Naruto Chapter 425 Discussions

[the lost shinobi]

It's out and it's hot. click me (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/424/01/)

Chozo is dead! Danzou begins to move! Pein collects dead people! Kakashi is about to die! Chouji can run! DISCUSS!

O.K. This way no one can say they didn't know! NO NARUTO NEXT WEEK!!!

[KageNaruto]

Such such boring thread starters. It's like you guys don't even bother to read the chapter beforehand.

Sigh.

[the lost shinobi]

actually I did read. I was busy making a poll

[rasenproc]

wat an intence chapter. i wonder y pain is leaving. id say hes either realized naruto isnt there or he knows they are probing that guy's head. as for kakashi :( hes been one of my favorites from the start. i hope he gets out of this somehow

[KageNaruto]

Excuses :P.



If Kakashi dies this way, it's quite pathetic...

Oh, and using MS on the nail was also really lame.

This chapter also seemed to be dragging on too much.

I'm not yet sure what to predict.

[rasenproc]

Excuses :P.



If Kakashi dies this way, it's quite pathetic...

Oh, and using MS on the nail was also really lame.

This chapter also seemed to be dragging on too much.

I'm not yet sure what to predict.

i expected MS on the nail. im guessing next a snail saves his life, if he becomes a pai body thatd be retarted

[raugaj08_]

ah RIP kakashi... flashbacks of hes past next chpt...
and funny how pein didnt realise the nail was warped =_=

[KAKASHI10]

So how long there will be no naruto?

Why is he saying goodbye to rin and obito, if bth are dead?

[the lost shinobi]

Actually I'm not interested in anything as much as I am with Danzou. He seems to have made contingency plans and is just waiting for everything to unfold. I cannot wait to see what part Danzou will play in this.

I really would hate for Kakashi to die. Mostly because I really like him as a character and I don't see the point in his death. Naruto has already experienced Jiraiya's death, so I don't see why kakashi dieing would matter. I don't see Pein just leaving him be either. Pein said it himself, letting Kakashi live could be detrimental to him if they meet up later

[rasenproc]

Actually I'm not interested in anything as much as I am with Danzou. He seems to have made contingency plans and is just waiting for everything to unfold. I cannot wait to see what part Danzou will play in this.

I really would hate for Kakashi to die. Mostly because I really like him as a character and I don't see the point in his death. Naruto has already experienced Jiraiya's death, so I don't see why kakashi dieing would matter. I don't see Pein just leaving him be either. Pein said it himself, letting Kakashi live could be detrimental to him if they meet up later

pain must have realized his secret is in trouble. thats the only reason i can think of for him leaving. i think ino's dad may have to pay for being nosey

@kakashi10... i think just next week

[KageNaruto]

If Kakashi actually is dead, I'm happy.

Though I really wanted Sasuke to do it, so I'm not that happy.

[the lost shinobi]

So how long there will be no naruto?

Why is he saying goodbye to rin and obito, if bth are dead?

It seems that even my large print concise clear statement is still not enough.

[rasenproc]

So how long there will be no naruto?

Why is he saying goodbye to rin and obito, if bth are dead?

because they were his best friends and since they and the fourth died all his loved ones are dead. and he didnt say goodbye. its probably a cue for a flashback.

Is it me or does the female pain look like Rin?

[Hidden Ninja]

because they were his best friends and since they and the fourth died all his loved ones are dead. and he didnt say goodbye. its probably a cue for a flashback.

Is it me or does the female pain look like Rin?

people thought that a long time ago. but it was somehow shown that they were different people.

[rasenproc]

people thought that a long time ago. but it was somehow shown that they were different people.

where was this? we never have been shown how she died. i know kakashi has said everyone he cares about is dead.

[the lost shinobi]

because they were his best friends and since they and the fourth died all his loved ones are dead. and he didnt say goodbye. its probably a cue for a flashback.

Is it me or does the female pain look like Rin?

The female Pein is the lady in the flashback that Ibiki's men are mind probing. Kakashi mentioned that all his friends died long ago, which means Rin's body is kind of unusable on account of how decomposed it is by now. I assume the flashback we saw is pretty recent.

[KAKASHI10]

Why pain says he also uses hes power for that?
Also I dont see where he is living? he was just standing there
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/424/17/

so in two weeks there will be anew episode.
Also I will say that SAI will disobeid danzou because of the bonds he learn from naruto.

also why it says here yamato works?
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/424/02/

[the lost shinobi]

Why pain says he also uses hes power for that?
Also I dont see where he is living? he was just standing there
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/424/17/

so in two weeks there will be anew episode.
Also I will say that SAI will disobeid danzou because of the bonds he learn from naruto.

also why it says here yamato works?
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/424/02/

Because Kakashi used his MS to get rid of the nail. I don't understand your second question

Yamato works could just be a name on a sticker for that pipe. Or maybe the place Danzou and Root are in is known as Yamato Works

[SpikeUchiha]

.... it was ok all i know it that KONAN IS F***IN HOT!

[Hidden Ninja]

So how long there will be no naruto?

Why is he saying goodbye to rin and obito, if bth are dead?

kakashi didn't say goodby to rin and obito. he just mentioned there names. when many people pass and they have loved ones that have already passed they say theirs names as if they are calling out to them to let them know that they will be meeting up together soon in the afterlife.

Why pain says he also uses hes power for that?
Also I dont see where he is living? he was just standing there
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/424/17/

so in two weeks there will be anew episode.
Also I will say that SAI will disobeid danzou because of the bonds he learn from naruto.

also why it says here yamato works?
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/424/02/

pain is talking about kakashi using ms to get rid of the nail in the previous chapters attack and now he is using it again.

as to the yamato works, i am guessing that the wood plank was created by yamato and the seal is there to keep it constantly formed.

[KageNaruto]

also why it says here yamato works?
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/424/02/

Seal grafitti. A big fad. Yamoto is a fan, marking his gang territory.

Did you actually ask why Kakashi said that last line? Because Rin and Obito had the biggest impact on his life, which is now over according to his thoughts. It's the cheesy thoughts of all characters dying in stories like this.

[FerN]

Good chapter, I cant see Naruto coming back yet cause he would just die against Pein now. He still needs to train a bit. I hope Kakashi dont die

[Hidden Ninja]

what i wonder is how strong is danzou and what is his fighting style. he is one of the last remaining old members. plus he has to be incredible considering that he heads up the super secret ops group of konoha.

[the lost shinobi]

I imagine Danzou as a very traditional fighter. The analytical type who holds back at first to analyze his opponent and then counterattacks.

[KageNaruto]

I imagine him putting up a weak fight compared to the average Akatsuki member.

I actually see him as that one villian that kicks the bucket in a really pathetic way most series tend to have.

[Namikaze_Minato]

I imagine him putting up a weak fight compared to the average Akatsuki member.

I actually see him as that one villian that kicks the bucket in a really pathetic way most series tend to have.

I disagree. He has shown that he is capable of fighting/getting involved physically (when he killed the frog). Also since tsunade is not fighting pein (just healing), this now sets him up to be her opponent.

[KageNaruto]

He has shown that he is capable of fighting/getting involved physically (when he killed the frog).

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What? Might as well have sliced a pickle in half for dinner.

[raugaj08_]

I imagine him putting up a weak fight compared to the average Akatsuki member.

I actually see him as that one villian that kicks the bucket in a really pathetic way most series tend to have.

rofl... pein leaves the village... Danzou executes hes plans... gets overly excited after w8ing for so so long to be crowned hokage... dies from a heart attack...

[Namikaze_Minato]

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What? Might as well have sliced a pickle in half for dinner.

ok, lets take a look at what he had to accomplish to kill the frog. He had to 1) be near enough to tell when tsunade left, while at the same time remaining undetected by tsunade 2) move in quickly enough and with exact enough timing to kill the frog in the split second before it vanished and after tsunade left. 3) the fact that he did it himself instead of getting a minion to do it shows his confidence in his physical abilities.

[KageNaruto]

ok, lets take a look at what he had to accomplish to kill the frog. He had to 1) be near enough to tell when tsunade left, while at the same time remaining undetected by tsunade 2) move in quickly enough and with exact enough timing to kill the frog in the split second before it vanished and after tsunade left. 3) the fact that he did it himself instead of getting a minion to do it shows his confidence in his physical abilities.

Or it simply shows he can wait until somebody leaves the room, and is able to push a knife in a downward direction.

Of course he can move and use chakra. But has he done anything that would make him a kage level? He seems much too old, and the fact that he was worse than the 3rd as well doesen't make his potential all that great.

[blind]

ok, lets take a look at what he had to accomplish to kill the frog. He had to 1) be near enough to tell when tsunade left, while at the same time remaining undetected by tsunade 2) move in quickly enough and with exact enough timing to kill the frog in the split second before it vanished and after tsunade left. 3) the fact that he did it himself instead of getting a minion to do it shows his confidence in his physical abilities.

1) He could have been anywhere, and saw Tsunade leave
2) One stab with a kunai, doesn't really tell us anything
3) ...that or his lack of confidence in everyone else, or his minions weren't to be seen until later.

[Murdock]

Kakashi won't dies just yet ... i am still waiting for that Kamui story + that dark blue thing that's gonna happen to Kakashi if that means that it should happen after the stroy about Kamui ... plus i don'T call this an intense focus as promised by Kishi - i call this just filling the lane with Kakashi's fight which was expected but nothing wowo thing

and Danzou can't be Madara or his bro :D he doesn't have BLACK eye :-P

[-Erios-]

hmmm.... seems like tsunade is using a lot of chakra to heal the wonded....now what if she has to fight pein....will she have what it takes??? and well and kakashi dying....naa,...not yet someone is gonna come and save him...hopefully

[NarutoforHokage]

Has everyone forgot? Sakura will show up just in time and start healing Kakashi, duh!

