Valentines: Love it or Hate it?

[tsunade ^_^]

Ok! This is not a poll or anything! And sorry for the late post
BUT
Im just interested in hearing wot sum of your views are on V.day

I personally feel its all alot of crap! V.day is a day for the businesses to roll in the cash! COMERCIALIZATION dudes! And Im not saying this because Im bitter! I just feel why use one day to show your loved one how special he/she is! You can do it everyday!

And seing that I work in retail, dont know if its just me but the V.day gifts are getting WAAAAY 2 expensive! :evil:

[Kyuubi kid]

Just another pointless hallmark holiday....

[tsunade ^_^]

SAN q! I knew it! My friends sez Im bad luck!

[V.VELDANEN]

Oh...I'll be blessed if my gf thinks the way you do. More cash for myself... .:glee:.

Yep, personally, I feel that isn't important if you choose to ignore it. But I know how happy your partner will be if you choose to do something for him/her during that day, regardless whether she like valentine's or not.

It's a day to remind people not to take your partner's love for granted.

[Mousie]

Valentines was a day created by card companies. but oh well...Novemeber babies = Valentine love babies :P

[CRtwenty]

Yes it's a holiday created by Card Companies...
Unfortunately that doesn't change the fact that you've got to buy stuff on it... ;_;

Luckily I'm single right now... I don't have to buy anything woot!

[SRVG]

no girl
so I HATE IT.

Just another pointless hallmark holiday....

this about sums it up

[Aurora Dark]

It is a Hallmark holiday, but I like it anyway ;)

I'm all for the best chocolates, teddy bears, flowers and assorted cute things being littered in my stores. Shopping sprees! XD

And an excuse to have a nice date with a little more spending than usual ;)

[ZrAeNiAn]

its not hate.. i just dislike the general idea of saying "i love/like you" on this day.

Why limit the expression of love to a silly day created by commerce to lift the profit between xmas and easter?

Love should not know limitations or rules, no usage in using silly things to start telling people you love them.

love is something that should be given out 24/7 365 days a year 52 weeks 12 months all the time! untill infinity.

-Zr-

[DBZWarrior6582]

ok I personally think V-Day is retarted. I have a g/f and we both agreed that we weren't buying things for each other, I'm just making her a hand made card, it's more personal and it really shows you love the one your with. V-Day is made so girls have an excuse to have thier guy by something really expensive for them that they may never use. so over all I hate V-Day. If you really love someone then you don't need a holiday to show it, you can show it everyday.

[Lost Prophet]

If you have a g or b/friend, then you should show them your love everyday. not just one day out of the year.

[Aurora Dark]

omg you guys, you can't buy gifts for people every day. That is what Valentines comes down to, because it's completely unrealistic to "show your love" by giving gifts and valentines and cards every single day. And doing it completely at random?
Look around. How many bf/gfs do that for each other?

Many people I meet who say "show love every day!" happen to fall into the "never buys gifts or presents" category as well.

Give the girls a break, sometimes they just want a gift from a guy that usually doesn't give them, or sometimes she needs an excuse to make him take the day off to see her, etc. :P

And good lord, most couples know they love each other, they DO say it every day. Why bash Valentines, for celebrating a love that the couple KNOWS is there anyway? It doesn't prove love, except for those waiting to reveal themselves to their crushes ;)

I don't see the point in hating Valentines.
"WAI WAI SHOW LOVE EVERY DAY!!1"

Take Christmas for example.
The Holy spirit is with Christians every day and every moment, so why do they bother honouring Jesus to such a huge extreme for only day? Oh wait, if you count Easter, 2-3 days total. Show it every day, right?
Halloween. Everyone likes candy and costumes. Show it every day, right?
New Years. Every day of 2006 is awesome, and every day of 2006 is a part of the new year. Celebrate it every day, right?

C'mon now, this is just silly :P

[ZrAeNiAn]

omg you guys, you can't buy gifts for people every day. That is what Valentines comes down to, because it's completely unrealistic to "show your love" by giving gifts and valentines and cards every single day. And doing it completely at random?
Look around. How many bf/gfs do that for each other?

Many people I meet who say "show love every day!" happen to fall into the "never buys gifts or presents" category as well.

Give the girls a break, sometimes they just want a gift from a guy that usually doesn't give them, or sometimes she needs an excuse to make him take the day off to see her, etc. :P

And good lord, most couples know they love each other, they DO say it every day. Why bash Valentines, for celebrating a love that the couple KNOWS is there anyway? It doesn't prove love, except for those waiting to reveal themselves to their crushes ;)

I don't see the point in hating Valentines.
"WAI WAI SHOW LOVE EVERY DAY!!1"

Take Christmas for example.
The Holy spirit is with Christians every day and every moment, so why do they bother honouring Jesus to such a huge extreme for only day? Oh wait, if you count Easter, 2-3 days total. Show it every day, right?
Halloween. Everyone likes candy and costumes. Show it every day, right?
New Years. Every day of 2006 is awesome, and every day of 2006 is a part of the new year. Celebrate it every day, right?

C'mon now, this is just silly :P

all your points are invalid

Xmas = religious holiday
Halloween = hallow's eve a religious event that has been celebrated since.. well nearly ever
new years eve= not every day is the end of a year and the beginning of a new calender.
Easter = religious event in celebration of the resurection of jesus chrits.

Valentines day =.... .... .... uhmm.... uhmm... a day created by commerce to celebrate love?


valentrinesday is the most utter crap celebration a person can commit to, it has no history and it has nothing valuable to give us.

Why would you ever buy a gift for a loved one on a day that has been selected to rise the profit between xmas and easter cause else the stores dont make enough profit?

you know very well what im speaking of since you agreed with me on that. I do however see what you are trying to say.

I can understand girls and some guys like the idea of having a valentine and be "suprised" on valentinesday. I understand couples would enjoy spending another day together.

But that does not make it logical to do so, just cause some guys in a office decided that feb 14th was a good day for this...

-Zr-

[Aurora Dark]

Xmas = religious holiday
Halloween = hallow's eve a religious event that has been celebrated since.. well nearly ever
new years eve= not every day is the end of a year and the beginning of a new calender.
Easter = religious event in celebration of the resurection of jesus chrits.

Valentines day =.... .... .... uhmm.... uhmm... a day created by commerce to celebrate love?
Now that's the problem, and something else I'm tired of. People do not seem to know this, or perhaps they like to forget, but it DOES have a meaning. It has a history, also.


The first recorded association of St. Valentine's Day with romantic love was in the 14th century in England and France, where February 14 was traditionally the day on which birds paired off to mate. This belief is mentioned in Geoffrey Chaucer's Parlement of Foules (1381). It was common during that era for lovers to exchange notes on this day and to call each other their "Valentines". A 14th century valentine is said to be in the collection of the British Library. It is probable that many of the legends about St. Valentine were invented during this period. Among the legends are ones that assert that:

* On the evening before St. Valentine was to be martyred for being a Christian, he passed a love note to his jailer's daughter which read, "From Your Valentine."
* During a ban on marriages of Roman soldiers by the Emperor Claudius II, St. Valentine secretly helped arrange marriages.

In most versions of these legends, February 14 is the date associated with his martyrdom.

That happened long before some "guys in the office" decided anything ;)

Honestly, I fully compare St. Valentine to the mythic Santa Claus. They both have the same amount of credibility/right to be in the holiday books.
Most Christmas traditions have nothing to do with Christ, and all to do with Saint Nick. Gosh! :P

[ZrAeNiAn]

As you see valentines day is from a the stories of 1381 from Geoffrey Chaucer. I dont know if this person is known to you, but he is not the most informative source. As i doubt wikipedia too, for its known to have lots of errors in their systems (wich they are trying to erase, but untill that is done wikipedia cannot for me be a valid source)

Beside that this was done in 1381 and then lost for centuries in time to only be digged up again in the 50's shows enough for me.

-Zr-

[Hellchild915]

I dont like valentines one of the main reason's is that it is very expensive the only good thing is that its easier to get laid

[Aurora Dark]

As you see valentines day is from a the stories of 1381 from Geoffrey Chaucer. I dont know if this person is known to you, but he is not the most informative source.
Not at all.

It said, "is mentioned in" Chaucer's story, not that 'Chaucer created this idea'. I advise against making such assumptions. If you read the rest of the article, you'd see the beliefs and such that contributed to the holiday. Chaucer's story was just one that happened to talk about it.

I've known about some of what Wikipedia said - I've seen other sites that talked about it, so I wouldn't say it's inaccurate.

Beside that this was done in 1381 and then lost for centuries in time to only be digged up again in the 50's shows enough for me
It wasn't. According to The History Channel, written Valentines began appearing in the 1400s, and in 1700 they came to the United States. The first commercial V-day greeting cards appearing in the 1840s.

Source: http://www.historychannel.com/exhibits/valentine/

[SRVG]

he who the fuck cares when valentijn started.
where living now you.
SO YOU 2 SHAKE HANDS. :D j/k

[Bap]

haha thats what i like to hear during the Valentine season.

