What style do YOU practice?

[DBZWarrior6582]

ok please continue, sorry I deleted it but it was way to long. please continue.

[gohansapprentice]

This is a good lesson in the Buddhist idea of impermanence. The board was here, full of knowledge and wisdom, but now part of it is gone forever.

Bagua/Pakua (pronounced bah-gwah) - awesome possum

well i think it's great. if it's kew i want u to tell me your teachers interpretation of chi and tell me what it is capable of. all sifu's say things a lil differently. i just want to see what urs says...im just curious :wink:
and don't worry. im not gonna bite ur head off DBZWarrior6582...i know that it needed to be deleted...it was one of the biggest threads on the entire forum..it's kew 8)

[Shi Miao Yi]

Yeah man. I love hearing individual theories on qi/chi/ki. All the way from it just being the energy of our body to keep us animated, from the matter that created the world, even to it being a physical thing capable of being throw at an opponent *cough* DBZ.

[SynFcuk]

lol kay guys.. i was the first to make this mistake too ya know lol

this thread has the best ""aura"" in the forum =]


-----NOBODY DELETE THIS THREAD EVER AGAIN----- splitting spam only

[458643]

ok then, can you please give a weakling some pointers on how to make his brain strong n stuff?
i want more power in it }: ))

[Shi Miao Yi]

Huh?

[gohansapprentice]

actually grandmaster masaki hatusmi has like a a major in physiology and studies the potential of ki alot. they also say that he can literally "throw" chi at you. and have clips and pictures of him doing so. that's one major reason i want to train in ninjutsu with him in northern japan. but the thing is, he hasn't taught it to anybody cuz he doesn't think anyone can handle it. which means one of two things
1. he can't do it, but is just talking about acting like he is some "deadly master"
or 2
. he is serious...which would be scary......

[Jiraiya_sama]

I'd just like to state my question over agin since whoever restarted this sticky messed things up.
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I'm curious to know what anyone practices. I took SHotokan karate for 2 years.

[Shi Miao Yi]

Haha

Ok.

I've done Shaolin Kung Fu since I was 8 (I am 19 now) and within it I have studied many forms including all of the animals forms (mainly tiger), Northern Praying Mantis, hung gar, some wing chun, gong li quan, li jiang quan, black claw, eagle claw, Southern Tiger, some mixed jeet kun do, and more. I have also studied tai chi throughout my time at my kwoon (temple/dojo), including chen, wu, and sun style.

[458643]

that pic in your sig, is that you?

[Shi Miao Yi]

No, that is not me. While I was at Shaolin, I am still very much tall and pale skinned :) Not Chinese in the least.

Next time I go home I will post a video or picture of me while I was in China or at my temple.

hm i was going to ask that same question, so you say you studied at shaolin... wow your lucky man that would be a dream for me, but it would also be quite difficult seeing as though i dont speak a word oc chinese

[458643]

that must be awesome, i can't even fathom the power your brain gets when training there

[gohansapprentice]

actually there is a very good shoaling temple in new york city. u wouldn't need chinese there

[IRISHNESS]

Wrll is it just me or should drunken boxing be taught..if it's even real..and studying at a shaolin temple would just be great..like..wow...your a lucky lucky man...i took tae kwon do and karate for awhile..got bored and quite at red belt..meh..w/e i guess...not liek i fight alot..claremont sucks... :cry: :twisted: :wink: :roll: :shock:

[Shi Miao Yi]

Yes, Shaolin was amazing, but it's not for everyone. I was there for two months and I have to say they were the most difficult months of my life, both physically and spiritually. Besides, Shaolin is not the way it used to be. I was the only foreigner there, as most foreigners don't really know the real Shaolin so they are sent to the Wushu Guan which has a few monks and a bunch of wuseng.

http://www.usashaolintemple.com

Shi Yan Ming is not a real monk anymore. He spent a good amount of his life there, but do remember, this is not what you might think it is. If you want a real Shaolin lifestyle go to Austria and train under Shi Heng Xong (I think that's his name). More information can be found at http://www.shaolintempel.at

There is now also a live in program there, the rooms cost 250 euro per month and the training price for training is 70 euro per month.

If you have any questions feel free to ask me on AIM: I Attack Bears, MSN: iattackbears@hotmail.com

Amitabha (buddha bless you, in Mandarin, commonly used in Shaolin schools of buddhist descent)

[gohansapprentice]

Wrll is it just me or should drunken boxing be taught..if it's even real..and studying at a shaolin temple would just be great..like..wow...your a lucky lucky man...i took tae kwon do and karate for awhile..got bored and quite at red belt..meh..w/e i guess...not liek i fight alot..claremont sucks... :cry: :twisted: :wink: :roll: :shock:
drunken boxing aka monkey fist style. i dunno if it really works or not. never seen it work anywhere cept in old jackie chan movies :roll: so i can't really say...i wouldn't do tkd anyway...feel for ya on that one :?

oh and what's the difference b/w the austrian one and the usa one?..i have heard both are excellent and i would be lucky to train at either. im just intersted on to why u say that. peace

[Shi Miao Yi]

Pretty much because it's far less expensive and you can actually stay within the temple.

Drunk boxing is it's own art, but there is drunken monkey and angry monkey, which may have confused you. Drunken boxing is insanely effective. It's similar to tai chi in that you remain very soft and your movements flow around your opponents. The training for drunken boxing hardly ever has anything to do with actually alcohol though. You will train with jugs and cups though to build arm and finger strength.

[gohansapprentice]

hmm...i was told that drunken fist and monkey fist where the same, just 2 different names...hmm..ok..i stand corrected...so that's why u say that the austrian one is better...well i think it will be far less expensive for me to go to nyc then to travel to a different country don't ya think :lol:

[Shi Miao Yi]

Well, the thing is, the living cost in New York is insanely high, like 1500 per month I think, so yeah, a 500 dollar plane ticket wouldn't be that bad, considering you should probably stay for two years to get the good feel of kung fu.

[gohansapprentice]

hmm...i guess ur right. which one are ou at? i don't know if u said or not :oops:

[Shi Miao Yi]

Well, I HAVE studied at the real Shaolin in Hunan and then I studied at the USA Shaolin when Wolf was in NYC, as USA Shaolin and Austria Shaolin are of the same, Shi Yan Ming, 34th generation Shaolin monk.

Right now I am taking private lessons since I am at University. I am also teaching kung fu and tai chi here as well, for free :) We have a martial arts club here, which is pretty much Tae Kwon Do and me, and they let me use the old wrestling room, so I teach in there. It's fun.

Rock. :)

[gohansapprentice]

that's kew. what style kung fu? im going to go out on a limb and say shoalin right? :lol:

[Gmex]

karate, kick boxing, drunken man, kung fu and does soccer, basket ball and lacrosse count

[gohansapprentice]

karate, kick boxing, drunken man, kung fu and does soccer, basket ball and lacrosse count
considering that the last three arent' ma's, no....they don't
what's up with the black goku and vegeta?
lol
wow
they got tanned lol
i wish i tanned like that :cry:

[Shi Miao Yi]

Haha, yeah dude, those are sports, not really martial arts. Kickboxing has turned into more of a sport these days, but it still retains the fighting spirit.

[gohansapprentice]

if u want a really good kickboxing, go for muay thai or san shao. it'smuch more of a complete art as compared to muay thai, but both are really good. i believe they teach san shao to china's military.

[Shi Miao Yi]

Muay Thai is super awesome, those guys are absolutely insane. The training they go through is brutal. If you take that you will be on bad mutha.

[gohansapprentice]

most are really good. they kick trees with their shins, headbutt them, and elbow them constantly for training...bruce lee wasn't all that impressed with them though...wonder why,......probly cause they are always on their toes, never have balance...i dunno...

[Shi Miao Yi]

Yeah, the balance they have is actually pretty good, the problem is that a good leg sweep SHOULD take them down, but a more advanced muay thai kickboxer would either be strong enough to resist or fast enough to jump.

Some of their other types of training is cutting the nerve behind the thigh so that they don't get dead legged. If they don't have enough money for that surgery they will beat one another with sticks until the nerve is dead. Pretty insane stuff dudes.

[WildWolfay]

Pi Gua...

Not one of the most popular.... but it works for me...

I trained with a personal trainer for a long time, it's amazingly tough...

I love the strength it brings me but it's not made to be used quickly.... You have to be incredibly resistant to pain to be able to take the coming blows... Definately an art made for the larger fighters, but I use it as a good workout since you are forced to use all the weight in your body behind a single blow. At 5'8, 165 lb's, I learned to adapt... And I didn't have to travel, I got lucky.

[gohansapprentice]

pi gua can be an art for anybody, of any size. it's just that it kinda works in harmony with larger people. whatever gives u the advantage in a fight, go with that!

[jdsuave2003]

bleh im tired of just hearing about this, I need a good sparring partner...anyone here live in central florida? I need someone to fight against who isnt so concerned with learning a specific technique as he is to jsut learning how to fight using what hes got to form his own style....ALL LEVELS WELCOME!!! (including extra extra noobies :) )

[WildWolfay]

What style do you practice???