[Hidden Ninja]

Has everyone forgot? Sakura will show up just in time and start healing Kakashi, duh!

she would get her @ss kicked by the pain body.

[masterkai]

Danzou is a fool does he really think that naruto is going to just follow his order, or for that matter even allow him to get away with what he is planning to do. He really think he going to become hokage. of who, no one would follow him or even accept him, what a waste. If he help out he may get some respect but to sit back and let people die what a waste, if sai don't kill him any shinobi loyal to the fifth will, even the noble clan would not follow him.

as for Kakashi little disappointed, you are known and the man who copy a thousand justu, if j-man could put up a serious fight aganist all 6 pains come on man you should at least give a better fight and you are suppose to be a hokage candidate, maybe Guy show up and save him.

last of all sakura = useless

[-Erios-]

Has everyone forgot? Sakura will show up just in time and start healing Kakashi, duh!

naa i think she has other business to take care of... she might encounter another body....and have a fight there i think its gonna be with the summon realm :)

[sasuke123uchiha]

it's a nice chap and it looks like kakashi's days are over

[the lost shinobi]

Danzou is a fool does he really think that naruto is going to just follow his order, or for that matter even allow him to get away with what he is planning to do. He really think he going to become hokage. of who, no one would follow him or even accept him, what a waste. If he help out he may get some respect but to sit back and let people die what a waste, if sai don't kill him any shinobi loyal to the fifth will, even the noble clan would not follow him.
How is Naruto going to stop him when he's stuck at the Mountain with no way of communicating? I don't think Danzou plans on killing Tsunade in plain sight if at all. This situation is perfect because Tsunade's death could be staged to look as if she died in battle with Akatsuki. Then he would be the leading candidate for the job and no one would oppose him because not having a leader during war isn't a good idea.

as for Kakashi little disappointed, you are known and the man who copy a thousand justu, if j-man could put up a serious fight aganist all 6 pains come on man you should at least give a better fight and you are suppose to be a hokage candidate, maybe Guy show up and save him.

Jiraiya put up a fight against 3 and won. Against all six he utterly failed. Kakashi isn't at Jiraiya's level yet. I don't know why your dissapointed. I never expected Kakashi to win. And if he did, it would only happen with a lot of help.

[Erotique]

it's a nice chap and it looks like kakashi's days are over

Far from over my dear paddawan learner, or haven't you learned? How many times that we've seen in Narutoverse the same old, "If I use this, I'll definitely gonna die" phrase? Hell, Lee done it, Chouji done it, Sasuke have done it, and they all lived.

Manga nowadays is so damn easy to predict.

[drunkenbama]

finally starting to get interesting --- the slugs will save chouji's dad,
fatty cry baby will run like the wind, but
kakashi's body will be taken to replace pain's clone.
Konoha's retaliation for akatsuki's attack leads naruto to face kakashi
but that's after sasuke becomes quietly enraged at akatsuki
when he sees kakashi no longer how he was and focuses his anger on pain.

[KageNaruto]

Danzou is a fool does he really think that naruto is going to just follow his order, or for that matter even allow him to get away with what he is planning to do. He really think he going to become hokage. of who, no one would follow him or even accept him, what a waste. If he help out he may get some respect but to sit back and let people die what a waste, if sai don't kill him any shinobi loyal to the fifth will, even the noble clan would not follow him.

as for Kakashi little disappointed, you are known and the man who copy a thousand justu, if j-man could put up a serious fight aganist all 6 pains come on man you should at least give a better fight and you are suppose to be a hokage candidate, maybe Guy show up and save him.

last of all sakura = useless

Naruto does not know what he is planning to do. Naruto will have to follow orders if Danzou becomes Hokage.

Everyone would accept him, he has a pretty good reputation and was a candidate before. Who will kill him? Those who aren't loyal have no clue what he is doing.

Did you really just post all that nonsense?

finally starting to get interesting --- the slugs will save chouji's dad,
fatty cry baby will run like the wind, but
kakashi's body will be taken to replace pain's clone.
Konoha's retaliation for akatsuki's attack leads naruto to face kakashi
but that's after sasuke becomes quietly enraged at akatsuki
when he sees kakashi no longer how he was and focuses his anger on pain.

If he is actually dead, it's over. You can't heal a dead body.

Why should Sasuke care about Kakashi. Did he not say a few chapters ago he wanted to tear down Konoha?

[Erotique]

If he is actually dead, it's over. You can't heal a dead body.

He's probably confusing himself with Chiyo's Jesus-no-Jutsu...

:focus: Anyhow, with all the slugs on the heal-bot mode, I doubt Kakashi will go down like he claimed. Seriously, he's not gonna die.

[Seraphiel]

The only thing that makes me sad is that we will get no chap next week :(


As for the chapter the only fun part was that we know pein makes use of dead bodies/he doesn't take over the living.

And that he can take over pretty much any dead body.

[sasuke123uchiha]

Far from over my dear paddawan learner, or haven't you learned? How many times that we've seen in Narutoverse the same old, "If I use this, I'll definitely gonna die" phrase? Hell, Lee done it, Chouji done it, Sasuke have done it, and they all lived.

Manga nowadays is so damn easy to predict.

lol i actully hope that kakashi dies *crosses fingers*

[Hidden Ninja]

Far from over my dear paddawan learner, or haven't you learned? How many times that we've seen in Narutoverse the same old, "If I use this, I'll definitely gonna die" phrase? Hell, Lee done it, Chouji done it, Sasuke have done it, and they all lived.

Manga nowadays is so damn easy to predict.

dont forget neji and getting stabbed through the chest and surviving.

[Rainz]

I really think Kakashi is done if not that's some major bs since he said it himself he's completely out of chakra which means death plus he's calling out to Obito and Rin.

I think Kakashi is ok with dying gets to join his loved ones and entrust the world to the younger generation.

[winchester20]

Pein uses dead bodies. I'm standing by my bet that when Naruto goes to hunt down and finish off Pein, Pein's going to have Jiraiya's body under his control. Don't know that he'd grab any from the battle in Konoha though, seeing as he has all these bodies being "fed" to him in the Rain.

I also think Kakashi isn't gonna kick the big one yet. As Erosannin pointed out, many a character has seen the "Light at the End of the Tunnel" only to be pulled back by someone at the last second.

[Murdock]

How is Naruto going to stop him when he's stuck at the Mountain with no way of communicating? I don't think Danzou plans on killing Tsunade in plain sight if at all. This situation is perfect because Tsunade's death could be staged to look as if she died in battle with Akatsuki. Then he would be the leading candidate for the job and no one would oppose him because not having a leader during war isn't a good idea.

Jiraiya put up a fight against 3 and won. Against all six he utterly failed. Kakashi isn't at Jiraiya's level yet. I don't know why your dissapointed. I never expected Kakashi to win. And if he did, it would only happen with a lot of help.

Well J-Man didin'T really fight Yahiko pain face to face ... his power quite surpass every other power we've seen so far ... plus J-Man wasn't that alone Pa and Ma came in handy


plus Kakashi won't die yet ... Kamui thing + 4 chapters ain't taht much of focus i expected

[mandelak]

we now know how he gets those bodies lol. so he has a factory full of freaking bodies. so maybe the real pain is inside there (inside that building) and that girl in the body bag is pains new body

[Murdock]

that girl in the bag is now summoning body ...

[mandelak]

thats what i meant by new body...

[fuuuuse]

I think kakashi will not die like this......
he is the feared genius copy kakashi, son of the white fang and the ninja who copied more than 1000 jutsu and kishi will give him more honorable ending...

[Arty]

What could be more honorable than this...

its Kakashis time to die.

Finally , a twist - naruto has bin progressing slowly but this! is awesome :D

[papfles]

That yamato reference is a bit conspicuous not to matter in the larger scheme of things.

Either he has something to do with Danzou or this is something Tsunade told him to do (like the tracking device he had in Naruto and Sakura and Sai). Maybe he can "listen in" on those conversations down there?

[Thistle]

That yamato reference is a bit conspicuous not to matter in the larger scheme of things.

Yamato is currently suspiciously absent, but leaving a note with your name on it in the base of someone you`re supposed to spy upon is probably not the smartest of ideas, so this could just be some joke by Kishimoto. But i agree that it is a bit too obvious for the reader to see to be just coincidence.

[oipotty]

doesn't he still have the hatake sword??? White chakra?

mebbe Danzou is Kakashi's father....

[S.Haze]

doesn't he still have the hatake sword??? White chakra?

mebbe Danzou is Kakashi's father....

No way.
The the sword you are talking about is broken (see Kakashi gaiden)
And the white fang isn't danzou since he is dead.

[Collateral]

yeah maybe kishimoto thought ppl will wonder where yamato is, so he just made a note that he is at work :P

i am not sure if kakashi will die yet i always hoped that yondaime gave kakashi a message for naruto before he went to fight the nine tails or at least that kakashi would tell him who his father was.
But shouldnt we see kakashis face before he dies? :) the moment he takes of his mask he will die, i am sure about that :P

i wonder what sasuke will do when he comes to konoha and its already such a mess, maybe he will fight danzo, cause the thing about destroying konoha never made sense to me. Itachi protected the village with his live, sasuke finds out and thinks oh ok than i am going to destroy it cause my brother gave his life to protect it x_X but thats a different topic.

with kakashi down and tsunade busy i guess the strongest one left is gai right? so he should really show up and save the day.

[Arty]

What should happen is a total shift in both the village power and its policy.

With Kakashi's generation being slaughtered by Pain what will remain are the new generation and old.

The Old will obviously rule and hopefully oldschool , badass , emotionless pre-war rules will govern the village.

This would make Sasuke's/Naruto's return to Konoha much more interesting ;)

[PirUnravel]

Ummmm... how much more obvious could this be:

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/424/03/

check out the top-left pane. look at his mask.

now check this out:

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/386/09/


pretty intense... it seems Kishi really wanted to be obvious with stuff for this chapter... the Yamato note... and now the mask.

