Uchiha Obito

[shadowmagus]

iono if there is a thread already existing for this but if there is lock this one.

what are the chances of obito still beign alive? it would put a couple pieces together and add more depth to the story. 3rd person to manage mangekyo sharingan. when itachi said that they would never be forgiven if kakashi was killed. think about how kakashi would react and stuff! long shot! but it would be awesome!

[RandomGuy]

Hes most likely dead. Half his body crushed by a huge rock, his eye gouged out, and then they left him and most likely did not send for someone to rescue him. The only person who went to rescue was the 4th, and he would said if Obito survived.

[BlueSpider]

quite an imagination you have there. im quite sure hes dead as he had a funeral has a grave and his name engraved on the wall of war heroes.

[B166ER]

yeah but nobody ever saw his body, when the 4th rescued kakashi and rin they were already far away from where obito "died", wich was somewhere already under the rock control, that's why yondaime might have not tried to get his body, and that would explain why itachi said that "3 ppl can get the mangekyou sharingan" (there's a thread about this)

[BlueSpider]

youll notice the rock crushed one of the eyes....the good eye is in kakashi. so no sharingan for obito even if he was alive. oh and kakashi and rin were attacked WHILE kakashi was pulling rin out of the small cave thing where obito was lying so they would have been close to the body. and there was no way obito was gettin out on his own

[pretear]

obito is really dead. no one can survive from your body being crushed. his body was surronded by rocks and his eye is gone. if he was alive, he might just want to be dead. In konoh he is dead. his neme is on the stone for heros.

[narutoIZZAbest]

yea, but maybe! MAYBE!! Obito might have some kind of artificial eye!

nah , just kidding ....
i really don't think anyone could escape from a falling rocks ^^;

[graff]

but its true it really would explain alout of things as well as add a whole new arc about kakashi. i dont really understand the purpose of doint the whole kakashi gaiden for simply telling how he got his sharingan cause they could have done that with a simple yet infamous flashback.

i just dont buy that they did an entire volume on kakashi yet it only served to show how he got his eye. at least imo

[Radeon]

Well, a popular theory for the long tangent is that it was to add a real time gap to the story's 3 year time gap...

[BlueSpider]

wow people started argueing with me using my arguements

[kwint]

Man this is like arguing if Tupac is still alive.

[nawar]

it is imposible for him to b alive because

* 1, he was crushed like the bugs on my desk
*2 , they made it perfectly clear that he has the surviver instinct, if he was alive, he would be trying to kick kakashis ass from the beginning

[wolfgang_alk]

i really dont care about this guy he uses glasses and has sharingan but what is this guy being alive explain

[race84as]

Man this is like arguing if Tupac is still alive.



lol, its very hard to believe that obito managed to survive unless someone snuck in to take what was left of obito and took him away b4 yondaime arrived to save kakashi and rin.

if the right side of his head was completely crushed then wouldn't all the blood rush to the left side of his head causing his left eye to pop out?

[nawar]

hehe....details....details....;)

[RandomGuy]

but its true it really would explain alout of things as well as add a whole new arc about kakashi. i dont really understand the purpose of doint the whole kakashi gaiden for simply telling how he got his sharingan cause they could have done that with a simple yet infamous flashback.

i just dont buy that they did an entire volume on kakashi yet it only served to show how he got his eye. at least imo

Lol....Im sure Kishimoto will find a less lame way to explain things...I can't imagine "Kakashi, Im back from the dead and Ive replaced both my eyes and half my body. In addition to that, my non-Uchiha eyes somehow managed to awaken the Sharingan AGAIN, and I imagined that I had killed you so I would gain the Mangekyou Sharingan. We had a lot of drama for when I died, but I decided that wasn't enough so I came back to life, and to add even more drama, I randomly decided to become evil! Hahahahaha...."

Ok, Kakashi's Sharingan is pretty central to his character. Do you think they could do the story of getting his eye honors by just having a single flashback? Not only that, the "entire volume on kakashi" did not only serve to show how he got his eye. It introduced 4th Hokage, Obito, Rin, and Kakashi as a child. It explained why Kakashi was obsessed with following the rules. It showed the transition from great rivals to absolute best friends between Kakashi and Obito, AND it explained how Kakashi got his Sharingan.

