Yamato's Strength?

[Glorious Ular]

Does Yamato have the same justsu's as the First Hokage? :shock:

[The_Three_Pains]

yeah!!! they already explained it in the manga, but probably not to same extent as the first, probably cant use that intense forest summoning jutsu

[imported_partlink1]

he can control the bijuu and that's really it

[Glorious Ular]

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!!!

[The_Three_Pains]

well the wood ninjusto is pretty cool, but the real strength is byijuu bending i agree partlink 1

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

yamata doesn't have all of the first's jutsu's he can just use most of his wood jutsu's.

[regina777]

yamata doesn't have all of the first's jutsu's he can just use most of his wood jutsu's.

is this really true- do you have proof for this?

i guess any two individuals even with the same DNA will still have differences.

[CRtwenty]

Yamato cannot control the Bijuu. He can control Naruto because Naruto is wearing the First's Necklace. Since Yamato is more or less a clone of the First, he's able to use the true powers of that necklace.

[KageNaruto]

yes yamoto is capable of using all the jutsus of the 1st, (well the bloodline jutsus). however if he can depends if he mastered them, and we dont know

[thecheat]

Kage, how do you figure, when did it say that he can use all those jutsu's??

[The_Three_Pains]

i think he can use the same general type of jutsu, but not to the same extent as the 1st, obvious hes not as good as the first.

I get the feeling yamato will play a fairly large role in this arc

[thecheat]

yeah I agree with, three pains I mean Yamato does have part of the first Hokage in him but only some cells, so he definatly wont be able to use the jutsus to the extent of the first

[kjrav]

Not yet at least! 8) Yo!

[thecheat]

yeah, im sure with much much practice he could, but still I dunno if he could use them as well as the first

[KageNaruto]

no he can. oro made it so he has the 1sts genes and has the same bloodline limit. thats controlling trees and wood.

he can use all the bloodline jutsus, but whether he knows how or mastered them is unknown. how i know this is its basicly common sense in my opinion

[y.o.]

I have read alot of nonsense in this thread I cant read anymore, necklace has powers?? were the hell are you all getting this, you all have no proof, from what UI know we have been reading the same manga and I dont know were you all getting this, almost non of it is based on any type of facts at all, just random guesses that you try to pass off as facts

[Hiyo]

Hmm it belongs to the First and it's worth the price of a mountain of gold or something. I'd say it must have something special about it :D

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

the neckalce is suppose to help him control naruto somehow and the first did not have a bloodline limit he just had s thecnique that only he knows that allows him to control plants and stuff.yamato doesn't know his jutsu's he just has some of his thecniques specificaly the ones that he makes stuff out of wood and stuff

[kjrav]

Right if it was a blood limit Tsunade would probaly Know it.and when Yamato,kakashi,Jiraiya,and Tsunade were talking about naruto and how Yamato should be able to control Bijju and thus naruto the necklace was brought up! 8) Yo!

[superkhanh0]

i think the necklace was brought up b/c tsunade was talkin about faith and how yamato is the only one that can help naruto and naruto is wearin his necklace is like a faith and coincident , i dun think there is any special power plus the 1st doesnt kno alot of about kyuubii its the 4th

[kjrav]

If the Kyubbi is such an acient and powerful force plenty of people have heard about the reason you don't here about is because its a taboo in leaf! 8) Yo!

[imported_partlink1]

I bet tsunaides adopted :arrow: 8)

that's why she doesn't know that jutsu

[kjrav]

is her brother adopted to b/c they got same hair color

[KageNaruto]

no remember sometimes bloodlines arent passed down! second off yamoto has the complete 1st's bloodline.

and the necklace tsunde says: plus he is wearing the necklace so it should make things easier"

[y.o.]

Tsunada said he can control bijuu, not people wearing the damn necklace thats dumb, the 1st was wearint that necklace all the time I dought he put it on other people to control them, and if he did then naruto is getting really dumb

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

it's not a fricking BLOODLINE LIMIT! sto calling it that!he has to perform handseals to control the trees the third explained it it's a jutsu that only he knows it's like the third kazekage him controling the metal sand wasn't a bloodline limit it was a jutsu.and ppl proably do know about the kyuubi.the bujuu are suppose to be natrual disasters thier stories about them that has been passed down fomr genertion to generation.

[Glorious Ular]

Yamato is a clone, in other words. Oro copied the 1st's genes and put it in another body. It isnt a blood line limit but can be referred to. Its a Jutsu!
Naruto's necklace is a source of protecting that tsunade gave him. She said it had a significance to the kyuubi inside him!

[kjrav]

it's not a fricking BLOODLINE LIMIT! sto calling it that!he has to perform handseals to control the trees the third explained it it's a jutsu that only he knows it's like the third kazekage him controling the metal sand wasn't a bloodline limit it was a jutsu.and ppl proably do know about the kyuubi.the bujuu are suppose to be natrual disasters thier stories about them that has been passed down fomr genertion to generation.