But yeah, it is commercialized (like almost every other holiday). I don't care anything for it. If you want to celebrate it, go ahead, but you won't be getting crap from me :P

[NarutoNineTails]

I used to don't care for valentine's day much. Of course that is ok if u r single or your partner agrees that the day is pointless. Guess what? I have a partner who puts meaning into the day so I have really no choice is there? XD

[ColdFire]

I'm on both sides here. I think its some pointless holiday and all too, but hey, the whole atmosphere and all that can make it worth it sometimes. Who cares if ya have to shell out some more cash for a present :P

[XecutorZ]

I used to don't care for valentine's day much. Of course that is ok if u r single or your partner agrees that the day is pointless. Guess what? I have a partner who puts meaning into the day so I have really no choice is there? XD

heh know what you mean ;/ kind of same here

[NarutoNineTails]

Yeah...i fear v-day now a days. The fall out from one in the past is very regretable now...lol. I made reservations to a decent restaurant like a month ago...haha.

[Lixie]

Hmm. Here's what I think.

Valentine's is a day to celebrate love. It's not just for lovers, it's for family, friends and all those you love.

Why designate a day to love? Because there is so much sorrow in the world already, and people are getting more distant from each other everyday... that love is hard to find. Valentines is one day for you to tell all those that you love how you feel, especially in these times when most people think of expressing feelings as too sentimental.

I hear a lot of people say that Valentines is just a day for commercialisation and how it's another way for the businesses to flourish and take money out of our pockets... BUT THINK ABOUT IT, WHO MADE IT THAT WAY, YOU OR THEM?

You don't NEED to spend on Valentines day. For example, I wrote poems for my best friend and I'm writing a song for someone else. I'm not spending any money... just my time and effort. I'm also going to take the time on Valentines to show my brothers how much they mean to me by not yelling at them for that one day.

So really, boycotting Valentines just because you think it's another commercialising "tool", when it's really YOURSELF who made it that way, is simply RIDICULOUS. Don't shit on a nice sentiment (in this case, the naming of a day for love) just because you can't see the lighter side of things.

[V.VELDANEN]

Great point Lixie....

And to all you guys out there who hates valentine to its core..(sigh)...

I mean...there must be room for a little romance-on-a-meaningless-occasion left in your soul, its amazing how much you can spice up your love life and make him/her happy.

And I suddenly realize how everything is measured in cash and dollars.

[daikatsu]

somehow i hate it cause its not really not my day.. dunno why.. lets just say love is not in my vocabulary....


hmmm...yah...vday is the time for gaining profits..*ahem* selling chocolates and flowers are a great deal of a business..


but looking at it in another way... its a time for the family..though some treat it as a special day for lovers...... hah..they can do it anytime..anyday..

[tsunade ^_^]

Wow! Im glad that Im not the only one who kinda ignores today! I thank you all for raising your opinions! I just wanted to show my "PLASTIC" friends that there is more to life than having a bf and receiving gifts on 1 day only!

I think my work here is done and the mods can feel free to lock the topic! :wink: :wink:

[Kyuubi kid]

Oh man, you guys should feel lucky that you don't go to a catholic school!

In religion(its a subject for us) today, we were reading up on the origins of valentines day(yay). And being a catholic school our teacher made us read up on St. Valentine and some other old dudes. And to make it even worse we the oldest year group of our high school got to make Valentine day cards!

[rKAnIMe]

Yeah, I like Valentines Day... mmm... chocolate, too bad I'm on a diet. Eh, who cares. I'm not that addicted to candy anyway. o.0

Luckily I'm single right now... I don't have to buy anything woot!

Go us single people, whoo hoo! ^_^

In religion(its a subject for us) today, we were reading up on the origins of valentines day(yay). And being a catholic school our teacher made us read up on St. Valentine and some other old dudes. And to make it even worse we the oldest year group of our high school got to make Valentine day cards!

:D Haha! I go to a catholic school and all I have to do is go to church today, during school, we do it every Tuesday. >.< And then we do somethin with our 2nd grade buddies...

[JustAnime17]

eh Before i go back and read this i just want to say i Like Valentines day sometimes only when im with someone if not it just makes me feel depressed, but if i were i would have no problem buying my special someone gifts just to make them happy

It is a Hallmark holiday, but I like it anyway ;)

I'm all for the best chocolates, teddy bears, flowers and assorted cute things being littered in my stores. Shopping sprees! XD

And an excuse to have a nice date with a little more spending than usual ;)

Yet another reaosn to hate this holiday, as it seems you are placing its value in the material goods

[CRtwenty]

I tried to bake a cake this Valentine's day...

It didn't work out too well. ;_;
Now I have cake batter all over my floor.

[venin]

just like anyday

[Lixie]

Wow! Im glad that Im not the only one who kinda ignores today! I thank you all for raising your opinions! I just wanted to show my "PLASTIC" friends that there is more to life than having a bf and receiving gifts on 1 day only!

I think my work here is done and the mods can feel free to lock the topic! :wink: :wink:

I don't know if you read what I said. Not only "plastic" people like Valentines.

eh Before i go back and read this i just want to say i Like Valentines day sometimes only when im with someone if not it just makes me feel depressed, but if i were i would have no problem buying my special someone gifts just to make them happy

There's no reason to feel depressed as long as you've got people who love you (i.e.: Friends and Family).

[imported_Greenlitflag]

I don't celebrate valentines day, I'm a monster who only loves myself.... I mean, I'm always single on this day so it dosn't make a difference me.

[Lost Prophet]

What are you like gaara now, and you go around and say while in fethal position sucking your thumb, "I love only myself. I love only myself, I love only myself..."

[imported_Greenlitflag]

What are you like gaara now, and you go around and say while in fethal position sucking your thumb, "I love only myself. I love only myself, I love only myself..."

The only thing that brings me comfort is snuggling up to my gourd.... :cry:
:lol:

[Aurora Dark]

Yet another reaosn to hate this holiday, as it seems you are placing its value in the material goods
well no :P TBH, I'm highly sentimental too. I like the material value AND the emotional value.

But no one ever listens to me when I babble about the sappy stuff, so I usually don't mention it ;)


PS: what's so evil about liking romantic, cute things and presents? I'm sick of people saying "material" as if it's a bad thing. NEWSFLASH: You all have computers with internet, using them. You are all 'material'. If you want to babble about how evil materialism is, reject your awesome technology gadgets that are v. excessive and not necessary for basic life and all that, and stop with the complaining.
Just my few cents ;)

[ZrAeNiAn]

[quote=DesecratioN]
PS: what's so evil about liking romantic, cute things and presents? I'm sick of people saying "material" as if it's a bad thing. NEWSFLASH: You all have computers with internet, using them. You are all 'material'. If you want to babble about how evil materialism is, reject your awesome technology gadgets that are v. excessive and not necessary for basic life and all that, and stop with the complaining.
Just my few cents ;)

not saying i know des reall ywell.. but i really doubt that is what he meant with the materialism


i think it was more that some girls just "love" a person for the things he buys her. And if the boy does not buy her gifts she will brake up. Its a common thing that girls do. Not saying all girls do this but there are enough who will do it. Who love the materialism that is put into a relationship by means of gifts instead of what is given by means of emotional gifts.

And there is the golddigger... who is also materialsm and is the bigger version of the previous one, the girls that loves a person cause of his money.

-Zr-

[narutoIZZAbest]

meh, Valentine's Day to me is a commercial holiday..

i don't HATE it... i'm all about the discounts!! w00t! 8) :lol:

[V.VELDANEN]

[quote=DesecratioN]
PS: what's so evil about liking romantic, cute things and presents? I'm sick of people saying "material" as if it's a bad thing. NEWSFLASH: You all have computers with internet, using them. You are all 'material'. If you want to babble about how evil materialism is, reject your awesome technology gadgets that are v. excessive and not necessary for basic life and all that, and stop with the complaining.
Just my few cents ;)

not saying i know des reall ywell.. but i really doubt that is what he meant with the materialism


i think it was more that some girls just "love" a person for the things he buys her. And if the boy does not buy her gifts she will brake up. Its a common thing that girls do. Not saying all girls do this but there are enough who will do it. Who love the materialism that is put into a relationship by means of gifts instead of what is given by means of emotional gifts.

And there is the golddigger... who is also materialsm and is the bigger version of the previous one, the girls that loves a person cause of his money.

-Zr-

I think we are all being a little to extreme here...

People always tend to overstate materialism... and I know for a fact that not all girls are like that. And honestly, which girl wouldn't ditch a guy whose being excessively stingy?

There comes a point in time when a girl would appreciate love and feelings before material goods.

[Mousie]

hey! whats so wrong about valentines day? We can all have an excuse to eat chocolate now XD.

Dieting? Tis ok...its Valentines Day. EAT CHOCOLATE!

Not aloud to eat sinful sweets? Its ok Tis Valentines Day! Someone got you chocolate XD

Don't eat sweets often? Tis ok, Tis Valentines Day XD. Chocolate sales everywhere XD

EAT CHOCOLATE XD

[Brock-lee]

eh..I don't see the big deal about it either way..you can buy something or don't buy something..it's up to you. I wouldn't care if I got just a Happy Valentines day..you don't HAVE to get something from the store..you just kinda choose to..and if the person you're with makes a big deal about it , u should def question what they think this hoilday is all about... but I think it's just a nice time, like if you're working and have kids and such, to take time out and spend it as a couple..maybe go to the movies...nothing wrong with that. And ya family can get into it to..My mom used to buy me stuff animals for Val. so it's all just sweet. Personally I don't even consider a holiday( if u don't get the day off it's not a hoilday in my book :P).

