View Full Version : Chapter 247
Chibionna
02-09-2005, 12:03 PM
Yeah! 247 is out! The raw of course.
Oh. My. God. I'm am trying so hard not to scream out of excitement. Please, I'm begging someone, PLEASE, make a translation. I am seriously trying so hard not to spoil anything. So all I will say is: Oh. My. God. So. Freaking. AWSOME!!!!!
Hm.. try this one
http://s25.yousendit.com/download.aspx
Or if that doesn't work go here: http://www.livejournal.com/users/myth720/
and there should be a link that tells brings you to the download. Or you can go to http://www.narutofan.com/
Umm....that goes to nothing...No RAW there.
*EDIT*
Thanks for the edit. :D
*In response to the chapter*
OMG, OMG, OMG WTF!!!1!one!
*ahem*
Please translate IMEDIATELY!!!
Ezequiel
02-09-2005, 01:18 PM
What the hell was that!!?? :P hehehehe...
Nice chapter, one wich makes you say... They are too &$%*ª@ short!! :x
But I´m glad they show Gaara in this one, and... Temari and Shika together :roll: :wink: :oops: hehehehehe... This is getting interesting :lol:
TRANSLATION NOOOOW!!!!!!!! please :P
Fluster
02-09-2005, 02:42 PM
MUST HAVE TRANSLATION............ :x
tarmac
02-09-2005, 03:52 PM
I wan't the acctual pages! Becuase OMG Gaara !!!! OMG!!!
Umm...I don't know how much anyone else has paid attention to the outfits being worn and the placement of characters in the scenes but it looks like (possible HUGE SPOILER) +Gaara is the Kazekage+
Just copy and paste this into a Word file and change the font to black if you want to read. I don't want to give away something that I might get killed for if it's true. 8)
B166ER
02-09-2005, 04:59 PM
yeah you're right, I can't believe it O_o
Umm...I don't know how much anyone else has paid attention to the outfits being worn and the placement of characters in the scenes but it looks like (possible HUGE SPOILER) +Gaara is the Kazekage+
Just copy and paste this into a Word file and change the font to black if you want to read. I don't want to give away something that I might get killed for if it's true. 8)
there's a translation available on the livejournal link >.>
so now they're claiming Gaara has "ichibi"... ¬.¬
Atasuki do nothing for 2 and a bit years, and now that Naruto's returned they convieniently decide to attack -.-
What live journal link?
*EDIT*
Never mind...*smacks head*
Wow, sucks for Naruto. I guess this will answer everyone's speculations as to what "rank" everyone is. Man, they just jumped right into the Akatsuki storyline didn't they?
Venom Unleashed
02-09-2005, 05:59 PM
What live journal link?
*EDIT*
Never mind...*smacks head*
Wow, sucks for Naruto. I guess this will answer everyone's speculations as to what "rank" everyone is. Man, they just jumped right into the Akatsuki storyline didn't they?
Thank God they did, i love the Akatsuki!!! :twisted: :twisted: They are a coalition of nine of the most badass ninjas in the entire world of naruto. On top of that they all seem to have some kind of advanced bloodline. :D
graff
02-09-2005, 06:54 PM
im confused but anxious hmmm the possibilities of this story arc are endless
RandomGuy
02-09-2005, 08:32 PM
Sweet Chapter!
SPOILERS, highlight if you feel like reading.
I cant believe Gaara's Kazekage. Its also pretty awesome that Temari, Kankurou, and Neji are Jounin's, but at the same time its kinda strange that all those guys are chuunin already. Funny how "far behind" Naruto is, but Im sure hes still stronger than most of them. Im not surprised about Neji being Jounin, but its weird how Kankurou is too...
I still want to see the translation though...Im so much slower reading the raw versions.
Kaiwub
02-09-2005, 10:03 PM
WHAT A GREAT CHAPTER TO COME OUT ON MY BIRTHDAY!!
hamstar
02-09-2005, 11:45 PM
this chapter is too awesome.
spoiler
yeah even though gaara is kazekage and kankuro,negi and temari are jounins I'm sure naruto will still own them all with his new stuff.
Gaara is called the "one tail" and he has some crazy jutsu called "jinchuriki" which i cant wait to see. He's going to battle one of the two ninja's from akatsuki. cant wait
shadowmagus
02-09-2005, 11:50 PM
im not really supposed to be on teh computer but i have to get my chapter and say this really quick. AHHHHHHH OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG TEMARI IS SOOO CUUUUUTTTEEE HOT HOT HOT HOT HOT HOT HTO HOT HOT HOT!
Amatsu Mikaboshi
02-10-2005, 12:09 AM
haha naruto is the only genin.
