View Full Version : kledieoscope most powerful?
leongtay
11-11-2005, 02:15 PM
do u all think the sharingan kledioscope eyes is the most powerful bloodline and skill in the entire series of Naruto? cos, if i am not wrong the skill is able to send someone to another dimension right?.. and from there the user could make the person suffer for as long as he wants to...wad could possibly be a few seconds could last for 72 hours for the person.
CRtwenty
11-11-2005, 02:23 PM
It's powerful, but I dunno if I would call it the MOST powerful technique. It has some pretty severe disadvantages and reprecusions for using it.
Xx[N]arutoxX
11-11-2005, 02:42 PM
Are sharingan kledioscope eyes the ones that Kakashi used when they were trying to save Gaara? And what can you do with it?
CRtwenty
11-11-2005, 02:42 PM
Kaleidoscope eye = Mangekyou Sharingan.
Xx[N]arutoxX
11-11-2005, 02:49 PM
Ah, Kakashi used it didn't he? But how come his eyes looked different from Itachi's way back when they came to Konoha in search of Naruto.
regina777
11-11-2005, 07:02 PM
nobody has a definate answer to that yet- the best and most probable reason may be that for each user the mangekyou sharingan can have a different shape and mastered for different purposes.or probably b'cos Kakashi is not an uchiha or something else Kishimoto hasnt provided yet.
it certainly is powerful- itachi showed he could transport a person's mind to an alternative space and do whatever he wants with the person and the time and space of that dimension. and dont forget what Kakashi did to Deidara. yet in both men, especially Kakashi(probably b'cos he isnt an Uchiha) they had to find rest for their bodies. it takes a huge toll on the body of the person who uses it. what i am saying is depending on the ninja one is facing say Jiraiya if it fails you the user might be doomed for certain defeat
TekIce
11-11-2005, 08:21 PM
i dont know if it the most powerful... but i think its the next level of sharagian... so it unlocks new jutsu... and for each new jutsu the eye looks different. thats y when itachi uses his jutsu it looked different from kakashi... they different jutsu... this is my theory..
DukeAbercrombie
11-12-2005, 12:42 AM
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imported_Aizen-diacho
11-12-2005, 02:01 AM
lets stay on topic here kakashi's M.sharigan is different because he didn't get it the same wa itachi got it and he's not of uchiha blood so his M.sharigan is a improvised version of the real maybe even having different thecniques.
regina777
11-13-2005, 03:29 PM
lets stay on topic here kakashi's M.sharigan is different because he didn't get it the same wa itachi got it and he's not of uchiha blood so his M.sharigan is a improvised version of the real maybe even having different thecniques.
that is certainly a very probable reason. adding to that it could also be that even if an uchiha(sasuke in this case) masters his MS through the usual way(which he chose not to unless he gains another best friend but decides to kill him this time) it could have different properties from Itachi's. the fact is we dont know much about MS properties in different ninjas but at least it is known that though its really powerful its side effects are scorching for the user.
Tha way to achieve the way mange has always seemed strange to me, as Itachi put it,I dont think that it makes much since at all, its seems too easy to achieve that power and by doing it I cant see how it would activate it, they just dont go together, its like takin aspirin for diaerea it wont make you master anything or do anything to your chakra
CRtwenty
11-17-2005, 11:26 PM
Seems too easy to achieve it? You really think killing your best friend is easy? Man, I'd hate to be one of your friends.
imported_Aizen-diacho
11-17-2005, 11:33 PM
lol why would killing your best friend be hard unless you mean emotionlay and some people mayber heartless kinda like sasuke(i said kinda!)and would do what they need to get power.and let this wack thread fall to the deepest of hells.
lol why would killing your best friend be hard unless you mean emotionlay and some people mayber heartless kinda like sasuke(i said kinda!)and would do what they need to get power.and let this wack thread fall to the deepest of hells.
Agreed, and I didnt mean emotionally, I just meant to achieve that power you dont even have to fight him invite him to a sleep over and make sure he never wakes up and now you posses the most powerful doujutsu in the naruto universe, thats what I mean get it
CRtwenty
11-18-2005, 12:16 AM
The emotion part is what makes it hard! You have to murder your best friend in cold blood! Do you have any idea how much of yourself you'd have to give up to do something like that? There is nothing easy about getting the mangekyou sharingan, the emotional sacrifices its wielders have to make are on par with the power it gives.
If you seriously think that killing your best friend is an easy thing to do. Well I don't know what to say.
If you guys think killing your close friends is easy.....well, I'm going to reconsider any possible friendship I was hoping to have with you
I hate to see what you guys would do your mothers O_o
what I'm curious is how Kakashi got his new eye technique.....yeah I can't remember the name but it's the one he uses on Deidra. I'm fairly certain he didn't kill anyone or kick any puppies for that one.
look forget the emotional attachment, like we have seen some people dont have and emotional attachment which would make it very easy, and what I mean once again is there is no mastering anything no great search for the truth that takes years or solving some great mystery, things that usually go w/ achieving great power, think about it like this it can be obtained in a matter of min and your always around your friend he right there, If you dont understand that I dont know what else to say
point taken, but....wouldn't having a close friend mean having close attachment to them? They wouldn't be considered friends if they didn't have emotional bonds. They would just be another random person.