[rasenproc]

wat are u trying to get at with the mask?

[PirUnravel]

Well... why would a ROOT member be wearing a mask that depicts the EMS face that has only been displayed in the minds of Itachi and Madara?


O_o

[Karin<3]

Lol at people nitpicking Naruto.

[Alpha from the desert]

Well actually as I comment in another thread, Danzou will pay the price for betrave Konoha, and Sasuke will kill him in revenge for ordering the anhilation of the Uchiha Clan

[rasenproc]

Well actually as I comment in another thread, Danzou will pay the price for betrave Konoha, and Sasuke will kill him in revenge for ordering the anhilation of the Uchiha Clan

he'll definitely pay. the question is... can saskue take on ROOT? cause they seem pretty loyal to danzou

[Seraphiel]

he'll definitely pay. the question is... can saskue take on ROOT? cause they seem pretty loyal to danzou

Lol ofc he can,any akatsuki can take root and sasuke is akatsuki++ lvl so yes he can.

[CheerUp]

I think Kakashi will be rescued. But he is definetely not hokage level. Not by far. Even the third would have put up a better fight.

My feeling is that currently Kakashi is too weak to remain too much time in the middle of the actions. He is not S level, due to his extremely low chakra levels. In the end, everything seems to get down to this thing. He may be a super intelligent person, but if he does not have the energy to keep up, he's a gonner.

At least he could have taken some soldier pills or something... just LAME.

I hope that if Kishi does want to kill Kakashi, he doesn't do it in this fight. I want to see a much stronger Kakashi die, and for a nobler purpose.
It's pathetic that 2 of the strongest Konoha shinobi have to die just to get a glimpse of Pain's powers. At this rate the village is bye bye.


Let's pray that Sasuke is the only mass-atacker type left in Akatsuki. Madara let's hope is the perfect shadow: can't be beaten, but can't attack, and Zetsu just a spy. Sharky can be handled.

But why do I have a feeling Madara is a lot stronger than Pain...

[galdem]

did anyone seem to notice that konan was in the rain village recieving those bodies from the rain ninja. And i also wonder what could be choji's suprise as pointed out by kakashi.

[S.Haze]

I think Kakashi will be rescued. But he is definetely not hokage level. Not by far. Even the third would have put up a better fight.

I disagree. Kakashi is hokage level and i'm pretty confident that he is as strong as Tsunade. Even Jiraiya said that he is definitely a hokage candidate.

My feeling is that currently Kakashi is too weak to remain too much time in the middle of the actions. He is not S level, due to his extremely low chakra levels. In the end, everything seems to get down to this thing. He may be a super intelligent person, but if he does not have the energy to keep up, he's a gonner.

I disagree. If Kakashi can defeat Hidan, Kakuzu and maybe Deidara why isn't he s-class? Last time I checked they were alls-class shinobi.

At least he could have taken some soldier pills or something... just LAME.

Lol yeah but Kishi would never do that.

I hope that if Kishi does want to kill Kakashi, he doesn't do it in this fight. I want to see a much stronger Kakashi die, and for a nobler purpose.
It's pathetic that 2 of the strongest Konoha shinobi have to die just to get a glimpse of Pain's powers. At this rate the village is bye bye.


I don't think Kakashi is going to die either maybe Gai or one of Tsunades slugs will help him. Also isn't sacrificing your life to help deliver vital information about the powerful leader of Akatsuki noble? I swear I remember Jiraiya doing something similar?

[blind]

I disagree. Kakashi is hokage level and i'm pretty confident that he is as strong as Tsunade. Even Jiraiya said that he is definitely a hokage candidate.

Being a Hokage could mean more than having strength. Kakashi is strong, I'll give him that, but to say he's on the level of a Hokage is a bit of a stretch.


I disagree. If Kakashi can defeat Hidan, Kakuzu and maybe Deidara why isn't he s-class? Last time I checked they were alls-class shinobi.

Last time I checked, Kakashi could barely hold off Kakuzu, if it weren't for Shikamaru he would have gotten killed by Hidan, and he could possibly defeat Deidara, only because he's got the Sharingan and can use Raikiri, much like Sasuke and his Sharingan and Chidori. So no, I wouldn't put them in the same category.

[Arty]

Kakashi is the strongest of his generation...

But hes nothing compared to the strongest of the current.

Hes not Hokage material ether. - An assassin like him could never be.

[S.Haze]

Being a Hokage could mean more than having strength. Kakashi is strong, I'll give him that, but to say he's on the level of a Hokage is a bit of a stretch.



Last time I checked, Kakashi could barely hold off Kakuzu, if it weren't for Shikamaru he would have gotten killed by Hidan, and he could possibly defeat Deidara, only because he's got the Sharingan and can use Raikiri, much like Sasuke and his Sharingan and Chidori. So no, I wouldn't put them in the same category.

He took out one of Kakuzus hearts and he was about to use MS on him.

[blind]

He took out one of Kakuzus hearts and he was about to use MS on him.

By sneaking up on him, big deal. In a head on fight, he wasn't even able to get close to him.

[Karin<3]

Kakashi is dead, live with it. Both the Jerman and kakashi died in order to pass on Pein's secret.

By sneaking up on him, big deal. In a head on fight, he wasn't even able to get close to him.

He's a fucking NINJA, so sneaking up on him is proving that you are a better shinobi then going roaro raor orarowrarara lazorz destroy.

[Thistle]

Kakashi is Hokage material because both Tsunade and Jiraiya said so (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/367/10/). Concerning this his actual skill level doesn`t matter for he is the choice of the current Hokage. Pain himself is giving him credit by taking him seriously as a threat. He has done many S-class missions and therefore is definitely S-class. And who else should replace him? Gai? His strenght doesn`t actually matter when it comes to Tsunade`s succession, there is currently no better choice. And i seriously doubt that Danzou could put up much of a fight in the defense of the village, unless he has been hiding some nasty surprises from us.

[letsrock0303]

did anyone seem to notice that konan was in the rain village recieving those bodies from the rain ninja. And i also wonder what could be choji's suprise as pointed out by kakashi.

That was a flash back. They were looking at the Pein mastermind thingy

Blaze that remains to be seen. Kakashi has almost dies loads of times

[blind]

He's a fucking NINJA, so sneaking up on him is proving that you are a better shinobi then going roaro raor orarowrarara lazorz destroy.

If it were that simple, we wouldn't be seeing all these fights. How many times have we seen in Naruto that an enemy was completely defeated based on a sneak attack, compared to the amount of times that we've seen a head to head fight?

[Sparda]

That doesn't make Kakashi a worse ninja because he can sneak lol. Most of you seem to be underestimating Kakashi of his fight against Pain. He might not look as strong as Previous hokages, but he is still a Hokage material.

Also There has been fights where sneaking and diversions decided the outcome of match, like Naruto vs Kakuzu.

[S.Haze]

By sneaking up on him, big deal. In a head on fight, he wasn't even able to get close to him.

Kakashi would still have used MS if Naruto and co. didn't arrive.
@your recent post:
If fights were just sneak attacks this manga would have ended a looooooooooooooooong time ago. And who would want to see someone get beat by a sneak attack?

[blind]

@your recent post:
If fights were just sneak attacks this manga would have ended a looooooooooooooooong time ago. And who would want to see someone get beat by a sneak attack?

Exactly, so in this series, being a ninja isn't about being stealthy, but being able to use powerful jutsus.

[Thistle]

It is elemental for any shinobi to keep his skills and jutsu a secret so basically every fight is decided by the element of surprise. And sneak attacks are seen as a basic technique by everyone, it`s just that if the initial element of surprise hasn`t defeated the adversary one has to face him directly. Among shinobi a sneak attack is nothing dishonorable and in the end only victory (or more so, the mission) matters.

And no one should count out Kakashi yet. A character of minor importance died "instead", and letting Pain kill another important and popular character this way would be repetitive. Pain`s reputation is already build up by killing Jiraiya, letting him kill Kakashi now would serve no purpose. And i doubt that Kishimoto got the balls to do it anyway.

[S.Haze]

Didn't Kishi say that Kakashis future is dark blue?
Would that mean he is gonna die?
Because the only other way for kakashis future to be dark blue is to take the sharingan away and if Kishi does that, thats going to basically ruin Kakashi as a character because thats what defines him from normal jounin.

[PirUnravel]

UHMMMM Was S. Haze the only one that noticed my illustrious post about the ROOT member's mask???


<_<'

[Seraphiel]

UHMMMM Was S. Haze the only one that noticed my illustrious post about the ROOT member's mask???


<_<'

I don't think its connected its just a mask with 4 eyes and srsly sasuke and madara are the last of their clan,at least i hope so,although a fanatic worshiping uchiha cult would be epic.

[S.Haze]

I don't think its connected its just a mask with 4 eyes and srsly sasuke and madara are the last of their clan,at least i hope so,although a fanatic worshiping uchiha cult would be epic.

I don't think pir i suggesting the guy with the mask is an uchiha but Danzou is since his followers are wearing a uchiha mask.

[Seraphiel]

I don't think pir i suggesting the guy with the mask is an uchiha but Danzou is since his followers are wearing a uchiha mask.

I know what he is suggesting and that's not an uchiha mask.

[S.Haze]

I know what he is suggesting and that's not an uchiha mask.

I never really meant an uchiha mask but a mask that has something to do with the uchihas.

[Seraphiel]

I never really meant an uchiha mask but a mask that has something to do with the uchihas.
Again I believe it has nothing to do with teh uchiha :D

[Karin<3]

If it were that simple, we wouldn't be seeing all these fights. How many times have we seen in Naruto that an enemy was completely defeated based on a sneak attack, compared to the amount of times that we've seen a head to head fight?