[LiQuId_MeTaL]

i think valentine's day is a kinda weird holiday because if your gonna show someone that you really love them, you should show them everyday instead of just ONE day. But then, people would MAYBE just use valentine day for another holiday to have parties at school, half day at work (maybe even no work), more money for stores that SELL the valentine's stuff. :D

(hopefully that makes sense :P ;) )

[Lixie]

In response to Liquid Metal:



Why designate a day to love? Because there is so much sorrow in the world already, and people are getting more distant from each other everyday... that love is hard to find. Valentines is one day for you to tell all those that you love how you feel, especially in these times when most people think of expressing feelings as too sentimental.



In response to Valentines "materialism":



You don't NEED to spend on Valentines day. For example, I wrote poems for my best friend and I'm writing a song for someone else. I'm not spending any money... just my time and effort. I'm also going to take the time on Valentines to show my brothers how much they mean to me by not yelling at them for that one day.

So really, boycotting Valentines just because you think it's another commercialising "tool", when it's really YOURSELF who made it that way, is simply RIDICULOUS. Don't shit on a nice sentiment (in this case, the naming of a day for love) just because you can't see the lighter side of things.

[Named]

Gods, why would anyone want their loved one to 'surprise' them on a day where 2 billion people on either side are being 'surprised' in, I imagine, a -surprisingly- similar way.

Fabulous. No advocate of "Burn Valentines Day, burn!!" is suggesting every day should be a celebration of love. What i'd suggest is picking your own damn day to treasure your loved one, not waiting for a card company funded charade to do it for you.
Crapping crap... How any woman can be superficial enough to -want- their partner to conform to such an atrocity is beyond me.

People, you can show your appreciation for your loved one any time in the year, and you can plan special occassions just the same. Don't wait for 1 day in the year when everyone else is feeling the pressure of exactly the same. It's a disgrace to the already precarious sanctity of love :/

I acknowledge the arguments for Valentine's Day, but I still believe it improper and demeaning to mass-conform something as personal as love. How can it really bear any importance, with that kind of pressure looming over it? Anything you do will be thought to have been done because you were obligated by the day. That's not precious, that's not loving, it's downright pathetic.
If your love is so unspectacular and fragile that you require a prompt to celebrate it, shame on you and your relationship. No matter how much stress or pain there is in the world, why even bother loving if you cannot keep it running on your own accord, and by your own will, strength AND creativity.
Don't fund this day, if you've any respect for yourself, your loved one, or love in -general-, don't do it.

[Kyuubi kid]

Always luv hearing named's thoughts, lol.

Yet another reaosn to hate this holiday, as it seems you are placing its value in the material goods
well no :P TBH, I'm highly sentimental too. I like the material value AND the emotional value.

But no one ever listens to me when I babble about the sappy stuff, so I usually don't mention it ;)


PS: what's so evil about liking romantic, cute things and presents? I'm sick of people saying "material" as if it's a bad thing. NEWSFLASH: You all have computers with internet, using them. You are all 'material'. If you want to babble about how evil materialism is, reject your awesome technology gadgets that are v. excessive and not necessary for basic life and all that, and stop with the complaining.
Just my few cents ;)

An ill comparrisson as technology is used on a day to day live basis, whereas this holiday is a celebration of material gifts in order to state a feeling one may have. The feeling or emotion one has is being replaced by the amterial good or being uesd in place by the material good. This is another reason why I hate Christmas as well

but then I wouldn't knwo of such things, I am a party of one, I know and love only myself

[Brock-lee]

but then I wouldn't knwo of such things, I am a party of one, I know and love only myself

that's not what you told me last night :cry: :cry: (lol)

[KageNaruto]

i hate it. i agree exactly with what named said, and i think its pointless. ppl just wanted 2 find another way to scam ppl for money

but i lvoe making voilent vday cards and givin em to my friends

[Hime_sama]

valentines is always melo to me. if your single, you have a bunch of ppl reminding you that you are, swith all the couples around you making public scenes. and if you're not single, you have to spend all your savings or you'll get in trouble and guys see it as an excuse to show you off like you're some kind of posesion.
i don't mind spending money on my love one or friends, but i'm not the mushy mushy kinda girl, and seeing all that pink and hearts everywhere! yuk!!! it's too much!
who ever came up with the heart shape? and why call it a heart? it doesn't resemble one!!!
i did celebrated with my love one, cuz any excuse to spend time with him is great. i just express my love to him privately!

[tsunade ^_^]

My point exactly!

PS: Lixie I didnt mean all the peeps are plastic is just my friends care more about materialistic things and especially about having a boyfriend and treating him with expensive gifts dats why I feels they are pathetic + the fact that they make me feel like an outsider because Iv been without one for the past 2 years! >_<

[Lixie]

PS: Lixie I didnt mean all the peeps are plastic is just my friends care more about materialistic things and especially about having a boyfriend and treating him with expensive gifts dats why I feels they are pathetic + the fact that they make me feel like an outsider because Iv been without one for the past 2 years! >_<


OoOOO the only thing I can say to that is: ENJOY IT! I went without a boyfriend all throughout school. Sure there were chances but I drove on by them. I enjoyed the freedom a lot. I saw a lot of high school relationships around me and they were all superficial and just down right ridiculous.

To be honest, there are times that I feel like the loneliness you feel when you are on your own is a thousand times better than the loneliness that you get from losing what you had. (Here we can use the example of Naruto and Sasuke. Sasuke had a happy family and he lost it all. Naruto had no family to begin with. Both of them were lonely when the series began, but whose loneliness was so strong that it turned into hatred, Sasuke's or Naruto's? Exactly.) A THOUSAND TIMES. I'm not saying I wouldn't get into a relationship just because of it--but I'm saying I'm not gonna go rushing into one.

Plus it's a good thing if you're one of the only few singles in your group. Think about it, once you guys get old enough to go out partying, WHO's gonna get more attention, the ones with the boyfriends dragging behind them or the ones strutting around one their own?

And once you're older, there'll be a lot of chances to get into relationships. Though you shouldn't start one just for the hell of it--get into one with someone you actually feel something for, or else it'll just fail miserablly.

Basically, you don't have to sit around pining for a special someone. Enjoy single life cuz you won't be able to do so for much longer. Before you know it, you'll fall madly in love with someone and then some nights you'll be wishing he wasn't around. :twisted:

[KageNaruto]

yea i disagree with you on the naruto sauske.

plus anruto was hated and shunned, sasuke wa spopular and famed


havent u heard the quote "its better to ahve loved and lost, than to never have loved at all"?!

[tsunade ^_^]

Partially correct! But still ne!

[Named]

havent u heard the quote "its better to ahve loved and lost, than to never have loved at all"?!

Yes I have. But I do not agree.

havent u heard the quote "its better to ahve loved and lost, than to never have loved at all"?!

And you would know this how? i am with Named on thi sone I completley disagree with this quote...


What you are saying is Ignorance is more painful to oneself than that of loss?

Loss is a poowerful pain to the common being. In no way can I say i'd be happier having something and losing it than to have been completley unable to have it, the anguish of once having and losing ...

For instance, you are an athelete and you have a career ending injury would you not be tortured by memories of the game and wanting to head back? always having this urge to want to get back but never will... it happens al the time.. this feeling that will always be empty.

[ZrAeNiAn]

havent u heard the quote "its better to ahve loved and lost, than to never have loved at all"?!

And you would know this how? i am with Named on thi sone I completley disagree with this quote...


What you are saying is Ignorance is more painful to oneself than that of loss?

Loss is a poowerful pain to the common being. In no way can I say i'd be happier having something and losing it than to have been completley unable to have it, the anguish of once having and losing ...

For instance, you are an athelete and you have a career ending injury would you not be tortured by memories of the game and wanting to head back? always having this urge to want to get back but never will... it happens al the time.. this feeling that will always be empty.

depends how you look at it. Every person desires love. Love for someone else or simply love for themself.

What they mean with the quote is not the loss.. its the memory. Its better to have a memory of love, then have no memory of love at all.

-Zr-

[Deathlaughter]

I just like getting the chocolate on V day! XD

[venin]

well i tried stopping playing bcoz my frends and everybody around me say i play too much.
and i did for few months and basicly i play really rare now.
but still i would have enjoyed myself playing in the past rather than not have played at all.
it is a bad example from ur point of view, but i love the trill that video games give me so it is basicly same. and i really miss it. damn i am gonna go play tomorrow.
i would say that it depends on the person, and sasuke and naruto are different people.

[Named]

The memory of my past loves tortured me until I pushed them out of my mind.

It would have been better for me, as I believed before, to have never loved. The only thing I gained from love, in the end, is the affirmation that my loveless speculations were correct. "Don't do it"

The quote is ridiculous because love is the utmost personal emotion. Good for some, bad for others.

[Hellchild915]

This is what I do to get rid of my past loves memories
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f19/hellchild915/animated228.gif

[Named]

Did you make that?

[sessysgurl]

crap im late.....aw well
i HATE valentines day!! it is such crap! waste of money, time and emotions (also pointless).

[tsunade ^_^]

Cant agree with you more!
Y dont they call it Hallmarks Day ^_^

[Aurora Dark]

It would have been better for me, as I believed before, to have never loved. The only thing I gained from love, in the end, is the affirmation that my loveless speculations were correct. "Don't do it"
wow.

I just lost a lot of respect for you, Named.


So much for good memories, ey?

[Jak[Z]]

The memory of my past loves tortured me until I pushed them out of my mind.

