Naruto 424 Spoiler Discussion [Archive]

boszz

11-04-2008, 04:15 PM

jezzz i dont know ...another mistake from kishi now he change kakashi's MS and its too soon to destroy yahiko body since thats the most important element in pain character.. so i dont think kishi would get rif off him so soon;/
1 spoiler -- sage mode another "secret jutsu" and then hirashin at once?? jezz..
2 spoiler it takes 3 days from sona to konoha and the battle between pain and konoha takes about hours so it too soon for them to arrive to konoha;/

the last one i dont wanna even comments some shitty google translations shouldnt be put there

about the pict
http://www.totalabsolute.com/fakepic.jpg

naruto reader

11-04-2008, 04:21 PM

the last one i dont wanna even comments some shitty google translations shouldnt be put there

I did say i couldn traslate it and u asked for a skript, its all i could do man.Kishi has made mistakes recently but i gota agree its a very clear scan if its real, so its probably a fake, but it got me exited sorry if its a fake. DONO YET THOUGH. And i dono there are still 4 more pein bodies, and come on kahona is like the usa of the narutoverse u dont think they can take out a couple of the bodies.

Thistle

11-04-2008, 05:24 PM

The pic looks like a fake to me...

And i don`t trust a long script coming out on monday or tuesday. To be honest i don't trust any of the current spoilers. The one that i posted sounds a bit more believable than the others but i won't bet on it either.

Seraphiel

11-04-2008, 05:31 PM

Thistle

11-04-2008, 05:34 PM

No need to be sorry when talking about a crap spoiler. Notice that i said that i don`t trust any of the current spoilers. But just compare the last one to the others that have been posted so far...

Seraphiel

11-04-2008, 05:38 PM

Nah I apologized cuz I didn't want my post to sound offensive.

And I srsly hope kakashi beats pein cuz if not its a replay of jman fight.

ANBUMike

11-04-2008, 05:42 PM

Nah I apologized cuz I didn't want my post to sound offensive.

And I srsly hope kakashi beats pein cuz if not its a replay of jman fight.

Kakashi WILL NOT beat pein.

It is Naruto's duty to kill pain, that is why he is training.

Seraphiel

11-04-2008, 05:59 PM

Kakashi WILL NOT beat pein.

It is Naruto's duty to kill pain, that is why he is training.

He must beat yahiko pein or he will die and naruto will prolly fight Nagato.

Thistle

11-04-2008, 06:03 PM

Would only be good if Pain gets weakened before his fight against Naruto, losing one or the other body and not being able to get new ones before he meets Naruto. Oro and Itachi were seriously weakened when they fought Sasuke, Naruto deserves equal treatment with his opponent.

Naru-Ichi

11-04-2008, 06:07 PM

But why would we want Naruto's opponent to be weakened; at least then it would make him seem stronger than Sasuke (which I believe he is) if he beats him..

Thistle

11-04-2008, 06:14 PM

I don't expect that to happen, Kishimoto's preference of Sasuke is too obvious. I was just saying that it would only be fair, you know...but on the other hand if Naruto faces full-power Pain and defeats him then that would make it seem like Naruto has closed the gap between him and Sasuke, and i will only believe that Kishimoto is willing to make that happen when i see it with my own eyes.

mandelak

11-04-2008, 06:42 PM

i think they are all fake. but i some how believe kakashi will activate his MS. and some back will come. that much is possible

raugaj08_

11-04-2008, 10:45 PM

The pic is fukn fake! you can tell from the style of the drawing... and also Kakashi's eyes does not bleed when using MS... fan made...

Murdock

11-05-2008, 04:39 AM

well if Kakashi dies which i doubt then i don't get why Kishi said he will focus on him and especially on Kakashi than Sakura if those 3 chapter was that intense focus wow :D

no i think he isn't dead just as you said Separiel ... thnx for spoiler

papfles

11-05-2008, 06:19 AM

If that last spoiler, about kakashi-pain is true, then wtf... seems like an incredibly fast "kakashi loses"-scenario.

yasuo

11-05-2008, 07:12 AM

If that last spoiler, about kakashi-pain is true, then wtf... seems like an incredibly fast "kakashi loses"-scenario.

if he realy wants to focus on kakshi, than i doubt that he will die... especially it would be conflichtig, IMO. why he would take kakashi as a pain and not jiraya?
so, at the moment, i don't think it's true.

fake kakashi

11-05-2008, 07:27 AM

It's fake..
I knew

fake kakashi

11-05-2008, 07:41 AM

Kakashi will be the next Hokage, so he will kill pain, madara, zetsu n sasuke off couse,

yasuo

11-05-2008, 07:48 AM

Kakashi will be the next Hokage, so he will kill pain, madara, zetsu n sasuke off couse,

well, i don't know which manga you read but it's definitely not naruto :biggrin1:
that he could become the next hokage is true but the other things are very doubtable

mandelak

11-05-2008, 07:57 AM

i like the kakashi pain one. tomorrow or later tonight we should get some confirmed ones

Thistle

11-05-2008, 09:19 AM

Looks like the one where Chouji's dad dies protecting Kakashi and Kakashi uses MS will get confirmed...

Seraphiel

11-05-2008, 09:42 AM

Looks like the one where Chouji's dad dies protecting Kakashi and Kakashi uses MS will get confirmed...

It already is.

And wth couldn't kakashi just die in this chapter,I bet some1 will save him in the next.

Thistle

11-05-2008, 09:52 AM

Well that`s called a cliffhanger :p Doesn`t surprise me one bit...

But someone will die, Chouji's dad, and i am sure that this sacrifice means that Kakashi will survive this.

Seraphiel

11-05-2008, 09:55 AM

Lol @chouji's dad dying it was so wtf for me,he is a worthless char why kill him off?

Couldn't kakashi just use ms on peins body and snap him in half.

He says he doesn't have enough chakra for the whole body,just snap him in half ffs.

fake kakashi

11-05-2008, 10:08 AM

Bravo Kakashi,
the next Hokage of konohagakure,

Thistle

11-05-2008, 10:24 AM

Lol @chouji's dad dying it was so wtf for me,he is a worthless char why kill him off?

Because he is a character of minor importance, usually charcters of the first tier don`t get killed off in shounen. Kakashi dying would show that Kishiomoto is willing to forget the "usual" rules of Shounen, now he is sticking to the beaten path.

PirUnravel

11-05-2008, 11:26 AM

Kakashi used MS to warp nail.
Pain kills Choza.
Tsunade and Konan fight.

HOLY SHIT!!! The example I gave the other day of a typical chapter turned out to be dead on!!! Choza really dies!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?

[bows]

Seri

11-05-2008, 12:22 PM

Noooo Kakashi can't die!
And either way,there's still Gai with his dynamic entry!
It would be really fitting for him,to come rushing in,saving Kakshi or even dying for him.
What would kakashi's death mean? Naruto already lost Jiraya, Shikamaru Asuma, and Chouji now his Dad.Those deaths had a meaning since it was the impulse for the younger Generation to become serious. I think Kakashi has something bigger left for him to do. He still has a special meaning for Sasuke after all. And who knows,Chouza might still be rescued by Tsunade...
Though I can imagine Kishi killing of many of the older Generation,leaving only the youngsters,the new Generation.