If you think about it, this is a lot more material than a normal volume contains. Think about when Naruto and his team were chasing the Sound 4 to get back Sasuke. Almost all of Volume 22 was just involved with Kidoumaru. If you can't believe that Kakashi's "volume" only explained his Sharingan (of course it explained much more than that, as I have said), then you must have been in constant disbelief after reading volume 22.

I find it pretty strange how you can't buy the fact that they would make a whole volume on that story for Kakashi, and yet you can buy that Kishimoto would be lame enough to bring Kakashi's friend back to life against all odds.

[wolfgang_alk]

it was a pity but they could fix that with a flashback scene or something to do to stay away from the comics

[graff]

i never said that he was still alive i said that it would explain somethings like the third person who could use the mange sharingan.

and yes i agree with you now it did serve to show why hes always lazy until it comes right down to it among a bunch of other things i just had never really considered it.

(opens mouth and inserts foot)

[Byakuringan]

when itachi talked about the 3 ppl who can use mange...
i think the 3rd WAS obito but he's a goner...
his sharingan is in kakashi's head which means KAKASHI would have to kill his closest friend which isnt gonna happen... so there are only 3 users IN THEORY whereas kakashi can't kill his closest friend cause, as he says when arguing against sasuke over revenge with a strange smirk "all the people i care about are dead"
either that or there's some exiled uchiha somewhere

[Aurora Dark]

Consider the timeline for a second.

Obito was alive when the Uchiha clan was still alive as well, correct? The massacre did not happen -that- long ago. Obito, had he lived, would've been a young-ish adult in the Uchiha village at the time of the Itachi massacre stuff.

Sooo...

How could a normal kid (he had a good spirit, but he was no superhuman) whose eyes are removed (essentially), manage to survive having boulders crushed on top of him, and eventually become powerful enough, with -new- Sharingan eyes, to survive the massacre, unknown to Itachi in the village, and yet somehow pose a threat to Itachi later? Why would Itachi even care about some kid that had died before he even did his whole 'rise to power' thing in the first place? :lol: Kakashi wasn't -that- young when Itachi was doing this, so Obito would be the same age. Wouldn't Obito had already gotten the Mangekyou, OR killed his "best friend" Kakashi to get it, LONG BEFORE he was old enough for a younger Itachi to talk about him possibly getting it?
All this being considered about someone that died a rather gruesome death.

uhhh... okay, this theory is too weird for me. Creative, yes. Realistic, not at all.



EDIT: Oh, btw.
There is a thread like this (speculation over who the 3rd MS could belong to), but little of the discussion centers on Obito, from what I can tell. I'm leaving this one up and everything, because it seems to explain a lot more about him, since we're not including other Mangekyou Sharingan candidates ;)

[graff]

it was a pity but they could fix that with a flashback scene or something to do to stay away from the comics

that might be what they do...you know start the episode off with kakashi at that fallen soldiers shrine and then have that one anbu chick come up and ask him what hes thinking then go to the flash back of the gaiden. thats the most sensible way to do it to me but then again they may make it to just take up episodes because of how close the anime is to the manga.

[race84as]

i hope the anime ppl take a year off from making the naruto anime after they are done with part one cuz if they get too close they would put alot of pressure on kishimoto and would probably have a bunch of terrible fillers that are untrue to the manga.

[shadowmagus]

the only way this can all work is if our little obito here got help from someone else. prolly not a leaf nin. this would have to be one helluva kickass ninja tho. something like tsunade. someone like akatsuki level. im not sure but i think it said that 3 people could handle the ms. not just use it.so obito wouldnt have to get it just be able to resist.

[graff]

thats what i thought too and those three people that can handle it are imo
naruto
sauske
kisame or gai

[Super_Pervert]

Ummm. Ad I thought Itachi just became Jounin when he did the asacre so he would be about 16 giving Obito a few, maybe 6 at the least i suppose, years to train. There is a possibility Obito had it all planned and used a Genjutsu so he can make believe that he died and let kakashi have his eye. Of course that is pretty improbable. But I believe Obito did die and Tupac is sad others are comparing him to a manga/anime :D,well his death

[Aurora Dark]

There is a possibility Obito had it all planned and used a Genjutsu so he can make believe that he died and let kakashi have his eye. Of course that is pretty improbable.
I see no evidence of that plan at all... :?

