[Character] The Akatsuki

[ArenaNinja]

This dawned on me after seeing CR's explanation of the demons..

To this day, I think we've been too focused on the whole Sasuke vs. Naruto thing to not notice the real stuff.. Kisame!! That's right, even the Akatsuki's leader acknowledges that he has an inmense amount of chakra, even by Akatsuki standards.. So, may it be that Aktatsuki has been in operation for longer than we have known and they already have some dirty work completed?? Could they have extracted the Biju Isonade (the Three-Tailed shark) and implanted it on Kisame? (NOTE: Kisame actually means 'Demon Shark'!)

This would explain a little bit, at the very least their numbers... Akatsuki consists of 9 members, and there are 9 Biju.. Maybe they plan to have their power on a one-to-one basis, with the leader aiming for the Kyuubi itself? Cmon ppl, this is where the real action is! :twisted:

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

i say he has it but not too many ppl agree even i pointed out good evidence

[kjrav]

Probaly has it but then why put it in that statue and not just put it directly into it's owner and I thought they already captured 2 so who has the other one and wouldn't that put him/her on Kismes level Chakra wise! 8) Yo!

[imported_partlink1]

i think either the statue holds then semon until they find a jinchuuki

or the demons chakra's will mix making uber demon with45 tails

[thecheat]

I highly doubt they could blend all the demons to create one bad ass one

[imported_partlink1]

i know i was just messing around

[The_Three_Pains]

i agree, thecheat, no way would they be able to put the demons in a blender and hope something good comes out

[thecheat]

hahaha, hey three pains remember that time we kinapped that goat rolled him up in a carpet and threw him off a bridge

I dunno why I said that, but I did!

[thecheat]

also I really like the theory that they put the Shark demon is Kisame

[thecheat]

wow what I just wrote made little to no sense

also I really like the theory that they put the Shark demon in Kisame

thats betta

[kjrav]

your very lonely arn't you! 8) Yo!

[KageNaruto]

the cheat u cant double or even worse triple post

[thecheat]

who says?

[timeforsleeep]

I'm sure a mod will be happy to swoop in and say you can't.

[thecheat]

thats stupid, whats wrong with that I was just correcting my mistake
okay the first post was stupid but sall good

okay im dumb, I didn't realize you could edit your posts
im sorry im new to this

[KageNaruto]

there is a thing called edit button! who says: amybe if u read the rule sof the forum u wouldnt have to ask. if u continiuosly double post u can be banned

[thecheat]

hey man I learned my mistake, and why did you say "there is such thing as an edit button" after I already edited my previous post apolgizing

[ArenaNinja]

Man quit spamming my thread :x

After seeing you guys had gone over 1 page I was like 'man they must've had good ideas..' i look at it and IT'S SPAM!

Any real feedback here?

[CRtwenty]

This dawned on me after seeing CR's explanation of the demons..

To this day, I think we've been too focused on the whole Sasuke vs. Naruto thing to not notice the real stuff.. Kisame!! That's right, even the Akatsuki's leader acknowledges that he has an inmense amount of chakra, even by Akatsuki standards.. So, may it be that Aktatsuki has been in operation for longer than we have known and they already have some dirty work completed?? Could they have extracted the Biju Isonade (the Three-Tailed shark) and implanted it on Kisame? (NOTE: Kisame actually means 'Demon Shark'!)

This would explain a little bit, at the very least their numbers... Akatsuki consists of 9 members, and there are 9 Biju.. Maybe they plan to have their power on a one-to-one basis, with the leader aiming for the Kyuubi itself? Cmon ppl, this is where the real action is! :twisted:

Yea, we've dicussed the fact that Kisame could be a Jinchuuriki or some relation to the demon shark Isonade. There's a lot of evidence that points to it. (For example, his sword Samehada is named after a small fish that accompanies Isonade in the Tale of the Bijuu)

y.o and I had a pretty long arguement over this a few months ago, and what we came up with was that, despite lots of hints, there is no conclusive evidence. So until somebody in the series actually states a connection, it's only a theory.

[ChompChomp]

Ororichimaru lookss like a snake aslo has the sword inside 8 tails also was in akatsuki and his name resembles it too that my point is your guess about kisame is about as good as ororichmaru have the 8 tails

[CRtwenty]

Yea, but we know now that Orochimaru's looks are due to the mask he wears. And if Oro WAS a Jinchuuriki don't you think he would have released some of his demon power when fighting against the Third?

[y.o.]

I have argued this to death, NO ORO NOR DOES KISAME POSSES A DEMON, thats absurd, atkuski is collecting demons not giving them out, and just cause he looks that way it aint b/c of the demon, some characters look wierd, like the spider dude, just cause he looks like that he must have a spdider demon, or zetsku has a plant demon, thats stupid!!

[Uchiha_Madara]

Thanks Y.O Why cant all the other people get it? why do they persist? the akatsuki CANT AND ARNT TRYING TO "IMPLANT" THE BIJUU!
This makes no sense, they want to get the bijuu into the statue and then release them and try to control them, i am sick of saying this, and of people insisting that Kisame etc have Bijuu..

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

so why sasori tell dedria that we are allowed only 1 or something along those lines.and when they have flahbacks of the seven swordmen shinobo kisame looks the same and he must of had the same sword he proably already ahd the bujuu when he was in the hidden mist.but i agree that kisame has the three tails i don't if it hasn't been proven yet either i'm sticking to that belief.

[ArenaNinja]

OMFG I can't believe this.. I was actually missing Manga #261... LOL

They're trying to make a new demon.. it's shown.. Notice how the Statue that they have has 2 eyes open, and they have extracted 2 Bijuu.. LOL it all adds up now

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

no there not what sense would that make just to make one uber demon thier want the power of the bujuu to use for themselves and become all powerfull i say there gonna give u the demon that you caught.

[kjrav]

if there putting the demons in themselves then why the statue :?: ! 8) Yo!

[Hiyo]

[SPOILER:]


The akatsuki are gathering all the demons so they have the complete set to sell on ebay and use the money to fund the production of their new "Akatsuki" clothing line. The reason they are sealing them in the statue is cause they are all S-class criminals and no one trusts the others to undercut their share!

[KageNaruto]

its probably has something special to it. i mean shukaku was sealed in a teapot

[ArenaNinja]

I'd buy clothing with red lines on it..

Seriously, look at the statue's # of eyes and the # of open eyes is the equivalent to the # of extracted Biju.. I retract from my earlier point seeing how I was missing this issue (261). Even Chijo says they're trying to make a new Jinchuuriki

[y.o.]

so why sasori tell dedria that we are allowed only 1 or something along those lines.and when they have flahbacks of the seven swordmen shinobo kisame looks the same and he must of had the same sword he proably already ahd the bujuu when he was in the hidden mist.but i agree that kisame has the three tails i don't if it hasn't been proven yet either i'm sticking to that belief.

well smart assif he had the bijuu to begin w/ (while still w/ the 7 swordsmen of the mist) Then he wouldnt be in atkuski now would he, they would have taken it from him obviously there are literally people on the waitin list to become atkuski as evidence of tobi!! And why would sasori tell diedra only one demon per person ummmmm!! b/c it is a test of thier strenth! Once all gathered they get possed by one, they are all asigned to get one by the leader, and if you let someone else get yours then your not doing your job, thus dont deserve to be a part of atkuski, there are 1000 reasons why, pic 1, none of which means, ass soon as you capture one we will put it into you!

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

so why sasori tell dedria that we are allowed only 1 or something along those lines.and when they have flahbacks of the seven swordmen shinobo kisame looks the same and he must of had the same sword he proably already ahd the bujuu when he was in the hidden mist.but i agree that kisame has the three tails i don't if it hasn't been proven yet either i'm sticking to that belief.

well smart assif he had the bijuu to begin w/ (while still w/ the 7 swordsmen of the mist) Then he wouldnt be in atkuski now would he, they would have taken it from him obviously there are literally people on the waitin list to become atkuski as evidence of tobi!! And why would sasori tell diedra only one demon per person ummmmm!! b/c it is a test of thier strenth! Once all gathered they get possed by one, they are all asigned to get one by the leader, and if you let someone else get yours then your not doing your job, thus dont deserve to be a part of atkuski, there are 1000 reasons why, pic 1, none of which means, ass soon as you capture one we will put it into you!

i didn't say that now did i.and kisame proably was one of those ppl who was on the list and said hey i already got one guys and i'm down with the whole world domnation thing and then they just let him join.and how do u know it's to test thier strnght no one really fears the leader they just respect him like itachi's attitude towards sasori.why would thye have to prove thier strenght when thier already in Akatsuki

[ChompChomp]

thats pretty stupid considering if i had a demon sealed in me id kill them so i will be the only strongest fark the leader im the new leader >:)

[y.o.]

so why sasori tell dedria that we are allowed only 1 or something along those lines.and when they have flahbacks of the seven swordmen shinobo kisame looks the same and he must of had the same sword he proably already ahd the bujuu when he was in the hidden mist.but i agree that kisame has the three tails i don't if it hasn't been proven yet either i'm sticking to that belief.

well smart assif he had the bijuu to begin w/ (while still w/ the 7 swordsmen of the mist) Then he wouldnt be in atkuski now would he, they would have taken it from him obviously there are literally people on the waitin list to become atkuski as evidence of tobi!! And why would sasori tell diedra only one demon per person ummmmm!! b/c it is a test of thier strenth! Once all gathered they get possed by one, they are all asigned to get one by the leader, and if you let someone else get yours then your not doing your job, thus dont deserve to be a part of atkuski, there are 1000 reasons why, pic 1, none of which means, ass soon as you capture one we will put it into you!

i didn't say that now did i.and kisame proably was one of those ppl who was on the list and said hey i already got one guys and i'm down with the whole world domnation thing and then they just let him join.and how do u know it's to test thier strnght no one really fears the leader they just respect him like itachi's attitude towards sasori.why would thye have to prove thier strenght when thier already in Akatsuki


Obviously you didnt read, I clearly said those were POSSIBLE REASONS! No were is it stated that its a fact, its just dumb to assume kisame has a demon, they would have said that already, there would be absolutly no reason to keep that a secret by now!! why does everyone who has a ability have to have a demon! ?

