[Character] Hyuuga Neji

[Omaki_Roku]

we all know Neji is a self trained Genius, and that he learned all his techniques from scratch. and with that hes became one of the strongest Characters in Naruto at a very early age.

Hes quoted as the Genius of the Hyuga Family with that alone

But do you think if Neji was trained and had a teacher to teach him the full fundimentals Like the Mirage did with Itachi that hed be the nusiance that Itachi turned out to be and surpass his whole clan?


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[-Itachi]

ya cuz didint in one of the chapters forget wat one it showed neji being trained by the lead guy of the hyuga main family, so he probaly showed him some new techniques that only the main family knows.

[hanabi]

ya cuz didint in one of the chapters forget wat one it showed neji being trained by the lead guy of the hyuga main family, so he probaly showed him some new techniques that only the main family knows.
It is true neji was trained by hiashi in the next 3 years,Neji has the potential and the bloodline and become so strong or even stronger than itachi,but after the last fight i don t think that is the perspective of kishimoto-san.

[j3k69]

I think neji will probably do something to get out of that proson anyway. I doubt that he will just be stuck in there while watching gai fight.

[Divinedemon]

seeing as how neji knew so many moves before the 3 years of training began he has probably developed new techniques only specific to his clan but only himself at the moment

[Belatan]

Imagine 1024 divination strikes :P

[Chaoticfury]

i hope he learned something new and just didnt develop his techniques he used already....

[ryukage]

From his fight with Kisame, we can see that Neji has developed new jutsu. Prior to the time jump, Neji was almost entirly focused on close range fighting. However, now he can attack from mid range. Against Kisame he was able to hit him from around 20 feet away.

[Omaki_Roku]

Yeah i seen all that, but what was thinking was, what if neji had a teacher from the start, instead of teaching himself, do you think hed Be one powerful S class fighter such as Kisime and itachi.

I know how good he is now
but what if

Im thinking clearly he would have, hes a natrural and with a teacher back then to teach him the very foundation, ther would be no room for error with neji at all

Hed be clearly the best fighter if that was the case

[CRtwenty]

With his bloodline and innate skill Neji seems to have the potential to become one of the most powerful Naruto Characters. I see him playing a large role in the future.

[-Itachi]

ya i really hope he plays a mjaor role later on hes my second favorite character.

[jus10]

Nah, I think he'd turn out alright.

[shadowmagus]

who doesnt see him playing a large role in the future? he seems to be even playing large role now to some extent. his charachter is much more developed than that of say tentens or ino's.

[Morpheus]

I hope he uses some ninjutsu or genjutsu. He is suppossed to be an all around shinobi, number one rookie just like Sasuke, but I don't see him using genjutsu, kawarimi, shadow clones or anything like that.

[DukeAbercrombie]

...........

[Omaki_Roku]

better yet, if neji learned mass Kage bushin and he did his 64 hits of divinity!!!!!
man
anybody who even tried to step to Neji would be demolished

[0rion]

Kage Bushin + Katon is a waste of chakra imo lol - especially for Neji since he doesn't have unlimited chakra like Naruto does, who could just keep on doing Kage Bushin until he gets bored :p

[seraph1302]

Why does we hv to waste chakra to create kage bunshin since his taijutsu skills is already more than enuf to handle most physical attacks?? Hyuuga neji is like lee a taijutsu specialist other than the taijutsu he is using is unique to his own clan. in addition, i think there wont be anymore larger quantity for his future technique like 256 hit or 512 hits because...in the earlier stage kakashi already explained that the maximum chakra points in a human body is only 300++ ...and by hitting 64 hits its already more than enuf to put anyone down. My guess would be...the new technique neji would use is something more powerful in quality wise and not quantity. i hv seen a new technique in one of naruto games where it is known as "Hakke Hachimon Tonkou" where it hits the 8 main chakra point in a human body..where this 8 chakra points are the same as the 8 points where Lee used to transform himself.

[CRtwenty]

Lee doesn't open Chakra Points, he unblocks barriers in his brain using chakra, that allow him to use higher percentages of his muscles. So if such points did exist, Neji would have to be able to target his opponents brain.

He'd be better off using his already mastered Silent Fist to target other vital organs, like the heart. Like he did fighting Hinata or Kidoumaru.

[Byakuringan]

I beg to differ....
Instead of doing the gentle fist, he should use the 8 pint attack because the gates of dinvinity control the chakra flow to the 256 points or how ever many it is
so if the gates were sealed, no chakra would flow....
quality over quantity according to seraph
p.s. the game is freakin awesome, even more so on the ngc

[Morpheus]

i bet if they taught him, that katon ninjitsu fire breathe that sasake has, Neji would be able learn it.

also, imagine if neji learned how to do kage bushin , narutos shadow replication!

he would be an army of 1000 shooting fire all over the place! :D

I've just imagined a Kage Bunshin Kaiten or a 128 divination strike made by two Neji's. Awesome he he 8)

[regina777]

i bet if they taught him, that katon ninjitsu fire breathe that sasake has, Neji would be able learn it.

also, imagine if neji learned how to do kage bushin , narutos shadow replication!

he would be an army of 1000 shooting fire all over the place! :D

I've just imagined a Kage Bunshin Kaiten or a 128 divination strike made by two Neji's. Awesome he he 8)

that will be a killer jutsu
soo powerful. But during some fights some Jounins dont like using Kage because at times it is basically not worth it. Kage depends on the enemy.
Neji is Genius

[RandomGuy]

i bet if they taught him, that katon ninjitsu fire breathe that sasake has, Neji would be able learn it.

also, imagine if neji learned how to do kage bushin , narutos shadow replication!

he would be an army of 1000 shooting fire all over the place! :D

Too bad Goukakyuu no Jutsu is an Uchiha unique jutsu. The only people who know it are Itachi and Sasuke, and they wouldn't teach Neji.

[regina777]

i bet if they taught him, that katon ninjitsu fire breathe that sasake has, Neji would be able learn it.

also, imagine if neji learned how to do kage bushin , narutos shadow replication!

he would be an army of 1000 shooting fire all over the place! :D

Too bad Goukakyuu no Jutsu is an Uchiha unique jutsu. The only people who know it are Itachi and Sasuke, and they wouldn't teach Neji.

unless i am losing my memory apparently its not only the Uchihas
didnt Sandaime use it when fighting Orochimaru

and certain people have developed their own versions of course not the same Katon - in making fire like Jiraiya with Gamabunta against Oro-manda and i think i also the fuuma clan Arashi do some fire thingy-but it was no Katon just something iimilar

[CRtwenty]

Katon isn't an Uchiha exclusive technique, it's just that their clan used it frequently.

[RandomGuy]

Katon isn't an Uchiha exclusive technique, it's just that their clan used it frequently.

I know Katon isn't. We see a lot of Konoha Ninja using fire abilities. But the one Sasuke has, Goukakyuu, is an Uchiha specific, though I dont think its bloodline. It seems better, or at least bigger, than the other Katons though.

[regina777]

Yeah i seen all that, but what was thinking was, what if neji had a teacher from the start, instead of teaching himself, do you think hed Be one powerful S class fighter such as Kisime and itachi.

I know how good he is now
but what if

Im thinking clearly he would have, hes a natrural and with a teacher back then to teach him the very foundation, ther would be no room for error with neji at all

Hed be clearly the best fighter if that was the case

i am sure u know it took Itachi a long time to reach S class level. Which ninja in the anime or manga reached S class level in his teens. of course Itachi was really strong as a young ninja and might have reached S class early but was it in his teens- Isnt Neji a teen now
it is possible
anyways i think if Neji had had some training from a Hyuuga teacher after his dad died i am sure he would have been stronger than he is now
He might have pulled an Itachi but if he had had a Hyuuga teacher he could have also not hated the head family like he did

[CRtwenty]

Kakashi was probably an S-ranked Ninja by his late teens. I mean he became a Chuunin at age 7 didn't he? And a Jounin only a few years later, when both Rin and Obito were still Genin.

[ChaosTheory]

Rin and Obito were already chuunin, weren't they?


But.. this is a bit off topic. So..