If you guys think killing your close friends is easy.....well, I'm going to reconsider any possible friendship I was hoping to have with you
I hate to see what you guys would do your mothers O_o
what I'm curious is how Kakashi got his new eye technique.....yeah I can't remember the name but it's the one he uses on Deidra. I'm fairly certain he didn't kill anyone or kick any puppies for that one.
Exsactly my point kakashi didnt achieve it like that so thats what I mean when I say Itachi's way was alot easier than kakashi's I garuntee
CRtwenty
11-18-2005, 12:29 AM
yes, it's severing a bond that's taken a long amount of time to build, and has lots of emotional investment in it.
point taken, but....wouldn't having a close friend mean having close attachment to them? They wouldn't be considered friends if they didn't have emotional bonds. They would just be another random person.
w/ normal people yes but as we see Itachi didnt even have a close feeling for his parents let alone an emtionla attachment or even remorse after he killed them
imported_Aizen-diacho
11-18-2005, 12:37 AM
well you could go pysco and just off him.i would kill my bestfriend but i'll have to go to florida.(lol jk)not really unless your weak i could kill my bestfriend.imight hesitae but i can do it trust me.(hey anybody wanna be my friend)XD :twisted: but kakashi got his from training or w/e he certainly didn't kill anybody for it.he found another way which is proably what sasuke is going to do.
CRtwenty
11-18-2005, 12:38 AM
point taken, but....wouldn't having a close friend mean having close attachment to them? They wouldn't be considered friends if they didn't have emotional bonds. They would just be another random person.
w/ normal people yes but as we see Itachi didnt even have a close feeling for his parents let alone an emtionla attachment or even remorse after he killed them
if that'd been the case then he wouldn't have been able to get the Mangekyou Sharingan. The fact that he was able to kill his clan like that shows how much he had to sacrifice in order to obtain it.
according to him he didnt even have to do all that, I just read what I wrote and I was really tired I guess cause I didnt mean to say that at all, but what I meant was he didnt have to kill the entire clan for mange he did it to test it! So think about it emotional attachments meant nothing to him and therefore was easy for him to obtain mange, for HIM!!! Im not saying I could do it, but some for some people it would be easy
MDFreak
11-22-2005, 06:11 AM
Strongest? No. Kimimaru has the strongest limit, I think.
But, as the Mangekyou Sharingan isn't the strongest type of Sharingan, I can't say.
Strongest? No. Kimimaru has the strongest limit, I think.
But, as the Mangekyou Sharingan isn't the strongest type of Sharingan, I can't say.
As of right now it is the strongest, and kimis bones would have melted if he got hit w/ amarutsu, Kimi had the strongest defense of anyone in the mange and was talented but not the strongest bloodline
imported_partlink1
11-22-2005, 10:58 PM
personaly my theory is that
Mangekyou is the actual technique that kills
the other two itachi used are like hallusinations(however you spell that word)
and odds are that his best friend was almost dead and the enemy was going to take him so he killed him
that or he blames himself for obitos death and convinced himself that he actualy killed him
thus the Mangekyou was born on Kakashi
anyone else just think that the Mangekyou is like crack or lsd
thats just a thought
MDFreak
11-23-2005, 09:28 AM
Mangekyou Sharingan causes the victim to suffer 72 hours of torture. In reality, it is only a second, and it is mental torture.
But, like I said, Mangekyou isn't the strongest form of Sharingan,
regina777
11-23-2005, 11:01 AM
come to think of it i can share your view point a little. we have seen itachi use amaterasu, tsukuyomi and Mangekyou Sharingan and it hasnt been clearly shown which of these is the strongest.
personaly my theory is that
Mangekyou is the actual technique that kills
the other two itachi used are like hallusinations(however you spell that word)
and odds are that his best friend was almost dead and the enemy was going to take him so he killed him
that or he blames himself for obitos death and convinced himself that he actualy killed him
thus the Mangekyou was born on Kakashi
anyone else just think that the Mangekyou is like crack or lsd
thats just a thought
How much naruto have you watched, or read to come up w/a statement like that??
And for the record mangekeyo is the lvl of the eye not tha jutsus used w/ ot, and yes their maybe more powerful forms of sharingan (which I dought) but it is clearly the most powerful we've seen so far
CRtwenty
11-23-2005, 04:48 PM
Yes, Mangekyou is the name of the eye itself, not the name of the techniques.
The Techniques seem to involve the manipulation of time and space.
The Techniques we've seen from it are.
Amaterasu - (Goddess of the Sun Technique) Which creates some sort of black fire that destroys anything it touches.
Tsukuyomi - (Goddess of the Moon Technique) A powerful Genjutsu that inflicts hours of pain upon its victims while taking next to no time in reality.
Kakashi's Technique - (It has no name as of yet) Is able to create dimensional rifts, sending the targeted object into another dimension.
thanks for that informative speech that we already knew about
CRtwenty
11-23-2005, 08:50 PM
Not everybody, there seemed to be some misconceptions about it earlier in the thread.
Honestly, the Mangekyou is powerful, but it also seems to have some pretty serious side effects. All of the techniques use a large amount of chakra, and if we take Kakashi's words at face value, they also stress out the eyes, eventually causing the user to go blind.
those are serious side effects, It seems that mange users should only use that eye unless absolutley nessary, which now makes me think that amarutsu, and tyskomi (apologize 4 spelling) were only used to demonstate what mange was capable of, w/o thinkin that it wasnt all that nessisary, like sauske, and kakashi.... just b/c he knows so much more and didnt have to use such a powerful techniques w/ such long term harmful effects
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