It would have been better for me, as I believed before, to have never loved. The only thing I gained from love, in the end, is the affirmation that my loveless speculations were correct. "Don't do it"

The quote is ridiculous because love is the utmost personal emotion. Good for some, bad for others.

I'm at the exact same thinking spot right now

although you just know somewhere, love is gonna screw you over again someday

[sessysgurl]

The memory of my past loves tortured me until I pushed them out of my mind.

It would have been better for me, as I believed before, to have never loved. The only thing I gained from love, in the end, is the affirmation that my loveless speculations were correct. "Don't do it"

The quote is ridiculous because love is the utmost personal emotion. Good for some, bad for others.

i agree. no love its too much energy and ends badly most times anyway. Love is something im barely capable of feeling anyway but i dont think i want to feel..... ive seen what happens to other ppl. Im too much of a psycho to fall in love lol i pity the person i fall in love with. :lol:

[SRVG]

The memory of my past loves tortured me until I pushed them out of my mind.

It would have been better for me, as I believed before, to have never loved. The only thing I gained from love, in the end, is the affirmation that my loveless speculations were correct. "Don't do it"

The quote is ridiculous because love is the utmost personal emotion. Good for some, bad for others.


i can not agree more.
as love is just the moost stupidest hormone ever created by who ever created it.
but its gods way of making sure / ore natures way of making sure we keep on reproducing.

but it aint working for me and the onlything you get out of it is more paint then your body can ever take. and it will feel ever worse.
SO DONT EVEN THINK OF LOVING CAUSE IT WILL ONLY BRING YOU PAIN.
Amen.

[KageNaruto]

lol only?

more like fi yuo love the wrong person

but hey i know what it feels like, and you can still treasure the memories.

no offense but i feel ppl who feel that way are just not strong enough to overcome their emotions and have small wills

[V.VELDANEN]

My my...don't we have heaps of sad and pessimistic people in this forum....

[Named]

lol only?

more like fi yuo love the wrong person

but hey i know what it feels like, and you can still treasure the memories.

no offense but i feel ppl who feel that way are just not strong enough to overcome their emotions and have small wills
I feel those who allow their will to succumb to whimsical feelings to be less stable, perhaps a little meek, short-sighted, but fundamentally, creatures expressing their freedom and following the path that makes them happy, regardless of the consequences. I won't judge them, I won't judge that way.

I will, however, judge people who espouse nonsensical ignorant generalisations about those who don't share this way.
Look how many agree with me, and this is an opinion formed independent from what is expected of me as a human. That is a strength, and it requires from me everyday a great deal of strength.

Don't you ever say i'm otherwise.

Loving is not overcoming an emotion; experiencing any emotion, letting it run wild through your psyche, is the most primitive thing we can do as intelligent beings. I'm not labelling it a fault or a weakness- it's not - but it's the simplest thing we can do, and the easiest. It requires no will or strength to love, that's a quality often regarded as its best.

Do not contend with my will, boy. It's a force to be reckoned with, and not one you'd yet be able to stand to.

And to you, V.VELDANEN, I ask that you relent your naive criticism on me or any of these people. I'm not negative or pessimistic. Try rather to understand people different to yourself, than to categorise them by an ignorant judgement. You may learn a great deal of the human spirit.

[Named]

It would have been better for me, as I believed before, to have never loved. The only thing I gained from love, in the end, is the affirmation that my loveless speculations were correct. "Don't do it"
wow.

I just lost a lot of respect for you, Named.


So much for good memories, ey?

Don't be petty, if you quoted the whole body of my post it would also have included "Good for some, bad for others"
I hope it's also this easy to gain your respect, because it's certainly far too easy to lose.
I won't apologise for my worldview, and I won't apologise for taking what I do from my experiences. You should have more trust in your friends, and allow them a wider scope of acceptible -personal- beliefs, for it is not your place to look down upon them for living in whichever manner satisfies them.

If you insist on using 'respect' in your friendships as a weapon to assert your viewpoint in any argument, it will be you who loses a great deal of respect from me.

[V.VELDANEN]

I apologize if it offends you, but from where I'm standing, many of you seem to have gone through pain and is finding hard to cope with it and could not see beyond the past to believe in good things that might come from love.

I really don't understand why the past can weigh anyone down to this degree to not believe in love. To me that IS sad... and I wouldn't want to feel that way, strenght is to not believe in emotional uncertainty? That is not what I call human spirit if you choose to live within your barrier.

I'm sorry again if i was being blunt and offensive.

[Named]

Before I loved, I believed that love would be damaging to me. I believed I could gain nothing from opening up such a vast and unforgiving vulnerability. I've loved more than once since then, and what I took from these experiences was an affirmation that my younger self was every bit correct.

Some people function better alone, some people are -genuinely- happier in solitude. My mind and my life is serene, it is under my control, and I live every moment with that much more joy.
It is not your remarks that offend me it is the ignorance behind them- love is not an all-encompassing remedy of sadness for humans. It truly adds to misery for some.
The sooner you understand that, the sooner you will stop offending me, and people like me.

[V.VELDANEN]

Well, several remarks here goes something like this:

"Love will only bring you pain"
"It will screw you over again."
"I agree."

Since you made your point that you prefer solitude, i would say that i'm enlightened and impressed by your honesty and awareness of your livelihood as i truly have not associated with anybody who does not look forward to relationships.

But i can't say the same for the rest can I...? Unless the people who detest love would stand up and honestly say 'I look forward to a life of solitude'. Then, I will stand corrected.

[SRVG]

my statment comes out of the conclusion that i always need to be the first to love someone.
being loved isent in this picture for me. and this makes the world in my view cruel.
i may fal in love again and be happy but untill that person tels me she loves me. i will have this opinion.
cause i know people that dont give a single bit and get everything. for me its the other way around.
i give and i give but never get. this is the cruelest part of love for me.

[ZrAeNiAn]

Before I loved, I believed that love would be damaging to me. I believed I could gain nothing from opening up such a vast and unforgiving vulnerability. I've loved more than once since then, and what I took from these experiences was an affirmation that my younger self was every bit correct.

Some people function better alone, some people are -genuinely- happier in solitude. My mind and my life is serene, it is under my control, and I live every moment with that much more joy.
It is not your remarks that offend me it is the ignorance behind them- love is not an all-encompassing remedy of sadness for humans. It truly adds to misery for some.
The sooner you understand that, the sooner you will stop offending me, and people like me.

So even befor you knew love, you knew it was gonna suck?

thats like saying watching at the menu in a restaurant and saying you dont like anything on it, befor you even have tasted anything.

Isnt it just possible for you to be biased on this subject befor you even had started exploring it? If you had had a different view on love before you knew it back then, would your conclusion now be the same? I think it would. Because you are biased on the subject beforehand you closed down the other side of. You made love a 1-way-ticket befor you knew anything about it.

Im not judging you for your actions, im just pointing out a thing that im wondereing about in your remarks.

-Zr-

[Aurora Dark]

Don't be petty, if you quoted the whole body of my post it would also have included "Good for some, bad for others"
I hope it's also this easy to gain your respect, because it's certainly far too easy to lose.
I won't apologise for my worldview, and I won't apologise for taking what I do from my experiences. You should have more trust in your friends, and allow them a wider scope of acceptible -personal- beliefs, for it is not your place to look down upon them for living in whichever manner satisfies them.
It isn't... surely you remember, there are things you've done that I still can't forgive you for. That extreme level of respect I once had for you before everything may never return.

I did read your whole post, yeah. But that does not change my opinion.

I'm not speaking as a friend, I'm speaking as the person who shared your most major, epic relationship with you. Maybe I'm the fool, but I always took a great deal of good memories and experiences from that. To be told, "I shouldn't have done any of that," not only hurts, it's an insult to your time spent with me. Also, for you to sit there and say that denies the changes you've made, and how much you evolved and grew up from the experiences. Dare you deny the worth they had, just because you can't be asked to deal with the "burden" of love anymore?
And it basically affirms to me that, once again, I cared and treasured it a great deal more than the other did.

..Awesome. :/


And hell, I can judge people how I want to. If I want to lose respect for someone saying something that I deem insulting, hurtful or just plain different than what I'd ever do, I have that right. I will use that right as often as I want to, and I will not apologise if that bothers you.

[KageNaruto]

Before I loved, I believed that love would be damaging to me. I believed I could gain nothing from opening up such a vast and unforgiving vulnerability. I've loved more than once since then, and what I took from these experiences was an affirmation that my younger self was every bit correct.

Some people function better alone, some people are -genuinely- happier in solitude. My mind and my life is serene, it is under my control, and I live every moment with that much more joy.
It is not your remarks that offend me it is the ignorance behind them- love is not an all-encompassing remedy of sadness for humans. It truly adds to misery for some.
The sooner you understand that, the sooner you will stop offending me, and people like me.

i didnt offend u, i just strongly disagree. i wont argue since ull just get more upset, but i still have my own thouhhts of this as i did be4

[superkhanh0]

Vday is ova let this thread DIE with TERMARI

[KageNaruto]

DEATH TO SAKURA THE SLUT BAG BITCH!

[Aurora Dark]

Don't spam here. :/

Besides, the idea of the thread is alive still, it's not a seasonal discussion :P You can discuss a holiday at any time of year! >_>

[KageNaruto]

Yeah, so back on the holiday thing, valentine's day = not a way to express love but to empty your wallet

[Jak[Z]]

I don't know what happened between Aurora Dark and Named, and I don't care
either, but you guys should probably talk to each other in private about that.