[Hachi_roku]

I also believe that Kisame has Isonade inside. I also think that Diedra(SP?) has the mole in him. I forgfet how many tails that one has. Afterall Diedra is still alive and has some abilities of that certain Bijuu. If Kisame doesnt have Isonade inside of him, then I think its pretty reasonable to say he stole Samehada from Isonade.

[phoenix]

well if guys are just gonna assume things like the kisame theory then it would also b true that Oro has the 8th demon iside him like kisame & sharks is basically what oro is with snakes u just cant judge a book by its cover or in this case a manga

[y.o.]

Finally someone w/ common sense!! Great statement, although I dought that will do anything to persuade them other wise until they find that out in the manga.

[regina777]

ooh!!! there is another kisame is a jinchuuriki with isonade etc again!!!

this has never been stated anywhere- i dont care whether in the future i am proven wrong by kishimoto or not- that doesnt matter to me at all.

as at now, i think and as always that all the spirits of the demons captured by akatsuki are in those akatsuki statues(are they statues- i have to go read the manga again).

[Raijin]

OH! There was another who was part of Akatsuki. He had 2 swords and that kid who could see outside of the cloak... and he controlled thunder or something.

He detests Oro-sama and such.

Perhaps it's their special abilities which are used to counter-act the Bijuu?

Also, getting the Bijuu and putting them into a giant statue makes sense. Then they could control the statue through just the chakras of all of them, cause their chakras would meld together!

Naruto's chakra melds with Kyuubi's so he can use it cause of the seal on him.
Perhaps it's the same idea.

[y.o.]

What in the?!??! That guy was part of the 7 swordsmen of the mist he had nothing to do w/ atkuski, and he just didnt like anyone stronger than himself, and he never came across Oro it was Kisame, and that was a filler episode, keep fillers in the anime section please!!

And that last statement didnt make alot of sense either

[Raijin]

Whoa. Alrighty. Sorry.

Lemme see if I can clear it up.

There's gotta be a reason for their drastic similarities to the Bijuu. There's much more than just a coincidence going on there.

And about the idea of the Bijuu being brought into the statue and the statue acting as a throughput for it all so that it can become the most powerful thing ever, makes sense.

Think about it. They're sealing them in the statue, but nobody really knows why, other than they're collecting them and want power.

Now, in order to keep them in the statue, they must seal them there.
Naruto has the Kyuubi sealed within' himself in such a way that its chakra can flow out and Naruto can use it.
Perhaps it's the same thing.
The chakra of all the Bijuu's would seep through the seals and mix together to possibly create a powerful chakra and thus a powerful killing machine that they can use.

[y.o.]

But alot of people say that Oro has the 8 tails in him b/c he acts, looks, and uses snake jutsu's, but if you pay attention he's looked like that since he was young, so either he had that bijuu in him since he was like 6 or its a coincedence, which I think its neither, I think its character design

[imported_partlink1]

well 2 two things

1. Y.O. calm down people have different belief no need to be a raving nut job

2. well the 2 bijuus we've seen so far have had them in since birth naruto newly born got kyuubi

gaara-got it before he was born(i think or just a little while after)[/quote]

[y.o.]

Thanks for the insght ohh wise one, who just informed everyone that naruto and Garra had demons since birth, I would have never guessed

[imported_partlink1]

so either he had that bijuu in him since he was like 6 or its a coincedence

okay i'm just going to make this my last post in this thread for a while since it's not a private chatroom

so oh wise smart !@# if he has the jinchuuriku he could of had it since birth

but pretty good odds he doesn't unless he recieved it with akatsuki


there are a couple things i would like to say to you Y.O. but won't because i'll probably get banned :!:

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

But alot of people say that Oro has the 8 tails in him b/c he acts, looks, and uses snake jutsu's, but if you pay attention he's looked like that since he was young, so either he had that bijuu in him since he was like 6 or its a coincedence, which I think its neither, I think its character design

no one mentioned oror here so lets stop talking about him having a dmeon because he grew up in konohoa as a human and if he did have a demon at least the hokage would now.and if it was put in him after he left konohoa or after akatsuki he wold have showed it's power when he was fighting the third hokage.but kisame looks like a shark,has a sword that belongs to the shark demon and whcih it only listens to the shark dmeon and kisame did tell gai that his sword can oby be weilded by him so osmething along those lines.the leader of akatsuki also said that he has more chakra than all of them or something similar to that and thats why they need his chakra for the demon releasing thing.to me thats more than enough evidence for me to believe that he has the 3 tailed demon in him.and Y.O stop shouting at every1 attack what i say don't attck me

[Raijin]

But alot of people say that Oro has the 8 tails in him b/c he acts, looks, and uses snake jutsu's, but if you pay attention he's looked like that since he was young, so either he had that bijuu in him since he was like 6 or its a coincedence, which I think its neither, I think its character design

no one mentioned oror here so lets stop talking about him having a dmeon because he grew up in konohoa as a human and if he did have a demon at least the hokage would now.and if it was put in him after he left konohoa or after akatsuki he wold have showed it's power when he was fighting the third hokage.but kisame looks like a shark,has a sword that belongs to the shark demon and whcih it only listens to the shark dmeon and kisame did tell gai that his sword can oby be weilded by him so osmething along those lines.the leader of akatsuki also said that he has more chakra than all of them or something similar to that and thats why they need his chakra for the demon releasing thing.to me thats more than enough evidence for me to believe that he has the 3 tailed demon in him.and Y.O stop shouting at every1 attack what i say don't attck me

YES!

AND NO!

AT THE SAME TIME! :D :lol:

You see, they're collecting them. If he really did have it in him, they would have taken it.

But you're totally right on the Oro-sama thing.

It could be that Kisame is only saying those things cause he wants to sound cool (That seems to be a big issue in this :P ) or perhaps he's just saying it to scare people.

Either way, why the hell does he have gills on his CHEECKS? Real practical there. :P :lol:

[imported_partlink1]

I think kisame has the fish demon(forgot name) because each jinchuuriki that we've seen shares some sort of trait with the bijuu thats probably why he has the fish gills.

and if he has it, that kind of tells me that each person, the 9akatsuki members, will recieve 1 of the 9 demons. and that it's whatever your overall specialized in the bijuu with that power is yours so kind f makes sense for itachi to go after the kyuubi.


i know this doesn't make much sense but i think you get my overall point

[Raijin]

Well, depending on all the others, why would Itachi go for Kyuubi?

I probably have some kind of wrong look on his personality... He just doesn't strike me as one who'd want more power by taking something into him.

The question is, if they're going to do something like bind the demons to themselves? So far the only jutsu I've seen that can do that would be the one that the third used on Oro-samas arms and even that damned him to eternal pain with the first, second, and some arms. XD

[y.o.]

Thats b/c you havent thought it through, its b/c of his looks or strength b/c Oro looks like a snake, and uses snake jutsu, and is incredibly strong, but its impossible for him to have a bijuu, I dont feel like explaining why either, but if atkuski was putting bijuu in themselves they would wait till they had all of them to keep a balance of power, why have some members be that much stronger than the rest, if you ask me atkuski is all about balance

Ever notice a kanton user, and a suiton user team up, or two weapon specialist or tool users sasoris puppets, diedras clay they wouldnt unbalance thier power like that


Itachi would glady take Kyuubi cause hes power hungry, thats why he killed his clan, not to mention if he can beat the owner of kyuubi he deserves to have it

Reason I mention Oro is cause HE LOOKS LIKE A SNAKE and there is a snake like demon, just cause there is a fish demon and someone has a fish demon doesnt mean they have that demon

[kjrav]

I have not seen any real evidence for oro not to be the 8 tailed snake oro unless i am mistaken is an orphan so it is easy for such things to be unknown by the village and the third said he relized from the begining that oro was EVIL :twisted: ! And they are shinobi so it would have been very stratigically advantageous for oro to hide his Demon stength from 3rd after all he was being watched by the Anbu and everyone needs a trumpcard he still wants leaf under his control!And as for Kisame he probaly just convinced them to let him join and ignore the fact that he had an Bijju already which is why he was helping Itachi with Naruto b/c he already got his 8) Yo!