Neji. Should've.. improved.. a hell load.

..yep.

[Mousie]

katon was also used but some regular guy during the destruction of Konoha. when the snakes invaded the village

[Salomaa]

Kakashi was probably an S-ranked Ninja by his late teens. I mean he became a Chuunin at age 7 didn't he? And a Jounin only a few years later, when both Rin and Obito were still Genin.
He became a Jounin at age 12.

[regina777]

that was superb- and right after that he lost Obito - right
i wonder how strong he would have been without the sharingan

Neji was older than when Kakashi became Jounin
But with a teacher from the Hyuuga clan especially Neji would have really blossomed and may be far better than he is now.

[Radeon]

Kakashi became a Jounin before he received the Sharingan..

[regina777]

yup! and that was when he had just been made commander of the obito rin kakashi team. and i dont remember if it was his first mission after been made commander when Obito got crushed and had to give Kakashi his left eye sharingan as a gift for the promotion and also because he was dying. That was also when he displayed Chidori for the first time. wwhat a genius-

[timeforsleeep]

yup! and that was when he had just been made commander of the obito rin kakashi team. and i dont remember if it was his first mission after been made commander when Obito got crushed and had to give Kakashi his left eye sharingan as a gift for the promotion and also because he was dying. That was also when he displayed Chidori for the first time. wwhat a genius-

didn't he use chidori earlier in that mission? But the 4th stopped him and said to him, "that is an incomplete jutsu"

[Uchiha Adrian]

neji owns tbh

[Jofil..kankorou..rocks]

neji's progress is quite awesome i mean if he could use the byakugan fully at its best state, he is a killer

[XxXItachiXxX]

Can anyone give me all of Neji's Jutsus?

[jounin101]

man, u gotta post these questions in tha spam zone, no matter how long the answer is, if there is no real discussion, its spam because there is just 1 right answer.

byakugan(his kekki genki, not really a jutsu)
jyuken(its his style, and the strongest 1 in konoha. but its not a justu, but all of the palm attacks and stuff)

jutsus
kaiten
64 strikes
128 strikes(filler, although it didnt happen during the time skip)
plam vaccum(might not be the exact name, post time skip)

thats basically it, he's just so talented you'd think he does more.

[y.o.]

Basically he has a very limited set of jutsu, hes just got such a strong style it compensates for it!

But then again, most of the main characters besides team 7, only have shown 2 or 3 jutsu!

In the mange, neji has only done 64 strikes, kaiten, and vaccum palm!

In the anime, he has 128 strike were he moves at unbelieveable speed and hinata has some bull shit ass jutsu!

[Uchiha Adrian]

So guys what do you think Neji will do in the near future - u think he can reach the level of naruto and sasuke - that level hes been training with hiashi 2 get 2?

It would seem hes the strongest outta the generation in konoha bar sasuke and naruto seein as hes jounin now as well -

i just wonder wat thoughts u have on him and the future i'd like to see him as a ninja like white fang compared with sannin maybe not quite as strong but on a par with sasuke and naruto just as the white fang was with the sannin.

[10sarg]

i'd say he's probably at there level already. he is no push over! and now he's got rid of his arrogance he is a force to be reckoned with.

[papfles]

unfortunately, some of the other characters have been neglected. I'd love to see what neji can do now, as he must be quite a formidable opponent now. And even the other chuunin (from hinata to kiba) must be able to "amaze" us with a few new tricks.

[BBRS]

I would also love to see Neji! And what new techniques he has! The kaiten and the other techniques that he has just improved are starting to get pretty boring! There must be another hidden power or speciality hidden in the Byakugan and the Hyuuga clan! I would also love to see a fight between a Byakugan and Sharingan (Neji vs. Sasuke), that would end all the threads and arguments here about that! If i could bet money on what technique he has now, it would be maybe imposing an element to his deviation palms technique! Like maybe using a wind element (he looks like an wind element to me! >_<) to strengthen the hits, or possibly achieving a greater ability with his Byakugan, so that it shows more direct connections with the Sharingan, like, using a variation of the sun god technique, and i'm not saying he would use the sun god technique, but rather a technique that resembles it! Like and white fire or something wicked like that!

[anantha92]

Strangely, neiji quitened down in shippuden. He is after all a jounin. I dunno i guess we will ahve to wait and see.

[Narusukashi]

Right now it seems that all other characters are getting the shaft.. either Naruto still has a crap load of chapters left ( 200+ ), or it's just going to end with the other characters being left in the dark. Hopefully when Naruto becomes Hokage and Akatsuki is defeated, Kishi will show the history and background of each character.

[DonEmu]

I wouldnt say neji is as strong as sasuke and naruto ( The Two of them have surpassed kakashi and fight evenly with akatsuki and sannin)...but he is a jounin, so we know for a fact that he knows atleast two elements( Knowing two elements is a requirement to make jounin said by kakashi), we know he has a good bloodline which he is great at, we know he is capable of learning the secret techniques of his bloodline.

Note: Though i say he isnt stronger than naruto and sasuke, that doesnt mean he cant beat them, strength is relative...

[Collateral]

isnt he special jounin? that means he dont have two elements for sure

[DonEmu]

He isnt special jounin, he is jounin, i dont remember them ever mentioned special...

[hotnikkelz]

Just because a character doesn't get much 'air time' doesn't mean he's weaker than naruto or sasuke. Imo he's always been one of the best...easily. A true genius who won't really lose to anyone. Shikamaru took an Akatsuki member by himself as well and left unscathed. Naruto took on a half dead one

[DonEmu]

Are u telling me you think every single member of naruto's generation to be super genius kill everyone...

Shika only killed Hidan cause
A. He is an intellectual genius
B. He knew Hidan's jutsu
C. He had the back up to have his plan work
D. He had the advantage of terrain

In a one on one battle, where Hidan just happens to meet Shika, Hidan would have won

If u forget, Kisame could and would have killed Neji aswell as the rest of the team if Gai wasnt around...They were all almost useless...

No matter how strong neji may get, there is going to be a gap btn him and certain ppl...Naruto and Sasuke are poised for a level of greatness few ninja ever dream off let alone achieve...

I am in no way calling Neji weak, but there is a time when it must be admitted that he isnt the No.1 Rookie anymore...

[jounin101]

jounin doesnt mean you have to know 2 elements. kakashi said something along the lines of "most jounin know 2 elements or more" but thats not the same as a requirement. even so, neji would likely be a special case due to the fact that he's a hyuga. they seem to focus on jyuken and trigram jutsus that let them benefit from byakugan.

i dont really know if he's on naruto and sasuke's level, but thats only because of kyuubi and CS, otherwise, he should be able to hang with their normal selves.

i want to see him in a situation like shikamaru had. 1on1 with powerful akatsuki member, at least for a while.

[Uchiha Adrian]

aye it wud be good 2 see him vs an akatsuki member

[B0ukun]

Just because a character doesn't get much 'air time' doesn't mean he's weaker than naruto or sasuke. Imo he's always been one of the best...easily. A true genius who won't really lose to anyone. Shikamaru took an Akatsuki member by himself as well and left unscathed. Naruto took on a half dead one

Said half dead akatsuki had three hearts remaining. naruto took out two and a half. He was prolly mid heart-attack when Kakashi killed him. On the weaker than, he's weaker than Naruto and Sasuke, point blank. Naruto beat Neji before he had Rasengan, Odama rasengan, Rasenshuriken, proper clone usage, Weapons scroll and a Genjutsu counter. I don't think Neji could get by all of these new things with just Byakugan, which can't differentiate between kage Bushins and the real person.

In a one on one battle, where Hidan just happens to meet Shika, Hidan would have won

IMO thats debatable since Shika had the ritual figured out in their first fight. After seeing it once. What Shika's biggest problem would be is Hidans immortality. Thats where shika would run into trouble.

And Neji vs Sasuke, not a good deal for Neji. Forget Sharingan, massive fire jutsu, chidori, nagashiki chidori, This new light saber thing. Thats a hard margin for Neji, not to mention the speed difference. (I'm admitting Sasuke to be the fastest of the konoha 9 now)

Neji vs an Akatsuki member, thats a battle I'd like to see. That would be hot.