Haku used hand signs for the Crystal Mirrors and that a blodd limit if im not mistaken and the 3rd kazekage is obviously a blood limit b/c it had to do with his chakra witch i don't think can be so easily changed through a jutsu! AlsoIf it was just a simple jutsu why can't anyone with out his genes use it Smarta**! 8) Yo!

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

it's not a fricking BLOODLINE LIMIT! sto calling it that!he has to perform handseals to control the trees the third explained it it's a jutsu that only he knows it's like the third kazekage him controling the metal sand wasn't a bloodline limit it was a jutsu.and ppl proably do know about the kyuubi.the bujuu are suppose to be natrual disasters thier stories about them that has been passed down fomr genertion to generation.

Haku used hand signs for the Crystal Mirrors and that a blodd limit if im not mistaken and the 3rd kazekage is obviously a blood limit b/c it had to do with his chakra witch i don't think can be so easily changed through a jutsu! AlsoIf it was just a simple jutsu why can't anyone with out his genes use it Smarta**! 8) Yo!

umm bloodline limits don't nee hand seals to be performed but haku made up a jutsu that included his bloodline limit thats why he uses hand seals to make the mirriors or whatever.and if the first bloodline limit was to ocntrol trees he wouldn't need to do hand seals just to make them attack ppl.yamato uses handseals everytime he did a wood/tree jutsu.

oh and the third kazekage iron sand wasn't a bloodline limit either he just learned how to magnetize things around him and he made a jutsu that allowed him to move it that way.

[KageNaruto]

iron sand we dont know if thats a blodline or not. however the 1st had a bloodline! yamoto has a bloodline. bloodlines may need seals, where does it say they dont!?

yamoto had the 1st's bloodline, he controls trees and wood with chakra

even in the anime, when the 1st fights sandaime he says "hijutsu" when he uses it, that means secret jutsu, or bloodline, haku says it 2 u can look it up.

its a bloodline

[CRtwenty]

The Third Kazekage did not have a bloodline, he copied the Iron Sand from a technique created by a former Jinchuuriki. It was a technique he developed, not a bloodline limit.

It does seem that the First's Technique is a Bloodline though. But it seems odd that Tsunade doesn't have it. The way other characters refered to it makes one think that it was something that only the first could use... very mysterious.

[KageNaruto]

well we do know that bloodlines arent always passed down.

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

didn't the third only say that it's a jutsu that only he knows and it was rumored that he created part of konhoa with it.and i remeber him doing a ton of hand seals then treess started to sprout from the building thingy.he wouldn't need to do hand seals just to make the tress move.

[imported_Greenlitflag]

I haven't really read all of this discussion but if it's about use of hand seals to do bloodline limits then note that Hinata did hand seals the first time we see her use byakugan (in the anime at least).

[DukeAbercrombie]

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[y.o.]

It was said that he transforms his chakra into life thus growing and moving trees, I think it was a skill that he knew, like kakashis chidori, only he knew it b4 he taught sauske, but then why cant yamato use it??? He was never taught it, which seems like it would be a bloodline, but I dought that its just like suiton and kanton jutsu's

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

i have doubts about it to but i refuse to beileve it's a bloodline limit.and it's more than just katon and suiton jutsu's it's more like that dead summong thecnique and that body transfer

[KageNaruto]

thena whole bunch of ppl in konha would be able to do it! ppl can learn chidori, they can learn katon and suiton skills 2. the tree skill cant be learned. its a bloodline. besides he didnt just make trees move. 1. it wasnt that many seals! 2. he created CREATED trees, and a crap load of em 2



and if u can only use it if u have the same genes its a bloodline

[kjrav]

if its not a bloodlimit then why would oro need to use the firsts genes to copy the jutsu to another person huh?! 8) Yo!

[KageNaruto]

yes a whole bunch of ppl would know the jutsu then. why else would oro needa copy the genes into a person?

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

if its not a bloodlimit then why would oro need to use the firsts genes to copy the jutsu to another person huh?! 8) Yo!

your ocnfused you just helped his argument lol.but still it's just a jutsu that only he knows the third said it himself he just never thought it to anybody

[KageNaruto]

diedf what r u talking about? ur confused. and the third never said that

[y.o.]

I dont think its a bloodline either this is why, some nin can create jutsus on there own like the kazekage did, in the beggining of the series we heard about the body erasers and there job was to dispose of nin from thier village to keep thier jutsus a secret, not nessisarily bloodline capabilities, Im sure some nin do certain things to there bodies in order to have certain powers that others cant achieve like sasori, thats what I think the 1st did, something along those lines

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

sasori and oro are crazy i don't think the first did that.and if you watch the episode againthe third says something ot himself or was it the ANBU captain well somebody watching the fight said that it's a jutsu that only he knows i think it was the ANBU guy cause i remember him saying that the first was rumored to create part of konohoa with it

[kjrav]

Genes arent changed by external force save by radioactivie stuff causing mutations so there is nothing he could do to his body that would need genes to repeat his power! 8) Yo!

