where is 257??

[hamstar]

i thought it would released by today!\
:evil:

[dragon_50469]

I thought I'd be able to see a raw by now at least.

[DukeAbercrombie]

That fucking pisses me off

where the fuck is it?

the anime is out

[evil_murai]

We shouldve had the scanlation by now, much less the RAW.

[hamstar]

there should be more than one source for RAW scanage....

inane probably has the flu?

I NEED MY NARUTO FIX NOWWW

[7hat1kid]

Ask and ye shall receive
Here's the raw for everyone
*Edit* Prevvious link didn't work sorry guys. Try this one it should.

http://www.liquidwaves.com/naruto257_RAW.zip

*Edit* Here's a translation
credit for this goes to hisshouburaiken from narutofan.com forums.

Page 1:
Title: The value of Kakashi's experience!
Sidebar: His trail is stained with blood. Continuing forward alone, what will his red eyes show?

Page 2:
Sakura: This is Uchiha Itachi?
Chiyo: Itachi, eh? Wow...you're the one who killed that entire clan, eh?
Itachi: It's been a while, Kakashi-san, Naruto-kun.
Sakura: He has the same Sharingan as Sasuke-kun...

He's the one who's put them through all this suffering!

Page 3:
Naruto: You son of a bitch!
Not only me, but Gaara too? I'm gonna beat the hell out of you!
Kakashi: ! Everyone, don't look directly into his eyes! It's too dangerous!

Page 4:
Sakura: Then what the hell do we do...?
Kakashi: Gai...what happened with you and Itachi?
Gai: Hm?

Kakashi: You have to judge his movement based solely on the movement of his feet, or body.

Kakashi: Itachi uses his eyes to perform Genjutsu. Meaning, you've got to look at him for it to work. As long as you avoid eye contact, you'll be OK.

Page 5:
Sakura: That sounds extremely difficult...
Chiyo: The Uchiha clan, eh...
It's been a long, long time since I fought one of them.
Well, there's nothing to worry about. When you're fighting people with Dojutsu (Eye techniques), there're plenty of battle plans.
Naruto: What're you saying?

Page 6:
Chiyo: "If it's one-on-one, run, no matter what."
"If it's two-on-one, get 'em from behind."
Naruto: Huh?
Chiyo: If it's two-on-one...then if someone's trapped in the genjutsu, the other attacks from behind, breaking the jutsu.
Or, if they can't they can still help their ally by dispelling the illusion themselves.

In other words, we've got him outnumbered, so we can use our numbers to divert his attention, and keep our attacks focused on the sharingan's blind spot.

Sakura: I see...
Naruto: Being so old IS good for something!

Page 7:
Kakashi: That might be fine for normal-level Genjutsu, but we need to be a little more careful here.
Chiyo: Eh?
Kakashi: He uses the "Mangekyou Sharingan", which gives him eye techniques far beyond those of a normal Sharingan.
If you're caught in his Genjutsu, the effects are instantaneous. There IS no "dispelling the illusion".
Chiyo: What a troublesome opponent...what is he?

Page 8:
Itachi: Impressive as always, Kakashi-san. You've realized all that from just one experience with Tsukiyomi.
Kakashi: That's not all...I also know that after using that jutsu, you got very fatigued and tried to retreat immediately.

Kisame: But Itachi-san, it's dangerous, even for you, to your eyes too much.
Itachi: We didn't come here to start a war. Unfortunate as it is, this has all been nonsense. We're going.

Kakashi: Tsukiyomi requires a huge amount of chakra.
When you use your eyes, you're taking an extremely heavy risk.
Itachi: An excellent analysis, considering we've only fought once.

Page 9:
Kakashi: Itachi.
How bad has your eyesight gotten?

Page 10:
Itachi: Kakashi-san...
You couldn't have...

Kakashi: Well! You were careless, but I'm no slouch either.
Things are going to be different this time.
Naruto: That goes double for me!

Page 11:
Kakashi: Naruto. I'll take him.
Naruto: (SFX: Twitch
Where the hell's the teamwork if I never get to fight?!
Kakashi: No, no, I mean, you're my backup.
I want to act cool and say, "Hurry up and go", but
even though I'm fighting, I can't totally take him by myself.

Page 12:
(Ker-block! Ker-parry!)

Page 13:
Gai: NOW!

Kisame: Pfft...

Kisame: Mizu Bunshin no jutsu! (Water Clone technique!)

Page 14/15: (Splashy sounds)

Page 16:
Kisame: Suirou no jutsu! (Water prison technique!)
Neji: What the?
Gai: Shit!

Page 17:
Tenten: Gyaa!
Neji: Guh!
Lee: Guhuoo..

Page 18:
Tenten: Ugh...can't breathe...
Neji: Shit!
Lee: I can't move...
Gai: Lee! Neji! Tenten!

Page 19:
Kisame: I'm quite surprised...these brats are a lot better than I expected.
But there won't be anymore interruptions from now on.

Sidebar: Kakashi vs. Itachi, Gai vs. Kisame! A fight of unimaginable proportions begins as Akatsuki and the Leaf square off!

Bottom: The two fights shockingly conclude! Next time: "Kakashi gets serious!"


*spoilers*












Gai took that sword like kismae was nuthin but a little bitch. But then stupid ass TenTen Neji and lee and to go and get themselves trapped. Oh well though this set the stage for Gai vs Kisame perfectly. I've been dying to see gai fight seriously. To bad there wasn't any fighting between team Kakashi and Itachi though.

[Amatsu Mikaboshi]

yea that link dont work.,

[hamstar]

nice translation. Im gonna download it tomorrow.

:)

oh...and it seems itachi's eye sight has gotten bad....he's weaker now?

[hamstar]

http://www.japflap.com/~naruto/

always go here..

[B166ER]

the sharingan would weaken the eyesight ??? and that'd be for this reason that kakashi only uses his non sharingan eye usually. I guess this effect is even worse with the mangekyou sharingan... :?

[Vultimax]

hmm i dont quite understand about the sharingan would weak the eyesight
can anyone details me simple ?

anyway pin this!

[Id]

NEW JUTSUS!!! NEW MOVES!!! HERE IT COMES! HERE IT COMES!!

...man...258 is so far away!!!

[ColleenS]

I always thought that maybe Kakashi kept his Sharingan eye covered up just so people wouldn't know he had it, since he's not an Uchiha. That he wouldn' want it getting around that "if a non-Uchiha can have a Sharingan, anyone can have it" and then everyone trying to get it, or something like that. ^ ^;
Maybe not a normal Sharingan weakens the eyesight, but having/using the stronger techniques like the Mangekyou Sharingan would have such a side effect..?

[Trinity210]

Wow, this chapter made me really want to see 258! The Gai vs. Kisame fight is getting pretty intense, and the Kakashi vs. Itachi fight looks like it's going to be really good as well.
Do you think Lee/Neji/TenTen will be able to find a way to break out of their prisons and help Gai, or will it be a 1 vs 1 fight?

[seraphsword]

I think the weak eyesight thing is that when you rely heavily on the Sharingan, it gets to the point where you can only see chakra.

