SONY SHOCK: PS3 PLANS LAID BARE!

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SONY SHOCK: PS3 PLANS LAID BARE!

SCEE President drops bombshell: two versions of PS3 planned, broadband distribution model revealed

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20:40 SCEE President and COO David Reeves has
made astonishing remarks on his company's plans for the next generation of console hardware, in a revealing interview posted on the official PlayStation website.
With Microsoft having unveiled its software-driven strategy for next-gen at last week's GDC, Reeves revealed incredible plans for the future of PlayStation, setting the scene for a thrilling battle which will see the two rivals fight it out from markedly different strategic positions.

On the subject of PSP, Reeves suggested that games on Sony's forthcoming PSP handheld will be region free - that is, a title purchased in one territory, like Europe, would be playable on a machine from another territory, such as Japan. No suprises there.

It seems that PSP movies will likely remain region protected however, although this is yet to be confirmed.

Speaking on the potential of PSP's movie playback functionality, Reeves said: "I think they [the movie distributors] will come up with quite a few surprises, so that you'd want to buy a movie on UMD as well as having it on DVD. Maybe."

Now for the real meat. Speaking on Sony's next generation home console, Reeves said: "There might be a normal PS3 for gamers, who just want to play the movies and have better games," he commented, suggesting that a "home server" version of the PlayStation 3, "maybe with a hard disk drive", could retail for "whatever it might be, 600 or 700 Euros."

A standalone games machine could obviously be sold at a more competitive price, with Reeves using the example of those gamers who would prefer to "pay 200 Euros for a new generation games machine".

Two versions of PS3? A gaming version retailing for 150, and a 'deluxe' version for over 400, designed to be integrated into a home entertainment set-up? Sweet Jesus, the war is on.

Talking about the coming E3 presentation in May, Reeves hinted that the PSX and PSP might not be the only new products to be showcased.

"Something we haven't talked about, is that we made a change from PlayStation to PSone, so we may, in the course of time, make some cosmetic changes to PlayStation 2 and come out with something that's a little bit sexier, but probably no changes to specs or anything like that."

Sony has already registered "PStwo" as a trademark.

Reeves spoke further on PSP, disputing the comparison between Sony's forthcoming handheld and Nintendo's long established GBA. "It's not, as people have said, a new Game Boy," he said. "There are so many other features that you can add onto it."

Reeves also confirmed that the PSP has had its memory capacity boosted; the PSP "will have 30MB of RAM, now, which it didn't have before." ( )

Talking up the power of the handheld, Reeves suggested the PSP was a potential PS2-beater. "I think what Phil [Harrison - head of Sony's London studios] would say is that people who get an early start - probably someone like Square - will take it beyond PS2," he claimed.

Crucially Reeves also mentioned Sony's "ultimate goal" for PlayStation 3: "To get into electronic broadband distribution". By 2006, when Reeves anticipates that all of Sony's currently in-development hardware products should be available, Sony hopes users will have always available online access along with viable broadband distribution.

"It's going to have to be 2Mb or 3Mb, something like that," he said. "Ken [Kutaragi]'s even talking about 30MB! And when it gets to that, then it is broadband distribution, and people then can just download whatever game they want. But it's got to be secure, and that's where DNAS [Sony's online security protocol] comes in."

This massive statement has huge potential ramifications for the industry at large and is likely to cause a storm among retailers, with the suggestion that Sony plans eventually to sell its games as downloads, cutting overheads, cutting out the middle men and, ultimately, cutting the cost to the consumer.

We suggest taking a long, deep breath and thinking about all that for a moment.

We contacted Sony Europe for clarification of the above key issues: a spokesperson had no initial comment and said they would get back to us, but no response to our enquirires had been received at the time of writing. The original interview, which is believed to have been posted up to two weeks ago on Sony's Irish PlayStation site, has now been removed, fuelling speculation that it was posted by mistake, resulting in a massive leak.

Microsoft says the next-generation is about software not hardware; for Sony the opposite could well be true. Either way, gamers may well have a choice between two clearly disctinct options come the release of Xbox 2 and PS3. The fight is on.




Great.....what's in the far future. Xbox 3 will just be a card you can plug into your PCI slot in your computer. OR better yet...game companies will merge with motherboard makers and create the GCCI port (Game console card Interface).

... omfg... PS3 is going to pwn.... that is all i have to say, and of course im hitting that deluxe shit :)

[thompkinsbrian]

deluxe for me too

[Dweezil]

deluxe seems to be the way to go

[timeformydeath]

Wow reading about the PS3 makes me wait in anticipation for the PS3, but as always there will be many going um :( its been out in Japan for 6 months... when are they releasing it in the U.S. A nation of gamers wait and when or if it does get released whoa!!! people are going to envy those with PS3 like they won the lottery and the price of the PS3 may shoot out to 200%-300% of the price online and yes they will still be hard to get. I still say that PS2 is the best system now because of games. Although you probably want to get the deluxe if it will exist you will probably have to reserve it for like 3+ months to get it out. Today in Japan they have stuff we won't get for 6 months - 1 1/2 years I mean just look at the cell phones. I am barely thinking about the XBox2 I forgot about that it may even come into creation since the PS3.

PS3!!!

[WildWolfay]

god dammit another console...

WTF?!?!?!?

Silly people who keep upgradings your consoles: Just upgrade your damn computer!!!

I don't plan on getting a PS3, i'll stich with PS2 and GC for a while.

[Shukaku]

the price is a bit much, but it's worth it i think

[Pervyshinin]

damn i got the chills thats badass......i agree lots of money but still thats going to be a keeper....man.
how handheld games have progressed.....

[h4x0r]

More news:

Following news regarding Nintendo and Microsoft’s consoles-to-come, it has been indirectly confirmed that Sony plans to launch the PS3 in March 2006. During its E3 Conference, Nonuyeki Idei - Chairman of Sony - had announced that the new CELL processor technology would be in action by that point in time. It is now definite that the next-gen Playstation will be the first manifestation of this new chip. Therefore, it can safely be assumed that this indicates the official PS3 release date.

