View Full Version : Shurikens or kunais
Liquid-Fusion
09-09-2004, 11:30 PM
i would chose a kunia becuse they look cooler and seem a lot better
Anbu Dr J
09-09-2004, 11:45 PM
and yes we DO have a weapons thread...i think hold on ill go find it
Bflip
09-10-2004, 12:05 AM
I've seen a couple, but not for a long while. Anyways, I chose Shurikens because they 1) Sound cooler, 2) Are better known, and 3) Are more stylish.
Raistlin
09-10-2004, 12:05 AM
Kunai, it's more unique, and can be a hand to hand weapon.
Bflip
09-10-2004, 12:06 AM
Kunai, it's more unique, and can be a hand to hand weapon.
I don't see how a dagger with a hole is more unique than a shuriken... And although kunais are way more efficent in hand to hand combat, shurikens can also be used. (Just cut people with it, geez.)
Raistlin
09-10-2004, 12:14 AM
Isn't shuriken a throwing star? You'd cut yourself if you applied pressure to another person.
Throwing stars = common
I'd never HEARD of Kunai b4 naruto.
Bflip
09-10-2004, 12:21 AM
More common does not mean less unique, and less common does not mean more unique.
naraku_99
09-10-2004, 12:39 AM
who cares i like them both
Liquid-Fusion
09-10-2004, 01:23 AM
ya but shurikans hav a bad aim rashio and kunia hav a better sharpness to it and can used both as a throwing weapon and a close combat and anbu dr j ya sry i didnt know
Aurora Dark
09-10-2004, 02:08 AM
I don't think this is the same exact topic, but I found this one:
http://forum.narutochaos.com/viewtopic.php?t=1814
hmm... can't decide if it counts as being the same thing or not. I'll let the mods decide :P
Ducko
09-10-2004, 04:46 AM
Kunai!!!
How can everyone who watches Naruto not love the Kunai???
It's basically the same as the Ninja Star... but like a little more usefull... like when it's hand to hand combat...
QUOTE FROM THE AMV: **NINJA OF THE NIGHT**
"WITH MY CHINESE NINJA STAR, I WILL PICK THE LOCK... AND STEAL YOUR CAR!"
Jasper
09-10-2004, 05:43 AM
the kunai is just a throwing knife in real life ,trust me i looked around, now a shuriken thats something, they come in different design's and theres different types 8-points,4-points,six-points and the list goes on, so i chose shuriken.
narutoIZZAbest
09-10-2004, 05:53 AM
Yea thats what I would choose too.Anyway you can use it with justus.I have never seen a kunai used in a justu.
dRizzy
09-10-2004, 07:10 AM
never seen a kunai in jutsu? the hokage throws kunai on fire and kunai has been used in kagebunshin.
Also I like the shuriken best because it seems more powerful and better than kunai. But you cant keep many shurikens in your belt though...
Anbu Neji
09-10-2004, 08:13 AM
I choose the Kunai because it is the most used and most versatile weapon in the show. It can cut, be thrown, have explosive notes attached, used in traps, hiden within Jutsu's. Its endless and thats why I think Kunai's are widid kool.
MansBasic
09-10-2004, 08:39 AM
kunai..because it can be used for both throwing and to cut someones penis :S
Ducko
09-10-2004, 08:50 AM
kunai..because it can be used for both throwing and to cut someones penis :SWTF...
I'm sure the Shuriken can cut someone's penis...
MansBasic
09-10-2004, 10:44 AM
yeah, i just dont rememberd the word "throat"
Liquid-Fusion
09-10-2004, 11:26 AM
Yea thats what I would choose too.Anyway you can use it with justus.I have never seen a kunai used in a justu.
whene naruto was fighting gaara when you used a thousand years of pain he combined a knia with an exslposive note
Named
09-10-2004, 12:40 PM
Also I like the shuriken best because it seems more powerful and better than kunai. But you cant keep many shurikens in your belt though...
Incorrect. The shuriken may be nicer to look at, but it's less practical and the design/method of use makes it less accurate and 'powerful'.
And as someone else mentioned, it can't be used in melee combat.
I prefer kunais, because in a purely combat sense- they ARE better.