[jounin101]

IMO thats debatable since Shika had the ritual figured out in their first fight. After seeing it once. What Shika's biggest problem would be is Hidans immortality. Thats where shika would run into trouble.



i agree with the rest of your post, but shika will have lost if he and hidan just randomly met for the first time(which is what the guy you responded to meant) shikamaru would have no way of knowing the ritual unless it happened to himsel, thus shika would be dead, or postponing death with shadow copy for roughly 5 minutes.

[B0ukun]

okay, I agree with that. Shika just needs a guinea pig.

[Uchiha Adrian]

well back to neji i think he wud put up a good fight vs sasuke but sasuke does look very strong atm.

[B0ukun]

And Neji vs Sasuke, not a good deal for Neji. Forget Sharingan, massive fire jutsu, chidori, nagashiki chidori, This new light saber thing. Thats a hard margin for Neji, not to mention the speed difference. (I'm admitting Sasuke to be the fastest of the konoha 9 now)

Thats my story and I'm stickin to it.

[sharingan_user]

Neji vs an Akatsuki member, thats a battle I'd like to see. That would be hot.

that would be very cool, indeed..

[DonEmu]

Actually from what i remember kakashi said something along the lines of
Kakashi: Most jounin know more than one element, its one of the requirements...

[jounin101]

i know its just a translation, but NMR is pretty reliable
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/volume35.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=25812
i was actually looking for them to have 344 at the time, but they dont get anything til fridays.

[Josephus]

And Neji vs Sasuke, not a good deal for Neji. Forget Sharingan, massive fire jutsu, chidori, nagashiki chidori, This new light saber thing. Thats a hard margin for Neji, not to mention the speed difference. (I'm admitting Sasuke to be the fastest of the konoha 9 now)


Neji isnt part of the Konoha 9, he was in the year ahead ahead of them [/nitpick]

Otherwise I agree with everything you said. Neji is overrated IMO, We never saw him being particularily fast or anything to help him get close to an opponent, all he needs to be defeated would be a powerful Long Range User, like someone similar to Kidomaru who was really good at Neji, just someone a little bit better than Kido and Neji woulda have died

[Omaki_Roku]

you are wrong, neji now has an attack that can nullify a Long range person.

and as for Neji id be really dissapointed if they didnt make him as strong, seeing as what hes accomplished at such a young age. Hes a self taught Genius and he gained his reputation with nobodys help really.

For them to shun him like he cant get any stronger faster or better would be completly ridiculous to his character, It just wouldnt make any sense at all.

It would Kinda be like what happend to Vegeeta in DB-GT
how can the prince of all Saiyans Not be able to handle the Transformation into Super Saiyan-4 without help, even after it was explained that he trained harder than Goku on planet earth.

I thought that was BS
and for them to hinder Neji's Character just because.....really wouldnt make any sense and I think it would hurt the story more than help it.

[B0ukun]

I don't think its a hinderance to not have him as strong as someone who already beat him. Yes he trained very hard but these two were both trained by legends and one has a Sharingan which allows him to learn jutsu ultra quick. Naruto has an unexauhstible amount of chakra so Juken doesn't do much but force Naruto to use Kyubi Chakra, thats bad for Neji. Granted Neji is defiantely number three out of all of the 9 which puts him above the likes of Shika and Shino. He's not going to be completely on par with Naruto or Sasuke however.

As far as DB-GT goes...It doesn't exist, poof, vamose sonava*****. Vegeta could go SSJ4 Gohan completely forgot about the Mystic Stance which made him on par with SSJ3 if not more powerful because of the lack of anger clouding his mind. Trunks and Goten never got pass SSJ on their own but in DBZ they were acendant Sayains by themselves and SSJ together. Bandai screwed up on that one big time.

[DonEmu]

If neji was fast enough so that lee felt his speed wasnt good enough to beat him without opening gates, then sasuke's speed would mean nothing to neji, i admit sasuke has quite the arsenal now, but speed isnt something that should be mentioned...If sasuke tries any taijutsu, like it or not he is gonna get raped...

[B0ukun]

Its not the speed the thing, Byakugan gives neji the advantage against normal people. Sharingan and the eye of insight would pretty much equal them out. Where Neji could see Sasuke coming and use kaiten, Sasuke would be able to predict the spin and dodge, he's also be able to see the stop before it happens and with said speed he'd be able to capitalize using taijutsu. Thats what Sasuke's Taijutsu vs Neji would have over Rock Lee's. Remember when Neji fought Naruto, once he used Kyubi Chakra Neji could keep up with his speed, Sasuke could. So Sharingan would even them out on that. If lee gets a hit on Neji, thats an accomplishment, naruto couldn't do it with a perfect strategy because of that damned Byakugan

[jounin101]

I don't think its a hinderance to not have him as strong as someone who already beat him. Yes he trained very hard but these two were both trained by legends and one has a Sharingan which allows him to learn jutsu ultra quick. Naruto has an unexauhstible amount of chakra so Juken doesn't do much but force Naruto to use Kyubi Chakra, thats bad for Neji. Granted Neji is defiantely number three out of all of the 9 which puts him above the likes of Shika and Shino. He's not going to be completely on par with Naruto or Sasuke however.

As far as DB-GT goes...It doesn't exist, poof, vamose sonava*****. Vegeta could go SSJ4 Gohan completely forgot about the Mystic Stance which made him on par with SSJ3 if not more powerful because of the lack of anger clouding his mind. Trunks and Goten never got pass SSJ on their own but in DBZ they were acendant Sayains by themselves and SSJ together. Bandai screwed up on that one big time.

Jay-Z fan huh:)
and i agree, its unfair that neji gets shitted out of being on naruto and sasuke's level, but...kishi decided to shit on him, so we gotta deal with it. i still think he's a formidable opponent for alot of ninja, but there's really not much growth for a hyuga outside of jyuken, so that puts a salary cap on how far he can grow.

and what does neji's jutsu do(the one he used on kisame, i think it was dubbed "vacuum palm")?

[Mr. K]

i don't care about anyone but "the three"
mainly

[papfles]

good for you, mr. K

they are chars in a popular show, the focus on the "three" is already quite significant, some public time for the other chars (how limited it might be...ok, not as limited as showing hinata and then never seeing her again) might be a sigh of relief for the show in stead of the "sasuke-naruto-sasuke-naruto" cycle that's been going on recently (thank god, shika was there to interrupt that flow)

[UndrDog]

Neji's strong. Very strong and his abilities deserving of Special Jounin during the Chuunin exams in my opinion. Though he wasn't mature enough at the time to even reach Chuunin. After his fight with Kidomaru and his training against two specialists, the always insanely powerful Gai, and Hiashi along with the other Hyuuga there's no doubt he'd reach Jounin by now.

Characters like Lee are as strong if not stronger then Jounin, but only specialize in one area. Thus advancing to Jounin as Lee would be next to impossible. Best case is Special Jounin. So I wouldn't look down on Lee in this instance. His rank doesn't reflect his abilities. Of course we know that.

So... not to take this too far off from Neji, why isn't Shino Jounin yet? I believe he was of Chuunin calibur during the Chuunin exams. It's almost like Kishi decided that Shino's fight would have to not be fought infront of the judges in order for Shika to advance to Chuunin alone.

So if Shino's only a Chuunin now, does that mean his abilities are limited? Or is Team Eight in general for whatever reason held back from advancement?

Anyway, I didn't want to take this too far off of Neji, but just wanted to mention that perhaps Neji isn't the only Jounin calibur of the Konoha 11.

[Josephus]

you are wrong, neji now has an attack that can nullify a Long range person.


Really? What is it? I certantly dont remember him doing any special jutsu or him actually doing anything and revealing new stuff since the Kidomaru fight.

Fact is in a between Sasuke and Neji, Sasuke has a much higher chance of winning. The Sharingan and Byakugan pretty much nulify each other out so then your left with taijutsu and ninjitsu. Sasuke wins in a Ninjutsu battle hands down and Neji probably just barely wins in a Taijutsu battle. I'm not saying that Neji can't win at all, but he would have a more difficult time then Sasuke. Especially since all Sasuke needs to do is use his medium/long range jutsus to stop Neji.

