Naruto 425 Spoiler Discussions

[the lost shinobi]

As you all know here on NC, our lovely community has a rule that you shouldn't post spoilers anywhere but in a spoiler thread. SO please, don't do anything to the contrary or your actions will be tantamount to dividing by zero or googling google. No need to rip holes in the space time continuum. Just post in the right are. Discuss spoilers here and post them here (http://forum.narutochaos.com/showthread.php?p=753677#post753677)

[Seraphiel]

The spoiler u posted is last weeks cover as far as I remember or a preview for this week.

[the lost shinobi]

The spoiler u posted is last weeks cover as far as I remember or a preview for this week.

meh it isn't mine. Some dude here on NC said it was for this weeks copy. SO I made the threads and posted them. I really don't know

[Seraphiel]

meh it isn't mine. Some dude here on NC said it was for this weeks copy. SO I made the threads and posted them. I really don't know

he said latest shounen jump and thats last weeks,next one still wont be out for a few hours,and yeah the guy is japanese so he should know.

We need to make him give us early spoilers.

[Thistle]

I would draw my hat for Kishimoto if he got the balls to kill Kakashi off, although i for my part would really miss Kakashi as a character. The manga would lose more than it would gain (by character development of Naruto) and we all already know what a badass Pain is. Not to forget that Kakashi would deserve a "better" end than this. But maybe that's why Deva Pain left, he knew that Kakashi was done for sure...and this way it would have some impact on Naruto, by blaming himself that he wasn't there in time.

[the lost shinobi]

Agreed Thistle. I wouldn't like his death but I'd like Kishi's diverting from shonen cliches. But of this is last weeks cover then I doubt he's really going to die.

@Blind, sorry for making the threads early, I thought this was a legit spoiler. And I know you don't enjoy these threads being made before Tuesday-ish

[Thistle]

Well there was no Naruto chapter last week but there surely was a Shounen Jump magazine? So it must be 2 weeks old if it was already published...:mmph:

[Seraphiel]

Well there was no Naruto chapter last week but there surely was a Shounen Jump magazine? So it must be 2 weeks old if it was already published...:mmph:

Indeed thistle indeed.

[br4nd0nh347]

I still don't believe Kakashi is dead yet.
I want him to be dead though, because this would mean Naruto would be going into a different direction.
I can imagine Hanzou as hokage, tsunade????
Naruto on the run?
8 tailed Killer Bee ???
I'm actually interested in what will happen in naruto now.

[Seraphiel]

I still don't believe Kakashi is dead yet.
I want him to be dead though, because this would mean Naruto would be going into a different direction.
I can imagine Hanzou as hokage, tsunade????
Naruto on the run?
8 tailed Killer Bee ???
I'm actually interested in what will happen in naruto now.

hanzo is dead I think u mean danzou?

[br4nd0nh347]

hanzo is dead I think u mean danzou?

ROFLMAO, yeah Danzou.

[JD021]

i hope that spoiler i posted is confirmed because i have one word..DAMN!

[the lost shinobi]

I doubt it's true. Kakashi barely pulled off his last Kamui. I don't think he can use an extra large raikiri. When characters say they'll die of chakra loss the generally just fall unconscious, but they never pull out some uber jutsu.

[JD021]

true but it could've been like a bleach resolve moment but i unno the spoilder sounds really cool we still have atleast 2-3 more days b4 we find out 4sure

[blind]

I doubt it's true. Kakashi barely pulled off his last Kamui. I don't think he can use an extra large raikiri. When characters say they'll die of chakra loss the generally just fall unconscious, but they never pull out some uber jutsu.

Not really, Sasuke looked to be in worse shape than Kakashi (minus getting a nail in the head), and yet he still pull Manda out of his ass, so a character saying he's out of chakra doesn't really mean much.

[KAKASHI10]

what it says?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xI7e3Putqk0/SSFq9VGaQaI/AAAAAAAAAeM/3se0XEJX3-M/s1600-h/2.jpg

[KageNaruto]

Not really, Sasuke looked to be in worse shape than Kakashi (minus getting a nail in the head), and yet he still pull Manda out of his ass, so a character saying he's out of chakra doesn't really mean much.

Sasuke never claimed to be out of chakra. It was Diedara who jumped to that conclusion.

[blind]

what it says?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xI7e3Putqk0/SSFq9VGaQaI/AAAAAAAAAeM/3se0XEJX3-M/s1600-h/2.jpg

Clearly fake, Naruto with Sharingan? Seriously?

Sasuke never claimed to be out of chakra. It was Diedara who jumped to that conclusion.

Yes, he didn't saying it, but the fact that he deactivated his Sharingan, on purpose or not, still says something about how much chakra he had at the moment.

[-Erios-]

thanks taka for the pics :D
and wow it seems like its true kakshi is really going to die:( Curse you kishi!!!

[takadanama]

No no they are fake I guess :x don't believe it....

[blind]

No no they are fake I guess :x don't believe it....

Does seem fake, Pakkun seems a little fat in that picture. And I think the title page has been used in another chapter, at least the background with the "wind" and "lightning" thing anyways.

[-Erios-]

fake? they seem to follow the spoiler above it....ohhh! but true i dont think that the spoiler that JD021 posted has been confirmed....:confused: anyway thanks :D

[KageNaruto]

The pictures are totally fake. Kishimoto does not suck that much at drawing.

[Nick]

I'm almost more than sure now that they're getting pretty close to combining and forming Gogeta (or maybe Vegeto?) and saving the universe with the dragon balls.

