is kisame already possessed??

[Vishox]

i was wondering this, see all the people who are possessed by a demon have facial features which derive from the demon. naruto has the fox features, gaara, not sure, but he has the appearance which stands out.

first i thought maybe kisame only has shark features because hes from the country of the wave, but could he already be one of the akatsuki members who were successful in having a demon sealed into themselves? nine members, nine demons... thoughts?

[NaruMike]

I don't agree with you.Akatsuki just want kyubi or any other demon to get power, i assume.If they already had one with them,what would be the point in chasing an other.You may say that they are chasing naruto because the nine-tails is the strongest of all the demons.(that VERY old lady said something about the level being higher depends on how many tails the demon has).There would be a point in chasing kyubi,but there will not be any meaning in chasing gaara(which they did).
Gaara's monster has only one tail,so you can assume that he is the least powerful one of the nine demons.That's what i believe!!

[Von Awesome]

I think the Akatsuki want to have a demon in each one of them, so that they are powerful in the sense of Gaara or Naruto. I think Kisame already has one, one that is probably some sort of Shark Demon. Gaara looks like a racoon and has a raccoon demon, Naruto looks like a fox and has a fox demon, so it is logical to assume that Kisame, who looks like a shark and has Naruto-level chakra, has a shark demon.

I'm guessing two-tails for this one.

[j3k69]

I think the only reason that kisame looks like a shark is because he is probably from a clan that has a special blood line limit.

[B166ER]

yeah and gaara doesn't have a racoon demon, where did u see that, it's a sand demon

[Vishox]

yeah and gaara doesn't have a racoon demon, where did u see that, it's a sand demon

its said in one episode of the manga itself

the demon shukaku or whatsisname is a racoon

[ongt0001]

If u look closely at the statue-like thingy that the Akatsuki summoned...it has 2 eyeballs...i suspect that they have captured 2 Demons.

And one more thing...in 257 kakashi said something to Itachi about his eyesight....i think there is an adverse effect in using the Mangekyou Sharingan...i think ur eyesight fails with each use...OPINIONS ANYONE?

[Vishox]

If u look closely at the statue-like thingy that the Akatsuki summoned...it has 2 eyeballs...i suspect that they have captured 2 Demons.

And one more thing...in 257 kakashi said something to Itachi about his eyesight....i think there is an adverse effect in using the Mangekyou Sharingan...i think ur eyesight fails with each use...OPINIONS ANYONE?others have said its something lost in translation and i'd go with that. rather its clouded his judgement than his eyesight

[graff]

I think the only reason that kisame looks like a shark is because he is probably from a clan that has a special blood line limit.
just cause he looks like that doesnt mean that he has a blood linelimit. its probably just a clan.

[nawar]

i dont think kisame has a demon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he is too weak to have one

[B166ER]

too weak ?? where did u see he was weak ??
btw, naruto's not "possessed" by a demon, he has a demon sealed in him.

[LuCas]

i dont think kisame has a demon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he is too weak to have one

naruto is 10 times weaker than kisame to even have a demon also.

[ColleenS]

Gaara's demon, Shukaku, is a sand Tanuki. A Tanuki is a canine mammal native to Japan which resembles a racoon. Here is some other info I found on Tanuki (partly where the "sand priest" thing may come from):

The Tanuki Kami, as opposed to the zoologically identified tanuki, is usually presented as an itinerant Buddhist monk or priest wearing a kimono and a traditional straw hat, carrying a sheaf of papers in one hand, a saké jug in the other.

When Gaara was fighting Kimimaro, he put up that "Ultimate Tanuki Barrier" statue-looking thing. That is what a "Tanuki Kami" looks like.

If you've never seen a real Tanuki, here's a photo of one:
http://www.jsdi.or.jp/~kaminezo/images/tanuki.jpg

And here is an interesting Japanese story about who the priest Shukaku was. You'll need to read the whole thing to understand. This was the only info on Shukaku I could find:
http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/nanjo/nanjo17.htm


Hope that helps to clear up some confusion as to what Gaara's demon is, or at least based on.

[dragon_50469]

I think the Akatsuki want to have a demon in each one of them, so that they are powerful in the sense of Gaara or Naruto. I think Kisame already has one, one that is probably some sort of Shark Demon. Gaara looks like a racoon and has a raccoon demon, Naruto looks like a fox and has a fox demon, so it is logical to assume that Kisame, who looks like a shark and has Naruto-level chakra, has a shark demon.