I don;t feel like reading thru the thread again :o

[Lixie]

wooo I get to learn baqua.

[WildWolfay]

Are you serious Lixie??

From where?

[Lixie]

from the school I've practiced at. They teach all kinds of wu-shu. I had a website up here... but the thread was cut. My brother's started on swords. I did sword for a while, but I'll probably go for the whip. I'm not great tho :P

[Solyr]

Im thinking of trying to take Machado Jiu-Jitsu. Not sure though if its worth the pocket book being destroyed

[Shi Miao Yi]

You can't put a price on the wisdom one attains, so it's worth it.

I am learning baqua as well. I am learning from a private instructor out here in Ohio.

Through fighting and not learning a previous style you are missing out on a lot of wisdom that is handed down through out the ancient systems of martial arts. A good martial artist does not train to fight, but not to fight. Rock.

[WildWolfay]

Thanks Lixie..

Now I get to spend the day picturing you with a sword in one hand, and a whip in the other...

Anyways: That's cool, what's your school called? and how old is your bro?

[gohansapprentice]

Im thinking of trying to take Machado Jiu-Jitsu. Not sure though if its worth the pocket book being destroyed
well that's exactly what you would be doing...as effective as the art is...it's a little too expenseive for my tastes...i was actually going to do it in dallas with carlos himself...but 160 bucks for 2 nights a weeks?..i don't think so....

[jdsuave2003]

hahahhahahah.....i just figured out what styles im going to blend to get the perfect martial arts form.....

Aikido and Drunken Fist.....

im gonna be a dodgin, waverin fool.... :lol:

[l33t_5k1llz]

im not sure about the deleted thread, but i cant believe that judo wasnt mentioned. well, i study judo, but had to stop because of a freakin leg injury.... im thinking of going into kendo because my friend said the dojo has kendo on different days.

[Blue_Raine]

wado-ryu karate...but i wish i could take some brazilian jiu-jitsu. very effective in fights. tried wing chun, but i had to listen to everything...so i scrapped that.

[gohansapprentice]

u scrapped wing chun, cuz u had to listen to people? that's not a good idea. especially if u live in la or australia

[Blue_Raine]

u scrapped wing chun, cuz u had to listen to people? that's not a good idea. especially if u live in la or australia

no i was being sarcastic :) but yea, i scrapped wing chun cause i found wado and bjj to be more effective, 'specially when they're combined.

[gohansapprentice]

well wing chun is definetly a good stand up art. that would definetly complement ur bjj. never have done wado though. i've heard good and bad. but that is that with no matter what art u do.

[Blue_Raine]

wado is shotokan and japanese jj combined...the only bad thing i can think of is not enough focus on locks. hey, not much matters when the founder is a 10th dan... =/

[gohansapprentice]

the founder is a 10th dan, it's got jj and it doesn't focus on locks? :? that doesn't make sense....u might wanna check his credintials. if he is teaching jj with the shotokan, and there are no locks, then u arent' doing jj. traditional japanese jiujitsu is all about standup grappling. which means wrist,finger, arm, locks and major joint manipulation. ask him why there are no locks in jj cuz that's not a good thing. personaly, i dont' like shotokan cuz the stances are too low for me. if they work for u then great, but they aren't comfortable for me so they wouldn't work for me in a real life conflict. but if it works for u then keep doing it. just ask ur sensei why though. cuz that's really really strange

[Shi Miao Yi]

A solid foundation makes for a solid house. In Kung fu as well as shotokan we have very low stances. In truth, it is impossible to go any lower in the positions to we go. We have stretched our legs ankles and knees to such an extent that they have far far far more mobility. Now, we also keep our stances low to make extraordinary leg muscle. This can be done by lifting weights, but that is counter-productive since building up muscle destroys flexibility. By holding a solid horse stance with your thighs parallel to the ground and keeping it down for long amounts of time you build incredible muscle bulk, stamina, and flexibility. Most people are not able to go all the way into horse their first time, it is too hard. People who can hold stances for hours upon hours have some the most devistating kicks I've ever had the pleasure of getting hit by.

[Blue_Raine]

the founder is a 10th dan, it's got jj and it doesn't focus on locks? :? that doesn't make sense....u might wanna check his credintials. if he is teaching jj with the shotokan, and there are no locks, then u arent' doing jj. traditional japanese jiujitsu is all about standup grappling. which means wrist,finger, arm, locks and major joint manipulation. ask him why there are no locks in jj cuz that's not a good thing. personaly, i dont' like shotokan cuz the stances are too low for me. if they work for u then great, but they aren't comfortable for me so they wouldn't work for me in a real life conflict. but if it works for u then keep doing it. just ask ur sensei why though. cuz that's really really strange

um....kinda hard to take your advice, 'cause, well ohtsuka's (founder) dead...and my bad, i worded my post wrong, i meant the founder took jj, and sort of incorporated it's philososphy, that is manipulation of your opponent's balance, to your advantage. he "improved" on certain techniques from shotokan, although i do wish he had created some ground fighting techniques.

[gohansapprentice]

oh ok i see what u mean, cuz at first i was like wtf? lol
and shi i know that the deep horse stances have purpose in the training, but hopefully u will never actually enter a horse stance in real life. if u do then u make an easy target. but i do agree 100% about the leg strength and flexibility though :wink:

[Blue_Raine]

but hopefully u will never actually enter a horse stance in real life. if u do then u make an easy target. but i do agree 100% about the leg strength and flexibility though :wink:

you raise a good point, and i see what you're getting at, but a shorter, if not stronger target is harder to hit. i guess the horse stance was meant as a basis, to build the muscles necessary, so when the need should arise, we crouch down...although that's like screaming to be kicked in the jewels lol :?

[gohansapprentice]

but hopefully u will never actually enter a horse stance in real life. if u do then u make an easy target. but i do agree 100% about the leg strength and flexibility though :wink:

you raise a good point, and i see what you're getting at, but a shorter, if not stronger target is harder to hit. i guess the horse stance was meant as a basis, to build the muscles necessary, so when the need should arise, we crouch down...although that's like screaming to be kicked in the jewels lol :?
ur right, that's what it was intended for. usually, for practical reasons of course, u would use a stance that allows greater mobility for your footwork.
ya...dont' wanna be hit there :lol:

[Shi Miao Yi]

Not necessarily so that you would be kicked there. See, when you are as low as possible in a firm horse stance your center of gravity is also much much lower and you are very difficult to push over. Some forms of kung fu literally have you drop down when someone pushes you so that their force only pushes them. Also, when in such a low stance, if one was in a fight that is, it is easy to deflect a kick to the jewels with you arms or hands, plus the amount of power generated if you were to jump would be increased.

Stances of many arts hold many secrets. I heard once that some of the REALLY awkward praying mantis stances we have were made so that chi would flow more readily when needed in a battle. Eh ;)

[WildWolfay]

Every stance holds a secret..

Beautifully said...

With every fighting style, no matter what it is, you need the proper stance to execute the proper ninjutsus. And most stances are designed to have very small loop-holes.... and their so old they are guarenteed to be battle tested for approval :lol:

[Blue_Raine]

but it'd still hurt like hell...best not to take any chances, shi miao...worth more than any jewel i can think of.

[gohansapprentice]

Not necessarily so that you would be kicked there. See, when you are as low as possible in a firm horse stance your center of gravity is also much much lower and you are very difficult to push over. Some forms of kung fu literally have you drop down when someone pushes you so that their force only pushes them. Also, when in such a low stance, if one was in a fight that is, it is easy to deflect a kick to the jewels with you arms or hands, plus the amount of power generated if you were to jump would be increased.

Stances of many arts hold many secrets. I heard once that some of the REALLY awkward praying mantis stances we have were made so that chi would flow more readily when needed in a battle. Eh ;)

yes u are right, but (yes im going to use bruce lee analogy again :roll: )
i believe it was at a hong kong talk show, where a kung fu master was making fun of bruce lee, while bruce wa there. the host asked the "master" to demonstrate what he had meant. he got into his most "powerful" stance and told bruce to come over and try to push him over. bruce get's up, punches him in the nose, knocking him flat off his butt.

i think the story speaks for itself.
we don't train to get pushed. we train to punch, and how to defend against one.
not to take a push :wink:

[Shi Miao Yi]

Again, this person was waiting for a push and I believe it was a sumo wrestler as well. He was caught unexpected. Quite truthfully, I am not crazy about Bruce Lee. He was kind of a dick and a big show boater. BIG show off. Bruce's philosophies were very western in my opinion and all the Chinese I've ever spoken with consider him American more so than Chinese.

The thing is though, we train not to take a punch, but to fight. Fighting encompasses every movement of the body and trust me, in horse stance, nice and low, a solid punch to the face, if trained adequately will not make you fall. In a class i did when I was about 11 we did drills where we would drop to horse and block then kick and the other person would mirror with a horse stance and block. Horse is so stable and so natural once really forced on to the person that it becomes a fall back. When I was first learning iron palm I stood in horse stance for the duration of my exercise. In tai chi we also see the use of stances and in some forms of tai chi they will drop low like kung fu because of all the balast you are able to create with a low center of gravity. The first thign I ever learned about tai chi, or first move rather, was to be supple and when someone pushes me to let them push me and i step back and just rotate myself so that his momentum would continue through and push him along.