[rasenproc]

i really hope those are all false

[Dream Catcher]

I hope they are true ! Die kakashi die !

[Seraphiel]

I really hope Sasuke destroys every1.

[Dream Catcher]

I hope Sasuke comes to a destroyed Konoha and his emo head pops

[Seraphiel]

I hope Sasuke comes to a destroyed Konoha and his emo head pops

U know he is 1337 and no 1 in konoha can touch him.


:D

[alimujtaba786]

what wil happen if he sees danzou killed by ain ( somehow ) ..... and will be pissed ....... and he will say WTF !! ?? pain what did u do .... they were mine enemies ... and now i will KILL u ... and pain like ok try and kill me .... !!! and sasuke OH WHATS THAT A BLADE THROUGH MY CHEST ... !! () _ ()

[Seraphiel]

Actually the only thing that is good about the peins we saw is that tendou can use gravity which would shield him from amaterasu,and I highly doubt Sasuke would attack pein cuz he killed danzou,there plenty of the village left :D

[mandelak]

hey would that gravity thing work against susanoo too. i think it might.

anyways those fake spoilers were good. to clean for real, but nice anyway.

[Karin<3]

It's probably fake.

[Seraphiel]

hey would that gravity thing work against susanoo too. i think it might.

anyways those fake spoilers were good. to clean for real, but nice anyway.

I don't see how that is possible but u never know with pein.

[Teh Goomba]

Kakashi and Pain realize they both were beaten as a child and make up. Then sasuke shows up and gets DP'ed by Kakashi and Pain after they realize that they should make love, not war.

[Seraphiel]

Kakashi and Pain realize they both were beaten as a child and make up. Then sasuke shows up and gets DP'ed by Kakashi and Pain after they realize that they should make love, not war.

do you have a sister me and blaze would gladly dp her.

AND LEAVE SASUKE OUT OF IT.


I shall be the only one to have sex with him.

[Ashikaga]

he said latest shounen jump and thats last weeks,next one still wont be out for a few hours,and yeah the guy is japanese so he should know.

We need to make him give us early spoilers.

Just to clarify, what I posted was a "teaser" page that tells you what's coming up in the following issue. It was from the current issue that just came out on Monday (11/17) in Japan. Now, the next issue (the issue No.52) will be coming out this Saturday (11/22) instead of next Monday as we will be observing the previous day's Labour Thanksgiving Day that day.

Re : the few pages that someone had posted, I'd have to say they are fake.
The first page even has the sell-date for the "upcoming" issue no.49, which was a few issues back (like I said, the next issue is no.52), yet the date is 11/26. It just does not make sense.

[KAKASHI10]

I'm almost more than sure now that they're getting pretty close to combining and forming Gogeta (or maybe Vegeto?) and saving the universe with the dragon balls.
i like that idea :thumb: hilarious

Clearly fake, Naruto with Sharingan? Seriously?



Yes, he didn't saying it, but the fact that he deactivated his Sharingan, on purpose or not, still says something about how much chakra he had at the moment.

Duse I ask to translate please.
also I dont know hoe to quote more than one person

[Thistle]

No no they are fake I guess :x don't believe it....

Sure they are fake, cobbled together from various chapters (talking about the Kakashi flashback page here). I think i have seen every single panel of that page before in some other chapter. And taka...you as a scanlator should be able to tell with one glance at the pages...:twitch: (and no, it is not my intention to critisize you :hug:)

[blind]

Duse I ask to translate please.
also I dont know hoe to quote more than one person

I'm not going to translate something that's obviously fake. I mean, seriously, Naruto with Sharingan?

[JD021]

unless he found a way to steal itachis eyes! which isnt impossible or did that aloe vera guy eat him yet? and still how would naruto get his hands on itachis body in frog mountain i say fake fake fakeeee

[Seraphiel]

Just to clarify, what I posted was a "teaser" page that tells you what's coming up in the following issue. It was from the current issue that just came out on Monday (11/17) in Japan. Now, the next issue (the issue No.52) will be coming out this Saturday (11/22) instead of next Monday as we will be observing the previous day's Labour Thanksgiving Day that day.

Re : the few pages that someone had posted, I'd have to say they are fake.
The first page even has the sell-date for the "upcoming" issue no.49, which was a few issues back (like I said, the next issue is no.52), yet the date is 11/26. It just does not make sense.

I noticed and corrected myself after I posted that :D

[Shippuuden42]

unless he found a way to steal itachis eyes! which isnt impossible or did that aloe vera guy eat him yet? and still how would naruto get his hands on itachis body in frog mountain i say fake fake fakeeee

Toby asked Sasuke if he would transplant Itachis eyes. Sasuke said no that he had other plans although he has yet to say what he is going to use them for. So no way Naruto would get those eyes.

[Thistle]

Ah come on people why should Naruto be interested in getting Itachi's eyes? Even if he knew where the eyes are, does anyone really thing that Naruto could walk over there and take them out of Madara's freeze? Seriously, chances are zero that this is going to happen.

[JD021]

im sure we all agree with you but it was pretty cool to consider though

[sasuke123uchiha]

i like the fake pics one its really fun to read

edit:
the new one is great hope it get real

[Thistle]

None of the pages posted in the spoiler thread does convince me, the only one that i find to be interesting is the one with the summoner girl and her caterpillars (or whatever those things may be).

[papfles]

None of the pages posted in the spoiler thread does convince me, the only one that i find to be interesting is the one with the summoner girl and her caterpillars (or whatever those things may be).

even though Sakura already punched that one into death.

