Ninja vs. Samurai

[Jiraiya_sama]

The title speaks for itself.

[temjinxzarron]

if it was a face to face battle then i would probally place my money on the samurai.

[Madoshi]

I practice Ninjutsu by myself, so I would go for the Ninja :P

[Jiraiya_sama]

If you practive Ninjustu, you would know your best chance of attack is by stealth, which in a open battle is hard to do

[Madoshi]

Well, I don't know much about Samurai, but they use their katana's right? well the art i practice is called Ninpo Bujutsu, don't know if somebody knows it :P But it is not all based on stealth. More the fast and efficient way of killing or injuring your opponent. Bone breaking, attacks on the muscles and so. Ow and one thing i really like is that we practice al lot with wapons, from shuriken till Rokushakkubo.

[SynFcuk]

i'd just shoot a samurai why waste your energy and time trying to go stealth? :idea:

[Jiraiya_sama]

The question is which one would win in a fight, not what modern weapons could take them out the quickest. :evil:

[SynFcuk]

i would say ninja... more indept with hand to hand combat skills rather than a blade...

[Gmex]

ninja all thhe way

[SynFcuk]

i mean.. what's a samurai w/o his blade?

[Gmex]

i mean.. what's a samurai w/o his blade?
then part of his soul would be missing a samuries sword holds part of his soul

[SynFcuk]

man... thats one major weakness.. :? what if their sword some how happens to break...?

hehe probably release their true inner-demon self :twisted:

[thompkinsbrian]

if you know anything about samurai you would know that they study sword fighting as well as another form such as ju jit su. read a book or two. samurai in a face to face fight would kill a ninja. but a ninja can kill a samurai. it is all depending upon circumstances

[Jiraiya_sama]

if you know anything about samurai you would know that they study sword fighting as well as another form such as ju jit su. read a book or two. samurai in a face to face fight would kill a ninja. but a ninja can kill a samurai. it is all depending upon circumstances

exactly. I'm glad someone else knows there stuff. Samurai are skilled in more than one area, but they are warriors that don't fight there battles with stealth unlike the ninja, who were assasins hired by individuals who could pay up. I'm not sure if it is said in the manga or the anime, but the 3rd says this at one point- that the shinobi do missions of people who can pay.

[SynFcuk]

anyone watched the Last Samurai?

[Gmex]

anyone watched the Last Samurai?
no but it looks wicked

[SynFcuk]

then you should watch it... it's really good

but then again... it's tom cruise... you would've thought he'd make another action movie..

[Jiraiya_sama]

anyone watched the Last Samurai?
I saw it. At first I was like, "the last samurai is a white? This is gonna be interesting. Then I saw it and I was like, "not bad". By the time it was done, I was wishing to get out of the theater. It was good but a little too long.

[temjinxzarron]

Not yet is it any good :?:

[SynFcuk]

anyone watched the Last Samurai?
I saw it. At first I was like, "the last samurai is a white? This is gonna be interesting. Then I saw it and I was like, "not bad". By the time it was done, I was wishing to get out of the theater. It was good but a little too long.

lol I KNOW!!! i was like... okay.. Tom Cruise... a samurai??!!

what happened to mission impossible?

[SynFcuk]

and yes it is good.. even though he's white lol

[Gmex]

thats racism even though the best samurai moives has asian people instead

[SynFcuk]

nahh not racism.. i was just saying "what happened to mission impossible??"

i'm guessing he's probably getting older and doing movies that deal with life/romance

yes... romance :wink:

[temjinxzarron]

I guess he decided to go with a different type of movies i guess.

[W R X]

Not to be offensive or anything but white samurai makes me scared. *runs off into a corner* :cry:

[SynFcuk]

lol in that movie Tom kinda knew alittle bit of Japanese.. and since he's an american.. you can't speak another language to make fun of him.. or talk behind his back.. he'll probably gonna do the karate chop action on you

lol

[wassup2091]

lol ya, that movie was pretty good, better than i expected by far

[hell6knight]

http://www.clho.net/anime/kenshin/himura.gif

VS

http://orangeday.net/kakashi/quiz/2343/sasuke.gif

actually i like both of them...either ninja or samurai...but if i were reallly have to choose i'll choose the ninja klan, because they are a master in preparing trap....coz in a fight tactical strategies are also important........gicing the ninjas an handicap to win the match

so.......ganbate NINJA

[wassup2091]

ninja should always beat samurai because that is their purpose

[SynFcuk]

and plus.. you get to do so much more being a ninja..