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

I have not seen any real evidence for oro not to be the 8 tailed snake oro unless i am mistaken is an orphan so it is easy for such things to be unknown by the village and the third said he relized from the begining that oro was EVIL :twisted: ! And they are shinobi so it would have been very stratigically advantageous for oro to hide his Demon stength from 3rd after all he was being watched by the Anbu and everyone needs a trumpcard he still wants leaf under his control!And as for Kisame he probaly just convinced them to let him join and ignore the fact that he had an Bijju already which is why he was helping Itachi with Naruto b/c he already got his 8) Yo!

okay your last statement i agree with but the wjole oro thing is so outa here.oro was about to die why would he risk hiding such a secret to his death.and oro wasn't evil when he was a kid he had malice in his eyes and the third knew that he was a good kid but was gonna end up disobeying ppl and stuff.and akatsuki isn't really balanced sasori was stronger than dedira and he said it himself.and itachi seems to be stronger than kisame to me too.

[kjrav]

Malice is the same as evil to me and he probaly underestimated the 3rd b/c of his old age by then it was to late not to mention he didn't now the jutsu and thought the 3rd din't have enough chakra to pull it off not to mention he is overly cocky and thinks he is immortal 8) !Yo!

[y.o.]

I have not seen any real evidence for oro not to be the 8 tailed snake oro unless i am mistaken is an orphan so it is easy for such things to be unknown by the village and the third said he relized from the begining that oro was EVIL :twisted: ! And they are shinobi so it would have been very stratigically advantageous for oro to hide his Demon stength from 3rd after all he was being watched by the Anbu and everyone needs a trumpcard he still wants leaf under his control!And as for Kisame he probaly just convinced them to let him join and ignore the fact that he had an Bijju already which is why he was helping Itachi with Naruto b/c he already got his 8) Yo!


your evidence is as follows, he was always strong to begin w/ the 3rd said so, ever since he was young, 2nd since he was young he's looked like a snake, its not the traits of the demon just him!! If he did have the demon in him b/c he looks that way he would have had it since he was like 6 yrs old in konoha, they would have deffinetly mentioned it, IF he had that power, but he doesnt, In summary, him looking like a snake and using and summoning snakes has nothing to do w/ that demon, its just what he preference tha same way it is for jariya and frogs, which most of his jutsus we've seen thus far have been frogs!!

[kjrav]

If he had it scince he was a baby like naruto and Garra then that explains for his immense power since young and him looking like asnake when he was young and if he is an orphan easy for few or none to have known about it!And preference of snakes comes from his spiritual connection to snake demon! 8) Yo!

[y.o.]

you gotta be joking, an orphan kid was som how able to keep a demon 2nd most powerful by the way hidden and a secret for years in the village and no one ever knew or suspected!?

Anyway a demon posses a body not a sprite, there chakra mixes but its 2 seperate beings sharing a body, w/ that being said Oro has switched bodies 3 times, he would have left the demon along time ago, which I dont think he would have gave up that power for a younger body

[Glorious Ular]

How do you think you become a member of Akatsuki?

I think you might have to fight a certain amount of the members or just the leader. Then they would judge if you are strong enough.

[DukeAbercrombie]

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[superkhanh0]

lol where did u get that info

[DukeAbercrombie]

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[Nepenthe]

where did the manga give any info, lols

Well, there was one part in the last arc when Sakura and chiyo were fighting Sasori. Sasori said he hadn't had to use "himself" aginst anyone since he was accpeted into Akatsuki.

That probably means he had to fight either the Leader or another powerful member.

and what do you mean that would be too barbaric? EVERYTHING is solved by fighting in Naruto.

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

them fighting isn't barbaric and you proably do have to fight for while it's like joining a gang or the founding members might bless you in

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

good point and oro wasn't such a strong ninja when he was younger tsunade was able to get the bell from the third too i think the sannin were as strong as team 7 except for sakura when they were in the perliminary matches or a lil bit weaker.

[Hiyo]

I doubt anyone tries to join akatsuki. It's more like the members of the akatsuki learn about specific people and test them to see if they are the right type of person to join. I doubt fighting has anything to do with it.

[Raijin]

OK! OK OK!....OK! whoa.

See, Oro doesn't have a Bijuu. Nobody but Naruto and Gaara do.

However! Naruto's stands out more cause the chakra of the Kyuubi and his mix which causes physicals traits due to how it was sealed within' him.

Gaara is just an insomniac, he doesn't show any real traits as to how he looks. Why? Cause of how it was sealed within' him!

So, just cause Akatsuki members look like Bijuu doesn't mean they have them in them unless they were sealed by the same seal that Naruto has, which would mean that people would have had to die, which I highly doubt would happen since it's a high level Jutsu that apparently only the Yondaime and Sandaime knew.

None are Bijuu cause the Bijuu are all out and about in the world, awaiting awakenment or just destroying things.

[Raijin]

where did the manga give any info, lols

Well, there was one part in the last arc when Sakura and chiyo were fighting Sasori. Sasori said he hadn't had to use "himself" aginst anyone since he was accpeted into Akatsuki.

That probably means he had to fight either the Leader or another powerful member.

and what do you mean that would be too barbaric? EVERYTHING is solved by fighting in Naruto.

Probably right! :O

Violence = The Answer to Everything! Ever!

[KageNaruto]

I doubt anyone tries to join akatsuki. It's more like the members of the akatsuki learn about specific people and test them to see if they are the right type of person to join. I doubt fighting has anything to do with it.

and how do they test them wothout fighting!? if it was in IQ, theyd want shika badly.

and no memebers join, remember tobi wants to join, and they dont really want him 2

[KageNaruto]

Thats b/c you havent thought it through, its b/c of his looks or strength b/c Oro looks like a snake, and uses snake jutsu, and is incredibly strong, but its impossible for him to have a bijuu, I dont feel like explaining why either, but if atkuski was putting bijuu in themselves they would wait till they had all of them to keep a balance of power, why have some members be that much stronger than the rest, if you ask me atkuski is all about balance

Ever notice a kanton user, and a suiton user team up, or two weapon specialist or tool users sasoris puppets, diedras clay they wouldnt unbalance thier power like that


Itachi would glady take Kyuubi cause hes power hungry, thats why he killed his clan, not to mention if he can beat the owner of kyuubi he deserves to have it

Reason I mention Oro is cause HE LOOKS LIKE A SNAKE and there is a snake like demon, just cause there is a fish demon and someone has a fish demon doesnt mean they have that demon

oro's body switch wuld most likely get rid of the demon. also jiraiya uses frog jutsus! oo he got a frog demon! lol (well he did swamp and frog belly jutsus)

also itachi isnt power hungry, he is testing capacity hungry lol. i think its a bit diff.

also why ita after naruto? well i belive he is prob among the strongest out of all the katsuki. the leader prob just stays in the lair and orders ppl, like a hokage of the akatsuki

[Raijin]

He just hangs out and eats pizza while playing Ninja Gaiden on the Xbox? :P

[Raijin]

"Shower, then come back!" XD

You know, alot of the Akatsuki aren't that strong.

And if you notice, they all have something alike.

They're all Missing-nin's.

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

lol i doubt that itachi is the strongest tho maybe top 5 but not the second and itachi proably wants the kyuubi th emost for it's infinite chakra he could use his MS all day everyday lol but then he'll go blind

[y.o.]

well the kyuubi also heals so, I think that it will give alot of chakra and keep his eyes completly healed in the process

also it was never said that he was the 2nd strongest, jst one of he strongest

[Glorious Ular]

What are you talking about! The Akatsuki are the strongest force in the naruto manga! The reason there all missing nins is because there all to strong for their village and they seek more power!

[The_Three_Pains]

How do you know that, Raijin?
Havn't use noticed that all of the atkatsuki we've seen so far have more in common than being missing-nins!!

They are all seeking power, extremely bad-assed shinobis!

If members of the atkatsuki were not all that powerful they would have no chance of capturing and subduing jinchuri!!

Can you name one member that we have seen of atkatsuki so far that "isn't that strong"?

thats what i thought

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

everybody in akatsuki is way above the jounin lv just from looking at the four members we've seen fight so far.kisame forced gai to open 7 gates and he was only using 30% of his power itachi completly pawned kakashi the first time they meet kakasi still can get pawned even if he has a MS too.sasori hesistated and let chiyo and sakura kill him.dedira well she beat garra who was a kazekage and was using the demon's hand thing to attck her with a big improvement.thos 4 are just kick ass alone and seriosly doubt that thier the strongest of akatsuki.

[KageNaruto]

i though it was 6 gates, lemme go check


yes it was 6 gates. and remember neji tenten and lee were also helping figh kisame, kisame is definitly one of the most powerful, thats why hes teamed with itachi.

yea gais flaming fists of 6 gates that was pretty kool

[kjrav]

I have another person who was a member who is real strong OCHIMARU who if I remember correctly said Itachi was stronger than him! 8) Yo!

[kjrav]

OK! OK OK!....OK! whoa.

See, Oro doesn't have a Bijuu. Nobody but Naruto and Gaara do.

However! Naruto's stands out more cause the chakra of the Kyuubi and his mix which causes physicals traits due to how it was sealed within' him.

Gaara is just an insomniac, he doesn't show any real traits as to how he looks. Why? Cause of how it was sealed within' him!

So, just cause Akatsuki members look like Bijuu doesn't mean they have them in them unless they were sealed by the same seal that Naruto has, which would mean that people would have had to die, which I highly doubt would happen since it's a high level Jutsu that apparently only the Yondaime and Sandaime knew.

None are Bijuu cause the Bijuu are all out and about in the world, awaiting awakenment or just destroying things.\


I highly doubt that Garra and Naruto are the only jurinchii(hope i spelled it right) and Garra does have some if not at lest one racoon traits i mean look at his eyes black all around like racoon mask I doubt that comes from Just insomnia! 8) Yo!