Way to completely miss the point or start a discussion, I don't care on what we would miss out, if a guy has the skill to stealth kill an aka member instead of going BELIEVE IT SWOOOOOOOSH, he is clearly a better shinobi then someone that yells and charges in like an idiot.

[Alpha from the desert]

Again I believe it has nothing to do with teh uchiha :D

Actually I think that its more like a simbolism, like a hidden message for us as readers, in order to keep in mind that Sasuke is still somewhere around, and it will be really kool that the guy of the mask would be Sasuke

[papfles]

Last time I checked, Kakashi could barely hold off Kakuzu, if it weren't for Shikamaru he would have gotten killed by Hidan, and he could possibly defeat Deidara, only because he's got the Sharingan and can use Raikiri, much like Sasuke and his Sharingan and Chidori. So no, I wouldn't put them in the same category.

Bit unfair towards kakashi imho.

he took out 1 heart (doesn't matter if it's in a team-setting or not, they are all "each other's weapons" at that time, and he used those to perfection).

Then he dodged a dual attack by hidan and kakuzu while protecting Ino and Chouji and then again having to defend Naruto against Kakuzu. And he still had his ms to use. So there's a very good chance that he would've done just fine against kakuzu.

[PirUnravel]

I predict nothing will happen next week at all. lolz ^_~

Sucks though... you would think that Kishi, with his team of writers/artists/authors, could have enough content ready to not have to randomly take weeks away from the releases. It makes me think that he is now desperately trying to come up with random content to throw into his money machine. <_<

Didn't he claim he already envisioned the whole story, down to the last page?

._.

[Herumor]

And no one should count out Kakashi yet. A character of minor importance died "instead", and letting Pain kill another important and popular character this way would be repetitive. Pain`s reputation is already build up by killing Jiraiya, letting him kill Kakashi now would serve no purpose. And i doubt that Kishimoto got the balls to do it anyway.
While I don't want him to die, the story seems like it's heading that way. Kakashi himself said he'd die if he used the MS since his chakra was so low he couldn't even transport a whole body. However, with Tsunade's slugs everywhere it's not out of the question for one of them too attach to him and heal him up at least enough to stay alive.

Again I believe it has nothing to do with teh uchiha :D
The only time we saw reference to the four eyed statue was in relation to Mandara and the EMS. People with the MS still only have a two eyed statue. And as the person wearing the mask asked if they should help out, I doubt it's Mandara or any other Uchiha since there are only two surviving Uchiha (at least as far as we know). Clearly Danzou is Mandara :rofl:

Way to completely miss the point or start a discussion, I don't care on what we would miss out, if a guy has the skill to stealth kill an aka member instead of going BELIEVE IT SWOOOOOOOSH, he is clearly a better shinobi then someone that yells and charges in like an idiot.
But if one completes the mission by yelling and charging in isn't it still a successful mission? In the end the mission is the most important thing and completing it the goal, so success weather it be by stealth or not doesn't really matter. Now assassination is a different matter entirely. That requires stealth:p

[Karin<3]

But if one completes the mission by yelling and charging in isn't it still a successful mission? In the end the mission is the most important thing and completing it the goal, so success weather it be by stealth or not doesn't really matter. Now assassination is a different matter entirely. That requires stealth:p

Finishing a mission with assassination is more effective and faster most likely :/

[Alpha from the desert]

Finishing a mission with assassination is more effective and faster most likely :/

You are right, even when assasination is fastest is not the best way to do so , a real Shinobi knows to evaluate the situation and take the course of action with less collateral effects, assasination brings more assasination. A real shinobi kills only when neccesary

[Seraphiel]

You are right, even when assasination is fastest is not the best way to do so , a real Shinobi knows to evaluate the situation and take the course of action with less collateral effects, assasination brings more assasination. A real shinobi kills only when neccesary

he meant if u need to kill some1 quiet assasination is the best,not to barge in and yell like a retard.

[CheerUp]

Disagree with Kakashi fans.
Kakashi is definetely a very strong shinobi, no one denies that, but let's keep things into context.

STRONG POINTS:
1. intelligence
2. battle experience
3. NO emotions
4. VAST array of jutsus
5. Sharingan

WEAK POINTS:
1. low chakra - doesn't matter that you know lots of jutsus ... if you can't use them extensively
2. Sharingan extended usage- for him this can easily become a disadvantage as it drains his already low chakra too rapidly. His Sharingan ability is practically limited to 2 anihilations of bodies, I think. (Pain has LOTS of them)


I think his character relies too much on Sharingan ... which doesn;t really fit him due to chakra usage.
Indeed he may be placed S class, but only due to his Sharingan, and only in 1-1 fights with people that have approximately the same skill and chakra.


Now when it comes to EXTRAORDINARY characters, he is extremely weak against them. Without Sharingan he is no match for any of the high level Aka.

I wanna state it again... the current Kakashi is WEAK against the current threats. All jounins from Konoha are, except maybe for Gai. Shika and my personal favourite Neji.

I hope Kakashi does not die in this fight. I really want to see him get stronger so that he deserves to come up in the future fights. His current participation is RIDICULOUS if we think that he actually was proposed as Hokage .... Can a Hokage put susch a small fight against 2 Pain bodies?

Don/t even mention that J-man killed 3 .... he was already old. I bet that if he were a bit younger he may really have had the opportunity to kill Pain. At least he could have withdrawed and live to fight again...


ONE MORE THINGIE:
Does Madara actually have offensive moves left? I mean of Sharingan type. Because if only Pain causes such a ruckus in Konoha, what would happen if Madara joined? We know he wants Konoha destroyed, but he didn't count on AKA being able to do that. This means that:
1. Maddie is indeed a pathetic shell of his former self (no offense in my opinion)
2. Pain does have a pathetic vulnerability ... one that Maddie knows and that makes him not count on Pain being able to crush Konoha.
What could it be?

[papfles]

2. Sharingan extended usage- for him this can easily become a disadvantage as it drains his already low chakra too rapidly. His Sharingan ability is practically limited to 2 anihilations of bodies, I think. (Pain has LOTS of them)

Remember that he used a rai bunshin which had already used up 50% of his chakra. If he then still has the chakra to pull off TWO kamui's, then he's in better shape than most predict. He has improved and will continue to improve (unless he dies) rapidly.

[CheerUp]

I agree papfles ... but still...
He used up all his chakra to:
1. temporarily disable a puppet.
2. bring NO HARM to the other Pain.
3. give Chouji a chance to take the info forward.


Let's get serious ... Kakashi is no match for 2 Pain bodies.
He should have taken A LOT of soldier pills ... he was a bit unprepared.

[winchester20]

Damn what's with all the Kakashi-hate? Atmosphere around here is feeling the way it did back when we had nothing but Sasuke to look at for issues and issues. And those of you who think that Kakashi has been shown to be weak by this fight with Pein, do not forget that Pein killed the Rain's former leader, the guy who actually gave the Sannin their name. Even Jiraiya was stunned when he heard that news. Pein's worse than fighting zombies. At least with them you can put a bullet in the brainpan and they'll stay down. With Pein, you've freaking got to completely destroy the body to stop it. If Kakashi had known what he knows now, I imagine he would have opened up with a Kamui right from the get go. But then, everyone would be screamin lame and we wouldn't have the nail-biting "Is Kakashi really gonna die!?"

[CheerUp]

Even with Kamui .... can he take on more than 2 bodies? :) Out of god knows how many ...

Indeed these are exciting times. I really enjoyed today's chapter.
Prolly Kakashi survivies .. but there is now way he can develop so fast that he can take one let's say 4 bodies ...

Something big is about to happen.

PS: Am I the only one who thinks that Pain's ability is a bit unappealing? I would have appreciated a lot more for Pain to be just one person with an extraodinary bloodline. I hope it will come to that ... but I don't think so.. If he is hiding after so many puppets, and goes to that much trouble not to show up ... he must have a ridiculous vulenrability :)

[KAKASHI10]

I think the code behind the frog is the people he meat in his travels that are in his books.

[naruto_fan_390]

that chapter was wack, i dont want kakashi to die. he has to pull it out somehow. or be saved by somebody.

[Itachi4ever]

hm so there's a possiblity that Kakashi is the next victim to leave the manga.....how sad. I actually liked him!! Oh is choji's dad is actually gone? and who was that girl they brought in?????:confused::confused:

[Gobi]

I believe that kakashi will most likely live via the cheesy heroic entry
i mean we still haven't seen Rock Lee Gai sai hinata Neji
Anko kiba and shino ( shino will most likely own i mean he was only in like 5 pages in all of shippuuden) i mean i could go on and on ..... yet on the other hand kishi will most likely kill of alot of other characters since he will most likely want to develop the story of other characters or so he can focus on sasuke


( first post :) )

[Karin<3]

Jesus fuck, Kakashi already died, blackout, over, dead. He won't be saved cause the whole point of the events is dying while passing on Pein's secret.

Next to die will be prob Tsunade as she will try to reach Naruto to tell him Pein's secret etc.

[winchester20]

I wouldn't mind seeing some more of Kiba/Akamaru and Hinata. Especially Hinata. She's been conspicuously quiet since the Timeskip.

Jeez Karin, you really have that whole bloodthirsty streak goin for you, don't ya?

[Gobi]

Jesus fuck, Kakashi already died, blackout, over, dead. He won't be saved cause the whole point of the events is dying while passing on Pein's secret.

Next to die will be prob Tsunade as she will try to reach Naruto to tell him Pein's secret etc.

meh .... he will die i just having a feeling he will have 1 last stand kinda like how jiraiya came back to life on pure "will" ........well i am really looking forward to a obito flashback

[Alpha from the desert]

:yo:meh .... he will die i just having a feeling he will have 1 last stand kinda like how jiraiya came back to life on pure "will" ........well i am really looking forward to a obito flashback

I am agree , probably there will be a flashback of kakashi with his sensei and his teammates, and there is a good chance for sakura to appear, but there is something that we cant forget, where did Pein went after leaving Kakashi behind ?
I think he went where the interrogation team is

[KAKASHI10]

:yo:

\\something that we cant forget, where did Pein went after leaving Kakashi behind ?