Hyugumaki

11-05-2008, 12:44 PM

Because he is a character of minor importance, usually charcters of the first tier don`t get killed off in shounen. Kakashi dying would show that Kishiomoto is willing to forget the "usual" rules of Shounen, now he is sticking to the beaten path.

That is if Kakashi doesn't die using up all his chakra to protect Chouji from Pein. Maybe we'll see someone else jump into the fray and protect Chouji and thusly save Kakashi ....

... or not. Maybe this is how Sakura will have to grow up, dealing with both Kakashi AND Tsunade's death.

raugaj08_

11-05-2008, 12:52 PM

got a bad feeling bout this... this could be the end of kaka-san... hes last line 'this is it for me... obito... rin...' really hit me...
proceeds with a flashback of kakashi's past? then Death?

emrahsungu

11-05-2008, 12:58 PM

why does a person die when he-she deplets all chakra? i mean lots of ppl run out of chakra and did not die

boszz

11-05-2008, 01:27 PM

why does a person die when he-she deplets all chakra? i mean lots of ppl run out of chakra and did not die

but theres some ammount of chakra that cant be used.....

thats what is using CS ..the chakra you normally dont have access to (thats why shorten sasuke's lifespam)

papfles

11-05-2008, 01:34 PM

why does a person die when he-she deplets all chakra? i mean lots of ppl run out of chakra and did not die

You can run out of chakra and not be able to fight.

You can run out of chakra and go over the top (kakashi after using MS the first time).

And you can run out of chakra, because you accessed and used up everything. You need chakra to breathe - walk - move your muscles. Consider it the "blood", "the vitamins", "whatever humans need to keep going".

Too much gone => dangerous

Even more gone => dead ^^

dharq

11-05-2008, 01:38 PM

you don't die from running out of chakra usually.. but when you're trapped in rubble by Pein and run out of chakra, um, there's not a high chance you're going to live.

Unless you're Sasuke, of course.. then your sharingan would improve, and gain a new ability to completely heal you -and- replenish your chakra while drowning your opponent in a vat of vasoline... All compliments of Kishi. ;)

papfles

11-05-2008, 01:40 PM

you don't die from running out of chakra usually..

If it's completely depleted, then: yes you do :p

dharq

11-05-2008, 01:41 PM

If it's completely depleted, then: yes you do :p

true, but you usually pass out/go unconscious before that point.. kinda like if you try to hold your breath to kill yourself.

papfles

11-05-2008, 01:44 PM

Indeed. The biggest problem for shinobi being that they usually have a trick that will push them over the edge.

Btw: I predict someone intervening on kakashi's behalf again. (this time Gai or Tsunade... although I want neji to fight this Pain tbh). No way that he's going to die the exact same way that Jiraiya died.

Xxi

11-05-2008, 01:52 PM

This is just beating a dead horse. But on the fake picture. Anyone else notice how kakashi has six fingers on his left hand. And also I understand pain is hardcore. But if I were getting MS'd, I would have a "=|" expression on my face. My two hits at the dead horse.

Teh Goomba

11-05-2008, 02:35 PM

the missile is fired

kakashi: but I have to help the chouji to make a report! That's the most important thing.

missile hones in on the fat bastard

LOL @...

"the" Chouji!

Fat bastard! His father is gone! It is sooooo true! :rotfmao:

alimujtaba786

11-05-2008, 02:46 PM

I know i am bad ... Kakshi is dyeing in next manga due to over use of m.s ... Depleting his chakra ....... *sigh .......... Kishi if he dies i will neva forgive u !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Plzzz kakashi needs slugg'n ......

Murdock

11-05-2008, 02:56 PM

i don't see him dying ... it's still the same Kishi said he will focuson him ... if 5 chapters is focus what is zillions chapters about Sasuke .... hmm

NarutoforHokage

11-05-2008, 04:04 PM

If Kakashi does die, it is an honarable way to go out at least, but i still say a slug will reach right in time. Also, is Kakashi planning on taking out both the missle and Pain? Also we may see a team come and help Kakashi so Pain doesnt give a finishing blow

CaptainWolf8

11-05-2008, 04:08 PM

i don't see him dying ... it's still the same Kishi said he will focuson him ... if 5 chapters is focus what is zillions chapters about Sasuke .... hmm

A really bad gay hentai obsession... or something...

S.Haze

11-05-2008, 04:14 PM

Seems like the spoiler of Kakashis chakra depleting is true so this chapter looks good.

Hyugumaki

11-05-2008, 04:27 PM

I'm impressed, it seems as though Kishi is going to kill of Kakashi. It's sad, but definitely an interesting twist in then story. I'm curious to see the reaction when people learn he dies.

The only thing that can save him is a slug pumping chakra into him.

mandelak

11-05-2008, 05:06 PM

i translated the list my self.

the rest of the page is a little to much for me to understand

first 5 are obvious

6 - haruno sakura
7 - hyuuga neji
8 - Gaara
9 - Rock Lee
10 - Uchiha Itachi
11 - Hyuuga Hinata
12 - Haku
13 - maito gai
14 - Temari
15 - yondaime hokage
16 - Deidara
17 - kiba
18 - (gekkou - not sure if this is right) hayate
19 - jiraiya
20 - aburame shino

akc12

11-05-2008, 05:23 PM

As much as I want Kakashi to become the next Hokage, I think it's Danzou who will take that spot. We see that he's doing something from the pics. If Tsunade dies which I think will happen, after the invasion, he could just have Root attack and capture the weakened Kohona nin. They are skilled so it's plausible. I think the nation's citizens would support Danzou, to crush the invaders so it won't happen again, ever, I don't blame them. Then anyone who doesn't support him will become rogue ninja or citizens... Then maybe Kakashi could start training Sakura to take his rightful spot. I mean, what better place to train genjutsu than the natural environment itself? When Naruto comes back I think he's in for a shock of his life...

There's gotta be dark times for the good, I think this is the perfect way to set it up...

Then what happens if Sasuke and Co. invades... Maybe the advisors would be killed off, but Danzou would be too much for all of them... Will they escape from Danzou?

And the Kage summit, just how suprised the Kage's (esp. Gaara) would be if Danzou came instead of Tsunade?! Maybe they will agree to start a war against Mist, thus the Third Ninja World War.

Oh please let it be this way! This is too good to let go...

boroz

11-05-2008, 05:23 PM

Aiii.. It's sad to say Kakashi is no longer useful either his Chakra was drained up dead or nap in the hospital for a month... What i most interested in is how Konoha gonna force Pains away from the village, who has capability to do it and how? It's seemed neither Naruto or Sasuke gonna be there and Pains doesn't seem to be walking away peacefully... However, the most incredible part is Danzou is planning be next Hokage XD, that means we gonna see Sasuke (emo dude) comes straight for him and i wonder Danzou's badass plans Mr. Mastermind = =. I really wonder why he didn't do it when the 4th dead (9tialed invasion) or 3th dead (Orochimaru invasion) why got to wait for Mr. Pains invasion ?_?