I'm guessing two-tails for this one.

Exactly what I was thinking.

[LuCas]

well, kisame probably "is" the only person that doesnt look like a human. he looks like some monster. (which the demon can take over his face ;))

[NaruMike]

You may be right after all.Kisame may have a demon inside him but i think kishimoto should make it more obvious.We have seen no seal,sot even referings by anyone for kisame.I am saying that because having a demon inside you is a big deal.It cannot be passed unseen.Naruto's demons is actually the story of naruto for god sake.Gaara had a horrible childhood.We haven't hear anything like that for kisame.That's hy i have my little doubts about it.But who knows,only time will show!

[ColleenS]

Its possible he might have one.. They haven't given us any background info on Kisame yet; like with Gaara. We knew Gaara for awhile before we found out he had a demon.

[Snoopimaru]

OK, so Naruto has the strongest tailed demon.
wouldnt the leader of Akatsuki want that for himself?
and isn't Itachi the one that's after it?
Because in episode 256, it think, someone says he'll deal with them and that he's had trouble securing his tailed demon.

[B166ER]

the kyuubi being the strongest of all the demons is just an assumption, not a fact.

[Snoopimaru]

so assuming that, if Itachi were to get Kyuubi, he'd be unstoppable, right?
but still, if I was the Akatsuki leader, id want Kyuubi.
then again I dont know about the other demons, it just seems that there can't posibly be anything more devastating.

[LuCas]

You may be right after all.Kisame may have a demon inside him but i think kishimoto should make it more obvious.We have seen no seal,sot even referings by anyone for kisame.I am saying that because having a demon inside you is a big deal.It cannot be passed unseen.Naruto's demons is actually the story of naruto for god sake.Gaara had a horrible childhood.We haven't hear anything like that for kisame.That's hy i have my little doubts about it.But who knows,only time will show!

Because kisame is with the bad guys ;)

If they tell little sad stories about kisame, our minds would change about him, we wouldnt think of him as an evil person anymore. Its better off if we think hes a bad guy for now.

There will most likely be a flashback of kisame having a horrible childhood or something when hes about to die. (Like most animes do when people are about to die)

[EgoBrain]

I remember the mentioning of Kisames high chakra level so im automatically assuming he has some kind of demon inside him.

[Belatan]

Are you going to say that Orochimaru has a demon aswell now? Since he resembles a snake. Don't say that it's because of some wicked jutsu because he looked like that when he was a kid aswell.

It has been stated that the kyuubi is the strongest demon. The old puppet lady told Sakura that the Ichibi came first with one tail and then they increased in strength, she also stated that there were only 9 demons.

[LuCas]

lol, i was wondering how snakes pop out of orochimaru out of no where..

but theres no way hes a demon, it doesnt seem like it.

(when orochimaru was about to take that guy's body [like when kimimaro was still alive], it showed a sign of a snake in the anime) that seemed a bit weird.. or maybe orochimaru is just like that ;)

[sssddd]

itachi has to follow orders and bring naruto back. He cant just run off with Naruto to the middle of nowhere and take the fox chara for himself. The whole ritual thing is a big big thing, not something to be done in a back yard.

[silverfangbreed]

we figure the anima looking monster is telling us they have collected to demons kisame could very well hold one or it might just be the fact here
that there are only six surviving mist nin left since the ZABUZA DIED

[Daisumaru]

The poor Tanuki never really gets identified %100 correctly. A tanuki the creature sealed in Gara is a distant cousin of the fox family and is often mistranslated/changed to badger in American translation *cough*Inuyasha. So don't be suprised if the American version of the anime/manga calls him a badger, I'd be suprised if they leave it alone to be honest -_-.

Here's a site with information about Tanuki's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanuki


^way off topic^

[Daisumaru]

On to the actuall comment no Kisame does not have a Bijuu sealed in him nor does Orochimaru, it is simply character distinction. I realize what Neji said about the amount of chakra Kisame has, but that's not relevent to that matter. Neiji's comment was meant as nothing more than a distinction of strength. The amount of chakra he has is most likely it, whereas the Bijuu are supposed to have an almost limitless amount of chakra and I'm sure Naruto's amount of Chakra has increased greatly(both in his own and how much of kyuubi's he can use).