He look he was constipated so he maybe went to the bathroom:biggrin1:
Sorry for the joke.
On the serious side
easnt he one of the bodies that would look for information? so he went to other people to look for information

[nagato]

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/424/09/
wtf yuhiko pein just turns the other direction. and flys away lol thats like superman style if he where evil. kakashi doesnt really have anything to live for cause naruto doesnt need training from him.sakura is like beastly prob doesnt need anymore training. sasuke is just gone so he doesnt matter anymore. kakashi is done. unless of course kakashi lives i want him to get a major amazing boost in strength like has some special ability that he gets from having the white fang as his father. maybe white fang chakra??? or something with dogs like with frogs but thatd be kinda stupid just copying hermit mode. he needs more chakra mostly. he shouldnt need to use ms. he should have other jutsu that he has to use instead.

[Gobi]

yea you are right the only thing he really has to live for is his rivalry with gai lol.... i mean everything hes loved was taken from him ..... even jiraiyas pervy books ( hows dare you pein)



And it says Kakashi makes a Dying wish.... i mean nothing he said was a real wish more like statements like " this is the best i can do" and "well this looks like this is it for me...obito...rin"

[Seraphiel]

hm so there's a possiblity that Kakashi is the next victim to leave the manga.....how sad. I actually liked him!! Oh is choji's dad is actually gone? and who was that girl they brought in?????:confused::confused:

Its the new summoning body,u know that was a flashback.

[Thistle]

Kakashi is not dead yet, and no one should write him off. And as i already said, him dying would serve no purpose for the storyline. Sure, there is the possibility that he will die, but we had almost the same situation at the end of the last chapter, also with a really cool statement about Kakashi ("the last thing left for Kakashi is?"). It`s about the same now, and unless we see Kakashi`s dead body he isn`t dead yet, "Dying wish" or not. He might get saved. He might die for real. We shall see...

[Seraphiel]

Kakashi is not dead yet, and no one should write him off. And as i already said, him dying would serve no purpose for the storyline. Sure, there is the possibility that he will die, but we had almost the same situation at the end of the last chapter, also with a really cool statement about Kakashi ("the last thing left for Kakashi is?"). It`s about the same now, and unless we see Kakashi`s dead body he isn`t dead yet, "Dying wish" or not. He might get saved. He might die for real. We shall see...

I noticed that we where served jiraya copypasta from kakashi this chapter which was crap so I hope he doesn't die,well we shall see in 2 weeks.

[glaigas]

soo every1s talking about kakashi's MS like its no big deal

when the hell did we find out about kakashi's MS before this chapter?

ive read every chapter and i dont recall seeing it, anyways it was awesome

he's most likely in a coma.. but if not and he actually dies it would only further the power of Naruto. At first i was thinkin why would they kill off kakashi.. but really, what can naruto still learn from him.. nothing... if he dies and makes naruto's nine tails beast emerge it would be great... then again it would be better if naruto saw kakashi being hurt and then went crazy and ended up killing him by accident with his own powers... it could add a little story to the series.. but hey for all we know sasuke will come to the villiage and save kakashi just for him being his past teache

1 more thing..
how did Kakashi aquire the MS?

[rasenproc]

soo every1s talking about kakashi's MS like its no big deal

when the hell did we find out about kakashi's MS before this chapter?

ive read every chapter and i dont recall seeing it, anyways it was awesome

he's most likely in a coma.. but if not and he actually dies it would only further the power of Naruto. At first i was thinkin why would they kill off kakashi.. but really, what can naruto still learn from him.. nothing... if he dies and makes naruto's nine tails beast emerge it would be great... then again it would be better if naruto saw kakashi being hurt and then went crazy and ended up killing him by accident with his own powers... it could add a little story to the series.. but hey for all we know sasuke will come to the villiage and save kakashi just for him being his past teache

1 more thing..
how did Kakashi aquire the MS?

where have u been? look back when gaara got taken... and after they faught tobi. we dont know how he got it

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/276/02/

[mandelak]

it does make you wonder where yamato is. i think kishi put that purposely for us to think about that.

i think yamato may be listening, but i hope not. i want danzou's plans to succeed. if he fails that would be so shit. would be the biggest waste of time and panel space


most likely kakashi got it in the same way sasuke got his.

like i said when that chapter showing kakashi's sharingan for the first time was shown. it was most likely through emotions and feelings.

[Shippuuden42]

Naruto would never trust Danzou as Hokage as he wanted Sasuke killed. My question is why wasn't Danzou confronted after they found out about his plans from Sai. What did everyone think he wouldn't try it again?

Kakashi won't die just yet, its only been 3 chapters, if he is killed it will be a few months before he is finished off. He does have what it take to be Hokage by he is like Jiraiya and would turn it down. He doesn't have the Chakra levels as Naruto but his levels are higher than most people are giving him credit for. He tends to use high level techniques from the start to finish fights fast. Not being a Uchiha the Sharingan takes more of his Chakra away but uses it right away considering the level Akatsuki members are at. He used a clone losing 50% of his strength, reason why its a forbidden technique. It is understandable he would be tired but he may still get away with his life.

I would expect to find out how he got the Mangekyo before he dies.

[mandelak]

the elders would never elect kakashi as hokage. the only way he could be hokage is if tsunade gave him the position her self before she goes out to fight.

if it is left up to the elders im sure they would choose danzou over kakashi.

i have a feeling danzou will become hokage and things will start going downhill for konoha as a village.

naruto will then have to save the village from danzou and on top of that fight akatsuki.

i think danzou will use narutos love for the village against him just like he did to itachi.


to talk danzou up this much and have him fail already would be shit. i would like him to achieve his goal to be hokage

[Ashikaga]

I am just so perplexed by the lack of explanation as to what exactly happened to the nail that sure LOOKED like it had struck Kakashi in the last frame in 423. Did I miss something?

Edit : I realize now that I should have posted this in the 424 discussion thread. I just wondered if this would be dealt with in the upcoming chapter(s).

[KAKASHI10]

so what pain says in the second and third pictures of the left?
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/424/09/

[Murdock]

Kakashi is not dead yet, and no one should write him off. And as i already said, him dying would serve no purpose for the storyline. Sure, there is the possibility that he will die, but we had almost the same situation at the end of the last chapter, also with a really cool statement about Kakashi ("the last thing left for Kakashi is?"). It`s about the same now, and unless we see Kakashi`s dead body he isn`t dead yet, "Dying wish" or not. He might get saved. He might die for real. We shall see...

you're absolutely right ... His dead now is nonsence ... plus he have to get info about Kamui and i doubt that we will get it from someone else than Kakashi himslef ... plus from what Kishi stated it really didn't seem that he is gonna die only that something big is gonna happen to him ... but he can die, but IMO he won't but that doesn't matter

and the last line by Hissouburaiken = Text: Even in the depths of despair, his will burns bright!

nothing about Dying wish

[winchester20]

I can't see the council actually electing Danzou to be Hokage. Can't remember where it was I read it now of course, but I could swear that it was said that the position of Hokage was passed on to the next bearer of the new generation while he or she is in their prime. The Sandaime was the exception, not the rule. Danzou is 72 I think someone said? No way could he compete with Kakashi or any of the younger generation. When the Sandaime fought Oro, the ANBU who watched remarked that he was at a disadvantage against Oro because he was so old. And then there is Chiyo, but her and Sandaime were badass even though they were older than dirt, but as I said, I believe they were the exception, not the rule.

And even if Kakashi and Yamato and the other nin who might be considered for the position were all killed off, once Naruto returns and opens a can of butt-kick all over Pein, and does it right in front of the survivors of the village, no way would Danzou be picked over him.

[Murdock]

hmmm never hear anything from what you said ... nothing about rule of passing to other generation and Danzou 72? don't know that .. but it's probable plus your badass old people what about 92 years old Kakauzu and what about Madara ... Danzou is IMO powerful no doubt about that ... we just have to wait and see

[Sparda]

The problem is Naruto has too many unfinished business to become Hokage yet. The responsibilities of Hokage will hinder him too much i think.

[Ashikaga]

so what pain says in the second and third pictures of the left?
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/424/09/

He does not say anything. Those speech balloons just represent the sounds made by his actions (スッ/ Su! as he turns around, and ザッ/ Za! as he takes off into the air). :confused:

[KAKASHI10]

He does not say anything. Those speech balloons just represent the sound made by his actions (スッ/ Su! as he turns around, and ザッ/ Za! as he takes off into the air). :confused:


THANKS I do not speak Japaneses:confused:.

[S.Haze]

hmmm never hear anything from what you said ... nothing about rule of passing to other generation and Danzou 72? don't know that .. but it's probable plus your badass old people what about 92 years old Kakauzu and what about Madara ... Danzou is IMO powerful no doubt about that ... we just have to wait and see

It was said in the latest Kishimoto interview that Danzou is 72.

[Karin<3]

He does not say anything. Those speech balloons just represent the sounds made by his actions (スッ/ Su! as he turns around, and ザッ/ Za! as he takes off into the air). :confused:

*looks at location*, lolwut a jap guy on NC.

[licentious1]

The teaser at the end reads "on the cusp of death..." and Tsunade has her slugs out. Kakashi will live.

[boroz]

so what pain says in the second and third pictures of the left?
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/424/09/

He said "Hmm..."

[boroz]

I wonder why Danzou has to wait until the battle between Pains n Konoha calmed down.... that means he doesn't need Tsunade to die in order to become the next Hokage? Isn't he need to make sure that Tsunade die during Pains invasion? Damn im confusing with his strategies! Or Tsunade will eventually die by using KATSUYO's summoning n healing jutsu?? Aii this Chapter really make me confusing XD.