They all seem too clear to be real.

[Thistle]

even though Sakura already punched that one into death.

They all seem too clear to be real.

The page with the summoner girl being the only one looking a bit more convincing than the others is my humble opinion as a former scanlator...not that any of them does really convince me...

And this (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/421/02/) one looks a bit different to me...

[JD021]

i like the fake pics one its really fun to read

edit:
the new one is great hope it get real

that new spoiler is not so new since i already posted it lol

[PirUnravel]

lmfao @ repeat spoiler.

[ANBUMike]

Sharingan Naruto = WTF? FTW. :rofl:

[naruto_fan_390]

there are all fake

[mandelak]

lmao naruto with sharingan. it is fake i think because it has a black bg and black represents a memory or flash back.

2 of the spoilers are the same

[Herumor]

AND LEAVE SASUKE OUT OF IT.
I shall be the only one to have sex with him.

Sakuse is Kishi's luver they already got jiggy =(

im sure we all agree with you but it was pretty cool to consider though
I can't believe people are even discussing the spoiler with Naruto and the Sharingan. . .


even though Sakura already punched that one into death.
They all seem too clear to be real.
That caterpillar looks different from the one Saukra pwned, it's alot smaller. The other one looked as big as a house. But who would sign a contract with caterpillar summons? O.o Pretty lame summon choice if you ask me. . .

[ANBUMike]

That caterpillar looks different from the one Saukra pwned, it's alot smaller. The other one looked as big as a house. But who would sign a contract with caterpillar summons? O.o Pretty lame summon choice if you ask me. . .

Same goes for a slug.

And the Naru Sharingan was hilarious, and pretty cool, interesting look.

[JD021]

your sig is hilarious dude!!!

on topic
i think the spoiler about kakashi is real ive been looking everywhere and that spoiler is posted and those pics kind of add up i just hope there would be more to the chapter like narutos training..whats good with those slugs and wtf are the other peins doing!!?

[thornofcarrion]

Naruto is a sort of character that would never want to have Itachi or someone else eyes. He likes to become stronger on his own.

With sage training it does not look like he even needs kyuubi.

[Teh Goomba]

With sage training it does not look like he even needs kyuubi.

Ironic, because if it weren't for Kyuubi, he wouldn't have been able to do sage technique to the extent he has (finished).

Also, Kyuubi is the source of his stamina and healing ability.

[KageNaruto]

Ironic, because if it weren't for Kyuubi, he wouldn't have been able to do sage technique to the extent he has (finished).

Also, Kyuubi is the source of his stamina and healing ability.

Does he want Kyuubi? Didn't he say he won't use it with Yamato?

[thornofcarrion]

Ironic, because if it weren't for Kyuubi, he wouldn't have been able to do sage technique to the extent he has (finished).

Also, Kyuubi is the source of his stamina and healing ability.

Yes but by not needing Kyuubi I mean when the tails come out and Naruto gets out of control.

About Kyuubi being source of chakra, I do not completely agree, against Gaara after getting totally exhausted the chakra came out was blue and that of Naruto. Kyuubi does help him heal faster and other stuff.

Naruto must have inherited some traits of his father who did not have any kyuubi or bloodline limit yet he was awesome. lets see if we get to see Gaara fighting again then we would no something about power level with the beast.

[Teh Goomba]

About Kyuubi being source of chakra, I do not completely agree, against Gaara after getting totally exhausted the chakra came out was blue and that of Naruto. Kyuubi does help him heal faster and other stuff.

Naruto must have inherited some traits of his father who did not have any kyuubi or bloodline limit yet he was awesome. lets see if we get to see Gaara fighting again then we would no something about power level with the beast.[/quote]

It was said very early on that Naruto gets his quick recovery and stamina from the same thing that allows him to have such a huge chakra pool; portions of the fox's chakra constantly mix with Naruto's own source making for his large reserve. His father did not have such a huge chakra pool, it was never even hinted that he did.

We are getting way off topic here tho... :-/

[papfles]

Thanks for the pictures, taka :)

now I still wonder why kishi said "dark blue" for kakashi's future, if he said "pitch black" for Itachi's (which would signify death). Then dark blue is something different than death, no? Or are blue and black both colours of death in Japan?

[Seraphiel]

how many pics did taka post I saw only 1,oh and I posted 1 moar.

he looks dead.

[Veni]

Didn't White Fang kill himself when Kakashi was little? That picture seems fake to me.

[Seraphiel]

Didn't White Fang kill himself when Kakashi was little? That picture seems fake to me.

its prolly not fake,spirit realm meeting,just a metaphor and so on.

[Veni]

Well it will certainly be unprecedented.

[Murdock]

now I still wonder why kishi said "dark blue" for kakashi's future, if he said "pitch black" for Itachi's (which would signify death). Then dark blue is something different than death, no? Or are blue and black both colours of death in Japan?


That's why i say that Kakashi won't die he probably will lose his sharingan that was my first thought

[Thistle]

Kishimoto may have changed his mind about the plot and he skipped the part about Kakashi and Sakura that was on his mind. So Kakashi's future may have changed from "dark blue" to "pitch black", too...another sign that he is hastening things towards the end.

[JD021]

wow thats sad i really hope hes not dead

[Seraphiel]

Yes he is,and next one to die is konohamaru BUAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

[papfles]

Yes he is,and next one to die is konohamaru BUAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

That cannot happen... he is out somewhere saving that cat again.

[Thistle]

That cannot happen... he is out somewhere saving that cat again.