[wassup2091]

yea samurai suck all they got is a katana ninjas get kunai and swords and mannquin dolls, so take that samurai HA

[Aosagi]

I believe in a skilled match between a Samurai and Ninja that the Ninja with their skills in both close quarter combat and from afar. A Samurai has few weapons other that his katana and while a samurai is a skilled warrior he is more designed for all out war then he would be for a fight against a ninja who is a trained assasain.

The Last Samurai was an excellent movie and seemed to have been pretty accurate historically. Has anyone seen the orignal made in the 1990's?

Im sry but i have to disagree... I believe in actuality a samurai ahs an advantage when it comes to close quarters combat. A ninja will have to use distance and stealth. its the only they got on them

[SynFcuk]

The Last Samurai was an excellent movie and seemed to have been pretty accurate historically. Has anyone seen the orignal made in the 1990's?

there's an original??

[Aosagi]

yeah it was made in 1990, you can read more about it at yahoo movies http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hv&cf=info&id=1800234525&intl=us from what I understand its better then this new one but I haven't been able to get a hold of it anywhere. I'll probably have to order it at SunCoast.

[thompkinsbrian]

ninja have no advantages in close quarters NONE the only way a ninja is gonna kill a samurai is while he is asleep or his back is turned from long range

[Blue_Raine]

if it was sword to sword combat, it would probably be samurai, cause they train every 3 hours or so. If it was a more of open combat, with a full field, ninja would ownage, cause they specialize in stealth. I don't care if anyone else posted this reply, i don't read all the posts. (and goddamn i hope my avatar shows up)

[Dweezil]

theres no probably about it

Samurai > Ninja in close quarters
Ninja > Samurai at stealth and long range

im sry but like i said ninja dont stand a chance at close quarters against a samurai. They will need to fight at a distance or catch them off guard. THEY CANNOT MATCH THEIR SWORDSMANSHIP a samurai's swordsmanship far exceeds taht of a ninja because ninjas were meant to be assassins who use the cover of night and stealth to kill...

[Blue_Raine]

if the samurai kept their armour on, they would lose pitifully. Someone mentioned that samurai was designed for strictly war, your'e right. all that armour's gotta stop some swords. it would interfere, however, with their mobility (at least i think so). Ninja would be too fast for the samurai to pull off the slice. it takes time to pull off the clean cut.

[Aosagi]

Kakashi4evr I agree. I am not in anyway dishonoring the samurai they are formidible warriors and excellent in the combat of war, they were also good with their cavalry, but when they rode into battle they were anything but subtle and if they were in their armour they would have trouble keeping up with the attack of the ninja. The ninja could easily attack from afar and bring their attack in closer for a kill. Where as most samurai didn't have arrows with them most rode with only a katana and would need to be closer to attack.

[Dweezil]

i dont think theres any way of really knowing which is better... because battle is a random thing, you never know if you're gonna get caught by suprise or have to fight in the open. so either way, they could both kick my ass and thats all that really matters :lol:

[Bap]

i would have to go with the samurai....my dad is a sword master (basically equivelant to samurai). samurais just don't practice with their katanas, but also practice the hand-to-hand combat...my dad practices shitoryu and teaches his students how to use japanese weapons i.e. samurai sword, bo, sai, and ths night stick things and the rice cutter things...quite interesting really....teh ninja would be cut down in a blink of an eye

[Blue_Raine]

ask your dad if the samurai could win with full armour. I'm fairly experienced with katanas, nothing professional, but good enough to question how good a samurai would move with full armour. no discredit or anything, just something to think about.

[SynFcuk]

ask your dad if the samurai could win with full armour. I'm fairly experienced with katanas, nothing professional, but good enough to question how good a samurai would move with full armour. no discredit or anything, just something to think about.

i agree... if... SOMEHOW the samurai were to drop his sword... he'll be in a MAJOR disadvantage... because of his arm length (reach), weight, and mobility...