It would be lovely to see Kakashi flashback tho. but from the interview Kishi is planning to focus on Sakura next... what a drag ';..;' ... i already saw her ability n potential with Sasori the longest fight EVER and not again... I wanna see Naruto's new jutsu n "Jman and Kakashi revenge" which seem to be far away.... Danzou got his ass kicked hard gonna be really awsome too...

Douche dude

mandelak

11-05-2008, 05:37 PM

I knew that was his plan from a while back.

i said it multiple times to. i was like im sure he is trying to take over the village. how else to do that but become hokage. I do see him becoming hokage.

tsunade either dies in battle or she steps down to look for pain or she is forced to step down by danzou. danzou does something that makes it impossible to do anything.

if kakashi dies than i don't mind, but i still dont think he will die. i think tsunade may risk her life to save his.

and that is how danzou may be hokage. the elders wont elect kakashi for sure

boroz

11-05-2008, 05:44 PM

As much as I want Kakashi to become the next Hokage, I think it's Danzou who will take that spot. We see that he's doing something from the pics. If Tsunade dies which I think will happen, after the invasion, he could just have Root attack and capture the weakened Kohona nin. They are skilled so it's plausible. I think the nation's citizens would support Danzou, to crush the invaders so it won't happen again, ever, I don't blame them. Then anyone who doesn't support him will become rogue ninja or citizens...

Hmm... Does it really necessary for Danzou to do that much work after 3 Legendaries die to become a Hokage? What i think is... he just have to make sure Tsunade got kill during the Pains invasion...... prove his true strength to the villagers... I do believe, Hokage is someone normally is strongest one within the village and with 2 elders supports.... he is a Hokage for sure... not long he gonna get his ass kicked by Sasuke and Naruto gonna be the next one XD.

Kishi killing off all the old generation becoz he wanna end story by putting Naruto to the throne asap...

NarutoSennin

11-05-2008, 05:46 PM

What i most interested in is how Konoha gonna force Pains away from the village, who has capability to do it and how?

I think Danzou and Root will actually have something to do with sending Pain out of Konoha, but not until after Tsunade dies. It will probably be under shady circumstances but If they are the ones that save the village, Danzou won't have to kill anyone to become Hokage, he can just say "hey I saved everyone so I should be hokage" and no one would really be able to argue with that. Root are all supposed to be elite ninja after all.

akc12

11-05-2008, 05:51 PM

Hmm... Does it really necessary for Dandou to do that much work after 3 Legendaries die to become a Hokage? What i think is... he just have to make sure Tsunade got kill during the Pains invasion and prove his true strength to the villagers...

I agree, but I'm sure there will be violent protestors. It's up to the advisors really I guess. If they allow Danzou to run as leader, good Nin are screwed. It'll be a war if they don't, which would be dumb. Advisors will definetly go with Danzou though, they're more similar in their ideas of running Kohona.

papfles

11-05-2008, 05:51 PM

Root are all supposed to be elite ninja after all.

HMm, elite, probably, but better than the jounin and some of the anbu? I doubt that. Otherwise he would be in control already. And if he was so good, he sure is a lame bastard, seeing how konoha has been under attack enough to warrant him doing something.

NarutoSennin

11-05-2008, 05:54 PM

HMm, elite, probably, but better than the jounin and some of the anbu? I doubt that. Otherwise he would be in control already. And if he was so good, he sure is a lame bastard, seeing how konoha has been under attack enough to warrant him doing something.

So I guess we don't have to be worried about him becoming hokage since he's so weak and so is root. That's a relief

papfles

11-05-2008, 05:58 PM

"I doubt that", "if".

I know those words probably don't mean a lot to you, but they show that that is my point of view and not "fact".

Don't put words in my mouth as if I said that Danzou + root cannot beat a grass pollen.

mandelak

11-05-2008, 06:02 PM

i think root are strong and the reason for not acting is just because it wasnt the right time. and if he did then it wouldnt have worked out right. i think he is using this opportunity to take her out even if he kills her himself or gets his root people to do it.

an assassination type of thing. this way when they find her they will say it was all pain since he wa the one wrecking the village

how ever i agree with pap. with them being not being to different from normal anbu or jounin for that matter.

they may have no emotions so making judgements will be easier.

papfles

11-05-2008, 06:04 PM

Then he sure has a steady hand if he decided to do absolutely nothing when both the sound and the sand invaded, with the help of Orochimaru.

NarutoSennin

11-05-2008, 06:05 PM

you're just arguing for the sake of arguing and its annoying. Everyone is basically saying that Danzou is trying to become hokage and we all know that they aren't going to make a weakling hokage and it was stated that root is full of elite shinobi. I never said they were better than all of the other konoha nin and i didn't say that Danzou wanted to take konoha and the position of hokage by force. Yet you had to discount my reasoning. "I doubt that" and "if" are just ways of arguing with me without actually disagreeing with the idea that Danzou wants to be hokage and without coming up with an idea of your own. its pointless

papfles

11-05-2008, 06:09 PM

hmmm, "discussion thread".... weird how that works.

I just cannot imagine someone who is vying for the position of hokage to wait during an invasion where sandaime died and jiraiya declined afterwards. He could've jumped in at that point and said "we need a leader now, I am the person to do it, I have ample defenses set up with my ROOT division" and so on.

I cannot see Danzou's reasoning in waiting as long as he did, until Pain came in. Maybe Pain totals the place and he has nothing left to "govern".

mandelak

11-05-2008, 06:09 PM

i think he is just saying that why did he wait for now to do something. there have been other opportunities to do what he wants.

how ever at those times i think it was harder coz there was jiraya around and stuff.

now with jiraya gone and naruto gone there really isnt anyone that could stop him. besides tsunade and anbu

it seems he doesnt see tsunade and her current people as a big threat, but he kept naruto away purposely and also most likely was rapped when jiraya died

NarutoSennin

11-05-2008, 06:16 PM

True, Danzou could have stepped in on a couple of occasions but he didn't. The confirmed spoiler translations that I've read has stated that he wants to become Hokage. That alone makes it useless to argue that point. He didn't step in before, who cares, that's in the past. I was just coming up with a way that I think he could accomplish this goal right now. I don't think he's going to force his way into the position and I never said that.

papfles

11-05-2008, 06:19 PM

That alone makes it useless to argue that point.

Then I fear you miss most of the "points" these discussions usually bring up.

They discuss everything, even though it has been stated here and there to be a certain way.

We've talked lengthy in here about the escape that sasuke had against Deidara. We didn't need to do that because following your point, we don't need to argue anything that is fixed into the manga.