Further hints have suggested other interesting plans for this new CELL technology. Sony also hopes to incorporate it into its television sets in order to facilitate web-browsing and assorted media playback. In similar vein to Microsoft, the Japanese electronics giant seems to be making concerted efforts towards ‘technological convergence’. If the PS3, the new CELL based TV's and the PSP can all be linked together in a wi-fi-enabled orgy of innovation, then Sony could have the power to take over your living room completely.

Given that Nintendo will be showing its next-gen offering at E3 2005, it is expected that Sony too will be displaying its preliminary wares at this time. Stay posted for further details as they unfurl.

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[Onikage-sama]

oh geez...i gotta go change my pants.

[Kitsuki]

hmm dont know which will be better this or xboox 2

I think ill have to wait till they'e both ot before making a judgement. Ohh and just to be diffrent xbox 2 beats it on release date its christams 2005

[AnimeHentaiBaka]

Can someone please explain the Basics of Ps3? I dont really want to read all of it

[L2Mc]

as it sounds now, proffesional technology price speculators have stated the way the PS3 is right now, it will cost 500 dollars.

[Mr. SmartyPants]

oh brother... why keep making new consoles? there fine already! just start learning how to make better games

[Godfish]

i just wanna see the price its gonna be ere in auz land cuz everything is sooo much more expensive i am a comp man all the way cause consoles are just too easy to break and there are other factors but the PS3 might be alrite

[Fei Fong Wong]

... imagine how friggen' awesome Final Fantasy 13 (probably 14, though) would look when it's made for the PS3...

[naraku_99]

ps3 will rock my ass

[MDFreak]

Console's need to be updated to stay with up to date technoligy, and it is needed or companys will stop making so much money...new system, more buyers, same system eventualy they run out...and games get to complicated for current systems so they need to update...and PS3 does sound friggen awesome, i have a subscription to ps2mag so i read about it every month, so many games i want to play on it, KH2, MKD...They will be out for PS2 i know, but yea, i still want it badly:>

[ColdFire]

so they will have a ps3 with a whole bunch of features for aot of money, and one that only plays games for alot cheaper?

[mitchmoore]

so then i suppose that there are no current pictures for the PS3?? I guess that they are still kinda developing it.............

[Hatake_Kakashi]

I think Ill wait a little while for the price to go down. The way it sounds itll probably get sold out pretty quick.

[thompkinsbrian]

wait a little while? like when it becomes obselete?

took PS2 over 4 years to make a significant drop in price and it is still well over 100.00. price isnt gonna drop that much, cept maybe the delux version. by the time it does start dropping the new xbox will be out and they will prolly be designing the next level of PS

[Konrow]

i hate posts like this.. they make me want the freakin console so badly!!! omg PS3 will rock! Can't wait for it. I just hope they don't decide to realease some games like KH2 a little later so it can be for PS3. I usually get consoles by reserving a copy or getting them about 4-6 months after they come out. Yea i'm weird, anyway iw ant the PS3! i'm happy that it might actually come out in spring 2006.

[kingtz]

This massive statement has huge potential ramifications for the industry at large and is likely to cause a storm among retailers, with the suggestion that Sony plans eventually to sell its games as downloads, cutting overheads, cutting out the middle men and, ultimately, cutting the cost to the consumer.

I don't agree with that. Downloading games will definitely cut their overhead and middlemen but it will not cut costs for us consumers, all it'll do is raise SONY's profits. Just looks at what VALVE is doing with their STEAM. Even if we download Half Life2 on STEAM, they still charge $49.99. The same price you would pay at a retailer.

[King Vamp]

I was wondering how much it will cost I herd rumors that it was going to be $1,000. Is that true?

[Solace]

I was wondering how much it will cost I herd rumors that it was going to be $1,000. Is that true?


Vamp dont believe them
The Sony PS3 console will be around $350 dollars (50 more from PS2's first release, and the Xbox 360 will range around $400)

Itd be worth $1000 if they gave you a good size television with it and a sorround sound, lolz :wink:

[Hayabusa]

I don't really like the PS3.... Go Xbox360!!!!!

Here are some concepts of the PS3:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b106/gw925/gaystation.png

[ColdFire]

Pfft, xbox blows.

Oh ya, xbox 360 price is confirmed at $399, PS3's will be between $299 and $399. PS3 does cost more to make, they expect to lose over a billion $ on the consoles in the first year.

[Hayabusa]

Pfft, xbox blows.

Oh ya, xbox 360 price is confirmed at $399, PS3's will be between $299 and $399. PS3 does cost more to make, they expect to lose over a billion $ on the consoles in the first year.

Which means that they'll probably either:
1) raise the price

or 2) go bankrupt

which is all good news for the xbox360! :D

[ColdFire]

Nah. I checked and it was $1.1 billion loss in the first year. That was only from the systems though, everything else will have normal prices, so they will make quite a bit of that back, even in the first year.

And if ps3 and 360 are the same price, then who wouldnt buy the ps3...you get more bang for your buck :p

[Hayabusa]

There are two packages for the 360, a $300 package which contains less features than the $400 package. Here are the specs:

Xbox 360 Core System - $299 (299 Euros, 209 GBP)
•Xbox 360 console
•Wired controller
•Detachable faceplate
•Xbox Live Silver membership
•Standard AV cables


Xbox 360 - $399 (399 Euros, 279 GBP)
•Xbox 360 console
•20GB detachable hard drive
•Wireless controller
•Wireless Xbox Live headset
•High-definition AV cables
•Ethernet cable
•Xbox 360 Media Remote Control (limited time)
•Detachable faceplate
•Xbox Live Silver membership

[DBZWarrior6582]

ok for those of you who are worried about game realeases don't be. the PS3 is projected to come out fall of 2006. games will not be held back for a yaer to release with ps3 when they are already set to come out for christmas or spring. KH2 comes out December 1st as well as many other great games that we are all waiting on. sony hopes to make enough money from christmas sales this winter so they can conpinsate for the loses the will have with PS3 sales. so no worries on the home front with games waiting for ps3 release.

also interesting is that Halo 3 will debute the same time as PS3 in hopes that Microsoft will beat sony in the 2006 fall and winter sales bracket. I don't think Halo 3 will beat PS3 sales, what about you guys.