[thompkinsbrian]

Samurais arent wearing armor like the ones that people in europe weighed it is a lot lighter. and they are never at a disadvantage close up. dropping there sword or not. and why would they drop their sword a trained samurai isnt gonna just drop his sword. thats like saying what if they ninja came out into the open and announced himself. i have said this many times they train in had to hand combat as well as sword. and to do ju jit su you dont need much mobility just a little speed and you can break a person in half

exactly i dont know what your talking about when your saying that their armor weighs them down THAT MUCH... THAT WOULD BE A KNIGHT that is in that situation, while a samurai has their armor only in certain locations of the body. and if a ninja came close to a samurai it woudl be suicide for that ninja they ahve to keep at a distance. no way for them to win up close. and i tottally agree with thompkinsbrian if he were a real samurai he wouldnt drop his sword.

[SynFcuk]

what i meant from dropping their sword is.. either losing balance.. GOT THEIR HAND SLICED OFF BY A NINJA STAR... :lol:

i dought a star can dismember anybody but make a pretty nice wound. and thats like saying if a samurai chopped at a nins legs and he couldnt move... not exactly very fair now is it ?

[thompkinsbrian]

watch a cartoon called black lion then you would know. a samurai owns OWNS ninja. unlesss they get him while he is asleep

[Bap]

i think samurais just wear armor in war and battles and crap...i've seen alot of old historical japanese movies like Samurai 1, 2, and 3 but its about musashi miyomoto (great samurai). in the movie, he had no armor (like in alot of japanese movies) and fought and killed 1000 guys at once...great scene :D Seven Samurai is also a good one :D

[Dweezil]

Toshira Mifnue = god of all old samurai flicks.... Seven Samuria, Hidden Fortress, Yojimbo, they're all great


(not sure if i spelled his name right, so if not, bite me :lol: )

[thompkinsbrian]

yeah when they jump on their horse and are about to ride to battle they put on there armor. you wont see a samurai runnig around all the time with his armor on

[Bap]

Toshira Mifnue = god of all old samurai flicks.... Seven Samuria, Hidden Fortress, Yojimbo, they're all great


(not sure if i spelled his name right, so if not, bite me :lol: )

close enough =) yeah he is great...yojimbo is another good one

[Bap]

ask your dad if the samurai could win with full armour. I'm fairly experienced with katanas, nothing professional, but good enough to question how good a samurai would move with full armour. no discredit or anything, just something to think about.

it wouldn't effect the samurai's movement much because their armor is made of bamboo...so its light weight...

[Fuu-Rai-Sen]

Ok well theres nothijng saying that a Ninja cant be as skilled as a samurai with a sword...

Its possible that there were ninjas that were just as skilled as some samurai with a sword...

The thing is...Samurais used Katana's...Which are probably the greatest swords ever made...While ninjas usually used Smaller Swords like Tanto's and Wakazashi and Ninja-To's...So when both those swords ever clashed against 1 another theres a really good chance that the Katana would just break those Smaller swords...Ninjas i dont believe used Katanas that much due to the fact that they are pretty long and usually pretty heavy...if your a ninja speed is essential, so wearing stuff thats heavy isnt very good...

But Ninja also used Kisagarme i believe is the right name for it,,.,,its a long chain with a sickle on 1 end and a ball weight at the other...usually the ninja would throw this and try and get it around the Samurais Katana and then disarm him or atleast tie his sword hand up so that he could go in for the kill...

And like everyone has said here...Ninjas basically always Killed by Stealth. Alot of times they would wait for samurais to sleep or when they were out patroling the edges of thier encampments they would sneak up and kill them that way...

Anyways...It realyy depends on the 2 people that are fighting...It doesnt matter whether the person was a samurai or a ninja ...that doesnt decide the outcome...what decides the outcome is the Skill LvL ...not the title..

[Dweezil]

agreed..... plus it doesnt matter anyway... what really matters is i could kill either of em nowadays :lol:

*grabs an m4a1* owned

[Dweezil]

nah, thats overkil... just get a Ruger Mark II target pistol and you're good to go

good point.. ok how about this m9 :) tahts nto toooooo bad

[RoninJester]

I noticed people mention the hand-to-hand skills a samurai knows, but I've noticed that for the most part people are saying that a samurai only has his katana. Thats just wrong. Most samurai also carried the short sword, because the katana tends to be clumsy indoors, or other tight places. Also some samurai carried small throwing knifes attached to the side of thier swords scabbard.