That's part of the thing we discuss here, the reasoning why and whether it sounds logical within the storyline that kishimoto has created.

akc12

11-05-2008, 06:21 PM

And Danzou is NOT Madara...
Another reason why Danzou didn't make a move because the Elders themselves chose Jiraiya. If Danzou doesn't have Elder support, he could basically do nothing as Hokage.

Thistle

11-05-2008, 06:23 PM

Thing is that Danzou didn`t manage to become Hokage, no matter how strong the shinobi under his control are. His personal influence wasn`t enough to become Hokage. Even if he had tried by force the result would only have been that he would probably have destroyed what he wanted to rule. He didn`t try, meaning he was most probably aware that he wouldn`t have succeeded. Now Konoha gets shattered and not only does Danzou nothing to save it, he also acts against it. He is playing a risky game so he must be highly desperate. Maybe there won`t be enough left of Konoha to rule it, and it is getting vulnerable to more attacks by outside enemies. Danzou is acting like a complete idiot so i suspect he has lost his sense of reality.

NarutoSennin

11-05-2008, 06:24 PM

I'm done arguing over insignificant crap, you can keep doing so if you want but I'm wondering if you do believe that Danzou is trying to become Hokage and if so, how you think he'll do it.

boroz

11-05-2008, 06:26 PM

I think Danzou and Root will actually have something to do with sending Pain out of Konoha, but not until after Tsunade dies. It will probably be under shady circumstances but If they are the ones that save the village, Danzou won't have to kill anyone to become Hokage, he can just say "hey I saved everyone so I should be hokage" and no one would really be able to argue with that. Root are all supposed to be elite ninja after all.

I got your point and i know u like Tsunade's balloon so do i? i don't wanna see Tsunade's balls got bursted too... come on be a bit rational = =. Donzou may gain the titled as a Hero or a Gold metal if he could force Pains away.... it's his responsibility and his job as a root leader... it would be another word saying when there is an empty throne and a new suitable hero emerge...

NarutoSennin

11-05-2008, 06:30 PM

Naru-Ichi

11-05-2008, 06:34 PM

The way I figure it, Danzou and root can't overthrow konoha or he would have done it already and doing so would be stupid because then the villagers would revolt against him. That is why I figured if him and Root saved the village from Pain it would be likely that he would be made Hokage.

Just saving the village wouldn't make him Hokage if Tsunade is still alive, but he would gain more respect.

Wannabe

11-05-2008, 06:38 PM

I have three things to say...

First is "Yay!! Sasuke went down in the polls!1" which was my first reaction when I saw that he was number three this morning. Glad that Naruto went back up to the top two...and eeeuuuhh....Iruka is still hanging in there? :/

Second is "Yay! Chouza dies!" Although he's not really evil or anything, he's been on my list of characters with bad karma ever since he or someone from his clan participated in the kill Naruto riot (http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-001/page037.html) back in chapter 1. Not surprising to me that he dies in the upcoming chapter. Hmm~

Third is "I can't believe Kakashi is just going to die like this, right now, from being punctured by six to eight centimeter nails." I mean, out of all of the characters on his team, he is the only one who has not even seen Sasuke in Part II yet. Not once. The first time they pursued Sasuke, he was knocked out from using the MS and left back at the hospital; second time, Madara got to Sasuke before Konoha did. Luckily, from the looks of it, there is a chance that a rescue could still be coming for him...

NarutoSennin

11-05-2008, 06:39 PM

Just saving the village wouldn't make him Hokage if Tsunade is still alive, but he would gain more respect.

In my original post I said that he and root would wait until after Tsunade was killed before they did anything.

akc12

11-05-2008, 06:40 PM

The way I figure it, Danzou and root can't overthrow konoha or he would have done it already and doing so would be stupid because then the villagers would revolt against him. That is why I figured if him and Root saved the village from Pain it would be likely that he would be made Hokage.

Not in this situation. I'm sure he'll convince the people that these invaders should be brought down and it will be done by force. Just look at 9/11...

boroz

11-05-2008, 06:45 PM

Not in this situation. I'm sure he'll convince the people that these invaders should be brought down and it will be done by force. Just look at 9/11...

Man... please stop making Mr.NarutoSennin cries

jiraiya san

11-05-2008, 07:33 PM

Advisors will definitely go with Danzou though, they're more similar in their ideas of running Kohona.

i don't know but if the elders and Danzou had similar ideas then why put Tsunade as hokage. I know they choose Jiraiya at first but when Jiraiya refuse then they could it done it. Or do you guys think Tsunede is stronger then Danzou?

akc12

11-05-2008, 07:52 PM

Hmm, maybe she's better suited for the recovery of the village. The threat of Oro and Sand were diminished after, so there was no need for a war minded leader.

jiraiya san

11-05-2008, 07:59 PM

Hmm, maybe she's better suited for the recovery of the village. The threat of Oro and Sand were diminished after, so there was no need for a war minded leader.

yeah you have a point there that could it been the reason why they choose her.But do you think tsunade is stronger then danzou

akc12

11-05-2008, 08:05 PM

If I had to guess... Danzou is slightly stronger than Tsunade, but not Oro or Jman. He could defeat Hawk himself I do believe, and be on equal grounds on Killerbee. Just a guess.

PirUnravel

11-05-2008, 08:40 PM

lolz what if, after all this, Danzou is as strong as Iruka?

^_~

"ALL AMERICAN WHITE PEOPLE MUST REPORT TO THE COTTON FIELDS ON JANUARY 20TH FOR ORIENTATION."

mandelak

11-05-2008, 09:01 PM

i want naruto to come to see danzou as hokage and just have a fit. especially when danzou screws naruto over and uses his emotions to mess with him. to get him to do stuff saying its all for the village. but later naruto will figure him out and will send him flying.

i still think danzou could be final villain.

KAKASHI10

11-05-2008, 10:32 PM

danzou is the father of sai and his mother is the 5th hokage.

Now that you have laugh a little, where is the spoiler?

mandelak

11-05-2008, 10:59 PM

spoilers (http://forum.narutochaos.com/showthread.php?p=749035#post749035)

they are in there, but do not discuss them in there. that thread is for spoilers only. if you have anything to say about the spoilers, ANYTHING at all write it in here.

Sparda

11-06-2008, 02:07 AM

br4nd0nh347

11-06-2008, 02:50 AM

I'm liking that first spoiler. The others, even the confirmed ones I'm not liking that much.