[CRtwenty]

Tanuki, not Raccoon.

[y.o.]

They clearly said that the rings around his eyes were from insomnia

[KageNaruto]

yes, but we know jiraiya is stronger than itachi. my theory is that their fighting styles differ so much that oro is weak to itachi.

however no1 is super sure of anything(there were huge arguments about this, plz dont start it)

[KageNaruto]

insominia is not sleeping right?

[imported_partlink1]

They clearly said that the rings around his eyes were from insomnia

Y.O. not disagreeing with you but provide information about when they said that and


kage your right: insomnia is not from sleeping or your constantly waking up

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

he's right but when he got punched by lee i swear i saw some wiskers or osmething on his cheek

[kjrav]

I don't care how little sleep you get I have mild insomnia and you wouldn't see me with rings that dark! Besides he has had those rings since he was little(forget how old probaly like 7) so he hadn't had ample time to develop the ability to stay awake for long periods of time yet and even if he had gone 5 years with out sleep ( 5 b/c he definatley couldn't do it while he was a baby) won't get you rings that dark! 8) Yo!

[Uchiha Adrian]

i think itachi will be 1 of the strongest but not the strongest.

[Uchiha Adrian]

I think oro cud stand toe to toe with any member from ataksuki

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

I don't care how little sleep you get I have mild insomnia and you wouldn't see me with rings that dark! Besides he has had those rings since he was little(forget how old probaly like 7) so he hadn't had ample time to develop the ability to stay awake for long periods of time yet and even if he had gone 5 years with out sleep ( 5 b/c he definatley couldn't do it while he was a baby) won't get you rings that dark! 8) Yo!

he never went to sleep since he had the demon he's been up his whole life which is not possible but it's a cartoon

[y.o.]

He sleeps but not much, Frog boss says it to naruto during thier fight w/ garra, right b4 garra fully realesed shakaku!

And as far as the wiskers thing, I think that was to show tha different layers of skin thats all

[KageNaruto]

as for the kisame having a bijuu, more proof:

when neji sees him hes like: "ive never seen any1 with that large amount of chakra since naruto"

[KageNaruto]

i doubt that with could with the leader

[CRtwenty]

I think oro cud stand toe to toe with any member from ataksuki

Hard to tell, considering we still haven't seen 4 members of it, including the leader.

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

i forgot about that one too naruto has more chakra than kakashi and almost every other ninja in konohoa because his chakra mixies with the kyuubi making his stronger constantly.just having that much chakra isn't normal unless your a kage or something.

[y.o.]

as for the kisame having a bijuu, more proof:

when neji sees him hes like: "ive never seen any1 with that large amount of chakra since naruto"


I know but no other bijuu has as much chakra as the 9 tails, and not all methods of sealing are the same, naruto is set up so that he can use the 9 tails chakra, while garras was set up differently, not to mention I dont think you can use the chakra of all demons the same way kyuubi naruto uses kyuubi

I think it will be the traits of all the other jinchukki will be different, control over sand auto defence, control over the elements, the strongest chakra etc... type thing, not all usin bijuu chakra! Plus I dont see another reason he would be in atkuski he doesnt have a bloodline limit, and not at all like Oro which I dont think he's as strong as so its gotta be another reason he's w/ them something that sets him apart, his chakra capasity

[y.o.]

I doubt anyone tries to join akatsuki. It's more like the members of the akatsuki learn about specific people and test them to see if they are the right type of person to join. I doubt fighting has anything to do with it.

I agree w/ that statement, they probly were recruited or watched and proved thereselves some how some way

[regina777]

I doubt anyone tries to join akatsuki. It's more like the members of the akatsuki learn about specific people and test them to see if they are the right type of person to join. I doubt fighting has anything to do with it.

I agree w/ that statement, they probly were recruited or watched and proved thereselves some how some way

this is a valid statement. it would be foolhardy to just waltz into their offices and say i am well qualified so let me join. Look at how Tobi has been tailing them just waiting for one to die just to get a chance- why hasnt he been allowed to join since they have been 8 members for a while and apparently they know of his presence.
All the ninjas we know so far like ORO, ITACHI, KISAME are powerful missing nin who were known to have been really strong or did something to prove their strengths as well as been bad and ambitious.

[kjrav]

Makes sense but their has to more to him than havin alot of chakra other wise hed be weak chakra don't matta if yas weak man! 8) Yo!

[KageNaruto]

im not saying he is a bijuu im just daying thats more proof to it, in that matter im still undecided. by the way, how does kisame's sword suck chakra!? there has to be something special to it :shock:

[kjrav]

unless im mistaken its named after a small fish that feeds off of larger fish in this case the 3rd tail bijju and since bijju are manefestations of chakra so to feed off them you feed off pure chakra hence his sword feeds off chakra! since the sword only listens to kisame and its named after a fish thats connected to the 3rd tail its in a way more proof of him having 3rd tail! 8) Yo!

[KageNaruto]

thats what i slightly thought. like both him and his sword have the demon in them or something

[KageNaruto]

I doubt anyone tries to join akatsuki. It's more like the members of the akatsuki learn about specific people and test them to see if they are the right type of person to join. I doubt fighting has anything to do with it.

I agree w/ that statement, they probly were recruited or watched and proved thereselves some how some way

this is a valid statement. it would be foolhardy to just waltz into their offices and say i am well qualified so let me join. Look at how Tobi has been tailing them just waiting for one to die just to get a chance- why hasnt he been allowed to join since they have been 8 members for a while and apparently they know of his presence.
All the ninjas we know so far like ORO, ITACHI, KISAME are powerful missing nin who were known to have been really strong or did something to prove their strengths as well as been bad and ambitious.

omg they have to fight. how did they know if oro or kisame are strong? they didnt. they have to test em, as if fighting wise. the only other way of testing is IQ wise, and theyd want shikamaru to join if they were after that

[kjrav]

Probaly to seperate demons the sword obviously having a weaker servant demon and he having a stronger master demon Mabey not even a bijju im sure ther are lesser demons he could use and he wants the bijju instead to become stronger since aktasui are capturing bijju its his chance to get it for himself ! 8) Yo!

[kjrav]

Not only Shikamaru but also Sakura and her big head oh excuse me big fore head! 8) Yo!

[y.o.]

you are all right, there is a obvious connection there for the people who do there homework and find that connection, but the fact of the matter is its a japanese legend that fits, but not nessisarily whats going on in naruto I dought whoever gets that demon gets the sword automatically, plus he would have had that demon b4 he joined atkuski and I dont think they would have let him do that, they would have killed him and took it

[GameFace]

All the members of Akatsuki ARE super strong! that I am sure of!

Whit that said, I belive that the members are taken in on a combination of references, IQ, figting skills and power. something like what Itachi did is what would give them good references.... he also said that he did it to test what he is capable of, maybe he did to check if he had what it takes to become Akatsuki? who knows, we all know too litle about Akatsuki too do anything more than speculate....

[Nepenthe]

You guys are all forgetting that Sasori said " I havent had to use myself since i was accepted into Akatsuki."

That means A. Sasori had to fight another member

or B. He had to show them what he was cpable of.

The latter is intertwined with the former because in the Narutoverse the best way to show what someone is capable of is to fight.

As for Tobi, He could have fought a battle against maybe deidara or Sasori, lost and got put on a waiting list.

[y.o.]

Not neccisarily, you will get that exsample turned on you!! This is why, sasori was know previously for his 100 puppet jutsu that he used to take out an entire town, thats probley when he got looked at to be recruited. Oro was up to be hokage (If he wasnt evil) Thats his resume, Kisame was part of the 7swordsmen of the mist, and most likely the strongest and a missing nin!!

[CRtwenty]

I'm guessing that applicants are probably pitted against one or more other members to test their skills.

[Nepenthe]

Not neccisarily, you will get that exsample turned on you!! This is why, sasori was know previously for his 100 puppet jutsu that he used to take out an entire town, thats probley when he got looked at to be recruited. Oro was up to be hokage (If he wasnt evil) Thats his resume, Kisame was part of the 7swordsmen of the mist, and most likely the strongest and a missing nin!!

But, the 100 puppet Jutsu is not "himself." Maybe the Members of Akatsuki heard about what they did and were interested in them. That doesnt mean, though, that the applicants were chosen on reputation alone. The members of Akatsuki would test any possible members first-hand to measure their strength

[kjrav]

Unless they are trying to implant demons then it would be smart cause thats one less demon you have to find and implant!

[KageNaruto]

actually thats the main argument, unless they specially somehow allowed kisame to join akasuki even though he had a demon i dont think theyd allow him 2 be a member


(wow my avatar and sig are based on anko temari and tenten)

[Volrath]

ok... this is just suggestion (AKA no proof avaliable) and i would appreciate if people doesn't call me an idiot because of it...

First of all Akatsuki
We all know that akatsukis goal is to collect all of the Bijuus, right?
What if that giant statue isn't just for holding the demons? What if it, together with the rings channel the demons powers to different members?
And Kisame and Deidara "Caught" their demons already?
to explain it further each member have one of the rings, wich each corresponds to a "eye" on the statue.
This sounds reasonable to me because if i were to try to gain a bijuus power, i would not wish to seal it inside my own body. Since it could break out and take over (AKA Naruto in fourth-tail mode). This way there would be no risk of the demon doing that since the statue would use the demons chakra to contain them...
This would be one reason why Akatsuki are so serious about not loosing the rings....