So in the end everything equals out. the Samurai kill Ninja and Ninja kill Samurai.

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[SynFcuk]

I noticed people mention the hand-to-hand skills a samurai knows, but I've noticed that for the most part people are saying that a samurai only has his katana. Thats just wrong. Most samurai also carried the short sword, because the katana tends to be clumsy indoors, or other tight places. Also some samurai carried small throwing knifes attached to the side of thier swords scabbard.

So in the end everything equals out. the Samurai kill Ninja and Ninja kill Samurai.

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i think that small sword is used to kill himself to have an honorable death...

i'll laugh if a so-called samurai attack me with a puny knife HAHAHA

[shikamaru]

well, i've read a lot of the posts and i would probably have to go with the ninja. Ninjas don't have much equipmentmentation, so, they have to rely on a lot of stealth, or possibly, a fast kill. so their speed are tremendously higher than a samurai because most samurais have armor, but that's good too! they may be a bit slower, less reaction because they can't really see in all directions if they have their helmets, but when it comes to sword fighting, or face to face combat, the Samurai is more on the edge of winning. the ninja, would have a disadvantage when head of fights, so then, everything is relied on skillz. So, i don't know, i guess it all depends of how smart the fighter is. If he could see and understand the situation and use it the his advantage, and can read his opponents moves, then he could be a very effective fighter...(looks like a book now...)

[RoninJester]

i think that small sword is used to kill himself to have an honorable death...

i'll laugh if a so-called samurai attack me with a puny knife HAHAHA

Ok a samurai carring small knives sounds funny, guess I forgot to mention that samurai who carried them came around during the times when yojimbo and other thugs started carring guns. The ronin who could not afford such a luxary used throwing knives as the only means of equaling those snigle shot pistols. As for their short swords, true they were used for performing harakiri, but it was also a last means weapons, should they somehow lose the long sword, but also for indoors combat, because like I said the long sword tends to become clumsy indoors and tight places.

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[Blue_Raine]

single pistols versus blades? surely you jest.....like c'mon, that's like tying yourself to a tree and having mike tyson pound your cheeks in. one pull of a trigger, and you're dead. for the short knife, you'd need to pull it out, flick, then wait....

[RoninJester]

I didnt mean it in the sense of head to head combat. cuz you're right head to head against a gun is dumb. The idea was to ambush you person with the gun, and hope to hit them in their gun arm, otherwise..well I'm sure you can guess


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[Bap]

the thing is...a ninja wouldn't fight with a samurai...the ninja avoid such confrontations and just poison the samurai in his sleep...so if you mean who would win in a one-on-one fight, the samurai...if you mean who would kill the other one first...the ninja..he would kill the samurai the very first night. and the wakizashi (small sword) is used for fighting in tight spaces. and as far as the gun goes...the samurai is dead unless he catches the gun-weilder off guard or the gun-weilder has terrible aim

[thompkinsbrian]

well, i've read a lot of the posts and i would probably have to go with the ninja. Ninjas don't have much equipmentmentation, so, they have to rely on a lot of stealth, or possibly, a fast kill. so their speed are tremendously higher than a samurai because most samurais have armor, but that's good too! they may be a bit slower, less reaction because they can't really see in all directions if they have their helmets,


samurais do not wear armor all the damn time. what is wrong with you people. they wear it when they are about to go to war. not when they are walking around the house. a ninja would never fight a samurai. they would kill them while they slept or poison them. and if they did fight head on a samurai would win. a ninja doesnt necessarily have more speed then a samurai. it depends on the person

[Bap]

it can't get much more clearer than that...thank you thompkinsbrian

[Blue_Raine]

yeah but if it was a war, the ninja would win, even close combat, cause as i said in anotehr post, samurai's armour (if worn) would seriously deter mobility. in a sword fight, or any fight for that matter, how quickly you move is an extreme factor. with armor, the ninja would win, but if it was without armour, whoever was the better swordsman would win. in an actualy full-out tactics war, i'm not sure. that's why we got thompkinsbrian.