Haha, and Kakashi, have you ever heard of iron penis training? It sucks, but trust me, you will have balls of sheer iron.

[gohansapprentice]

Again, this person was waiting for a push and I believe it was a sumo wrestler as well. He was caught unexpected. Quite truthfully, I am not crazy about Bruce Lee. He was kind of a dick and a big show boater. BIG show off. Bruce's philosophies were very western in my opinion and all the Chinese I've ever spoken with consider him American more so than Chinese.

The thing is though, we train not to take a punch, but to fight. Fighting encompasses every movement of the body and trust me, in horse stance, nice and low, a solid punch to the face, if trained adequately will not make you fall. In a class i did when I was about 11 we did drills where we would drop to horse and block then kick and the other person would mirror with a horse stance and block. Horse is so stable and so natural once really forced on to the person that it becomes a fall back. When I was first learning iron palm I stood in horse stance for the duration of my exercise. In tai chi we also see the use of stances and in some forms of tai chi they will drop low like kung fu because of all the balast you are able to create with a low center of gravity. The first thign I ever learned about tai chi, or first move rather, was to be supple and when someone pushes me to let them push me and i step back and just rotate myself so that his momentum would continue through and push him along.

Haha, and Kakashi, have you ever heard of iron penis training? It sucks, but trust me, you will have balls of sheer iron.
im paraphrasing. when i say we learn to punch, i mean we learn to use our natural weapons in the most effective way possible(i.e. fighting)
and ya i know there are alot of chinese who didn't like bruce lee, but from the people i have spoken to, they all basically end up saying things like " i didn't fight him cuz i didn't have the time," or i didn't like him cuz he talked about traditional ma" or other things that dont really have any relavence at all. bruce's philosophy was far from western in my oppinon. especially from what i have learned about him. and his main thing was "being chinese". that was intention to "introduce" the chinese into the modern world so everyone can recognize him.

[WildWolfay]

Iron penis training??

Care to share?? This could be useful in everyday High-school dating...

Or more-so, dating gone wrong.

[458643]

why not use protection....

[Shi Miao Yi]

Well, I've seen one form and heard of another. Both painful. In one you suspend weights on your penis and eventually increase the weights so that your penis is insanely strong, as they also lift the weights. Masters have been known to suspend 180 pounds, but I've heard that some Taoist priests could lay down on their stomachs and push their bodies off the ground with their penis. Kind of funny, haha.

I've seen this form done and seen 75 pounds suspended on the penis. It was pretty flippin' insane.

The other form has more to do with your testicles as that is where all the pain is generated. I can't remember who told me or if I read this somewhere, but the only two points in the body that cannot be trained to take pain or strengthen in any manner are your eyes and testes. Supposedly though, by hitting your scrotum with sticks over and over the skin will become thick and with the proper qigong training you will suffer no side effects. I've seen people demonstrate breaking things over the jewels but they are in a hand stand at the time so the jewels are sagging a bit.

[Blue_Raine]

Well, I've seen one form and heard of another. Both painful. In one you suspend weights on your penis and eventually increase the weights so that your penis is insanely strong, as they also lift the weights. Masters have been known to suspend 180 pounds, but I've heard that some Taoist priests could lay down on their stomachs and push their bodies off the ground with their penis. Kind of funny, haha.

I've seen this form done and seen 75 pounds suspended on the penis. It was pretty flippin' insane.

The other form has more to do with your testicles as that is where all the pain is generated. I can't remember who told me or if I read this somewhere, but the only two points in the body that cannot be trained to take pain or strengthen in any manner are your eyes and testes. Supposedly though, by hitting your scrotum with sticks over and over the skin will become thick and with the proper qigong training you will suffer no side effects. I've seen people demonstrate breaking things over the jewels but they are in a hand stand at the time so the jewels are sagging a bit.

hubba...wubba...WHA????!!!! um..., are these people familiar with the concept of taking care of yourself. holy crap, sticks whacking the boys...yikes!

[458643]

I've seen this form done and seen 75 pounds suspended on the penis. It was pretty flippin' insane.


errr....can they still like....make kids n stuff?

[Shi Miao Yi]

Yup yup. With the right qigong training you are able to sustain pain and revitalize internal organs. Of course, most of the guys that can suspend insane amounts are monks anyways, so they don't have children anyways :)

[458643]

can u like....teach me stuff?

[Zone]

Ummm... I really don't do any Styles... Only some Free-style! :lol: But I really would like to do Kendo... (You know... The sword-fighting thingie something with a stick :D )

[gohansapprentice]

kendo is more of a sport
if u want real training in authentic japanese swordsmanship then u want
iaido, kenjutsu,battojutsu, or iaijutsu
kendo is good, but not very.....authentic, and it's insanley expensive!

[Zone]

kendo is more of a sport
if u want real training in authentic japanese swordsmanship then u want
iaido, kenjutsu,battojutsu, or iaijutsu
kendo is good, but not very.....authentic, and it's insanley expensive!
Thanks for the advice! :)

[Blue_Raine]

what about ninjutsu? i heard it actually teaches killing techniques, but i'm a bit skeptical. anyone clear this up?

[gohansapprentice]

whatever u do don't go into ninjutsu....
it's not as effective as i once thought it was, especially the training with masaki hatsumi...here see this is what i mean
dammit, i can't find it, but it's a former bujinkan really nailing the ninjutsu training in japan. it's pretty bad considering how popular ninjutsu is becoming. when i find that artical i will be sure to post it

edited

here is the link to what i was talking about earlier
http://www.shinobudojo.com/news/newsletter.pdf

[Shi Miao Yi]

458643, absolutely. I might actually be teaching at a school in Michigan this summer. Haha, this is a bit funny though. The school is a Jedi school. hahaha. Even I laugh, but the thing is what the school is meant to do is bring together western philosophies and eastern philosophies then mix in the martial arts and make a better person because of it. I at least explain it that way. I would be teaching tai chi and qigong as well as Buddhism and Taoism. I still have to get more information on this though. After college I am going back to China to continue my studies then I am going to come back and be an assistant instructor for larger school. Hopefully someday I will be able to start my own miniature Shaolin. We'll see though.

I do not like ninjutsu. Now, everyone hates when I say this, but it is not it's own art, it is merely an art created for name-sake. Ninjas were nothing more than assassins and soldiers/samurai who ended up working for money rather than honor. When an samurai is sent to assassinate they go in guns ablaze. When a ninja was sent they would crawl through the woods and sneak through and assassinate the person stealthily. The art and all the mysticism around it comes from other arts in Japan and China. A lot of ninjutsu is insanely similar to what I've seen of hung gar (which is a form of kung fu).

Kendo is a sport, right on dude, and the best art woud be kenjutsu in my opinion.

[WildWolfay]

Ninjutsu = Bad...

Avoid at all costs... Extremely USELESS.

[458643]

hum small prob, i'm in lil ol europe, the only means i have for types of education is stupid teachers and teh internet
the only stuff i know is done here is lion dance and fitness T_T

[Shi Miao Yi]

Where in Europe? I know of quite a few good Shaolin schools, some of which aren't advertised well.

I do plan on setting up a site on the internet with pictures and explicit instructios eventually on how to do many many forms. Some don't like doing this, but I see it as one more means of allowing kung fu to spread into the world. :)

[458643]

belgium, antwerp
don't see any shaolin walkin around here tho, i know ma city well, it's definatly not in teh centre

[Shi Miao Yi]

http://www.hunggarasse.com/
http://www.wingchun.org/txt/schools/misc/belgium.html

http://www.wingchun.org/txt/schools/misc/belgium.html


The first one is very very similar to what I have learned and the second link is for wing chun, which is a more simplified more practical version of kung fu.

And I am fairly certain that there is a new Shaolin school somewhere in Belgium founded by a monk from Shaolin, Shi Xing Hong.

[458643]

ahaa...i see, thx for the stuff i'll look into it

[gohansapprentice]

just don't do ving tsun
go for wing chun and nothing else if u want the best
at least that's what i have experience...i never did care for ving tsun

[458643]

just don't do ving tsun
go for wing chun and nothing else if u want the best
at least that's what i have experience...i never did care for ving tsun

Wing Chun, Wing Tsun, Wing Tchun, Ving Chun of Ving Tsun.
Allemaal verschillende spellingen voor één en dezelfde gevechtskunst afkomstig uit het zuidoosten van China.

here they say wing chun and ving tsun are the same, just diff spelling

[gohansapprentice]

nope, it's different lineages
and unfortunately, from what i have experienced and read, and talked and heard about, the ving tsun family is just one big scam to teach watered down wing chun
i wouldn't go for it

[Shi Miao Yi]

Hmm. . .ving tsun sounds like a transliteration of wing chun into Dutch or something, I don't know.

If I were you I would at least try it out, most schools offer a trial week or a trial session, something of the sort. I am not much a fan of wing chun anyways, but if it's all you have access to then go for it. There is still much wisdom to be learned.