[jounin101]

this jutsu here, this is what Omaki and I were talking about
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/vol29.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=26166

[Josephus]

this jutsu here, this is what Omaki and I were talking about
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/vol29.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=26166

Thank you, that evens the fight up a bit. Now that I know Neji has at least one long range jutsu a fight between him and Sasuke is probably even.

[Seta Soujirou]

Neji is strong and has an advance bloodline...there's no doubt he can match sasuke and naruto...

[10sarg]

but with saskue's new ability with his chakra manipulation i say he takes the lead slighlty again also with saskue's new chidori electric field thing going on neji cant really get as close anymore as he once could.

[Hidden Ninja]

yes but you have to remember, neji's kaiten repels the attackers chakra and sends it back to them. hence, if neji gets his attack off in time, he will be able to repel any attack coming at him.

[Azure Wrath]

i think we MAY just see a rematch between neji and kisame... i dunno, for some twisted reason in my mind it makes sense.

kisame has SOOO much chakra and can 'shave' chakra while neji can block chakra pores (tenketsu? scuse spelling), which could help..... i think it'd own.

neji can put up a fight with naruto and sasuke... untill naruto goes anythign above 1tk and sasuke goes CS... neji has no trump card like that... that we've seen. but i personally think the moment naruto and sasuke pull outthe big guns, neji is down.

[Omaki_Roku]

i have a feeling Sauske and Neji will never cross paths

but as far as Itachi vs Neji

I can see that in the future...just a hunch but we shall see.


I want to know though what type of nature manipulation Neji has learned.
Him being a jounin and all makes you wonder, but yet again we shall see.

I see him being more of a water/Wind combatant
due to the fact that water is the opposite of Fire which fire is the main element of Uchiha

and Wind because it seems that his techinques kinda symbolize in some way the way Wind works, the spinning the pushing things away with chakra.

[10sarg]

yeah sounds about right. his natural affinity wont be win but i guess he'd of learnt it at some point.

[Uchiha Adrian]

Really? What is it? I certantly dont remember him doing any special jutsu or him actually doing anything and revealing new stuff since the Kidomaru fight.

Fact is in a between Sasuke and Neji, Sasuke has a much higher chance of winning. The Sharingan and Byakugan pretty much nulify each other out so then your left with taijutsu and ninjitsu. Sasuke wins in a Ninjutsu battle hands down and Neji probably just barely wins in a Taijutsu battle. I'm not saying that Neji can't win at all, but he would have a more difficult time then Sasuke. Especially since all Sasuke needs to do is use his medium/long range jutsus to stop Neji.

wrong neji wud beat sasuke pretty easily with taijustu tbh

[hotnikkelz]

sound arguments, but the bottom line is noone really knows how good neji really is. AT genin level he was FAR above the rest, and only because of the fox chakra was naruto able to win. I see NO REASON at all to assume he has maintained an extremely high level of ability. He is a jounin after all compared to the rest. That alone says he was a notch above the rest. We can only wait, hope and see.

For the dude speaking about the Kisame fight. Keep in mind, he was the only one to break that water prison, not even kakashi could've done it. I won't call that helpless. The rest were.

Hyuga clan doesn't need elemental jutsu, chakra is all you ever need.

[DonEmu]

sound arguments, but the bottom line is noone really knows how good neji really is. AT genin level he was FAR above the rest, and only because of the fox chakra was naruto able to win. I see NO REASON at all to assume he has maintained an extremely high level of ability. He is a jounin after all compared to the rest. That alone says he was a notch above the rest. We can only wait, hope and see.

For the dude speaking about the Kisame fight. Keep in mind, he was the only one to break that water prison, not even kakashi could've done it. I won't call that helpless. The rest were.

Hyuga clan doesn't need elemental jutsu, chakra is all you ever need.

He used Jyuken, something only a hyuuga would have, and that is the only way someone within the water prison can brake himself out...Another would be releasing a mass of chakra like Kyuubi...

Also, Neji was actually a year ahead of naruto and the rest...
Lee, Neji and Tenten are a year ahead, they arent part of the rookie nine...He had a year of gennin life prior to the rookie nine...

[hotnikkelz]

But that's his ability, by nature he's just a beast. IMO a genin is a genin. To me it doesn't matter if you're one year ahead. Naruto will smoke Tenten's ass. In fact anyone will smoke tenten. Lee is in the same group, we all know he's super strong, yet he's not a jounin....this says something about Neji.

[Uchiha Adrian]

very true i agree

[DonEmu]

But that's his ability, by nature he's just a beast. IMO a genin is a genin. To me it doesn't matter if you're one year ahead. Naruto will smoke Tenten's ass. In fact anyone will smoke tenten. Lee is in the same group, we all know he's super strong, yet he's not a jounin....this says something about Neji.

We all know who is super strong? Lee cant mold chakra, so the best he could ever do is special jounin, since he cant use elemental jutsu which is something a real jounin should be capable of doing.

Naruto is also called genin but we all know he is far from genin strength, so is sasuke. By nature he is just a beast, if Neji fought kisame alone, and held his own then i will call him a beast. Besides the fight agaisnt the sound nin, whiche he himself gained a pyrhic victory, and when he beat hinata, when exactly has he looked like a beast?

You forget the Kankurou and Temari are also jounin...yet i dont see people calling them beasts...

very true i agree

Learn to say more mate... :p

[Uchiha Adrian]

hehehe iam lazy, sorry but i think neji and gaara are 1 of the few ninjas who could hold there own against naruto and sasuke but we have 2 wait and c now how strong gaara is without shaku and nejis full capabilties

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

We all know who is super strong? Lee cant mold chakra, so the best he could ever do is special jounin, since he cant use elemental jutsu which is something a real jounin should be capable of doing.

Naruto is also called genin but we all know he is far from genin strength, so is sasuke. By nature he is just a beast, if Neji fought kisame alone, and held his own then i will call him a beast. Besides the fight agaisnt the sound nin, whiche he himself gained a pyrhic victory, and when he beat hinata, when exactly has he looked like a beast?

You forget the Kankurou and Temari are also jounin...yet i dont see people calling them beasts...

Lee is strong but i agree with DonEmu he is far from becoming a jounin without elemtal jutsu . but once again ranks are not all, for instance if naruto takes the chuunin examn he would most likely be able to beat the other genins, sasuke he would just rape everyone.

But neji on the other hand he is really smart and talented, and also i dont recall if almost all jounins or all of them are able to use 2 elements. (not that other ninjas couldnt do it ) but if u think about it neji has never done a katon, doton, suiton, fuuton or any element jutsu, so it seems we will see some suprise soon when he gets a chance to fight i bet he has grown up to par with naruto and sasuke but i guess we will have to wait :p

[hotnikkelz]

Regardless of whether or not he can mold chakra, he's strong because he can open gates, that takes him to around jounin level already imo. He probably can open 7 by now, who knows, but he's damn good. Natural suiken user etc etc.

Being able to use more than 2 elemental jutsu is not a REQUIREMENT to being a jounin, all kakashi said was that most jounin are able to do 2 elements. Hyuga in general don't use elemental jutsu, oro doesn't use it either, Sasori, kankurou, Hidan doesn't use it, hyuga eg neji...don't do elemental jutsu. The list goes on and they're all jounin level or higher.

In the ninja world imo, all that matters is chakra not ability to do elemental jutsu, or kakashi will be the best that ever lived. The only elemental jutsu he hasn't done is fuuton.

[Arty]

I think that later on Neji will take the role of a Elite Junin like kakashi is now but ofc..the next gen :). Hell prob combine the Hyuuga clans and bring order or something cheeeze. Anyhow dont think hes got the ballz to take Naruto or Sasuke on in the comming future.

[10sarg]

i'm not sure y but i have an overwhelming feeling that neji will die. neji is well known and respected in kohona and amoungst are current number of youngsters so to speak. and i think his death would have as much an mental impact that they cant recover but would be like a major wake up call for everyone.

if you think about it there is no one else who would impact everyone but not on a massive enough scale to make it all about emotion and crap. it wont be hinata cos she's such a non entity.