[S.Haze]

You shouldn't double post just edit your last one.
I think that Danzou didn't know Pain was gonna strike Konoha and he had a totally different plan to take over the hokage position thats why he is hiding until everything calms down.

[boroz]

You shouldn't double post just edit your last one.
I think that Danzou didn't know Pain was gonna strike Konoha and he had a totally different plan to take over the hokage position thats why he is hiding until everything calms down.

You are right, Danzou didn't know Pains gonna attack Konoha but im definitely sure that he knows Akasuki is coming for the 9tails. He must have planned ahead before Akasuki strike... and his plans are required the Akasuki invasion to make the some casualties in-term of Tsunade ANBU or Ninja sacrifice. Is that means Danzou is going to use root military forces to become Hokage or just wait until Tsunade die during invasion for the new Hokage election?

[Alpha from the desert]

You shouldn't double post just edit your last one.
I think that Danzou didn't know Pain was gonna strike Konoha and he had a totally different plan to take over the hokage position thats why he is hiding until everything calms down.


Hey Haze that comment is not a contradiction of your previous theroy Danzou=Madara ?? :confused:

[boroz]

I wonder how can Danzou is Madara? Since Madara was the one who said Danzou had ordered Itachi to eliminate the Uchiha Clan but Itachi was not strong enough to eliminate Uchiha Clan by his own n seek help from Madara...... Nevermind.... man im totally sick of Tobi=Danzou=Obito .= =.

In here I would predict Danzou isn't going to wait for Tsunade death n become elected by other 2 elders..... It seems Kishi wanted him to be a badass character and turn Leafs Village upside down... drawing as much badass as he could... make people hate him either in Naruto world or manga Reader.... Naruto and Friends gonna step aside and let Mr. Emo (Sasuke) bring him down.... later on, Sasuke gonna obtain a new title and change from Mr.Emo to Mr.Flogkiller Terminator

[Thistle]

I am just so perplexed by the lack of explanation as to what exactly happened to the nail that sure LOOKED like it had struck Kakashi in the last frame in 423. Did I miss something?

Edit : I realize now that I should have posted this in the 424 discussion thread. I just wondered if this would be dealt with in the upcoming chapter(s).

Hello Ashikaga, in case no one has said so yet: welcome to NC!

I don`t think that anyone will mind you asking in here...seems like Kakashi used MS to prevent the nail from hitting him. It isn`t clearly shown but Pain comments about it (more clearly in the trans from HisshouBuraiKen), although not even Pain is sure about it.

and the last line by Hissouburaiken = Text: Even in the depths of despair, his will burns bright!

nothing about Dying wish

Hah! Thanks for clearing that up...bet on good ole' Hisshou and his trans! Yes, there`s nothing about a dying wish in his translation.

[S.Haze]

Hey Haze that comment is not a contradiction of your previous theroy Danzou=Madara ?? :confused:

I know.
That theory was demolished by the fact that Danzou is 72.

[Alpha from the desert]

Does anyone know if there is an spoiler of manga 425 ??

[Sparda]

You know i was really curious about that "Yamato Works" message. First thing i did was to check the raw if there is something wrong with the translation. I thought it was translated from japanese to english. But to my surprise it wasn't. Kishi wrote it in English. He really wanted it to stand out and be noticed. Also why would such a message be on a Pillar? He either wanted to tell readers that "Yamato is on mission" or Yamato is gonna do something unexpected. Well the phrase "Yamato works" is really odd and out of context. I think we might see Yamato pulling something off next chapter.

[Alpha from the desert]

I would like to think that Yamato is inside the group of ANBU that is with Danzou and as you said is about to make a move soon

[Naru-Ichi]

Yamato is just a codename for him. His real name is Tenzou (or something like that).

Does anyone know if there is an spoiler of manga 425 ??

Spoilers don't usually come out until Tuesday, but since there is no chapter next week, it would probably be next Tuesday.

[S.Haze]

Yamato is just a codename for him. His real name is Tenzou (or something like that).



Spoilers don't usually come out until Tuesday, but since there is no chapter next week, it would probably be next Tuesday.

But on weeks like these people usually post fake spoilers to keep us entertained.

[B0ukun]

This next chapter is going to be interesting. Kakashi thinks he's going to die and it's going to be a tight squeeze if Kishi decides to spare the enigmatic shinobi. Yamato/Tenzou is probably on a mission so I don't expect him to show his face.

Kakashi passes out and expects Pein to finish him off. Pein continues on his attempt at killing Choji. Choji is forced to fight back and actually puts up enough of a fight to survive. Help arrives. Help arrives in the form of some unknown ninja who dies at the hands of Pein while Choji escapes.

Another Idea I have is that some of the Root members abandon Danzou in order to help save the village. IE Sai who has built friendships with the people of the village and believes in Naruto's dream for some reason. He may in fact be the help that arrives to help choji/protect Kakashi (if Kishi does something sensible and keeps the character alive)

[Seraphiel]

This next chapter is going to be interesting. Kakashi thinks he's going to die and it's going to be a tight squeeze if Kishi decides to spare the enigmatic shinobi. Yamato/Tenzou is probably on a mission so I don't expect him to show his face.

Kakashi passes out and expects Pein to finish him off. Pein continues on his attempt at killing Choji. Choji is forced to fight back and actually puts up enough of a fight to survive. Help arrives. Help arrives in the form of some unknown ninja who dies at the hands of Pein while Choji escapes.

Another Idea I have is that some of the Root members abandon Danzou in order to help save the village. IE Sai who has built friendships with the people of the village and believes in Naruto's dream for some reason. He may in fact be the help that arrives to help choji/protect Kakashi (if Kishi does something sensible and keeps the character alive)

Kakashi is already dead imho.

And what pein will kill him? the torso of asura?

Yahiko "flew" away.

[Gumatron]

Yamato works and other papers on the pillars look just like explosive tags :D

[Seraphiel]

Why is 80%(pulling number out of my ass) of this forum obsessed with the yamato reference it could have just been a well placed joke to keep u on ur toes for nothing.

And yamato outliving kakashi is just pure bs.

[papfles]

Why is 80%(pulling number out of my ass) of this forum obsessed with the yamato reference it could have just been a well placed joke to keep u on ur toes for nothing.

And yamato outliving kakashi is just pure bs.

Kishi has never wasted too many panels or references. Usually when he does something like this, it's an omen.

So having that particular view of the danzou-conversation with a yamato-reference is a bit too "peculiar" to be a coincidence.

[Seraphiel]

Kishi has never wasted too many panels or references. Usually when he does something like this, it's an omen.

So having that particular view of the danzou-conversation with a yamato-reference is a bit too "peculiar" to be a coincidence.

Or maybe he wants u to think about it since we wont get a chap next week.

[Gobi]

He defiantly put it there to make us think about it.... Yamato works... it most likely mean that they put it there when he was first created to show it was a successful experiment....
and as for Danzou become hokage you can garrentie that he will become Hokage ..
and i can see Naruto doing what Jiraiya did and going Abroad ( but if this happens it will most likely happen alot later) i also foretell another Time skip where naruto becomes older or like in his 20s later in the story .... like he did for shippuuden

[B0ukun]

Kakashi is already dead imho.

And what pein will kill him? the torso of asura?

Yahiko "flew" away.

He just passed out so far. He always passes out after using Mangekyou. Thats nothing new. And if there's no one there to actually deal the death blow, then this would be the cheesiest death in the series. Die's from using a jutsu against someone. meh! Kishi needs to show some respect.

[Seraphiel]

He just passed out so far. He always passes out after using Mangekyou. Thats nothing new. And if there's no one there to actually deal the death blow, then this would be the cheesiest death in the series. Die's from using a jutsu against someone. meh! Kishi needs to show some respect.

He used a jutsu that drained him so he died of overuse of ms.

[B0ukun]

very cheesy indeed. It's not the first time he's been drained from the usage of that jutsu. Like I said, it's a stupid death. Almost as stupid as Itachi dying from Ebola mid fight.

[Sparda]

We've seen Cyouji taking a pill that was supposed to kill him. But he didn't die. We've seen many dudes doing things and saying that they would certainly die if they do it, but they surprisingly don't die. Ohhhh i know why. Because its one of the most known Shounen tricks.... Super Uber thing that is supposed kill user but user stays alive....

[papfles]

Or maybe he wants u to think about it since we wont get a chap next week.

Also possible, but in any case, it serves a specific goal. Not something he just randomly put in there.

[B0ukun]

so paps whats your thoughts for 425

[papfles]

This is one of those chapters that can go anywhere.

I've said in the previous chapter already that I thought that the snails could come to Kakashi's rescue, and that still seems viable, especially with how they have been shown already (and Tsunade must have tremendous chakra since she's healing everyone with her own chakra O_O)

I don't know whether kishi will stick with kakashi or change visions again.

I think kakashi-save (duh), talk between Ino's dad and such, and Chouji arriving at Tsunade's (although I think that Pain would be arriving there too, to try and prevent his secret from spreading).

[Dream Catcher]

I think it's pretty obvious that Kakashi will get saved. And if not, then I give praise to Kishi for killing off important characters left and right (relatively speaking to all the deaths that happened throughout Naruto, amongst the "good guys") So Kakashi gets saved, or maybe he achieves some other level of Sharingan ?!?!?!

Pain seems a little bit like a cheater, having missiles flying out of his body and stuff, pretty scary, lol.

For next chapter I predict a flashback of Kakashi and how he obtained MS. It's a good time for flashbacks because it would develop his story, sorta, and then bam ! He's dead. Not in the mood for cliche rescues, like Gai kicking Pain's ass for example.

Side Note : Feeling I have that Gaara might appear soon.