Ezequiel
02-10-2005, 01:22 AM
I think it´s a good thing that Naruto´s still a gennin I mean he´s been training for almost 3 years with a sannin, how hard do u think the chuunin exam´s gonna be for him? :lol: And maybe non of the others got the chuunin title in their second shoot :P
Can´t believe Gaara´s the kazekage either, that´s awesome!! He really kicks butt!! AAHHHHH, I can´t wait to see him fighting :twisted:
Thank God they did, i love the Akatsuki!!! :twisted: :twisted: They are a coalition of nine of the most badass ninjas in the entire world of naruto. On top of that they all seem to have some kind of advanced bloodline. :D
That would be awesome though, watching some of them fighting :twisted: This manga´s getting so... it´s freakin´ me out!! :P
BlueSpider
02-10-2005, 02:57 AM
some crazy jutsu called "jinchuriki"
actually according to the livejournal translation jinchuriki means human sacrifice and gaara is refered to as "Shukakus jinchuriki, gaara of the desert"
anyways awesome chapter...cant wait to see what naruto if naruto takes the chunnin exam again
onikage
02-10-2005, 05:25 AM
OMG...Gaara is the freaking kazekage. OMG...Gaara is the freaking kazekage.
Everyones progressed so far in those two n' 1/2 years it just poses a few questions
what about Rock lee? What about Shino? What about chouji? I want to see them all in action SOON
feanor
02-10-2005, 06:49 AM
I think that Naruto would want to take the chuunin exam. His personality doesn't allow him to be second best. The main problem is going to be his teammates. Who will they be? It might even be konohamaru ( 3rd hokage grandson right? ) end company. or some people we haven't met yet. The exam shouldn't be a problem, he should be able to carry his team through, but my gut tells me that there might be one opponent who would challenge him.
I think, and this is a big hunch, that Sasuke will also be in the exam and that they will have to face each other at some time. Maybe in the final battle. That would be great.
7hat1kid
02-10-2005, 07:15 AM
Best chapter in the longest time. Gaara as the Kazekage is sweet but didn't come as to much of a suprise. I just want to know what new abilities he's come with in these two and a half years. Neji becoming a jounin was also not a shocker he's just plain badass. Temari and Kankarou was a little bit of a suprise though. As for the chuuning exam I have no doubt that Naruto will enter it. Sasuke will more than likely also show up in the exam when he get's word that nartuo has returned to participate in it. And did anyone else catch this but i didn't see gaara wearing the gourd. Whats up with that, did he find another way to control sand, maybe he doesn't need the courd anymore he can just control it from whereever. I'm anxious to see how Lee has improved during this time. Maybe he finally started to be able to use Jutsus' and Gen Jutsus that's what i'm hoping at least. And what about Shikimaru he never really said what is offical rank was at this time. These new akatsuki members look very promising and I can't wait to see Gaara rip into them.
It's also possible that he will be given the title of Chuunin just cause he trained with Jariya. Tsunade may just give him rank because they need him on missions.
race84as
02-10-2005, 10:12 AM
at this point being able to snatch the bells from KAKASHI, the chuunin exam is nothing. I wouldn't be surprised if they showed the start and skipped straight to when he actually gets the promotion. Hell I don't even care about the chuunin exam it would prolly make a boring filler cuz there is much more important stuff going on.
B166ER
02-10-2005, 03:18 PM
well I guess They won't take the time to make naruto pass the test cause there's a huge emergency in the sand village, I don't know how strong garaa is now, but I don't think he could compete with 2 akatsuki members, not even with one, cause I'm pretty sure that naruto's supposed to be lightly stronger than garaa, and it would mean that naruto could kick any akatsuki member's ass.
hamstar
02-10-2005, 03:53 PM
Actualy gaara being a kazekage came as a huge surprise. He's only 14!!!
and the kage name is given to the strongest ninja in the village...so gaara is the strongest ninja in the wind country...
I can't imagine how strong he is now. He was already too strong when he fought kimimaro. I'm also curious as to why he's known as the "one tail" and held in high regard by the akatsuki. Can't want to see...
Well, Shikaku is a Demon much like Kyuubi, but he has one tail. I'm willing to bet they are going to try and extract the demons from Gaara and Naruto and use them for some dastardly plan. One tail probably refers to Shikaku.
graff
02-10-2005, 04:33 PM
yeah that makes sense. i dont think that naruto is going to have to take the exam to me it would be just stupid everyone knows that hes improved shika said it just by looking at him. i dunno though i wonder if konohamaru is a chunninyet.....so many questions.
usd2020
02-10-2005, 06:19 PM
And did anyone else catch this but i didn't see gaara wearing the gourd. Whats up with that, did he find another way to control sand, maybe he doesn't need the courd anymore he can just control it from whereever.