[KageNaruto]

Lee is strong but i agree with DonEmu he is far from becoming a jounin without elemtal jutsu . but once again ranks are not all, for instance if naruto takes the chuunin examn he would most likely be able to beat the other genins, sasuke he would just rape everyone.

But neji on the other hand he is really smart and talented, and also i dont recall if almost all jounins or all of them are able to use 2 elements. (not that other ninjas couldnt do it ) but if u think about it neji has never done a katon, doton, suiton, fuuton or any element jutsu, so it seems we will see some suprise soon when he gets a chance to fight i bet he has grown up to par with naruto and sasuke but i guess we will have to wait :p

you have no proof lee is actually at jounin strength, and the person who said he learned 7 gates, yeah possible, but pure speculation. and no way is neji as good as naruto or sasuke.

and if ehat the hell is up with your chuunin exam statement-_-? naruto would rape everyone, same with sasuke. the gap between them is not big if its even there

[Omaki_Roku]

neji was better than Naruto at the point in the chunin exam, Naruto managed to get lucky with one hit with the help of the Demon fox, the whole fight Neji basically trashed him.

For the writer to make neji on some really weak scale against Sauske and Naruto, just would not make any sense.


THe only reason why those guys would even have any advantage over neji in my oppinion is because of the Cursed Seal and the 9 tails.

But as far as Self ability goes, I think Neji has and Is and should be better than them both.

[KageNaruto]

kyubi is part of naruto, and he has as much right to use it as byakugan (sides it took training to learn it, makes it fair).

naruto beat neji in the chuunin exams, it wasnt nearly as much luck as it was skill, very very little luck is invovled.

self skill, naruto is on par ro above kakashi, i doubt neji got there

[MattLad]

Neji vrs Kisame would be intense.

But out of all the "forgotten" nin of naruto's time skip that i would like to see in battle..........Shino.

Shino was hardly ever touched in any of his battles...ever.

Is he on par with Naruto or Sasuke..Hell no!.. but hes a very clever nin that has a very "unatural" fighting style even for the nin of Naruto world.

[Omaki_Roku]

kyubi is part of naruto, and he has as much right to use it as byakugan (sides it took training to learn it, makes it fair).

naruto beat neji in the chuunin exams, it wasnt nearly as much luck as it was skill, very very little luck is invovled.

self skill, naruto is on par ro above kakashi, i doubt neji got there

Neji is a Jounin now, he is the same Rank as Kakashi
dont forget that,

Not to mentioned he has been influenced by Kakashi's Rival Gai.

You underestimate Neji too much. and hes already done what kakashi couldnt, and thats break the water prison under his own will power.

and what im saying what was lucky about naruto having the kyubi is that any ordinary ninja would of been killed after taking the 64 hits of diviinity, hell ask Kidomaru how he feels not to have a Kyubi to back him up.

[ImThunder]

So guys what do you think Neji will do in the near future - u think he can reach the level of naruto and sasuke - that level hes been training with hiashi 2 get 2?

It would seem hes the strongest outta the generation in konoha bar sasuke and naruto seein as hes jounin now as well -

i just wonder wat thoughts u have on him and the future i'd like to see him as a ninja like white fang compared with sannin maybe not quite as strong but on a par with sasuke and naruto just as the white fang was with the sannin.

I don't think Neji can defeat either Naruto or Sasuke..Naruto n Sasuke will be the best/greates n legend in Konoha....just like The first & Madara...

[el naruto]

Neji is good and probably realllly strong but dont think he could vs Naruto or Sasuke but i think they should bring him back into the story more and show his new skills and strenghts.

[10sarg]

i'm not gonna count neji out on a battle against either naruto or saskue. his fighting method is totally different from theres and i reckon he could hold his own against them.

i reckon at some point he'll take on saskue as he wants to test himself against another elite genius and then we'll see a real fight.

[Arty]

Neji wount be able to keep up with Naruto and Sasuke although he WILL be one of the strongest ninja in Konoha. I think its pretty obvius since we have bin seeing fkrn incredable growth from both Naruto and Sasuke, new training methods and co. Lee , Neji , Sakura , Kiba , Shino will fight for the third place

[Ichee]

Naruto is the Goku to this story and Sasuke is the Vegeta so basically they're the strongest or at least going to surpass everyone sooner or later and be untouchable.
Neji is the Yamcha compared to them.

[Hidden Ninja]

neji is no way near kakashi. neji is a jounin but not an elite jounin like kakashi. also just because you are the same rank as someone does not make them equal. look at the sannins. not all of them are on the same level.

[Ichee]

Yeah but the sannins have their own league.

[Hidden Ninja]

yeah i know that, but its just to show how ninjas can have the same rank/name and not be of equal strength

[10sarg]

well thats obvious, asuma and kakashi were of the same rank but kakshi would kick asuma's ass all day long.,

[Collateral]

asuma and jirayia were on the same rank as well

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

If you check the manga, kakashi still calls neji : Neji-kun. not -san so neji isnt near kakashi's level

[Collateral]

If you check the manga, kakashi still calls neji : Neji-kun. not -san so neji isnt near kakashi's level

but he also says iraku-san and iraku is not near his level and i am sure neji is stronger than iraku

[10sarg]

yeah but neither are stronger than kakashi. so he's just talking down to both of em.

[Ichee]

no hes not... hes giving more respect to Iruka than to Neji.

I wonder what happened to Iruka.. hes the puar to this series.

[DonEmu]

You guys do know that the Sannin are actually just Jounin, right?
Sannin isnt a real title, though it implies hokage lvl strength, they are still technically Jounin...

[Ichee]

I know that... but it doesn't change that they have their own league.

To make this claim valid... is because many times people compare strength of someone to the sannin whether or not someones stronger, weaker, or on their level.

Also Jaraiya always compare himself to others such as akatsuki to give people such as Kakashi insight to how powerful the enemies are.

[DonEmu]

I know that... but it doesn't change that they have their own league.

To make this claim valid... is because many times people compare strength of someone to the sannin whether or not someones stronger, weaker, or on their level.

Also Jaraiya always compare himself to others such as akatsuki to give people such as Kakashi insight to how powerful the enemies are.

Still isnt a rank, i know what u are saying, i also use terms like "Kage lvl" and sannin, and that is what akatsuki really are, i am just saying , when push comes to shove, they are all jounin...

Neji is a jounin, do i think he is elite jounin, nope, or he would most likely be leading his own team instead of still following gai.

Do i think Neji has a future yes, but i dont think he is uber super pwn anybody strength yet, imo, he could go toe to toe with an akatsuki on his own, from the members we have seen so far and the little we have seen from Neji, he would get close enough to use Jyuken...

[UndrDog]

Just abit of a side note on the name suffixes, my thoughts are that Kakashi calls Iruka "san" as to show respect for him. That and it shows any students of his that he's repsected by Jounin and should therefore be respected by them.

As for calling Neji, Neji-kun, it's probably in respect to Gai who I'm sure still considered Neji his student. Reguardless of rank. It would be like an adult treating his friend the same was as he does his friend's son. It sorta knocks him down a peg on the respect ladder.

[clamchauda]

Honestly, as much as I like Neji and his crazy taijutsu skills, there's just no way that he'll be on par with Sasuke or Naruto. The main characters in any anime are almost always the strongest. I do think that Neji might end up being on Kakashi's level (Elite Jounin), and end up being the strongest outside of those two.

[UndrDog]

Eh, I think Neji will lighten up abit once he gets his own team and we'll see some crazy Lee/Neji challanges! No seriously I hope he does. You know Lee and Tenten have had their own little adventures trying to get that kid to freaking smile.

[Ichee]

Still isnt a rank, i know what u are saying, i also use terms like "Kage lvl" and sannin, and that is what akatsuki really are, i am just saying , when push comes to shove, they are all jounin...

Neji is a jounin, do i think he is elite jounin, nope, or he would most likely be leading his own team instead of still following gai.

Do i think Neji has a future yes, but i dont think he is uber super pwn anybody strength yet, imo, he could go toe to toe with an akatsuki on his own, from the members we have seen so far and the little we have seen from Neji, he would get close enough to use Jyuken...