Murdock

11-06-2008, 07:45 AM

lol that first one was lame ... too much of Naruto being super-powerful ... plus Hiarishin :D man frogs knowing that ? :D ... it would be nice but i would say that if Naruto ever (higly improbable) learns Hiarishin it will on Kakashi's behalf or on his own ... but not from frogs since i doubt that Minato would have learned that form frogs and J-Man not knowing that

mandelak

11-06-2008, 08:58 AM

i just noticed that chouji's dad wasnt shown as one of the knocked out people on the ground in the last chapter

ACPRO

11-06-2008, 09:50 AM

Danzou as Hokage? Hell no. It's too cliche. I actually want Tsunade to stay alive, so that Old generation dies new generation comes cliche can be broken. It's like whole oldies are being replaced by their younger stronger clones. Jiraiya has Sage tech, Naruto has Sage Tech. Itachi has Amaterasu, Sasuke has Amaterasu. Sakura is the %100 copy of Tsunade except boobs. Break this stupid of chain of cliches pleaseeeee.

how is danzou as hokage cliche, thats more like a wtf?! moment if a villian becomes a leader of a good organization. if tsunade lives thats a cliche moment, and ur old generation dies and new generation becomes stronger crap.

iluminada333

11-06-2008, 10:08 AM

actually i thought he was right about the cliché that oldies are being replaced by the new ones; can you explain how it is crap? And i dont think it is a good organization; they are just like normal countries, good or bad is subjective...

papfles

11-06-2008, 10:48 AM

if tsunade lives thats a cliche moment,

Uhm what?

old dies/is surpassed so new can take over/step up:

1) Sandaime dies, gives the torch onto the next generation
2) Jiraiya dies, naruto takes over
3) kakashi says naruto has already surpassed him in certain areas
4) Sasuke overtakes his teacher Oro and also his brother Itachi (although I could beg to differ on this last one)
5) Asuma dies, shikamaru takes over
6) Chouji's dad dies, his son takes over
7) Neji does what a branch-family member normally doesn't get, takes over from his uncle

Every youngster surpasses / takes over from the older generation

The one person who maybe doesn't die and keeps her position (although she may have been surpassed by the likes of Sakura - which I doubt but that's kishi's theme anyway), is maybe Tsunade and THAT is cliché to you?

Hyugumaki

11-06-2008, 10:49 AM

optimist

11-06-2008, 11:34 AM

well chouji's dad dieing spoiler looks ok. and it seems kakashi is out of chakra and ready to die (lol) but we have always seen one person to show up at the very end to save kakashi's ass --> Maito gai. well right now kakashi is not dead.. he can be saved lol
i want to know what that freak danzo is saying in the manga.. well we will find that out this friday heh.

Sparda

11-06-2008, 11:36 AM

Danzou becoming Hokage is cliche because the whole "Military hard-ass dude overthrows administration" pattern is cliche. It's a very common pattern. That doesn't mean its bad though. If done well, it could add a lot of depth to the story, but considering Kishi's lately work, i think it will pretty much suck.

Hyugumaki

11-06-2008, 11:58 AM

What's the word of the day PeeWee?

CLICHE!!!!!!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHH

GodD*** give it a rest about this cliche crap all ready. We've known Danzou's been plotting this crap for the past 200+ chapters and people are just now complaining about it because it's finally happening? Now's his chance to finally take advantage of the situation so I'm curious to see what he'll do or if he'll even SUCCEED. Maybe Tsunade will kill him off in the process of defending the village or something like that. There will be even more turmoil in the village if all "First Choices" for Hokage are dead. Who'd be hokage if Kakashi and Danzou dies? There's plenty of different avenues that Kishi can take with this story and this situation. Maybe Kishi knows it'll be "cliche" to have danzou take over. We just don't know till it happens.

All I do know is he's an evil bastard for killing the messenger frog ... oh excuse me ... COMMUNICATION frog.

QYB and enjoy the direction this manga is taking. Kishi is really taking some big steps by killing off people and giving an excuse to have even MORE people die. This is really getting interesting.

PirUnravel

11-06-2008, 12:07 PM

i just noticed that chouji's dad wasnt shown as one of the knocked out people on the ground in the last chapter

Yeah he is... if you look closely... Chouji is looking at him... and they are both laying face down. Then in the next pane, Choza is flipped over on his back.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/423/16/

^_^

Hyugumaki

11-06-2008, 12:24 PM

Yeah he is... if you look closely... Chouji is looking at him... and they are both laying face down. Then in the next pane, Choza is flipped over on his back.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/423/16/

^_^

That's not Choza on his back, that's a different Akimichi clan member. If you look at his cheeks, there are 'X' instead of the ~ type mark on Choza's cheeks. Plus, there's not as much hair on the guy on his back. It's not Choza. He's still on his belly. That guy on his back is this guy (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/423/02/) in the far right middle pane. Notice the 'X' on his cheek.

But you still answer Mandelak's statement about choza not being there.

PirUnravel

11-06-2008, 01:31 PM

That's not Choza on his back, that's a different Akimichi clan member. If you look at his cheeks, there are 'X' instead of the ~ type mark on Choza's cheeks. Plus, there's not as much hair on the guy on his back. It's not Choza. He's still on his belly. That guy on his back is this guy (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/423/02/) in the far right middle pane. Notice the 'X' on his cheek.

But you still answer Mandelak's statement about choza not being there.

Cool. Thanks for the correction!!! ^_^

br4nd0nh347

11-06-2008, 04:40 PM

It doesn't make sense that Tsunade dies (and Danzou takes over) though since Naruto has to grow older to become hokage. How many more Hokages is Konoha going to go through?
It seems to me looking back at the history, sure the Hokages except the 3 had relatively short lives, but everything is happening to quickly. By that I mean Naruto wouldn't be the next generation to surpass and also become Hokage, we'd have to wait till he's older.
Looking at the hokages and who they taught, one of their students became hokage, I'm expecting Kakashi to be the next right before Naruto.

Anyways I think Danzou becoming hokage would be great, because I think Naruto would leave Konoha because of his ways or because he will be chasing him. That would be an awesome change for the series. Though it doesn't go with the Kishi flow, you know. - Killer Bee

KAKASHI10

11-06-2008, 04:53 PM

GUI would be an excellent HOKAGE
What I dont understand is why the 3erd hokage choose the 4th hokage and he was still working as the 3erd?
So the 4th was waiting for the 3erd to drop dead to be in command?
or he was having some hokage duties?
I remember that Oro told the 3erd he need it to have choosen another replacement, before that day and now he will not be able to choose a new hokage/

anyone care to explain

PirUnravel

11-06-2008, 05:05 PM

Hyugumaki

11-06-2008, 05:20 PM

I think the 3rd Hokage was getting old so he chose the 4th (Naruto's Dad).

Then the 4th Hokage died.

So reluctantly, the 3rd Hokage had to come out of retirement and be the Hokage again until he found ANOTHER replacement.

Before he could find a suitable replacement, Oro killed him. <_<

/agreed

I also believe that he wanted to make Orochimaru Hokage until he discovered the brutality Oro displayed in his experiments and turned to the Fourth. Once the fourth died, it's as PirUnravel said, he became hokage again and started looking at Jiraiya. Before he could ask, he died. Thus is why the elders confronted Jiraiya and he said no and recommended Tsunade for the job.

Tsunade was later talking of future candidates to give Hokage to (Kakashi and Naruto). So, thus she passes on the title of Hokage. What Danzou will do is take the title by force, and probably have the backing of the elders too since Kakashi dies (hypothetically anyway).