Obito did not even show signs of knowing any advanced genjutsu... how would he be able to pull off that major of a stunt?

Until I see some proof, I can't buy into that theory :P

[RandomGuy]

There is a possibility Obito had it all planned and used a Genjutsu so he can make believe that he died and let kakashi have his eye. Of course that is pretty improbable.
Yep, hes only pretending to have lost his only remaining eye to Kakashi. In reality, Kakashi's Sharingan is a fake! :twisted:

[kwint]

Well, if you remember back when they showed all the akatsuki memebers in the shadows, there was a nother guy with what looked like an eye bloodline limit. He had different rings in his eyes. Maybe its him that can handle it. (mangekyou sharingan)

[shadowmagus]

on what flippin basis does everyone think taht naruto can handle mange sharingan!??! i see no proof whatsoever

[venin]

obito is dead as can be if he isnt then he is a james bond type of a spy and naruto can fight mange sharingan without looking into it i think

[BlueSpider]

there seems to be a giant misunderstanding over the word handle.....itachi desdcibed it as 3 can can USE mangakyo sharingan...not fight against it....even gai knew not to look at itachis eyes.
obito is dead....and if he was alive hed be a half man half cyborg with no eyes. no eyes = no sharingan = no mangekyo sharingan.
cant be kakashi either...if he could use it itachi wouldnt have dropped him in 3 seconds.

[B166ER]

what makes you so sure about obito's death. Don't you think that kishimoto did not show us his body on purpose ? He's not the kinda guy to forget aboiut details. And since the last time we saw him, he wasn't dead yet we can't say there's no way for him to be alive. That would be kewl (yeah I like the sharingan concept and I'd want to see a real fight between two sharingan users), and that would explain few things.

[Aurora Dark]

what makes you so sure about obito's death. Don't you think that kishimoto did not show us his body on purpose ? He's not the kinda guy to forget aboiut details. And since the last time we saw him, he wasn't dead yet we can't say there's no way for him to be alive. That would be kewl (yeah I like the sharingan concept and I'd want to see a real fight between two sharingan users), and that would explain few things.
he was buried beneath a downpour of rocks... we wouldn't have been able to see the body :?

He is there at the cemetary... I doubt Konoha would've given a grave space to someone whose death was never official.

[RandomGuy]

what makes you so sure about obito's death. Don't you think that kishimoto did not show us his body on purpose ? He's not the kinda guy to forget aboiut details. And since the last time we saw him, he wasn't dead yet we can't say there's no way for him to be alive. That would be kewl (yeah I like the sharingan concept and I'd want to see a real fight between two sharingan users), and that would explain few things.

Ugh...read my post on the top of page 2 and if you still have an argument against it, please do tell. Otherwise I hope this thread gets locked.

[Aurora Dark]

what makes you so sure about obito's death. Don't you think that kishimoto did not show us his body on purpose ? He's not the kinda guy to forget aboiut details. And since the last time we saw him, he wasn't dead yet we can't say there's no way for him to be alive. That would be kewl (yeah I like the sharingan concept and I'd want to see a real fight between two sharingan users), and that would explain few things.

Ugh...read my post on the top of page 2 and if you still have an argument against it, please do tell. Otherwise I hope this thread gets locked.
There is no justifiable reason to lock this thread.

If it does not violate our rules, it won't be locked. The validity or creativity or whatever personal opinions about a thread do not justify its worth here, our rules do :P

[kujikaze]

Maybe some1 got a hold of Obito dead body, somehow, found the secret to Sharingan and developed mangenkyou sharingan.....its a probability

[RandomGuy]

There is no justifiable reason to lock this thread.

If it does not violate our rules, it won't be locked. The validity or creativity or whatever personal opinions about a thread do not justify its worth here, our rules do

My bad then :P

I just saw a poll in the Anime section for Jirobou vs Tayuya locked down, but I guess I mistook this to be the same sort of thing. :?

[BlueSpider]

what makes you so sure about obito's death. Don't you think that kishimoto did not show us his body on purpose ? He's not the kinda guy to forget aboiut details. And since the last time we saw him, he wasn't dead yet we can't say there's no way for him to be alive. That would be kewl (yeah I like the sharingan concept and I'd want to see a real fight between two sharingan users), and that would explain few things.
him actually having sharingan would require some explaining....one is crushed and the other is kakashi. or did obito go on an uchiha eye stealing spree when he magically rose from the grave?