[graff]

wow man it seems that theres alout that we didnt know about the sharingan huh? but does this mean that kakashis eye sight has weekened also?

damn it gai is in some trouble but i think that hell pull through.

[7hat1kid]

Kakashi's eye sight probably has declinded a little bit over the years. However since he only has one Sharingan and didn't rely on it as heavily has itachi it is probably better than Itachi's. Not to mention the mangenkyou sharingan probably causes a lot more stress on the eyes than just normal sharingan.

[race84as]

i thought that the only negative side effects of the sharingan was that it ate up alot of chakra. and that kakashi covered up his eye because he couldn't turn it off. but damn messing up the vision that sucks. im glad kishimoto gave that doujutsu a significant weakness, now Itachi doesn't look so invincible and it also makes sense that he would seek the nearly limitless power of the kyuubi to make up for it.

[graff]

well that and im sure that he has the knowledge that kyubbi heals who its inside of so he might be thinking that it would heal his eyesight.

[Kaiwub]

I think Kakashi might have Mangekyou Sharingan. It's gonna be awesome to see what he has learned.

[DukeAbercrombie]

well that and im sure that he has the knowledge that kyubbi heals who its inside of so he might be thinking that it would heal his eyesight.i like that idea

[DukeAbercrombie]

why do you guys get the impression that using the sharingon will worsen the users bad eyesight

"Page 9:
Kakashi: Itachi.
How bad has your eyesight gotten?

Page 10:
Itachi: Kakashi-san...
You couldn't have...

Kakashi: Well! You were careless, but I'm no slouch either.
Things are going to be different this time.
Naruto: That goes double for me! "


maybe he is refering to something else that made his eyesight worst

[hamstar]

I think Kakashi might have Mangekyou Sharingan. It's gonna be awesome to see what he has learned.


this is exactly what i was thinking..

[graff]

i might be pissed if he has it depending on how he gets it.

why do you guys get the impression that using the sharingon will worsen the users bad eyesight

"Page 9:
Kakashi: Itachi.
How bad has your eyesight gotten?

Page 10:
Itachi: Kakashi-san...
You couldn't have...

Kakashi: Well! You were careless, but I'm no slouch either.
Things are going to be different this time.
Naruto: That goes double for me! "


maybe he is refering to something else that made his eyesight worst

what the hell else could he be reffering to. its not openended.

[Trinity210]

"Page 9:
Kakashi: Itachi.
How bad has your eyesight gotten?

Page 10:
Itachi: Kakashi-san...
You couldn't have...

Kakashi: Well! You were careless, but I'm no slouch either.
Things are going to be different this time.
Naruto: That goes double for me! "


The way Itachi says, "Kakashi-san...you couldn't have..." makes me wonder if maybe Kakashi did something to Itachi during their fight that screwed up Itachi's eyes. Although, one would think Akatsuki has a medical nin that could have found a way to fix the problem (whatever it is) sometime during the last three years. Also, the Akatsuki leader let Itachi go to fight Team Kakashi, so Itachi is apparently still very strong despite whatever handicap he now has.

On a different subject, I thought it was interesting that Samehada grew spines to cut up Gai's hands even though Kisame wasn't wielding it at the time. I've heard speculation that Samehada's chakra-eating ability might be due to its having a demon of some sort trapped inside it. This chapter makes me think that might be true...a normal weapon wouldn't reject its wielder the way Samehada rejected Gai.

[graff]

actually when you think about it i think akatsuki wouldnt have a medical nin cause there about sheer power. not comradery or caring about each other. there about getting the job done. but my only problem with the whole eye thing that kakashi supposedly did to itachi is when could he have done it cause he was too busy getting owned.

i do however like the idea about the sword maybe having a demon.

[j3k69]

I think what kakashi meant by itachi having bad eye sight is that kakashi might have gotten stronger or obtained something new and since itachi didnt notice it kakashi made a little smart ass joke saying his eyes got bad.

[Vultimax]

man i want 258 now : Kakashi gets serious

i wanna see if his new jutsu is mangekyou sharingan or just other cool moves.

anyway i believe Gai can handle Kisame.
He is an excellent ninja altho he looks ugly with his teeth and hair

[Dream_Walker]

kakashi and mengekyo sharingan? might just be. either way i hope itachi GETS HIS ASS WHOOPED!

[skyz69]

my opinion is the same j3k69's, it was just trash talk. i think it was to imply that itachi's ability to assess the situation had deproved, because team 7 had all gotten stronger and outnumbered him.

since 256 i thought that if itachi fought he would get owned. even if he mangekyoed kakashi, there would still be the old lady's puppets, and naruto's toad summons, not to mention sakura and naruto themselves to deal with.

kakashi looked directly at itachi because he knew that even if he was sacrificed and killed by mangekyo, the rest could take down the weakened itachi.

i think itachi meant to say 'you couldn't have (survived the mangekyo...)' itachi knew that he was not strong enough to do the mangekyo and beat the rest. for someone who hates teamwork and wants himself to be the strongest, this must be humiliating.

[RandomGuy]

I think Kakashi might have Mangekyou Sharingan. It's gonna be awesome to see what he has learned.


this is exactly what i was thinking..
No. Really though, I dont think that would ever happen and if it does, Im stopping reading Naruto because that would just be incredibly lame of Kishimoto.


Anyway, I get the feeling that this "eyesight" thing that Kakashi's talking about isn't really referring to Itachi's real eyesight. Its probably just a little boasting from Kakashi like "I figured you out, what now?!". At least Im hoping this is how it is because first of all, they weren't even talking about his normal eyesight before Kakashi said that, and second of all it would just be completely out of no where and stupid.

In any case, Itachi seems a little annoyed at Kakashi's arrogance, so Im guessing that Itachi will somehow pull something out of his ass since its a 4v1 fight. Gai also seems pretty pissed off, so Im excited to see whats up there.

[Vultimax]

Hmm , after here is my point of view.
Kakashi eye to eye his sharingan to Itachi's.Could this be he has train well enough to counter it or prevent it ?

Otherwise Itachi woudnt say Kakashi you coudnt have....

just my 2 cents.

[Amatsu Mikaboshi]

utterly amazing there is no sub yet.

[graff]

ya there is it was out when i got out of school today at 2

[L2Mc]

Kick ass chapter. sure no one wants it spoiled:

Kakashi's evolved Sharingan was completely unexpected!!! This battle will be great, I definately hope that Naruto does have his chance to back up Kakashi.

And as I've always thought, Kisame is F***ing awesome!!! Capturing all three of Gai's team as well as preventing Gai from using the sword? Kick Ass! The fight between Kisame and Gai is going to come to boil soon. I can't wait for 258!!!!!!

[Amatsu Mikaboshi]

http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~rmazores/naruto/Naruto_v29_ch257_LQ%5BShannaro%5D.zip

since SOME people are unable to post links when they discover that the sub is out.