[L2Mc]

well here in America, I feel that the release of Halo 3 will do enough damage to PS3 for microsoft to feel successful. Since the PS3 has no slated killer app at launch (at the moment) the Xbox 360 and Halo 3 could definately capitilize sales. Only time will tell though, the fall 2006 date for the PS3 is just projected, it may still take much longer.

[DBZWarrior6582]

thats true. and i live in America about 2 hours north of you in Scranton, Pa. but currently I'm at school in NewHamshire.

[Hayabusa]

The PS3 will be crushed by the 360! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

I hope Temco make a Ninja Gaiden 2 for the 360, that'd be my Halo 3 ^^!

[DBZWarrior6582]

Dude niether system will be better. they both will have almost the exact same specs. so you can be religious to your Xbox but niether system will be better, it just preference.

[ColdFire]

^Yep, comes down to personal preference, and games. PS3 does have more succesful titles, because they have more 3rd party companys, which is why I think it will do better. Xbox really only has Halo for a hit game...no one ever mentions any others.

And FF VII remade on the ps3 would be a nice contender to Halo 3....FF VII is in any RPG'ers top 5. But then again, 2 completely different genres, so they cant be compared.

[Hayabusa]

Dude niether system will be better. they both will have almost the exact same specs. so you can be religious to your Xbox but niether system will be better, it just preference.

I wasn't saying that the 360 had better specs than the PS3; I was just agreeing with L2Mc's post:

well here in America, I feel that the release of Halo 3 will do enough damage to PS3 for microsoft to feel successful. Since the PS3 has no slated killer app at launch (at the moment) the Xbox 360 and Halo 3 could definately capitilize sales. Only time will tell though, the fall 2006 date for the PS3 is just projected, it may still take much longer.

[L2Mc]

(for those still confused, FFVII is not being remade for PS3 it was just a tech demo)--------disclaimer for ColdFire's post

PS3 will sell because of the predefined install base on the PS2. I think it actually has less to do with third parties. it's more name these days, i.e., people see "Sony" and think "High-End Entertainment Equipment!" As far as third party games on PS2, what do people buy? MGS, Devil May Cry, Onimusha, Dynasty Warriors, Jak, GTA (which appears on Xbox and PC), Ratchet, Nis AM rpg/turn based strategy games, GT, Tekken, and Square-Enix RPGs. When you think about those the third party support isn't that big of a deal. Usually the systems best selling games come out on other systems. In looking at IGN this week, the game of the month for PS2 was The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction, followed by Madden (Both of which came out on GC and Xbox). On the 'Cube it was WWE: Day of Reckoning 2 (an exclusive), and on Xbox it was MotoGP 3: Ultimate Racing Technology (which is also availible on PC). I mean, besides KH2 and FFXII, I'm having trouble naming a big PS2 exclusive game that's coming out.

So, while for us we may say it's the third party support or the games, I definately think it's the name more than anything.

[DBZWarrior6582]

that is true but your forgeting about all the old games that are being remade. they are remaking old clasics like Area 51 and shinobie for the playstation and not for xbox or pc. sony has alot of partner ships that will get them extremely far in the gaming industry, especially with the old game names coming out to be big again.

[L2Mc]

well... somewhat true, in the case of rygar and contra games. but Area 51 was on Xbox and PC as well, and Ninja Gaiden was better than Shinobi. It's a real toss up haha.

[Hayabusa]

(for those still confused, FFVII is not being remade for PS3 it was just a tech demo)--------disclaimer for ColdFire's post


Actually its still not official on whether the FFVII is a tech demo or not. Don't be confused with the name, there's still much evidence that supports Square Enix making a full remake, then again theres as much evidence supporting the tech demo idea. Its a toss up!

[L2Mc]

actually... the video says "Techincal Demo"... so there is no toss up. If they are remaking it, they will announce it. Until then it's a tech demo, like everything else on the PS3 currently.

[ColdFire]

(for those still confused, FFVII is not being remade for PS3 it was just a tech demo)--------disclaimer for ColdFire's post


Actually its still not official on whether the FFVII is a tech demo or not. Don't be confused with the name, there's still much evidence that supports Square Enix making a full remake, then again theres as much evidence supporting the tech demo idea. Its a toss up!

And there is a TON of contraversy on the whole subject. Chances are their will be a remake, mostly because FFVI is one of the top sellers for the PS1. Remaking it would bring in a ton of sales.

And square never denied it. In fact, since they didnt deny it, the chances of the game being made are much higher. Everything in this gaming realm is worded very carefully. Square didnt deny it, and why wouldnt they if it wouldnt happen? People think they wont announce it because saying FFVI remake will come out would possibly take sales or hype away from their upcoming games, eg. KH2, FF XII, and so on. Someone on IGN or something said something along these lines "If they made this technical demo, they do in fact have a game engine. And why would they spend all that time making that just to make a little tech demo?"....not exactly what he said, just how I remember it.

[L2Mc]

why would sony go through all the trouble to make a bs presentation of what there system "can do"?

To create hype.

[ColdFire]

Which they did. But if it really came out, then it would create a hell of a lot more hype. If it isnt made, I really wouldnt understand....I mean it would sell alot..guaranteed.

[DiGiTaL-X]

i have heard that microsoft has said that the goal of the 360 is to compete with ps2 and not ps3 so we might say that the ps3 is going to crush 360 into dust :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

but im sereous its gonna rock:D

[ShadowofShikamaru]

i doubt 360 is trying to compete with ps2 but it might as well cuz I'm the only 2 consoles im buying are revolution and ps3 only cuz i don't play sports games :P .