Well the fat lady owning the cat fell on him :p

And the translation of the latest (rumored to be confirmed) spoiler does show Kakashi dying, and Konohamaru among the ruins of Konoha by the way...

[JD021]

i just posted another spoiler if anybody could translate that would be great

[edit] nvm just read the post above me i guess well see a more detailed trans soon.. but wow im still not over the fact that kakashi is really dead..does anybody see him becoming a new pein body??

[Thistle]

nvm just read the post above me i guess well see a more detailed trans soon..

I just posted a rough trans from MH in the spoiler thread.

[JD021]

thank you very much

[oldskool uchiha]

All my faves are being killed one by one , first itachi now kakashi . I'm gonna go cry in a corner somewhere .

[papfles]

I must admit that I like the fact that Kishi is not sparing anyone and is going for total mayhem, so that's actually a nice one.

That he needs to kill of people for that, so be it, although I thought he would give a more fitting end to kakashi (although I'm starting to assume he's merely in a coma, hence dark blue >_>)

[Thistle]

All my faves are being killed one by one , first itachi now kakashi . I'm gonna go cry in a corner somewhere .

Ah, please read that spoiler trans carefully...it shows Kakashi's head going down, apparently he loses consciousness. There is still a chance that he may get saved somehow, for example by Tsunade's slugs. So it looks to me like Kishimoto is giving us another cliffhanger concerning Kakashi (but besides this not much is going to happen in this chapter apparently...).

[JD021]

id rather him be dead then in the hospital for 3 months again

[thornofcarrion]

Yes the spoiler only shows Kakashi head going down. It does not mean he is dead yet. I pray he wont die because that will be so lame of kishi and will definitely make the series empty. kakashi is a great character.

[y.o.]

HOORAY!!!!!!!! Kakashi is dead, thats friking awsome I didnt think kishi had the balls to do it, to kill off another beloved character, itachi, jariya, and now kakashi...... and everyone thought he would be hokage!! Guess that was a suprise, kakashi dying instead of the 5th!!

[thornofcarrion]

HOORAY!!!!!!!! Kakashi is dead, thats friking awsome I didnt think kishi had the balls to do it, to kill off another beloved character, itachi, jariya, and now kakashi...... and everyone thought he would be hokage!! Guess that was a suprise, kakashi dying instead of the 5th!!

Don't be so cruel man. You are hurting my feelings. Kakashi is a good guy. What in the world bad he did to you?

[oldskool uchiha]

Ah, please read that spoiler trans carefully...it shows Kakashi's head going down, apparently he loses consciousness. There is still a chance that he may get saved somehow, for example by Tsunade's slugs. So it looks to me like Kishimoto is giving us another cliffhanger concerning Kakashi (but besides this not much is going to happen in this chapter apparently...).

Thanks for some hope but i'm leanin to death on this one , kishi isn't known for his injuries :tsk:

[Seraphiel]

I think he died.


but hey there can be many retarded ways to bring him back.


Like editor no jutsu,he was first in the polls,editor:Kishi he wont die cuz kids read naruto cuz of him,kihsi.he is dead,*editor takes out cash*:He is not.

[raugaj08_]

no kaka-san is not coming back unfortunately...
Id have to admit Kakashi dying like that is quite lame...

[papfles]

And since Sakura has killed the summon and the summoning body is where Ino is, it's possible that she is on the move already.

Slugs / Sakura could make a return possible.

The little naruto-skit is also golden, as it shows that his training isn't just "breezing through", like some feared

[y.o.]

Don't be so cruel man. You are hurting my feelings. Kakashi is a good guy. What in the world bad he did to you?

Nothing, I am just proud that kishi is pulling out all the stops and no character is safe from being killed. W/ the exception of naruto, sasuke and sakura! But from all the stories from the past I wouldnt be suprised if sakura died! Most writers dont have the balls to kill off so many favorite characters.

[raugaj08_]

Nothing, I am just proud that kishi is pulling out all the stops and no character is safe from being killed. W/ the exception of naruto, sasuke and sakura! But from all the stories from the past I wouldnt be suprised if sakura died! Most writers dont have the balls to kill off so many favorite characters.

could also mean the series is perhaps comnig to an end?

[JD021]

i doubt ti this is just a sign that the new generation is stepping up to be responsible it seems that kishi thinks death is the only way to harden emotion which is true in some cases but kakashi was a great character if he is dead i think we should atleast get to see his face

[Thistle]

The little naruto-skit is also golden, as it shows that his training isn't just "breezing through", like some feared

Totally unnecessary at this point of time imo. Naruto won't be called back anyway, no reason to delay the completion of his training or to put any stones into his way of finally fighting and defeating Pain.

Nothing, I am just proud that kishi is pulling out all the stops and no character is safe from being killed. W/ the exception of naruto, sasuke and sakura! But from all the stories from the past I wouldnt be suprised if sakura died! Most writers dont have the balls to kill off so many favorite characters.

We see Kakashi dying, he must not be dead yet. As has been said, there are a thousand ways how he could still be saved (editor no jutsu, lol). But i still expect Tsunade to give her life for her village.

could also mean the series is perhaps comnig to an end?

It is my feeling that the manga is hastening towards its end, looking at how Kishimoto has sped up the storyline. But it may only mean that the end is in sight, not that it comes in a few weeks or months.

[Hyugumaki]

could also mean the series is perhaps coming to an end?

Probably. I'm guess it has another year or so to go, but this is definitely moving in that direction. Major characters dying off and setting up for the end of the series. Kakashi's dead, I'm not going to deny it or cling to false hopes like I did with Jiraiya. The most I will say is that Kishi isn't doing it on a 1.5 month absence. That sucked last year ...