Thistle

11-06-2008, 06:10 PM

I fear that Danzou as Hokage would fit all too well into the storyline...how else should Kishimoto find a grain of justification for Sasuke going after the Konoha elders if not with an "evil" Hokage? After Danzou has proven what a jerk he is some people in Konoha would even look the other way when someone comes along to kill the Hokage...and with recent deaths in Konoha Sasuke might decide that destroying Konoha with his own hands is no longer necessary. It leaves a tiny backdoor for Sasuke returning to the "good" side, if his only crime will be having joined a criminal organization...

...although my own preference would be Sasuke getting the sh*t beaten out of him by whoever comes along and failing miserably...

Seraphiel

11-06-2008, 06:12 PM

Thistle

11-06-2008, 06:18 PM

only person left is Naruto and we know that will happen at the mediocre end.

Well Sasuke won again and overcame the 8 tails...a clear and decisive defeat is what would do him good. And i'm not too sure if that will happen in the end...

Seraphiel

11-06-2008, 06:22 PM

Well Sasuke won again and overcame the 8 tails...a clear and decisive defeat is what would do him good. And i'm not too sure if that will happen in the end...

I can tell u how it will end sasuke becomes hokage(first uchiha hokage) and naruto becomes jman 2.

nut srsly Sasuke is a better char than most we have been served so far I hope he assassinates danzou,not for a fight where he proves ms>all.

JD021

11-06-2008, 06:32 PM

^^ sasuke isnt really that great if anything hes a character that was given endless powerups for no fucking reason and to top it off there wasnt even any backstory as to how strong this bastard really got and what pushed him to get that strong..being a genius just isnt enough when it comes to killing oro and itachi.. you must be an incredible being so i think sasuke is still undeveloped regardless of how super human the little prick is and i hate his guts i hope madara eats his heart out of his fucking chest and steals his eyes and steps on them..

Thistle

11-06-2008, 06:39 PM

I can tell u how it will end sasuke becomes hokage(first uchiha hokage) and naruto becomes jman 2.

And what a sad and mediocre ending this would be...

A former Akatsuki as Hokage? God beware...not to forget that there must be people who would "elect" Sasuke as Hokage, and killing the elders doesn`t exactly qualify him for the job. Should the elders die someone will take their place and decide about who should become the next Hokage, and Sasuke isn`t exactly popular in Konoha and probably would never be should he return there, which i doubt. In my opinion the likelihood of seeing Naruto as Hokage one day is higher.

Seraphiel

11-06-2008, 06:43 PM

And what a sad and mediocre ending this would be...

A former Akatsuki as Hokage? God beware...not to forget that there must be people who would "elect" Sasuke as Hokage, and killing the elders doesn`t exactly qualify him for the job. Should the elders die someone will take their place and decide about who should become the next Hokage, and Sasuke isn`t exactly popular in Konoha and probably would never be should he return there, which i doubt. In my opinion the likelihood of seeing Naruto as Hokage one day is higher.
I know it would be crap and mediocre but that's what the manga is becoming sadly.

And I agree with your points it was just a prediction anyway.
^^ sasuke isnt really that great if anything hes a character that was given endless powerups for no fucking reason and to top it off there wasnt even any backstory as to how strong this bastard really got and what pushed him to get that strong..being a genius just isnt enough when it comes to killing oro and itachi.. you must be an incredible being so i think sasuke is still undeveloped regardless of how super human the little prick is and i hate his guts i hope madara eats his heart out of his fucking chest and steals his eyes and steps on them..

Yes you make sense,well not really,what drove him that far?

It was hatred for Itachi do you even read the manga.

And tell me my good sir why don't u like him as a char?

Thistle

11-06-2008, 06:49 PM

I know it would be crap and mediocre but that's what the manga is becoming sadly.

And I agree with your points it was just a prediction anyway.

Yes, i know that it was a prediction, and i fear that you may be correct...

And i agree on the manga having lost quality.

JD021

11-06-2008, 06:53 PM

I know it would be crap and mediocre but that's what the manga is becoming sadly.

And I agree with your points it was just a prediction anyway.

Yes you make sense,well not really,what drove him that far?

It was hatred for Itachi do you even read the manga.

And tell me my good sir why don't u like him as a char?

ok besides his hatred for itachi what else drives sasuke.. and since itachi is dead the only thing that pushes him to go is destroying konoha??... thats definitely lame since oro tried a failed and pain is trying right now.. i dont like sasuke as a character because kishi made him into a self centered little bitch ass homosexual ninja with these insanely powerful eyes and techniques but really has no real solid story behind this guy.. other than the fact that his brother killed his whole clan and he drove himself off emotion which is another thing that leads me to hating his character.. arent ninjas supposed to be these emotionless tools of war? come to think of it most of the characters in naruto really have too much emotion for their own good and shouldnt really be ninjas but back to sasuke.. he treats every ninja around him like theyre worthless to him but he expects people to give a fuck about how he feels.. hes always whining which is very annoying and reminds me of Obito and is leading me to believe that the uchihas are really better off dead because 2/4 of the uchiha that we know of are crybaby ninjas and the other 2 are animals (madara/itachi) so thats basically half of the uchihas being total pussies..so itachi in my eyes did a great deed and should of killed his fucking brother too

oh and by the way i do read the manga u should try not to be such an asshole next time my good sir.

dharq

11-06-2008, 06:55 PM

my question at this point is... if Pein is this incredibly freakin' powerful--enough so to take out Konoha by himself--why the hell does he even need the tailed beasts anyway?

Hell, he could wipe out the entire shinobi world at this point without pausing... except to kiss Sasuke's butt--Kishi would make sure of that.

Seraphiel

11-06-2008, 07:06 PM

ok besides his hatred for itachi what else drives sasuke.. and since itachi is dead the only thing that pushes him to go is destroying konoha??... thats definitely lame since oro tried a failed and pain is trying right now.. i dont like sasuke as a character because kishi made him into a self centered little bitch ass homosexual ninja with these insanely powerful eyes and techniques but really has no real solid story behind this guy.. other than the fact that his brother killed his whole clan and he drove himself off emotion which is another thing that leads me to hating his character.. arent ninjas supposed to be these emotionless tools of war? come to think of it most of the characters in naruto really have too much emotion for their own good and shouldnt really be ninjas but back to sasuke.. he treats every ninja around him like theyre worthless to him but he expects people to give a fuck about how he feels.. hes always whining which is very annoying and reminds me of Obito and is leading me to believe that the uchihas are really better off dead because 2/4 of the uchiha that we know of are crybaby ninjas and the other 2 are animals (madara/itachi) so thats basically half of the uchihas being total pussies..so itachi in my eyes did a great deed and should of killed his fucking brother too

oh and by the way i do read the manga u should try not to be such an asshole next time my good sir.

Actually he has better motivations than any1 in konoha better than naruto for sure,the only char who has better motivation is Pein cuz its interesting to watch him fulfill them.