[Madoshi]

I do Ninpou Bujutsu, I'm green belt now.
It's a ninjutsu art.

[Blue_Raine]

I do Ninpou Bujutsu, I'm green belt now.
It's a ninjutsu art.

what do you think of ninjutsu? sorry, it's just that the post seems bland.

[Named]

I have my own fighting style, centred around knives.

:( They all start some where....

[Madoshi]

what do you think of ninjutsu? sorry, it's just that the post seems bland.

Well, I think Ninjutsu is good for your body and your inner self. By meditation you can really relax and calm yourself down. The way we train is good for your body. The movements, your muscles, your condition, your suppleness etc. You can also protect your own. The style I practice is called Ninpo Goshinjutsu. After I graduate for the first circle of knowledge, I can take part of the lessons for Ninpo Bujutsu.
I don't think Ninjutsu is bad, it's a really effective way to defend yourself and if it has to be done, finish your opponent...

[Blue_Raine]

what do you think of ninjutsu? sorry, it's just that the post seems bland.

Well, I think Ninjutsu is good for your body and your inner self. By meditation you can really relax and calm yourself down. The way we train is good for your body. The movements, your muscles, your condition, your suppleness etc. You can also protect your own. The style I practice is called Ninpo Goshinjutsu. After I graduate for the first circle of knowledge, I can take part of the lessons for Ninpo Bujutsu.
I don't think Ninjutsu is bad, it's a really effective way to defend yourself and if it has to be done, finish your opponent...

do you learn ground fighting, or is it all standing? i've been ACHING to find a japanese school that teaches ground fighting.

[Madoshi]

I do both of them.

The Ninpo Taijutsu is devided in this parts:

Taihenjutsu=bodymovement
Ukemi, nagare, kaiten=Break your fall, rolling, bodydrops
Tobi=Jumping, dive-jump-roll
Dakentaijutsu=kick, punch, smash
Koppojutsu=Bonebreaking
Koshijutsu=attacks on the muscles
Kyusho=pullpoints ( ? ) techniques
Jutaijutsu=wrestling-like techniques
Nage=throwing
Gyakuwaza=greppling. The controlling of your opponent
Shimewaza=throttle
Hajutsu=escaping

[gohansapprentice]

i'd watch out with ninjutsu
if u read my article i posted a few pages back (maybe the last page of page 4 not sure)...well....u should read it lol

[Madoshi]

I read the whole article. But I think it says more of the Bujinkan than it does about all Ninjutsu.
My school where I'm taught in Ninjutsu, The Iga Warrior Ninpo Bujutsu Ryu, is just 35 years old. It is developed by our Kancho G.W. Lekanne dit Deprez. Our style is a application of the styles, techniques, theories, philosophies etc. from where the Kancho has trained. He trained with: Hatsumi, Ischizuka, Kan, Kobayashi, Oguri, Manaka, Muramatsu, Myoji, , Nagato, Nawa, Noguchi, Sato, Seno, Shiraishi, Someya and some more sensei's. He is master in Ryu fu Ryu and Bujinkan and he posesses the 9th Dan in: Togakure Ryu, Kukishinden Ryu, Gikan Ryu, Kumogakure Ryu, Takagi Yoshin Ryu, Gyokko Ryu, Koto Ryu, Shinden Fudo Ryu and Gyokushin Ryu.
We are taught in the authentic way, but also modern variation from this. We think it's very important that if you want and have to defend yourself now, you have to change the techniques to the situations we live in today. That's also why our style is an effective on.

maybe the article is right about the Bujinkan and are they all egoistic people why only live for fame and money, but our Martial art is based on many styles and philosophies, so I think you can't say every Ninjutsu is useless....

[gohansapprentice]

oh don't get me wrong, i don't htink all ninjutsu is useless. i htink bujinkan ninjutsu is useless
i like what u have going on there is a guy here in the states who is doing something similar
he's very good here's his site if u want to check it out. he's a very intelligent ma'ist
http://www.totalwarrior.com/Rick_Tew_s_Ninjitsu/Total_Warrior_Magazine/total_warrior_magazine.html
he writes all his articles there
and this is the homepage
www.totalwarrior.com

[Madoshi]

Well. looks nice :)

our site is: www.theigawarrior.nl

http://www.theigawarrior.nl/foto's_demo_sittard.htm these are pictures taken from a martial arts day in a city in Holland.

So RTMS is formed by Rick Tew? It's similar to our system then.

[IRISHNESS]

http://www.rogersmart.com.au/kwoon.htm?/tai_sing.htm
i guess they do teach monkey fist...seems interesting..they have a couple other styles there that seem lie kthey'd only be in jackie chan movies but meh :roll:

[gohansapprentice]

Well. looks nice :)

our site is: www.theigawarrior.nl

http://www.theigawarrior.nl/foto's_demo_sittard.htm these are pictures taken from a martial arts day in a city in Holland.

So RTMS is formed by Rick Tew? It's similar to our system then.

unfortunately, i can't read a darn thing on that site :lol:

[Madoshi]

Uhmmmmmm well :oops: That's true :P

Aren't there any translation sites? Altavista bablefish or something...

[gohansapprentice]

i don't think babel fish translates websites, but if u could fine somethign, i will take another look at that site. :wink:

[458643]

babelfish.altavista.com translates webpages, it uses software from www.systransoft.com wich can also translate webpages

[darkabyss]

man u guys are all out there doin martial arts and im lump of crp sitting here. hey irish ness if u mean u saw drunken master then i got ta say i liked that movie. i have seen the old chinese jetlie movies when he was like 15-20 years old and they show different drunken styles. it looks kinda fake but it might be. the ones i saw in there was drunken stick drunken sword. one more thing not saying u guys are stupid but i think that people saying kung fu meaning fighting style are wrong. kung fu in chinese means like martial arts or my way of fighting. like say i said tai ngaw kung fu. i just said watch my fighting/martial arts. hey i could be wrong.

[mizugakuremaru]

I have had serious training in Jeet Kune Do, and some in kendo, not very much though :(

[Shi Miao Yi]

kung fu means something along the lines of 'hard work' or 'perfection gained through work'.

It can also be spelled gung or gong. Like qi/chi gong.

Wushu is the real term for what we call kung fu. Kung fu is what we do everyday, working hard, to achieve good wushu.

[gohansapprentice]

like what u did with the siggy
all electric and what not lol

yup, he's right about kung fu though
actually there are over 15o styles of chinese martial art, but here in the west, kung fu has become the generic term for chinese martial arts
and wushu literally means martial art
not confusing once u think about it :wink:

[Madoshi]

Here is an article which has been written by Hatsumi Maasaki about my Kancho. He has trained several years with Hatsumi.

http://www.theigawarrior.nl/images/Artikel_Tetsuzan.jpg

It's an english article.

[gohansapprentice]

lil hard to read...click on the link and see what i mean
and shi..i found the pic u use for ur siggy in a shoalin kung fu magazine lol
i was all "hey! i know that guy!"
lol

[huyem]

I can do FANs!!!!! lol those are cool, they make LOUD thunder like sounds. :twisted:

[Madoshi]

lil hard to read...click on the link and see what i mean

Can't you enlarge it? Hmm, well, here's another link:

http://www.theigawarrior.nl/enkele_uitlatingen.htm

[gohansapprentice]

ah much better
thank you
will get back to you when i read it
:wink:

[cik105]

... eep... this is probably nothing compared to you guys... but i did about 4 years of Tae kwon do and currently orange cherryblossom under the Sakura ryu Ju jitsu... well... it may not be as good as shaolin, but its alot more physically demanding then Shotokan Karate, and South Pacific Tae kwon do (note: south pacific refers to the fact i'm in Australia, and i did proper Korean Tae kwon do in a different place), which are my only other choices... neh, i'm just rabling, i should just be lucky i even have martial arts in this god-foresaken town... :D


P.S. i know it's hard to listen to me (even in text form), so sorry for all those who actually read this... :?

[Kaguya Kimimaro]

Im studying Jeet Kune Do off of Bruce Lee's books but its kinda hard to practice with out a teach to guide you so i might take up the Drunken Fist style.

[kombatan]

Anyone CANNOT practice or have a Martial Art with only a book/text material or with pictures. A credible intructor is the only one who can.
I studied Shotokan Karate Do and made it to 1st Kyu. Now, I study Kombatan which includes Modern Arnis, Mano Mano and Filipino weaponry.
check out www.kombatan.com and www.kombatan.org
Anyway, just following patterns is harmful.

[kombatan]

o,,,,by the way..........
do not concern yourself to anything not wholistic....
For example, the typical modern day groundfighting which emphasizes only in groundfighting. A fight, generally or usually starts standing up. Before one learns to grapple to the ground, one must first learn to grapple while standing up. That is one of the major flaws of grappling I see today.Grappling is a good one, only you can't use it strictly while facing many opponents, especially groundfighting.
I am currently learning and have learned striking,trapping, grappling, weapons training and even healing from Kombatan. Our concept is to "FLOW" from and to ALL aspects of fighting (of course, shooting guns at long range is an exception).