Yondaime
09-10-2004, 06:10 PM
well i think kunai are stronger.. since they look more powerful and are bigger... and as lots of people have mentioned u can use a kunai in taijutsu whereas if u try to do it with a shuriken you will get hurt.
lol i bought myself a shuriken from my holiday in bulgaria heh bout £3
Raistlin
09-10-2004, 09:07 PM
Nice, waah I want one
narutoIZZAbest
09-10-2004, 09:15 PM
Yea thats what I would choose too.Anyway you can use it with justus.I have never seen a kunai used in a justu.
whene naruto was fighting gaara when you used a thousand years of pain he combined a knia with an exslposive note
Hmm well I only watched up to episode 76 so I'm just starting the fight.
I probably just forgot about that...
Wish I had DSL.... :cry:
Raistlin
09-10-2004, 09:28 PM
Thats sad, get DAP, make em all queued up and download the rest overnight..
Liquid-Fusion
09-10-2004, 09:58 PM
bear share works great
narutoIZZAbest
09-10-2004, 10:48 PM
Thats sad, get DAP, make em all queued up and download the rest overnight..
ano....where do u download this....
do u have the link?
Oh and let's stop spamming before Lixie gets mad. :wink:
kombatan
09-11-2004, 12:06 AM
well,,,,,
I have a kunai and its more practical than shuriken. You can learn it a lot easier than shuriken. I use my kunai like a combat knife besides throwing it to trees in our compound. Shuriken "whirls" around and usually has a curved motion but kunais are more direct.
There's a big risk having a shuriken in melee combat..
narutoIZZAbest
09-11-2004, 12:17 AM
There's such a thing as a kunai in real life??!
:?
Aurora Dark
09-11-2004, 12:28 AM
There's such a thing as a kunai in real life??!
:?
Kunai and shuriken are real weapons, as far as I know...
btw:
I love the shuriken. I know they're not as practical, but I believe that if you know how to use them, they've got some style. I've always liked variations of throwing stars, though.
PS: This is gonna sound weird, but...
I think it'd be a good idea to fix the spelling errors in the poll/thread title. It's kinda strange after a while.. :?
narutoIZZAbest
09-11-2004, 12:33 AM
Real weapons....
Hmm never thought that someone would actually own one though..
yay someone else finally put shuriken.It seems like everyone is just picking kunai.
<It doesnt seem like it,they are.>
Liquid-Fusion
09-11-2004, 01:18 AM
i think kunias would be more effective on traps and ya there real i bought some
narutoIZZAbest
09-11-2004, 01:29 AM
With a real blade...
Also how are they effective in traps?
What kind of traps?
reQunix
09-11-2004, 01:59 AM
In the special episode, Search for the Crimson Four-leaf Clover, they have traps that shoot kunai...
I pick kunai becasue of their versatility (as everyone else). I know there are many variations on shuriken, but there's one or two of the kunai as well, e.g. Kabuto uses the curved kunai which is intended more for hand-to-hand combat. The kunai are intended to be versatile, that's why it has the ring on. Attaching notes or strings, or bells makes it the weapon for a thinking ninja, imo.
However, let's not forget, that Sasuke showed us that a ninja's arsenal complements itself. Remember how he used a shuriken and a kunai to pin the demon brother's chain?
In the end it's probably a personal preference. I'm sure a lot of people can find a way to use the one or the other in the same situation.
Liquid-Fusion
09-11-2004, 02:10 AM
exactly there is always a use for a kunia like when sakura tripeed her trap whe used a kunia becuse therer better handeled u hav a chance to get cut with a shuriken
kunai...they are melee and throwing weapons and they are soo cool looking...i need to get me some real kunais
narutoIZZAbest
09-11-2004, 02:31 AM
Well of course...cause they're in the shape of a knife...kinda...
Anyway even though shuriken aren't as good for traps they are more powerful combined with techniques...NOT TRAPS...
Mostly used by Sasuke lol...
DJ Jaime
09-11-2004, 02:51 AM
Umm... Kunais seem really cool and are better in hand to hand combat or maybe to make you seem cool..
