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Cenance
03-14-2004, 07:17 PM
Now I'm quite unsure who would win? I mean, Sasuke has the Sharingan, he got the superspeed, plus that he can use Ninja tecniques... But then, Lee has the gates.. And Lee has better stamina I think

I think it would be a long battle, but when its over I think Sasuke would be the one
standing

jdsuave2003
03-14-2004, 09:52 PM
Ok, yeah, defenitely Sasuke, mainly I'd say that because he alredy copied Lee's "Konoha Blossom" move and nearly all of his hand to hand combat styles, sooo i think that coupled with his other ninjutsus ( not to mention the chidori) I think puts sasuke over the top.

Adobek
03-14-2004, 10:14 PM
yeah, most definitly sasuke...he's just too powerful, he's got the speed, techniques, and sharingan. He knows how to use kakashis power and as time goes own he will only get stronger, while lee doesn't have as much room to grow

jdsuave2003
03-14-2004, 11:14 PM
yeah, that and ya know lee's kinda....impaired...now... poor lee :cry:

03-14-2004, 11:20 PM
Sasuke opens seal, any more questiosn?

jdsuave2003
03-14-2004, 11:50 PM
Yeah....how do you like your Lee? regular? or extra crispy? :twisted:

SynFcuk
03-15-2004, 12:37 AM
obivously sasuke because lee said so himself that he's jealous of him

jdsuave2003
03-15-2004, 12:41 AM
heh, maybe lee's just jealous cuz sasuke can still walk... :roll:

SynFcuk
03-15-2004, 12:45 AM
nope... because sasuke obtained that speed and power within a month...

while rock took years and years

thompkinsbrian
03-15-2004, 03:48 AM
poor lee no one has faith in him....thats what he gets for being only above average

jdsuave2003
03-15-2004, 04:23 AM
well, to be honest, it was one of those things where, lee can only get so good, before his lack of ability in the area of ninjutsu and genjutsu catch up to him.. :?

ChaosGenkaku
03-15-2004, 04:39 AM
I am the first to put my trust in Lee...
If you want them to give their best during the fight, Lee with gates opened is invincible.
HARD WORK > GENIUS

jdsuave2003
03-15-2004, 05:14 AM
thats true, but hes gonna have to learn how to open up the death gate before hes invincible...

thompkinsbrian
03-15-2004, 05:24 AM
hard work>genius

but this isnt the case with sasuke cause he is working hard as well

so hark working average guy<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<hardworking genius

jdsuave2003
03-15-2004, 05:36 AM
couldnt have said it any better myself brian

Madoshi
03-15-2004, 02:11 PM
Sasukeeeeee would win. he's good. But still, lee is my favorite :P

nawar
03-15-2004, 05:45 PM
and again IM COOL 8)
lee rocks, or was it nou rock lee :? huh like i care anyway i voted for lee, he is older and everyone knows that older guys kick jounger guys :twisted:

Bap
03-15-2004, 07:18 PM
i think lee can beat sasuke...

*SPOILERS*

the only reason lee didn't beat gaara is because gaara's gourd turned into sand to cushin him...sasuke couldn't beat gaara because gaara turned into a monster...thats why gaara kicks ass....oh well if lee opened his gates on sasuke, sasuke wouldn't be able to match lee's speed and lee would run super fast around sasuke and beat the crap out of him

*END OF SPOILERS*

nawar
03-15-2004, 08:00 PM
bap??? your okay :D :wink:

ChaosGenkaku
03-15-2004, 09:36 PM
Totally agreed with Bap

03-16-2004, 03:10 AM
sasuke wouldnt have to beat him when he opens his gates, he would just keep away and let lee kick his own ass. and if your talking about opening gates then why not take into the fact of sasuke opening his seal???

thompkinsbrian
03-16-2004, 03:14 AM
yes. sasauke was fighting at lee's speed without opening a single gate. and if he were to use the seal, then lee would be destroyed in a heart beat, lee has nothing on sasuke. if you think he does maybe you should rewatch the anime.


and some will say well he cant beat him with out seal, which is crap, but before you do i will sa what if lee didnt use gates.