[7hat1kid]

Ok just noticed this. Look on page 9 of the manga. You see itachi looking straight at Kakashi then his eyes get really wide. He was suprised by something that Kakashi did. Then right below then we see Itachi with his eye's closed and his head is tilted down. Now why would he suddenly avoid direct eye contact with Kakashi. Can anybody say Mangenkyou Sharingan I know I can.

[nawar]

to be honest everything is posible,

the bad eyesight of the sharingan weakness,.,.. but i think it was a joke that itachi didnt notice something about kakashi.....also......we only saw the sharingan eye,.....and not BOTH!!!!!

[-Itachi]

i do not think kakashi got the new sharingan. becasue also on that page after he looks down it shows kakshis eye and it still only has 3 dots.

[Sanitybreak]

i think normal sharingan doesnt do anything bad, but mangankyo puts too much strain on the eye and therefore damages your eyesight.

[graff]

i like that explanation. but the mangekyo sharingan disappears after you try to use it and only appears when you want it to.

[Darchangel]

I think that Kakashi is probably unable to attain the Mangekyo. Itachi said to him before that just because he had the eye didn't mean he shared their blood. If Kakashi has obtained it, Itachi shouldn't know how he did it, and Itachi should know the most about the ability. It was likely a snarky comment about Itachi's eyes going bad, but it's certainly because Kakashi has discovered some new trick with the Sharingan that Itachi does know about. There have to be a plethora of techniques you can do with the Sharingan. Kakashi uses the suggestion genjutsu on Zabuza.. they don't have to be Mangekyo techniques.

While I have no proof, my theories are these:
1) Kakashi has some new trick up his sleeve, likely involving the Sharingan, but is likely not Mangekyo.
2) Team 7+ puppet baba will not kill Itachi. That fight will likely end in stalemate, with Itachi retreating, albeit weakened because of Kakashi's new skill.
3) Gai has no bloodline abilities, and it would appear he has little talent for ninjutsu, seeing as Kakashi refers to the young Rock as being like Gai.
4) Kisame is Akatsuki. He's got enough power in him to rip Gai to shreds if Gai fights alone. Lest we forget: Samehada eats chakra. Kisame's rediculously strong (he's done what he's done while keeping one of his kagebunshin working on Gaara). Finally, Kisame's going to execute a special technique to dispatch them that we haven't seen yet and is likely rediculously strong because Kisame "has a lot of chakra to handle that jutsu". Gai doesn't really have a whole lot going for him except things we haven't seen yet. But because the plot would be kind of stagnant if everyone walked away from both of these fights, and if the average team of chuunin/2 jounin could fight off the likes of Itachi (stronger than Orochimaru, don't forget) and Kisame, I would be sorely disappointed. Likely Gai's not going to make it out of this one. Besides, if that were to happen, guess who'd be at the pinacle of his fighting potential?

Take this Bruce Lee! A really big serated sword through your gut! Now not only are you bleeding to death, you have no chakra left. What's all this about Hachimon Tonkou? Yeah, good luck with that.

[Dream_Walker]

don't underestimate gai. i think he can take kisame no matter how much chakra he has

[Amatsu Mikaboshi]

seeing as how he taught lee to open gates, and gai is ALREADY pretty effin strong. i think things will be quite interesting now that his student's lives are on the line.

[B166ER]

do you think gai will open the eight gates, kill kisame and die the moment after? that could happen but I'd be sad :cry:

[skyz69]

if kisame's jutsu is like zabuza's, then all gai has to do is to take out the water bunshins, who can't move either. the question is whether gai can escape from a similar water prison if it got started on him. with his speed and strength, its likely...

the 2nd part is just starting, i doubt anyones going to get killed...

[evil_murai]

Lest we forget: Samehada eats chakra..

Yes, but taijutsu uses stamina, not chakra.

[B166ER]

chakra is related to stamina, chakra is the name of the vital energy in naruto, so the more u use it, the more you're exhausted, and the less you have stamina

[Darchangel]

Actually, that would make the best sense for plot advancement..

I would like it if Gai opened all the gates for his students and killed Kisame.

[Amatsu Mikaboshi]

that sword isnt gonna just suck out gai's stamina.

if gai molds some chakra for something then yes the sword will eat it up.

[7hat1kid]

I think that Kakashi is probably unable to attain the Mangekyo. Itachi said to him before that just because he had the eye didn't mean he shared their blood. If Kakashi has obtained it, Itachi shouldn't know how he did it, and Itachi should know the most about the ability. It was likely a snarky comment about Itachi's eyes going bad, but it's certainly because Kakashi has discovered some new trick with the Sharingan that Itachi does know about. There have to be a plethora of techniques you can do with the Sharingan. Kakashi uses the suggestion genjutsu on Zabuza.. they don't have to be Mangekyo techniques.

While I have no proof, my theories are these:
1) Kakashi has some new trick up his sleeve, likely involving the Sharingan, but is likely not Mangekyo.
2) Team 7+ puppet baba will not kill Itachi. That fight will likely end in stalemate, with Itachi retreating, albeit weakened because of Kakashi's new skill.
3) Gai has no bloodline abilities, and it would appear he has little talent for ninjutsu, seeing as Kakashi refers to the young Rock as being like Gai.
4) Kisame is Akatsuki. He's got enough power in him to rip Gai to shreds if Gai fights alone. Lest we forget: Samehada eats chakra. Kisame's rediculously strong (he's done what he's done while keeping one of his kagebunshin working on Gaara). Finally, Kisame's going to execute a special technique to dispatch them that we haven't seen yet and is likely rediculously strong because Kisame "has a lot of chakra to handle that jutsu". Gai doesn't really have a whole lot going for him except things we haven't seen yet. But because the plot would be kind of stagnant if everyone walked away from both of these fights, and if the average team of chuunin/2 jounin could fight off the likes of Itachi (stronger than Orochimaru, don't forget) and Kisame, I would be sorely disappointed. Likely Gai's not going to make it out of this one. Besides, if that were to happen, guess who'd be at the pinacle of his fighting potential?

Take this Bruce Lee! A really big serated sword through your gut! Now not only are you bleeding to death, you have no chakra left. What's all this about Hachimon Tonkou? Yeah, good luck with that.

While most of what you say makes very good sense I have to disagree with you on a couple of points. First using the theory that the Magenkyou Sharingan is what causes the stress on the eye's causing Itachi's eyes to worsen the only possible way that Kakashi could have known about it is if he himself had optained it. Not only that but when Kakashi first obtained his Sharingan from Obito it was not fully evolved. However it now is, showing that even though Kakashi doesn't have the uchiha blood he can stregnthen the sharignan. Secondly I disagree with you team 7 Itachi stalemate idea. Firstly because Kakashi is undoublty stronger than the last time they fought. Secondly because even Itachi would not fight agaist Jiraiya he himself said that at best they could defeat him but would die as well. Now seeing as how Naruto has been training for two and a half years with a man that as not afraid to kill naruto in the process mean naruto is bound to be incredibly strong. Third Sakura has been training with Tsunade and no doubt has learned losts of awsome medical Jutsu's. So she's there to heal everyone during the battle whereas itachi has no one. And we also don't know the true strength of Sasori's Grandmother. On the lines of Kisamie vs Gai I'm really not sure what to expect out of that. However, I highly doubt kisame will just blow out Gai.

