alchemy

[Dream_Walker]

from what i've heard , alchemy wasn't just something the creator of fma made up. its actually based on fact. i'm sure its not like it is in fma but does anybody no anything about real alchemy?

[DJ Jaime]

Don't tell me you don't know nothing about alchemy! :o

Well, Anyway, Alchemy does exist, and well, it's pretty similar to the "FMA Concept" of it ( Not that exagerated, but similar )

:wink:

[Bap]

Alchemists did exist...their goal was to try to make gold from other elements by trying to combine them and stuff or something like that

well their efforts were fruitless and many died from creating explosions, acids, deadly fumes...etc

their efforts weren't completely fruitless actually, chemists today have learned from them about what chemicals not to use and what they do when you mix and stuff

kinda cool...but not as cool as the alchemy in FMA

[ZrAeNiAn]

alchemy, the art to create gold out of plain lead.


Lead is for 99% equal in structure to gold. Alchemists tought they could manipulate the lead in a way to create it into gold. None ever succeeded in doing (as far as known)

As BAP said most of them died by wrong mixing of brews they made. Even in these days people sometimes try it to create gold.

-Zr-

[Mitch]

We talked about this in another topic if I remember, someone kept calling it magic and I got annoyed.

[Dream_Walker]

well their efforts were fruitless and many died from creating explosions, acids, deadly fumes...etc

lol. trial and error i guess.
i looked up alchemist in a dictionary and it said pretty much the same thing

[ZrAeNiAn]

We talked about this in another topic if I remember, someone kept calling it magic and I got annoyed.

Well in some way i agree to that, cause it used to be called alchemy or magic in those days to.

but in the literal way of magic its wrong indeed.

-Zr-

[Black_mage014]

Alchemy is a complex subject with many different interconnected aspects. Many people still only think of the quest of the philosophers' stone to change base metals into gold. So basically it really is about the philosopher's stone.So whoever made FMA is awesome at his own research of alchemy and making the anime.

[Named]

Yes, the Philosophers Stone is an older story about an Alchemist's search. I saw it at a book store the other day :P

[Bap]

i watched a movie about some guys blowing crap up...they movie called them modern alchemists

[Named]

"no spamming"
Is one of the spammiest posts i've ever seen :P

[Anbu Dr J]

ahaha...i deleted the post that i was saying "no spamming" lol i guess i'll delete that one too

[Lukasz]

i was calling alchemy in fma magic because it is magic (maybe not so normal :P )
alchemists werent fighters, they could not transmutate things. they were "scientists" working in labs, reaserching stuff about chemicals, finding out new stuff, making new compounds. most of them were trying to change lead into gold but it was nothing like in FMA. no symbols (okay. some crazy ppl might used symbols) no hitting ground with hands.
FMA is magic. just the magic in FMA follows laws more than magic for example in BG or FF. but it still doesnt have anything in common with real achemy.

[Dream_Walker]

i was calling alchemy in fma magic because it is magic (maybe not so normal :P )
alchemists werent fighters, they could not transmutate things. they were "scientists" working in labs, reaserching stuff about chemicals, finding out new stuff, making new compounds. most of them were trying to change lead into gold but it was nothing like in FMA. no symbols (okay. some crazy ppl might used symbols) no hitting ground with hands.
FMA is magic. just the magic in FMA follows laws more than magic for example in BG or FF. but it still doesnt have anything in common with real achemy.
i don't see why it isn't the same thing. they're basically the same concept. in order to gain something, you have to give something of equal value. its the same idea just exagerated

[Liquid-Fusion]

the simplest way to describe alchemy is cemestry a long time ago like making an invention was known as alchemy

[Lukasz]

exactly
it was chemistry, it wasnt "from water, iron, carbon, oxygen lets make horse"

[vegita625]

alchemy, the art to create gold out of plain lead.


Lead is for 99% equal in structure to gold. Alchemists tought they could manipulate the lead in a way to create it into gold. None ever succeeded in doing (as far as known)

As BAP said most of them died by wrong mixing of brews they made. Even in these days people sometimes try it to create gold.

-Zr-
If I remember right, wasn't the real science of chemisty born from the ideas of alchemy? (learning the structure and properties of elements and compounds and such)

Also, I'm pretty sure it is possible to create gold from lead using nuclear techniques we know of now, but the techniques are much, much more expensive than the results you'll get (to pay to have it done), so it doesn't mean much.

[Ketamean]

Come on guys havent you ever watched the movie Hudson Hawk? (Altho a movie it still holds some credible facts) DiVinci was considered one of the first alchemists as he was one of the first to try and change lead to gold as an offering for the king.

[Lukasz]

LOL. i saw it. very good and funny
but it was comedy. it was not real, dude ;)
Leo might have been interested in alchemy (he was interested in all things :D ) but i am pretty sure that he did not achieve anything important (in alchemy)

[lordblazer]

from what i've heard , alchemy wasn't just something the creator of fma made up. its actually based on fact. i'm sure its not like it is in fma but does anybody no anything about real alchemy?

yeah your pretty slow dude.Alchemy was teh basis of chemistry.Heck if it wasnt for alchemy chemistry wouldnt be here.

But basicly alchemist were a bunch of idiots tryint to turn a piece of scrap metal into gold.

[otaku]

well from what i know real alchemy was techniques in mixing chemicals, elements, etc. but useing something such as a transmutation circle is only a myth......

[NeoDreamer]

well from what i know real alchemy was techniques in mixing chemicals, elements, etc. but useing something such as a transmutation circle is only a myth......

Thats partically correct, if you read historic documents about Alchemy, you'll find that it was a mixing of potions that when put on other chemicals it would change them. (such as green paint makes a brown table turn green, as acid makes a chair degrade) Sort of like that, but it was also a myth how people can change regular objects into something else which what was the initial idea was based off of.

[Mindblade16]

Also there was the concept of "Inner Alchemy" which involved changing and evolving your core self through psychological techniques

[thedevilyouknow]

Alchemy:
1. A medieval chemical philosophy having as its asserted aims the transmutation of base metals into gold, the discovery of the panacea, and the preparation of the elixir of longevity.
2. A seemingly magical power or process of transmuting

enjoy
i thought it was pretty cool how they made it a mix of magic and science.... reminded me of Secret of Evermore for SNES

[Kitsuki]

Im pretty sure with modern day technology alcehmy would be possible. The only differnece between lead and iron is an electron in the 3rd shell or something liek that. If that electron could be forcebly added by some method then it would turn the metal into gold. But the stff in fma was basically all crap. But the anime was good so who cares.

[bloodfox]

they say on FMA that they dont use magic but they dont mix the ingedients the just chang them with who knows what power (poff) its done real alcamy would take a long time and mixtures

[venin]

i really dont think that real alchemystry can change stuff if it could we would be able to do it now thx to them

[sakurablossomfighter]

I wish I had alchemy