[KageNaruto]

sasori and oro are crazy i don't think the first did that.and if you watch the episode againthe third says something ot himself or was it the ANBU captain well somebody watching the fight said that it's a jutsu that only he knows i think it was the ANBU guy cause i remember him saying that the first was rumored to create part of konohoa with it

yes it said only he could use it, because its a bloodline limit that probably just came up or the starting of one. what other reason would there be for other ppl not using it? say a reason.

and by the way what is the special thing sasori did. the poster above diedf said it about sasori, he didnt do anything special. and hes a puppet himself.

also its my favorite bloodline, the tree 1 its so kikass.

but still diedf answer this! if its not a bloodline why does yamoto need the genes of the 1st? if it wasnt a bloodline he wouldnt need the same dna

[DukeAbercrombie]

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[KageNaruto]

...... and how exactly did that happen?

[steve]

Alright, Im sorry. CR could you explain to me how/what the Bijuu is? I just read up the speed with the manga and havnt really reviewed at all. How can Yam control it?

Im not doubting that he can, I just would like clarifaction. Unless it was in pages 2 or 3 and Im lazy and suck in which case Im going to drink my coke vanilla and write an essay.

[CRtwenty]

We don't know how he is able to control it. But the necklace belonged to the First, and Yamato is a clone of the First, so that probably has something to do with it.

[steve]

Alright, thanks alot
Im sure the answer will fully reveal itself in the next few chapters

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

sasori and oro are crazy i don't think the first did that.and if you watch the episode againthe third says something ot himself or was it the ANBU captain well somebody watching the fight said that it's a jutsu that only he knows i think it was the ANBU guy cause i remember him saying that the first was rumored to create part of konohoa with it

yes it said only he could use it, because its a bloodline limit that probably just came up or the starting of one. what other reason would there be for other ppl not using it? say a reason.

and by the way what is the special thing sasori did. the poster above diedf said it about sasori, he didnt do anything special. and hes a puppet himself.

also its my favorite bloodline, the tree 1 its so kikass.



but still diedf answer this! if its not a bloodline why does yamoto need the genes of the 1st? if it wasnt a bloodline he wouldnt need the same dna

i odn't know :cry: :cry: but it was never said it was a bloodline limit

[kjrav]

maybe he was a unique person like the Incredible Hulk, the hulks children didnt get his gamma radiation mutation, but his clone.


Actually if you watch the movie the genes were passed down but in the form of dormant genes In fact all the gamma radiation did was unlock the dormant genes becuse the machine had been designed to unlock dormant adrneline genes but instead it unlocked his fathers experiment genes.so the hulks children could have it just not unlocked like his.And dormant genes actually explains why Tsunade may not have the firsts wood jutsus! 8) Yo!

[KageNaruto]

actually diedf its a hijutsu. that also means its a bloodline.

also just because it clearly didnt state it out as a bloodline doesent mean it isnt

[Uchiha Adrian]

wood jutsu is really cool

[y.o.]

An example would be, kakashi had chidori all to himself b4 he taught sauske and even though others saw it they couldnt do it, same w/ that kazekage who invented iron sand jutsu those arent bloodline limits just something that the person made on there own, and yamato was meant to do it cause he had the genes of the 1st after he was able to use that jutsu.

I personally dont think that any earth/element type jutsu would/should be a bloodline.

[KageNaruto]

dude, u dont need genes to do chidori!!! say som1 got kakashi's genes... they still wouldnt be able to do chidori cause they need to know the seals. besides who else tried to do chidori but naruto? no1. and naruto tried just once and that was justa comical thing.

u still didnt prove anythig. u dont need genes for chidori, u need genes for the tree thing. its so simple and so easy, yet u still dont get it

[y.o.]

So your sayin to summon a swamp/create you need genes??

Even though its not a sequence of seals they still create them, and I see that you couldnt come up w/ a decent argument to the kazekage either, as we seen in the sasori fight he didnt create seals to do the jutsu and in order to do the jutsu all he needed was the body/genes/tissue sample of the kazekage, so whats your point

This is the same dumb argument that people say kisame, and Oro have demonsw/ absolutley no proof its just what they think or guessing which is ultimatley assumptions, if it were a bloodline it would have been stated already

[thecheat]

and half the time in they dont even show the characters doing the handseals, when its a jutsu you know has hand seals

[KageNaruto]

rasengan is a jutsu. rasengan doesent need seals. and by the way that was a puppet of the kazekage, sasori explained how it works.

i find ur agument just as ridiculous as mine by the way, jiraiya's swamp is a good argument though.

so if the tree thing isnt a bloodlne, why can no1 but yamoto use it? hy didnt the first teach it to his dicsiple or some1 he really trusts to pass it on?