he has always been able to control the sand that isnt in his gourd. see the kimmimaro fight,
when kimmimaro comments that gaara can only use the sand in his gourd gaara says
gaara: "You're the foolish one, it doesnt take any effort for me to create sand from the ground"
ZrAeNiAn
02-10-2005, 06:23 PM
Naruto will not have to do the first 2 tasks of the chunnin exam, he only will have to participate into the final rounds. Right after that the katsuki will bust in and it will be one hell of a fight :D
-Zr-
GM Juggernaut
02-10-2005, 06:33 PM
Right....we believe you :P
Anyway, I think its safe to say Naruto (as a manga) will have to somehow "skip" over the exam, specifically, not show too much as to hamper the story, but we do need some explanation for Naruto to advance in rank (assuming he does...of course, he will.).
well I guess They won't take the time to make naruto pass the test cause there's a huge emergency in the sand village, I don't know how strong garaa is now, but I don't think he could compete with 2 akatsuki members, not even with one, cause I'm pretty sure that naruto's supposed to be lightly stronger than garaa, and it would mean that naruto could kick any akatsuki member's ass.
Well take a look at what we saw of Gaara in the past;
Lee opening 5(or 6?) gates couldn't stop him... and at that strength I'm pretty sure Kakashi muttered his strength rivaled that of Jounin...
Survived multiple Chidoris, which are claimed to be an instant deathblow
Can summon a demon (is a demon? :P)
And I think we all remember what he did to Kimmaro ^.~
So in the two years if people are gonna insist that "OMG Naruto must be so much stronger now!" imagine how much better Gaara must be...
I don't think we'll see a chuunin exam... the only (main? -.-) character they'd have is Naruto and as has been said.. it really wouldn't be interesting to see just because of how strong Naruto's supposed to be >.>
Although I can imagine them doing it just to try and illustrate that point ¬.¬"
graff
02-10-2005, 10:00 PM
im with you on the whole exam thigy k3v. it doesnt really make sense unless there trying to introduce more characters as gennins.
but about gaara and naruto. if he was fighting at a jounnin level during the middle exams then so was naruto cause remember naruto was on par and actually beat (tied?) with him so that would make naruto at a jounnin level. i just hope tsunade says 'hey your a jounnin now so go help the sand.'
Sanitybreak
02-11-2005, 12:29 AM
er yea
naruto was stronger then Gaara, and being main character AND trained under a Sannin, he is probably much stronger then most of them and i would think gaara too.
i think naruto would enter as a single entry, not that it would matter ot him or anythin
but i'd like to see him fight some ppl tougher then konohamaru's grade kinda ppl
maybe ppl thats like, jounin could test him to skip him right to jounin or w/e :x
Chibionna
02-11-2005, 02:15 AM
Hey the translated 247 they just put up won't open on my computer. What program can I use to open it?
mikek
02-11-2005, 03:09 AM
I just renamed the file to a .rar and opened it that way.
Hope that helps.
Katsuro
02-11-2005, 05:48 AM
Well...Naruto would still have to take the Chuunin exam, because Chuunins are chosen by the council or whatever. And it's not like the council members have all been watching Naruto, so they don't know his strength. The exam may not go very in depth, but Naruto would still have to participate. If they do want the exam to go in depth, they'd have to bring a plot twist of some sort, like Sasuke returning for the exam as well...
prodigy
02-11-2005, 07:04 AM
wow, gaara is a kage. thats... wow.
dragon_50469
02-11-2005, 07:51 AM
Just read it and OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It would be pretty funny to see Naruto have to take the Chuunin exam with konohamaru though. I can't wait to see Lee, Shino, Kiba, Neji, and Sasuke again I hope they show at least Lee in the next chapter. Maybe this time Lee will come to save Gaara and open like seven gates and beat some akatsuki ass.
In all honesty, he probably will have to take the exam. However; it's also likely that he will miss this exam because of the battle in the Sand village. If anyone remembers, he is now on a team with Kakashi and Sakura and they supposedly have a mission to do. That will probably take precedence over the Chuunin exam. Only way they will have him do it is if Tsunade tells him he has to, then they will delay the mission until the test is over. The only reason the last test was spanned over a few months was because they had to have preliminary matches. They will probably cut that out this time (if he takes it) and just go straight to the last part.
hamstar
02-11-2005, 11:34 AM
yeah I seriously doubt the author will drag us through another chuunin exam... that got tiring.
I have a feeling naruto will jump into jounin status. Actually I couldnt care less if he never reaches jounin but lets face it the manga is NARUTO. In China or in some translations the title is Naruto, hokage ninja. Eventually he'll be hokage.
Trinity210
02-11-2005, 12:23 PM
As many people have already said...wow. Gaara is Kazekage!!!! It really shows how much his village's attitude towards him has changed...everyone used to fear him and call him a monster, and now they've accepted him as their leader.