And yes Sasuke was indeed emotionless until the crying part and that made him into a real shinobi not like the filth we get served every day.

Again him assaulting konoha,him fighting itachi,deidara or any1 for that sake is more interesting to watch than naruto training or naruto chasing after him for sure.

So indeed this is not fanboyism but logical deduction Sasuke is more interesting then most of the filth we see each chapter.

Thistle

11-06-2008, 07:29 PM

Actually he has better motivations than any1 in konoha better than naruto for sure,the only char who has better motivation is Pein cuz its interesting to watch him fulfill them.

Negative emotions like hate, anger, desire for vengeance may appear to be more appealing than positive ones as a motivation in a manga, but just look how miserable Sasuke was after realizing that it was for naught...he is much weaker in character than Naruto for he is unable to admit his failure, instead keeping his desire for vengeance alife by shifting it to the elders of Konoha and all of Konoha.

Naruto`s motivation does looks a bit pale compared to Sasuke`s, but we got an overabundance of Sasuke chapters while barely seeing Naruto at all for months, so i prefer Naruto`s motivation over Sasuke`s twisted point of view. Not to forget that Sasuke has to fail or the ultimate message of Naruto will be that vengeance is a great thing.

papfles

11-06-2008, 07:46 PM

And yes Sasuke was indeed emotionless until the crying part and that made him into a real shinobi not like the filth we get served every day.

He is a good char to make the plot go faster and to get some characters some bumps (Naruto increased a LOT because of Sasuke). But as you said, he was emotionless (and let's be honest, he is emotionless again after "accepting" Itachi's fate).
That alone makes him a really annoying and lousy char. Kishi did not play his revenge-card correctly. He should've made him more maniacal, more vindictive. He should be like an evil god in Black&White. Kishi kept him a kill-virgin for way too long. Compared to Pain and his "don't give a shit, I'll kill everyone of you if I have to"-ways, Sasuke is extremely boring imho.

Sasuke goes "...". Those few "smiles" when he thinks back of naruto are heading the same way as the "I'm not going to let him kill anyone so that I can maybe get him to come back to konoha as a non-murderer".

Naruto has his "I'll never give up"-vibe which works well in some ways + he has shown emotion during setbacks, and to still want to overcome them. His "Sasuke waah waah"-vibe however is seriously sucking all of the good out of his char too. Luckily Kishi has shifted that to "Pain" now, so that we don't get that cry-baby thing anymore.

If he either numbed down those two aspects (of each char), it would've been a lot better

KAKASHI10

11-06-2008, 07:46 PM

The guy that looks like a vegetable will be naruto father after he tried to contain the beast.

It could be?
Also NARUTO WILL NOT BE HOKAGE read my lips

papfles

11-06-2008, 07:47 PM

The guy that looks like a vegetable will be naruto father after he tried to contain the beast.

It could be?
Also NARUTO WILL NOT BE HOKAGE read my lips

It could be.

He could also be a failed experiment from the future. Shows how likely your zetsu-prediction is ;)

And we can't read your lips >_>

shiodoru

11-06-2008, 07:49 PM

I know it would be crap and mediocre but that's what the manga is becoming sadly.

And I agree with your points it was just a prediction anyway.

Thats a fact,actually its progressing very very(unusually) fast.I think it started after the Uchiha part ,not sure though.Kishi left many things without any explanation and although that lets him maneuver it is getting annoying.The new characters that were introduced are not that ''shiny''..anyway i agree with u.

PirUnravel

11-06-2008, 08:26 PM

I think Naruto will die and Sasuke will then finally realize everything in that moment... then Sasuke will be Hokage. ^_^

p.s. - Zetsu is linked to Pain
p.p.s. - I just realized that Danzou is trying to keep Naruto from Pain (lolz @ finally)... this totally finally kills my theory that Danzou has a relation to Madara... unless Madara/Madara's relative doesn't want Pain to meet Naruto???

- _-

akc12

11-06-2008, 08:44 PM

I think Danzou becoming hokage will make an interesting twist in how operations are ran in Konoha. The village will surely become a military nation under his rule and you'll see a lot of laws brought down on the people. My question is how will the rebuilding process go after Pein leaves or is defeated. The way I see it, it was still not back to how it was before the Oro invasion. How does Danzou plan to make the village more powerful when it's still been severely hurt from that along with all the damage.

I think this will leave Konoha open to attack from other nations and probably move towards a full on war. There's got to be a way to have Naruto unite the Ninja world. What better way than to emerge in the bloodshed of war as a savior of everyone?

I'm ready for this arch to end so we can proceed with the story.

Wow, from reading this, I think Kohona run by Danzou should be the final villian. His army can only be defeated if the whole Ninja world unites, mostly due to Naruto's 'special' power to make friends. Naruto will save/liberate AN ENTIRE LARGE VILLAGE. I don't think it can get much better than that. Maybe Sasuke can be part of the saving... then Uchiha and Kohona will truely be regarded as equals to the citizens.

or maybe this could lead to the other villain, Madara. But I'm liking this manga more and more, however cliche it maybe.

mandelak

11-06-2008, 08:47 PM

i think danzou is keeping naruto away because naruto will spoil his plans. and also with naruto getting stronger he can use naruto as a weopon later on. possibly will do what he did to itachi to naruto. similar at least.

will make naruto do something saying it is for the good of the village. maybe tell naruto to kill sasuke saying that sasuke is the one who destroyed the village and killed so and so and then he will remember what itachi said and then will probably set out for akatsuki and sasuke

akc12

11-06-2008, 08:57 PM

From the latest post, I have a feeling Naruto will be manipulated in some way and be put in a similar position as BTS Sasuke was due to the destruction by Pain and later Sasuke and Co. Maybe a Dark Naruto arc? He would like to destroy Akatsuki, but he would be going with Danzou, who I think is evil in the inside. Then there's the good side, but it will be hard living, and death all around. I'm sure initially he would stay with Danzou but as Naruto finds more about the truth, he'll have to fight his way to go back with the good nin.

From posts before. I thought how Kishi portrayed Sasuke and Naruto are fine. Since Sasuke doesn't want to be like Itachi, he doesn't kill anyone insignificant. Naruto thinking about Sasuke as motivation is fine as well. It's like your best friend ever running away, wouldn't you want to try to save him somehow, especially if he's much stronger than you? Well, differing opinions, that is all.

Seraphiel

11-06-2008, 09:12 PM

Negative emotions like hate, anger, desire for vengeance may appear to be more appealing than positive ones as a motivation in a manga, but just look how miserable Sasuke was after realizing that it was for naught...he is much weaker in character than Naruto for he is unable to admit his failure, instead keeping his desire for vengeance alife by shifting it to the elders of Konoha and all of Konoha.

Naruto`s motivation does looks a bit pale compared to Sasuke`s, but we got an overabundance of Sasuke chapters while barely seeing Naruto at all for months, so i prefer Naruto`s motivation over Sasuke`s twisted point of view. Not to forget that Sasuke has to fail or the ultimate message of Naruto will be that vengeance is a great thing.