[kombatan]

Most Kung FU especialize at animal movements and for that part, I don't like them.
Better study on the human body's mechanics and improve one's skills in manipulating them. Well, that's my opinion. no offense.
We search for applications and not fancy movements whatsoever (e.g. spinning, flying and acrobatic kicks in Taekwondo)

[Kaguya Kimimaro]

Wow a triple post.....you can always edit. Anyways I said studied not actually preform, and what i meant by practice is to take into consideration his sparring tech and his views on other martial arts I know that you cant learn martial arts from reading books.

[Shi Miao Yi]

Kombatan I disagree with you on several fronts.

A truly dedicated person could learn everything from books. Shaolin temple has been destroyed and rebuilt a few times and the only way the forms were able to stay alive was to write them down. Kung fu has been practical and has worked for over 2000 years and students in the old days used to learn strictly from picture sets.

Now, kung fu being based off of animal movements? Yes, but only a select amount. Kung fu has many many many forms, no one person could ever learn them all in a life time and I would say 20% are animal, but, it has always seemed that animal forms are the most powerful.

But, you say self defense and what not, but what really matters in a fight is your speed and power. Last time I was in a street fight, which I tried to not let happen, it was one punch and over. I don't do a tornado kick or anything from the wushu classes I took for a bit, I keep it realistic. If I need to kick, I kick. If I need to punch, I punch, but I don't use the actual movements from the forms. The way I usually put it to my students is that the way I am teaching them to fight and the way we will sometimes spar, is how you fight another martial artist. Now, occasionally my class will spar with the TKD kids at my University as well, and it becomes interesting. A lot of our techniques are somewhat useless and it comes down to my students being more resilient, stronger, and faster.

The reason kung fu has animal forms is because the awkward movements of the animals such as praying mantis are inspirational. If you ever witness full contact sparring with a praying mantis practitioner you will be amazed. Every pressure point and vital qi circulation area is touched and the speed is flat outincredible. Every block is a punch and punch is a grab and grab is a punch and punch is a block is goes on and on and they completely overwhelm the opponent.

Now, I used to be anti most of the Japanese arts, but I have found a lot of respect for them and I would like to try out Okinawan Karate as my friend from Okinawa demonstrated for me. There are many people that criticize Chinese arts as too flowery or Japanese arts as too close minded, and I really don't see this, and if I do, I see the reason for it within the both of them.

Amitabha

[kombatan]

from books,,,in what you said, one can
but nowadays, one cannot.
I agree with you on the fancy things...they improve balance, power, etc... What I was trying to say is that concentrating SOLELY on them is a bad habit.
Interpretation and expression of the self is the most important part in the "enlightenment" in martial arts.
Inspiring, yeah, but you also stated something about pressure points which is part of body mechanics....
Anyway, what I said in my 1st 3 posts here were only my opinions

[K3V]

I'm re-starting tae kwon do at uni...currently i'm a lowly blue belt. But I've been told they also have another style called S.O.M.A. anybody know what this is / practice it?

[Madoshi]

I really like the animal forms :) They're beautiful and very hard. Try standing in Kiba dachi (horse stance) for 3 minutes and you're broken!

[Kaguya Kimimaro]

The drunken fist style is a funny yet very effective style. Im trying to look for a sensai.

[L2Mc]

I simulated drunken boxing moves from games and movies sincei t's so hard to find instructors, myy stuff isn't bad. Drunken boxing has good defense through quick yet minimal movements, and the unpredictability of the strikes creates (IMO) one of the greatest fighting styles.

[Kaguya Kimimaro]

Xactly i like your way of thinking L2Mc maybe we could team up as Drunken Masters LOL.

[L2Mc]

that could be cool. I also use a street fighting style all my own. Mix Zangief and Ryu ( i know that sounds wierd) and thats my style. Lot of throwing/grabbing.

[Madoshi]

How can you ever learn a martial art just bij looking a game or movie??? Those movements are just for the movie and not realistic!!! Just for the show

[Bflip]

Kung Fu > All.

[Bflip]

Haha

Ok.

I've done Shaolin Kung Fu since I was 8 (I am 19 now) and within it I have studied many forms including all of the animals forms (mainly tiger), Northern Praying Mantis, hung gar, some wing chun, gong li quan, li jiang quan, black claw, eagle claw, Southern Tiger, some mixed jeet kun do, and more. I have also studied tai chi throughout my time at my kwoon (temple/dojo), including chen, wu, and sun style.

Shaolin Kung Fu for 11 years = O_Oage.

Have you ever been in a real fight at school? Details please if you have. :D

[L2Mc]

Madoshi wrote: How can you ever learn a martial art just bij looking a game or movie??? Those movements are just for the movie and not realistic!!! Just for the show

Not all the moves are unrealistic and those that are unrealistic can be tweaked to do some damage. Most things work well in actual fights. If you can't pick up some moves from a movie, too bad.

[Anbu Kunoichi Arashi]

I'm learning shotokan from my father right now as well as various sword forms (cavalry short swords right now. I'm too small to even attempt his broadsword). He can't remember all the names for the moves but he teaches me anyways. What's scary is that I can kick his ass when he's sober, but when he's drunk, it gets a bit more difficult. :lol:

[Gmex]

karate and kickboxing

[narutoIZZAbest]

what is this all about???first its about game styles now its about real life
anyway for the games i use lots of specials.Ryu and anyone that can use Hadoken XD!!

[Gmex]

and also hand to hand kombat and sword kombat

[narutoIZZAbest]

dang and youre only 11.
I would want to do sword combat.I already know hand combat,though

[Gmex]

right now i dont use swords i only use long sticks

[Blue_Raine]

Wado-Ryu karate, cross training a bit with BJJ and stand up JJ. Have about a month experience with Lethwei (Burmese boxing), and boxing. Looking into San Shou, but can't find a decent gym in Ontario.

[Madoshi]

I also practise now Ninpo Jissen No Ho.

[cik105]

Wado-Ryu karate, cross training a bit with BJJ and stand up JJ. Have about a month experience with Lethwei (Burmese boxing), and boxing. Looking into San Shou, but can't find a decent gym in Ontario.

:shock: mmmm, im just wondering 'Kakashi4evr', are you Burmese or every been to Myanmar, if not were did u get to do Burmese boxing? coz im Burmese (but not living in Myanmar)and ever since i got into the martial arts (which has been like, forever), I've wanted too see Burmese style fighting like Thaing or Lethwei...well, you dont have to reply if u dont want, im just asking :P

[Wee Git]

hmmm used to do martial arts

jeet kune do, some kempo and aikido...but got into breaking instead

No martial arts any more...I prefer breaking, more creative, still evolving plus involves doing some really creative stuff with your body....the level is insane...

Hmmm Im not really worried...I know if I get in a difficult situation I will be able to deal with it when it comes....

out

[Named]

Fungus, Soul_Blade and myself discovered a Ninjukai Taijutsu dojo in Perth, so we'll be joining there as soon as Leavers is over >_> James insisted on going <sigh>
So, I wait, again.

Me wants to be ninja now! :lol:

[cik105]

mmm Tai jutsu, the art of the unarmed ninja i believe... well i do Sakura Ryu Ju jutsu the art of the unarmed samurai. o-o

it will be interesting if we met. coz i used to live in Perth and still have alot friends and family ther. also, i live in Queensland right now, and it would be like a duel between East meets West, ninja vs samurai.

...wow, i get chills just thinking about it. :D

[Named]

The dojo here has existed for many years :P I wish I had found it earlier... It would have been far more beneficial to take up a martial art at a younger age -_-

(it's not just unarmed, only in the first year... Then you progressively learn basically all weapons)

[Amatsu Mikaboshi]

how odd named, i'm soon to join a ju jitsu dojo "art of the unarmed samurai"

::squinting eyes from across the battlefield::

[cik105]

well... sooo.... wat about weapons... we get too do sword kata at the higher senior levels...like brown and black @_@... thats not far... im green, all i need is my blue then first level brown and im there, which will take a life time too do, and alot of hard work...

[CrimsonSlace]

I don't need a fighting style to defend myself, I'm a musician so i just improvise ^^;, but basically if my opponent could destroy me my style is "get as much matter bettween and him" no jutsu

[GM Juggernaut]

Well, as a fellow musician...I have to say...MOST musicians can't defend themselves...though I'm sure you can.

I practiced shotokan for 3 1/2 years, moved houses, and then started up at a Ryute dojo close to my new home. I enjoy the slightly older, more linear karate alot, and on occasion I go to seminars at other dojo and pick up some strategem or ideas from other schools of thought...very interesting thought.

BTW- self defense is not the only benefit of martial arts...

[Guardian of Hope]

I just started training in ninjutsu. We do everything train with Katanas, shirukens, just like real ninjas.
I'm a snakey ninja and you can't see me......

[traps]

fighting style that requires thinking....
i would probly do some werid justsu where id trap my opponet in some cool way i cant think about, hey i mean thats my name right?