I'm looking forward to seeing the fight between the new Akatsuki members and Gaara. If these two seriously believe they can take on Gaara, they must be really powerful.
er yea
naruto was stronger then Gaara, and being main character AND trained under a Sannin, he is probably much stronger then most of them and i would think gaara too.
i think naruto would enter as a single entry, not that it would matter ot him or anythin
but i'd like to see him fight some ppl tougher then konohamaru's grade kinda ppl
maybe ppl thats like, jounin could test him to skip him right to jounin or w/e :x
Sasuke Beat Naruto and Gaara beat Sasuke :p
One victory doesn't define who is stronger...
I don't think Naruto will progress past "genin" let's face it the status titles like chuunin and jounin mean nothing now considering how our "main characters" have proven to be stronger than most while mere genins.... the titles mean nothing now ¬.¬
I really have a feeling these two aren't Atasuki... they're probably people "recruited" by an Atasuki member as cannon fodder to test how strong Gaara is... because they seemed to have a contact within the Sand and supposedly Atasuki members cut off all contact with their former villages
Kokoro
02-11-2005, 06:45 PM
As many people have already said...wow. Gaara is Kazekage!!!! It really shows how much his village's attitude towards him has changed...everyone used to fear him and call him a monster, and now they've accepted him as their leader.
I'm looking forward to seeing the fight between the new Akatsuki members and Gaara. If these two seriously believe they can take on Gaara, they must be really powerful.
I agree!! For me it was like wOw! Sakura is chuunin, then Wow! Neji, Kankuro and Temari are jounins! and then WTF! Gaara is Kazekage!! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Hahahahaha, it's great! But I wanna see all of the other characters as well! :D
race84as
02-11-2005, 08:21 PM
i don't think naruto would have to be a "chuunin" before getting promoted to a "jounin". a "jounin" isn't just a strong "chuunin", a "jounin" is someone who mastered his/her way of the ninja. kakashi said once that becoming a "chuunin" was nothing cuz he did it at age six. it was better when all the characters were rookies because it showed who was the most mature and capable of leading a team. but now everyone has already matured and can lead a mission if it was neccessary. if anything i think that all of konoha's superiors are looking for which of those rookies from 3 years ago are true masters of their ninja ways.plus i think its also good in a funny,ironic way that the strongest character is still DEAD LAST but now he is no longer the unwanted, outcast.
i i put the .rar at the end of the 247 chapter but its still not showing. what program works for this file?
Lixie
02-11-2005, 11:12 PM
HAHAHAHA SHIKA AND TAMARI ARE GOING OUT NICE.
skyz69
02-12-2005, 08:16 AM
the plot jumped straight into the akatsuki arc, its likely that there are akatsuki after naruto too. dont think there will be time for naruto to participate in any exam!
the sand was probably very weakened by their attempt on konoha, could explain why kankuro is jounin too. anyway, they are siblings of the kazekage...
shika is probably jounin, i think, cos all the examiners in the exam we saw were jounins...
that everyone is chuunin now isnt really that surprising, since they got through to the last stages anyway previously.
B166ER
02-12-2005, 08:56 AM
HAHAHAHA SHIKA AND TAMARI ARE GOING OUT NICE.
are us ure ? I thought he said that they didn't... ...yet
narutoIZZAbest
02-12-2005, 09:21 AM
hehe cool chapter! GAARA IS KAZEKAGE!! GO GAARA! XD
nawar
02-12-2005, 11:43 AM
if i remember correctly, the akatsuky were after gaara and naruto from the beginning, when itachi and kisame were on the wall they commented on gaara being to far away
Anarion
02-12-2005, 03:51 PM
The most importtant and wonderous thing about Naruto's development is actually how he's able to control Kyubi's chakra from now on. Because that is the thing that makes him powerful (beside stubbornness and never giving up "strong character" ) and the main character. Also i don't think Naruto will take a chounin exam again. He wont have time. If he fulfilled the requirements, Jiraiya must have told Tsunade that. So an advice or suggestion of a sannin is strong enough to make someone jounin or chounin. These are my assumptions ofcourse.
Another thing is (i'm shocked no one mentioned it) how Sasuke has grown. He must be very very very powerful.(More than Naruto i guess) He got trained by Orochimaru.He has one of the most powerful cursed seal(as strong as Kimimaro's,we saw his level 2 right? Quite amazing.) ,and a Mangekyou sharingan. He must know many forbidden jutsus,and a very powerful Kuchiyose.(Although i don't think any summon can challange Gambunata,exept the third's.)
Gaara is Kazekage... This shows he has truly turned in the favor of light. He rules the Sand Country,which is quite a big responsibility.(That means if Naruto takes the exam again he has 2 people in the council who belive he is a hero or the strongest person or whatever..)