[y.o.]

All Im really saying is until someone finds out the secret to a jutsu and how the nin got it to work it will be thier to themselves until they teach someone else, whos to say that the 3rd couldnt use wood jutsu he was a student to the 1st and he was known as the proffesor it just wasnt his fortay!!

[KageNaruto]

the third isnt able to use wood jutsu

[kjrav]

Yeah if the third could of used it He would of used it to cancel the first out!And the third said NO ONE BUT THE FIRST COULD USE IT ! I believe that includes him!and your still not explainig why yamoto would nedd the firsts genes to do it or why oro would try to use the first genes to copy it with out it being a bloodlimit!If anyone is using unfounded theories its you!

[KageNaruto]

yup way to go kjrav^^! they still didnt answer the gene question from the start

[kjrav]

They didnt answer cause they cant answer there is no over reason for the need of the genes if it was just a normal jutsu an uchia would of copied it by now! 8) Yo!

[y.o.]

WOW!! you cant be serious nowere has it been said it was a bloodline in mange or anime and you insist that it is, that would make it a theory!! If anything Im try to make you see that there is absolutly no proof it being a bloodline. If it were they would have said that already the fact that the 3rd said that only the 1st could use wood jutsu while yamato was in the village proves that statement wrong!! And I already addressed the issue of his genes earlier Im not gonna explain that again

Final statement its not a bloodline if it were then it would have been mentioned or stated already, theres no reason not to mention it, or overlook the fact that it wasnt said to be a bloodline limit

If it were the 5th would have it when bloodlines were explained they said it happens ever generation or skips a generation which would make her have to have it!!

I think its just a preferance the same way jariya focuses more on summons, gai in taijutsu, and Oro in ninjutsu, either no one has the patience to study and learn or no one cares to learn it and would rather pursue other jutsus!

[imported_Greenlitflag]

WOW!! you cant be serious nowere has it been said it was a bloodline in mange or anime and you insist that it is, that would make it a theory!! If anything Im try to make you see that there is absolutly no proof it being a bloodline. If it were they would have said that already the fact that the 3rd said that only the 1st could use wood jutsu while yamato was in the village proves that statement wrong!! And I already addressed the issue of his genes earlier Im not gonna explain that again

Final statement its not a bloodline if it were then it would have been mentioned or stated already, theres no reason not to mention it, or overlook the fact that it wasnt said to be a bloodline limit

If it were the 5th would have it when bloodlines were explained they said it happens ever generation or skips a generation which would make her have to have it!!

I think its just a preferance the same way jariya focuses more on summons, gai in taijutsu, and Oro in ninjutsu, either no one has the patience to study and learn or no one cares to learn it and would rather pursue other jutsus!

Well the debate is about why you would need to clone someone (or take their genes) for to use a jutsu (as far as we know, Yamato wasn't told to train in wood jutsu). So, while it might not be an "official" bloodline limit, it does have something to do with genetics... like how a bloodline limit also has something to do with genetics.

[Glorious Ular]

Yes true, the debate is whether the wood jutsu is a bloodline limit or a gene trait. It is more of a gene trait then a bloodline limit. The gene trait was copied and transferred into Yamato. So therefor it is a Potential Bloodline!
Hell ya i got it!
The definition of a Bloodline limit is: The Kekkei Genkai are the abilities passed down from parent to child.

Source: http://leafninja.com/kekkei.php

[y.o.]

I said this b4 in a previous post in this same thread but this is what Im sayin, some nin do things to themselves in order to obtain power which is not neccisarily a bloodline, like shino's clan, or something extreme like what sasori did to himself! Whatever kisame did, and that other guy in atkuski did to themselves. Jutsu can be made that it seems that a clan or one person who finds out how to do it be unique, and 1st wanted to be exclusive and didnt teach anyone what he did to himself or how to do it to anyone else

[KageNaruto]

what did kisame do to himself? he looks like a fish, he mighta had a birth defect (u kisame hater!)!

and tsunade dosent actually need to have it. bloodlines arent always passed down (hakus mom), like some genetic info isnt always passe down.

and no u didnt answer why genes are needed. i guess its possible to create ur own bloodline limit if it requires ur genes, but if u created it its still a bloodline. but seriously, why do u put genes in som1 to teach them a jutsu? u could teach it to them without putting new genes in the person, unless the genes are neccesary, which makes it a bloodline.

and whats this with sasori? hes a puppet, i dont follow ur lead

[Volrath]

Where in the entire anime/manga was is said that Tsunade Couldn't use the firsts tree jutsus?? (this is a question)

I was under the inpression that she din't use it 'coz she wanted to be a medic nin.
Tree jutsus ain't to useful to a medic nin....