And for Naruto, I like the twist that he can't fuse with Pa. It's a unique challenge that I never saw being a factor in the training. Maybe this is setting up for the conversation with the Key and the revelation about the Kyuubi and how Naruto can actually harness/control that portion of himself.

Great stuff Kishi. I hated having to wait 2 weeks for it, but it's still rewarding! I wonder how Konahamaru will fall into the story-line. And yes, Tsunade will die along side Kakashi, Kishi said she would die. Sakura needs more maturing, I guess.

[ShoulderRoll]

The way I see the series going... The current guard is being killed off by Akatsuki and Danzou. I have no doubt that Tsunade is next. I mean, this is it. The kids we saw grow up will have to get together and take charge. I have no problem with Kakashi dying like this, he was never the most powerful ninja.

[the lost shinobi]

All I know is Kishi totally surprised us with the next chapter. I never expected to see Sakumo. We get to see more of the legendary White Fang who rivaled the Sannin! Even if it is just to see what he looks like and what he acts like. And we also get an inkling to what Kakashi looks like O_O'

Another person has recognized Pein's body! and ANBU and Ibiki are going to fight. Sounds cool. I want to see what ANBU tactics are like

[Seraphiel]

All I know is Kishi totally surprised us with the next chapter. I never expected to see Sakumo. We get to see more of the legendary White Fang who rivaled the Sannin! Even if it is just to see what he looks like and what he acts like. And we also get an inkling to what Kakashi looks like O_O'

Another person has recognized Pein's body! and ANBU and Ibiki are going to fight. Sounds cool. I want to see what ANBU tactics are like

Hold them of until main chars come?

[y.o.]

Probably. I'm guess it has another year or so to go, but this is definitely moving in that direction. Major characters dying off and setting up for the end of the series. Kakashi's dead, I'm not going to deny it or cling to false hopes like I did with Jiraiya. The most I will say is that Kishi isn't doing it on a 1.5 month absence. That sucked last year ...

And for Naruto, I like the twist that he can't fuse with Pa. It's a unique challenge that I never saw being a factor in the training. Maybe this is setting up for the conversation with the Key and the revelation about the Kyuubi and how Naruto can actually harness/control that portion of himself.

Great stuff Kishi. I hated having to wait 2 weeks for it, but it's still rewarding! I wonder how Konahamaru will fall into the story-line. And yes, Tsunade will die along side Kakashi, Kishi said she would die. Sakura needs more maturing, I guess.

I find it kinda lame that characters have to die, so others can be strong, w/ so many dying all the time kakashi should have been the strongest in the village, lol so should konohamaru..... b/c his parents were never shown I asume their dead too, his uncle and grandfather!

[raugaj08_]

Kishi is a Sarutobi HAter!

btw ANBU = fodder Chunnins
pretty useless as shown during Oro's Konoha Invasion!

[Seraphiel]

Kishi is a Sarutobi HAter!

btw ANBU = fodder Chunnins
pretty useless as shown during Oro's Konoha Invasion!

yes they "only" repelled the invasion.

[y.o.]

yes they "only" repelled the invasion.

I think he is refering to the time that kabuto pwned a whole room of them, solo to get to sauske!

[Seraphiel]

I think he is refering to the time that kabuto pwned a whole room of them, solo to get to sauske!

Kabuto=pre timeskip kakashi lvl

pre timeskip kakashi>anbu

[raugaj08_]

... the only ones repelling the Invasion were the Jounins...
did u see any of the ANBU do anything besides getting owned by Kabuto and Oro's lackeys...

[Seraphiel]

... the only ones repelling the Invasion were the Jounins...
did u see any of the ANBU do anything besides getting owned by Kabuto and Oro's lackeys...

the anbu led the counter attack.


rofl,get ur facts straight,after that we got a glimps of clan leaders.

[hadesikkk]

It is my feeling that the manga is hastening towards its end, looking at how Kishimoto has sped up the storyline. But it may only mean that the end is in sight, not that it comes in a few weeks or months.

yea i think that is true, but the question remains: will naruto find out that he is minato namikaze's son? and will he BECOME HOKAGE or die along whit sasuke in a mortal fight??? because lets face it he is the profecy child and he will avoid the 4 great ninja war. if he dies i'm gonna :smash::rant:

[WjRgX]

The way kakashi has his head hanging low in the spoiler picture before he "dies" has me thinking that his dad is going to say something to the effect that it is not his time to die, not yet and then kakashi will look up with and have a new sharingan or something.

[nagato]

uk that its fake right. the 1 with his father. he couldnt possibly have his eye injured when it happened after his father died. and thats y he is such a dick to obito cause of what happened to his father he doesnt want that to happen to him.

[Thistle]

if he dies i'm gonna :smash::rant:

Should Naruto die then Kishimoto seriously messed up his storyline and his own reputation as well. Many fans will feel like they have been fooled for years...Kishimoto may favor Sasuke but letting Naruto die...this is not DBZ. Most probably not going to happen. Ah, and welcome to NC!

uk that its fake right. the 1 with his father. he couldnt possibly have his eye injured when it happened after his father died. and thats y he is such a dick to obito cause of what happened to his father he doesnt want that to happen to him.

It is actually a talk between Kakashi and his father on some "spiritual" level, and not some flashback. It's in the latest spoiler text that is said to be confirmed. There also seems to be some flashback with Obito in the chapter which usually means death for the one having the flashback.