I'm quite sure that Gaara is the strongest shinobi in the Manga now.(Although it depends on how he controls Shukaku.Naruto and Gaara are definitely alike.)
Wow this has been a long post but i wanted to share my thoughts.(There are many more but no time no space =)
We're looking forward to the next chapter,i definitely can't wait.
No one mentionned how much Sasuke has grown, because we haven't seen him yet. Nor is there any guarantee that he's been trained by Oro :P
I'm disappointed >.> I wanted to see Gaara Vs naruto 2 .... guess it could still happen... I want to see Gaara beat the hell out of Naruto :twisted:
Anarion
02-12-2005, 04:20 PM
What if it's Gara+Naruto vs Sasuke+Kabuto. ooo too exciting. :twisted: But this is nothing but a fantasy.
Actually i have no doubt that sasuke is trained by Orochimaru cuz when he fought Naruto he said he's going to him. If anything happend when he was there i dunno anything might've happened then =)
By the way i love the new Sakura,so much mature than before so much powerful than before... And her ideas of Naruto have changed i think cuz she didn't say anything bad or she didn't punch Naruto when he came up with the "bell" plan. If it was before,it would't be like that i suppose.(She's so much similar to my type of a women now,strong yet beautiful :wink: )
Lanze
02-12-2005, 05:11 PM
I'm disappointed >.> I wanted to see Gaara Vs naruto 2 .... guess it could still happen... I want to see Gaara beat the hell out of Naruto :twisted:
I was especially pissed when I saw in the Chunnin exaime that Sasuke and Gaara where going at it in the first round. ya just knew that was gonna be like on of the final rounds, I soooo wanted to see Gaara go ahead and 0wn Naruto's a$$ :twisted:
Lanze
02-12-2005, 05:11 PM
(lag! sorry for the double post >.>)
MATCHSTICK
02-12-2005, 05:11 PM
I can't believe that no one has commented on the akatsuki member at the end of the chapter that looks remarkably like Ino! Doesn't anyboydy else think so? It seems like she is wearing the konoha head protector but I'm not 100% sure. One evidence i got for this is on page 11 where the guy nearly fell out of his body maybe Ino developed such great jutsu that she can do it from as far as possible. Perhaps she has given up on sasuke and gone for itachi, they practically look the same anyways.
Gaara is kazekage, :shock: :shock: :shock:
So happy to hear everybody is doing well. They go that Temari is an examiner so maybe during the main exams the examiners talk and Temari will convince them that no point for Naruto to go through the first 3 exams and go straight to finals.
Can't wait for the next chapter! More! More! More!
EDIT: After re-reading i found out that Shika was the examiner, which i think is better for my theory on the Temari and chunnin exam.
Allister
02-12-2005, 05:24 PM
I can't believe that no one has commented on the akatsuki member at the end of the chapter that looks remarkably like Ino! Doesn't anyboydy else think so?
Looks like a younger Tsunade more, but yeah I can see the Ino-ness in there, but Gaara being Kazakage is retarded. ; ;
graff
02-12-2005, 06:54 PM
how do you figure its retarded.
Allister
02-12-2005, 07:44 PM
how do you figure its retarded.
Well its not really that bad if you think about it but, in the anime Kazekage is Gaara's father, makes more sense he put a beast into his son instead of into himself lol.
Besides then he cas toss him around and kill people instead of doing it himself, makes more sense in the anime.
Anarion
02-13-2005, 09:48 AM
It seems like she is wearing the konoha head protector but I'm not 100% sure. One evidence i got for this is on page 11 where the guy nearly fell out of his body maybe Ino developed such great jutsu that she can do it from as far as possible. Perhaps she has given up on sasuke and gone for itachi, they practically look the same anyways.
She definitely doesn't wear Leaf's head protector. Actually it's quite obvious that it's a Sand's head protector.Zoom in and take a look at it again. We see the head protector in 2 boxes.
Anyway she really looks like İno. Maybe they have a connection.(Depending on the jutsu. She uses a jutsu similar to Ino's. Well, it's curious...) We don't know Ino's family or bacground besides Sakura. Also, I don't belive Ino could develop such a jutsu. She's not that powerful i think. Cuz that jutsu would require enormous amounts of chakra with precise control. And whot's up with that hand? Is she a monster too? (Actually i did not like that idea. Cuz it looks like it's taken from Vamqire Hunter D. Not an original idea...)
nawar
02-13-2005, 05:37 PM
well. it isnt ino, also it was her husband that killed everyone, also, gaara being kazekage, got damn that is like SO obvious!!!!!!!!!!!!!! common, the dude is uber powerfull, i cant imagine anyone being able to beat him, if he goes shukaku, he dealt with cs 2 kimimaru like he was a ragg doll.!!!! i mean,,!!!!!!!!!!!COMON, but lets be honest, there is only one think i HAVE to see in the next chapter..................
guess what that is....................................
yess thats right....you guessed it,.....narutos face......gaara became kazekage before he did........
graff
02-13-2005, 06:27 PM
you know what i just thought of...well probably not but think of all the forbidden jutsus gaara got his hands on after becoming kazekage....man i hope we see some of em.