[kjrav]

So what your saying is if somone took kisames or sasories genes they'd end up looking like a fish or a being a puppet! That is the dumbest S**t i have ever heard! 8) Yo!

[y.o.]

The dumbest s*** you ever heard was ya mom tellin ya dad that she didnt %^&* the mail man! Obviously you arent bright enough to realize ehat that means, READ CARFULLY Dumba$$ ninja's do things to themselves physically or genetically to obtain power and thats exsactly what sasori and kisame did, it was a jutsu just took some time to research and do the procedure and its a possibly that the 1st did something to his genes (through research) and developed a way to maniulate wood, once again the exsample of the 1st kazekage researched and found a way to manipulate sand!

[imported_Greenlitflag]

The dumbest s*** you ever heard was ya mom tellin ya dad that she didnt %^&* the mail man! Obviously you arent bright enough to realize ehat that means, READ CARFULLY Dumba$$ ninja's do things to themselves physically or genetically to obtain power and thats exsactly what sasori and kisame did, it was a jutsu just took some time to research and do the procedure and its a possibly that the 1st did something to his genes (through research) and developed a way to maniulate wood, once again the exsample of the 1st kazekage researched and found a way to manipulate sand!

What exatctly did kisame do to himself....?

[kjrav]

The dumbest s*** you ever heard was ya mom tellin ya dad that she didnt %^&* the mail man! Obviously you arent bright enough to realize ehat that means, READ CARFULLY Dumba$$ ninja's do things to themselves physically or genetically to obtain power and thats exsactly what sasori and kisame did, it was a jutsu just took some time to research and do the procedure and its a possibly that the 1st did something to his genes (through research) and developed a way to maniulate wood, once again the exsample of the 1st kazekage researched and found a way to manipulate sand!

Obviously you dont listen to what you say if sasori did somthing to him self genetically it would be passed down thus creating a bloodline since its now a power thats passed down like a blood line if it was just phyisical it wouldnt be a bloodline but then it wouldnt pass down through his genes! In both theories oro probaly wouldnt have bothered with the firsts genes and just duplicated his research that would probally have been more reliable than genetic manipulation!and where might i ask do you get your imformation on the first Kazekage inventing manipulation on sand and on where in the series does it say Kisame did somthing to himself to look the way he looks!or is it more dumb made up S**t on your part my friend!

[Glorious Ular]

HAHA realy Y.O,
you have no proof that Kisame did something to himself. For all you know he could have been born like that. He IS from the village of
And you have no proof that Kazekage created the power of sand, HE IS THE FATHER OF GARRA!!!!!!

[imported_Greenlitflag]

Exactly. Unless we later figure out that kisame has a demon inside of him (or some other reason), then we can just assume that kisame was born like that much like how Orochimaru was born snake-like. And I think what y.o is talking about with the kazekage devolping a sand technique is....

Satetsu - Iron Sand:

Satetsu is a Ninjutsu technique utilized by Sandaime Kazekage. It was this most feared jutsu in Hidden Sand which granted Sandaime the honor of being called the strongest Kazekage yet. This jutsu was developed by Sandaime after seeing a previous Shukaku host do something similar. The sand is emited from the mouth and Sandaime can form it into any weapon he needs. Sandaime could do this because his body held special traits which allowed him to change his chakra into a magnetic field.

[CRtwenty]

When did Kisame do something to change his DNA? For all we know he was just born like that, kind of like those multi armed guys from the Village of Sound.

And the Third Kazekage (Gaara's dad was the Fourth BTW, and we have no idea what his powers were) copied his iron sand from a Jinchuuriki. It's not a bloodline trait, just a normal jutsu. (Sasori stated that his Human Puppets could use any Jutsus they'd known in life).

As for the tree thing. We have no idea if it's a bloodline or not, all we know is.

1. It was stated that the trees were a jutsu "Only the First could Use"

2. Yamato, a clone of the First is able to use wood jutsus.

3. Tsunade and Nawaki, blood relatives of the First never showed any signs of using wood based jutsu. (Granted Nawaki died the same episode he first appeared, but we have seen Tsunade fight a few times).

Not really enough evidence to draw a conclusion either way.

[y.o.]

All you did was strenthing my argument thats exactly what I meant, The kazekage had a jutsu that only he could do, and w/ his corpse the jutsu can be used also, and I dont know if kisame did anything to himself it was a edjucated guess cause he doesnt have a demon and looks like a fish, but that Oro argument was good and I do respect that!

[imported_Greenlitflag]

All you did was strenthing my argument thats exactly what I meant, The kazekage had a jutsu that only he could do, and w/ his corpse the jutsu can be used also, and I dont know if kisame did anything to himself it was a edjucated guess cause he doesnt have a demon and looks like a fish, but that Oro argument was good and I do respect that!