But in a fight were the enemy is moving from side to side id prefer Shuriken, anyways... Kunais are way better than shurikens and they are cool :P
Liquid-Fusion
09-11-2004, 02:53 AM
there is a lot of problems that could happen when using a shuriken
DJ Jaime
09-11-2004, 02:54 AM
i know, thats why Kunais are better :twisted:
Aurora Dark
09-11-2004, 03:00 AM
I just realized why I like Shuriken more...
Kunais bore me. They are basically knives.. I like knives, but for them being a knife-type weapon anyway, I could just use a higher quality knife instead, for the same purpose. It's true that a kunai has a hole in it, to tie it up and toss it, etc... but certain knives have handles that could easily have ties around them.
so...
Kunais seem like boring knives to me. If I wanted a knife (which I do :P), I'd want a more elaborate one. -shrug-
Shurikens are cool... I think that if you know how to use them properly, they can inflict more damage (particularly if you can get a great spin going). Especially the really massive ones... (not sure if they're still called "shuriken" or not in that form, though)
narutoIZZAbest
09-11-2004, 03:02 AM
What are the problems?
There are more kinds of shuriken than kunai which means each has their own type of weakness.
Kunai's have weaknesses too.But actually its more on the ninja who uses it.A kunai isnt used well if it isn't used in the right way.
DJ Jaime
09-11-2004, 03:05 AM
I know, maybe Shurikens used in a proper way inflict more damage
than Kunais, and it all depends on the person who uses them,
but i think Kunais make you seem cool, do you remember that scene with Kakashi handeling two Kunais with his fingers? That was just cool.
Anyway, in all depends in the way they are used..
Liquid-Fusion
09-11-2004, 03:07 AM
well throwing a shurikan it can cut you being releaed and the slitest wind can throw them how by hitting the bottom ro top
Liquid-Fusion
09-11-2004, 03:09 AM
ya look at this its cool looking
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v433/jitsu/kakashi1.gif
that problem is that it doesn't look possible...
Aurora Dark
09-11-2004, 03:25 AM
People keep saying "a shuriken can cut you"...
If you know how to hold it and use it properly, that's quite unlikely to happen.
narutoIZZAbest
09-11-2004, 03:48 AM
I know, maybe Shurikens used in a proper way inflict more damage
than Kunais, and it all depends on the person who uses them,
but i think Kunais make you seem cool, do you remember that scene with Kakashi handeling two Kunais with his fingers? That was just cool.
Anyway, in all depends in the way they are used..
Yea but just because a kunai is "cool" that's not only reason that it is good.
People should have better reasons than things just being cool. :)
Liquid-Fusion
09-11-2004, 01:17 PM
ya if u look cloesly at them they cross
Named
09-11-2004, 04:38 PM
I just realized why I like Shuriken more...
Kunais bore me. They are basically knives.. I like knives, but for them being a knife-type weapon anyway, I could just use a higher quality knife instead, for the same purpose. It's true that a kunai has a hole in it, to tie it up and toss it, etc... but certain knives have handles that could easily have ties around them.
so...
Kunais seem like boring knives to me. If I wanted a knife (which I do :P), I'd want a more elaborate one. -shrug-
Shurikens are cool... I think that if you know how to use them properly, they can inflict more damage (particularly if you can get a great spin going). Especially the really massive ones... (not sure if they're still called "shuriken" or not in that form, though)
If you were in a battle situation, the last thing on your mind would be the style of your weapon.
"I hope it looks nice as it penetrates the skin of my enemy..."
A weapon is a weapon. They are instruments of death; practicality and efficiency is all that really matters.
They aren't supposed to look interesting, so whether or not the design of a kunai bores you, it is a superior weapon...
You can't do more damage with a shuriken, no matter your skill level. A shuriken and a kunai of equal mass, wielded by two ninjas of equal skill- the kunai will do more damage.
It's hardly fair to compare a kunai to a massive shuriken, of course the shuriken will do more damage. Force = mass x acceleration. (So we’ll just ignore that comment ;))
In a fair contest, kunais will always win.