[DiGiTaL-X]

not me neither ^^

[KageNaruto]

same here. by the way its obvious ps3 wont be able to play imported games, so will there be a mod for it like with ps2? cause i would relly wanna be able to play imported games wen i get a ps3 (have 400$ saved up already)

[Hades]

pft consoles suck ballz any way they are stupid, the games on them are crap compared to PC any and the games on consoles game play wise are just so behind pc.

im never buying a console again last one i had was N64 lol PC are just so much better their faster bigger better graphics and you can do ANYthing with them and any good games on console that might even be woth playing, you can play on PC either be it a PC version of the game or you get an emulator:S

+ games shared across platforms alwase seem to be better on pc like halo was way better gameplay on pc than xbox and i think every game i have played on console that i have also played on pc were WAY better on pc

[KageNaruto]

hades u cant be more wrong^^, but ill let u have ur satisfaction

[Hades]

im not wrong i have played every console and i have played pc and pc graphix and game play is sooo much better

every thing you can do on any other gadget can be done on a pc so why would you bother wasting money.

the main thing i hate about consoles is they alwase put the graphics higher than they can handle and you get some frame rate drops and graphics lag that pisses me off so much

[imported_Greenlitflag]

pft consoles suck ballz any way they are stupid, the games on them are crap compared to PC any and the games on consoles game play wise are just so behind pc.

im never buying a console again last one i had was N64 lol PC are just so much better their faster bigger better graphics and you can do ANYthing with them and any good games on console that might even be woth playing, you can play on PC either be it a PC version of the game or you get an emulator:S

+ games shared across platforms alwase seem to be better on pc like halo was way better gameplay on pc than xbox and i think every game i have played on console that i have also played on pc were WAY better on pc

Uhh, okay...

[imported_partlink1]

okay people as of right now the xbox360 has no competiton because it's basicly done being sold because,anyone who was going to get one already has one, and those that want to get one will wait 2 years or more for the price to drop

and microsoft is releasing halo 3 to compete with the ps3 (almost same release date late spring)


so just thought i'd help get somewhat back on track

[ColdFire]

Of course the 360 has no competition right now...no other consoles are out yet, but when they are out, they will likely sell as many, or more than 360.

[Bap]

Well, i'd say the competition is coming from the other current consoles. Its not like the 360 is sweeping hte world. I know many, and myself, would rather stick to our current console or PC than buy the 360

[sprtn]

The 360 pwns the pc right now.

[Hellchild915]

Here it is now I have to wait till Nov.

TOKYO (Reuters) - Sony Corp. (6758.T) will delay the release of its new PlayStation 3 video game console until early November because development of some of the technology is behind schedule, Japanese newspapers said on Wednesday.
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Sony's shares fell 1.6 percent after the reports, which said consumer electronics makers and movie companies have been unable to reach agreement on the copy protection technology for Blu-ray Disc drives. The PS3 will use such a drive.

The PS3 launch date has been the subject of heavy speculation in the industry as expectations are high for the machine, which will have cutting-edge technology and is expected to enable users to play games and movies as well as download videos from the Internet.

"It's now a full year behind
Xbox which is a concern," said KBC Securities analyst Hiroshi Kamide, referring to rival Microsoft Corp.'s (Nasdaq:MSFT - news) Xbox 360 video game console.

Sony is expected to announce the delay at a briefing for software licencees at 3 p.m. (0600 GMT) on Wednesday, which it opened up to media and analysts at the last minute.

Most analysts were not surprised by the reports as they had expected the PS3 to be delayed until late summer or autumn.

Sony currently has about 70 percent of the global market for game consoles, but some analysts have said it could lose as much as 20 percentage points to Microsoft, which is making an aggressive push to increase its 15 percent share.

If the PS3 is delayed until November, it will go head-to head with Nintendo Co. Ltd.'s (7974.OS) next-generation Revolution console, which is expected to hit markets around the same time.

Nintendo also has about a 15 percent market share.

A Sony spokesman in the United States said the PS3 was still slated for a spring 2006 launch, but the company warned last month that the launch could be pushed back if industry specifications for some of its technology weren't finalized soon.

Andy Parsons, a U.S. spokesman for the Blu-Ray Disc Association industry group, denied any problems with the copy protection technology.

"As far as we are concerned, everything's on track," he said.

KBC's Kamide pointed out that the reported delay of the PS3 also has negative implications for Japanese software developers, many of whom rely on the popularity of the PlayStation to drive revenues.

"There's nothing in the first half of the year and the install base in the second half will be so small it will have no material impact for earnings at all," he said. "This is going to be a horrendous year."

Analysts expect the PS3 to be launched for about $500 almost simultaneously in the U.S. and Japan with an initial line up of at least five to 10 games.

Sony shares fell to 5,480 yen at the close of morning trade. The electric machinery index (.IELEC.T) was up 0.3 percent and the Nikkei average was up 0.48 percent.

(Additional reporting by Sue Zeidler and Lisa Baertlein in Los Angeles and Daisuke Wakabayashi in Seattle)

[Maverick Viper]

We've got official details finally!



March 15, 2006 - Sony Computer Entertainment's answer to Xbox Live is at last coming into light. While previous comments from company executives were unclear on the matter, company president Ken Kutaragi today assured members of the press, 3rd party companies and investors that the PS3 would be seeing a service similar to Microsoft's.


The service, which is currently going under the working name of "PlayStation Network Platform," will see its service kick off at the PS3 launch in November. Basic service will be free of charge initially, although it should be noted that Kutaragi did not comment on what exactly constitutes "basic service." Business will take place on the open internet, suggesting that the service will be more open than Xbox Live.
The service will offer full support for Online title development, providing necessary functions and services for commerce and community. Sony made note of some of the major features that all Online titles will be able to access:

Communication/Community:
Voice/Video chat
Messaging
Lobby/Matchmaking
Score/Ranking
Friend list/Avatar
Game data upload/download

Commerce:
Shop (accessible from inside games)
Content Download
Micro Payment
Subscription
Entitlement (user access rights) management

Account:
User Registration
Login ID/Handling of name issues

Sony didn't announce an Xbox Arcade style game download system, but it did state that games will be bootable from the hard disk, noting this as part of the commerce opportunities for the system.