And I think a lot of ppl are missing the point here.

Some think they can judge about someone elses feelings, some here probably haven't experienced love as a true power to know what it is capable of doing to you. Some others, including myself, have experienced it to it's full extent, and it didn't work iout, for various reasons. Either way, those who have had it, can agree that it is indeed a powerful thing, and i can be either uplifting as hell, or it can tear you up into a thousand pieces.

What I ment with, "love will screw me over again", is just because at this point i don't think it's a good idea, but I probably will in time. As everyone sooner or later thinks when he lost love.

But to whatever group mentioned above you belong, the only truth is this: you haven't lived until you haven't loved, but you will die a little when you lose love.

But plz, don't judge ppl just from these posts. That's downright ridiculous.

[badash]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The greatest threads are just like this one, So many big posts about something so silly,

Valentines day.... excuse to be sweet maybe take a break from work have a whole day talking about the future you and your partner will have and make plans, or my personal favorite S*X the whole day and a HUGE amount of I love you's that sounds good,

OR if ya not with anybody then GO GET SOMEBODY don't mope just say WTF watch this then go ask some TOP totty on a date and BOOM ya will have had a great day right,

Well an old thread kinda but I thought Id say something anyway,


I love any reason to be sweet to my angel :D



Oh and named... don't double post its not setting a good example :wink:

[KageNaruto]

lol dude, then be sweet to your angel every day or at least surprise her.

valentines day isnt really anything special or surprisng at all

[Holger]

Is it to late for me post about this? V-day was two weeks ago. For me its a love hate thing. I'm a guy so I don't really care about it. But this year I hated it becouse well. I did not have anyone to share it with. My girl friend cheated on me and I broke up with her on Jan.29 so this year was a rather not so good v-day. But for some reason I don't care a whole lot. I mean I was pissed that she even did that to me that I didn't care at all for the day. The worst part about it is, I got her loads of crap for xmas and a month later she decides to run off with someone else. Nah I only like it some years when I have someone I can trust to share it with.

I think its just a day for comerialism, just to give you an excuse to go out and buy something for someone.

[superkhanh0]

yall keep sayin that people use vday to say i love u or buy sum thing for the people they love why not everyday?, well if u have a bf or g/f y wud EXPECT to get sumthing on vday, and why wud u get present everyday ? doesnt that sound too material? this day is like to limit the money u can spend on the person everyday just to 1 day and they still apriciate it :D i mean ur bf gf wont get mad if u dont buy her anythin for this weekend but she will get mad if u dont buy her anythin for vday :D its like a tradition. either u like it or not pplz still expect to get stuff on vday doesnt matter if its ur gf or bf even ur family ur mama

[KageNaruto]

yea thats how vday makes money. ur partner expecs something from u and since its so traditional u have to waste money, its an evil tradition, 1ce it starts ppl cant stop wasting money

[V.VELDANEN]

Yes! Valentine day its the day we love money!

[superkhanh0]

heres an advice : take a break from ur relationship wen this day come :D and then go back out with her/him after vday dont make it so obvious

[KageNaruto]

lol thats a lot harder tha it sounds, and spending 10 bucks isnt a big deal, but im talking about vday wasting ppl's money overall.

[aki_san]

personaly Vday is a pain in some ways and good in other ways. like i spend alot of money on Vday that my wallet goes empty but the girls love it so seeing my gf happy is worth the cash. also it is hard to get some peace and quiet with my gf but when we do it is worth it. so Vday to me goes both ways. :)

[Hime_sama]

i've read some posts and some of you don't believe in love, or says you shouldn't love. yet, you get into relationships. are they loveless???? no one can leave love out of their lives. it's what moves us, what makes us happy, gives us purpose. i can't imagine being all alone, no love in my life. yes, sometimes what we confuse by "love" leaves painful memories, since it wasn't real love to start with. that doesn't mean we should give up. i like what someone said, i think it was lixie, stop waiting for "mr. perfect". newsflash, he doesn't exist. or the stupid ideal that there's that famous "ONE". oh, he's the one! what a loud of crap! that kind of thinking is what makes you hate love that much!

[pandora666]

OK,maybe there isn't a ONE,but aren't there still some few poeple you
could have an ideal relationship with?
Moreover,love isn't just happy and moving,it's also hard work
and patience AND painful memories.
Love may tear you to a thousand pieces but putting the pieces
back together is what makes you learn and be better.
Also,i have never spent Valentine's Day with a girlfriend.
I was always single.Am i the only one?

[aki_san]

OK,maybe there isn't a ONE,but aren't there still some few poeple you
could have an ideal relationship with?
Moreover,love isn't just happy and moving,it's also hard work
and patience AND painful memories.
Love may tear you to a thousand pieces but putting the pieces
back together is what makes you learn and be better.
Also,i have never spent Valentine's Day with a girlfriend.
I was always single.Am i the only one?
i agreee with you that love is hard but you should open up to girls alittle because they want to see that. i have had girlfriends and when i open up to them they open up to me. and yes it is scary to get into a relationship with a girl and open your hard and if they were to break it, it can leave a big scar. but you just have to get up and just be yourself. thats what girls want. and about the V-day thing, who cares? try again next year. just keep trying untill you can find someone to be happy with.

<aki_san>

[tsunade ^_^]

Easier said than done!
Anyways we know a relationship is hard and one has to work hard in order for it to be successfull but why bother if you're the only one doing the hard work! Some men are just ao's and never gives a rats ass!

And noo i didnt say all men SOME MEN! Thats why I choose to stay single because at the end of the day Im the one working hard and always gives my side but it is never appreciated! End f Story ^_^

Jeebuz I thought mous locked tha thread! Requesting a lock!

[Aurora Dark]

Jeebuz I thought mous locked tha thread! Requesting a lock!
why? A holiday isn't bound to only being discussed on that holiday.... o_O

[Named]

Before I loved, I believed that love would be damaging to me. I believed I could gain nothing from opening up such a vast and unforgiving vulnerability. I've loved more than once since then, and what I took from these experiences was an affirmation that my younger self was every bit correct.

Some people function better alone, some people are -genuinely- happier in solitude. My mind and my life is serene, it is under my control, and I live every moment with that much more joy.
It is not your remarks that offend me it is the ignorance behind them- love is not an all-encompassing remedy of sadness for humans. It truly adds to misery for some.
The sooner you understand that, the sooner you will stop offending me, and people like me.

So even befor you knew love, you knew it was gonna suck?

thats like saying watching at the menu in a restaurant and saying you dont like anything on it, befor you even have tasted anything.

Isnt it just possible for you to be biased on this subject befor you even had started exploring it? If you had had a different view on love before you knew it back then, would your conclusion now be the same? I think it would. Because you are biased on the subject beforehand you closed down the other side of. You made love a 1-way-ticket befor you knew anything about it.

Im not judging you for your actions, im just pointing out a thing that im wondereing about in your remarks.

-Zr-

Do you truly believe any conscious mind is SO driven by whim, that an -emotion- can be perverted by a logical speculation? I never made up my mind; if I had I would not have allowed myself to love. That is the only function 'bias' could serve in this respect. No, I made a sound conjecture; a scientific hypothesis, and it proved true. Had I intentionally sought out a love, PERHAPS your grossly simplified accusation would bear a kernel of truth, however I fell into love, and experienced it entirely indepedent from my previous disposition. It -wasn't- an experient. So no, I was not partial in any way.
Emotions are not swayed by bias, you're thinking of logical surmised opinion. (and that isn't my opinion, I can dig up neurological studies to verify this if I must)

i've read some posts and some of you don't believe in love, or says you shouldn't love. yet, you get into relationships. are they loveless???? no one can leave love out of their lives. it's what moves us, what makes us happy, gives us purpose. i can't imagine being all alone, no love in my life. yes, sometimes what we confuse by "love" leaves painful memories, since it wasn't real love to start with. that doesn't mean we should give up. i like what someone said, i think it was lixie, stop waiting for "mr. perfect". newsflash, he doesn't exist. or the stupid ideal that there's that famous "ONE". oh, he's the one! what a loud of crap! that kind of thinking is what makes you hate love that much!

From a psychological standpoint- bullshit. The world is packed full of influences which move me. Love was ONE of them. There are a multitude of others that haven't driven me to near death, and I imagine a great deal more i've yet to experience. I've been happy and productive without love before, and I am so right now.
What I don't care for are naive, ignorant blanket assumptions, that insist every single person on this Earth, every single immensely different individual wants to love, or even more audacious of a claim- needs love to function. It's crap, it's faerie tale nonsense.
Love isn't as those happy movies would have you believe in every instance, and the loveless are not always crooked, evil men driven to miserable solitude. Some walk that path willingly - AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT - with a SMILE. What you are doing is pissing on the validity of these people's lifestyle with ideals like these, you are defaming their very existence "You mustn't be -really- happy without LOVE-LOVE-LOVE XD"

Love may fulfill your life, but if you assume that applies to every single person, what you're espousing is far more bigotted than any sexist or racist could accomplish if he/she -tried-. For this generalisation covers not half of the human species, not a particular ethnicity, but the entire population of Earth. Congratulations.

[Hellchild915]

I think the last Post^_^ would End this thread just right *Requesting Lock*

[Named]

I'm a Moderator. I would have locked the thread if I deemed it necessary.