[Allister]

I thought Obito came back? He cant be dead that quick, I thought he'd last at least until chapter 260....

[Hatake_Kakashi]

Obito got half his body crushed and his other eye removed. if he was still alive (which im 99.9% sure hes not) he wouldnt even have the sharingan anymore. also he would probably die in a very short ammount of time after he got crushed. i dont think anyone would be able to save him.

[B166ER]

what makes you so sure about obito's death. Don't you think that kishimoto did not show us his body on purpose ? He's not the kinda guy to forget aboiut details. And since the last time we saw him, he wasn't dead yet we can't say there's no way for him to be alive. That would be kewl (yeah I like the sharingan concept and I'd want to see a real fight between two sharingan users), and that would explain few things.
him actually having sharingan would require some explaining....one is crushed and the other is kakashi. or did obito go on an uchiha eye stealing spree when he magically rose from the grave?his sharingan hasn't been "crushed" we didn't see what damages it took, and such wound can be easily healed with medical jutsu. I'm still standing my point. Even though there's very few chances for him to be alive, we can't assume the contrary.

[race84as]

i highly doubt any village would leave a any of their ninjas' dead bodys lying around ESPECIALLY if it has a bloodline limit. i imagine someone from konoha was sent to pick up what was left, i mean his family and village would want him to have a traditional burial especially since he died FOR his village with honor.

[B166ER]

his body was in the rock territory, konoha couldn't just send few shinobi to take obito's body it would have been difficult and they weren't even sure that he hadn't been moved.

[Uchiha Adrian]

i seriously doubt he is alive.

[saiyanjw]

the boys is dead people even if he were alive he would want to be dead. for christ sakes he would be blind. right eye is crushed and left eye kakashi has

[Naruto_Guru]

the boys is dead people even if he were alive he would want to be dead. for christ sakes he would be blind. right eye is crushed and left eye kakashi has

I totally agree with u and I find this very funny LoL... Oh yeah and I say hes dead cuz he got his hole right side crushed and then he was smashed again....DUH

[dumboy]

he is d e a d.

[ColleenS]

Can someone tell me who Obito is? And/or where in the manga he is introduced? I want to learn about this part of Kakashi's past... I never knew about this!

[Aurora Dark]

Can someone tell me who Obito is? And/or where in the manga he is introduced? I want to learn about this part of Kakashi's past... I never knew about this!
They told the story of Obito and Kakashi in relatively recent manga chapters... just before the time jump happened.

[Rei]

From what I read hes related to Sasuke, and that he somehow survived Itachi's massacre of the Uchiha clan.

[Breatherton]

he died before the clan was killed....way before when kakashi was small

[Naruto_Guru]

Of course he died before the masaccre...He died when yodaime was still around.

[BlueSpider]

im finding it hard to believe weve managed four pages discussing whether obito could be alive with his sharingan. hes dead. he was buried. one eye is in kakashi, other eye was smashed into a pulp. End of story

[B166ER]

don't be so categoric, there are many things that could make us think that he's still alive. and about his body being crushed, the only things he needed for that was some jounin lvl medical jutsu...

[Dream_Walker]

Man this is like arguing if Tupac is still alive.
BUWHAHAHAHA! ROFL. that had me going for at least a minute .
anyways, obito's too cool to be akatsuki even though itachi said all that stuff about how their master would be mad if they killed kakashi. i see where your comming from but obito had no motive to turn evil. for all we know, it could be kakashi's dad (hey, wirieder things have happened).

chances are we're all wrong . nobody guessed garra would turn out kazekage right?

[thompkinsbrian]

the leader of akatsuki definitely isnt obito, cause everyone knows it is chino( ino and choji's bastard child) yes a three year old nin god.

obito could be alive. you know the first and second were raised frmo the dead huh. and only put under control when they had the seals put on them. maybe its a similar situation brought back off an experiament gone wrong.

plus it isnt completely in the eye if he had a new eye put in wouldnt his blod then move through it giving it the same powers as his original sharigan eye

[Dream_Walker]

plus it isnt completely in the eye if he had a new eye put in wouldnt his blod then move through it giving it the same powers as his original sharigan eye
oh yeah, i was gonna say that. it isn't the eye its more the uchia blood (and yes, its spelled B-L-O-O-D j/k j/k :P )

[thompkinsbrian]

yeah i am reknown for typos. thats why i think kakashi got the power not only cause of the eye itself but cause of teh blood that was in the eye

[kyougurlie57]

nahh he gotta be dead cause like the rocks crushed him http://narutofever.com/personality-tests/love-compatibility-tests/for-males/images/lovesasuke.jpg (http://narutofever.com/personality-tests/love-compatibility-tests/)

[thompkinsbrian]

he doesnt hae to be anything really. it is a cartoon.