[JD021]

doesnt seem like much is going to happen this week..we really dont get to find out if kakashi is truly dead..not much fighting and naruot cant fuse which is a pretty good twist maybe its time for him to try to use that scroll.. also ive been wondering whats going on with killerbee hes kind of been MIA since his little stunt with akatsuki

[PirUnravel]

There are so many MIA's... I hate how Kabuto is still floating around somewhere. It couldn't be more obvious that Kishi is just using him as plot fodder in the future... and he is in an editor's cryogenic freeze right now. <_<

I think the best part of this chapter will be Ino's Dad recognizing one of the Pain's... definitely interesting.

[naruto_fan_390]

yeah now naruto has to be-friend the 9T, or just suck.

[Thistle]

yeah now naruto has to be-friend the 9T, or just suck.

One can't befriend Kyuubi from what we have seen about it so far. Other Bijuu were apparently much friendlier towards their hosts than Kyuubi. It wishes nothing more but to break free from its host while others seemed to be more in a symbiosis with their hosts.

We haven't seen the chapter and can't tell what the exact problem with Kyuubi will be yet, but i guess the answer to that will be the key left behind by Jiraiya. Looks like now the time has come to use it.

[JD021]

There are so many MIA's... I hate how Kabuto is still floating around somewhere. It couldn't be more obvious that Kishi is just using him as plot fodder in the future... and he is in an editor's cryogenic freeze right now. <_<

I think the best part of this chapter will be Ino's Dad recognizing one of the Pain's... definitely interesting.


ive been wondering about kabuto for the longest it seems strange that an ending feels near yet there are so many things that havent been touched on and kishi isnt the type to just leave things unanswered from what ive been reading the past 3 years

One can't befriend Kyuubi from what we have seen about it so far. Other Bijuu were apparently much friendlier towards their hosts than Kyuubi. It wishes nothing more but to break free from its host while others seemed to be more in a symbiosis with their hosts.


i think with proper training from killer bee (which ive been predicting for the longest) naruto will be able to control the kyuubi..i believe bee will see the potential in naruto.. maybe not at first but he will at some point and offer to teach naruto a few things... sometime in the future i really wish for naru to have some genjutsu as well along with another element but all of this will take a while for him considering hes only been a ninja for about 4 years in the story compared to sasuke who graduated on top of the class,also recieved training from his father and watched alot of what his brother did when he was around

[Kisame-san]

ive been wondering about kabuto for the longest it seems strange that an ending feels near yet there are so many things that havent been touched on and kishi isnt the type to just leave things unanswered from what ive been reading the past 3 years


Kishi really isn't one to leave things unanswered. I remember the discussions about the other great villages besides Konoha and Suna. How many people said they won't be important at all. But Kishi doesn't bring things up just for fun. The possible meeting of the five Kages are proof enough.
Kabuto will also return and i think this will be a big moment.

And now about Kakashi:


We won’t know if Kakashi is dead or not and I guess, we won’t for a few chapters. Kakashi has been a very important character during part 1, but he has somewhat lost his purpose in part 2. Kishi said his future will be dark blue, not black as Itachi’s. This could be a sign that he’s gonna survive.
If we sum the deaths of part 2 up, then we see everyone has its purpose:

Gaara: He had to die for several reasons. First because Akatsuki simply needed the Shukaku, second to show, that Jinchuuriki are indeed not invincible. He was revived by Chiyo because he will be needed in the future.
Sasori: He was a bad guy and bad guys die.
Chiyo: She was old and dies while showing her trust in the next generation.
Asuma: His dead showed how dangerous Akatsuki is. It was also an initial spark for the next generation. Shikamaru and the other Rookies had to learn their role as Ninjas. Playtime was over.
Hidan: Isn’t really dead, but his role was to prove the reason of Asuma’s death. The next generation will surpass the former.
Kakuzu: Same story like Hidan. Naruto could a bit show off with FRS.
Deidara: If Naruto has his moment, then Sasuke absolutely must have one and the whole Orochimaru thing wasn’t impressive enough to show how strong Sasuke has become.
Jiraiya: Another former vs. next generation thing. Main purpose was to show how strong Akatsuki really is (mainly Pein). His death also gave some insight into Akatsuki. And it marked a moment of change in Naruto’s character development.
Itachi: He simply had to die. It would have been unreal if he didn’t. His death was the key to know about the whole Uchiha tragedy. Of course he became a saint in the end, but come on, he was an Uchiha!
Chouza: Wasn’t an important character at all, but fulfilled his part by saving Chouji - another generation thing.

And now Kakashi. Will he die? Will he not?
Scenario 1: He will die and show us again the former generation vs. next generation thing and give the final prove of Pein’s awesomeness.
Scenario 2: He has a near death experience and Sakumo tells him to wake up from living in the past. If this is the case, he won’t be the same as before, a new White Fang probably. Every generation had its Hokage so far only Kakashi’s didn’t. If he survives he will have a new role in this whole plot.
But that’s only what I’m thinking. I don’t really see Kishi’s reason to Kill Kakashi off right now, but we'll see.

[Gobi]

off topic i know, but in the prediction forum i said konohamaru was going to be a big part and it was shot down so... HA! but yea the spoilers are pretty nice i believe in the whole

""""""""""Scenario 2: He has a near death experience and Sakumo tells him to wake up from living in the past. If this is the case, he won’t be the same as before, a new White Fang probably. Every generation had its Hokage so far only Kakashi’s didn’t. If he survives he will have a new role in this whole plot.
But that’s only what I’m thinking. I don’t really see Kishi’s reason to Kill Kakashi off right now, but we'll see.""""""""""""" idea it would make sense and it would also fit in my opinion i feel as danzou would be hokage befor him tho if tsunade dies that is

[THAT GUY!]