[dan2025]

um why is this thred still going? its march

[Named]

Because the topic is still alive. We're not discussing Valentine's day anymore, we're debating love in general.

[Hellchild915]

love is a lie people make up

[dan2025]

you arent good at being deep

[Hellchild915]

Im not trying to be deep

[dan2025]

ok im starting to spam i'll leave

[aki_san]

lol from a valintines thread to a serious love discussion thread.

[Aurora Dark]

love is a lie people make up
C'mon now... how likely is it that an entire globe's worth of people could sustain and create the lie, simultaneously throughout their lives?

Even religion, as major as it is, has its fair share of critics who truly never believe in it.

Few people would be so bold as to say love didn't exist; and frankly, being as young as I *think* you are (I obviously don't know for fact, just guessing here, given the demographics of this forum), and the fact that you obviously have not encountered a strong, powerful love thus far in your lifetime... well, I always encourage people to give it time before they completely deny the existence of something that masses of people experience.

Even Named, as much of a solitary individual as he is, has to admit that love exists, and that he himself was involved in it. Do you honestly think he'd fabricate the lie?

Please... >_>

[Hellchild915]

yes ahahahah no I know its true but alot of people dont really know what love is just think they know

[Named]

That's because most 'love' is merely infatuation. The confusion being; the very existence of love is incentive to reproduce; often there is little distinction between infatuation and love.

[tsunade ^_^]

Love or being inlove is overated >_<

[Named]

Absolutely! It is the single most overrated thing in human civilisation. Doesn't mean it's not awesome, but it's most certainly grossly overrated.

Romance/300000000000 = reality.

[Aurora Dark]

Absolutely! It is the single most overrated thing in human civilisation. Doesn't mean it's not awesome, but it's most certainly grossly overrated.

Romance/300000000000 = reality.
hey now, try not to let your opinion do the reverse of what you lecture others for... you don't want them stuffing their opinion off as fact, try not to do the same with yours? :P

To me, Romance is a part of my Reality, they will never be completely separate. Doesn't mean I can't be single, just means that Love is always a factor I cannot forget. Some of us are like me, some of us are like Named, I'd like to see equal respect for both :P

[tsunade ^_^]

San Q

[Named]

Uh, it's been a subjective argument since the beginning. What should I argue if not my opinion? How should I present it if not with confidence?

I'm certainly not going to preface every utterance with "IN MY OPINION"
If the readers can't figure out it's my opinion i'm writing, good luck to them in their lives.

[aki_san]

love to me is a feeling. words cant really discribe love.

[Named]

Love is an attachment formed through the conditioned positive association between a stimulus and the brain's release of oxytocin.

I think words describe it neatly :o

[V.VELDANEN]

Is it possible to make love potions? Or pills for that matter? *~Noob in biology~*

[Named]

Through a combination of a chemically induced state of succeptibility, and the right behavioural influences- yes. You could make someone fall in love with you, as true as if they found it by their own accord and will.

Love isn't a mystical force people wish it to be, it's just a series of processes the brain undergoes. (which is why ignorant statements previously uttered by that other guy to the effect of, "You're weak if you don't love" is such utter nonsense. Technically speaking, you're weak if you allow it, just as if you allow anger or depression. To take command of your mind and stabilise it requires a tad more will power)

*sings theme song* ~~Named, takin' the FUN out of LIFE.~~

[aki_san]

wow Named... you use a lot of high level words... they should put alittle dictonary on the fourm so we can find out what you are saying lol. :P

[Named]

If you join my Order, you will be blessed with the holy jargon of Named.

[KageNaruto]

yeah... the only thing i like about you is the penguins! by the way look at my doodle:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y293/KageNaruto/060113210442copy.jpg

[pandora666]

Through a combination of a chemically induced state of succeptibility, and the right behavioural influences- yes. You could make someone fall in love with you, as true as if they found it by their own accord and will.

Love isn't a mystical force people wish it to be, it's just a series of processes the brain undergoes. (which is why ignorant statements previously uttered by that other guy to the effect of, "You're weak if you don't love" is such utter nonsense. Technically speaking, you're weak if you allow it, just as if you allow anger or depression. To take command of your mind and stabilise it requires a tad more will power)

*sings theme song* ~~Named, takin' the FUN out of LIFE.~~

Love is just a feeling.Nothing more,nothing less.Yeah,technically feelings are just a series of electromagnetic brainwaves that gives you the illusion that they actually exist as an abstract entity,more than something you've just thought up.But,but if we start to speak technically,life is just a series of chemical reactions and an episode of Naruto is just pictures moving too fast.
Is this the way you comprehend everything,from the way you talk to a girl you like to life in general?Just another thing to be explained technically?

The bond a mother feels for her newborn baby or the way you shiver the first time you kiss or the fear for the unexpected,isn't just electromagnetic brainwaves or genes or something that should be explained technically.
It's just life and the way each one of us chooses to live it.

[Jey]

Oh god we both love it when it happends. She gives it to me I throw one at her she yells I say I'm sorry we make out and we both just love eachother untill date one when she dumps me.

[Azure Wrath]

Oh god we both love it when it happends. She gives it to me I throw one at her she yells I say I'm sorry we make out and we both just love eachother untill date one when she dumps me.

you obviously have problems with girlfriends... maybe try to look for what she wants. be considerate to her. It's not about shagging her, it's notabout making out with her, it's about you two being happy with each other, without sex!

[steve]

love potion = date rape

[Azure Wrath]

not cool

[Jey]

I never said it was about me. She shagged me and dumped me, I never ever ever said I did any of that. So you can yell at her.

[Azure Wrath]

ok, give me her number. maybe i'll get in a quick shag as well. jokes, jokes, she's a bitch then, let her burn and die

[Anna Hatake]

valentines=evil
all the guys deside that valentines is the day to cheat and call up hoes

[Azure Wrath]

nothing wrong with a good hoe... just look at my mom.... JOKES!!! *don't hit me mom, i didn't mean it*

[Anna Hatake]

okay now i just hink your weird anyways more things happen and that's why i hate valentines day

[Kuchiki]

keep in mind that there is White Day which is the day girls give things to boys. Whereas Valentine's is the other way around

[Azure Wrath]

when's White Day?!

[Chidongan]

time to revive this thread.

valentines is tommrow, anybody got any plans?

[Octo]

Giving my girlfriend 12 black roses :]


and a poem

[DonEmu]

Giving my girlfriend a poem, thats it, she isnt in town so i am gonna call her and recite it...

[006]

and a poem

ooo Can I hear it?
Oh and btw valentines sucks
no date, and about to go to a big school dance... woo good times -.-

[Chidongan]

no date, and about to go to a big school dance... woo good times -.-

sure is. ^^

currently single, so i'm just gonna not really do anything. yay!

[superkhanh0]

V-DAy = Chinese NEw year day :D win win situation :D :D :D

[DonEmu]

Yeah, either you get laid or you get presents...

[Mighty_Frog]

WTF!! no no, Valentines sucks!!! big time!!

lol, j/k.

In my country, Valentines day is not even recognized, we just go about our business like any other day

[Spangle]

Where do you live? Anyway I have never really been bothered about v-day but my gf loves it so buy the classic 12 roses and that keps her happy.

[Octo]

ooo Can I hear it?
Oh and btw valentines sucks
no date, and about to go to a big school dance... woo good times -.-

A poem for my girl on Valentines Day
For the girl who hugs from the heart
For the girl whose smile can light up my everyday
For the girl whom I hate to be apart

To the times I’ve held you close
To the spark in a simple kiss
To the little black rose
To the eternal bliss

These words will always hold true
As I say to you an, I love you.

[Davis]

damn, on this day every year, I realize how empty my life is.

[Chidongan]

A poem for my girl on Valentines Day
For the girl who hugs from the heart
For the girl whose smile can light up my everyday
For the girl whom I hate to be apart

To the times I’ve held you close
To the spark in a simple kiss
To the little black rose
To the eternal bliss

These words will always hold true
As I say to you an, I love you.

my god! thats beautiful.

kudos Octo, and good luck.

[Octo]

my god! thats beautiful.

kudos Octo, and good luck.

Thank you ^^

[Azure Wrath]

aw.. schweet

im sick and single, so i'll be giving girls germs this year. yay.

[Fool Of Doom]

Hmm... I have a girlfriend atm... and ill admit it... i hate her... but shes nice :) but i still hate her :)

[steve]

I hate valentines day. This is the first one in 2 years ive been single, but I've hated it always.
If you are single, you feel like shit.
If you arent single, youve gotta do a bunch of shit.

If you are a girl... its an excuse to get MORE attention from guys. Also an excuse to get mad at your boyfriend for forgetting ANOTHER event.

[Flyin]

I love it!

Every year, I kill myself trying to pick up on all the girls who don't have boyfriends, and since their social stigma would be affected otherwise, they're usually up for it.
As for killing myself, have you ever rode a horse to a chicks front door to emulate the 'knight in shining armor' ideals they fall for? Priceless, people talk about it for years to come. I did it last year, and this year friends expect me to out-do myself. It's a challenge!

[steve]

haha respect for that approach.

Drop some flowers, some guitar playing? is that the word?

[Flyin]

haha respect for that approach.

Drop some flowers, some guitar playing? is that the word?

I learned a bit of guitar last yr to pick up a girl...flowers always work.

This yr, I've got 3 dates tomorrow, none of them special, but the simple fact that I've got 3 for tomorrow, this is gonna' be a hell'u'va lot of running around.

