doesn't have a seal and he was able to kill his ankaru because he was the number 15 out of 20 and the higher the number the weaker that dude with the claws explained it and he was number 11 so i can't sh^t on hitsugaya to much because the ankaru's under 11 are those vastorodes ankaru which are suppose ot be stronger than captains

Vishox
04-05-2006, 11:02 PM
okay lets clear this up for you guys.ikkau is in the 3rd seat of the 11th squad therefore he does not have a seal on him only vice captains and captains have them renji said it himself so they do not affect the humans around tehm unfluencing their own spirit power ichigo's spirit power is crazy and doesn't have a seal that why orihime and chod has powers because he gave them that power so thats why they have a seal.ikkau always had bankia he didn't use it in soul society because he doesn't want anyone to know because he would be pushed to be a captain and he wants to stay and fight for kenpachi and kenpachi would hate him.that guy w/e hi sname is called soul society telling them he might die and to perpare for his death and send reenforcements or w/e he didn't say anything about lifting the seals.it was that big boobed blonde shinigami the one with that kid prodigy she called soul society telling them to lift the seals and when they did the ancars fgot pawned and the onyl people who got their seal lifted were the only people who had one renji,her,and that captian kid. ikkau beat his ancarra because they weren't real ancarra they were gillians and his was proably weaker than all the rest

its only the top 10 which are ranked in order of strength and then the other numbers are varying... although for the time being it seems safe to assume the power goes up just like in the top 10. actually i could be wrong and it could be the other way round. anyway, ikkaku gave his all and it was enough to defeat edorado, who was equal level with him it turns out.

the others had a more difficult time maybe because they weren't fighting with the same strength as ikkaku in the beginning. renji and hitsugayas ban kai was heavily weakened by the limit, and matsumoto's wasn't even a fair fight at all. then they did lift the limit, upped their power five times over, and then crushed the gillian arrancar like a bug under a lorry.

waiting for next manga now, although bleach forums was getting attacked by a hacker so could be another while before we see a raw or a script :(

imported_Aizen-diacho
04-22-2006, 05:18 PM
yes your correct but for hitsugaya needing to lift his limit is sad it's just down right embrassing and disappointing but i think that their number does rank them in power notice rukia had a number 19 or 18 marked gillian and dispossed of him in a instant while the others had lower numbers and had a rougher battle.but from hitsugaya performances it seems like ichigo is stornger since he was fighting a ankaru marked number 6 to hitsugaya ankaru marked 11 which he got his ass handed to him until he lifted the seal and ichigo already at full power did some damage but nothing really significant

AK47
05-19-2006, 02:16 AM
Ikkakku is awesome
his bankai is probably one of the coolest bankai i've seen