[silverfangbreed]

the sword that kimase has sucks up chakra im sure that he some how figured out a way to utilize this energy collected to boost his own it probly works as a soldier pill or somthin this is most likely in my opinion is the reson think he is possed

[Byakuringan]

9 Red clouds, 9 demons, 9 numbers of tails...
My friend speculated this would happen hahaha
Anyways... The statue DID open two eyes the moment gaara's energy started being taken... that would suggest that there has already been a demon sealed...
I doubt, for some reason, that kisame already has his demon.... If he had it he would have owned Kakashi and Gai and Kurenai and Asuma....
Maybe I'm wrong since he retreated to protect itachi...
My view on him being a shark dude and having a shark demon... I think it's a little superficial but it works... whiskers, big eyes, gills... It would make sense but surely he would have used this power before no?

[ongt0001]

I think Kisame has a huge amount of chakra because if u remember, before he left to fight team Gai, he said he would need to borrow chakra....so i am guessing that huge amount has LENT to him :twisted:

[DukeAbercrombie]

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[dragon_50469]

I think Kisame has a huge amount of chakra because if u remember, before he left to fight team Gai, he said he would need to borrow chakra....so i am guessing that huge amount has LENT to him :twisted:

Kisame wasn't borrowing the chakra, he was lending his chakra to the group.

[Snoopimaru]

i dont think kisame is already possessed.
coz where the akatsuki scout guy saw Gai's team, Kisame said that he'd take care of it, to get rid of some frustration because he hadn't found his tailed demon yet.

[Vishox]

i dont think kisame is already possessed.
coz where the akatsuki scout guy saw Gai's team, Kisame said that he'd take care of it, to get rid of some frustration because he hadn't found his tailed demon yet.guess that probably settles it...then leads on to the theory they all want one for themselves

[LethalBanee]

it wouldn't make any sense at all..

Kisame would be a goner

[yupster]

uuuh i have no idea what youre talking about
and why did you revive a topic from early 05?

[mandelak]

i thought this up ages ago but thought it would be stupid to make a whole thread on it, the whole why akatsuki want the tailed beasts for. i think they want to seal it in them selves as well, but itachi is only helping out in capturing the demons maybe he is cocky and thinks he can take on most ppl in the akat, which i think he could, but with some difficultes. he might want to get kyuubi for him self, only reason he joined akat to do it is because they had the things needed to extract it and probably seal it into them selves. he probably knew he couldnt get it himself so he joined with them in order to make things easier for him.

kisame dont have one i think, he just has a crazy amount of chakra like naruto, he has a crazy amount of chakra without even without kyuubi.

itachi might be wanting to fight naruto at his peak i think, to test himself against someone worthy

[aldaron]

No, because if I remember correctly, the Bijuu with any shark affiliation was the 3 tails that was caught by Tobi. So the relation to Kisame is shot right there.

[Kayleen]

Wow, what an old thread :eek:

Anyways, I don't think Akatsuki wants to seal the bijyuus within themselves. Wasn't it mentioned in a chapter(Hidan with Leader conversation) that they were to use the bijyuus as a "market of power"(I'm just making that term up) to sell to the highest bidders. That way. they could control the wars and there fore, shift the Narutoverse any way they wanted.

The reason each member is helping this plan is because it directly or indirectly goes along with their personal plans. For example, Hidan pretty much just wants to kill people for his religion, and Kakuzu wants profit(which he'd probably get from "renting" the bijyuus to villages).

[Gabe Rod]

uuuh i have no idea what youre talking about
and why did you revive a topic from early 05?

We are talking about if kisame already has a beast inside him. Like naruto. I don't think so though. I mean he would be running from akatsuki. Not with them. I mean they would know sinse they know where the other people are with the beasts.

[MrUseless]

Kisame doesn't have a tailed beast in him. We don't know what AK is going to do with the tailed beasts when they collect them all. Who knows, maybe they are going to combine them somehow and have a free-for-all to the death to see who gets to control them?

Naruto and Kisame were both born with enormous ammounts of Chakra.