[B166ER]

that sword isnt gonna just suck out gai's stamina.

if gai molds some chakra for something then yes the sword will eat it up.
shinoni's taijutsu uses chakra instinctivly, it gives them the super strength/speed/stamina, so yes if kisame's sword eat gai chakra he'll be in great trouble.
to 7h4t1kid team 7 can't beat itachi, well theoricly they could, but itachi HAS to be killed by sasuke, this has been "announced" many times, so I'm voting for itachi retreating after having his ass nastily kicked

[Trinity210]

do you think gai will open the eight gates, kill kisame and die the moment after? that could happen but I'd be sad

I could see that happening. Gai always told Lee that the condition for opening the gates is protecting many important people, and right now Gai is protecting his students, who are probably the most important people in the world to him. I would also be very sad to see Gai die, but I think it's possible.

[RandomGuy]

Secondly because even Itachi would not fight agaist Jiraiya he himself said that at best they could defeat him but would die as well.
I thought they were talking about Kyuubi Naruto when they said that, since they were saying something like "We could kill him, but we would die also. More men would not change that result. And do you know who his caretaker is? Blah blah blah Jiraiya" Id have to check back tho.

Anyway, 7hat1kid, we haven't even seen everything Itachi can do. He was just messing around before he wanted to just end it quickly with Mangekyou when he first fought Kakashi. Basically, we dont know what Itachi is really capable of AND we dont nkow what Kakashi and his team are really capable of, so it will be interesting.

I also agree that it is interesting that Kakashi could develop the undeveloped Sharingan by himself. Ill take back my comment about Kakashi definitely not being able to develop the Mangekyou, but I would still find it kind of stupid if he was able to copy it or something.

[Omaki_Roku]

Calling it....

neji is going to break that water prison


he broke the spider webs
he will break the water prison

his chakara controll was outragous back then
it should be even greater now


the younger kids will shine



and besides...neji is a jounin now meaning hes now in the ranks of Gai and kakashi, he should be able to handle this situation some how some way

[0mni]

Everyone is saying that itachi or kisame will retreat or die, but is this even possible? I was under the impression that they were using clones to fight, so beating them would not kill them but make them run out of chakra and be unable to continue extracting gaara's demon.

[graff]

no there not clones the clones are in the cave.

[race84as]

kakashi wasn't supposed to be able to advance the basic sharingan he received from uchiha obito, so why should achieving mangekyou sharingan be out of the question? itachi told sasuke stuff about having to kill his best friend but he wants sasuke to walk sown the path of evil, how can we be so sure that itachi didnt tell sasuke that just to make sure he becomes evil and betray konaha. itachi supposedly killed uchiha shisui but shisui is still a possible candidate for being an akatsuki member. the way i see it, if obito had the slightest potential to achieve mangekyou sharingan then it is very much possible that it lives on within kakashi.

as for gai vs. kisame, i don't care how strong his opponent may seem my money is on gai.

[Divinedemon]

i believe that gai has way more skill than kisame because i dont even think hes trying

[DukeAbercrombie]

Everyone is saying that itachi or kisame will retreat or die, but is this even possible? I was under the impression that they were using clones to fight, so beating them would not kill them but make them run out of chakra and be unable to continue extracting gaara's demon.ooh! thats very clever

but i dont think the writers are that smart to get that complex,

do you think gai's hand is badly hurt because of the spikes that came out of the sword handle? i hope he is okay and that its just a scratch!

i want to see gais secret weapon! it better not be the gay ass worthless move the lotus spinning piledriver

[7hat1kid]

Calling it....

neji is going to break that water prison


he broke the spider webs
he will break the water prison

his chakara controll was outragous back then
it should be even greater now


the younger kids will shine



and besides...neji is a jounin now meaning hes now in the ranks of Gai and kakashi, he should be able to handle this situation some how some way

Yup I said the exact same thing when he got trapped. Once he finds the smallest little weeks spot he'll be out of there and will have TenTen and Lee out as well.

[-Itachi]

ya neji is one of my fav characters and he was really powerful before and now he looks crazy good with his new outfit lol. so he should be able to break out easy.

[jus10]

Kisame's sword is unique, but cheap. Since Kisame couldn't reach the level he's at now w/o the sword, it makes him a unique and interesting character. One way to kill a starving beast, is to make it choke to death. Gai should open the gates and feed Kisame's sword until it bursts/breaks or something to that affect. That could be one possibility.

To the idea of Itachi messing around before, is preposterous. They aren't the type of guys to mess around like that.

Both teams will seriously f*ck Akatsuki up. They have to be able to work these foos over individually if they ever plan to actually save gaara.

[emiare_pac]

Yeah but why would akutsuki send them out if they are going to be defeated? that weird plant guy has been spying on them and feeding information back to akutsuki so they know who they are facing..
Unless they underestimated them.. but i doubt it, these are the some of the best ninja's in naruto...

[nawar]

the thing is, everyone has his weakness....and i dont think it is theyr mission to stop the konoha nins, but to slow them down!!!!

[kwint]

i want to see gais secret weapon! it better not be the gay ass worthless move the lotus spinning piledriver

Lotus Spinning Pile Driver? LOL

That actually sounds like something Gai would use....think about it..

[Trinity210]

....and i dont think it is theyr mission to stop the konoha nins, but to slow them down!!!!

That's a good point. The Akatsuki guys don't have to actually kill the Konoha teams, they just have to delay them until the ritual is finished. Even if the Konoha teams manage to get past Kisame and Itachi, they will be weakened, and Sasori and Deidara are waiting for them in the cave. Sakura only has (I think) 3 doses of antidote to Sasori's poison, and Deidara has explosives powerful enough to level a village. Plus, Zetsu is lurking around somewhere nearby. If Itachi and Kisame weaken the Konoha teams to the point where they can't win against Sasori/Deidara/Zetsu, they've succeeded their mission.

Lotus Spinning Pile Driver? LOL

That actually sounds like something Gai would use....think about it..

Yeah, it does. :lol:

[MATCHSTICK]

Is there going to be 258 next week since it is golden week in japan?

Most serious fights tend to be dragged out for about a few chapters the itachi vs team7 hasn't even started yet. Kisame vs Gai has just REALLY started. If you look at shannaro's scanlation it says the fights will conclude in the next chapter so I say about 70% chance of a disappointed ending to the fight compared with the theories going around.

[graff]

no theres not going to be a chapter next week.

and in addition to the whole kakashi mangekyo sharingan thing. i now firmly believe that kakashi has the mangekyo and this is my reason be hind it. in the new high quality shannaro release there is an explanation of what was said be tween kakashi and itachi and it sort of differs from what was originally said. kakashi says according to the new translation, "not only does it use a huge amount of chakara...it would seem the jutsu carries a great deal of risk for your eyes too, doesnt it itachi." he then asks "your eyesight...how bad has it gotten". so you see the risk is that when you activate the tsukuyomi it runs the risk of ruining your eyesight. and how would kakashi know this from just one experience with it. its because he has activated it now.

at least thats the only sensible explanation in my opinion.