[PsycheDiver]

it all depends on the situation...you can't answer this overall...

[thompkinsbrian]

ninjas wouldnt last in a war with samurai. cause first of all they have to make it past the archers the guys with the rifles and so on. ninjas are never a part of actual war. anyone here ever trained their entire life to be a samurai. anyone had armor for many years working out with it. by the time you are old enough to be a samurai the armor wouldnt impede movement. check this out it is based on REAL research and people that know what they are talking about


http://www.quanonline.com/military/military_reference/japanese/samurai_armor.html

for more information check you local library, or ask a grown up

[PsycheDiver]

ninjas wouldnt last in a war with samurai. cause first of all they have to make it past the archers the guys with the rifles and so on. ninjas are never a part of actual war. anyone here ever trained their entire life to be a samurai. anyone had armor for many years working out with it. by the time you are old enough to be a samurai the armor wouldnt impede movement. check this out it is based on REAL research and people that know what they are talking about


http://www.quanonline.com/military/military_reference/japanese/samurai_armor.html

for more information check you local library, or ask a grown up

that's very true...ninja were used in different situations entirly...so asking which would win in a fight is a blind question...

[thompkinsbrian]

i said at the VERY beginning of this thread it all depends who is fighting. when and where they are fight, what the circumstances of the fight are. on any given day anyone can beat anyone depending on the situational circumstances

[PsycheDiver]

i said at the VERY beginning of this thread it all depends who is fighting. when and where they are fight, what the circumstances of the fight are. on any given day anyone can beat anyone depending on the situational circumstances

ah...so sorry...must have missed that...and of course you are right :wink:

[SynFcuk]

man... brian is like bully'ing everybody here LOL i haven't seen anybody beat him in arguing since... and plus... he's a mod lol

[Dweezil]

maybe he deletes when people beat him :wink:

[Blue_Raine]

do u enjoy kicking all of our asses in arguing, thompkins? :P jeez, has aynone ever won an argument with you?

[Bap]

well...since i'm on the same side as brian, does that mean i won too?

[Blue_Raine]

yea sure....but you're being a dishonourable coward....meh whatever u want man

[thompkinsbrian]

i dont get beat so why would i dlete posts. and if i did get beat i would let the person know that they won. i dont know how to lose. so i dont expect that to happen

[PsycheDiver]

i dont get beat so why would i dlete posts. and if i did get beat i would let the person know that they won. i dont know how to lose. so i dont expect that to happen

wow...cocky...and to a fault it appears...

[Blue_Raine]

that's how you get when you win....

[Dweezil]

nah, i could beat him if i cared in the slightest sense.... but he'll realize that "beating" people in arguements on the forums really shows nothing of a persons true intellect :wink:

[Blue_Raine]

point taken....we just lose on purpose.....since he's a mod and we all need something to do online :o

[PsycheDiver]

nah, i could beat him if i cared in the slightest sense.... but he'll realize that "beating" people in arguements on the forums really shows nothing of a persons true intellect :wink:

why would it not be a test of true intellect? i think it would be...

we shall have to see when brian and i conflict. But for the most part we seem to have simillar views on most things... Must be the socom within us...

[Jiraiya_sama]

we cant forget that samurai are more or less just payed bodyguards while ninjas are payed assasins. So in a sense, they would end up in conflict anyway if, lets say one client wants a person dead while the person pays the samurai to protect him or herself. Would it not then be common place that ninja and samurai often got into fights? Samurai might best be known as a full armor, slow moving character, but just like in the early episodes of naruto, when the two samurai come to take or kill (I can't remember) the mother of that kid (wish I knew names here :wink: ), they were not in armor. Now one might say that they were easily destoyed by Naruto but lets not forget how he beat them. All I'm saying is that these to occupation prob met on many an occation and should not be under estimated.