Well, to tell you the truth they're not even called Jounin..

Two Sannin are not even affiliated with a village... the only one is Tsunade but shes "Hokage".

Jaraiya is called a Toad Hermit and lives in mountains and travel alot.. Also he was soppose to be Hokage.

Orochimaru is basically Otokage because he taken over the country of rice fields and establish his own hidden village.

So yeah, I think we're done with this debate.

[Omaki_Roku]

When it shows Neji's shitting game later in the series ill be sure to dig this thread up just to laugh.

[DonEmu]

Well, to tell you the truth they're not even called Jounin..

Two Sannin are not even affiliated with a village... the only one is Tsunade but shes "Hokage".

Jaraiya is called a Toad Hermit and lives in mountains and travel alot.. Also he was soppose to be Hokage.

Orochimaru is basically Otokage because he taken over the country of rice fields and establish his own hidden village.

So yeah, I think we're done with this debate.

1.Em, Jiraiya was more affiliated with the village than tsunade until he brought her back

2.They were all jounin before they were called sannin, they all achieved jounin rank and are therefore jounin, Sannin is just a nickname

3.Even Kage isnt a rank but a title,nothing in the world saying a gennin cant make kage...

Now we are done with the debate :p

[Ichee]

1.Em, Jiraiya was more affiliated with the village than tsunade until he brought her back

2.They were all jounin before they were called sannin, they all achieved jounin rank and are therefore jounin, Sannin is just a nickname

3.Even Kage isnt a rank but a title,nothing in the world saying a gennin cant make kage...

Now we are done with the debate :p

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Whew, that was good e-laugh... anyway you're just sounding remedial right now... I'm not even going to arggue with a Narutard, I already proved my point.

[hotnikkelz]

Everyone OVERRATES Naruto. He's weak, Itachi said it himself, the dude can't evne break out simple genjutsu. All he has is his new jutsu, i don't consider him nowhere on par with kakashi at all even if kakashi says so. The only thing that he did was create a jutsu the 4th couldn't. That is it, that and his Kyuubi.

Sasuke i can agree on in terms of strength but not naruto at all, plus he's still a dummie. Everyone underestimates how truly good neji is. The dude is WITHOUT flaw.

I'm pretty sure Neji is as good as kakashi in terms of ability...ppl forget that hyuga are a genius ninja clan, second only to Uchiha. Also a jounin is a jounin.

Sannin is just a title given to those 3 because they were said to be on par with Hokages in terms of ability, it's not a rank. It does however mean they're above jounin level of course. In other words you won't take kakashi and make him Hokage would you, you'll choose Jiraiya of the legendary 3.

[KageNaruto]

Everyone OVERRATES Naruto. He's weak, Itachi said it himself, the dude can't evne break out simple genjutsu. All he has is his new jutsu, i don't consider him nowhere on par with kakashi at all even if kakashi says so. The only thing that he did was create a jutsu the 4th couldn't. That is it, that and his Kyuubi.

Sasuke i can agree on in terms of strength but not naruto at all, plus he's still a dummie. Everyone underestimates how truly good neji is. The dude is WITHOUT flaw.

I'm pretty sure Neji is as good as kakashi in terms of ability...ppl forget that hyuga are a genius ninja clan, second only to Uchiha. Also a jounin is a jounin.

Sannin is just a title given to those 3 because they were said to be on par with Hokages in terms of ability, it's not a rank. It does however mean they're above jounin level of course. In other words you won't take kakashi and make him Hokage would you, you'll choose Jiraiya of the legendary 3.

I am quite sure that Itachi did not call Naruto weak, and Itachi calls everyone weak, it's his 'thing". Naruto has also done a lot to show how crazy of a shinobi he is, like take on Kakuzu and actually manage to take away his hearts, which Kakashi was unable to do.

It was never stated that Hyuga are geniuses, and Uchiha were never stated to be ahead of them in terms of anything. Not to mention we havent seen a kage out of either one of these clans. They seem to be show offs more than antyhing esle.

Currently we have nothing to even remotely judge Neji's ability other than he is good enough to be a jounin. Of course we've seen tons of shitty jounin and chuunin throughout the show so far.

Oh, and Kage I belive is a rank, the top one.

[General Summer]

People keep bringing up the fact that Neji is a Jounin. So that MUST make him as strong as Naruto atleast, right?

Naaahhh, Naruto hasn't had a chance to re-take the chuunin exams. Everyone except Shikamaru failed the first exam, and Naruto was gone for the second. So Neji being a Jounin doesn't make him stronger than Naruto, or any better, just means he's had more time to improve. But, i'm sure he could hold his own in a fight against Naruto. Naruto has a limited amount of Jutsu, and none that Neji has not seen before, excluding the Rasen-Shuriken. I think if they fought, Neji would do a good job, and i'd be a close fight.

[10sarg]

Everyone OVERRATES Naruto. He's weak, Itachi said it himself, the dude can't evne break out simple genjutsu. All he has is his new jutsu, i don't consider him nowhere on par with kakashi at all even if kakashi says so. The only thing that he did was create a jutsu the 4th couldn't. That is it, that and his Kyuubi.

Sasuke i can agree on in terms of strength but not naruto at all, plus he's still a dummie. Everyone underestimates how truly good neji is. The dude is WITHOUT flaw.

I'm pretty sure Neji is as good as kakashi in terms of ability...ppl forget that hyuga are a genius ninja clan, second only to Uchiha. Also a jounin is a jounin.

Sannin is just a title given to those 3 because they were said to be on par with Hokages in terms of ability, it's not a rank. It does however mean they're above jounin level of course. In other words you won't take kakashi and make him Hokage would you, you'll choose Jiraiya of the legendary 3.

itachi the master of genjutsu did nto say naruto was weak at dispelling this is exactly what he said - "He's gotten stronger, but not strong enough" and then upped his genjutsu!

neji is good, no doubt about that but theres no way in hell he could stand up to rasenshuriken, or any tailed form. Also kakashi has just said naruto has surpassed him, so i'd say naruto is definitly jounin level!

[hotnikkelz]

My translation has it as he's weak, but that doesn't matter. Naruto not being able to a break a genjutsu is an enough indication for me to say he's still pretty weak. He was the only one who fell into it.

I don't remember in the managa as much, but in the anime they ALWAYS praised the Hyuga in being on of the best clans in Konoha, and Neji was the most gifted in temrs of talent. Everyone called him a genius, including the third. I do agree we don't have enough to judge Neji though, but i have NO doubt at all, that he can take on any ninja and do extremely well, this includes the tailed forms. Don't underestimate the kaiten

I still don't know how naruto landed that jutsu, it was really crappy imo, and anticlimatic. Very lazily written, but it happened nonetheless. I am not impressed though. Everyone also seems to just watch naruto and let him do his slow ass jutsu i dunno why haha. Kill one of the clones for pete's sake haha

I didn't say Kage is not a rank, i said Sannin is not a rank.

[rkappiyo]

My translation has it as he's weak, but that doesn't matter. Naruto not being able to a break a genjutsu is an enough indication for me to say he's still pretty weak. He was the only one who fell into it.


Look, pre-time skip, Kakashi couldn't break out of Itachi's genjutsu, and Kakashi had the sharingan! I think this tells you that Itachi's genjutsu is rather powerful and hard to break out of.

I don't remember in the managa as much, but in the anime they ALWAYS praised the Hyuga in being on of the best clans in Konoha, and Neji was the most gifted in temrs of talent. Everyone called him a genius, including the third. I do agree we don't have enough to judge Neji though, but i have NO doubt at all, that he can take on any ninja and do extremely well, this includes the tailed forms. Don't underestimate the kaiten

Really, he can take on the tailed forms when both Oro and Jiraiya were nearly killed by Naruto's 4-tailed form? He is now above the sannin?

I still don't know how naruto landed that jutsu, it was really crappy imo, and anticlimatic. Very lazily written, but it happened nonetheless. I am not impressed though. Everyone also seems to just watch naruto and let him do his slow ass jutsu i dunno why haha. Kill one of the clones for pete's sake haha

Umm... Kakuzu did kill one of the clones. He killed the one that he thought was the real Naruto, however, it was a fake, and Naruto destroyed him from behind.