[regina777]

Happy Valentine'S dAY to Everyone.

Have fun -- tremendous fun -- even if you are single.

[steve]

I plan to spend my valentines day hitting on regina on chaos forums.

[Azure Wrath]

I plan to spend my valentines day hitting on regina on chaos forums.

you got a point steve!

and im gonna hit on some male members too!!

So, steve... what you doing later?;)

[tsunade ^_^]

OMG >_< Cant believe this is still here! This is a suckee day and thats the end of it! Get this, my one friend made a kawai statement.

Why when v.day occurs the other half always forgets what the better half did through the rest of the year. Doesnt that count??? O_o

I dont have any plans coz I have tonsilitus! But it doesnt matter coz me h8s dis day! hehehehe ^__________________^

oh btw I would just like to tell Stevo - SAN Q for posting awesome replies =)

[steve]

haha wait, regina is a girl right? Im almost positive... hahaha oh no

[LuCas]

Happy Valentines, even though I don't like it. I don't hate it either.


Yes we have a few girls on this forum. I can only name 3 though
Mousie
Regina221 (Or whatever the numbers were too lazy to check)
Aurora_Dark

[badash]

Regina221... haha like asking her what room shes staying in... and AD has gone man.

[Raki]

HATE IT!! Absolutely! I went hiking with my family...IT WAS FREEZING! I ened up getting a frostbitten toe...which I still have right now..and im the only person who got frostbitten!

[Spangle]

V-day is good when you have a girl but I remember last year it sucked cause I was alone.

[superkhanh0]

V-day got ruin this year cuz of the snow storm :D

[Hellchild915]

The best thing to do during v-day is play x-box live lol

[006]

The best thing to do during v-day is play x-box live lol

!!
You have xlive?!

[narutoIZZAbest]

i gave my 'other' [:3] a letter and a drawing for valentine's.

i spent a whole day on it too. ^^

[Jey]

I almost died on v-day and 2 days before v-day too! IT SUCKS no point in having it, even if you have a girl because that means you wont love her as much except on 1 day. So it's basically like sticking a knife in your back and slamming into walls all day. Chidoringan is a girl. There you go mroe help for you guys. Oh, so is Azure Wraith.

[Azure Wrath]

jees my vday was crap. spent it alone in my flat, wondering how much it would hurt to kill yourself... the perfect day to make guys feel liek shit... the perfect day to make people who havent found love feel like rejects.

[Davis]

lol, I kno that feeling, sadly.

[Spangle]

Yeah I wonder how much it would hurt to kill yourself? I have never wanted to kill myself but I have always wondered how much it hurts and what is after.

[AK47]

some girl asked me out on v-day, i feel like such an asshole...

[Spangle]

some girl asked me out on v-day, i feel like such an asshole...

Why? Did you knock her back?

[Hayabusa]

valentines day doesn't like google

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2663/googeip3.png

[Nova]

V-Day has always been a crappy experience for me. It's not fun when you're always alone. I've gotten used to it. Manaka Junpei:"For an unpopular guy, Valentine's Day is just a day off."

[tsunade ^_^]

Ok! This is not a poll or anything! And sorry for the late post
BUT
Im just interested in hearing wot sum of your views are on V.day

I personally feel its all alot of crap! V.day is a day for the businesses to roll in the cash! COMERCIALIZATION dudes! And Im not saying this because Im bitter! I just feel why use one day to show your loved one how special he/she is! You can do it everyday!

And seing that I work in retail, dont know if its just me but the V.day gifts are getting WAAAAY 2 expensive! :evil:

Hi there my peeples. Seing as Vday is around the corner. I thought id dust off this topic. Wouldnt mind hearing the noobs's viewpoint! Im still sticking to my point!!! So what do you say

[Dream Catcher]

I think V day is (generally) crap as well... you don't need one day to show your affection to people. If you truly love someone (or like em or w/e) then you show affection every day and there should be no set day to get her/him some candy, flowers a kiss or w/e else it is ppl do.

That's my nickle... now give me back my change

[tsunade ^_^]

*il be glad to hand out a spanking? LOL*

Anyhoo, thats my point exactly. Things are getting waaay expensive here in S.A. But the people here are tooooo much into TV and think that it should be like in the movies

[Dream Catcher]

Spankings on da house !!!!!!!

Almost all holidays are commercialized these days... Christmas, Easter, V day, Thankgiving, and maybe a few more (i cant think of right now) Even New Years is commercialized because that's pretty much the peak time for people signing up for gyms and diet programs HAHAHAH (suckers)

Yes V day is celebrated internationally but in the US it's made into something "holy" so to speak... it's like the election of the pope but for couples (bad analogy?)

[tsunade ^_^]

LOKL. omg it must suck being single in the us then

[MiMi_Chan]

DC basically summed it up, every holiday these days is commercialized into a business. Once more religions enter the mainstream, we'll see even more(Happy Cinese New Year btw ^_^ since it's today)

As for V day...

Well I can't say I'm totally for or against it. It's a day like any other, just that couples give each other presents. I don't really get any feel of being alone that day since I'm single for it's just a day marked in red.

Well I sometimes get chocolate from friends and stuff so I won't hate it either lol XD

[nitestalker666]

I'm against the whole commercialism of it. I don't give in to the jewelry commercials and buy her some diamond necklace because they say I have to. If I wanna buy her something I do it because I liked it and thought it would look good on her (which I do sometimes).

We'll be going out for dinner on V-day, but nothing big. And we out to dinner often so it's not like it's a rare thing for us. We'll just dress a little nicer and eat a little finer than normal. She's getting me something small (better not be candy. I've still got 3 pounds left of my Hershey bar she got me for X-mas).

I bought her a teddy bear a couple days ago. I gave it to her that day though, but it's sort of a V-day gift. But like I said, nothing big, and nothing I don't do through out the year on non-holidays :D

[estranged]

Wouldnt mind hearing the noobs's viewpoint! funny how you go around posting "why the hate bru" whenever someone posts something slightly offensive, when you keep calling everybody else "n00bs". whether it be seriously or not :P
"newbie" and "noob" are (in the internet forum community) 2 different things.
newbie = somebody who is new to the forums
noob = an E-asshole who spams and refuses to follow the rules.

like say, a guy makes a thread flaming all mods and admins. and we'd post "effin n00b >.<".

anyhoo, aboot the topic:
my view on Valentines day is similar to DCs. there shouldn't be one day to celebrate love (or should i say relationships? :S), and you shouldn't need an excuse.
but i have no problem with it. there are a lot of relationship-driven people in the world, who dreams about "the ideal valentines day" and stuffz. there are guys who are just looking for a way to get laid, and girls ready to do it in exchange for the MOST UBER ROMANTIC NIGHT LOL, so it's a win-win. good for them xD
i, personally, don't like conforming into these traditions.

[tsunade ^_^]

LOL whats with the technicality? My humblest apologies if i offended people. (jeebuz)

btw im glad to see that we are all on the same track here ;)
greato

[Erosannin]

Love it or hate it... hmm...

It doesn't really matter that much since February is THE BUSIEST month for me regardless...

10th is my wife's b-day, 14th V-day, 17th, my b-day and my father-in-law's b-day, 27th, our first anniversary (we actually have two... one for our initial date anniversary, another one is marriage... sigh)

But then again, I'm planning to take care of my wife's B-V-day presents on 10th... two birds in one stone I say... :D

[Azure Wrath]

i generally get really depressed on valentines day, coz everyonegets chocolates and flowers and stuff, and i dont... i think valentines day is a good way of making people feel unloved. however, if you're not single/have a loved one (who sorta feels the same way back), then it changes, coz then that day feels pretty great. But i've spent many lonely valentines days and i must say, it does alienate people :(

But im sure the chocolate companies love it. :D

Anyway, im thinking maybe we should give gifts to people here on NC for valentines. I know i will *looks around innocently*

[DonEmu]

Well i am perpetually single but somehow i am still forced to buy gifts for a plethora of people. I find this holiday tedious, my only saving grace this year is that i return to campus the day after Val's day so i will not be forced to buy gifts this year.

[tsunade ^_^]

who is the people doing the forcing? Dude. you are allowed to say no you know

[NarutoNineTails]

one thing I'm getting to like about V-day these days is the going out to eat part. But watch out for the bill. Roy's on a normal night it is like $30~$40 per person. The menu price basically doubled on V-day!!! What was the bill? With tax and tip I think it was close to $180-190?

Now I know better and do my research before making reservations for a restaurant on V day...lol.

[nitestalker666]

one thing I'm getting to like about V-day these days is the going out to eat part. But watch out for the bill. Roy's on a normal night it is like $30~$40 per person. The menu price basically doubled on V-day!!! What was the bill? With tax and tip I think it was close to $180-190?

Now I know better and do my research before making reservations for a restaurant on V day...lol.

Yeah, places like to sell you on the V-day package. Pay twice as much for a "complimentary 2 glasses of wine". Would you like a "complimentary picture of you two?" Of course I want that "free" stuff seeing how I'm actually paying for it, haha.

We're going to Black Angus. I have no idea what the price will be for dinner, but usually it's about $20-$25 a person, so maybe $35 with our "complimentary" glasses of wine :D

[NarutoNineTails]

Yeah, places like to sell you on the V-day package. Pay twice as much for a "complimentary 2 glasses of wine". Would you like a "complimentary picture of you two?" Of course I want that "free" stuff seeing how I'm actually paying for it, haha.