[Daisumaru]

Well I think I can explain everything perfectly. There is no doubt that Kakashi has copied the Mangekyou, his nickname is "Copy Ninja Kakashi" for pete sakes. If the plot wasn't enough to give that away when he moves the forehead protector up to expose his Sharingan it seems different than the usuall, almost like he's squinting at first. I realise that does seem a little lazy or haphazord of the author, but it follows the rules he set down for Kakashi and the Sharingan. Also to cover the speculation on the Akatsuki members they're currently at nine members, Oro was the 10th. The obvious explanation to this if you hadn't been reading previous statements by Jiraiya about the Akastuki word for word or the image featuring all nine current members, is the statue itself. They are all standing on fingertips (which the statue has ten like a normal human hand). Another point to mention is that Kisame will be beaten and so will Itachi(not killed just put to a fleeing point), but they will lose enough chakra to inhibit the Shukaku sucking from Gara and buy them(good guys) some much needed time and possibley allow Gara enough recooping time to become a factor(though I'm still weirded out by that smile when he was captured a few chapters back). Deidara expended to much energy obtaining Gara in the first place so s/he's not much of a factor. Sasori will be some what of a factor, but Bachan will handle her grandchild. Anyaway that's all I have to say for the moment.

[B166ER]

Well I think I can explain everything perfectly. There is no doubt that Kakashi has copied the Mangekyou, his nickname is "Copy Ninja Kakashi" for pete sakes.
the mangekyou sharingan isn't a jutsu... that's a sort of sharingan, an eye, something biological, it can't be "copied"...

[Daisumaru]

Well I think I can explain everything perfectly. There is no doubt that Kakashi has copied the Mangekyou, his nickname is "Copy Ninja Kakashi" for pete sakes.
the mangekyou sharingan isn't a jutsu... that's a sort of sharingan, an eye, something biological, it can't be "copied"...

Eh, baka think before you post a correction. The Mangekyou is part of a kekkei genkai(obviously the sharingan) which is an inheirted jutsu through DNA. Which means that it would be impossible to copy with different eyes, however since Kakashi carries the eyes in which that jutsu dwells it logical that he could copy it like any other normal technique. Sue me for not dumbing it done the first time, I figured everyone here was intelligent enough to figure that part out on their own. Anything else you need more explanation on?

Sorry if I sound hostile, but belittle me and I belittle back.

[graff]

i dont think so and this is not me trying to belittle you im just trying to have a discussion. its said by sauskes dad that mangekyou is an advancement of the sharingan...not an actuall jutsu. you can sort of think of it as a fourth tear thing. its part of the blood line and even blood line abilities cant be copied by a person with the same blood line. think about it when sauske faced itachi with his two teared sharingan he didnt learn how to use the third tear.

also your theory about the mangekyou is wrong cause that is the actuall sharingan. the jutsu that it uses to create the genjutsu requires the mangekyou but its called tsukiyomi or something like that.

and please dont get hostile with other people cause im sure he probably didnt want to put a long post like im taking the time to do.

[silverfangbreed]

the thing about him having the magnekyou eye is that it is suposed to be dangerous if used to long yet kakashis sharigan seems to constantly be active am i right it could be just an advanced more powerful level one sharigan and im very douhtful he killed which does not explain sauske

[graff]

explain cause i dont know what your getting at. and if your saying that theres only one way to get the mangekyou you may want to watch 130 again when sauske asks his dad about the mangekyou. and dl the new high quality chapter from shannaro. it explains alout more or just see my post.

[silverfangbreed]

what chapter was it explained in detail

[graff]

if you mean the whole kakashi itachi conversationn then it was in the newest 257 by shannaro you can get that at naruto central. if your talking about the discussion with sauske and his dad then youll have to watch 130 i dont know the specific chapter.

[silverfangbreed]

I cant watch the episodes my internet sucks

[Daisumaru]

i dont think so and this is not me trying to belittle you im just trying to have a discussion.

He worded it in a manner of pointing out someone not knowing what they're talking about.

Sorry I realized the jutsu was different from the Mangekyou. They just go hand and hand. I mean it's not likely that someone taught Itachi that technique(not impossible just unlikely based on what facts we have at the momment). Maybe I'm wrong and kakashi managed to copy the genjutsu, but not the Mangekyou. I somewhat assumed that you couldn't gain one without the other. From what I've understood you can't use that Genjutsu without that eye.

[graff]

now that i agree with you on he could have copied tsukiyomi without knowing it or what it was but when and if he gained it he figured out what it was and that it neede mangekyou.

[Daisumaru]

Oh well I'm sure we'll know for sure next week. Though I will say if he didn't manage to copy the Mangekyou I'd be suprised. After all Sasuke sounded rather certain that there was another way to gain it. Though I geuss Kishimoto, his assistants and editor are the only ones who know the truth for now ^.^.

[7hat1kid]

Also to cover the speculation on the Akatsuki members they're currently at nine members, Oro was the 10th. The obvious explanation to this if you hadn't been reading previous statements by Jiraiya about the Akastuki word for word or the image featuring all nine current members, is the statue itself. They are all standing on fingertips (which the statue has ten like a normal human hand).

I don't know where you counted nine members at because I only counted seven.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/7hat1kid/proof2.jpg

*edit*
Ok I was wrong on this matter. It seems I should have dont a little better research before posting this. I appologize for my mis guided information.

[B166ER]

I cant watch the episodes my internet sucks
don't worry the anime sucks too ^^ (ooops I have the feeling I'm about to get my ass kicked ^^)

[emiare_pac]

No worries 7hat1kid...
Narutochaos.com has released the torrent for HQ episode of shannaro and apparently inane's verison is coming out sometime within the next 24hours..
hopefulyl!! I really want to see the translation changes they have made, so maybe i can understand the " [itachi] How bad have your eyes gotten" - kakashi...

[Trinity210]

Narutofan has the high-quality version by Shannaro available to download, and their translator put in a whole page of notes explaining how he translated the exchange between Kakashi and Itachi. The page actually has the original katakana (or is it hiragana?) with the English words below it, and he explained why he translated it the way he did. From what he said, Kakashi's comment about Itachi's eyesight having gotten worse appears to be literal rather than a metaphorical reference to observational skills or some such.

[Byakuringan]

I might be a little late with this one.....
Has anyone noticed that Sasori went to Gaara and Itachi went to Naruto???
Who sees a pattern in that?????
I say each akatsuki member will return to their original village to find a demon :D
WAY off the at speculation but it looks that way.... We're finally gonna see the other villages!!!!
There's a theory somewhere that kisame's already got his power cause he looks like a shark... Then that would mean the plant dude is already possessed... I wanna know what y'all think

[graff]

yeah i had noticed that to. its interesting really i thought that they would have done it with some sort of heirarchy according to power.