As to oro having a demon
I totaly believe it is possible.. the demon might have tried to hide from kyuubi, therefore entwining itself in oros body.... But Kyuubi, not being fooled by such cheap tricks, attacked Konoha in an attempt to kill his hated enemy, Hachimata (sp?)......
When the danger was over ... Hachimata discovered that he could not get loose from oro... and decided to do the best of the situation...


As i previously stated... this is just a theory (mine)... If you do not like it... then so be it... but i like it.... so don't complain about it to me...

Find your own theory... live by it..... And be happy! :lol:

[y.o.]

That was a very good theory up until the point that you said Oro had a bijuu, the reason that makes no sense is b/c he would have used it to save his arms, he would have used when Tsunada was beating the crap out of him, someone would have something by now b/c he would have had it since he was in the village at that time, it would have been said please stop posting those theories about Oro and a bijuu, there not true.

[KageNaruto]

ok theory but naruto in 4tails is still naruto. kyubi didnt take over

[y.o.]

I dont think that was a debate, just that naruto cant distinguish friend or foe, although I highly dought that

[Glorious Ular]

If the decision was up to the leader than the leader would fight him to test his strength. And if if was up to the whole group than they would all fight him.

[imported_Greenlitflag]

What's up with the leader's eyes? I know, no one knows but I wanna know (or is it just me who thinks they look weird).

[zazie the beast]

i dont belive that they have to fight to become a member because i dont belive that any of the members that we've seen so far would let there opponent live if they won

[y.o.]

best argument that Ive heard, I actually a lil jealous cause it was better than mine. Mendouksa

[CRtwenty]

i dont belive that they have to fight to become a member because i dont belive that any of the members that we've seen so far would let there opponent live if they won

Assuming that the person they were testing was good enough, they probably wouldn't get the chance to kill him/her. And an order from the Akatsuki Leader would stop the fight.

[y.o.]

But some of those guys could kill in an instant, Itachi for exsample, Activate Mange, that moon jutsu, walk over to thier fallen body and stab them or throw it b4 they hit the ground

[kjrav]

Then obviously if that person couldnt withstand a mangekyou then he aint strong enough!easy way to narrow down the list! 8) Yo!

[KageNaruto]

...im pretty sure almost every sngle poeple wouldnt recover from it. kakashi even said one time and ur out when they fought itachi

[kjrav]

kakashi wounld make on the list now since he gots the mangekyou!

[KageNaruto]

true, but then hed be too wasted afterward to fight bak anyway

[Glorious Ular]

Just because kakashi has mange doesnt mean he could be accepted into akatisuki!!!! Hes weaker than Itachi.

[KageNaruto]

no duh sherlock. that doesent prove anything, im sure itachi is in the top 5 of the akatsuki, why else would they entrust him getting kyubi.

i dont think kakashi could make it either, but he wouldnt want to try so who cares

[Glorious Ular]

exactly,
Top 5 eh i dunno maybe more like top 4 since we dont know the other members

[y.o.]

Then obviously if that person couldnt withstand a mangekyou then he aint strong enough!easy way to narrow down the list! 8) Yo!


So why you dont think Oro should, or is strong enough to be in atkuski, to be honest unless there blind, there is really no one who can stand up to that unless they know of him and him jutsu thats why nin dont let people live whos seen there jutsu

[Glorious Ular]

Oro was in akatsuki
He just left to gain more power!

[KageNaruto]

no no y.o. was trying to prove the point that krav is wrong, and he did it rather good, causr i though that staement krav said was actually really false.

i dont think anyone can fight after a mangekyu

[kjrav]

Yeah i probaly am wrong! 8) Yo!

[y.o.]

Thats exsactly what I meant, Oro was in atkuski but can be caught in mange just as easy!

[Glorious Ular]

But he wouldnt get in that situation though! Just like Kakashi managed to TRY and avoid the mange, But Oro is much stronger than kakashi and would find a way to diverge the mange.
But also Oro stated that Itachi was stronger than him but im assuming Oro is afraid of the Sharingan which would be another reason for him to want Sasuke.

[KageNaruto]

dont say he will, he might. itachi is extremely smart and is a genius 2 u know

[y.o.]

he can try to avoid it all he wants, doesnt mean he wont get caught, and I really dont believe that itachi is stronger than Oro, I think of it as if Oro knew he had no way to counter mange, or even beat it!! Does that mean the leader of atkuski does, possibly but Oro cant so he's wise enought not to fight he doesnt think he can win

[regina777]

ok... this is just suggestion (AKA no proof avaliable) and i would appreciate if people doesn't call me an idiot because of it...

First of all Akatsuki
We all know that akatsukis goal is to collect all of the Bijuus, right?
What if that giant statue isn't just for holding the demons? What if it, together with the rings channel the demons powers to different members?
And Kisame and Deidara "Caught" their demons already?
to explain it further each member have one of the rings, wich each corresponds to a "eye" on the statue.
This sounds reasonable to me because if i were to try to gain a bijuus power, i would not wish to seal it inside my own body. Since it could break out and take over (AKA Naruto in fourth-tail mode). This way there would be no risk of the demon doing that since the statue would use the demons chakra to contain them...
This would be one reason why Akatsuki are so serious about not loosing the rings....




this is what i call a very intelligent Theory. when i heard the akatsuki leader tell kisame and itachi not to go and fight team gai/kakashi with their real bodies i said to myself- hmm!!! does this look soo similar to Orochimarus technique(copied from the time Oro was with them). BUT what was at the back of my head about them giving 30% of their chakra to the sacrificed bodies while been far away from them made me even wonder more- is this how the chakra/spirit of bijuu they are stealing is going to be used- a jutsu that allows for chakra channelling into the akatsuki members.

it is a theory- it seems reasonable- i wouldnt be surprised if it really happens that way in the manga.

[steve]

Ah I give props to that theory for sure. It seems its impossible to control a demon when they are not sealed within a human. Even then, you cannot really control it(i.e naruto, gaara). I think eventually we will be seeing battles between demon chakras. Probably get to see kyuubi v. others, should be interesting to watch...

[y.o.]

If its just thier chakra's I dont think it will be that interesting, but thier powers will be a different story, but going w/ that theory that would prove kisame doesnt have the 3 tails inside him, if he did he wouldnt need the ring to channel anything

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

why does Aktsuki want the demons for? for thier chakra so it's pretty simple you capture a dmeon and it's chakra is yours to use why wouldn't they seal the demon in themselves?they want to use the bujuu's chakra for thier self ciyo kinda explained it even tho she doesn't know what thier up to i'd say she's pretty close.the only ppl i would say can have a dmeon in them is kisame and oro i sya oro now because CR posted a more updated version of the legend and dam oro really fits the description.kisame looked the way he does before he even joined akatsuki.so maybe he stumbled across thier name and just asked to join or w/e.

[y.o.]

Mendouksa, I really dont feel like explainig this one again!! Just have this to say, If kisame and or Oro had bijuu it would have been said already, they didnt keep it a secret garra had one and they wouldnt keep this a secret either thats just not smart

Not to mention a bijuu is contained in a body, causeed its sealed in that container right?? If so that would mean when Oro transfers his mind, sprite, soul whatever hes leaveing the bijuu hes transfered how many times he cant still have it

[Kazashi The Dragon]

could it be possible for a bijuu to completly merge with the container?

[kjrav]

well mabey using a jutsu like the one the 4th used its possible to fuse souls?
And why do you insist that every thing must have been said to even speculate on it ? if everyone did that there would be no questions b/c no one would speculate on the unsaid topics the only thing left would be polls and questions on things already said which is kinda boring.and if kishimoto said everything there would be any thing for fans to wonder about hence no plot twist which would lower sales its somthing all volume writers do it keeps the fans hooked and comin back.

[KageNaruto]

could it be possible for a bijuu to completly merge with the container?

it would kill the container due to the insane chakra.

by the way y.o. i really hate "if it hasnt been syayed it isnt true" theory.

it was never stated that naruto has a tongue, but he does have one.

[y.o.]

Well, It hasnt been said but Ive seen it, I know its there and its true, characters that are in tha story who people keep insisting on having bijuu cause of thier apperence or jutsus they use just isnt smart

You can speculate all you want but when you have overwelming evidence that says otherwise and all you can do is speculate w/ no concrete evidence then let it go

And just for the record kage, I could careless what you like, u dont like sakura even w/ all her improvements and I do, apparently we dont like the same thing

[kjrav]

And what overwhelming evidence is there that states these people have no bijju other than it wasnt saind which is only your belief in absolute knowledge over relative knowledge. 8) Yo!