Also, you said Naruto was a dummy. Tell me, other than Shikamaru, name one other character that you have seen come up with a plan in a tough situation.

[Hidden Ninja]

general summer: also chuunin/jounin does not indicate solely power. it is about intelligence and the ability to lead others.

[Omaki_Roku]

for the record, the Hyuga clan is second to nobody in Konoha

It has been stated in anime and Manga alike

the Hyuga clan is the TRUMP of Konoha.

[oipotty]

that means nothing

really depends on the individual shinobi
uchiha would pwn the hyuuga

[Lukasz]

I am quite sure that Itachi did not call Naruto weak, and Itachi calls everyone weak, it's his 'thing".


that made me laugh very loud. (lvl)

rkappiyo: kakashi couldn't break away from sharingan genjutsu.
but according to selfcentered itachi nobody except pure uchiha with sharingan can escape it.
kakashi is hatake not uchiha.

[Pryce]

NO doubt at all, that he can take on any ninja and do extremely well, this includes the tailed forms. Don't underestimate the kaiten



logic is useless to someone like this Ive already seen naruto beat neji and yes he used the kaitem in tailed form naruto doesnt need clones to use rasengan and in 4tailed mode he problably wouldnt need any for rasenganShuriken not that he would even need it in that form

[el naruto]

Neji Is a strong nin I mean I think naruto could take him now but He has very good leader qualitys and His clans bloodline limit makes him a formidble oppenent.

[hotnikkelz]

rkappiyo:
Itachi used Tsukyomi, not many can break this. He used a minor 1 finger genjutsu vs naruto which ONLY affected him.
I didn't say he'll WIN vs tailed forms i said he'll be able to perform decently vs most if any ninja. That's my opinion
I mean he should kill one of the clones WHILE naruto is busy making his rasen whatever. Just kill the clones that that were helping in the making. he had the jutsu to do it.
Also i'm not talkin about his strategies, i'm talking about his overall smartness, eg...when kakashi was trying to teach him how to use the clones to make a jutsu. That's what i meant, he was just like clueless.

Pryce:
I don't see your point, Kaiten works vs everything from what i gather. He can use it to reflect much stronger attacks at the level i assume he's at. Also, naruto NEEDS a clone to make rasengan, he can only make rasengan solo ONLY when he's entered tailed forms. Reason i say Neji can take on a tailed form is because Sasuke took on a 1 tailed form before the time skip and won. From that i assume, Neji should at least be able to handle 1-2 tailed forms. I think that's logical enough

[Hidden Ninja]

I don't see your point, Kaiten works vs everything from what i gather. He can use it to reflect much stronger attacks at the level i assume he's at. Also, naruto NEEDS a clone to make rasengan, he can only make rasengan solo ONLY when he's entered tailed forms. Reason i say Neji can take on a tailed form is because Sasuke took on a 1 tailed form before the time skip and won. From that i assume, Neji should at least be able to handle 1-2 tailed forms. I think that's logical enough

so because sasuke can do it neji can? what kind of reasoning is that. that makes zero sense. also you don't know whether naruto learned how to do the rasengan by himself yet. he did go through that massive training.

[Pryce]

rkappiyo:

Pryce:
I don't see your point, Kaiten works vs everything from what i gather. He can use it to reflect much stronger attacks at the level i assume he's at. Also, naruto NEEDS a clone to make rasengan, he can only make rasengan solo ONLY when he's entered tailed forms. Reason i say Neji can take on a tailed form is because Sasuke took on a 1 tailed form before the time skip and won. From that i assume, Neji should at least be able to handle 1-2 tailed forms. I think that's logical enough

realy you think kaiten works vs all jutsus, remember the naruto neji fight?

further more Ive seen naruto in 4 tailed form blast oros so called Ultimate defence like it was butter besdies one touch of his chakra will not only burn nejis flesh off but poison him after words

yeah that sasuke vs naruto fight naruto wasnt fully 1 tail it was about half way out and when he did that he basiclly turned sasuke into a punching bag untill he used the cs2 which it became about even.

but yeah neji's main form of attacking can be nagated by naruto releaseing kyubi's chakra then its game over simular to their first fight I see this ending in about the same way.

I anyway its not like neji will keep up the Kaiten up the whole fight and it takes time to gather enough speed time neji doent have

[oipotty]

sorry if i am sounding ignorent but, oro has an ultimate defense?

[the killer Uchiha]

sorry if i am sounding ignorent but, oro has an ultimate defense?

he doesn't anymore if he did which i don't believe was ever mentioned if he had one or not.

[oipotty]

i dont know how the heck he would have an ultimate defense. he jutsus are different, not really defensive

[y.o.]

so because sasuke can do it neji can? what kind of reasoning is that. that makes zero sense. also you don't know whether naruto learned how to do the rasengan by himself yet. he did go through that massive training.

Actually he made a pretty good point, neji is now jounin lvl, and back then sasuke was at chuunin lvl even though he had a curse seal to ad himm I think neji might be able to beat one tailed naruto, I dont think he can handle anything above that though!!

[Kratos]

i dont know how the heck he would have an ultimate defense. he jutsus are different, not really defensive

Read 4TK Naruto vs Oro again. Oro summons three gates to block that large chakra blast. That's his ultimate defense.

[KageNaruto]

Read 4TK Naruto vs Oro again. Oro summons three gates to block that large chakra blast. That's his ultimate defense.

The jutsu is called Rashoumon, Sakon and Ukon could use it too

[Pryce]

The jutsu is called Rashoumon, Sakon and Ukon could use it too

dont think he summoned 3 gates though, and besides just because 2 people use the same jutsu doesnt mean it has the same Strength even though ukon only did 1 gate if I remember

[KageNaruto]

dont think he summoned 3 gates though, and besides just because 2 people use the same jutsu doesnt mean it has the same Strength even though ukon only did 1 gate if I remember

Yes they summoned only one gate, but one gate of theirs would still be equal to Orochimaru's.

Kiba's Garouga in Soutourou from could only dent it and not break it.

[hotnikkelz]

Hidden Ninja:
When i read through the manga post time skip. I still see naruto using a clone to do Rasengan, that's why i said what i said. Massive training or not, he still uses a clone. One clone to make the rasengan, another clone to make the fuuton -> rasen shuriken.
About the Sasuke neji issue. This is logistics i tihnk. If Sasuke at the time (who was nowhere as strong as he is now) was able to handle a 1 tail naruto, i assume that Neji can do the same NOW, at his current level. I think that's fair to say imo.


Pryce:
i didn't say neji > 4tk. What i was trying to put across is that he can at least contend vs a 1 tailed form at least. If Oro can't handle a 4tk i doubt Neji could either. At his level Kaiten should be strong enough to help him against a tailed form. That's my assumption.
Also in that sasuke naruto fight...that was a FULL one tail iirc.


I agree with kagenaruto on the Rashumon thing. I think for summons, once u get the object or creature you summoned, the strength will be the same regardless of summoner. Im other words Gamabunta would always be as strong if summoned by either the fourth, naruto, jiraiya. I assume the same applies for objects summoned.

[KageNaruto]

Future 1 tailed Naruto is different from Pre time skip 1 tailed Naruto.

Not to mention Sasuke had to go CS2 to stand a chance against 1TK Naruto.

[Pryce]

yeah kagenaruto already beat me to it but yeah when sasuke faced the 1 tailed naruto he was trying to stay at a long range not to mention the cs2 AND his sharingan which is one of the only reasons he was able to win that one

[Arty]

Im pretty disapointed with Neji.. I rly dno though.. we have yet to see his true strenght ^^.

[Drizzt_13]

yeah it woud be sweet to see neji do some awesome stuff, but what? he has a long range palm atack and he can't do more then seal all of your tenketsu (think that what they're called) so what more could he learn?