[Nara~Kun]

I recently started Boxing with my two friends.They think im a pretty good natural considering they are noticeably stronger than me.which is probably my favorite part because if you take a look at me you wouldn't think im much of a fighter.I think i might consider practicing something else to keep me in shape over the summer.I'm actually really interested in kenpo at the moment.

[Hatake_Kakashi]

Ive studied Tang Soo Do for about 3 years now. My sensei also teaches aikido, so whenever we practice techniques he incorporates alot of that and anything else hes picked up over the years. I want to study ninjitsu soon, but the closest dojo is an hour away. I cant drive and my parents dont want to drive out that far. Guess Im stuck till I turn 16.
Also, doesnt it seem like alot of anime fans start martial arts.

[XenoType]

I've been learning some Kendo, using woodedn samurai swords. They key is to strike your opponent in valuable areas, if you attack them directly you'll lose, rather go for there head, ribs, feet, guarding hands, ect.

I would really like to learn ninja stuff, how to sneak into places and twist necks (lolz) but they dont really have much special schools for that, at least not in america. :evil:

[Shi Miao Yi]

I recently recieved my black sash (the only sash in my school). The only place to go from here is perfection, but I'll spend the rest of my life doing my best and never be perfect.

Good luck to everyone else doing their MA.

[xcodyx10]

what style does lee in naruto practice? i forgot, o and there is another style that you move like water, i forget that to lol... i am off today ^_^ please help lol

[thompkinsbrian]

tai jit su. in japan i started taking classes in ninpo taijitsu then work got in the way. once i get back though im gonna get back into it and also do sumo on weekends

[xcodyx10]

ya that, i want to learn more of that about that style and also i have been trying to practice jeet kun do! move like water lol

[Guardian of Hope]

lol, I like ninjutsu. Because I can be a stealthy ninja.
We can't go to tourneys, we hurt too many people.

[thompkinsbrian]

lol thats funny. there are a lot of parts of many different styles that arent allowed in competition. it isnt just the style ninjitsu that isnt allowed. even in judo which is a sport itself has stuff you cant use in competition cause it will kill someone. all martial arts hurt people. takes people with atleast some skill to do it in a tourney and not permanently injury someone

[Dark_prince014]

I have studied tai kwan do, but have learned a few moves in ninjitsu, boxing and martial arts from my uncles ( who had taken it in the past)

[Hotsuma]

tendo is extremely compedative since it realys souly on strength and agression. :twisted:

[xcodyx10]

i hate that,i like more of the style lol, just makes it more fun

[Rei]

tendo is extremely compedative since it realys souly on strength and agression. :twisted:

Tendo is pretty damn fun, you basically have to run at them and have really fast movments like a samurai with your sword and slice pull back, and hack at them again, so bad ass to whatch. :D

[monty]

I only started kung fu about 3 weeks ago

it's fun and all but it's not much about style at the minute and more about fitness
does it stay like this?

and why aren't u aloud to chain punch in competitions

can't w8 to get my grade in june
all I know at the minute is basics in kung fu so that's all the styles I know

[monty]

btw it's wing chun I do at the mo

[B166ER]

I've practiced aikido for 4 years, I like it cause there's no competition, and it can be very beautiful to see...

[Gmex]

ive done kick boxing, karate, ninjitsu, tai chi and fencing

[Kaloo]

Umm... I did some crap that revolved completely around my ability to remember complex patterns of tequniques... I mean why is it importanyt for me to memmerized Left right roundhouse side step and so-on.

[monty]

well sayin this is allready about martial arts
what grade in wing chun kung fu do you have to be before u start usin butterfly knives and the staffs, dragon staff isn't it?

[Guardian of Hope]

We've done a little apkido and tae kwan do as well as ninjutsu,I like ninjutsu the best. It inflicts more pain, at least I think so.

[Named]

Ninjutsu isn't about infliction of pain, it's about mental flexibility, adapting to your opponent and your surroundings and reacting spontaneously.
Unrestricted motion, not even by -techniques-, which they essentially 'unteach you'.

[Blue_Raine]

I take Wado Karate, Japanese Jiu-Jitsu, I dabbled in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, I spent a few months in Muay Thai learning from a friend of the family, and I'm considering taking Chinese San Da/Shou... If only I could find a gym.

I'm an UFC/Martial art aficionado, so I that's why I do this stuff rather than the things normal ppl do lol.

[tsutsu_overas]

i do tae kwon-do and i have been doing it for about six years...

[Guardian of Hope]

Named what you said is very true.
My sensai is currently trying to "release" our mind of all fear and doubt about anything that we do. Like when we dive roll off of really high buildings or over high stuff. I'm about 5' even and I can tobi (Jump) over something that is about my height.
Anyways, we do intense exercising and some meditaion.

[kingtz]

I, too, am a UFC/K1 afficionado. I also did jujitsu in college and judo in high school.

[Named]

I had my first lesson of Ninjukai Taijutsu ^^ I very much enjoyed it.

Starting from the basics, which is stances and break falls- learning how to fall backwards, forwards and on either side.
It's surprisingly effective... You can be thrust down from a throw and you feel little force of the impact.

[graff]

sounds interesting...

i used to do muy thai competively until i hurt my knee...i still train just dont compete. i was #3 in the south west but that was 4 years back.
i tried to get into jiu jitsu but dont have enough rhtyhem

[Gmex]

i do tai-chi these days

[Zanza]

I hate people who brag about being a certain rank in something mainly i hear "im a blck belt" lies all of em' even though i tried kung fu also, got bored. :roll:

[animechaosmaster]

i do martial arts

[vpdman]

i am taking Songham style and im considering to take wooshu it is a style that jet lee practices. if u have seen the preview of his new movie. The one with him being collored and wutnot. You would see him flying at a guy with an weird looking kick in an areina where he is fighting this guy to the death. that is a typical Wooshu kick.

[ChaosTheory]

I do "sit in front of computer all day long" style. Its pretty cool, and you can seriously do some serious mental damage to mulitple people online if your really good. :wink:

[superkhanh0]

lol gun solves everythin these days we dun need no black belt
remember bruce lee?

[graff]

woot woot back into competitive muy thai. right now im 5-0 but im in a ten pound lower weight class then what i should be (165-170). got a tournament that is 5 matches guranteed and 8 if you get to the finals/semifinals.

first match was a bit scary and a bit awkward since im not used to actual fighting just light combat but i did alot of isometric workouts with my knee (that isolates certain muscles that i had torn) to get back into fighting condition. im still not to where i was though i should be there in about 2 months or so which is right before the tournament.

this is a bit off topic but ill say it any way. i work in an athletics store as an excersise and baseball specialist and the guy that is my manager found out that i do muy thai. this was two weeks back and said that i couldnt knock him over. i said well i dont know if i could or not but i know that you probably dont want to find out. well he wanted me to throw a sweeping kick to his chest bare chested! i said no way at first then he said that he would put one of those tae kwon do chest protectors on. now this guy is 6'3 and about 230 big and strong. so he puts it on and i tell him to stand with his feet shoulder width apart and then i kick him strait in the little circle that was on the center of the chest and he fell bout 3 feet back. and the next day he had a huge bruise that went horizantally across his chest. i thought it was rather funny.

edit: im also dabbeling in jet kun do right now really good imo if your a seasoned martial artist then i suggest this.

[Hayabusa]

I've mastered the Hayabusa Ninjutsu Style....





....on DOA.

[Named]

lol gun solves everythin these days we dun need no black belt
remember bruce lee?

Ah, just the kind of grammar i'd expect from one espousing a partiality towards firearms, in humour or not ^_^

[graff]

HAHA Named and his big words.

won my first three matches. im back on track....not that anyone cares.

[Named]

You can't like, OWN words, man. They belong to the trees!

I'll hopefully be getting back on track myself, attending classes regularly ^_^
Although Ninjukai doesn't have competitions, they don't believe in 'sportifying' (my word, not theirs :P) martial arts. We're taught how to kill, so we can't really apply that outside of practical learning without KILLING each other.

[graff]

haha i guess so and the reason that i do muy thai is that its more like a sport. i really like the competitive aspect but my instructor makes sure to teach us life lessons. hes also a buddhist monk.

[tsunami2131]

drunkin munkey!!!!!

[tsunami2131]

.....

[SkullLeader]

Brazilian Jiu Jitsu!

[Solace]

Muay Thai.
Its effective. Not only a sport, but it can help if your ever in a street fight, almost pure street fighting.

[Scorpion]

I also practice muay thai for some years now.
I like using my elbows and knees, too bad that my knee's wasted tho... :x
I used to practice shotokan karate and western boxing, but had to drop it due to lack of time.
I'm thinking about taking up pencak silat next.

[Shi Miao Yi]

http://www.finalfu.com/

MTV2 is looking for talented martial artists for this competition show they are doing. MA v MA, all different martial arts.

My application is in! Is yours?!

[palmereap]

I do karate but i mix my styles with kung fu, drunk karate and trickery

[NarutoNineTails]

I do the style in my sig. ;)

[whoagorgeous]

^ lol

[Man of Colour]

I mostly work out at the gym around 1 hour and a half everyday. I dont do any training or anytin of the sort :) I dont have the patience for that :) Btw solace that motion pic is hilarious :)

[Lost Prophet]

I practice tae kwon do. I have been a blackbelt for two years now. I took sai for 3 years, and bo for 2 years.