03-16-2004, 03:17 AM
EXACTLY, i mean sasuke is already AHEAD of lee in the anime... what else is needed to be said and with that seal , he is basically untouchable by lee

jdsuave2003
03-16-2004, 03:59 AM
ok I think thas hunanomous fellas.....subject DECIDED: Sasuke OVER Lee....NEXT POLL PLZ 8)

thompkinsbrian
03-16-2004, 04:56 AM
i think you mean unanimous.

u·nan·i·mous
adj.
1.Sharing the same opinions or views; being in complete harmony or accord.
2.Based on or characterized by complete assent or agreement

and why did people even put this poll up. cause right now, lee cant do anyting

ChaosGenkaku
03-16-2004, 09:19 AM
it says that sasuka trained till his speed is as fast as Lee when Lee drops his weight, ot when Lee open his gates~ right?

thompkinsbrian
03-16-2004, 10:03 AM
like we said lee opens his gates and sasuke opens his seal.

ChaosGenkaku
03-16-2004, 10:38 AM
Well, been a total one sided fan for Rock Lee I would say that his opening of gates is faster than seal, but too bad there's no evidence on that 8)

However, Sasuke with opening of seal is some sort of madness, not stronger right?

thompkinsbrian
03-16-2004, 10:40 AM
No he is definitely stronger, otherwise what would the point of it be. and he is in control of himself somewhat. i guess you can compare it to kyuubi taking over naruto....only weaker

SynFcuk
03-16-2004, 10:49 AM
when sasuke's seal breaks.....

can anything say... run for you life?? lol i mean at THAT time when we first witnessed his super power.. he didn't have that rock lee speed when it first occured... and when it first opened.. he was fast already.. and so now.. he could be *ahem* god lol

not to mention..he'll make my itachi look like a ragdoll lol

thompkinsbrian
03-16-2004, 11:30 AM
who will make itachi look like a ragdoll? if you are talking about sasuke...you are WAY wrong

jdsuave2003
03-16-2004, 01:50 PM
Yeah, I wonder if they'll keep the seal on Sasuke's neck tho? I mean...kakashi already sealed it once, and when sakura asked about it he said "theres no need to worry anymore," or something like that... I hope they do cuz yeah....i REALLY wanna see a fight betweena kyuubi controlled naruto and a curse seal controlled sasuke :twisted:

SynFcuk
03-16-2004, 01:52 PM
who will make itachi look like a ragdoll? if you are talking about sasuke...you are WAY wrong

no actually i'm comparing sasuke (w/ broken seal) with itachi

i wouldn't know because i don't read the manga buddy

jdsuave2003
03-16-2004, 02:14 PM
no im not spoilin or anything...or askin for it for that matter....im hopin those who actually know will keep it to themselves...im just speculatin :D

ChaosGenkaku
03-16-2004, 03:07 PM
Well, it's common sense that just the curse seal alone will not be able to whack the hell out of itachi~

timeformydeath
03-16-2004, 03:18 PM
While Sasuke will easily beat Lee now, Lee will open all 8 gates eventually
and I read from the 1st of the 4 sounds of Orochimaru that the seal makes you 10x stronger so Sasuke 10x and I remember Lee can become as strong as Hokage supposedly so Sasuke can beat Lee if he can beat the dead Hokage 4th and Itachie can easily beat almost anyone(not sure because they have 8+ S-class missing-nins in their group and each one is supposed be he Kage lvl, S-class enemies are supposed to only be beaten by one of the kages. Right now Sasuke will probably beat Lee, but later who knows its likely Sasuke will be strong and I doubt if he will ever kill Itachi even if its possible.
Lee before >>> Sasuke before,
Lee now <<< Sasuke now,
Lee later (>?<) Sasuke later

jdsuave2003
03-16-2004, 03:43 PM
Heh, you know thats gonna have to be a badass fight when it does eventually come (Sasuke v Itatchi)....I think it'll probably consume at least 3 episodes all in of itself :roll:

nawar
03-16-2004, 04:13 PM
well i just saw the sasuke vs. orochimaru fight, and it looked like orochimaru did actualy use some highlevel speed and sasuke put up a pretty good fight before his training, so with his sharingan i think lee would be kicked to a pulp with or without his gates, so eventhough I like lee more than sasuke i do have to answer the poll correctly and honest so i think sasuke would beat LEE

Cenance
03-16-2004, 04:17 PM
You're ptobably right there... He did detect Oro's movements, but Oro could kill Sasuke in a second if he wanted to.. I've also heard that even Orochimaru is afraid for Itachi. That should say it all really.... I mean, if he is stronger then Oro, then he is one to be feared :?

jdsuave2003
03-16-2004, 04:46 PM
yeah I'd have to agree there, sasuke's big flame dragon of doom or whatever didnt even faze oro one bit, and as far as speed in that fight....lee could have easily matched the speed and surpassed...i mean, lets give it to the guy...hes damn fast.