MATCHSTICK
02-13-2005, 07:16 PM
She definitely doesn't wear Leaf's head protector. Actually it's quite obvious that it's a Sand's head protector.Zoom in and take a look at it again. We see the head protector in 2 boxes.
I still can't see it but oh well i guess my argument is broked down. Also the comment about the jutsu form the hand, i never relaised she was doing it i thought that little slug looking guy was doing it, a normal person would come to the conclusion that a deformed looking guy would have a deformed looking jutsu like that, but oh well i guess it's just my bad reading skills. But i still think that Shika will just let Naruto go straight to finals or something since he is the examiner, either that or it would be real funny seeing Shika give him a real difficult task or pick on him.
(Actually i did not like that idea. Cuz it looks like it's taken from Vamqire Hunter D. Not an original idea...)
This manga has got so much playgerism (sorry bad at spelling) that it is unbelievable, but i still think that it was stuck together in a good way. Here are some examples (my examples may be the other way around because i do not know which mangas came out first):
1) 1000 years of pain, stolen form Slam Dunk were the main character done the same thing to the coach of the opposite team during their first match.
2) Sasuke and sharingan, stolen form Kurapica from Hunter x Hunter, eyes can turn red, and they are last of their clan and they vowed revenge, only difference is Sasuke's eye is cooler.
3) Gaara of the desert, ability stolen from a guy from One Piece called Crocodile, he was able to control sand because he ate an evil fruit and was made of sand himself.
4) *Minor Point* an old man in one piece (for those of you that read refer back to Luffy vs. Buggy the Clown 1st encounter), made an emotional statement on how he would never let any pirates take his village because the village was his treasure, which is like Naruto's ninja way, or the 3rd Hokage (you'll kinda get it if you read it).
5) Rock Lee disadvantage of Taijutsu, is again like Luffy from one piece, he is a pirate that can not swim which is considered a great weekness, but still he has a goal to be the best despite that.
I'm sure there are more but I am not a manga/anime expert. Again i don't know did kishimoto stole it or was inspired from it or did other artists copy him, because as i said i am not a manga/anime expert, just my opinions.
Mitch
02-13-2005, 08:43 PM
Apperently Ino has learned something if Naruto is the only one who hasn't *officially* moved forward.
BlueSpider
02-13-2005, 10:26 PM
there is actually proof it isnt Ino besides the obvious fact that she wouldnt be that strong yet.
If youve read the chapter youll notice the "Ino" character says "yeah" at the end of sentences for no real reason. Go back to the chapter just before the kakashi gaiden (238 i think). Its the one where at the end they show a bunch of akatsuki members in sillouhettes. The same character is there because one of them speaks and also says "yeah" at the end of the sentence....this was three years ago when we see ino still in konoha
just thought id add that to this slightly ridiculous debate
gAaRaOThEdEsErT
02-14-2005, 11:43 PM
wow....well it is very amazing that Gaara is Kazekage. He deserves it. his story and his perserverance is indeed amazing. i believe that Naruto is not as strong as Gaara. although he may be the main character and has trained under one of the three sannin for the past 2+ years, it is not entirly positive how strong he is. afterall, Tsunade mentored/trained Sakura and she is only a chuunin. Although that may seem unfair to say, because JIraiya and Oorichimaru are stronger, rememeber that each of the three have their own complexities and attributes that make then interestingly strong. Naruto probably is strong, but in what aspects is he stronger than others. Its very hopeful that he is now able to manipulate Kyuubi's chakra in some way shape or form. With 2 years of experience and training, many new doors have opened and it would be amazing to see how everyone else has been doing. like everyone else, i cannot wait until the fight with Akatsuki in the Sand village. After all, it is his element and everything around him bends and twists to his every thought. it will be very interesting. especially with the girl taking to the sky, it will have to be interesting to see how gaara will deal with her and with the crawling/sliding akatsuki member as well.
In response to what everyone has been saying about the status/relation of the female akatsuki member, i believe that she has some tie to that man she has control over. i believe that they are somehow related closley (husband?) and she controls him somehow. maybe he is also another person who has been bitten by Oorichimaru and now has the cursed seal on their body and possibly, the akatsuki has found a way to control them....very hypothetical but i wanted to throw it out there.