[darthpsykoz]

Hidden Ninja:
When i read through the manga post time skip. I still see naruto using a clone to do Rasengan, that's why i said what i said. Massive training or not, he still uses a clone. One clone to make the rasengan, another clone to make the fuuton -> rasen shuriken.
About the Sasuke neji issue. This is logistics i tihnk. If Sasuke at the time (who was nowhere as strong as he is now) was able to handle a 1 tail naruto, i assume that Neji can do the same NOW, at his current level. I think that's fair to say imo.


Pryce:
i didn't say neji > 4tk. What i was trying to put across is that he can at least contend vs a 1 tailed form at least. If Oro can't handle a 4tk i doubt Neji could either. At his level Kaiten should be strong enough to help him against a tailed form. That's my assumption.
Also in that sasuke naruto fight...that was a FULL one tail iirc.


I agree with kagenaruto on the Rashumon thing. I think for summons, once u get the object or creature you summoned, the strength will be the same regardless of summoner. Im other words Gamabunta would always be as strong if summoned by either the fourth, naruto, jiraiya. I assume the same applies for objects summoned.

no way!
naruto has kage level chakra with just tail-less kyuubu pre timeskip;
cos summoning gamabunta is a kage lvl feat.1t naruto can beat the crap out of neji from what i've seen.

also y doesnt naruto learn summoning properly?

[Hidden Ninja]

Hidden Ninja:
When i read through the manga post time skip. I still see naruto using a clone to do Rasengan, that's why i said what i said. Massive training or not, he still uses a clone. One clone to make the rasengan, another clone to make the fuuton -> rasen shuriken.
About the Sasuke neji issue. This is logistics i tihnk. If Sasuke at the time (who was nowhere as strong as he is now) was able to handle a 1 tail naruto, i assume that Neji can do the same NOW, at his current level. I think that's fair to say imo.


yes, initially he did. but when he appeared to fight kakuzu we did not see him use a bunshin to form the rasengan. he just had the rasengan in his hand, so it is quite the possibility that he is able to do it on his own.

also we don't know exactly what the three clones are doing when making the rasenshuriken.

you still say the whole sasuke can do it neji can too. which makes no sense...neji was not trained by a sannin, so it really makes no sense to say that neji has the capability to do so.

[FerN]

what hotnikkelz tried to say was that neji now is stronger than sasuke pre-time skip which i think is a fair assumption. But I think that naruto 1tk form is also better than it was pre-time skip.

[darthpsykoz]

what hotnikkelz tried to say was that neji now is stronger than sasuke pre-time skip which i think is a fair assumption. But I think that naruto 1tk form is also better than it was pre-time skip.

no way!
neji cud beat pre-timeskip sasuke without the cs

[Gabe Rod]

yup he could neji is the man and naruto could beat any of the rookie nine or genin other than shikamaru.

[darthpsykoz]

yup he could neji is the man and naruto could beat any of the rookie nine or genin other than shikamaru.

rock lee with 5 gates cud possibly finish naruto b4 he knows what hit him, naruto after all has less defence than gaara.

But then again naruto has amazing endurance , so u cud never say for sure...

[Gabe Rod]

maybe that is true I forgot about lee and his 5 gates. Well he could summon gamabunta and make gamabunta stick out his tongue and stay in there until lee is tired. Nice defence.

[10sarg]

can someone tell me the chapter were abouts lee mentions he can open 5 gates?

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

lately 5 gates have been the answer to every single vs discussion...overated and annoying.

[Uchiha Adrian]

my favourite char by a mile and he wudda owned sasuke in chuunin exams, but doubt he'd win now thanks kishi i hate u :)

[regina777]

Neji Fan Art by metalAnime

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/7066/narutoch187p01copy6es.jpg (http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/7066/narutoch187p01copy6es.jpg)

More fan art to come. One added to the first post.

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

Good fan art regina, keep them coming, neji rocks :D

[regina777]

Good fan art regina, keep them coming, neji rocks :D


yOu should search for fan art too- if it interests you.

[NoOne]

I'm just wondering, since the Byakugan and Sharingan are related, can the Byakugan resist the genjustu from a sharingan user? :confused:

[regina777]

I'm just wondering, since the Byakugan and Sharingan are related, can the Byakugan resist the genjustu from a sharingan user? :confused:


very good question - i am having a hard time finding a good answer to this.

Even Kakashi with sharingan couldnt escape the effects of the highly advanced genjutsu that MS generates. Will byakugan be able to escape?

i have to think about this further. But not now.

[NoOne]

very good question - i am having a hard time finding a good answer to this.

Even Kakashi with sharingan couldnt escape the effects of the highly advanced genjutsu that MS generates. Will byakugan be able to escape?

i have to think about this further. But not now.


Yeah, i was trying to find it somewhere but i have no idea where to look.
Thanks for helping me look, because if it does resist it, then Neji probably could be able to beat Sasuke (at least before the timeskip)

[DonEmu]

very good question - i am having a hard time finding a good answer to this.

Even Kakashi with sharingan couldnt escape the effects of the highly advanced genjutsu that MS generates. Will byakugan be able to escape?

i have to think about this further. But not now.


Yeah, i was trying to find it somewhere but i have no idea where to look.
Thanks for helping me look, because if it does resist it, then Neji probably could be able to beat Sasuke (at least before the timeskip)

But i think now that kakashi has MS, he can resist Tsukiyomi. So i wonder about th Byakugan.

Note: Even if Neji is immune to Tsukiyomi(which i am not sure) i still dont see how that would mean he could beat sasuke or itachi from just that fact.

[Kyuubi No Yoko]

Well thats a fight that i would PPV either neji vs itachi or sasuke. neji seems to have developed a more advanced fighting style, even at mid to long range (im not sure how long but its not only close combat anymore) in the manga he hits kisame from very far away, and on the latest game narutimate accel (i know this is not a reliable source for makign this statement) he does a 64 hits from the range he hit kisame without having to even touch the opponent (this could be a possibility seeing how he hit kisame on the manga) not to mention he has been under the training of Hiashi-sama. and he as all shinobi must have a chakra nature wich he could apply to his style or ninjutsus... IMO he would win against sasuke. but itachi is just sick he is on his own league

[Arty]

=/ I fancy Sasuke over Itachi in these matters... Cant the Byakugan eyes see through genjitsu ?

Since Sasuke seems to be quite good in all ways of fighting i vote for him rather than Itachi when it comes to fighting Neji... Anyhow i doubt he could match those two.. yes he is a genius and he could be a great ninja someday :) but i still think the Uchiha brothers Sasuke and Itachi are a bit above him in terms of talent.

But.. Since i fancy his hairstyle and all.. i have to say that I prefer him over Shikamaru to be Naruto's "backup buddy"...

[steve]

I have a feeling that Byakugan, as the root of Sharingan, has alot more to it then we know, or rather, Kishimoto hasn't developed yet. I guess Sasuke being a main character, SHOULD be stronger then Neji, a secondary. But I like Neji more, and would like to see a full out Neji vs Sasuke battle some day.

[oipotty]

maybe the sharingan varies directly w/ the byakugan.
if the sharingan has a dark purpose, the byakugan is the key to destroying the dark purpose

[Gabe Rod]

I don't know all I know is that I would love to have the byakugan. I think that the sharingan is better because you can predit the persons moves but byakugan is also cool. I think that Neji will take it to another level like sharingan and the ms.

[y.o.]

1st off byakugan cant see through genjutsu, and sharingan was believed to have come from byakugan cause it was the oldest known doujutsu from konoha!!

And I personnally like neji too, but I dont think he has a snowballs chance in hell of defeating either of the uchiha brothers!!

[Gabe Rod]

Wait I never said he could beat them I just said that he might be able to take the byakugan to a different level like itachi and his ms. I think that byakugan is really good but like I said not as good as sharingan. Also y.o were you talking to me or not? Sorry I was just wondering.

[Omaki_Roku]

1st off byakugan cant see through genjutsu, and sharingan was believed to have come from byakugan cause it was the oldest known doujutsu from konoha!!

And I personnally like neji too, but I dont think he has a snowballs chance in hell of defeating either of the uchiha brothers!!

since when couldnt the Byakugen see through Genjitsu?

if you are refering to when he fought naruto and couldnt tell which one was he, then your wrong because the Kagebushin is not a Genjitsu technique.