Cenance
03-16-2004, 04:56 PM
I agree. Lee.... I think he has talent, when he can open the gates I mean. And about Oro, you're right, he didn't even take damage of that fire..

03-16-2004, 05:40 PM
still no matt what , i think that itachi would own the shit out of sasuke, he is the better half.

Cenance
03-16-2004, 07:14 PM
U don't know that... If Sasuke trains a lot,,.... MAYBE.. I bet my ass on that in 3 years, everything stops with a match between Sasuke and Itachi, so you can just reallize how it ends

03-16-2004, 07:51 PM
that is assuming of course taht Itachi doenst get any stronger or even weaken n those three years? do you honestly think he is just going to sit on his ass and do nothign?

Lixie
03-17-2004, 01:06 AM
Hmm kinda off topic there, you guys... it's LEE and Sasuke.

LOL anyways. I say Lee... he would've pwned Sasuke's ass if Gai (or the turtle, whatever) didn't jump in. Of course, Sasuke could "train", but at their present skill levels--overlooking Lee's condition--Lee could take Sasuke out.

jdsuave2003
03-17-2004, 02:40 AM
ok now youre just flat out lying lixie.. :? At current levels, Sasuke would easily take out Lee (yes, barring his condition) if nothing else for the fact that sasuke has been training like hell pretty much since he fought lee the first time....heck he was stronger at the end of the survival training than he was when it started...not to mention that he got to train while lee was couped up in a hospital bed :?

thompkinsbrian
03-17-2004, 03:04 AM
whoever said it is common sence that the cursed seal can whck itachi, you have no grounds for this assumption. you havent even seen him fight. and if you were to read the manga then you might have some opinion, but until then dont just be like oh no doubt sasuke will beat him.


and i agree about that sasuke when he fights gaara is stronger then Lee, and sasuke while lee is fcuked up will continue to train to get better then him. and an average hardworking guy cant catch up to a hard working genius

03-17-2004, 03:22 AM
yep the people who made the itachi comment obviously dont know what itachi can do..... that seal wont be able to prevent "that" move. anyways, yes hard work will surpass but a hard working genius will surpass a hard working norm. as you said brian. Lee is outclassed

nawar
03-17-2004, 11:31 AM
well, lee's only disadvantage over sasuke is propably the fact that sasuke can use nin and genjutsu, at taijutsu lee would probably kick sasukes butt since lees body is far better trained for the speed and strength but a fight between them wouldnt block out the use of jutsus, thats in my opinion also a great deal if they fight,

gaara was a defending type, sasuke definatly isnt!!!!!!! :)

Cenance
03-17-2004, 11:44 AM
Sasuke wouldn't take on Kakashi with that seal.. And when he can't take on Kakashi, he can't take on Oro.. And since Oro is afraid of Itachi, which then are obviously stronger then him, Sasuke can't kill Itachi...

Itachi>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sasuke (that's my conclusion]

jdsuave2003
03-17-2004, 02:57 PM
Hmmm, id say thats a fairly reasonable conclusion...only one problem man....this post...its uhh...about sasuke...and uh...Lee....not Itatchi....i'll say it one more time...not Itatchi...com baby three times for emphasis Not Itatchi.... :x

...And I think we've pretty much killed this one guys...its the same argument over and over...lee's speed owns....but sasuke's working hard as hell so sasuke wins at this point...can we move on??? :?

nawar
03-17-2004, 03:24 PM
but sasuke can kick lees butt :x thats not very NICE i dont like that, i think its a very insulting thing to do :cry:

ChaosGenkaku
03-17-2004, 03:49 PM
but sasuke can kick lees butt :x thats not very NICE i dont like that, i think its a very insulting thing to do :cry:
Yes indeed. AND Lee is not an average hardworking person by all means~ He is the most hardworking person you could find... Someday all the dropouts will kick the butt of genius! :D

And about Itachi part... Yes he's damn strong due to his jutsu, but the only one who could FACE him will still be sasuke, so we could expect them to face each other one day LOLz

itach1
03-20-2004, 05:52 AM
I think Gai could face Itachi to some degree *ahem* ^_-

thompkinsbrian
03-20-2004, 07:15 AM
actually you are right. Gai is the only person that has a method to fight the sharigan. And i take back my vote for sasuke after what i just read in the manga :shock: :shock:

DarkRage
03-21-2004, 03:12 AM
All of you seem to be overlooking the fact that Sasuke can not maintain that high level of speed. Lee in the anime says that it took him years to obtain that speed but Sasuke obtained it in only a month. But the next thing he says it..."But it looks like you consume a lot of stamina to maintain that speed." Sasuke is only as fast as lee without his weights. Even if Sasuke used his sharingan and his curse seal...he would not be able to keep up with lee when he opened his gates. Sasuke may be able to predict Lee's movement's but in the end i think Lee would win out. For those that read the manga... our adorable Rock Lee will return and we will see him fight again.

03-21-2004, 03:31 AM
OMFG, just kill this arguement.. this is old, ok let me put it like this, Lee with his gaates can only do so much before HE KICKS HIS OWNN ASS, Sasuke gains about 10x his normal strength with that seal W/O ANY losses, if you do the math that is about jounin strength in the anime right now.... now go later on and well you get the point...

itach1
03-21-2004, 03:44 AM
You just proved the point when you said "Jounin Strength." Although they haven't said that, even if it was true, Kakashi states when you open the gates you're temporarily stronger then Hokage. Hokage > Jounin

03-21-2004, 04:18 AM
... damn you are stupid... he cant open all htis gates and EVEN if he did he would DIE in the process...

itach1
03-21-2004, 04:23 AM
lol I'm stupid? don't cry because you're wrong. It doesn't matter if he dies, the point is he would beat Sasuke. And everyone is always supposed to "die" using this and that technique, but they always end up living in the Naruto world.

DarkRage
03-21-2004, 04:48 AM
Desecration you have it all wrong. The level 2 seal gives the user 10x normal strength. Also, it does have drawbacks...it takes a lot of chakra to maintain. The proof is in chapter 190. Combine that with the fact that Sasuke would have to use a lot of chakra to maintain his speed and he wont last long. Lee would win in any extended fight. 8)

timeformydeath
03-21-2004, 05:54 AM
As again Lee has to be the one of the best and although their speeds are the same Lee has more strength and stamina and I'm guessing the max seal length is short otherwise all 4 sounds wouldn't have lost half? of the charka in a 4 vs 2 j

thompkinsbrian
03-21-2004, 09:43 AM
well just so everyone understands this. currently in the anime Lee doesnt stand a chance against sasuke. and if you change something then someone else will change somehting right behind that. you cant put any real arguments about the manga cause guess what this is the anime discussion.

DarkRage
03-21-2004, 01:14 PM
You miss my point. Des said that seal lvl 1 gave Sasuke 10x his strength. This is incorrect. If Lee was to be healed he could beat Sasuke in his current condition in the anime.

thompkinsbrian
03-21-2004, 01:54 PM
if sdasauke was ten years older Lee couldnt beat him in that condition if Lee was at the level he is now healed was they way he is now.


i can say stuff like that all day

ChaosGenkaku
03-21-2004, 02:35 PM
if sdasauke was ten years older Lee couldnt beat him in that condition if Lee was at the level he is now healed was they way he is now.


i can say stuff like that all day
A sad things to those who supported Lee...
thompkinsbrian will just counter you with whatever reasons he could get to prove that the sissy is better... :lol:

Coolest Hokage Al
03-21-2004, 09:02 PM
If lee were me
If sasuke copy my techinque then I will kill him because I don't like someone copy my thing.

Sasuke won't copy all of Lee's techinques because of stamina and Lee's techinques are very dangerous to train. Lee's train is suiting Lee because he used to his dangerous train then sasuke.

sasuke won't open gate or anything or use louts or anthing... it is impossible for sasuke to use Lee's techinques but sasuke only can copy Lee's physically training like run fast, lift some heavy object, etc.

ChaosGenkaku
03-21-2004, 11:18 PM
Sasuke can copy, but his muscle will break if he use them :lol:

thompkinsbrian
03-22-2004, 01:38 AM
no i dont like sasuke, but right now he is better then Lee. maybe later on lee will be better :wink:

DarkFoxNaruto
03-22-2004, 02:26 AM
I dont care what anyone says...Lee would win, every time, I mean Lee is just awesome....Lee would even win when he's in his cast, so there...and also he's sexy....like Kakashi....but thats another story...