[KageNaruto]

yes y.o. theres no proof there is one, but theres no proof there isnt one.

so it can be either way thats why your comment isnt to my liking

[y.o.]

theres more proof that there isnt one than there is

[WalkingFish]

OK if th akatsuki mix all of the demons into one person that person would surely die or even all of the demons would fight to get the body and that person would have like split personalitioes

[Ichee]

could it be possible for a bijuu to completly merge with the container? Well NAruto's Bijuu the nine tails chakra is mixing with his so I don't think that isn't a possibility

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

but thats the way the fourth made the seal.you guys ideas are just to crazy

[KageNaruto]

but thats the way the fourth made the seal.you guys ideas are just to crazy

the 4th didnt make the seal to merge kyubi and naruto. the cracks in the seal are causing that.

and we barely know anything about the sealing method and still little about the seal, so random guesses are totally ok

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

go watch the episode when naruto is trying to walk on water with jiraiya he said it himself.and because of oro's seal messeing up his chakra he wasn't able to walk on water easy until jiraiya removed it

[KageNaruto]

go watch the episode when naruto is trying to walk on water with jiraiya he said it himself.and because of oro's seal messeing up his chakra he wasn't able to walk on water easy until jiraiya removed it

he says it makes the chakra of the ninetails leak out and be used as his own. however merging with kyubi would cause anruto to turn into half of a giant fox lol, im pretty sure its not set up for that

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

naruto's chakra is constantly mixing with the kyuuubis.when oro put that seal on his stmache it messed up the balance and he stopped naruto form using the kyuubi's chakra.after jiraiya took it off naruto had acces to it again.and then jiraiya said something about the fourth put the kyuubi inside of him for reason so he could use it's power to protec the village and thats why naruto can use the kyuubi's power and why their chakra mixes

[KageNaruto]

but thats not merging with kyubi though

[y.o.]

I dont see a demon merging w/ a human, I dont see tha benifit for tha demon, although the human would get a hell of a boost in power, basically Im saying that if they merge the demon would completely envelope the human as if he isnt there

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

i didn't say they would merge but naruto's seal is set up that the jyuubi's chakra mixes with his own making him stronger and gives him acces to use it

[y.o.]

I deffinetly agree w/ that, naruto chakra itself just seems to be getting more powerful, like jariya said to naruto he need to focus on power since he has a plentiful supply of strong chakra

[kjrav]

Their chakra doesnt mix, it's sill two seperate chackra.

[gerbster11]

Yeah that Kisame guy is pretty strong, I hope he gets into a real fight with Gai later and doesnt send a clone. As for Akatsuki, I think they want all the demons Chakra to either bring that statue alive and control it or they either want each member of Akatsuki to gain a demon spirit inside so they can become even stronger.

[Ichee]

Kisame isn't pretty strong....

He is STRONG.

You can say that Kisame looks at Gai as a rival because of that kick Gai gave him

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

then gai would die and i wold hate to see that.and yes thier 2 different chakras but the kyuubi has an unlimited amount and his chakra mixes with naruto's own makig naruto stroner so the kyuubi's chakra will keep on mixing with naruto making him the strongest ninja that has ever lived

[gerbster11]

What makes Kisame even stronger is that sword he has and how he can only use it, AND it absorbs chakra like nothing. i wonder how you can defeat that?? He's cool akatsuki member. I think him and Gai are destined to fight, because of their first confrontation near Konoha.

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

oaky..and we u no eveidence that his sword is giving hi power or why he has so much chakra on a similair level like naruto.imo i think it might be because he has a demon.

[KageNaruto]

then gai would die and i wold hate to see that.and yes thier 2 different chakras but the kyuubi has an unlimited amount and his chakra mixes with naruto's own makig naruto stroner so the kyuubi's chakra will keep on mixing with naruto making him the strongest ninja that has ever lived

i wouldnt say unlimited amount. i would say a super large amount thats hard to comprehend, but not unlimited

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

in the legend he fought the 8 tails dmeon for years like a century or osme sh8 like that but it was very long

[Ichee]

Its stated that the Kyubbi had an unlimited supply of Chakra

[y.o.]

What makes Kisame even stronger is that sword he has and how he can only use it, AND it absorbs chakra like nothing. i wonder how you can defeat that??

By using something that doesnt use chakra, Taijutsu!! But kisame still seems to have tha advantage there too cause of that super human strenth and sword. I dont know how good his taijutsu is but Im pretty sure hes not on gais level, but he almost completely takes ninjutsu away from his opponets which is real nice!!

[gerbster11]

That is what I am saying, y.o., this is going to be a great fight because of the match up between Gai and Kisame, at leat in my opinion because if you use taijutsu you dont need to worry about flashy techniques and getting your chakra taking away by kisame's sword( i think its called sandame).

and plus you know from earlier confrontations that kisame wants this fight, so this is what i am waiting to see..

boo-ya

[y.o.]

Tha sword is called samihada! I really like Kisame even though I havent seen him or heard all about him that much, hes already one of my favorite characters

[kjrav]

Kisame and Zazuba were 2 of the Seven Swordsman of the Mist right so do you think we gonna see the other 5.

[y.o.]

No, in the filler we supposetly seen one but he wasnt interesting at all, I didnt like it! The only time we might see the rest of them is in fillers but it would discredit them, so I rather not see it unless its in the manga

[zazie the beast]

Kisame and Zazuba were 2 of the Seven Swordsman of the Mist right so do you think we gonna see the other 5.

i was wondering that to i even made this but for got to post it

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b12/thumpg/2.jpg

[CRtwenty]

Well we know Raiga was another... filler or not, he's still one of the seven.

[KageNaruto]

he was too weak to ever be one of the 7, he was not part of the group

[kjrav]

Who's Raiga?

[KageNaruto]

you dont wanna know, just a filler dude who was weak and they said he wa sone of the 7

[Hellchild915]

Who's Raiga?

He was the one that was able to use lighting and had the little kid on his back

[y.o.]

How was Raiga one of the 7 swordsmen of the mist, and use no suiton jutsus?? 7 swordsmen of the MIST, I would have thought he was from the villiage of cloud, were they use lighting jutsu!!

[XxXItachiXxX]

The Akatsuki has proven to be a threat to all major countries. With the likes of deidara, itachi, kisame and such, they have the power to conquer almost anything in Naruto. What can they conquer?

Konoha?
Sand?
Orochimaru?

I think if all 9 of the Akatsuki members charge into anywhere the place would be flat in a second. Just my opinion since we saw deidara and sasori capture Gaara who is a kazekage. They couldve probably tooken down the whole Sand Country with Akahigi:Hyaki No Soen. Of course, we know Konoha is probably stronger than Sand with Neji,Kakashi, jiraiya,tsunade,naruto and lots of other genius prospects but can they really defend against the Akatsuki? and why do the Akatsuki attack in pairs? why not trips? that would be almost unbeatable.

[imported_Aizen-diacho]

iif the whole of akatsuki rush a village they may be able to destroy it.but if you tink about it.4 average jounin can take 1 akatsuki member,well it kinda depends.if they go all out proably 2 or three will die at best

[DonEmu]

its easier to attack than to defend...if they were to suprise attack konoha...maybe and thats a slight maybe...u forget konoha have jiraiya,tsunade...the elders who i might add where part of the 3rds team...and then there are the anbu, the entire hyuuga clan, kakashi and the other jounins...

[jounin101]

basically everyone under chunin will be wiped out. The only sensei who can handle themselves are kakashi and Gai. There are other jounin who aint sensei who could hold their own, like hiashi and InoShikaCho V1, but if deidara drops his giant bomb like he wanted to do to the sand village, konoha is through.
It would be relatively easier to do that, but they want the jinchuuriki, so its highly unlikely to happen.

[DonEmu]

well gamabunta and tsunade slugs could take care of the bombs...so can kakashi...

[Davis]

wait, why would they care about orochi?
he was so stupid,THEy FIRED HIM!

also there are 13 akatsuki

[jounin101]

It took sand from all around the sand village to stop the giant bomb, gama and a snail will be blown away.
13 akatsuki? i thought it was 9, where did you count 13 on the manga pics?

[Shino18]

how could kakashi take care of the bomb and also you think about it before itachi was in akatsuki he had taken down the number #1 clan in konoha so if they did a sneak attack they could kill a lot

[DonEmu]

there are 9...only those with the ring can call themselves akastuki...those without are nuthin but wanabes or rejects...

[Davis]

i tought der wuz 15 T_-

[jounin101]

are you just guessing numbers?

Shino, that is one hell of a good point that i didnt think of. that should give everyone perspective of how strong akatsuki is. if 1 can take down the #1 clan. then all of them could easily wipe out 99% of konoha in hours.

[miscalculatex]

I think you guys underestimate the villiages.. Yes, the akatsuki members are VERY strong, but think about it. This isn't dragonball z. Just being stronger doesn't mean you'll win a fight in the Narutoverse. All the ninjas in say, Konoha could likely repel or stop the (nine?) akatsuki attacking at once. There would undoubtably be casualties, but everyone in the villiage is willing to die to protect that. Don't forget Konoha has two sannin hanging around it.

[KageNaruto]

wait, why would they care about orochi?
he was so stupid,THEy FIRED HIM!

also there are 13 akatsuki

please learn. theres 9.

itachi, kisame, diedara(replaced oro), tobi(replaced sasori), hidan, kazuku, zetsu, blue-hair person, leader

[RandomGuy]

They work in pairs because they are most likely too powerful to travel in big groups. Who would be the leader? I doubt anyone of their cailber are willing to take orders from someone whos not the designated "leader" of the group (aka founder/leader of Akatsuki). Two can work together, but any more than that, one person has to take charge and i doubt the non leaders would be willing to take orders from each other (cept Kisame seems willing enough to follow Itachis commands). Also, their goal is to gain the Jinchuurikis, not to level entire villages just to find out their Jinchuuriki was one of the many that were slaughtered. They gotta work covertly to attain their goals, theyre ninjas :P

If all 9 attacked Konoha, eh...Im guessing they would be forced to retreat. Sand would probably come to help and if everyone associated with Konoha defended, I dont think they would win by a long shot. Jiraiya and Tsunade already = 2 imo. Kakashi might = almost 1, and together with Gai definitely. Naruto with 3 tails Kyuubi would probably = 1, maybe Yamato would have to keep him controlled. Thats already almost half of the Akatsuki meeting their match. I dont think even all 9 of the Akatsuki would break the Leaf, especially if Sand intervenes.