If I remember correctly...

There was some Kishimoto interview, in which he stated "plot events for Kakashi (and Sakura) will be coming this year", so I don't think he'll die... not yet. Besides. He's just too popular.

Also... didn't Itachi magically give Naruto some of his powers like he did to Sasuke with a crow or something (pretty sure I've seen something like that, forget which chap.)? Don't think Naruto will magically gain Sharingan (but you never know anymore <_<) but he should have SOME sort of cheap Uchiha move now. Then again, I could be wrong, so... DX

[Thistle]

If I remember correctly...

There was some Kishimoto interview, in which he stated "plot events for Kakashi (and Sakura) will be coming this year", so I don't think he'll die... not yet. Besides. He's just too popular.

Also... didn't Itachi magically give Naruto some of his powers like he did to Sasuke with a crow or something (pretty sure I've seen something like that, forget which chap.)? Don't think Naruto will magically gain Sharingan (but you never know anymore <_<) but he should have SOME sort of cheap Uchiha move now. Then again, I could be wrong, so... DX

Welcome to NC.

Yes, i also remember having read something like this. But didn't it say that the first half of this year would be about Sasuke and the other half about Kakashi and Sakura? And what did become of that...so i think that Kishimoto has changed his mind, and this interview is no defense against Kakashi dying, unfortunately...

And about that power that Naruto got from Sasuke...we have been speculating about it. whatever it is, it will most probably only trigger the moment Naruto faces Sasuke, so it won't be of any use here...

[naruto_fan_390]

they are all fake

[-Erios-]

they are all fake

not the last one it seems to be confirmed >.>

[THAT GUY!]

And about that power that Naruto got from Sasuke...we have been speculating about it. whatever it is, it will most probably only trigger the moment Naruto faces Sasuke, so it won't be of any use here...

Probably, but still, it could explain that fake Naruto Sharingan pic :P Itachi broke, like, ten Naruto universe laws with his jutsu transfer XD

Back on Kakashi, I for one don't think he'll be dying any time soon. Perhaps he'll be paralyzed, perhaps he'll live, perhaps he'll die. We'll see, I guess.

[-Erios-]

Probably, but still, it could explain that fake Naruto Sharingan pic :P Itachi broke, like, ten Naruto universe laws with his jutsu transfer XD

Back on Kakashi, I for one don't think he'll be dying any time soon. Perhaps he'll be paralyzed, perhaps he'll live, perhaps he'll die. We'll see, I guess.

well whats the point of being a shinobie if you cant move? so i dont think thats a "good" option...but thats just me:)

[THAT GUY!]

"Good" option? No.

Likely option (should he live)? Yes.

The guy has a nail through his head. If he lives, he's likely gonna have memory loss, become paralyzed, or just become retarded.

None of which are very good options DX

[-Erios-]

"Good" option? No.

Likely option (should he live)? Yes.

The guy has a nail through his head. If he lives, he's likely gonna have memory loss, become paralyzed, or just become retarded.

None of which are very good options DX

ok wait a second a nail through his head??!!! did you read the last chapter??

[Thistle]

Every generation had its Hokage so far only Kakashi’s didn’t. If he survives he will have a new role in this whole plot.
But that’s only what I’m thinking. I don’t really see Kishi’s reason to Kill Kakashi off right now, but we'll see.

Yes, it would be a lousy death for such a popular character and i wonder what purpose it would serve in terms of Naruto's character development. Maybe Kishimoto has lost intererest and Kakashi's death got no intended purpose?

Only thing that Kakashi still needs to do is figure out who the mysterious Akatsuki member with the sharingan eye is, we haven't seen him report to Tsunade about it. Maybe he already did so, but Kishimoto usually doesn't forget about such details.

Ah and by the way latest data book says that Hidan is only immortal for as long as he goes on killing. So we can consider him to be truly dead methinks.

[THAT GUY!]

ok wait a second a nail through his head??!!! did you read the last chapter??

I'm pretty sure its through his head. Isn't it?

[DonEmu]

He used his MS jutsu, Kamui to warp the nail dude.

[-Erios-]

I'm pretty sure its through his head. Isn't it?

ok so im assuming you think that because of this http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/423/17/

but in the next chapter we see kakashi being "ok" no nail through his skull or anything like that ..but it seems like choji's dad took the bullet ...somehow..... we still need to see kakashi explain that since kishi decided to skip that part

[Thistle]

I'm pretty sure its through his head. Isn't it?

Actually it seems like Kakashi managed to use his MS against the nail.

He got no nail sticking in his face (look here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/424/13/)), then he thinks about using "it" again (look here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/424/15/)), and finally Pain got a similar thought (look here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/424/17/)). Conclusion: Kakashi used his MS to send the nail away.

[THAT GUY!]

Ah. Forgive my missing that DX

[oipotty]

hmm.
i smell a chapter that will give us nothing.

[mithis]

hmm.
i smell a chapter that will give us nothing.


I agree. Infact I think last chapter was pretty much the same.

[Csdabest]

Yes....the chapter does give us nothing. Just finished looking at the trans and the raw. And there isnt much. Just a small talk with Kyuubi literally scaring Pa toad out his clones. Sasuke makes an appearence. And kakashi has a near death chit chat with his father it seems. Also konohamaru seems to be safe. Its kind of crazy how the fake spoilers were accurate somewhat. But i think Konohamaru is near Kakashi.