Well, it's not like I was "against you" so I was just helping people understand you better by posting the iron sand thing. And I think people just need to except that... well some people in the naruto world were born with special powers (that's the simpilist way to put it). It dosn't have to be a bloodline just.... well, some people are born with special powers.

[Glorious Ular]

Sorry for the typo
Kisame is from the village of hidden mist
and Kazakage isnt Garras father

[kjrav]

that makes sense i was just sayin to me it seems like more evidence points to it bein a bloodlimit than it not! 8) Yo!

[KageNaruto]

you cant be born with special powers unless a mutation happened, which is easily possible ninja-wise.

also i think kisame's dad is a shark, perhaps the one from jaws...



seriously with the tree thing it can go either way, but at the time i still belive its a bloodline. (about nawaki he was probably too young to even activate it if he could to start with)

[Glorious Ular]

But it cant be a bloodline yet it has to be passed down through generations or childeren. Its a gene trait that was stolen or (borrowed) form the first and transferred into a kid (or container)
If Yamato passes it down to his kids or something then it will become a bloodline limit in the future.
*This is all technincalities

[y.o.]

Exsactly, and either way its still hasnt been said to be a bloodline in the manga which means drum roles please,.,.,.,.. wait for it,..,.,.,., It Aint A Bloodline

[kjrav]

just b/c its not said has no effect on whether or not its a bloodline the only absolute truth that shows is that it wasnt said!and whats the difference between a blood trait and a gene trait! :?: 8) Yo!

[CRtwenty]

Until they say it's a bloodline, it's not a bloodline. It's just a technique that only the First, and his Clone Yamato can use.

Same thing goes for Kisame being a Jinchuuriki, and Yondaime being Naruto's Dad.

[KageNaruto]

so its a geneline then, anyway i still am not convinced that its not a bloodline. however i guess it could be a geneline

and if u look at real genetics traits arent always passed down

[kjrav]

What would be the difference bettween a geneline and a bloodline sice genes are passed down through blood any way! technically it would be the same thing! 8) Yo!

[CRtwenty]

what the hell is a geneline?

[kjrav]

i dont know somthing they made up? :? 8) Yo!

[KageNaruto]

well since ur saying controlling trees isnt a bloodline yet u need the 1sts genes to use them, the only word for that is geneline

[Glorious Ular]

What would be the difference bettween a geneline and a bloodline sice genes are passed down through blood any way! technically it would be the same thing! 8) Yo!

Like i have said MANY times
A Bloodline is a gene passed down through genetics from
parent to child (at least) or through a generation. Genes are passed
down through DNA and the first dna was copied or stolen and
placed into youngen of Yamato.

[KageNaruto]

not technically true. kakashi still has a kekai genkai, and he doesent even have uchiha dna.



also now i wanna see a person with one byakugan eye! lol

[imported_Greenlitflag]

not technically true. kakashi still has a kekai genkai, and he doesent even have uchiha dna.



also now i wanna see a person with one byakugan eye! lol

That'd be funny to see someone with one veiny white eye lol
And also, would their vision only be 180 or still 360?

[Glorious Ular]

not technically true. kakashi still has a kekai genkai, and he doesent even have uchiha dna.



also now i wanna see a person with one byakugan eye! lol

Kekai genkai is the bloodline limit and kakashi doesnt have a bloodline limit he just took the eye off of obito

Seriosly have you seen the entire anime and the recent manga's?????

[zazie the beast]

just because its not original theirs doesn't mean that its not a bloodline

[CRtwenty]

It's a bloodline, just not his.

That's the reason why he gets so weak after using the sharingan, because he's not an Uchiha.

[Glorious Ular]

Will Yamato show his strength in the next chapter??

[KageNaruto]

lol i love it glorius, ppl proved u wrong and then u tried to change the topic

[kjrav]

What would be the difference bettween a geneline and a bloodline sice genes are passed down through blood any way! technically it would be the same thing! 8) Yo!

Like i have said MANY times
A Bloodline is a gene passed down through genetics from
parent to child (at least) or through a generation. Genes are passed
down through DNA and the first dna was copied or stolen and
placed into youngen of Yamato.

Thats stupid DNA and Genes are essentially the same thing if you pass down genes you pass down DNA if you Pass down DNA you pass Down genes its all just away of sayin format for your body!Genes is just a more vauge term! 8) Yo!

[KageNaruto]

genes are in ur DNA, paasing down genes IS PASSING DOWN DNA

[Glorious Ular]

THATS WHAT IM GOD DAMN SAYING!
The genes were transferred into yamato not passed down through a parent so therefor isnt a bloodline.
And DNA is what your genes are in without dna you have no genes.