[jounin101]

it depends on if its an ambush or face to face. if its an ambush, akatsuki owns konoha. If its face to face, then i still think akatsuki will win with maybe 3 casualties. Kisami's chakra is naruto-ish and he uses his abilities smarter than naruto does. Itachi...enough said. Deidara aint necessarily strong, but his bombs do extreme damage. we havent even seen the others yet. konoha was broken down by nameless sound and sand nin, and oro alone killed the kage. i think sarutobi is better than tsunade.
And sand and konoha are 2 days away from eachother. and their in chaos cause garra is shukaku-less now. i doubt they'll get there in time.

[Azure Wrath]

i think akatsuki could basically do anything, if all 9 concentrated an attack on any country they could own, they might suffer some casualties, but in the end, they'd own anything. One akatsuki beat the kazakage, so imagine what nine could do... scary

[zoldic777]

hmm,true,Strange how they got that power...and WTF is kisame xD a fish lmffao

lolz,They can get konoha under their control but dunno why they didn't do that yet =/

off for now

[Azure Wrath]

think they wan't even more power, before they go for global domination, maybe to prove their power or to reduse casualties.

If they have all BIJUU*(spelling?!?!) then they will seem undefeatable, which will slaughter the morale of anyone who goes up against them, as opposed to them just fighting without Bijuu*, suffering a few casualties then people still have some hope.

*edited by Masah

[Shino18]

when you think about it this way it makes you wander what there final goal is

[Missing-Nin]

i think they might try and make a super bijuu and take over everything! that would be cool!

[imported_partlink1]

I think if akatsuki attacks any place except konoha the place will fall quickly, but if they attack konoha their likely to suffer major casulties, because odds are gai would be forced to go 8 gates and kakashi uses magnekyo while tsunade jiraya neji, shikamaru, well all the rookie nine fight akatsuki, and pretty much kill them

[DonEmu]

the rookies arent the only ninja in konoha, i doubt neji has surpassed hinata's dad...and all the rookies have parents who are capable fighters...an invasion of konoha at their current state is useless unless they have a real army of shinobi and they lead..not if only 9 of them invade

[RandomGuy]

Seeing how losing someone like Sasori made em have to take that loser Tobi, I doubt theyd want to take unnecessary casualties anyway :P.

Actually, Tobis probably good since they actually let him in, but i get the feeling hes the worst outta all of em.

[DonEmu]

the fact that he wasnt an original member implies sasori and the rest are stronger..or he lacks wats they needed at the time but is the best for the position now..

[XxXItachiXxX]

Sasori must be pretty crappy since deidara took out Gaara and sasori got taken out by sakura and a grandma. my guess is that sasori was the weakest.

[DonEmu]

actually deidara said sasori was the stronger of the pair...oh and if there were no civilians ( ninjas) in the way...deidara wouldnt have beaten gaara...

[RandomGuy]

Sasori must be pretty crappy since deidara took out Gaara and sasori got taken out by sakura and a grandma. my guess is that sasori was the weakest.
Youre freaking kidding me...right?

Sasori was insanely strong. If he didn't let Kankurou live out of cruelty Sakura wouldnta had an antidote to his poison and they both woulda died. Grandma was hella strong too, probably the best puppeteer in Suna second to Sasori. Sakura is the apprentice to Godaime Hokage, former Sannin. Those two together woulda lost easily to Sasori except for that fluke. And youre saying that Sasori must be pretty crappy?

Oh and Im willing to bet that Sasori coulda taken out Orochimaru 1v1 too.

[y.o.]

Seeing how losing someone like Sasori made em have to take that loser Tobi, I doubt theyd want to take unnecessary casualties anyway :P.

Actually, Tobis probably good since they actually let him in, but i get the feeling hes the worst outta all of em.

I think tobi has insanely strong jutsu, but hes kinda dumb, and that evens him out, hes kinda like the extreme opposite of shika!! Really dumb, but jutsu compensate cause of there raw power or ability plus hes not likable either!

[imported_Greenlitflag]

Sasori must be pretty crappy since deidara took out Gaara and sasori got taken out by sakura and a grandma. my guess is that sasori was the weakest.
Youre freaking kidding me...right?

Sasori was insanely strong. If he didn't let Kankurou live out of cruelty Sakura wouldnta had an antidote to his poison and they both woulda died. Grandma was hella strong too, probably the best puppeteer in Suna second to Sasori. Sakura is the apprentice to Godaime Hokage, former Sannin. Those two together woulda lost easily to Sasori except for that fluke. And youre saying that Sasori must be pretty crappy?

Oh and Im willing to bet that Sasori coulda taken out Orochimaru 1v1 too.

Yeah, Sasori was a beast. They had to make such a specific setting and oppenent just to kill him off, otherwise it would seems highly unlikely (and even still, he basicly killed himself). Kinda like kimimaru.

[KageNaruto]

Sasori must be pretty crappy since deidara took out Gaara and sasori got taken out by sakura and a grandma. my guess is that sasori was the weakest.
Youre freaking kidding me...right?

Sasori was insanely strong. If he didn't let Kankurou live out of cruelty Sakura wouldnta had an antidote to his poison and they both woulda died. Grandma was hella strong too, probably the best puppeteer in Suna second to Sasori. Sakura is the apprentice to Godaime Hokage, former Sannin. Those two together woulda lost easily to Sasori except for that fluke. And youre saying that Sasori must be pretty crappy?

Oh and Im willing to bet that Sasori coulda taken out Orochimaru 1v1 too.

Yeah, Sasori was a beast. They had to make such a specific setting and oppenent just to kill him off, otherwise it would seems highly unlikely (and even still, he basicly killed himself). Kinda like kimimaru.

only thing he sucked at was emotions. i mean cmon, itachi killed his clan, and saosri couldnt even kill his parent puppets.

akatsuki means you left everything behind, hence the slash on the head protector, and sasori clearly didnt.

i also hate it when villians leave somebody instead of killing them on the spot. if they had an IQ above 50 they would know its the stupidest thing they could possible do.

Of course I'm also starting to dislike hidan now, he thinks he can take team asuma on his own, so hes wasting time, and might end up screwing over their objective. stupidest thing you do when you have a orginization of so little memebers, and when youre so close to the goal

[Shino18]

^^yea hidan is starting to get pretty gay and tobi reminds me of naruto strong but an idiot

[HarlemDuelists]

hidan shall be killed by shikamaru!! shikamaru like always will quickly find out his weakness.. (which prolly is .. hidan is vulnerable while doing this gay ritual) and will prolly tell or hold of kakuza while those 2 chuunin guys take him out .. i just cant wait til the nex chapters come out!

[imported_Greenlitflag]

Sasori must be pretty crappy since deidara took out Gaara and sasori got taken out by sakura and a grandma. my guess is that sasori was the weakest.
Youre freaking kidding me...right?

Sasori was insanely strong. If he didn't let Kankurou live out of cruelty Sakura wouldnta had an antidote to his poison and they both woulda died. Grandma was hella strong too, probably the best puppeteer in Suna second to Sasori. Sakura is the apprentice to Godaime Hokage, former Sannin. Those two together woulda lost easily to Sasori except for that fluke. And youre saying that Sasori must be pretty crappy?

Oh and Im willing to bet that Sasori coulda taken out Orochimaru 1v1 too.

Yeah, Sasori was a beast. They had to make such a specific setting and oppenent just to kill him off, otherwise it would seems highly unlikely (and even still, he basicly killed himself). Kinda like kimimaru.

only thing he sucked at was emotions. i mean cmon, itachi killed his clan, and saosri couldnt even kill his parent puppets.

akatsuki means you left everything behind, hence the slash on the head protector, and sasori clearly didnt.

i also hate it when villians leave somebody instead of killing them on the spot. if they had an IQ above 50 they would know its the stupidest thing they could possible do.

Of course I'm also starting to dislike hidan now, he thinks he can take team asuma on his own, so hes wasting time, and might end up screwing over their objective. stupidest thing you do when you have a orginization of so little memebers, and when youre so close to the goal

Basicly, like I said, they had to come up with a very specifc oppenent and cirmuntances to kill him off. Had it been anyone else, he would've beasted them. I'm not even sure if Oro could bring himself to kill the other sannin. When he accidentally stabs tsunade he looks upset and says "I didn't mean for you to get involved." (or something to that effect.) This seems to suggest that even a heartlesss bastard like Oro still puts off killing certain people he has a connection with.

[Nadeem99]

When he accidentally stabs tsunade he looks upset and says "I didn't mean for you to get involved." (or something to that effect.) This seems to suggest that even a heartlesss bastard like Oro still puts off killing certain people he has a connection with.

he said it becayuse he needed her to heal his arms. there is not anything like connection. if connection matters to Oro he would have not killed Sarutobi, his sensi

[kakashicopyninja]

but if you think about it no1 would have gessed itachi would kill his own clan so he did it on family at a time where really only the man and maybe the son could fight him

[.Sage.]