It's VERY difficult to kill someone with a shuriken. They hurt, it’s extremely challenging to kill or even incapacitate an aggressor with this weapon. (Unless you pierce your opponent with around 20-30 of them)
How is that more damage than a throwing knife? Because of the design, shurikens can do little more than annoy. If I were to throw a kunai anywhere in your arm or shoulder, it’s highly probable you will no longer be able to operate that limb. Thigh, calf, knee- you can no longer use your leg. Shurikens can’t inflict that kind of damage, the penetration isn’t deep enough, nor is any slashing damage from a clever spin. As I’ve said- it will hurt, that’s about it.
Yea but just because a kunai is "cool" that's not only reason that it is good.
People should have better reasons than things just being cool.
Prior to this post I had already offered more reason than "They are cool"
However, fans of the shurikens have presented nothing more than this...
Can you explain why they are better, without resorting to "They look better" ?
That was quite a hypocritical thing to say... ;) :lol:
[I fixed the spelling errors in the title and poll, just for you, AD ;) (Maybe a little for Named... :lol:)]
Aurora Dark
09-11-2004, 05:47 PM
It's VERY difficult to kill someone with a shuriken. They hurt, it’s extremely challenging to kill or even incapacitate an aggressor with this weapon. (Unless you pierce your opponent with around 20-30 of them).
...
As I’ve said- it will hurt, that’s about it.
well, that's true...
but my intent wouldn't be to kill ;) (However, if you grind a shuriken into someone's neck [of course, you would hurt yourself by doing this, but not as badly], that'll get it done >_>)
My fighting strategy? Get them away from me, and to hopefully send them away. If they insist on staying, that's their choice, not mine.
Besides... shurikens would usually frighten people more, so the appearance -does- matter. I know most would find it silly, but I think fear is a powerful element in a fight.
Now if your opponent thinks he's invincible, of course, then you're out of luck. But the common enemy? You can intimidate him with simple measures. If you can make your enemy nervous, to some extent, your victory will come more easily.
Named
09-11-2004, 07:24 PM
Confidence inspires fear in the common enemy. Whatever your weapon is, extravagant in appearance or not, if you exhibit confidence in it's use, they will not mess with you lest they don't fear death or harm.
I speak from personal experience. I have scared off enemies from showing even my simple, small blade. So believe me, you don't need shurikens to scare off the less-than serious attackers. Those morons flee the minute you stand up for yourself.
My point- appearance does matter, but a shuriken would inspire no more fear than a kunai.
It's a weapon, the sight of it is enough. In that situation, the type of person who'd run away wouldn't stop to think "Was that a shuriken or a knife?" It's a shiny sharp object that they see! And that is what they run from.
If we're talking about a serious fight, your opponent wouldn't be any more set back from the sight of a shuriken. In fact they would probably understand it's less lethal than a knife.
Lost Prophet
05-24-2006, 05:41 PM
I would rather use a kunai due to its shape and style. It is a great weapon to use no matter the situation and can be used for multi purposes...
.Sask
05-24-2006, 05:53 PM
I'll choose a kunai since it looks really cool. My type just isn't throwing stars. Plus I like in the anime, how they throw the kunai, they have to jerk their arm really fast, the appearance of it is just soo wicked. For all I know of, a shiruken is astar shaped weapon, but I am most likely wrong, but I'll definitally stick with my viewpoint.
Lost Prophet
05-24-2006, 05:56 PM
I'll choose a kunai since it looks really cool. My type just isn't throwing stars. Plus I like in the anime, how they throw the kunai, they have to jerk their arm really fast, the appearance of it is just soo wicked. For all I know of, a shiruken is astar shaped weapon, but I am most likely wrong, but I'll definitally stick with my viewpoint.yes, a shuriken is usually star shaped, but can have 3 points, 4, 5, even six occasionally....plus, there are windmill shurikens! beautiful weapons.....
Mighty_Frog
05-24-2006, 06:15 PM
A kunai is at least ten times more useful than a shuriken, it can be used in jutsus, in seals(kakashi's evil supressor), as a projectile, and for hand to hand combat shuriken has only been used as a projectile attack as far as ive seen in naruto. Shuriken are also capable of inflicting much more damage to an opponent and can be used to immobilize the opponent like how kakashi made zabuza's arms useless. The only reason people underistimate the kunai is because it's not portrayed fully in the anime for example when sakura was fighting the sound guys to protect naruto and sasuke she tricked the guy with replication technique but got like five kunais thrown into her and then a couple hours later during the preliminary matches there was not even a wound on any part of her body, its a cartoon thats why.