[CheerUp]

If spoilers are right, I am very glad that the fusion will not be possible. It would be kinda lame for Naruto to rely on more and more creatures to perform his "magic". Kyubi is enough.

He'll have to rely more on himself in order to prove that he can actually surpass Jiraya.
Kakashi will not die. I think he will just become more emotional, and maybe grasp a new MS technique out of this. Until now this was the recipe for MS activation....

[Seraphiel]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WP0VAOEC


raw

[Teh Goomba]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WP0VAOEC


raw

Awesome, thanks.

It looks like Konohamaru is gonna get RAPED in 426. :biggrin1:

Anyone else notice how the Human realm Pain was paired up with the Animal realm Pain? It seems like there is a relationship to which realm has dominion over another, working in two-man cells. I mean, God realm looked like he was controlling Demon realm, right?

[Seraphiel]

Awesome, thanks.

It looks like Konohamaru is gonna get RAPED in 426. :biggrin1:

Anyone else notice how the Human realm Pain was paired up with the Animal realm Pain? It seems like there is a relationship to which realm has dominion over another, working in two-man cells. I mean, God realm looked like he was controlling Demon realm, right?

Actually they are all controlled by the real pein,so no,they just gathered so they can fight together.

[Murdock]

aaaah Naruto having another draw back wooooooow why it doesn't surprise me ... Kishi is readable as hell :D

and for Kakashi not dying ...

Kishi said that Tsunade will die ... why not telling Kakashi also this is completely nonsence him dying

[Teh Goomba]

Actually they are all controlled by the real pein,so no,they just gathered so they can fight together.

Listen, in the last fight with Kakashi, God pain seemed to do almost nothing at first, while Demon pain was doing most of the work. This fight shows Human pain hanging back in just the same way. You can't deny there has to be some kind of relationship there. I mean even in the wheel of life myth, one realm is given dominion over another...

aaaah Naruto having another draw back wooooooow why it doesn't surprise me ... Kishi is readable as hell :D

and for Kakashi not dying ...

Kishi said that Tsunade will die ... why not telling Kakashi also this is completely nonsence him dying

Kishi did originally say that Naruto was NOT going to master the Sage arts... as far as Tsunade, I don't remember that at all. Linky?

[Murdock]

what? He didn't talk about Naruto and Mastering it if i remember correctly at least not in New Year's interview

[Seraphiel]

Listen, in the last fight with Kakashi, God pain seemed to do almost nothing at first, while Demon pain was doing most of the work. This fight shows Human pain hanging back in just the same way. You can't deny there has to be some kind of relationship there. I mean even in the wheel of life myth, one realm is given dominion over another...



Kishi did originally say that Naruto was NOT going to master the Sage arts... as far as Tsunade, I don't remember that at all. Linky?

When?

And no it only seems that way asure came so they could make quick work of kakashi.

[Teh Goomba]

When?

In the Kishi interview, it did say this cryptically...


6. Naruto's new skills and the result of the training will reveal when he fight against Pain.
He have learned all of the Jiraiya's jutsu during the 3 years of the time and he became
much stronger. He did not learn the "toad mode or w.e u call it". Naruto also learned
3 of the 4th's jutsus.


I took it to mean that he can't fuse with the toads, which is what I meant by "mastery" of the sage arts. Even though that seems a little too specific, it's still there staring you in the face after Naruto learned the Sage arts... get me?

Then again, now as I read it, he may have just been talking about the time he was away with Jiraiya. Oh well...

I still want to see where he said that the 5th will die...

[papfles]

He have learned all of the Jiraiya's jutsu during the 3 years of the time and he became
much stronger.

Then why the f hasn't he used swamp, that ultimate rasengan or the hair jutsu... even the oil jutsu or the hiding in shadows jutsu? There would be no reason for Kishi to hide those jutsus, as it would just build naruto to become a better shinobi in our regards. Kishi was drunk probably during this interview >_>

[Murdock]

In the Kishi interview, it did say this cryptically...



I took it to mean that he can't fuse with the toads, which is what I meant by "mastery" of the sage arts. Even though that seems a little too specific, it's still there staring you in the face after Naruto learned the Sage arts... get me?

Then again, now as I read it, he may have just been talking about the time he was away with Jiraiya. Oh well...

I still want to see where he said that the 5th will die...

that was ment that during those 3 years he didn't leran it but not that he will not learn it in the future ...


look up for New Year's interview

[Teh Goomba]

look up for New Year's interview

I did. It doesn't say she will die anywhere.

[churchblue]

In the manga, Inoichi said that the new summoning Pain is a dude. I thought it was a chick!!

[y.o.]

When they were bringing the dead body to pains house of the dead, he said that it was a chick because it was so light!

[Teh Goomba]

Bad translation, probably. It happens all the time. Remember the "6" elements? :p heh

Yay! Next chapter: "Konoha and Naruto"! I hope there is some kind of Kyuubi and sage mode thing happeneing.

[Murdock]

Bad translation, probably. It happens all the time. Remember the "6" elements? :p heh

Yay! Next chapter: "Konoha and Naruto"! I hope there is some kind of Kyuubi and sage mode thing happeneing.

http://forum.narutochaos.com/showthread.php?t=14404&highlight=Jump+Festa

[Teh Goomba]

http://forum.narutochaos.com/showthread.php?t=14404&highlight=Jump+Festa

OK. That's the only version I have read that says "tsunade dies" so directly.
Thanks.