Sony Computer Entertainment will take care of investment and operation of a commonly used infrastructure. However, SCE will be allowing licensees to connect their own game servers to the network. SCE's network, with data centers throughout the world, is being developed in conjunction with Sony Online Entertainment

Also....

TOKYO--Today at the 2006 PlayStation Business Briefing in Tokyo, Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutagari made it official--the PlayStation 3 has been delayed. The news confirmed widely circulated Japanese newspaper reports, which said that the delay was due to copyright-protection problems with the next-generation console's Blu-ray drive. For his part, Kutaragi would only say the delay was due to "Blu-ray spec finalization."

Kutaragi told the crowd at the event that the PS3 would now launch in November 2006 worldwide. That dispelled fears that the console would make it to Japan in time by the fall, but would miss the all-important holiday shopping season in the US and Europe. In fact, Kutaragi explicitly told the crowd of game retailers and journalists present that the PS3 would arrive before Thanksgiving in all territories.

Besides the delay, Kutaragi also made official another widely reported aspect of the PS3. He said that Sony is indeed preparing an Xbox Live-like online gaming service for the console, which would be called the "PlayStation Network Platform." Though he was short on specifics, the executive did say that currently Sony planned the service to be "free."

While the simultaneous tri-territory PS3 scheme may sound much like Microsoft's international launch of the Xbox 360, Sony plans to avoid the shortages that befell its competitor. Kutaragi said that the company plans on producing at least one million units of the console each month in order to keep the supply channel full. He said the goal was to ship 6 million PS3s worldwide by March 2007.

[UPDATE] The SCE president also told the crowd that the PS3 would use a 60GB 2.5" hard disc drive (HDD). A slide show during the presentation said the HDD would will be loaded with the Linux operating system versus Microsoft's Windows OS. The show also said it could be used as a "home server" and be directly connected to the Internet, and be full "upgradeable."

Kutaragi also made it clear that the hard drive will be necessary to play games--Sony is telling developers to make games assuming every PS3 has a hard drive installed. "We view the Hard Drive to be mandatory for the PS3," he said. "Rather than have developers create games for the PS3 with or without the HDD, we will be asking them to develop games as though all PS3s have the HDD installed."

However, Kutaragi revealed that Sony had not decided whether or not the PlayStation 3 would come with the hard-drive pre-installed. "We might end up installing it in all PS3s, though that depends on the market," he said. This raises the possibility that the PS3 could be sold without a piece of hardware needed to play PS3 games--in effect forcing consumers to buy a peripheral for basic functionality.

Kutaragi also said that PS3 games would be released only on Blu-ray discs, as DVDs have become too easy for software pirates to duplicate. The high-capacity format is capable of storing around 50GB on a single disc. Sony reps confirmed the PS3 will still play DVDs and CDs, as well as PS2 and PSone discs, as previously announced.

Can't wait to see their online service in action. :)

[The G.O.A.T]

Have All Forgotten What THe PC was for you. THe GOAT is appauled by display of affection to such a Console. Do you not know that it Was PC and PS. And why is "The Good Stuff" going to such console.

[deco]

Have All Forgotten What THe PC was for you. THe GOAT is appauled by display of affection to such a Console. Do you not know that it Was PC and PS. And why is "The Good Stuff" going to such console.

First off... PC games aren't very good. Not only that... but the way PC games are going, you buy a new pc, 1 year later it isn't good anymore. And buddy you're not the G.O.A.T... you probably just do them.

About the ps3...Wow it looks great... but I'm afraid the 600$ price tag is a little too hefty for the average gamer. I think we're going to see a lot of playstation gamers moving to the wii until the price of the ps3 goes down. It looks good, however there aren't many games that look like absolute buys. FFXIII which will probably be released in 2008, and Metal Gear Solid are the 2 games that wowed me. Also the fact that you can't rent games anymore with the bluray means no renting, And no renting means more buying, and more buying means it's going to cost a lot of money...

[deco]

Have All Forgotten What THe PC was for you. THe GOAT is appauled by display of affection to such a Console. Do you not know that it Was PC and PS. And why is "The Good Stuff" going to such console.

First off... PC games aren't very good. Not only that... but the way PC games are going, you buy a new pc, 1 year later it isn't good anymore. And buddy you're not the G.O.A.T... you probably just do them.

About the ps3...Wow it looks great... but I'm afraid the 600$ price tag is a little too hefty for the average gamer. I think we're going to see a lot of playstation gamers moving to the wii until the price of the ps3 goes down. It looks good, however there aren't many games that look like absolute buys. FFXIII which will probably be released in 2008, and Metal Gear Solid are the 2 games that wowed me.

[The G.O.A.T]

You Fool! "You Get What You Paid For" This is the difference between the two.
And what do you mean "Pc Games Ain't That Good "Tell Me, One Who Dreams Of Doing goats", Is F.E.A.R (The greatest FPS For it's time) on PS2? Is Doom3(The greatest FPS of ALL TIME) on PS2?
And let's not forget The Greater Heroes:

World Of Warcraft or any Other Warcraft
NeverWinterNights
Command & Conquer: Generals
Counter Strike
Half-Life 2
Are These Few Heroes On PS2?

Plus "Wiper" upgradings PC's Are As Expensive as buying a PS2 And Games

[CRtwenty]

So basically they're taking notes from the 360, and releasing two systems? I'll probably get the Deluxe Version... I'm guessing it'll probably retail at about $500. Which, considering what you're getting is a fair price imo. I also plan to wait... first generation systems usually have bugs. So the price might drop a tad by the time I get a system.