TMM-Shinryu
05-24-2006, 06:44 PM
hmm...id want to be a master in shurikens...but more specifically...the windmill shuriken lol, that thing is such a monster
superkhanh0
05-24-2006, 07:47 PM
shadow shurikens look nice man 1st arc
KageNaruto
05-24-2006, 10:27 PM
if shuriken include fuuma shuriken (like mizuki's and sasuke uses it too)
i choose shuriken. but if its normal shuriken, i choose kunai. i like the sleek shape a lot better, plus you can use it as a knife as well
Fire_Fist
05-24-2006, 11:11 PM
i chosed kunai cause its lighter, easier to use, faster and maybe harder to dodge also can be used as a knife if ur lost in the forest :P
but still Shuriken has better tone to the ear and its cool too
they r both cool u should have added both to the poll
UndrDog
05-24-2006, 11:30 PM
I chose the Kunai Fundo as my weapon in my martial arts classes. And since they have more uses, and the fact that they can be used in combination with funo, I'm going to have to say Kunai.
Drunken_Master_Rock_Lee
05-25-2006, 01:34 AM
Hmm, a kunai i say, lol, this must be a really old therad, but kunai bein heavier it got the upper hand on the shuriken.
kunai because you can hold as knife and have knife fights and you can use it to put exploding tags and those string thingys and you can throw them :D
Kratos
05-25-2006, 01:39 AM
Kunai because it has more uses
first of all Kratos is bad ass, and kunai can actually kill someone, and has 101 uses
I chose kunai, cause they can be thrown like shuriken but used in a sword fight as a short knife, and its heavier but I doubt its that much slower, and just more versitile over all
The only advantage the shuriken have over the kunai, there smaller and more can be carried!
another advantage is that it has more surface area of blade which can probably had more possibitlity of damage, when you throw it that is..
Lost Prophet
05-25-2006, 04:52 PM
looks like kunai won...
CRtwenty
05-25-2006, 05:27 PM
Real kunais were actually blunt...
But the sharp Naruto kunais beat shuriken in so many ways... I mean we've seen them used to hold people up, as a ranged weapon, as a utility knife, as a hand to hand weapon...
What do shuriken do? Not all that. Though I do like those giant Fuuma shuriken.
and plus the hokage can replicate the shuriken, but i think he can do that with kunai too...
zoldic777
05-25-2006, 07:26 PM
hhhhhm,I like both though the shuriken is what i really like and the kunai is winning the poll
anyway,Please dont complain about me,I'm not gonna spam again,please,Or have you?
anyways,Kunais are better becoz there are more cool then shurikens
ArenaNinja
05-26-2006, 03:15 AM
I chose the Shuriken... It's big and awkward. Expect the unexpected >.<
i would chose a kunia becuse they look cooler and seem a lot better
definitly kunai :) it rocks
Lost Prophet
05-27-2006, 10:45 PM
thekunai are overhyped, although i like them better
Real kunais were actually blunt...
But the sharp Naruto kunais beat shuriken in so many ways... I mean we've seen them used to hold people up, as a ranged weapon, as a utility knife, as a hand to hand weapon...
What do shuriken do? Not all that. Though I do like those giant Fuuma shuriken.
That gaint fuuma shuriken was nice, I would chose that over that kunai, but I guess thats a whole new thread, Im sure cause there size most nin dont carry them but they probly can be used a 1000 different ways we have yet to see!
Lost Prophet
05-28-2006, 12:53 AM
Real kunais were actually blunt...
But the sharp Naruto kunais beat shuriken in so many ways... I mean we've seen them used to hold people up, as a ranged weapon, as a utility knife, as a hand to hand weapon...
What do shuriken do? Not all that. Though I do like those giant Fuuma shuriken.