[B166ER]

I might be a little late with this one.....
Has anyone noticed that Sasori went to Gaara and Itachi went to Naruto???
Who sees a pattern in that?????
I say each akatsuki member will return to their original village to find a demon :D
WAY off the at speculation but it looks that way.... We're finally gonna see the other villages!!!!

There's a theory somewhere that kisame's already got his power cause he looks like a shark... Then that would mean the plant dude is already possessed... I wanna know what y'all think
though it seems like gaara was for deidara, sasori was only here to accompany him.

[race84as]

i still think itachi told sasuke to kill his closest friend only to ensure that sasuke leads a dark path, i really doubt that its the only way of obtaining the mangekyou sharingan.

[hanabi]

neji should die he isn t strong enough,he isn t like itachi a super genious so he can t honour anymore the hyuga clan.Maybe Hanabi can who knows?

[graff]

wow when you post something like that dont be so biased about a character. neji is a super genious he taught himself all of those moves which were supposed to be specific to only the head family.

i still think itachi told sasuke to kill his closest friend only to ensure that sasuke leads a dark path, i really doubt that its the only way of obtaining the mangekyou sharingan.

and your right when you watch episode 130 when sauske asks his dad about the mangekyou sharingan his dad said that ther are requirements which means different ways thats why i think that kakashi has the mangekyou now.

[Divinedemon]

there may be other requirements to get the mangekyou but i think his dad was still referring to the uhicha bloodline so its still in speculation

[Chaoticfury]

hmmm i wonder what neji can do now, after the three years i mean, he was already raw as hell against that err spider dude

[Divinedemon]

any techniques he has learned in those 3 years are an advancement of his style since he already knows the others and given his 100% chakra control it probably increased to like 120% meaning he doesnt have to concentrate to control it

[Chaoticfury]

i wonder if he has total conrtol over that blind spot and maybe he can do that 128 hit tenketsu point thing like the game now

[graff]

there may be other requirements to get the mangekyou but i think his dad was still referring to the uhicha bloodline so its still in speculation

but why would he be referring to requiring the blood when hes talking to his family no one outside the clan is going to know about mangekyou.

[Divinedemon]

his dad wasnt a dumb man secrets of each clan leak out eventually as you can see how almost everyone knos about it now

[Chaoticfury]

im confused what did his dad say about the mangekyou and how does it leak out or relate or w/e to the bloodline

[Divinedemon]

his dad was enlightening sasuske about the secrets if the mangekyou. Shino is saying that his dad has no idea about kakashi ever knowing about it. im trying to say that his dad wasnt dumb as to think secrets remain secrets forever

[hanabi]

Shino18,neji isn t the super genious of hyuga clan like itachi is for uchiha clan,coz
with 16 years and with the hiashi training now he should be an elite jounin with his own students but unfortenately he is weak making stupid atacks for a guy with the power of jyuuken being abble to use it for long range like he did with hinata,so for the story he is only one more ninja.The super genious of the story are
gaara naruto sasuke sakura itachi kakashi or the sannins.

[Daisumaru]

You're wrong he's the only from the two class years in Konoha to achieve Jounin. Odds are they would probably not be jumping people ahead as quickly as they did when Itachi and Kakashi where young. Put simply they are not currently at war. Also for Neji to of achieved what he was stated as being a genius of the Hyuuga clan. Not to mention if that's the way you look at it how is Sasuke a genius nin when he had to cheat for his power?

[hanabi]

i wonder if he has total conrtol over that blind spot and maybe he can do that 128 hit tenketsu point thing like the game now
it doesn t matter if he controls the blind spot he is weak and slow,so he can t hit the target.Hyuga clan needs a super genious for honour their story probably that ninja is hanabi i mean kishi created him for something i guess or the hyuga clan is out of this story,coz nobody needs of a bloodline user with regular and normal powers for that we have Lee.So neji s dead is good for the story,his presence like a failure become the hyuga clan as unnecessary in the story.

[Daisumaru]

Just shut up Hanabi before you piss someone off. You don't know what you're talking about and you are losing in this argument to an extreme so please stop fighting a battle that's long over.

[hanabi]

You're wrong he's the only from the two class years in Konoha to achieve Jounin. Odds are they would probably not be jumping people ahead as quickly as they did when Itachi and Kakashi where young. Put simply they are not currently at war. Also for Neji to of achieved what he was stated as being a genius of the Hyuuga clan. Not to mention if that's the way you look at it how is Sasuke a genius nin when he had to cheat for his power?
good point but for me kishi sent us a message with that fight,and that is neji isnt the guy expected by hyuga clan,simply i don t see itachi making that mistake and with his age he killed alone uchiha clan,do you think neji can kill alone the hyuga clan? i dont think so.
Sasuke never had the leader of uchiha clan teaching him everything like neji in the past 3 years.For me hiashi is stronger than gai and even than kisame without youma of course,do you remember of konoha invasion,that hiashi would kill very easily the present neji coz he is a regular ninja like ten ten or lee or else he wouldn t be traped by that low level jutsu,a brat like kisame said without making difference from lee or ten ten and they are chunnins.

[Daisumaru]

Kakashi got caught in it in the Land of the Wave story arc. It is not a weak Tech.

[graff]

thats a jounnin technique and it wont be hard for him to escape cause all he has to do is force chakara from his body like he does with kaiten. and when was it said that he trained with hihashi.

[hanabi]

thats a jounnin technique and it wont be hard for him to escape cause all he has to do is force chakara from his body like he does with kaiten. and when was it said that he trained with hihashi.
well,that jutsu has the same level of kurenai genjutsu against Itachi and itachi said a genjutsu of that level doesn t work against me,so i am comparing itachi with neji not in my perspective but in the perspective of kishimoto for the future of both.Yeah,in logic therms neji should be abble to break the water prison,but i don t believe that is going happen,however we will see next week,but the point is the mistake of neji,once more that is a terrible mistake for a super genious and more than that with the power of jyuuken who allows him avoid that and more if you saw the fight zabuza kakashi a jounin level fight the first atacks are always made by bunshins so i think kishi is trying to tell us neji is a weak jounin or else he would be an elite jounin with students or anbu captain like itachi(with 13).Finally neji trained with Hiashi you must watch again the manga238.So if neji can t be the supergenious of hyuga clan maybe someone else like hanabi can but i guess the next manga is decisive for that let s wait and see.