We're going to Black Angus. I have no idea what the price will be for dinner, but usually it's about $20-$25 a person, so maybe $35 with our "complimentary" glasses of wine :D

That ain't really bad at all cuz I haven't seen a glass of wine costing less than $5.

Roy's debacle was for their 3 course set menu without ANY drinks. They have a 3 course set menu for a bit over $30 on a normal night but on V-day u had to order from the set menu that started at $65 per person and if u got the more expensive entree like the steak or lobster...the price went up to $80 or $85...as I remember it. For that price I could eat at michelin three star restaurans in NYC...bah.

Edit:
Oh yeah they did give us one thing complimentary...packaged 3 piece truffle to take home...lol.

And I remember one couple that night...they looked like the youngest couple that night. My guess was that they couldn't be much older than freshman or sophomore in college. They had to share 1 order...lol.

[DonEmu]

who is the people doing the forcing? Dude. you are allowed to say no you know

Not if i want Poon anytime that year i can't...

[NarutoNineTails]

does poon = p***y cat?

haven't heard of that before

[Erosannin]

Well I sometimes get chocolate from friends and stuff so I won't hate it either lol XD

Funny thing is, I NEVER bought any Valentine's gifts to anyone, not even my past girlfriends. It may shock some of you but many of them knew that I ain't the type to go out and buy presents for anyone. Not because I'm cheap, but I just hate to fuss about it and squeeze my brains trying to find the "right" gifts. Okay perhaps I was lazy, but for some odd reason, I guess I was lucky enough to find gf's who were understanding about my persona. I normally tell them of what I am and they never complained. It was sooo worry free and comfortable...








And then I met my wife... and EVERYTHING CHANGED... *sniff sniff*

[MiMi_Chan]

Nobody is forcing anybody to buy anything during Valentine's >_>.

I'ts just that everyone commercializes stuff these days :p. Back when I was a kid even Xmas wasn't a get free present holiday. If you got something, good for you but you didn't expect anything other than from your parents.

So ummm yeah, Valentine's, if I understand is mostly a day like any other for people who bother to love each other normally. You don't need a "day" to love someone or be romantic if you want to. Especially not the day where everything costs so much money lol XD

[NarutoNineTails]

And then I met my wife... and EVERYTHING CHANGED... *sniff sniff*

rofl...good stuff. I feel your "pain". ;)

[King Vamp]

Love Valentines when I'm in a relationship. Hate it when I'm alone.

And i usually buy stuff for girlfriends. But my current girlfriend said she does not like people buying her anything ever. But im still gonna buy her a rose.

[tsunade ^_^]

Dude thats a trap. Its almost like a test. beware of that one

[Dream Catcher]

I bought something for a girl once on V day... and then never did it again... lol although she still has that teddy bear... INTERESTING

nways... i say happy V day to ppl but im not the type of person to go out and get u a bunch of flowers and balloons and make it seem like a Macy's parade... I know girls like to get flowers and all that but ALL the time is no good because it becomes mor eof an obligation than a nice gesture :D Besides, girls who expect gifts must be burned

[papfles]

It's a useless day. If you want to show your loved one you are thinking about him/her, then every other day of the week, month, year will suffice.

And this "it's ANOTHER chance to show it"-idea.... How many of those couples actually do something outside of the usual "day we met" - "valentine's" - "christmas" - "birthday" days? Right, none.

[Dream Catcher]

Mmmm i agree with the angry Blegian... many couples are really resorting to there events listed above as occassions to show some love. Love need not a designated day to be shown. It's not even about love... just showing affection or doing something nice for a friend doesnt need to be held off for a certain date. If the feelings are there then just express them.. i mean.. what's the worst that can happen (looks at himself...) Oh.. well umm... theres always another time :D



These days, sadly, true love is very hard to find.

[Sasukemania]

Well i will always love St. Valentines day for personal reasons. The very next day February 15, i started dating the big love of my life so February 14 will always have a soft spot in my heart.

[bobis101]

i hate it. (dumped)

[Azure Wrath]

well, i see it like this
sure, you can treat your girl nicely every day. I mean, when im in a relationship, i like to make that girl feel special everyday... but you cant spoil the girl everyday (it wont turn out well and we all know it)... but its nice to have a few days where you can really go all out. It isnt practical to take your loved one out to a fancy dinner every single day, you cant bombard your loved one with a orchestra of roses every single (id love to, but firstly, finances wouldnt last, secondly, most girls would become used to this treatment and if they start expecting this treatment, there's a bit of a problem... not that im saying all girls do this, i just know that my ex did and im sure there are quite a few people like that out there)... but on this day ,you have an excuse to go all out, to show the person in more than one way how special she is for you.

you can tel her every day that you love her, you can love her to death and make her feel special eveyr single day, there's nothing wrong with that, i want to do that too... but i believe on Vday, you can take a few other steps, that you can't take every single day, due to whatever restrictions there are. You cant take every day off of work to treat her to the 'most romantic day ever', can you?

[King Vamp]

Dude thats a trap. Its almost like a test. beware of that one

Yea. Thats why I still at lest offer to. If not do it anyway. The only thing that makes it seem like she does not like it. Is her friends said she does not. So its more everyone says she does not. But yea. I'm getting her roses for valentines day.

[Katzyn]

King Vamp~!

I used to hate V-day, but I'm not too concerned about it anymore. I think it's mostly just a dream for girls; a romantic possibility.

[remzrevolution]

I think it's mostly just a dream for girls; a romantic possibility.

then shouldn't it be a guy's goal to make that dream come true?

[Katzyn]

then shouldn't it be a guy's goal to make that dream come true?

Uh...I guess, but most guys don't. The ones in my experience have their own "dreams". ;D

The vision I've always carried for V-day is roses, maybe a sweet date, or dancing...But no sex. Sex isn't romantic, I think. Long talks about the future, and how much you love each other, that's sweet. A girl like me dreams of the midnight walk, talking about nothing but dreams and hopes for the future, rather than being tangled up in a bed.

But I don't know many guys who'd settle for long, talky walks.

[remzrevolution]

Uh...I guess, but most guys don't. The ones in my experience have their own "dreams". ;D

The vision I've always carried for V-day is roses, maybe a sweet date, or dancing...But no sex. Sex isn't romantic, I think. Long talks about the future, and how much you love each other, that's sweet. A girl like me dreams of the midnight walk, talking about nothing but dreams and hopes for the future, rather than being tangled up in a bed.

But I don't know many guys who'd settle for long, talky walks.

Now, see, that's exactly how I imagine spending Valentine's day with someone. Perhaps I'm one of 'the sensitive ones' or just hopelessly romantic, or crazy. Or all of the above.

Either way, I'm sure I'll be spending Valentines day alone.

[DonEmu]

Just got a call from a girl asking me to take her out on Val's day cause she doesnt want to be lonely and her boyfriend is a dick. Yes i will get some action, but this is what i hate and why i usually boycott the holiday. Now i will most likely spend about 50$ just for some ass which i am not guaranteed to hit.

She is also young so she is into this kinda crap. I am so happy i go back to campus the next day and not on that day. Ghanaian girls, no offence can be so material.

[eyeshadowlady]

I'm pretty apathetic to Valentines Day. I've only had a boyfriend for the day once and he was four hours late for the beautiful dinner I'd prepared for us with no call. I was very angry.

I will be single once again this valentines day :p. Maybe I will do something for myself though. I deserve to be spoiled. and I have an exam that day.

Don: That doesn't sound like a good idea :( You deserve your own girl. (not like ownership but you know, someone who isn't tied to someone else :P)

[Kayleen]

So ummmm, Valentine's Day is that bad for you all? I've never had that much trouble with it. The biggest fact is that red is everywhere and my eyes bleed....

Kay

[the lost shinobi]

screw this half assed capitalist "holiday"
I'm like ESL this year. alone

[eyeshadowlady]

alone isn't bad :P Actually I'm quite happy to be single :)

[Kayleen]

I'm single too.... >_> But Ive been so probably every Valentine's of my life lol so I don't really care.

Want to be happy as a couple? Sure, I don't care as long as you don't bother me with it. >_>

Kay

For the record to the haters, EVERYTHING is a capitalist oriented thing these days...

[the lost shinobi]

alone isn't bad :P Actually I'm quite happy to be single :)

meh its not all bad, but sometimes single isn't all it cracked up to be

[DonEmu]

I'm pretty apathetic to Valentines Day. I've only had a boyfriend for the day once and he was four hours late for the beautiful dinner I'd prepared for us with no call. I was very angry.

I will be single once again this valentines day :p. Maybe I will do something for myself though. I deserve to be spoiled. and I have an exam that day.

Don: That doesn't sound like a good idea :( You deserve your own girl. (not like ownership but you know, someone who isn't tied to someone else :P)

Yes i do deserve someone for myself but since i am single and haven't been laid in a while. Meh. Fyi, i wouldn't date this girl even if she was single. Not my kind of girl...too...crass...

So ummmm, Valentine's Day is that bad for you all? I've never had that much trouble with it. The biggest fact is that red is everywhere and my eyes bleed....

Kay

You are a hot Canadian girl. I can't see why you will have trouble with this holiday.

[the lost shinobi]

well good luck Don, apathetic ass is better than none I guess huh? the way you speak about her she seems very loser-