[KageNaruto]

i alrdy said that. genes are in ur DNA.

and its still a bloodline that yamoto posses (if its a bloodline which is very very arguable), it doesent have to be passed down through heredity to be a bloodline.

kakshi has a bloodline its just not his. but the sharingan kakashi has IS a bloodline!

seriosuly im getting tired of very noobish ppl

[CRtwenty]

We don't even know if it's a bloodline!!!

All we know is that it's a jutsu "Only the First can use" and that Yamato, who happens to be a clone of the First can use it. That's it... no bloodlines and/or genelines need apply.

For all we know it could be more like the human puppet Sasori used. Where he was able to use the jutsus that pperson knew in life. Yamato could be a sort of "Human Puppet" of the first, only with a will of his own.

[y.o.]

We don't even know if it's a bloodline!!!

All we know is that it's a jutsu "Only the First can use" and that Yamato, who happens to be a clone of the First can use it. That's it... no bloodlines and/or genelines need apply.

For all we know it could be more like the human puppet Sasori used. Where he was able to use the jutsus that pperson knew in life. Yamato could be a sort of "Human Puppet" of the first, only with a will of his own.All we know its a jutsu only the 1st knew how to use!!

[KageNaruto]

actually we know that the 1sts genes were put in yamoto! thats where mos tof the proof is coming from

[Glorious Ular]

THEY WERENT PUT, THEY WERE COPIED!!!!!

[KageNaruto]

thats the same frikin meaning, they didnt use to be in yamoto, now they are, big whoop if the word is slightly off it means the same thing

[kjrav]

The mere fact that the genes were nedded is proof!Im sure there are easier ways of copying jutsu than Gene transplant! 8) Yo!

[ssjasper2003]

I would like to see the bijuu control if it is possible.

[osiluver]

that dude is freaky...he was made in a lab
but still cool

[Glorious Ular]

Yes, Yamato is badass and i think he'll be the start of a whole new Bloodline limit.

[KageNaruto]

you mean the continuation?

[Glorious Ular]

Thats a debate i dont wanna get back into again.

[KageNaruto]

lol but thats what this thread is absicly about, however yeah we basicly said all there is to say about it.



but threads where you just go "hes badass!" are basicly spam

[y.o.]

I wish there would be an official site that can answer these type of questions, cause Im really getting sick of arguing w/ people about things that havent been stated but its what they think it is, like kisame, Oro, and now yamato

[CRtwenty]

Well there will probably be another infobook before too long. That should help answer some of these questions.

[y.o.]

Were can we find translated versions??

[regina777]

Were can we find translated versions??

translated versions are not fully out yet. I guess it will take some time to released them and it will be a very long project. unless a person knows how to read japanese othewise he has to wait.

[y.o.]

that link needs to posted ASAP

[Glorious Ular]

What translated versions are you talking about?

[CRtwenty]

that link needs to posted ASAP

check mangahelpers, they should have scanlations... though not necessarily HQ ones.

Um... there's that one French site that makes HQ scanlations... but they're in French. But if you wanted you could take their scans, and just replace the French with English. (Which I've done on occasion).

[y.o.]

for some reason I cant get on manga helpers w/ a link, or anything else

[Glorious Ular]

For the best latest online manga go to www.narutowill.com

[y.o.]

can yamoto do the jutsu the 1st did wile fighting the 3rd it was said that was one of the mre powerful mukuton jutsus!

[Glorious Ular]

well im guessing that the 1st's jutsu was way better.

[KageNaruto]

i think the 1st, since he develope dthem can just use them better and knows more about it, but if yamoto keeps training hell be just as good

[y.o.]

well that would only make sence!!

[Ichee]

I thnk Yamato would grow to be even stronger than the first.....

-_-

[y.o.]

I do too, I think he will have more time to use those justus than the 1st I really dont have anything to go off by saying that, but I think hes been aware of those particular powers longer.

Theres even more proof tree controling is not a bloodline, none of the 1st reletives use mokutoon jutsus besides him, his younger bro was the 2nd he couldnt use'em, his grandaughter, as what we seen nor could his grandson, it was something he alone hae the ability to do much like the 3rd kazekage and his ability to control metal! Or whatever it was he did!

[Glorious Ular]

Oh MY God that would be awsome if you could control metal!
think about it you could carry tiny ball bearings and shoot them. and you could control kunais and swords! WOO YA

[y.o.]

that old chick from the sand said that sandiame could do it, she said anything made of metal was pointless against him, and let us not forget we've seen someone w/ those powers b4 a certain mutant *uhhhmmmm* come to think of it same as w/ kimi, same comic same series a certain mutant by the name of marrow!!

[AK47]

there is nothing yamato can't do
the most impressive thing i saw him do is make that huge building

[Hellchild915]

Yeah being able to make a house with a jutsu is pretty impressive, I wonder what else he can make

[Corcoran]

I don't know how strong Yamato is, but he isn't Hokage level.
The Shodai Hokage could handle Orochimaru.