Well since Naruto is a show where almost all the time Good beats Evil answers are limited...But seeing as how Konoha has some very experienced people...I think it will either be close or in Konoha`s favor....

[Raki]

Even if they wanted to, they wouldn't want the leader to reveal his face untill the time is right, and after all they only want the jinchuurikis. plus they wouldn't send all akatuski members straight out because all villages are uncertain of there numbers and might overestimate them

[XxXItachiXxX]

Think about it, immense chakra, fishlike apprearance? seems to fit. This may also allow for a easy pass into joining the Akatsuki as he is no lute-player in jutsus either.

[jounin101]

go to hell-_-
the 3 tails was supposedly a shark who had a fish samehada attached to him, 3 tails is the only water bijuu and it was discovered AFTER we learned about kisame, he doesnt possess 3 tails, he is just a freak with shark like appearances like oro is a freak with snakelike appearances. his sword samehada is kishi's way of bending the legend of the bijuu to fit his storyline. think b4 you make up threads like this.

[Kholdstare]

poor parents ! what a shock it would have been when kisame was born

[Spriggan430]

haha that sure is the truth there... i would probably have jsut thrown him in the ocean n yelled g/l you scaley bastard

[B0ukun]

Bah, they bought him at petsmart.

[Narusukashi]

Why would someone with a Jinchuuriki, something Akatsuki is after, join the Akatsuki? Even if he had the Jincuuriki, it would be extracted, and he would be killed.

[B0ukun]

There isn't really a reason to argue the point. We all know he's not a jinchuriki. He's just a distant relative to Orochimaru.

[anantha92]

maybe he was another experiment like that girl in the filler episodes. And no he dosent bear any bijuu's.

[zoldic777]

lol and who said only human beings live in the naruto world ._.a

[B0ukun]

well, as of now there hasn't been a dog playing a captain in the navy like DBZ. That really freaked me out. But nothing has stated that. The only thing that can be looked at for the idea of the type of universe is the fact that science is a rather strong factor in the Narutoverse. until the giant frogs come in. Even the idea of the types of jutsu are based on Chi and Martial arts science. So it's pretty grounded. Until the giant frogs come it.

[Hollister]

he is the most weakest and worthless akutsaki, they ran out of ideas so they just decided to make a member a zabatsu ripoff. the only thing special about him, are the few comments made by some of the the characters saying how he has alot of chakra because that special sword saves it up for him. we already seem him fight and he is a wuss, nothing cool or special like hidan or kayuza

[KageNaruto]

he is the most weakest and worthless akutsaki, they ran out of ideas so they just decided to make a member a zabatsu ripoff. the only thing special about him, are the few comments made by some of the the characters saying how he has alot of chakra because that special sword saves it up for him. we already seem him fight and he is a wuss, nothing cool or special like hidan or kayuza

1. its kakuzu and hidan

2. hidan so far was the worst member

3. kisames 30% clone did phenominal to itachi's. if kisame is a weakling itachi is genin strength

[XxXItachiXxX]

1. its kakuzu and hidan

2. hidan so far was the worst member

3. kisames 30% clone did phenominal to itachi's. if kisame is a weakling itachi is genin strength

i strongly agree.. but still, they chose to replace hidan for orochimaru, when tobi has tried to join for a long time. so maybe hidan and tobi both are worst? Kisame is definitely a powerhouse.

[Spriggan430]

I still think that tobi has something to show and is as deidara said a kid as he stated.. he was playing around it looked like... I want to see him fight then we can judge if he is as weak as hidan or not

[B0ukun]

Honestly I think both of the Kisame and Itachi fights are about even, Kisame's was just more exciting and Itachi's more sinister and a mental game. While Kisame was trying to kill Gai, Itachi was trying to seduce Naruto into coming with him/put him out so he could take him away.

itachi had Naruto in a genjutsu while fighting Kakashi in close combat. His attention was more on getting the Kyuubi then fighting and still Kakashi couldn't do it by himself.

[XxXItachiXxX]

Neji didnt do much in the Kisame fight. How did he become Jounin lol.

[B0ukun]

Neji and probably Hyuuga in general are scouts and espionage agents. They can see though walls, around corners and kill in the most easiest ways possible. He probably excells in those area's. Also he did get the team out of the water prisons.

[Spriggan430]

yes... i think hyuuga's have a hard time against genious opponents that use more mid-long range attack's unless they find a way to get in close b/c they use mostly taijutsu so... his vacuum palm was cool though... woah i dont remember neji being a jounin (guess i should go re-read gosh)

[XxXItachiXxX]

Neji and probably Hyuuga in general are scouts and espionage agents. They can see though walls, around corners and kill in the most easiest ways possible. He probably excells in those area's. Also he did get the team out of the water prisons.

Hyuuga's arent scouts where did u pull this from.

[B0ukun]

Questions//
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Do you pay attention to anything other than the pictures?

What's the best use for being able to see over two miles and in 359 degree's?

What the hell do Neji and Hinata usually do when they are on a mission?

What is a ninja's biggest thing ninja are hired for?

Answers// highlight to find.
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No

Look ahead to see whats going on, find hard to locate things.

Look ahead to see whats going on, find hard to locate things.

Spying/Espionage

[Ichee]

Fuck the hyuuggas. They don't really have anything to do with this conversation besides Neji.

[B0ukun]

You and I both know this, but there's a guy running around acting like you but with half the brain. He asked what makes the Hyuuga's suited to be scouts. I told him.

[XxXItachiXxX]

ROFL Hyuuga's are a clan based on Taijutsu, not fucking scouting.

[B0ukun]

ROFL Hyuuga's are a clan based on Taijutsu, not fucking scouting.

Then why can they see over a hundred yards, What good is that in a close combat fight? The ability to see through objects and over great distances doesn't matter if your opponent is 3 inches in front of you. Most close combat fights take place within arms length.

See, kagenaruto was right, you spend so much time yelling and cursing that you can't win an argument to save your life.

[KageNaruto]

seriously itachi, looking underneath the underneath (was that the damn phrase? i cant remember!) doesent just apply in just naruto. it should apply to people reading naruto.

when you agree with my points i almost feel embarresed and want to slap myself on the forehead.

hyugas can make excellent scouts. however they dont exaclty have the arsenal of long range jutsu from what ive seen. so either someone else in a scouting group can have one or the hyugas just sneak up on the ninja. imo, throwing a smoke bomb then killing them with jyuken works perfectly since they can see through the smoke

yes most hyugas probably arent scouts, but they could easily make excellent scouts

[B0ukun]

They make as good as scouts as Ino's clan make great espionage agents. And with Naruto characaters starting to lean more towards mid and long range attacks it's starting to seem that their skill is in line with protection of what ever information they gain. Scouting and/or assasinations are what their skills best suit. That was my point then and now.

[mandelak]

yeah lke naruto if he was smart he's make a good spy since he can make the kage bunshin to follow or go check out an area b4 going so he doesnt get attacked if caught, u kno wat i mean wat kakashi said to him

[B0ukun]

yeah, true. I mean if you look at their techs, the akamechi clan seems to be the type of ninja you would send to the front line of a battle. His abilities make it easy to take out numerous troops in one swipe. He would suck at Assasinations though since his skill isn't the sneaky type. a 50ft hand sticks out.

Now Naruto seems to be a ninja with no specific skill and therefore could opperate on a case by case basis.

Shika is a defensive character. He can stall groups of enemies while a plan is executed. He fits the role of strategist and it may run in the family (Not the genius thing though).

and this has nothing to do with akatsuki, lets get back to the akatsuki. Though there are a million threads on them that seem to be about the same thing. I guess this thread may need to be locked or moved soon.

[Spriggan430]

lol.... well, naruto woudl make a good scout of he was smart.. but the simple fact is he isnt that smart atm he is kinda hot headed... he isnt stupid he just doesn't think things all the way through... but as for neji... their main abilities... taijutsu that affects the flow of chakra... and byakugan which can see the chakra points nad allows like 359 degress of vision far beyond that of normal eyesight.... making him very good for scouting

[KageNaruto]

lol.... well, naruto woudl make a good scout of he was smart.. but the simple fact is he isnt that smart atm he is kinda hot headed... he isnt stupid he just doesn't think things all the way through... but as for neji... their main abilities... taijutsu that affects the flow of chakra... and byakugan which can see the chakra points nad allows like 359 degress of vision far beyond that of normal eyesight.... making him very good for scouting

imo, not that he isnt smart, hes hasty, hates waiting, would hate having to scout for a long time lol.

its more like if he had a super long attention span and if he was more quiet and sneaky would make a good scout.

but seriously anyone can do a kage bunshin (well they should if they are jounin)

[mandelak]

yeah but didnt kakashi say only ppl with good stamina can hold it off for long enough. i think it was soething like that

[Spriggan430]

Ye.... I hope naruto learns the shadow clone itachi does wehre he can make it explode or w/e...That would be cool... 1000 clones jumping at you that blow up!!!!!! can you say scary as deidara's clay?... yes kakashi did say something like that.. and also to be able to make as many as he does

[KageNaruto]

yeah but didnt kakashi say only ppl with good stamina can hold it off for long enough. i think it was soething like that

but to spy you only need a few, sometimes just 1. any nin with an average chakra amount can have enough to spy effectively