[SynFcuk]

i would say... in bodyguard positions... a samurai would be a disadvantage mainly because they can only fight in close quarters... while the ninja of course.. have a much broader range which i consider ninja's as "all-round warriors" because they use the envirnoment as their weapon also :wink:

now i'm not dissing a samurai

[PsycheDiver]

we cant forget that samurai are more or less just payed bodyguards while ninjas are payed assasins. So in a sense, they would end up in conflict anyway if, lets say one client wants a person dead while the person pays the samurai to protect him or herself. Would it not then be common place that ninja and samurai often got into fights? Samurai might best be known as a full armor, slow moving character, but just like in the early episodes of naruto, when the two samurai come to take or kill (I can't remember) the mother of that kid (wish I knew names here :wink: ), they were not in armor. Now one might say that they were easily destoyed by Naruto but lets not forget how he beat them. All I'm saying is that these to occupation prob met on many an occation and should not be under estimated.

good point...but i doubt even if we looked into the histroy books that there would be a clear-cut winner...

I just think PERSONALLY that the nin style is better... I mean yes when a samurai is aware its a very difficult battle for a nin but thats the point... You ARENT supposed to know that a ninja is present if so they already failed. Thats is the way it is.. Complete stealth and quick asissination.

[PsycheDiver]

I just think PERSONALLY that the nin style is better... I mean yes when a samurai is aware its a very difficult battle for a nin but thats the point... You ARENT supposed to know that a ninja is present if so they already failed. Thats is the way it is.. Complete stealth and quick asissination.

good point...personally i can't say which i like better...

[thompkinsbrian]

i go to japan in a few months illl take both and let you know

[PsycheDiver]

i go to japan in a few months illl take both and let you know

lol...cool...take pics :wink:

[mistapooo]

Ninjas are actually samurais who has to do special assassination missions for their lords. They aren't meant to be known, usually infiltrating a house or something like that and take out an important person then skidaddle....so if a samurai vs ninja head to head, maybe samurai win? Depends on the ninjas weapon? He's suppose to carry kunai and such....so against a sword? :?

[Blue_Raine]

shurikens.....i don't see anybody deflecting a barrage of razor sharp shurikens anytime soon....

[Blue_Raine]

btw, i figured out how thompkins wins all these arguments. check it out: http://funkypages.com/poemsandtext/argue/index.php never has the word "bullshit" had so much meaning....

[Dweezil]

ROFL, brian just got owned

[PsycheDiver]

Ninjas are actually samurais who has to do special assassination missions for their lords. They aren't meant to be known, usually infiltrating a house or something like that and take out an important person then skidaddle....so if a samurai vs ninja head to head, maybe samurai win? Depends on the ninjas weapon? He's suppose to carry kunai and such....so against a sword? :?

it seemed to fell into the same trap that we all did...it's all about smaller factors...there's no clear-cut winner...

shurikens.....i don't see anybody deflecting a barrage of razor sharp shurikens anytime soon....

well i can see deflections happening...though that would be hard...

btw, i figured out how thompkins wins all these arguments. check it out: http://funkypages.com/poemsandtext/argue/index.php never has the word "bullshit" had so much meaning....

just won't load for me...i'll bookmark it and try agian later...

[thompkinsbrian]

lol. that was good. i give you props for wasting your time to find that

[Blue_Raine]

anytime buddy. anytime.

[Marvdogg]

ninjas own.. these arnt normal ninjas either look at naruto he goes all crazy out in the open

[Blue_Raine]

if it really came down to it, the ninja would win. he'd probably take sand and throw at the guys eyes, then kick him in the knees. decapitation would follow.

but in a FAIR fight, which most of us probably don't know means, then the samurai would so completely win... :? go figure...

[Shi Miao Yi]

I don't remember if I posted here before, but ninja were corrupt warriors. The art isn't unique.

Also, blocking shurikens is not that difficult. In my school of kung fu we had to catch them. Trust me, virtually anything is possible with enough time and training.

(I have totally posted about this before, I remember posting it more than once actually)

[thompkinsbrian]

if i am standing 50ft from you, in an open field, with an Uzi and start spraying before you move no manner of training will save you.

[Zone]

I actually think the ninja would... Cause the samurai would do everything by the code of Bushido... A ninja would cheat if he needed to!

[nawar]

this ninja style your talking of, it sounds pretty much like something adolf hitler would say

[thompkinsbrian]

HAHAHAHAAA

[nawar]

well what do ya say, it actualy worked :?
il be darn

[Shi Miao Yi]

Hahahaha.