[AK47]

uh of course heès not hokage strength
kakashi is probably as strong as yamato so...

[KageNaruto]

I don't know how strong Yamato is, but he isn't Hokage level.
The Shodai Hokage could handle Orochimaru.

i dont think he can, so far the 1st two were the weakest of the bunch

[AK47]

yea we only think they're strong cuz they were the first two of the hokage bunch
but people can surpass them and i think orochimaru did

[KageNaruto]

well they dont have a big of a name as the 4th or 3rd. so yeah

dunno about tsunade she didnt recieve a title yet

[AK47]

well they dont have a big of a name as the 4th or 3rd. so yeah

dunno about tsunade she didnt recieve a title yet
it's big breasted granny

[Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee]

Or flat-busted old lady as jiraiya once said.

[Corcoran]

I dont think he can, so far the 1st two were the weakest of the bunch

No. You just have seen them as dead tools.
They were said to be the strongest of their time.

[AK47]

Yamato is a very strong ninja
i mean he has genes of 1st hokage that was one of strongest ninjas of all itme
i mean he has such great jutsus and i want to see a fight with him against orochimaru
although he will lose, it will be a great match

[KageNaruto]

I dont think he can, so far the 1st two were the weakest of the bunch

No. You just have seen them as dead tools.
They were said to be the strongest of their time.

of their time, duh, they were hokages they hadda be the strongest.

however the next generation of ninjas were much more powerful

[Pryce]

hmm Yamato i see him as like the strongest leaf nin other than the hokage and toad master

[KageNaruto]

kakashi is stronger though since he used to be in charge of their unit.

im also sure some other really high level jounin are stronger, but yeah yamoto is definitly up there in the top

[Pryce]

didnt someone say kakashis is no longer strong enough and they need someone betterbut still Yamato vs kajashi would be a good fight imo i think Yamato would win

[KageNaruto]

where the hell are you getting this info from?

kakashi has to recover from using mangekyu, so they assigned a temporarily captain, like a substitute, who was yamoto.

[Pryce]

toad guy said so he said he cant handle naruto or something close to that

[AK47]

toad guy said so he said he cant handle naruto or something close to that
that's only because yamato has the jinchyuuriki sealing power that the 1st hokage had, yamato has his genes remember?
and this is my 2001st post which also represents one year before the 2002 world cup

[Pryce]

its fuuny because u joined last month

[y.o.]

Wow! Thats really impressive or scary, I go w/ scary cause you have no life outside this forum!!

2004 post in 1 month, damn go get something to eat, or better yet go to sleep!

[Glorious Ular]

haha ya id say the same i mean how could you keep posting, it just gets old and boring. Especially because so many people are soo stupid.

[AK47]

it's because i moved and i live in the country side of the city
nothing outside cept rat shit and shit
i only golf and play bball or court sport on weekends and then i just go on my comp cuz the xbox is gay and i have to study for high school
but i procrastinate so i just go on here posting
and hey wehn i came on this forum many people didn't post and now everyone is coming cuz of me :D jk

[y.o.]

Well, Ive been a member for a while now and my post are pretty much spread out for how long Ive been here, but you have more than me and havent been a memeber nearly as long. I dont think I can even type all that w/o my fingers fallin off

[AK47]

i dunno
i type kinda fast because in school we had these typing games in elementary and i used to love them
yea i know it's pretty retarded but that's how i type fast
better than hand writing

[y.o.]

I type at a decent speed its just that writing that many post in such a short time you must have written 150 on a daily basis!

[KageNaruto]

you guys think well see yamoto do somehting new in chapter 308 or 309?

[y.o.]

hopefully, I want to see him whoop sauske's ass! Oro too if he dares to show his face!

[AK47]

well yamato just got his ass whooped after trying to save sakura from getting hurt
instead got hurt from sasuke
i wonder if we're gonna see him fight in this chapter, he looks like he's gonna get knocked out.

[y.o.]

Well obviously that post was made b4 we seen sauske own him!!

[Uchiha Adrian]

hes a weak peanut!

[y.o.]

I wouldnt say that, thats a honest mistake, although he should have sent a mokuton buushin instead, but he might not have had time!

[AK47]

Well obviously that post was made b4 we seen sauske own him!!
haha i didn't reply to your post sry
i was just making a statement lol
yeah i was thinking that he would've sent another bunshin to assist him agianst sasuke and then do a surprise attack thing
but sasuke's new chidori is crzy, i wonder how many times he can use it..

[y.o.]

I think it really sucks that sauske can use his most powerful moves only a few times while naruto and others can use theres all day, like kaiten, I bet neji can do that all day!

Sauske ultimate defense can probly only be done in conjunction w/ reg chidori a total of 3, or reg chidori 4 times, chidori current 2!