*NOTE* to the guy that is bashing/flaming about how everything is taken from ONE PIECE, its not cool. everything in society is taken and revamped by everyone else. All tales and stories have had a base upon them that is found in older tales. so STOP BASHING a friggin amazing story!!!! :x
MATCHSTICK
02-15-2005, 07:28 AM
*NOTE* to the guy that is bashing/flaming about how everything is taken from ONE PIECE, its not cool. everything in society is taken and revamped by everyone else. All tales and stories have had a base upon them that is found in older tales. so STOP BASHING a friggin amazing story!!!!
Hahaha i guess someone is referring to me. Please read my post again and give me a quote on how i bash one piece, i never once said that either one piece or naruto was crap i was just saying that they shared the same ideas, and i also said: but i still think that it was stuck together in a good way. about naruto. As for one piece, well i didn't give an opinion about the anime/manga, but I'm sure I didn't say anything negative, please correct me if I am wrong.
hamstar
02-15-2005, 02:20 PM
I think kishimoto has talked about plagerism or copying other people work per se..
He admits that he's been influenced by dragonball, akira, jojo's bizarre adventures...etc etc
Actually there's not much plagerism going on. Try reading Rurouni Kenshin where every other evil character is ripped off of Marvel or X men.
hamstar
02-15-2005, 02:35 PM
i just read the english version of 247. Terrible translation plus they even bent the truth a couple of times...
MATCHSTICK
02-15-2005, 03:43 PM
I hate it when people bend the truth, if it was a funny joke in japanese they usually bend it to some stupid one about food if it was english voice overs.
Enlighten us with the truth please...
skyknight1818
02-15-2005, 06:12 PM
It's a little harsh for you to say he plagiarized. If you look at any story, film, or cartoon (anime or otherwise) you'll find elements that are either barrowed, inspired by, or paid homage to something that came before it. What makes it interesting and original is the way the elements are brought together. You could call it plagiarization if he took the whole of another story and claimed it as his own.
This manga has got so much playgerism (sorry bad at spelling) that it is unbelievable, but i still think that it was stuck together in a good way. Here are some examples (my examples may be the other way around because i do not know which mangas came out first):
1) 1000 years of pain, stolen form Slam Dunk were the main character done the same thing to the coach of the opposite team during their first match.
>> Probably more like a rather funny reference to Slam Dunk. Funny references are used all the time, especally in anime and Looney Toons.
2) Sasuke and sharingan, stolen form Kurapica from Hunter x Hunter, eyes can turn red, and they are last of their clan and they vowed revenge, only difference is Sasuke's eye is cooler.
>> Maybe, but i'd be willing to bet the creator of Hunter x Hunter got the idea from something else too, or at least the basis for the idea from something else.
3) Gaara of the desert, ability stolen from a guy from One Piece called Crocodile, he was able to control sand because he ate an evil fruit and was made of sand himself.
>> Similarities, yes. Enough to call it stolen, no.
4) *Minor Point* an old man in one piece (for those of you that read refer back to Luffy vs. Buggy the Clown 1st encounter), made an emotional statement on how he would never let any pirates take his village because the village was his treasure, which is like Naruto's ninja way, or the 3rd Hokage (you'll kinda get it if you read it).
>>That kind of setiment is very common. These are hardly isolated examples. Even if the wordings are different, the willingness to protect what you love is an idea that you see all the time.
5) Rock Lee disadvantage of Taijutsu, is again like Luffy from one piece, he is a pirate that can not swim which is considered a great weekness, but still he has a goal to be the best despite that.
>>Now that's stretching it a little. A great weakness in a character is hardly anything new. Even if they do well despite that.
I'm sure there are more but I am not a manga/anime expert. Again i don't know did kishimoto stole it or was inspired from it or did other artists copy him, because as i said i am not a manga/anime expert, just my opinions.
There is a BIG difference between plagiarizm and what examples you gave here. You're right, there are way more references than what you mentioned. But you know what, you'll find that in just about every anime/film/book/story out there. If it was truly plagerizm, Kishimoto would have been sued by now. Nothing is truly original, even at the most basic level. You don't need to be an manga/anime expert to know that.
MATCHSTICK
02-16-2005, 01:24 PM
Point proven not plagerizm but incrdible amount of similarities. They aren't that far off still in my opinion no matter what you say. But at the end i never said anything was crap or bad or anything negative, just stating that everybody is inspired or copies more or less from other authors.
hamstar
02-16-2005, 02:40 PM
Enlighten us with the truth please...
well even in that one chapter there were too many to list but here's an example of how the translation is broken and misleading English Naruto readers:
in the original jump comic jaraiya says that to get past that defence of the sand country would be difficult even for him. He overrates the sand defences.
In the translated version Jaraiya says it wouldnt be that difficult for him to get in the sand country. He underrates the sand defences.