[Bright Fine Silk]

Kung Fu 5 years, Taijutsu for a very short period of time (classes are inconveniently located), and currently Aikido...

[Man of Colour]

Woah everyone here is like psyched out kung fu masters...Ain't anyone here normal like me? :) Anyone badminton?

[Diddy]

does any1 know of any good animes i could download other that naruto or bleach

[Man of Colour]

does any1 know of any good animes i could download other that naruto or bleach

Try posting on the anime recomendations thread:

http://forum.narutochaos.com/viewtopic.php?t=5160&highlight=

Rather than posting in a thread that has nothing to do about it.

[Twinblade Akira]

Well, I practice Isshinryu Karate, but I would like to learn swords.

[being]

i take american chinese timpo :D

[Jak[Z]]

Kendo.

[ItAchi_KiLLeR]

i want to do ninjutsu so bad but i dont have money and i dont have any clue wheree i could learn it in houston, tx... from a good azn guy.

[TheMuffinMan]

im 13...im a black belt in tae kwon doe,and i hope to someday learn Ninjutsu and swords.kendo sounds pretty good 2

[VelvetNinja]

I took Karate for 3 years. But when Spring comes around and commuting gets easier, I plan on going to take Capoeira. Right now I trying to get fit and become flexible again 'cause I stopped Karate.

Man...I did sit-ups and my stomach is feelin' it :shock: .

[imported_Silly~Darkness41]

Sooner or later i'll probably take Capoeira it kicks your ass. It makes you hurt so much but that means your getting in shape right? I took one class, and i'm usually very athletic, but I don't know what happened it felt like I was about to die after one class. And I had a bruise on my foot and could walk for 3 days but I still want to do it.

[VelvetNinja]

You know what that means right? Someone needs to get fit, lol! But the foot thing was probably unavoidable!

Kendo sounds cool. I was thinking about taking Tae Kwon Do.

[imported_Silly~Darkness41]

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrre you were ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuurrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee you were going to take Tae Kwon Do, and who are you to talk about fitness. You know who you are, I know who you are, you know who I am.

[VelvetNinja]

haha...i suppose you're right....

And yeah, i really was thinking about taking Tae Kwon Do because my Dad is complaining about driving me to the place.

Anyway, is Tae Kwon Do good?

[DiGiTaL-X]

a friand of mine almost has a red belt..
tae kwon do is a sport that only teaches selfdefence. the first four years are practically a long course on anger managment and then you get to spar :D

[imported_Silly~Darkness41]

I don't know but if you go do you think maybe I could go to.

[VelvetNinja]

haha...anger management. Something i need sometimes :) .

I don't know but if you go do you think maybe I could go.

You're my stalker friend, of course you'd be able to go :roll: :D . LOL.

[imported_Silly~Darkness41]

Thanks <. .> sorry can't do the faces well.
~

[DiGiTaL-X]

>.> i want to go Kung Fu :D

[imported_Silly~Darkness41]

I plan on takeing action this summer and doing these.^ ^

[memechan]

Kendo and Aikido >_<

[Shi Miao Yi]

Is Tae Kwon Do good?

It's depends on the school and the teacher you'd be learning from. In my experience most TKD schools are malarky. Ask good questions when you check out a school for any martial art - ask about the lineage, if the place is a chain, how long the master has studied for, where did he learn, how many students does he have, etc.

Also prices - not to be cliche but most authentic schools charge very little. I paid about 30 bucks a month for my school and I trained like 24 hours a week there. I know of other schools that charge quite a bit and are authentic but a lot of the time you'll be able to tell by the sincerity of the teacher. If they seem like a bullshitter - they probably are.

[Koh-kun]

I do some karate but mostly swordsmanship I know this guy named Alex that started karate when he was 5 and so when he was 10 he was junior black belt but surprising it seems he didn't have enough physical strength to back up his knowledge of karate and he got owned by some kid with no previous karate or fighting experience it was pretty sad he had his kick stop mid way and was countered and hit his head against a tree...and there i was expecting the only black belt in my school to at least do a little damage. In my free time I like to pull off drunken fist sober but it uses up too much stamina which I do not have the way i train is practice with bokken practice random moves i made up and drink LOTS of milk >_> milk is the only thing that keeps me going -_-.

[Jak[Z]]

If you want to practice with a "sword" start kendo or aido

[Koh-kun]

I have 2 "swords" and one kama my favorite weapon right now. My firts sword is kinda rusty but then i got a stainlees steel "sword".kendo is boring to me and i have no talent for it so...

[Shi Miao Yi]

The way it is and the way it should be - you learn empty hand sets - you have to learn how to fight before you learn how to fight with swords - they are incredibly difficult to weild.

I have used the taiji straight sword, broadsword, and played around with the katana. I find the taiji straight sword to be the most fun and rewarding. It's usage is unlike any other weapon I've trained with. You never clank really it's all very precise minute movements, curvacious meant to displace energy and reroute it. Very strategic.

[Koh-kun]

I'm not to good with long swords or any other kind of long weapon I prefer short weapons such as sai,kama,tonfa they invaulve more than just weapon skills but also a pretty good amount of hand to hand experience some day I want to own a wakizashi but for the time being I'll stick to my normal stuff :) I started practicing karate at the age of 6 and started using weapons at 9 or 8 but not anything with a blade around that age I was doing kendo it got old fast I was too lazy to do it properly at the time so I eventually quit and went back to karate.And as for Tae kwon do it's a good starter for people that arn't serious about the whole fighting thing about a 40% of the people at my school know tae kwon do it's not all that hard from what i hear.

[Shi Miao Yi]

Ya, you're right actually. For people who are not serious about getting into a martial art and are looking for a good workout or something to hone your reflexes quickly go towards tae kwon do or kick boxing.

[Koh-kun]

I have to admit Tae kwon do is the funnest form of martial arts I have ever done lol.

[Shi Miao Yi]

Not for me. I found it booooring. It's so linear and basic, and 1 2, 1 2. There's no fluidity or adaptation. And all the kicks, come on, a real fight is one good punch to the head none of that kicking malarky (though it is fun).

[Koh-kun]

But if you are going to do Tae Kwon Do try Tae Bo first XD seriously I found the kicks are similar but MUCH faster in Tae Kwon Do. Tae Kwon Do dueals are the best lol and when I saw the Olympic matches I was going insane so many head blows it was like nothing I had ever seen before Korea v Spain or something anyways it was awsome :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :)

[Shi Miao Yi]

I've been in one bare knuckle kicking boxing max, pretty much anything goes. A kick to the head is devistating. A kick to damn near anywhere on your body by someone with strong legs and a good mabu (horse stance) will break whatever bone it hits.

TKD's stances are too low for proper kick power. Kung Fu makes you into a machine of death, but not.

[graff]

good to see another muy thai guy unless you do the gay american shit. TKDs stances arent low at all...not if you learn it right atleast. and ive found that TKDs stances are more devestating when it comes to high sweeps or axe kicks when compared to muy thai. I dont do bare knuckle anymore i dont have the heart for it and dont let that make you think that i wasnt any good at it. but after i ruined two guys carrer...well i just cant do that to people. but ive started brazilian jiu jitsu and capoiera now. im telling you if you think that your in shape just try doing capoiera

[imported_partlink1]

I take issinryu for about 3 years and i was wondering how would you say it ranks out of the other karate styles

[graff]

i couldnt say im not familiar with the style.

and for me i rank martial arts in terms of practicality...in otherwords if i was in a real fight with two other people would i be able to use it efficiently....thinking of it that way jeet kun do is the most effective and a close second is muy thai with jeet kun do back ground because you can reverse grabs into severe elbow strikes or another example is an standing arm bar to axe kick over opponents shoulder where you dont release and you can choke him out with your leg. TKD isnt very practical unless youve got godly speed with your legs.

[Shi Miao Yi]

All forms of Karate are good, you'll be able to defend yourself against most any situation if you are mentally and physicall prepared.

Any martial art can prepare you for streetfighting if you practice your kicks and punches enough. I can't stress this enough - one punch ends a fight. People are not made of metal. You punch someone hard enough in the head and they are down, or running away.

If you're looking to become a martial artist and compete against others I would suggest kung fu. Take about three or four forms, and do shanshou so you learn good hardcore sparring like muay thai. Muay thai is one art, kung fu is over 3,000 and encompasses every single style of fighting there is. Ground, joint manipulation, boxing, kicking boxing, everything is there.

[ClownSocs]

i havent started practicing ninjitsu yet but theres some great ones around (including real academys) and i really wanna become a full fledged ninja 8)

[Shi Miao Yi]

Good luck finding a decent ninjutsu school. Most of them are crocks of shit, in my honest opinion and bank off the fact that people know less than they think they know about ninjas.