Course, I feel a little bad for the little kiddies who'll have to ask their parents to buy it for them.

[imported_Greenlitflag]

So basically they're taking notes from the 360, and releasing two systems? I'll probably get the Deluxe Version... I'm guessing it'll probably retail at about $500. Which, considering what you're getting is a fair price imo. I also plan to wait... first generation systems usually have bugs. So the price might drop a tad by the time I get a system.

Course, I feel a little bad for the little kiddies who'll have to ask their parents to buy it for them.

Deluxe is 600$

[ColdFire]

If I get any system its ps3. Screw all else, it had Tony Hawk Project 8, so that beats down all other games lol. Wii's getting a TH game, but its more like a racing game, so thats gay.

[imported_Greenlitflag]

If I get any system its ps3. Screw all else, it had Tony Hawk Project 8, so that beats down all other games lol. Wii's getting a TH game, but its more like a racing game, so thats gay.

Project 8 is multi-platform..

[KageNaruto]

the ps3's "no applause" at E3, the lame controller, the system being horible overpriced, all these things turned me off. im totally screwing the PS# until they admit they were insane, and the deluxe price drops 100 bucks or more.

my motto: screw PS3, playing with wiis is much more fun

[ColdFire]

If I get any system its ps3. Screw all else, it had Tony Hawk Project 8, so that beats down all other games lol. Wii's getting a TH game, but its more like a racing game, so thats gay.

Project 8 is multi-platform..

But I'm so used to PS controllers for TH games, I could never switch off :P

[AK47]

http://cheatcc.com/ps3/ps3rd.html
all the upcoming games for ps3
GUNDAM IS GONNA BE OF DA CHAIN!!!!

[animeguy69]

ps3's two versions:

- PS3 with 20GB hard drive $499
- PS3 with 60GB hard drive $599 with some ethernet thingy or something

thats the confirmed price for PS3

- E3 2006
- Gamespot

[animeguy69]

you'll also see the new design for the ps3 controller at Gamespot

(looks like ps2 controller)

[Dorphuk]

My main problem with the ps3 is its stackability!!!

My current ps2 sits nicely onto of my video player with my dvd player and then my digi box on top. The ps3 looks like it will require some sort of re-enforced shelving uni which my pet alsation might confuse with his kennel because it has to be so frigging huge.

What really annoys me is that i KNOW sony will make a smaller version after about a year of original release. It really doesn't have to be that big.

I guess they are just trying to guarentee that it becomes your multi-unit hub type thing as you'll have to throw everything else out.

[traps]

why would sony need mmo's that do fine on PC?
the only thing that comes to mind for me is more money for the other companies, i dout that there will me alot of people playing the Selected mmo's on PS3.

games are 100$ so i hear.
Resistance looks decient btw

[imported_partlink1]

oh check ign for more details but the realease date has been stated

release is on November 17th
and the system will cost $400 for a 20 gig harddrive and 600 for a 60 gig hard drive

[Shino18]

what about game price

[imported_partlink1]

no idea

[KageNaruto]

oh check ign for more details but the realease date has been stated

release is on November 17th
and the system will cost $400 for a 20 gig harddrive and 600 for a 60 gig hard drive

400? what the hell are you smoking. its 500!

and dont say 100 is a lil difference

[imported_partlink1]

oh check ign for more details but the realease date has been stated

release is on November 17th
and the system will cost $400 for a 20 gig harddrive and 600 for a 60 gig hard drive

400? what the hell are you smoking. its 500!

and dont say 100 is a lil difference

yea ur right and i'm with you 100 does make a difference

oh and for those that live in europe its delayed for u till march 2007 srry

oh and games will be $60

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/733/733047p1.html

[lonewonder08]

Theres been a price drop for the PS3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


















In Japan! Man too bad I dont live there and its only for the 500 dollar one. But hey guys we get it first in America.

[AK47]

prices of games in canada are going to be $69.99
so in us probably like 80 bux

[imported_Cyraan]

I could care less of the price, I'm getting the 60gb one with Call of Duty 3 YAAAAA :twisted:

[NMK]

hm, as known it's very expensive so i think ill just wait out some time and wait for the price to drop, wich it certainly will

[Flyin]

No way, preordered already man! I'ma' gonna have it the day of release, and won't sleep for the following week most likely. The graphics on the console are amazing! And you can just put emulators on the harddrive and have any system/game you want! GREAT OR WHAT!!

[sk1939]

True, I dunno, I probably will get the 360 just to play Halo 3, beat it then sell it...I think the PS3 will be better by a long shot.

[Techno Dude]

oh yeah, thats the shit.

[Flyin]

Looks like if you wanna' play, just come see me. But you will have to pay.....
I wonder how hard it would be to put external drives onto it? Anybody know?

[Chidongan]

prices of games in canada are going to be $69.99
so in us probably like 80 bux

actually games are only like $60 here. ^^

[DonEmu]

yeah games are $60 dollars, the thing that is shocking me the most is square soft hinted that kingdom hearts 3 is gonna be multi genre

Seriously it would be smart to just buy the 60 gb version...cause upgrading ur $400 dollar model is much more expensive. i may get one just for mgs4, and maybe ff13, and if kh is decided to be only ps3 then that also, other than that i am not inspired. PC GAMES FOREVER!!!

[Chidongan]

from what i've heard, you cant upgrade your PS3, so the smart choice would be to buy the $600 one. >.>


Kingdome Hearts 3 FTW!!

[airstep]

Hmm. buy an out of date gaming system or the top of the line graphics card for the same price that doubles if not triples the performace of the PS3...tough choice.

Lol I saw a PS3 on ebay for $25,000 lol!!! I think i would rather buy a brand new Jeep commander or a dodge charger or 300C for that price. otherwise there are around 1500 to 3000 on ebay. i could buy 5 cars for that much and sell each car four around 1500$ making me about twice as much money but i dont feel like it. you know i'm lazy.