Another example is how in the English translation it is quite clear that both the akatsuki members are going to attack the village.
BUT in the original Japanese version, only the blonde ninja is going to fight gaara and the other guy (sasori) is staying put. In the Japanese version sasori says, "Dont take too long" and in the English version he says "I can't wait."
I'm sorry but Inane needs to get some better translators to work for him or something. A lot of the wording has been suffering ever since naruto went lvl 2 demon fox. By that I mean some of the sentences are awkward.
MATCHSTICK
02-16-2005, 03:31 PM
But personally i feel that those kind of texts can be interperated in both the english way and the original way depending on the way you read it but i can understand what you mean though.
kwint
02-17-2005, 01:29 AM
Well since you can read japanese, maybe you should translate it.
hamstar
02-17-2005, 11:26 AM
Well since you can read japanese, maybe you should translate it.
yes, but who has teh tyme?
Maybe if I got payed but who'd be willing?
Believe it or not I'm pretty old (22) and have a pretty busy life. Im actually posting in this forum from work :oops:
Kaiwub
02-17-2005, 12:07 PM
She definitely doesn't wear Leaf's head protector. Actually it's quite obvious that it's a Sand's head protector.Zoom in and take a look at it again. We see the head protector in 2 boxes.
I still can't see it but oh well i guess my argument is broked down. Also the comment about the jutsu form the hand, i never relaised she was doing it i thought that little slug looking guy was doing it, a normal person would come to the conclusion that a deformed looking guy would have a deformed looking jutsu like that, but oh well i guess it's just my bad reading skills. But i still think that Shika will just let Naruto go straight to finals or something since he is the examiner, either that or it would be real funny seeing Shika give him a real difficult task or pick on him.
(Actually i did not like that idea. Cuz it looks like it's taken from Vamqire Hunter D. Not an original idea...)
This manga has got so much playgerism (sorry bad at spelling) that it is unbelievable, but i still think that it was stuck together in a good way. Here are some examples (my examples may be the other way around because i do not know which mangas came out first):
1) 1000 years of pain, stolen form Slam Dunk were the main character done the same thing to the coach of the opposite team during their first match.
2) Sasuke and sharingan, stolen form Kurapica from Hunter x Hunter, eyes can turn red, and they are last of their clan and they vowed revenge, only difference is Sasuke's eye is cooler.
3) Gaara of the desert, ability stolen from a guy from One Piece called Crocodile, he was able to control sand because he ate an evil fruit and was made of sand himself.
4) *Minor Point* an old man in one piece (for those of you that read refer back to Luffy vs. Buggy the Clown 1st encounter), made an emotional statement on how he would never let any pirates take his village because the village was his treasure, which is like Naruto's ninja way, or the 3rd Hokage (you'll kinda get it if you read it).
5) Rock Lee disadvantage of Taijutsu, is again like Luffy from one piece, he is a pirate that can not swim which is considered a great weekness, but still he has a goal to be the best despite that.
I'm sure there are more but I am not a manga/anime expert. Again i don't know did kishimoto stole it or was inspired from it or did other artists copy him, because as i said i am not a manga/anime expert, just my opinions.4, and 5 are usually present in Manga... Also the rock lee one is sort of stretching it. That's be like me saying because Recca from Flame of Recca has dragons in him that he is just like Naruto and that Naruto is a complete copy. Which isn't the case. It is just coincidence that they both can control sand. They use it differently anyways.
hamstar
02-17-2005, 04:59 PM
where the HELL is chapter 248?
WHERE!?
B166ER
02-17-2005, 07:05 PM
I was wondering the same thing, were already on thursday and there's still no raw to read!! poor little me's gonna die, I can't wait anymore!! I wanna see garaa fight !
wolfgang_alk
02-17-2005, 07:11 PM
i want to see the new members of akatskui and the guy with the mouth on his hand i ben waiting for so long ive been a fan of naruto for 2months and it never seemed to have changed chouji and chapter 247 in naruto fan
dragon_50469
02-17-2005, 11:30 PM
I was wondering the same thing, were already on thursday and there's still no raw to read!! poor little me's gonna die, I can't wait anymore!! I wanna see garaa fight !
I feel just like your av right now.
shadowmagus
02-17-2005, 11:40 PM
i think kishimoto is gonna completely destroy the sand village and gaara will have to chill with naruto and konoha. its a long shot but the somewhat sketchy evidenc ei have is how those ppl in akatsuki completely tore those defenses down with their spy. he could prolyl do it again. and! orochimaru also has somethign going on in there. akatsuki+sound village hostility= trouble and weapons of mass destruction
RandomGuy
02-18-2005, 01:22 AM
Shadow Magus, I think youll enjoy Chapter 248. Download the raw now! You could probably get all you need out of it on the last page anyway.
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