[Thistle]

I think that Tsunade is putting an enormous strain upon herself and she may overexhaust herself, especially if she is also forced into a fight. And to me it looks like she is spending an enormous amount of chakra, she can`t go on with this for long. She may simply drop dead afterwards, i am expecting something like this to happen.

[papfles]

Side Note : Feeling I have that Gaara might appear soon.

hmm, that would be weird, unless the kage summit is at konoha, then I wonder why the raikage stayed put though.

I think that rai-team might show up too.

I think that Tsunade is putting an enormous strain upon herself and she may overexhaust herself, especially if she is also forced into a fight. And to me it looks like she is spending an enormous amount of chakra, she can`t go on with this for long. She may simply drop dead afterwards, i am expecting something like this to happen.

Indeed, that was an incredible panel though, the amounts of chakra that were just flowing out of her ^^

[Gobi]

Yea Tsunade is pretty bad ass... i mean i really dont see kakashi dieing i see Tsunade dieing in a Rampage kinda of thing since Pein killed Jiraiya i mean Tsunade will most likely do everything in her power to stop Pein

[White Snake 66]

Kakasi will get saved this is not a major event for him something huge has to happen to him, kisi said

[mandelak]

yahiko pain left the fight with kakashi so he might be on his way to find more people that know naruto. he may end up meeting with tsunade. i also her fightning in a not so good state. she will do good imo, but she will use her seal once to keep fightning and then will be out of chakra but will eventually die.

her death seems to be coming closer.

[xXJouninKakashiXx]

Excuses :P.



If Kakashi dies this way, it's quite pathetic...

Oh, and using MS on the nail was also really lame.

This chapter also seemed to be dragging on too much.

I'm not yet sure what to predict.

This is a rather old post, yet it describes my feelings. The fact Kishi took out Kakashi this way bothers me to no end. He should have died taking out both Pein bodies, if he died at all. This is just sad.

If Kakashi didn't die, then he's gonna be resting for a long while. He's used 4534534 chidoris and mangekyou twice. Ouch.

[JD021]

2 weeks damn that'll feel like forever.. i cant even predict anymore i wonder what will happen next..

wait as a matter fact i still predict in the next 10 chapters sai will do something awesome.. im still leaning on that

[blind]

Kakasi will get saved this is not a major event for him something huge has to happen to him, kisi said

Because him dying isn't a huge event...

[jiraiya san]

well first of all kakashi is not dead and is not going to die just yet.

My prediction is that kakashi will be save by one of the snails of tsunate or chouyi is going to run into sakura and he is going to tell her about the state that kakashi is in and she will save him.I also think that kakashi still has a purpose because in order for naruto to kill saske in the final battle saske needs to do something that probes to naruto that hes really not coming back to konoha and that something could be killing kakashi

This is what i think Ibiki's team found out about pain, that the real one is not there exactly like Jiraiya said but that's not all. Not only did they found out that the real one is not there but they know were his at that's why God realm,human and animal realm are going to stop them from spreading out his secret and before some one gets to were his at because it would mean the end of pain cause the jutsu his using is similar to Inos in a way that Allows the user to send its spirit energy into another body, and control them, but different because an like Inos jutsu he cant go back to its original body when ever he wants the only way for his real body and mind to came back to life is if one of the clones comes to where the real one. Sort of like narutos clones that when one of them returns, naruto gets to know what ever the clone experiences but the diffence is that pain comes back to his sense.

[Palindrome]

Because him dying isn't a huge event...

I think you're misinterpreting what he's saying. I think White Snake is trying to say that the battle Kakashi just fought was not epic enough to be his final battle... Blaze of glory and all that. He's a major character in the story and I agree that if he was going to die, it should be in a much more astounding battle than this.

Even Asuma had a pretty amazing battle with Hidan before he died.

I predict that Sai and/or Yamato are amidst Root and plan to stop him before he can do any harm. I also think that the ideas some of you guys have been saying about Kakashi being saved by Sakura or one of Tsunade's snails isn't far off at all.

I also like the idea of Gaara and the Sand nin showing up. Who knows what other villages have been keeping tabs on Akatsuki movements. But it does seem a bit far fetched, though I don't think anyone expected them to show up when Sasuke was being taken by the Sound.

[the lost shinobi]

Gaara is a kage. The well being of his villiage comes before that of another villiage. He would never leave his villiage to help another one. It takes a very large scale situation for the kage of his villiage to fight, why would he then go to another persons villiage especially when Suna is not affected. Gaara will be staying put

[Gobi]

Gaara is a kage. The well being of his villiage comes before that of another villiage. He would never leave his villiage to help another one. It takes a very large scale situation for the kage of his villiage to fight, why would he then go to another persons villiage especially when Suna is not affected. Gaara will be staying put

I disagree Gaara will most likely show up... i mean Konoha did save his life if not gaara Temari and The puppet guy for sure...... dont be surprised by Konohamru and his gang playing a vital role in all this to...

[Palindrome]

Gaara is a kage. The well being of his villiage comes before that of another villiage. He would never leave his villiage to help another one. It takes a very large scale situation for the kage of his villiage to fight, why would he then go to another persons villiage especially when Suna is not affected. Gaara will be staying put

These two villages have a close alliance with one another. And I would say that Pein attempting to destroy Konoha is not only a large scale situation, but would turn out to greatly effect the other hidden villages. Akatsuki has many enemies, and if your enemy attacks your ally, you'll probably go to bat for them.

Really it would be in the Sand's best interest to stop Pein.

But I still think it's highly unlike, just saying it would be neat because I think Gaara is super duper.

[the lost shinobi]

I disagree Gaara will most likely show up... i mean Konoha did save his life if not gaara Temari and The puppet guy for sure...... dont be surprised by Konohamru and his gang playing a vital role in all this to...

Just because Naruto and co saved his life doesn't mean he's going to abandon his villiage. Gaara's first responsibility is to his villiage not to Konoha. If he wants to help Konoha he'll send other shinobi on a mission but he will stay behind. The Kage does not go on missions. The Kage leads the villiage and protects the villiage when the time arises. He doesn't fight outside the villiage because that would leave the villiage open to attack and politically unstable.

Konohamru and his gang? you mean the 3 kids who aren't even chuunin. jesus come on what can they do?

[Gobi]

Just because Naruto and co saved his life doesn't mean he's going to abandon his villiage. Gaara's first responsibility is to his villiage not to Konoha. If he wants to help Konoha he'll send other shinobi on a mission but he will stay behind. The Kage does not go on missions. The Kage leads the villiage and protects the villiage when the time arises. He doesn't fight outside the villiage because that would leave the villiage open to attack and politically unstable.

Konohamru and his gang? you mean the 3 kids who aren't even chuunin. jesus come on what can they do?
hm i dont know they are the same age naruto was when the village first got attacked they are most likely not completely worthless i mean no shit they cant match up to pein but in a search and rescue they can be vital to bring injured ninjas to safety and come on how is gaara leaving his village so out of reach zomg all the sudden kishi makes everyone play their roles to the dime do you not remember what the ranked missions were when first explained the highest rank required the Hokage himself to do the mission now i dont know anything more urgent then saving a village from the verge of destruction and Akatsuki has no plans to attack the sand since they already have gaaras jinchuurikin so he can easily come if he wants to

[nagato]

Just because Naruto and co saved his life doesn't mean he's going to abandon his villiage. Gaara's first responsibility is to his villiage not to Konoha. If he wants to help Konoha he'll send other shinobi on a mission but he will stay behind. The Kage does not go on missions. The Kage leads the villiage and protects the villiage when the time arises. He doesn't fight outside the villiage because that would leave the villiage open to attack and politically unstable.

Konohamru and his gang? you mean the 3 kids who aren't even chuunin. jesus come on what can they do?

konohamru is beast did everyone forget that hes the grandson of the 3rd hokage who was 1 of the strongest shinobi ever. his uncle was asuma who is also very strong shinobi. konohamru is deff gonna be really really strong just like naruto was. never giving up and stuff he is basically young naruto.

[Gobi]

konohamru is beast did everyone forget that hes the grandson of the 3rd hokage who was 1 of the strongest shinobi ever. his uncle was asuma who is also very strong shinobi. konohamru is deff gonna be really really strong just like naruto was. never giving up and stuff he is basically young naruto.

it would be pretty sick is Konohamaru learns to summon enma

[the lost shinobi]

hm i dont know they are the same age naruto was when the village first got attacked they are most likely not completely worthless i mean no shit they cant match up to pein but in a search and rescue they can be vital to bring injured ninjas to safety and come on how is gaara leaving his village so out of reach zomg all the sudden kishi makes everyone play their roles to the dime do you not remember what the ranked missions were when first explained the highest rank required the Hokage himself to do the mission now i dont know anything more urgent then saving a village from the verge of destruction and Akatsuki has no plans to attack the sand since they already have gaaras jinchuurikin so he can easily come if he wants to

show me when any other kage has left his villiage to fight for another villiage. The kage's job is to protect his villiage. Other shinobi perform missions, that is their job. The Kage has his job and the lesser shinobi have their job. I didn't see Tsunade leaving to save Gaara herself even though Suna and Konoha were good allies.

And I assume when you mentioned Konohamaru playing a big role, big would include fighting, which is why I disagreed. Other than that the only thing they could do is probably ferry off injured ninja and lead civilians away from harm

konohamru is beast did everyone forget that hes the grandson of the 3rd hokage who was 1 of the strongest shinobi ever. his uncle was asuma who is also very strong shinobi. konohamru is deff gonna be really really strong just like naruto was. never giving up and stuff he is basically young naruto.

In the long run he'll probably be good, but that's not what I was debating. I was talking about here and now

[Gobi]

[QUOTE=the lost shinobi;750703]show me when any other kage has left his villiage to fight for another villiage. The kage's job is to protect his villiage. Other shinobi perform missions, that is their job. The Kage has his job and the lesser shinobi have their job. I didn't see Tsunade leaving to save Gaara herself even though Suna and Konoha were good allies.