[graff]

haha good point there.

[shadowmagus]

i must agree.

[Crym]

Maybe its the White Fang :shock: lol really though.. I mean cant it be real easy to fake ur death just some mediocre poison ? i dont know maybe i blew this way out there hehe.

[UchihaSasuke2000]

Obitos eye was real its just kakashi just isnt a uchiha clan member. it was different after it left obito AND kakashi hasnt mastered it yet.

[Omaki_Roku]

obito sucks, i hope hes dead

[CRtwenty]

What's wrong with Obito?

[jinkazama5]

He's a sissy...and cries a lot..and only used his sharingan for 5 seconds.... SISSY!!!! :twisted:

[CRtwenty]

Yea, but being crushed by a giant rock kind of cut the amount of time he could use it by a bit.

[Divinedemon]

i think obito coulda been a raw ninja in the future he was kinda scared of everything at the time but the mission changed all that and as soon as he realized his potential..... HE DIES! i mean talkin about crushin someones hopes and dreams (no pun intended)

[Vishox]

but its true it really would explain alout of things as well as add a whole new arc about kakashi. i dont really understand the purpose of doint the whole kakashi gaiden for simply telling how he got his sharingan cause they could have done that with a simple yet infamous flashback.

i just dont buy that they did an entire volume on kakashi yet it only served to show how he got his eye. at least imo

it could have just been a sside story so when it got back to the main it felt like a while since you last saw it. then you have all the characters grown up and that makes it feel more like a while has passed

[EgoBrain]

Even if he did manage to surive, firstly he would have no eyes,secondly he would have no right arm,leg, and his right hand side of his body would be gone, thirdly he was in enemy terrain, and forthly its impossible anyway. If the story suddenly comes up with a saga explaining how he got away and survived etc etc I would be seriously dissapointed with the way things are done. Neji and Chouji surviving was ok but obito too thats just ridiculous.

[shadowmagus]

iono i think you just dont like uchihas.

[S.O.U.L]

Even if he is alive no sharingan one eye with kakashi and other eye well.....sad story but everyone want other ppl to be alive obito-dead!yondaime-Dead!Uchiha sushi(watever itachi's friend)-dead!none of them is akutsukis leader ok????this is general fer those B------t threads!even good ppl die u know!peace!

[Mousie]

hes dead...he died...kakashi has his eye...babai XD

[TekIce]

maybe, while oroch was still in akustki. he tried getting the uchia powers by bringing obito from the dead. but before he could get the powers, obito got too strong and took over the group. and since he got a new body, he got he eyes back. :)

[gangsta510]

why is everyone still talking about who the akatsuki leader is, every one allready knows it's pein. and I think tobi is uchiha madara and he's still alive becouse mabe like orochimaru he can take over peoples bodys, and mabe when he saw obito crushed by the boulder he took over obito's. and mabe thats why he has the sharingan on one eye and mabe he wears the mask becouse one side of his face is fucked up after being crushed by the boulder. and mabe his waiting for sasuke to get stronger so he can take over sasukes body.http://narutowallpapers.vip-blog.com/medias/0507/narutowallpapers-vip-blog-com-24CS2_Sasuke_by_pokefreak.jpg

[samnas]

You are right, Pain is the AK leader, and Madara is the BOSS ...

Why would he choose to take someone's dead and broken body if he had the whole healthy and sexy Uchiha Clan right in front of him ... You are right in the similarities between the two, but why is he still able to walk with his broken body plus, obito's right side was totally crushed ...

[gangsta510]

samnas
Senior Member
Special Jounin

was you talking to me

[samnas]

gangsta510
Chaos Rookie

Who else am i talking to, if i didn't quoted anybody, that means i am talking to the person above me ...