[graff]

wait wasnt it said that neji was more of a genious than hinabi during the chuunin exams. and you cant compare genjutsu agains the sharingan cause the sharingan sees through all jutsus including illusions thats clearly stated early on. and ill go and checck on 238

[Divinedemon]

yea when sasuke was fighten the masked people usin the water clones he could see the chakra flow in the fakes

[hanabi]

wait wasnt it said that neji was more of a genious than hinabi during the chuunin exams. and you cant compare genjutsu agains the sharingan cause the sharingan sees through all jutsus including illusions thats clearly stated early on. and ill go and checck on 238
Well,the story of konoha proves being a super genious is making awesome progresses all the time,with 7 years Hanabi was stronger than hinata with 12,so
hiashi only said probably neji has more talent than you hanabi,but now when in a fight we don t see any difference in the fight, between neji and lee or ten ten,and kisame treat them like brats can t you see, neji isn t shinning anything kisame didn t say that brat neji is awesome you see,and by other way naruto is going to be the backup of kakashi sakura now has a tremendous strengh medical specialist and her strong point is genjutsu kakashi even said she will be a better woman than tsunade,naruto also said kakashi has a better taijutsu than lee or smell than kiba or controls better the sharingan than sasuke or he is smarter than shikamaru,so what about neji? nothing,by the way he also said sakura had great control of chakra,finally i can compare genjutsu coz is a question of levels,and about sharingan,that is the key point sharingan have always another level and what about byakugan?nothing when neji fought with hinata neji could read with byakugan the feelings or intentions by the eyes now where is that power and the jyuuken perfect for atack at long range without the need of touch the opponents and more destroying the internal organs,one more time nothing.In the fight against zabuza kakashi never saw trough ilusions,however more ahead sharingan can predict all the moviments and naruto in the fight against sasuke uses some kind of the jyuuken to hurt him but without the internal dammages or like asuma did against kisame can t you see neji isn t using the power of the byakugan.Why?coz kishi doesn t want see him shinning,that for me is very clear so i think the last hope is hanabi or another guy from hyuga clan or else that clan is finished

[Amatsu Mikaboshi]

you know i'm kind of upset we still havent seen Shino in the manga yet. shino got like the LEAST amount of time in the first part of the manga.i always saw him as a perfect anbu. i hope we see him again soon.

[hanabi]

you know i'm kind of upset we still havent seen Shino in the manga yet. shino got like the LEAST amount of time in the first part of the manga.i always saw him as a perfect anbu. i hope we see him again soon.
i hope so,i agree with you,shino absence is becoming too long.

[Divinedemon]

you know i'm kind of upset we still havent seen Shino in the manga yet. shino got like the LEAST amount of time in the first part of the manga.i always saw him as a perfect anbu. i hope we see him again soon.
i hope so,i agree with you,shino absence is becoming too long.
yea shino(even though his ability is strange) has to be one of the most talented ive seen in the village and he gets no air time? i find that disturbing

[7hat1kid]

You're wrong he's the only from the two class years in Konoha to achieve Jounin. Odds are they would probably not be jumping people ahead as quickly as they did when Itachi and Kakashi where young. Put simply they are not currently at war. Also for Neji to of achieved what he was stated as being a genius of the Hyuuga clan. Not to mention if that's the way you look at it how is Sasuke a genius nin when he had to cheat for his power?
good point but for me kishi sent us a message with that fight,and that is neji isnt the guy expected by hyuga clan,simply i don t see itachi making that mistake and with his age he killed alone uchiha clan,do you think neji can kill alone the hyuga clan? i dont think so.
Sasuke never had the leader of uchiha clan teaching him everything like neji in the past 3 years.For me hiashi is stronger than gai and even than kisame without youma of course,do you remember of konoha invasion,that hiashi would kill very easily the present neji coz he is a regular ninja like ten ten or lee or else he wouldn t be traped by that low level jutsu,a brat like kisame said without making difference from lee or ten ten and they are chunnins.

Omg your an idiot who apperetly doesn't put any though into any post you make. Now i'll say that i've made some pretty uninteligent posts before but your just rambling on and on and on. First off if Hanabi was supposed to be the star of the Hyuuga clan the she would have had more than like five seconds of acutaly time in the manga and anime. Second off Neji is way more of a Genious than Hanabi will ever me. He's from the branch family he's barely supposed to even be able to use the byukugan lets alone kaiten. He taught himself Kaiten and the combo hits he uses. He taught himself to be able to see the tenketsu and can use his byukagan way better than hinata even could and she's from the head family. Second off you say that he should be an elite jounin like Kakashi and try to make him seem inferior to kakashi when in fact kakashi was caught in very same technique. If it hadn't been for naruto he may not have gotten out. He defeated one of the sounds elite four by himself while still only at the rank of gennin. If you remember correctly even some of the leafs mid level jounins couldn't defeat them. Third off for all we know Neji could be an elite jounin and just not have team yet because he was needed for something else. And finally he's been stuck in the water bubble for what a whole minute maybe you haven't even given him time to escape yet. And you can trust that he will.

[race84as]

it seems to me like some people are forgetting who trapped neji in a water prison. kisame is an S ranked criminal for a reason, even though neji is a jounin he is still a fresh jounin. if kisame is possible stronger than itachi how can anyone expect neji to be able to fight him head on. i know neji is a genius and im a fan of his but it would take an experienced jounin like gai to go toe to toe with someone as dangerous as kisame.

[Omaki_Roku]

nobody is saying Neji is going to beat kisime, they are just stating that he will be the one to break the water prison and help gai

[Omaki_Roku]

Man
i just skipped back and read page 7 and felt ten times stupider after reading Hanbis posts?

Neji Weak Slow?!!!
Sauske a super Genius of the Uchiha family?

Somebody take a gun and put this person out their misery

Sauske is far from a super genius
In the prelims he got easily beaten by Rock Lee, and Rock lee Couldnt even Beat Neji, So how you figure that Sauske to be More elite than neji?

And if you remember right, in the Prelims when Kakashi was explaining the diffrences between the Sharingan and bayakuygen He Said these exact words

"OUR SAUSKE IS NO MATCH FOR SOMEBODY LIKE HIM"

Sauske is no where near the genius of Neji

Neji is a self trained genius, something far diffrent than itachi or Sauske

Itachi was a pupil of the Mirage

Neji until now had no teacher.
If neji was taught as a full fledged Family member, I think hed Be the Nusiance that itachi was at an early age.

As for Sauske vs Neji now,
You can now give him the edge now since he Sold out to get the Curse Level 2, but Trust me if he had no Curse level and just went without it, Neji would Of obliterated him easily.

As for being slow,,, I guess you were blind to see his speed against Kido and him doubling the speed of the Fist of Divinity.

Neji is Fast hes far From slow.


You have no facts hanabi to back anything
quit typing up delusions when you have no basis for your arguments, you make naruto fans look bad

[graff]

thanx youve put what ive thought into words of eloquence.

[hanabi]

You're wrong he's the only from the two class years in Konoha to achieve Jounin. Odds are they would probably not be jumping people ahead as quickly as they did when Itachi and Kakashi where young. Put simply they are not currently at war. Also for Neji to of achieved what he was stated as being a genius of the Hyuuga clan. Not to mention if that's the way you look at it how is Sasuke a genius nin when he had to cheat for his power?
good point but for me kishi sent us a message with that fight,and that is neji isnt the guy expected by hyuga clan,simply i don t see itachi making that mistake and with his age he killed alone uchiha clan,do you think neji can kill alone the hyuga clan? i dont think so.
Sasuke never had the leader of uchiha clan teaching him everything like neji in the past 3 years.For me hiashi is stronger than gai and even than kisame without youma of course,do you remember of konoha invasion,that hiashi would kill very easily the present neji coz he is a regular ninja like ten ten or lee or else he wouldn t be traped by that low level jutsu,a brat like kisame said without making difference from lee or ten ten and they are chunnins.