Coolest Hokage Al
03-23-2004, 03:26 PM
Sasuke can copy, but his muscle will break if he use them :lol:

I agreed... I wish he do that and he will learn his lesson to not copy other people and he can't use jutsu anymore. :twisted:

Tsukasa-San
03-23-2004, 03:48 PM
I'd have to go for Sasuke on this one. one, he's stronger and can use ninjutsus and genjutsus, two he has the shingaran.

Jiraiya_sama
03-23-2004, 09:59 PM
Lee has the same spirit as naruto, he doesn't give up. If sasuke gets too scared, he runs away. Therefore, Lee wins.

lordblazer
03-23-2004, 11:55 PM
yeah, most definitly sasuke...he's just too powerful, he's got the speed, techniques, and sharingan. He knows how to use kakashis power and as time goes own he will only get stronger, while lee doesn't have as much room to grow

your an idiot to think power is everything pluis rock lee is more skilled trained harder and is more conditioned and has enough speed and stamina to keep sasuke on his feet and by then sasuke will be tired of keeping up with lee and thats when lee would strike.I"m sorry but Rock Lee will own sasuke anyday.

DarkFoxNaruto
03-24-2004, 12:40 AM
thank you, rock lee is supre "hold in the word he was thinking of"....Sugoinee....not sexy

itach1
03-24-2004, 01:08 AM
lol..Sasuke's stamina sucks. He ran around Gaara once and hit him with his knee, but was already panting like a dog as Lee pointed out.

Jiraiya_sama
03-24-2004, 01:18 AM
lol..Sasuke's stamina sucks. He ran around Gaara once and hit him with his knee, but was already panting like a dog as Lee pointed out.

Sasuke is just a kid who was forced into an avenge like situation and honestly is not very special other than the fact that, well, there is nothing special about him :lol:

DarkFoxNaruto
03-24-2004, 01:54 AM
Cept for the sharingan...but thats nothing, nothing at all...and the cursed seal

Cenance
03-24-2004, 05:21 PM
Nothing special about Sasuke? Kakashi was really surprised when he saw that Sasuke could use Phoehnix Flame in such a young age. He is also number one rookie, and there us a reason for it. He survived the cursed seal, and only 10 percent survives. The cursed seal withdrew in the fight with Yoroi, and you could see that all the pupils were surprised!

He is special!

Lixie
03-24-2004, 05:39 PM
Yes... he's a special, special boy! :twisted:

Anyway Lee vs. Sasuke: probably tie.

Coolest Hokage Al
03-24-2004, 05:48 PM
he is not only the one special in the naruto's world :P

he able to use that special jutsu because he pratices so hard but not same lee... and makes no friend ( most of all boy are his emeny).

Lixie
03-24-2004, 05:52 PM
Beeecause most the girls in Konoha like him, so the boys are jealous.

lordblazer
03-24-2004, 08:16 PM
lol..Sasuke's stamina sucks. He ran around Gaara once and hit him with his knee, but was already panting like a dog as Lee pointed out.

Sasuke is just a kid who was forced into an avenge like situation and honestly is not very special other than the fact that, well, there is nothing special about him :lol:

nmos elike a lazy bum who doesnt wanna conditionhimself.ANd thats really easy to do.I have more stamina htan that fool i can run 30 miles and not get fatique.I'm an athelete so dont say i cant cuz i can.I work hard and conditioned myself.Sasuke is a ninja heck im not even gonna do an athletic sport as my way of life but sasuke is a ninja nad thats his way of life thus he needs to codition himself or he is gonna die.

edit-us boys dont get jealious heck we will still hang iwth the guy but we won't backstab and call him a slut like oyu girls do when all the guys think this one chick in the school is hot.

DarkFoxNaruto
03-24-2004, 11:10 PM
but are we forgetting what Lee has done, I mean look at his past life, all he did was train train train, I mean sure im sure Sasuke does too, but I mean, he's cocky in a way about it, not as much as neji, but still cocky. Lee Trains every day, ___ x 100 somthings, varying from 600 kicks and not doing the last, so 500 punches. You're theroy doesn't hold up well about training in that sence, cause Lee has trained about 5 years more than sauske has, Kid at like the begining of his life, till now, and extra time, till like im sure late late at night....If it was training that won, Lee would kick Sasukes ass

Cenance
03-25-2004, 05:07 AM
MAybe but unfortunatly thats not what counts :D

nawar
03-25-2004, 04:28 PM
well sasuke has no defence againts the (secondary)lotus, unlike dosu and gaara

Coolest Hokage Al
03-25-2004, 05:44 PM
no sasuke has no chance to against guy who has thick brows :twisted:

>> lixie yeah thats true...