Touche never the less Gaara will do something to help even if he doesnt go him self Yea konohamaru i never said him fighting he would get Wrecked..... he will just pick up peeps and take them to a healer or something ..... ((( maybe he save kakashi LOL!!!!))) but yea Pein needs to be nerfed or they need to spread them apart cause 1v1 They seem pretty weak i mean the one that kakashi "killed" jiraiya also killed even tho they are both extremely strong im just saying Pein isnt invincible as long as they can manage to spread them apart ......... it seems like they run in 2 man cells

[nagato]

show me when any other kage has left his villiage to fight for another villiage. The kage's job is to protect his villiage. Other shinobi perform missions, that is their job. The Kage has his job and the lesser shinobi have their job. I didn't see Tsunade leaving to save Gaara herself even though Suna and Konoha were good allies.

And I assume when you mentioned Konohamaru playing a big role, big would include fighting, which is why I disagreed. Other than that the only thing they could do is probably ferry off injured ninja and lead civilians away from harm



In the long run he'll probably be good, but that's not what I was debating. I was talking about here and now

well right now hes prob like naruto was vs uh kiba and neji without the kyuubi part. even though seems stupid and useless when he actually uses his brain he can do so much with strategy but idk if he is or not we havent seen him in ahwile. yes i said ahwile.

[the lost shinobi]

well right now hes prob like naruto was vs uh kiba and neji without the kyuubi part. even though seems stupid and useless when he actually uses his brain he can do so much with strategy but idk if he is or not we havent seen him in ahwile. yes i said ahwile.

we've never even seen him fight, use any decent jutsu or were given any clue to his abilities. And you expect him to do something in this battle at a genin level. Even Naruto with his Kyuubi as a genin couldn't do anything

[Veni]

Reason why Gaara will not show up in Konoha rescue mission is not becouse he is a Kage, imo.
Its just that even if he somehow actually found out about Konoha being ravaged, if I'm not mistaken it took 3(or 2, not that it matters) days for Team 7 + Temari to cover the distance. So, first, Gaara would have to be informed. That would have to take time, since they don't have phones (funny, they have wireless communication devices, but no phones T_T). Second, I don't see him being as fast as Naruto, Sakura, Kakashi or Temari, so when he finally shows up in front of Konoha, it is pretty much all over.
That Cloud team with message of Kage summit has MUCH bigger chance of showing up in this attack on village.

[rydhel1016]

Hello. Here's what I think.

Kakashi wont die. At least not yet. Whatever technique he is trying to do to support Chouji, he wont be able to complete, therefore he wont be using whatever lethal amount of chakra he's planning to use. This is to give Chouji the spotlight (thanks to his "Watch Me" message to his dad) in the next issue.

Pein will of course fail to stop Chouji and be forced to retreat.

Then, Sasuke arrives.

[Murdock]

No ... you didn't understand .. Kakashi used his MS to vanish that missle that was attacking Chouji ... he completed it ... but used all of his chakra that's why he might die ...

but IMo he won't since he has work to do ... Kaumi thing the most

[dakmat]

What if Kakashi will use the last of his MS and will eventually blind his sharingan eye? It may buy him some time until backup comes. I hope Guy will be there in time to save Kakashi. By the way, this week sucks coz there's no Naruto episode.

Hey redhyl1016, Don't wait for Sasuke coz he's not coming. Cloud country is just too far.

[sasuke123uchiha]

What if Kakashi will use the last of his MS and will eventually blind his sharingan eye? It may buy him some time until backup comes. I hope Guy will be there in time to save Kakashi. By the way, this week sucks coz there's no Naruto episode.

Hey redhyl1016, Don't wait for Sasuke coz he's not coming. Cloud country is just too far.

bringin that up i really want to see sasuke owning the cloud ninjas:(

[zetsu]

its too hard to stand with pain for now, i believe in the end naruto will revenge on pain for konoha's sake. maybe kishi build the story that way,, and sasuke will end his hatred of konoha after kill danzou, n his gonna make a deal with uchiha madara.

my prediction for the next chapter is battle of pains with tsunade(omg, that old lady is too slow) with konoha's elite help. chouji will come after the tough battle.
sasuke n hawk is otw to konoha, nobody knows that killer bee is survived.


gosh, is kakashi goin to die??

[Murdock]

What if Kakashi will use the last of his MS and will eventually blind his sharingan eye? It may buy him some time until backup comes. I hope Guy will be there in time to save Kakashi. By the way, this week sucks coz there's no Naruto episode.

Hey redhyl1016, Don't wait for Sasuke coz he's not coming. Cloud country is just too far.

well Kishi described Kakashi's future as dark blue that smehow foretold that he is gonna loose his sharingan IMO ... i thought he will loose it from that nail but know ... noone knows ... so far his sharingan is still capadle of MS ... not blind at this moment and since he is about to faint/die/use whatever you think that leaves Sharingan untouched for now ... we just have to wait

only one who's gonna die for sure is Tsunade

[ACPRO]

kinda lame though how the strongest military power in the narutoverse is being taken out by one guy. Very very pathetic indeed.

Though whoever said, "they have wireless devices but no phones" made me LOL. that was the biggest fail in the mangas plot.

[KAKASHI10]

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/424/12/

what that building says?
and who are those 2 bodies of pain?
So the manga has bad tranlation?

[Thistle]

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/424/12/

what that building says?
and who are those 2 bodies of pain?
So the manga has bad tranlation?

It is the place where the captive rain nin is being interrogated, and it looks like Pain wants to prevent them from finding out about him. A translation for the sign is not necessary imo. And there are always different translations of each chapter, some better than others. Still, all the translation are being done by dedicated fans, among them people who have done it for years.

[the lost shinobi]

It is the place where the captive rain nin is being interrogated, and it looks like Pain wants to prevent them from finding out about him. A translation for the sign is not necessary imo. And there are always different translations of each chapter, some better than others. Still, all the translation are being done by dedicated fans, among them people who have done it for years.

hey you think maybe Ino's dad is going to be killed? What with those two bodies being in the interrogation building. Maybe they are going to kill the other members of the previous Ino-Shika-Cho trio. Would be pretty devastating to Chouji and Ino. Shika already had his moment when Asuma died, but those two weren't as affected as Shika was. Maybe this is what we'll be seeing soon. The systematic destruction of the older generation.

[JD021]

Ummmm... how much more obvious could this be:

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/424/03/

check out the top-left pane. look at his mask.

now check this out:

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/386/09/


pretty intense... it seems Kishi really wanted to be obvious with stuff for this chapter... the Yamato note... and now the mask.

i like how u noticed that good shit.. but what concerns you about it .. the man behind th mask or that the uchiha have remembered that face/mask and danzo has a root member with it?

[Thistle]

hey you think maybe Ino's dad is going to be killed? What with those two bodies being in the interrogation building. Maybe they are going to kill the other members of the previous Ino-Shika-Cho trio. Would be pretty devastating to Chouji and Ino. Shika already had his moment when Asuma died, but those two weren't as affected as Shika was. Maybe this is what we'll be seeing soon. The systematic destruction of the older generation.

Oh i overlooked that Ino's dad is also there...sure, he is in danger. But i guess that the first to meet Pain will be Shizune and Ibiki...i am almost sure that there will be casualties. Pain will push them aside to get to the chamber where the prisoner is interrogated and he will most likely try to kill anyone who might have gotten some information about him, including that rain nin himself, and anyone who might step into his way.

I am almost sure that we will be seeing the last of the Sannin pass away during this battle, some more members of the old generation may also die, but Kishimoto shouldn`t overdo it with losses for Konoha. After all Pain is just one person despite his 6 bodies. The older generation is actually not of great importance to the storyline so Kishimoto may kill some of them "along the way" to affect the younger generation this way. But not too many of them, it simply gets repetitive, and he need not demonstrate Pain's powers any further.

[Palindrome]

we've never even seen him fight, use any decent jutsu or were given any clue to his abilities. And you expect him to do something in this battle at a genin level. Even Naruto with his Kyuubi as a genin couldn't do anything

Ummm.... Naruto is technically still a Genin... >.>

[Erotique]

Ummm.... Naruto is technically still a Genin... >.>

But Naruto is theoretically a Jounin or above... >.>

[the lost shinobi]

Ummm.... Naruto is technically still a Genin... >.>

not technically, he is a genin. I know but he's a genin who's been trained by Kakashi and Jiraiya. He's also been a ninja for 3 years. not a lot but's 3 more years than Konohamaru who just graduated and is being trained by Ebisu. Ebisu<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Kakashi+Jiraiya

[Thistle]

Ebisu<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Kakashi+Jiraiya

Lol...i didn`t think of this until now that you said so...poor Konohamaru :p

And Naruto doesn`t qualify for Jounin yet, he is lacking in certain areas and Jounin usually got at least 2 elements. It`s hard to classify Naruto though for very few Genin got Uber-S-class jutsu :D

[naruto_fan_390]

naruto may not have two elements, but he could be the strongest ninja in the village. which would put him on the jounin level or even higher really more like a kage.

[Thistle]

naruto may not have two elements, but he could be the strongest ninja in the village. which would put him on the jounin level or even higher really more like a kage.

Simply imagine Naruto as the leader of a team...a chunin can be selected as a team leader, and Naruto would most probably fail at this. So what i am saying is, despite his strong jutsu Naruto doesn`t qualify for Jounin.

[the lost shinobi]

Simply imagine Naruto as the leader of a team...a chunin can be selected as a team leader, and Naruto would most probably fail at this. So what i am saying is, despite his strong jutsu Naruto doesn`t qualify for Jounin.

They mean he is jounin level when we consider his fighting ability. But I do agree that Naruto isn't much of a leader type

[Thistle]

They mean he is jounin level when we consider his fighting ability. But I do agree that Naruto isn't much of a leader t