Omg your an idiot who apperetly doesn't put any though into any post you make. Now i'll say that i've made some pretty uninteligent posts before but your just rambling on and on and on. First off if Hanabi was supposed to be the star of the Hyuuga clan the she would have had more than like five seconds of acutaly time in the manga and anime. Second off Neji is way more of a Genious than Hanabi will ever me. He's from the branch family he's barely supposed to even be able to use the byukugan lets alone kaiten. He taught himself Kaiten and the combo hits he uses. He taught himself to be able to see the tenketsu and can use his byukagan way better than hinata even could and she's from the head family. Second off you say that he should be an elite jounin like Kakashi and try to make him seem inferior to kakashi when in fact kakashi was caught in very same technique. If it hadn't been for naruto he may not have gotten out. He defeated one of the sounds elite four by himself while still only at the rank of gennin. If you remember correctly even some of the leafs mid level jounins couldn't defeat them. Third off for all we know Neji could be an elite jounin and just not have team yet because he was needed for something else. And finally he's been stuck in the water bubble for what a whole minute maybe you haven't even given him time to escape yet. And you can trust that he will.
what are you? the rage man,before you say stupid things pay attention to all my posts what i am saying is the perspective of kishimoto-san,and hanabi now has 9 years and probably he will be in the chunnin exame and neji only became chunnin with 13,asuma fought with kisame and i didn t see him dying in the first 5 seconds,more than kakashi i am comparing itachi with neji and there is a big difference.When i m saying neji is slow is only in leg speed not arm speed,coz i never saw him fighting like lee or sasuke.What mid level jounins can t defeat neji?the sound 4 fought together with cursed seal level2 against 2 jounins and they only won coz they were with low chakra and neji almost died for kill kidou but worse than that kishi i said kishi not me tried to make him stupid,coz with byakugan he had the chance of seing him and atack the guy but he stayed there waiting,come on, you think that is serious.Please calm down this isn t a war only a discussion.
About what Omaki roku said and his words of eloquence,i only can say is if you want to be a great naruto fan you must insult the others, don t pay attention in all the posts and if you don t agree with something easy insults,that is a good fanboy be a fanatic is good,so i like to admire something but be fanatic no,about sasuke,if itachi is a super genious and orochimaru said sasuke has more potential it is obvious sasuke is a super genious too,yes lee won against sasuke and in a month sasuke had the same speed of lee,so lee said «sasuke you are a super genious i needed years for reach to that speed»years get it,and lee and neji are older than sasuke 1 year.sasuke trained alone coz the uchiha clan was dead so he is a self trained genious but i, now am i not kishimoto-san, think byakugan is a more complete doujutsu than sharingan but in the previous posts i tried to show kishi s side and that is neji is staying down when we compare him with itachi.Finally i think neji should be stronger than sasuke( or have the same level with a different power ) coz of byakugan but in the story sharingan has always another level and byakugan not and other characters are using the potential of hyuga powers like asuma or naruto as i said in my previous posts and i explained how is that too.Greets for all of you and when you dont t agree with someone don t insult me coz you don t know me,so discusse the facts not your feelings.

[B166ER]

who's hanabi ? :wink:
(I have the feeling I'm bout to get murdered ^^)

[Omaki_Roku]

sorry sauske is not a selftrained genius he has learned nothing on his own

His father taught him the koton ryu no jitsu
Kakashi taught him the chidori
He copied Lee's Speed and had help from kakashi to achive it


Neji learned everything he knows from scratch, no father and Gai didnt teach him those moves, only neji himself learned his current Jitsus.


like i said before
if your gonna state things like they are facts
please have a basis before you do so

[graff]

hanabi is a person who we havent seen but he is claiming that she is the hyugga genious. ohhh and please hanabi dont assume where or what kishimoto is doing. and neji is the only one who even stood a chance agains kidomaru.

[cluemein]

Neji should have seen kisame's attack coming he's quite a worthless genious yeah.
havent seen hanabi yet so i aint saying nothing

[Divinedemon]

if they didnt have neji on the shikamaru mission then they wouldve been destroyed by kidomaru since he was the only person able to cut his thread

[Bergmann]

For anyone who cares, I thought up Kisames jutu combo some while ago, a bit after the Zazuba fight. It was originally thought up for Kakashi, Water bushin into water prison. Come on, thats brillant!! And whats more, its functionable and plausable!

Thankyou Kisimoto for using your head.

[Daisumaru]

who's hanabi ? :wink:
(I have the feeling I'm bout to get murdered ^^)

Hinata's little sister.

[ROCK_LEE_BOGARD]

I think Kakashi might have Mangekyou Sharingan. It's gonna be awesome to see what he has learned.


this is exactly what i was thinking..
No. Really though, I dont think that would ever happen and if it does, Im stopping reading Naruto because that would just be incredibly lame of Kishimoto.


Anyway, I get the feeling that this "eyesight" thing that Kakashi's talking about isn't really referring to Itachi's real eyesight. Its probably just a little boasting from Kakashi like "I figured you out, what now?!". At least Im hoping this is how it is because first of all, they weren't even talking about his normal eyesight before Kakashi said that, and second of all it would just be completely out of no where and stupid.

In any case, Itachi seems a little annoyed at Kakashi's arrogance, so Im guessing that Itachi will somehow pull something out of his ass since its a 4v1 fight. Gai also seems pretty pissed off, so Im excited to see whats up there.

Yes because losing eyesight isn't a lame concept, I very much doubt thats what KAkashi meant by his comment. I believe Kakashi either learned Mangekyou or some other vague jutsu. Also not reading anymore of the series because of something so trivial is even more lame. Who cares?

[0rion]

Wouldn't be too surprised if Kakashi had the Mangekyo though since he has already advanced the Sharingan by himself. However, even though he "may" have the Mangekyo it would still be lots weaker than Itachi's since he doesn't have "Uchiha blood" flowing inside him - which means he can probably only do 1 jutsu before he loses all his chakra. Pure speculation but nevertheless just a guess :)

Well Kakashi must be gained something very powerful otherwise he wouldn't want to go 1v1 versus Itachi, but he told Naruto and co. to be backup which means its remotely possible that Kakashi is within Itachis range in terms of power.

Btw, Hanabi it's obvious that you are heavily biased towards Hanabi but until Hanabi gets some "showtime" in the anime, arguments based on Hanabi being the "genius" Hyuuga has been waiting for is just bs.

[Omaki_Roku]

Calling it....

neji is going to break that water prison


he broke the spider webs
he will break the water prison

his chakara controll was outragous back then
it should be even greater now


the younger kids will shine



and besides...neji is a jounin now meaning hes now in the ranks of Gai and kakashi, he should be able to handle this situation some how some way




Im mega super awesome

I was right
neji broke the water prison as predicted!!


and hanabi said neji was weak...Psssh whatever

Neji just did what kakashi himself wasnt able to do.


Neji is the man!!!