Right after Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura were teamed with Kakashi, before the Kyuubi's chakra had any effect on Naruto (it was sealed completely then), Kakashi said something like "Hmm, Naruto appears to have much more chakra than even me"

[Gabe Rod]

Yeah naruto caught up and kisame is just a beast so he has a lot of chakra. Nothing more than that. Unless he's got the 5 hearts thing like kazuku. Jk. :p

[Eyeshield 21]

Kisame a beast inside him? I dont know about that but isnt he the beast himself.. I mean that guy must have gone through something to look like sharks..

[Gabe Rod]

Kisame a beast inside him? I dont know about that but isnt he the beast himself.. I mean that guy must have gone through something to look like sharks..

haha I know right. I wonder what his mom and dad looked like?:D

[MrUseless]

Kisame a beast inside him? I dont know about that but isnt he the beast himself.. I mean that guy must have gone through something to look like sharks..

Kisame is a half-beast...

We still don't really know Kisame's past, he could have been an experiment to replicate the DNA of the 3 tailed beast into an unfertilized egg, then he was born half human half beast... ^^

[Gabe Rod]

Kisame is a half-beast...

We still don't really know Kisame's past, he could have been an experiment to replicate the DNA of the 3 tailed beast into an unfertilized egg, then he was born half human half beast... ^^

I Think I know who created that experiment. :p
Oro, of course.:D

[yupster]

We are talking about if kisame already has a beast inside him. Like naruto. I don't think so though. I mean he would be running from akatsuki. Not with them. I mean they would know sinse they know where the other people are with the beasts.

oh i know what the discussion is i was refering to the post just above mine

how are they sealing the demons into themselves? when the third tried sealing one it cost him his life
i think they just plan on releasing them and having some form of control (something to do with the statue maybe)

[mandelak]

nuh they might have a way to seal it without dying. or maybe its to reserect something big.

[Bartimaeus]

Dunno if it had been said...but...There is no tailed beast in japanese mytholigy (Yeah,. all tailed beast in Naruto are taken from Japanese Mythology) that takes the form of a Shark.

One Tailed Demon - Ichibi no Shukaku, takes the form of a racoon. This demon is sealed within Gaara of the Desert, because of this Gaara has the ability to control the sand around him. Other translations include: Shukaku, One tailed Shukaku, Tanuki.

Two Tailed Demon - Nibi no Nekomata, takes the form of a cat in Japanese mythology. This demon has not featured in the Naruto series as of yet.

Three Tailed Demon - Sanbi no Isonade, takes the form of a fish in Japanese mythology. This demon has not featured in the Naruto series as of yet.

^Tough, it's more a turtle than a Fish. And they capture him MUCH after we see Kisame...


Four Tailed Demon - Yonbi no Sokou, takes the form of a reptile like creature in Japanese mythology. This demon has not featured in the Naruto series as of yet.

Five Tailed Demon - Gobi no Houkou, takes the form of a dog in Japanese mythology. This demon has not featured in the Naruto series as of yet.

Six Tailed Demon - Rokubi no Raijuu, takes the form of weasel in Japanese mythology. This demon has not featured in the Naruto series as of yet.

Seven Tailed Demon - Shichibi no Kaku, takes the form of a badger in Japanese mythology. This demon has not featured in the Naruto series as of yet.

Eight Tailed Demon - Hachibi no Hachimata, takes the form of a snake in Japanese mythology. This demon has not featured in the Naruto series as of yet.

Nine Tailed Demon - Kyuubi no Yoko, takes the form of a fox. This demon is sealed within Uzumaki Naruto who has incredible stamina and can summon large amounts of the Kyuubi's chakra. However Naruto has not yet learned how to fully control the awesome power of Kyuubi. Other translations include: Kyuubi, Nine Tailed Demon Fox, Kitsune.


K? Thx?

[yupster]

nuh they might have a way to seal it without dying. or maybe its to reserect something big.

yeah i thought about it if they do end up sealing them in themselves youre right it wont take someone dying to do it i dont think its something big though because they would need kyuubi from naruto and even supposing he survives somehow theres no way in hell anyone could beat something as strong as all nine combined... maybe near the end naruto would be able to beat just kyuubi with his own power but definitely not all nine (plus they already revealed their plan to use it for war and then work as mercenaries to get money and power then rule the world and in a war its better to have many strong forces you can move around than one massively powerful one)