Rooney
04-14-2004, 04:31 PM
Definately Sasuke!

Rock Lee's fast and has good stamina - but faced with a genius of the Uchiha clan...he'd lose (although I'd say it'd probably be pretty close)

Anbu Dr J
04-14-2004, 05:02 PM
DUDE sasuke was get OWNED...even b4 the the chuunin exam lee owned him like he was nothing AND sasuke was using the sharingan...and the sharingan's worst enemy is a taijutsu user...so lee would own...

WildWolfay
04-14-2004, 10:48 PM
Sasuke would get owned....

Unless he pulled out some more uber-leet-bs and got some major chackra boost...

Marvdogg
05-01-2004, 08:47 PM
did u watch the episodes where lee and Gai sensei were surprised about saske's improved speed and then even gaara was shocked

Marvdogg
05-01-2004, 08:48 PM
whats up with that 5th hokage picture? doesnt really make sense but whatever

Blue_Raine
05-01-2004, 09:05 PM
dont' feel like reading, but one guy drew a very complicated chart, and i forgot his name. give him credit for this.

sasuke > rock lee with weights
sasuke = rock lee without weights
sasuke <<<<< rock lee without weights and open gates

by this highly..ahem... evolved chart, we can come to the conclusion that rock lee would probably beat sasuke, unless sasuke gets some genjutsu move that allows him to turn invisible, but that would be pointless, now would it?

Resak
05-01-2004, 09:45 PM
Yep! Lee > Sasuke generally, in my opinion. Sasuke has some nifty moves, but no real diversity. Lee can zip around him, punching him up, then drop his weights and punch him up even more! Then open his chakra gates and well... Yeah.

Sasuke may be skilled, but he just isn't a match for Lee's multi-methods of attack. >:D

nawar
05-03-2004, 03:41 AM
doubt it, both lee and sasuke are offensive guys, ( they lack defense )
and since they are equal in speed, it will be theyr stamina that will make the difrence and lee has better stamina, while sasuke has his sharingan and ninjutsu, i think that sasuke would win!!!!!!!!!!!!!, unless lee somehow gets sasuke in the lotus (secondary)

lordblazer
05-03-2004, 11:55 AM
dude im sorry that doesnt make sense jsut having a charigan doesn't mean you can win a fight lol.HEck lee nevver showed sasuke any vital moves.so the first and secondary lotcus will take sasuke by surprise.Lee is just too conditioned to lose to sasuke.lmao look at the poll this whole forum is split in half literally.

nawar
05-03-2004, 01:36 PM
lee understands the power of the sharingan, IT READS MOVES, in other words by your movement sasuke can predict what your going to do, and speed was lees only advantage, since sasuke reached that speed as well, the sharingan gives him a pretty neat advantage, in onther words, sasukes reaction time is way better than that of lee

Blue_Raine
05-03-2004, 08:41 PM
lee understands the power of the sharingan, IT READS MOVES, in other words by your movement sasuke can predict what your going to do, and speed was lees only advantage, since sasuke reached that speed as well, the sharingan gives him a pretty neat advantage, in onther words, sasukes reaction time is way better than that of lee

reaction time and speed are different...you can know it's coming at you, but can ur body move fast enough to block it. read the chart....read it.... 8)

lordblazer
05-04-2004, 08:25 PM
wowo oyu really odnt read teh manga uh harddroom?Lee comes back dude.

narutofanboy
05-04-2004, 09:18 PM
ya um Lee iS SUper hard Core and ya he does get better cuz of cough surgery cough...only spoiler i will give cuz um ready mentioned before...but if you read the manga..you kno the truth and this argument is stupid cuz i read the manga and LEE IS SUPER KOOL!!! and WOULD KIK SASUKE'aSS!! ALERT: dont read the following if you dont want to BE SPOILDED!! DONT READ IT IF YOU DONT WANT TO READ SPOILER!! um you find out later that lee is a natural at DRUNKEN BOXing FIghtin technique thingy... and if he uses this technique it is very hard even for sharingan to predict moves because the moves are so random... ENd of DISCUASSION BIATCH!!![/b]

narutofanboy
05-05-2004, 01:05 AM
ya um lee doesnt die wat have YOu been Smokin??? o ya i also warned ppl not to read if they dont want to be spoiled

nawar
05-05-2004, 07:20 AM
okay, hardoom im being VERY annoyed because of you PLEASE get a normal picture and PLEASE DONT READ SPOILERS, and they are allowed as long as you warn about them, so please SHUT THE FCUK UP