Well time for me to goto a store thats selling the PS3 and make fun of the people there waiting in line.

[DonEmu]

Hmm. buy an out of date gaming system or the top of the line graphics card for the same price that doubles if not triples the performace of the PS3...tough choice.

Lol I saw a PS3 on ebay for $25,000 lol!!! I think i would rather buy a brand new Jeep commander or a dodge charger or 300C for that price. otherwise there are around 1500 to 3000 on ebay. i could buy 5 cars for that much and sell each car four around 1500$ making me about twice as much money but i dont feel like it. you know i'm lazy.

Well time for me to goto a store thats selling the PS3 and make fun of the people there waiting in line.

u can say all u want about buying the graphics card, in the end there are some classic games that will never be out on the pc( final fantasy, kingdom hearts, metal gear solid)...so in the end owning a console and having a kickass pc is the choice...this isnt really either or...

[airstep]

u can say all u want about buying the graphics card, in the end there are some classic games that will never be out on the pc( final fantasy, kingdom hearts, metal gear solid)...so in the end owning a console and having a kickass pc is the choice...this isnt really either or...

personal preference.

classic games like FF or KH or MGS... ehh sure. Same with PC. there classics that Console dont have but PC does. Diablo, Age of Empires I-III, BF1942, or most recently Company of heroes(ok not a classic but still a kick ass game).

Behold my all and power PlayStation orginal(The big box one not that crappy PS1 little) Thats the only console i own well i suppose you could say the Super nintendo as well.

If only i could say that i had a hand in the delvoment of the PS3...Well my coworkers did, they designed some of the chips in the PS3, Xbox 360 and the Wii. I was a year late. And haha you can't blame me if something goes wrong!

I wished I was on the dev team for the Xbox 360 cause they got theres for free as part of a reward.

[Katzyn]

u can say all u want about buying the graphics card, in the end there are some classic games that will never be out on the pc( final fantasy, kingdom hearts, metal gear solid)...so in the end owning a console and having a kickass pc is the choice...this isnt really either or...
Some of the Final Fantasy games -are- already out on the pc, and have been for quite a few years. So really, who's to say those other games won't come out for the pc sometime?

[Azure Wrath]

yeah, but the FF pc conversions are not nearly as good as their PS counterparts. I've played ff7 on PC and PS. PS playes easier with the controller plus the PS version looks better, soudns better and doesn't have nearly as many bugs in it.

[Lukasz]

can't you emulate ps2 on pc?

I heard PS3 is built to serve for 10 years. This reason should justify the price. but in five years ps3 will be primitive and 4 times weaker than average pc.
I might get wii (if i get console at all, which is doubtful)

[DonEmu]

if u havent tried a ps2 emulator then dont suggest it, they are dreadful...it takes about 5 years for a decent working emulator for a console to appear, and by then they are already making plans for a new console.

And ya Kat-chan, they did make ff7 and 8 for the pc and the online version, all of which flopped compared to console sales.

Diablo - was on playstation1 both diablo 1 and 2
, Age of Empires I-III - 1 and 2 are also on console, they could easily make 3 for the current gen of consoles
, BF1942 - has plans for the xbox360
, or most recently Company of heroes - also scheduled for other consoles

If u had mentioned stuff like neverwinter nights , WoW and those mmorpg then u could have gotten an argument.

[Lukasz]

Im not suggesting. this was a question.

There is not much only PC games (except massivemultiplayer but this should change). Total War is for PC only.
But PC has steam which i love and more PC games will be available to download via it and its much better than buy a cd (no cd swaping, always you have the game, updates are automatic, old games are available for download)
consoles with mere 60 gb cannot have it.

[DonEmu]

em actually the new consoles do have upgrading of games and downloading, there are plans to actually allow download of movies onto ur 360 hard drive and ps3 hard drive and in the long run u can connect these consoles to a pc anyway...yeah there are some exclusive games for pc, my point is console gaming is sorta iconic, i mean i love some pc games but they are usually all kinda raw...

[airstep]

if u havent tried a ps2 emulator then dont suggest it, they are dreadful...it takes about 5 years for a decent working emulator for a console to appear, and by then they are already making plans for a new console.

And ya Kat-chan, they did make ff7 and 8 for the pc and the online version, all of which flopped compared to console sales.

Diablo - was on playstation1 both diablo 1 and 2
, Age of Empires I-III - 1 and 2 are also on console, they could easily make 3 for the current gen of consoles
, BF1942 - has plans for the xbox360
, or most recently Company of heroes - also scheduled for other consoles

If u had mentioned stuff like neverwinter nights , WoW and those mmorpg then u could have gotten an argument.

All planned but will flop because playing a stregty games on the console sucks, and i highly doubt that COH will be on Consoles.

They also had plans for the game X3 Reunion to be released for Xbox 360 but then turned out they didn't because the game was much to diffcult to be played on the console.

BF1942 on Xbox360... isn't BFMC enough just make a mod for it...oh wait, can you have mods on a Console...i guess you can't.

The only games i think worth playing on the consoles are the fighting games like Mortal combat, FF games, flying like Ace combat, and maybe some racing games. I hate playing FPS on console, controls too slugish. I think the only FPS game i've like on a console was Metal gear solid on the PS1

Why would i use NNW and WoW, those could easily be converted to the cosole, your only controling one character. Not that hard using the controls for a single character, much like FF.

[DonEmu]

Metal gear solid isnt an FPS?! and yes u can have mods for consoles....

[Azure Wrath]

wtf, since when was MGS a FPS? MGS2 had a touch of FPS in it...

anyway, i agree, im not a fan of strategy&FPS games for PS, nor am i a fan of racing&platform games on a PC. Which is why i have both :D

I don't like PS3's controllers, they look like crap. i prefer old PS2 controller

[DonEmu]

since there are no ports u cant use ur old controller, but i am sure some company would make a old style wireless controller for the ps3...