That gaint fuuma shuriken was nice, I would chose that over that kunai, but I guess thats a whole new thread, Im sure cause there size most nin dont carry them but they probly can be used a 1000 different ways we have yet to see!but of course, strategically they can be used all sorts of ways
Actually they can, in the very 1st arc of the story when sauske thew it at zabuza and naruto hide in the shadow!
And you can put an exploding tag on them, there large enough and you can put alot of them on there!
Lost Prophet
05-28-2006, 02:15 AM
thats what I mean, no sarcasm there. you know how many ways they can be used? and what they can be usewd with?wires, rope, chakra, elements, etc.
you can also put stuff on shuriken.. and in my flashes i use shuriken alot more cause they look kooler. but Kunai are better
Narutoninpou
06-05-2006, 04:46 PM
I have Shuriken.
but i havent tried them jet..
KageNaruto
06-05-2006, 04:51 PM
Actually they can, in the very 1st arc of the story when sauske thew it at zabuza and naruto hide in the shadow!
And you can put an exploding tag on them, there large enough and you can put alot of them on there!
i dont think fuuma shuriken count in this conversation.....
also most of the time explosive tags are placed on kunai
CRtwenty
06-05-2006, 05:36 PM
That's cause you really can't wrap the explosive tag around a shuriken.
Megamoppy
06-08-2006, 05:20 PM
Depends on how theyre used (i mean look at the bit in the get sasuke series), i prefer kunais but its a 50/50 contest (i mean they both have sharp pointy bits).
Definitly Kunai, look cooler :o)
and way more useful
Gremilcar
06-08-2006, 05:58 PM
Well i had real Kunai and a real Shurikens so thats what i can say about them.
Kunai:
+ Easy to aim (blade is heavier, than handle)
+ Can be used in hand-to-hand combat
+ Heavier than shurikens (easier to throw, harder to deflect, stronger the impact)
- usually less sharper than shurikens
- require a good depth perseption to accurately throw them
- easier to detect
Shuriken
+ Sharp
+ has only 1 blunt axis (kunai has 1 and 2 halves)
+ hardly detectable to the target
+ less dependant on depth perseption
- throwing proccess requires special training
- usually unusable in hand-to-hand combat
- due to light weight - easibly deflectable and requres extreme aim to cause critical injuries
BTW there are no such thing as cool and not cool - they both aren't designed to look nice - they are designed to kill stuff.
so go w/ the kunai, roger that!
OpsahlMadness
06-30-2006, 05:20 AM
Kunai all the way, im gonna buy a couple of the internet once i get the money:D
ardayaman
07-04-2006, 01:06 PM
i don't kie the shape of kunai.shuriken is cool........
I dont like tha shape in real life, but I like the shape in the anime/mange
ardayaman
07-04-2006, 01:19 PM
shape isn't important,the important thing is being useful and kunai is more useful.
The shape is the most important thing! If you can change the shape of a kunai to a shuriken and vice versa that would make the shape really important now wouldnt it!
ardayaman
07-04-2006, 01:36 PM
are u kidding or serious?
Im being serious your statment made no sense!! Different shapes of different objects make up its usefulness!!
ardayaman
07-04-2006, 01:44 PM
ofcourse but if u change the shape of it,it's name will change,won't it?
The wind shuriken looks more like and has more uses than a kunai and its still called a shuriken, it even looks more like 4 curved kunai like the one kabuto was using in the hospital w/ sauske than it does a shuriken and its still called a shuriken so whats ya point!!
ardayaman
07-04-2006, 01:54 PM
i said i like the shape of shuriken but not all of 'em.classic star shape is good.thats all.
Valleyman
07-13-2006, 02:03 AM
Kunai. It looks cooler than a shurken.
Fool Of Doom
07-13-2006, 05:43 AM
ofcourse but if u change the shape of it,it's name will change,won't it?no, if i cut off my arm i wont be bob i will still be tristan
~Hyuuga Neji~
08-20-2006, 10:59 AM
i would choose kunai cause it shape like a dagger and could be use in taijutsus
and watsoever..
and it hurts more than shuriken in naruto ninja council :D :D
the naruto ninja council is a game... not a movie :D :D
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