Ero-Sennin
05-05-2004, 01:16 PM
Sorry, I would definitly have to go with Lee. If not for Lee losing Sasuke would have no reason to train that hard in taijutsu and learn the Chidori. Also, Lee is much more experienced with hand to hand combat, ya know, since thats ALL he does.. AND the sharingan cant see Lee's taijutsu.

harddoom
05-05-2004, 09:57 PM
Taijutsu kills him! its worthless kinjutsu. IT SAYS CLEARLY NO SPOILERS, NOT MARK YOUR SPOILERS WITH FUNNY ASTERISKS AND PLACE THEM EVERYHWERE

nawar
05-05-2004, 10:02 PM
well then simply dont read if people ignore those rules, bytheway you seem to read the manga, as long as people dont state that it happened in the manga, than dont give the rest the reason to think that it did, try to think about that one

Lukasz
05-06-2004, 06:47 PM
Spoilers should be written like there are in Narutomania forum :D where to go with that idea??

harddoom
05-07-2004, 05:32 PM
how are they written there

Marvdogg
08-07-2004, 04:24 PM
id say rock lee rite now..even if he doesnt open up his gates hed still woop yea narutomania forums do rock...oh ya and these forums dun even have a spoiler..and they deleted 20 of my posts. :?

Mr. SmartyPants
08-07-2004, 04:55 PM
GO LEE!

Raistlin
08-07-2004, 05:24 PM
They're like this , but black because thats the bg
THIS IS A HUGE SPOILER HAHAHA (Wait, I haven't read the manga..
Highlight to read.
Or, I can't remember do they have a button you click on which shows spoiler afterwards?

Kokoro
08-12-2004, 07:42 PM
Konoha's Beautiful Blue Beast ROCK LEE!! Of couse, right know Sasuke only has Chidori, and yes it's powerful, but Lee could avoid it. Plus he could open like 3 celestial gates (so he won't injure himself) and kick some serios Uchiha ass!!

skyz69
08-12-2004, 09:41 PM
unfortunately, i can so see sasuke winning, cos lee will probably be impulsive and use lotus on sasuke... beating him all up.... then be happy... then be weakened because of the lotus...

and find out that he beat up a kawarimi log.

at which point sasuke will kill lee.

sigh....

BlueKyroDragon
08-13-2004, 01:18 AM
you do make a very good point, both of them are tough and i think by the end both of em would be pretty damn worn out

sakura711
08-14-2004, 04:12 AM
way to go for sasuke-kun!

Kaguya Kimimaro
08-14-2004, 05:47 AM
I say sasuke only because he has the Sharingan and a Uchiha body to go with it.

Bflip
08-14-2004, 06:37 AM
Lee all the way!

*points to avatar*

Wee Git
08-15-2004, 10:59 AM
damn some of you guys seem to add your own imagination to the anime....Sasuke would win...he is one of the main characters plus e has far more jutsu a high level speed...plus Rock lee has no genjutsu ...hand to hand is not all by any means.....damn this is just an anime...whats with the bias towards favorite characters....and you only get hokage level for opening the death gate...which means you would die over it....he didn't have that level against Gaara...cause Hokage power level would have smashed through the gourd and kill him...

Bflip
08-15-2004, 11:07 AM
After re-reading the last post I understand it now.

momiji-san
08-15-2004, 05:46 PM
I soooo like Rock Lee better than Sasuke! I mean Sasuke got his ass kicked by Lee(no offense Sasuke fans).

Lukasz
08-15-2004, 05:49 PM
yep. lee ROCKS. sasuke may be faster than before and he knows chidori but sasuke doesnt have staminna to fight.
but
if sasuke uses seal lee doesnt have chance, even after openning 5 gates. i believe that sasuke was stronger than naruto fighting neji then. :)

naraku_99
08-15-2004, 11:39 PM
yea i would go for lee with his gates open cause sasuke is only an amature with his sharingan could not keep up and he has no sand to protect him from the lotus

Yondaime
08-16-2004, 09:29 AM
yea i think that any other genin wouldve died had they been hit by primary or secondary lotus buyt gaara was lucky that lee stopped when he was doing the primary lotus and he had his gourd turn into sand for the secondary lotus. if lee uses any of those 2 lotuses on sasuke sasuke would be finished

firedrake6001
08-16-2004, 02:21 PM
Ya Lee is super fast and could probably dodge chidori. Lee has the lotus and he can open gates and Sasuke has chidori and sharingan. Back when sasuke and Naruto were fighting Haku it took Sasuke a while to be able to track Haku's movements. By the time Sasuke could track Lee's movements he would be dead.