[.ZabuZa.]

hmm i thought the controllers are the same but updated with extras inside not ouside makin still seen like the same old ps2 controller idk though i havent held it in my hands yet :_:

[DonEmu]

well there was the boomerang controller, i didnt know they had changed it to look like the old style, its dual shock 3 right?!

[airstep]

Metal gear solid isnt an FPS?! and yes u can have mods for consoles....

You can have mods on Console(not the console itself) games? Sounds too troublesome to do.

you know, I think i have a controler that kind of looks like the PS3 controler for the PC, exept it somes off a joystick like a detachable.

[DonEmu]

i know the controller u are talking about, i really wanted one of those, and yes since ps3 has web browsers u can download mods just like on a pc...

[Azure Wrath]

last isaw the boomeragn controller looked damn ugly

[Chidongan]

last isaw the boomeragn controller looked damn ugly

what?!? i thought it looked better than the original controller.

anyways, PS3 is now officially released. and people are selling the PS3 on ebay anywhere from $2,000 - $15,000. i want the PS3 bad, but i wouldnt even dream of spending that much money on a console. >.>

and i'm not sure about this, but i think i read somewhere that a PS3 bid is going up to around $2,001,000. prolly a lie though. i found it amusing nonetheless. ^^

[DonEmu]

i saw one for sale for about $10,000 on ebay, lol, the bid was rising though, and no ps3 isnt using the boomerang, its using a normal looking controller, but with no wire, and what looks like a usb port in the front...

[Chidongan]

and no ps3 isnt using the boomerang, its using a normal looking controller, but with no wire, and what looks like a usb port in the front...

i know, but i liked the idea of a new controller, i think they should sell the boomerang seperately in case people wanted it. ^^

[DonEmu]

yeah, part weapon part controller, would be their slogan, i seriously hated it when i saw it, i was imagining gripping it and how it would feel v_v

[Azure Wrath]

it doesn't look SOOOOO bad, but i prefer the current one, its like a PS tradition.

[Chidongan]

well when i first saw it i thought the same the same thing, but then i saw a picture of someone holding it, and it was alot smaller than i had imagined, and it seemed to fit in your hand perfectly. ^^

[Azure Wrath]

hmmm... well, i dunno, i'll give it a chance... if it does make it... it'll probably be another few months befroe the PS3 hits my shores... so i'll wait and read here about how you all enjoy your PS3's

[kjrav]

Well I unofficially officially have my PS3!

[.ZabuZa.]

dude i tried buying a different controler for the ps2 and i was shocked on how much it felt uncomfortable so i send it back lol ps2 controller is da best one its like grippin a perfect pair of.....and comparing every other pair to thoses ones lol ^_^ its just not the same

[Azure Wrath]

@ kjrav... i am so jealous. PM it to me please?
@ zabz, i know what you mean, same here

[Raki]

there're freekin PS3 riots everywhere....u guys heard the news...a guy got shot and got his ps3 stolen...and others were injured...obsesed people....thats what u call gamers/geeks

[DonEmu]

there're freekin PS3 riots everywhere....u guys heard the news...a guy got shot and got his ps3 stolen...and others were injured...obsesed people....thats what u call gamers/geeks

No, thats what u call lunatics!

[Raki]

I dont get it...cant you wait like..3 weeks before getting it....these are stupid people....its not like if you are the first 1,000 person to get a ps3 , you get a extra one...

[AK47]

well i'd rather buy it now than at christmas time, it wil be more busy around christmas

[DonEmu]

actually its almost always more busy at releases than at christmas...best time to buy is new years though...

[Azure Wrath]

well, i'll have to wait a very long time for mine... i mean, when i bought my PS2 it went for R2700. now one goes for R1300. when it came outm it went for R4000.... waiting is worth it

[Raki]

im gonna wait till it hits the shelves in best buy...and gets on sale , im gonna wait for the action replay for ps3 , some acessories

[airstep]

No way. Best time to buy it would be 6 months from now when everyone already has one.

Pss. Dont tell anyone i accicentaly ran over a guy with a ps3. J/K.

Lol I tried to play the PS3 at Best buy and it froze up about 5 minutes playing Motorstorm. LOL!!!

[Raki]

yeah ... it has no fan at the back to push all the hot air out...with no ventialation in the ps3....you cant play it for like 24hrs

[.ZabuZa.]

no 24/7 ftw u_U i just wont get one until they fix that shtough i mean seriouly pls i dont even want one right now whats the point its not like all my friends have one and i could play with them so imma wait a couple of months till they fix some bugs and come out with some better games and i went to yodobashi yokohama which is like a 8 story electronic store that owns and the only accesseries that are out for it are a controller that comes with the thing ya ill wait a bit ^_^ imma get a Wii though 250 u cant loss o_O/

[Raki]

when the 360 came out...it had no fan..but now they added one

[DonEmu]

when the 360 came out...it had no fan..but now they added one

the beta release had no fan, the mass release came with one, this is mass release ps3 we are talking about...

[Uchiha_Blaze]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3bsFJjMQyTk

these are onley facts though.

[anantha92]

seeing how old this thread is makes me laugh

[Techno Dude]

i have a quick question will the ps3 be-able to play games from america an japan or any other place is it like multi - region

[Azure Wrath]

here i can win your sympathy

PS3 will be released THIS MONTH in south africa

yes, while you have all been basking in it for quite a while now, it will only arrive here sometime this month... HOPEFULLY!!

AAARRG!!!

R6000!!! AHHH!!! thats about $1000!!! AAAAAAGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!! and about $100 per game!! AAAAAGG!!

i'll need to sell my liver on the blakcmarket/ebay to afford a controller..

[Hidden Ninja]

oh wow, thats massive inflation there! feel sorry for you azure! though i am sure through ebay you can find one in the states for the normal price. the inflation of ebay has subsided since the initial demand and rush has finished.

[Azure Wrath]

the only thing that ISN'T inflating is my damn wallet... which will soon discover the concept of negatvie weight... :(