[pandora666]

If you're looking to become a martial artist and compete against others I would suggest kung fu. Take about three or four forms, and do shanshou so you learn good hardcore sparring like muay thai. Muay thai is one art, kung fu is over 3,000 and encompasses every single style of fighting there is. Ground, joint manipulation, boxing, kicking boxing, everything is there.
Sorry to bust your bubble,but Pagratio is the oldest martial art (that even the ancient greeks used)that EVERY other martial art has taken from,and it has any technique you need from punches and kicks to grapples and submissions

[Shu2jack]

I high recommend against "street fighting". It is illegal. If you want to become good at "self-defense", I suggestion you start learning the laws of your state, get some weapon training (knife/gun), get the proper permits, and always carry.

If you are interested in sports fighting, study the art that goes to the compeition you want to compete in. If you want to do well in grappling tournaments, go to a grappling art that competes in those tournaments. If you want to kickbox, go to a kickboxing school. If you want to do TKD type sparring, learn at a TKD school. If you want MMA type fighting, go to a school that trains for that type of event. MMA is becoming its own "art".

[graff]

I high recommend against "street fighting". It is illegal. If you want to become good at "self-defense", I suggestion you start learning the laws of your state, get some weapon training (knife/gun), get the proper permits, and always carry.

If you are interested in sports fighting, study the art that goes to the compeition you want to compete in. If you want to do well in grappling tournaments, go to a grappling art that competes in those tournaments. If you want to kickbox, go to a kickboxing school. If you want to do TKD type sparring, learn at a TKD school. If you want MMA type fighting, go to a school that trains for that type of event. MMA is becoming its own "art".

your not stating anything that people who actually want to learn martial arts know. i cant stand weapons though im trained with a few such as bow staff and nunchucks. i think they are cowardly and take less discipline to use when compared to actual martial arts. but i do agree that street fights should be avoided at most any cost. they are too volatile and you dont know what could happen.

on another note ive just started capoiera. man its fun. if you wanna become flexible in any sort of situation and have a bg in martial arts then try it. im also looking into drunken boxing though its hard to find a school that teaches it properly.

[Shu2jack]

your not stating anything that people who actually want to learn martial arts know.

....what? Sorry, your sentence, and how it fits into the context of the rest of your paragraph and as a response, doesn't make sense to me.

I said what I said because most people don't know.

Weapons are not cowardly or take less discipline. Weapons are an equalizer and it takes a lot more discipline to train with them. Besides the fact that you can seriously injure your training partner with them, the use of weapons carries a lot more personal responsibility.

[graff]

the paragraph was a response to your post not just that one sentance. and in my experience most people know that if they are interested in a style like kickboxing you dont need to take tae kwon do. its just common sense.

as for weapons...you focus on specifically the use of that weapon. if you train in martial arts you focus on all aspects of that martial art. the throws punches kicks defense and general offense...in order to become profecient at it you must learn and focus on all of those thing, where as a weapon is focusing on that weapon and its uses.

[Shu2jack]

the paragraph was a response to your post not just that one sentance. and in my experience most people know that if they are interested in a style like kickboxing you dont need to take tae kwon do. its just common sense.


But most people lack common sense. When we hear things about Muay Thai being awesome for the street because it almost all about fighting, you have to wonder.

Also, things like comparing martial arts like some have been, you also have to wonder. Don't be comparing Judo to BJJ and talking about which is better. (Or any other two arts you want to compare.) It doesn't work like that. That is why I said what I said. Stop comparing and trying to cross-over arts. Pick out how you want to compete and pick the style that does it.

as for weapons...you focus on specifically the use of that weapon. if you train in martial arts you focus on all aspects of that martial art. the throws punches kicks defense and general offense...in order to become profecient at it you must learn and focus on all of those thing, where as a weapon is focusing on that weapon and its uses.

That doesn't make the weapon cowardly or mean that it requires less discipline to master. It just means that there is less material to work on, thus making what you are working on (that weapon) more focused.

[graff]

well youve got your opinions on a weapons and ive got mine. its just IMO it takes less skill to master a weapon when compared to an entire martial art.

and if you were talking about what i said about muy thai earlier its because it is effecient in those situations. i dont seek them out its just that at some point ive been put into them for allbe it stupid reason.

stop trying to compare and cross over arts? are you kidding me? how do you think the evolution of martial arts and different styles occured? it was through comparison and cross over. jeet kun do is the prime example of that. the fact is that if you are a competitive martial artist like i am then its almost given that you study more than ONE style. the more you know the better youll be. out of all of the martial artists that i know very very VERY few study one style and stick to that style strictly using only what they learned from that style. they study several and take bits and pieces of what they learned from others and incorporate it into that style thus making it more potent in competetion. i for instance started out with TKD and went on to kick boxing i used the techniques that i learned from TKD to my kicks in Muy Thai whose kicking techniques are often sloppy imo then i moved on to jeet kun do which taught me better insticts and reactions to certain situations that i wouldnt have known other wise. then i moved on to brazilian jiu jitsu which helped my rhythem and foot work. all of the things have been incorporated into the way that i use muy thai.

the only exception that i know of is Kung Fu which im guessing is what you study based on my opinion of you. they strictly discourage the study of any outside martial arts. and im not speaking down on you kung fu is as you said pretty much all incompasing however imo ALOT of it is just bs.

[Shu2jack]

and if you were talking about what i said about muy thai earlier its because it is effecient in those situations. i dont seek them out its just that at some point ive been put into them for allbe it stupid reason.

I don't remember who posted the Muay Thai comment. There could be multiple ones. The one I was referring to, as I remember, was someone picking Muay Thai because it is effective for the street.

stop trying to compare and cross over arts? are you kidding me? how do you think the evolution of martial arts and different styles occured? it was through comparison and cross over. jeet kun do is the prime example of that. the fact is that if you are a competitive martial artist like i am then its almost given that you study more than ONE style. the more you know the better youll be. out of all of the martial artists that i know very very VERY few study one style and stick to that style strictly using only what they learned from that style. they study several and take bits and pieces of what they learned from others and incorporate it into that style thus making it more potent in competetion. i for instance started out with TKD and went on to kick boxing i used the techniques that i learned from TKD to my kicks in Muy Thai whose kicking techniques are often sloppy imo then i moved on to jeet kun do which taught me better insticts and reactions to certain situations that i wouldnt have known other wise. then i moved on to brazilian jiu jitsu which helped my rhythem and foot work. all of the things have been incorporated into the way that i use muy thai.

This is why I said if you want to compete in a certain rule set, compete and learn that rule set. Each style has a certain method of training and a certain sparring ruleset. The techniques that develop and how those techniques are executed are influenced by the training methods, strategies, and sparring rules of that style. That is why Muay Thai and TKD kick differently. The needs of how they train and compete are a bit different.

Lets use Judo and BJJ for example. It can be argued that Judo is better at throwing while BJJ is better at ground work. Saying one is better than the other is retarded. It is ok to say that Judo has better throws and BJJ has better ground work and that both can learn from each other. But you also have to consider how they spar and their strategies.

BJJ's arguement is that all, if not most, fights will end up on the ground. So why train heavily in take down techniques if you will naturally end up there? You are better of learning what to do when you do get there. Judo on the other hand focuses on control of the opponent while standing and the throw. (Which will screw someone up if they are on a hard surface). BJJ could work on the throws and Judo would work on the ground work, but their strategies, competitions, and training methods are such that they don't really to focus on those other areas because of the their overall strategy.

So why would you compare arts like some of you are doing? Other arts are not even as similar as Judo and BJJ. Apples and oranges.

And no, I do not study Kung Fu. I study TKD, with A little experience in judo and boxing.

On a side note, isn't Jeet Kun do Bruce Lee's "style". Isn't that more of a philosophy rather than an art?

[Phoenix-Lord]

i tried to find some one who really knew how to use Jeet Kun Do properly, but couldn't find anyone. :( but then i have had at least 3 years of martial arts, 2 years of karate, 2 years of muy thai, and boxing. other than that i'm trying to larn the way of the sword thing. sort of skilled at it, but swing that katana after awhile gets tiring. :(

[Kuroda]

Wow Li, you're so lucky, how much did all of that cost?

[Ryko]

I mainly do Brazillian Jiu Jitsu, Submission Wrestling, Mixed Martial Arts and sometimes a bit seperated Boxing and vale-tudo ^^ Ground and pound for the win!!!

[Dream_Walker]

pailum kung fu. 3 weeks :) ( yes i'm a noob) . i would like to learn kendo or iado

[Shi Miao Yi]

I just started doing a local BJJ class. It's interesting. Different perspective than I had during my kung fu training.

[Shi Miao Yi]

Just found an aikido/iaido school.
Just did the trial class. It's amazingly fun.

[Named]

I was supposed to go to Ninjukai Taijutsu today, but I was too lazy :(

Can I please be shamed? I don't feel my own is ENOUGH, you see. Send it my way.

[Shi Miao Yi]

Shame. Your physical limitations should always be pushed. If you can't promise something to yourself you can't promise anything to anyone.

[Named]

That must be why I was even in agony trying to bow to my senpai and sensei yesterday evening :P

I'm graded in the middle of December. :/ Quite a way off.

[deathwalkerchigrl]

I do the art of Bob.