Well his vengeance is appealing to me cuz I blame konoha and the senju for it and I want him to destroy konoha if pein doesn't do it.

And I think he is doing the right thing so yeah its interesting for me.

Its not fanboyism(just saying cuz this forum is full of sasu haters) its just my opinion a loudmouth Aryan ninja is not that appealing to me so you would see why I favor sasuke.

Also most of his fights are more flashy and epic than narutos so far.

All of that makes me choose him over naruto.
He is a good char to make the plot go faster and to get some characters some bumps (Naruto increased a LOT because of Sasuke). But as you said, he was emotionless (and let's be honest, he is emotionless again after "accepting" Itachi's fate).
That alone makes him a really annoying and lousy char. Kishi did not play his revenge-card correctly. He should've made him more maniacal, more vindictive. He should be like an evil god in Black&White. Kishi kept him a kill-virgin for way too long. Compared to Pain and his "don't give a shit, I'll kill everyone of you if I have to"-ways, Sasuke is extremely boring imho.

Sasuke goes "...". Those few "smiles" when he thinks back of naruto are heading the same way as the "I'm not going to let him kill anyone so that I can maybe get him to come back to konoha as a non-murderer".

Naruto has his "I'll never give up"-vibe which works well in some ways + he has shown emotion during setbacks, and to still want to overcome them. His "Sasuke waah waah"-vibe however is seriously sucking all of the good out of his char too. Luckily Kishi has shifted that to "Pain" now, so that we don't get that cry-baby thing anymore.

If he either numbed down those two aspects (of each char), it would've been a lot better

Which is boring.

Again pein is the true emotionless shinobi and without his uber hax plot no jutsu powers he is a pretty weak char no development so far.

Again why I favor sasuke,cuz we actually know things about him and pappy he went maniac in that one frame when he goes ms in front of madara.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/416/16/

btw is madra saying the love hate thing on the left of his ... frame?

akc12

11-06-2008, 09:15 PM

Naruto's inspiring other people, yes boring, but deep, and has good meaning.
I hope the ending is just about Naruto's influence, something really bad should happen beforehand that would linger on... maybe Naruto's death?

I don't support Naruto dying at the end or any time however.

Thistle

11-06-2008, 09:38 PM

Well his vengeance is appealing to me cuz I blame konoha and the senju for it and I want him to destroy konoha if pein doesn't do it.

And I think he is doing the right thing so yeah its interesting for me.

Its not fanboyism(just saying cuz this forum is full of sasu haters) its just my opinion a loudmouth Aryan ninja is not that appealing to me so you would see why I favor sasuke.

The thought of calling you a fanboy did never cross my mind. And i wouldn`t call myself a Sasuke hater either. I`m simply sick of Kishimoto`s apparent preference of Sasuke over Naruto.

At times vengeance does seem to be appealing, even to me...but if you actually get it then most of the times you don`t feel any better afterwards, i can tell from my own experiences. I can understand that the Sasuke's vengeance-storyline is more interesting for some people than the ongoing Sasuke-chasing and training sessions of Naruto...

But concerning Sasuke's vengeance, he is most probably going to target innocents and he is disregarding all that his brother stood for and all that what his brother took upon himself simply because he can't admit having been wrong and letting go of his hatred. I do understand that, somehow, otherwise he would have to realize that his life is simply devoid of any meaning and any goal, and who wants to admit that...

Teh Goomba

11-06-2008, 09:38 PM

its just my opinion a loudmouth Aryan ninja is not that appealing to me

Since when does blond hair mean Aryan exclusively? The whole Aryan thing is kind of made up anyway, I think you will find that there are alot of blond haired people from other areas of the world. Also, I don't think there was a Hidden Village of Germany anywhere in the Narutoverse.

PirUnravel

11-06-2008, 09:40 PM

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/416/15/

I always felt the top left pane here was Kishi having Sasuke speak to all the fans that call him EMO and criticize him for it. What do you guys think?

Also, I don't think there was a Hidden Village of Germany anywhere in the Narutoverse.

lollll

Seraphiel

11-06-2008, 09:43 PM

Since when does blond hair mean Aryan exclusively? The whole Aryan thing is kind of made up anyway, I think you will find that there are alot of blond haired people from other areas of the world. Also, I don't think there was a Hidden Village of Germany anywhere in the Narutoverse.
blue eyes +blond hair=Aryan and I was joking.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/416/15/

I always felt the top left pane here was Kishi having Sasuke speak to all the fans that call him EMO and criticize him for it. What do you guys think?

lollll

When I was looking for 1 more pannel it came to my mind some 45 minutes ago,and naruto is 10000000x emo than sasuke.

Teh Goomba

11-06-2008, 09:47 PM

blue eyes +blond hair=Aryan and I was joking.

Well OK then. Were you also joking about the "nigger"?

Thistle

11-06-2008, 09:47 PM

Just to add that "aryan" comes from some proto-indian culture, meaning the original aryans had dark hair and brown eyes :p

If anyone wants to read about it...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryans

Seraphiel

11-06-2008, 09:50 PM

Just to add that "aryan" comes from some proto-indian culture, meaning the original aryans had dark hair and brown eyes :p

If anyone wants to read about it...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryans

I LOVE U.

I have dark hair and brown eyes :D

@goomba no I didn't joke.

PirUnravel

11-06-2008, 10:16 PM

Meeeee tooooooooooooo!

yay @ dark hair and dark brown eyes! ^_^

Seraphiel

11-06-2008, 10:28 PM

Meeeee tooooooooooooo!

yay @ dark hair and dark brown eyes! ^_^

So we are higher beings.

Again guys do you think Kakashi is dead?

The last frame fades to black.

If he wills himself to life its just stupid.

Teh Goomba

11-06-2008, 10:36 PM

So we are higher beings.

So how long have you been out of prison? Did they let you keep the arm band too?

Again guys do you think Kakashi is dead?

The last frame fades to black.

If he wills himself to life its just stupid.

Nope. He's probably gonna end up with a brain aneurysm from over-use of sharingan and become retarded Kakashi. You know, a drooling, smiling, lazy-eyed version of himself.

nagato

11-06-2008, 10:42 PM

So we are higher beings.

Again guys do you think Kakashi is dead?

The last frame fades to black.

If he wills himself to life its just stupid.

that would be just like what jiriyia did when he willed himself back to life. pathetic just pathetic of kakashi. he has to have more then just that seriously not even killing 1 pein. thats awful. i thought he would have more then that. 1000 jutsus he uses like 5. kakashi if you die like this then i will give up on naruto. pein made it seem as though he was toying with kakashi. making kakashi seem very very weak or making pein even more of a god then he was before hand. feel bad for choji his dad is dead. i want to see shikimarus dad fight hes beast. everything that shikimaru knows he learned from his father training him. dad is also better then shikimaru at strategy and possibly intelligence from seeing them play against each other in that chinese/japanese board game. so he should be able to take on any pein.