[abarameshino]

I did a report on samurai so ill shine a little of my knowledge. Samurai dont actually use their swords. That is unless they are used on who they are intended to kill, by their master. That is the code of Bushido. They train in other forms of fighting like axes and bows. They usually carry a tonfa which is a bladed war fan. There armor is cord based to insure ease of movement especially for practicioners of Iai justu (quick draw swords). The ninja would have an increased mobility but the samurai would still wind do to his increased knowledge of strategem and combat styles (most samurai also practice at least one form of martial arts)

[WildWolfay]

Well nearly everyone during feudal Japan studied a martial art, and if my memory serves me correctly, Samurai's would study over 3 martial arts, and 2 arts. It all depended on who you served, though.

Ninja's weren't held by such a strict code, they had a lot more "freedom", so to say. They also weren't limited to what they could learn, or what they had to learn, from a master.

[Madoshi]

Ninja would win.

Ninja live in a village in the mountains. The live for their own, in harmony with the nature and their fellow inhabitants. They practise nature meditation and take care of live. You should really read something about Ninja, the Iga or Koga province in Japan is famous about their former Ninja's.
The view which most of you guy's have is based on what you have seen on TV, and the most shows are not positive about ninja's. they're always killers or bounty hunters etc.

[thompkinsbrian]

i havent read much about ninja's except for some of the trainings that they go through but i have read about the samurai what i have said about samurai is accurate. and you never gave any real reason why ninja would win

[Madoshi]

I think that has been said many times in this topic. With the stealth etc. Ninja were real killers and new how it a battle on life or death felt like. They fought only for their own and to survive. I think their experiance with killing would be an advantage for the Ninja's. They also master a lot of weapons, like shuriken, rokushakkubo, kusari-fundo, sai, nagenata etc. I mean, if they stand face to face, a samurai has got his sword, but what else could he do without his sword? Some basic martial art things..., that wouldn't be enough to kill a ninja...

[thompkinsbrian]

once again i think it all depends on circumstances. if you are gonna limit the samurai then what if the ninja is limited as well. a lot of factors go into who will win and who will not it isnt just a simple question of ninja vs samurai. it is a question of circumstances and possibilites, anything can happen in real life

[Madoshi]

I think you're right there...

[abarameshino]

people should read more of the posts samurai dont just use swords. Horrid misconception. Samurai in actuallity hardly ever use there swords, relying more other fighting styles, tessan, tonfa, yari, naginata, sai, axe (cant think of proper name), let alone the three seperate swords of the tonto, katana and wakisashi. And whos to say a samurai wont carry shurikans,


there is no rule about not playing dirty in bushindo either. Bushido is just the code swearing honor to the lord. It also implements that you can not use your sword against the undeserving, so no mindless slaughter. Stop using your movies to judge.

[Named]

Hmmm, I agree with brian. It's not so simple. Ninja vs Samurai... What about the amount of years either has trained? How good of a ninja or samurai they are. :?

[GaoShin]

can a ninja be promoted to samari or are they two diffrent warrior types?

[Shi Miao Yi]

They are two totally seperate entities.

[Named]

uhh... Well I think if you approached a ninja and said "When do you get promoted to samurai?" They would break your neck for insulting them.

That's a no...

[Blue_Raine]

uhh... Well I think if you approached a ninja and said "When do you get promoted to samurai?" They would break your neck for insulting them.

That's a no...

lol....good one. they'd probably just stab your eyes with shuriken and be done with you... :shock:

[Madoshi]

Samurai in actuallity hardly ever use there swords, relying more other fighting styles, tessan, tonfa, yari, naginata, sai, axe (cant think of proper name), let alone the three seperate swords of the tonto, katana and wakisashi. And whos to say a samurai wont carry shurikans,


The Ninja's do also use this weapons, all of them....

[masa]

i think the best of the best samurai should be aware ALL the time, meaning a ninja shouldnt be able to use stealth to beat them, and therefore loses his advantage. and a samurai should be able to beat a ninja in a straight fight no problem.

[GaoShin]

:oops: anyways...


yeah. I think so. it's all about circumstances and the level they are at.

Hummmmm.......a really good legendary ninja vs a really good legendary samari.......