Zanza
08-16-2004, 02:34 PM
I think Sasuke would win because he would pull all his sharigan shit

firedrake6001
08-16-2004, 02:45 PM
Still Lee is too fast for his sharingan.

Yondaime
08-16-2004, 04:31 PM
well it took sasuke some time to track hakus movements because he didnt have the sharingan. as soon as he got the sharingan he could see al the movements and started blocking al the needles so he would be able to see lees speed especially if he saw it before the chuunin exam and he got a whole load stronger after it so he can definitely see lees movements and can probably react to them since he is almost at lees speed.
but i still think lee could win because he is still faster and he will keep improving his taijutsu (if tsunade heals him) and be able to beat sasuke. i dont think chidori will get lee since itachi brushed it away so easily then lee can probably dodge it or maybe brush it away aswell

kwint
08-17-2004, 02:55 AM
If you look at the stats, aside from what the anime would do, Rock Lee would win. When he does Secondary Lotus, he disappears pretty much. I don't think sharingan can keep up with that. I don't think anybody would survive that attack. And even if lee had to use 5 gates, sasuke couldn't catch him even if he wanted to do chidori.

I honestly think lee has more strength that sasuke because of his speed. When you double the speed of a hit, it quadruples the impact. Sasuke wasn't able to see lee's speed before, what makes you think he can see them now? Sasuke copied all of lee's taijutsu, but only what hes seen. So if lee comes up with newer taijutsu, sasuke will be at a disadvantage.

Bflip
08-17-2004, 07:13 AM
When you double the speed of a hit, it quadruples the impact.

True. E=MC^2.

Energy = Mass X Velocity squared.

Double the velocity quadruples the power because 2^2=4.

Just explaining some physics...

Wee Git
08-17-2004, 07:36 AM
After re-reading the last post I understand it now.

Hahah the funny thing is I did engligh lit in university but for some reason when typing over the net my punctuation and spelling becomes atrocious....probably my keyboard or something

Bflip
08-17-2004, 09:30 AM
I'm still sticking with Lee though.

And Rock Lee and Sausuke did fight. Sausuke got his ass saved by a turtle who stopped Lee from using his Lotus.

firedrake6001
08-17-2004, 10:28 AM
Ya Lee all the way.

kwint
08-18-2004, 09:37 PM
Its settled, Lee owns.

firedrake6001
08-19-2004, 02:20 PM
Let it be said once and for all. Lee owns Sasuke.

Mitty
08-19-2004, 03:22 PM
Well Sasuke has chidori, and all his other techniques. Once he learns Mangekkou sharingan, he can like beat anyone.

NarutoNineTails
08-19-2004, 04:07 PM
How do you know if Sasuke can learn Tsukuyomi? Even if he can at a later point, who knows how long it will take him? Sasuke doesn't stand a chance, if Lee opens his gates.

Mitty
08-19-2004, 04:13 PM
Yeah, as of now. I'm just saying that I think he has a higher potential because he can do ninjutsu, unlike Lee. Thats one of the main things you need to know in battle. While Lee can beat other Gennins with hand to hand, idk if he can go much further with higher ranked people.

NarutoNineTails
08-19-2004, 04:17 PM
Well we have a very good example of how good a ninja can get without much Ninjutsu...Gai. Gai is equal to Kakashi and imo can whoop Kakashi's ass in a "life or death" match if they ever fight this way.

Yondaime
08-19-2004, 09:07 PM
well if sasuke does learn magnekyou sharingan he can beat lee... but this thread is about now... and lee can also concentrate on the feet or his opponent like gai does because lee is the same as gai

noelsque
08-22-2004, 02:08 AM
i think lee has still the advantage. sasuke could not predict taijutsu. even if he is as fast as lee all he could do is to block or evade it as it comes. lee has brains too so he'll think of some cool moves of taijutsu. stamina wise sasuke will be at disadvantage. to be as fast as lee, he must consume a lot of stamina to maintain it. but lee it that speed is only natural him. a result of weight training.