Naruto Chapter 422 Discussions

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421 is out, grab it here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/421/01/).

Tsunade shows her faith in Naruto, but communications between the two parties have been severed, what will they do?! And what does Danzou plan to do? Predict away!

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[-Erios-]

I think that Tsuade doesnt know how to manage the village seriously she is calling back the person that pein is looking for...wouldnt that make his job easier .....now dont get me wrong i would love to see naruto kick pein's ass but i think that tsunade's desision is to harsh , to call naruto in this situation...and Danzou made the best decision he is really looking for the best interest for the village

[PirUnravel]

more blatant proof that Danzou is directly related to Tobi... I really think they are the same or else brothers... as I have been saying for about 8 months now.

I predict next chapter is Kakashi getting pwned and having to use MS... and maybe Tsunade finding out what happened with the communications toad. I wouldn't be surprised if she fights Danzou... she is of the lineage of the First... and we all know Tobi/Madara hates the First... O.o

There is so much being revealed to us right now... but we cannot yet piece it together.

[KageNaruto]

Posted this in the discusion thread but it's pretty much a prediction of what came to my mind as I read the chapter.

Kakashi will have to be saved, or at least team up with somebody (Tenzou) just to survive. And I don't see ANY Pein bodies being killed by any of the main Konoha nin. I say this because it looks like Danzou has a plan that corrolates to Pein. Gain support by driving him out perhaps? Then blame the attack on Naruto so the village will want to get rid of him? (Yes, then Akatsuki will have their goal handed to them but you know how the majority become dumbass lemmings after disasters.)

[-Erios-]

woah! what ever Naruto is doing it sure looks powerful

Now I also think Kakashi might end up getting help from someone...in the next chapter we are probably gonna see the rookie 9 take over since kishi pretty much focused on "the younger generation will surpass the previous one" theme

[Mudkip No Jutsu]

Kakashi is most likely going to need help. Tenzou seems to be the most predictable choice to rescue Kakashi now that you mention it. I am a huge Kakashi fan and even I now that Kakashi is in a deep hole. He's gonna need help. And i am still having a hard time think that Danzou is Madara.

Edit: I meant to say "I would am having a hard time thinking of the possibility of Madara being Danzou (sorry if i did the whole editing thing wrong, I am new!)

[-Erios-]

well Danzou being Madara isnt proved that is just an speculation.. but i would hate it if he turns out to be

[br4nd0nh347]

Kakashi is most likely going to need help. Tenzou seems to be the most predictable choice to rescue Kakashi now that you mention it. I am a huge Kakashi fan and even I now that Kakashi is in a deep hole. He's gonna need help. And i am still having a hard time think that Danzou is Madara.

I'm thinking that he could be Madara with the one eye thing going on.
However why would he Get rid of Naruto when he needs the 9-tails. Unless all of that was so he could get rid of Naruto?
I don't get it? Why would Danzou need to get rid of Naruto? (he's not even doing that, Naruto just doesn't know to come back, right?)
I guess we'll see in 422 or 423 or 424.
I have a feeling they will go back to Sasuke or Bee.
Maybe Bee has been on his way to Konoha and he saves Kakashi?

[Mudkip No Jutsu]

Yeah i know its speculation, but i just meant that its would be hard to imagine him being madara (in accordance to everyone speculating that he is madara). But I agree with you Erios it would suck so much. Madara being Tobi, Mizukage, and Danzou. I don't know what Kishi's reasoning would be for that.

[Kilbahsa]

When Tsunade grabbed those two old asses and gave them an earfull I was so happy. That literally satisfied my Naruto manga for the week, ahhh....

Preediction: Kakashi is defenitely going to have to get saved, but it will be interesting to see if it is by Naruto and how he will get back. Hopefully we get the chakra conductors completely explained soon.

[Dream Catcher]

Cool chapter, not great. I loved it how Tsunade finally took a stance against the Elders, but she is not a capable leader, at all. She rules based on emotion, not logic :p

Kakashi is definitely in a pickle, but doesn't seem worried. When he said "Hmm, it repels both physical attacks and ninjutsu" I KNOW in the back of his head he's thinking of MS[ng] Pain's ass. I have a feeling Rinnegan can somehow negate MS, but we'll see.

Naruto's jutsu indeed looks pretty kick ass, maybe even a jutsu that lands multiple hits on multiple targets at once, we'll see. It's obviously not FRS, because nothing less than a knife makes such clean cuts ;) Kegtsuga Tenshou !!!!!

Next chapter will give us some some insight on Danzou and Kakashi. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the Pain bodies encounters Danzou and they hit it off like a couple of high school sweethearts

[KageNaruto]

but she is not a capable leader, at all. She rules based on emotion, not logic :p


I agree. Rule by faith and emotion, what is this, religion?

Bah, makes me dislike Tsunade...

[Klutz]

This might be stretching it but I think that blade Pain always uses probably analyzes the targets chakra and makes him able to completely defeat their jutsus (something like what szayel in bleach was doing). What do you think?

[Dream Catcher]

I agree. Rule by faith and emotion, what is this, religion?

Bah, makes me dislike Tsunade...

Not to offend anyone but women usually tend to be ruled by emotion = unfit leaders. Lawl... unless you get that occasional woman who is better at politics than men (not saying either sex is better, just going by the numbers)\

[KageNaruto]

And I guess that stereotype (hey, it wouldn't be a stereotype if it didn't apply to the majority amirite!?!?) is overexaggeratd in anime and manga, hence why so many girls tend to have raging mood swings and displace their anger on our unfortunate main characters.

[Kilbahsa]

I hate to agree with it, but it's fairly accurate. Look at how many female nins are just given the default "medical nin" title. And they just aren't portrayed as well as the male shinobi.

[NarutoforHokage]

I think Pa Frog will be able to sense the fact the messenger toad was killed, and Naruto and Pa will hi-tail it back to Konoha just in time to stop whatever Danzo is planning and cause Pain to be defeated or maybe retreat

[KageNaruto]

Well, the Narutoverse seems to have a thing were women genetically have less chakra, but much better chakra control, so I guess that makes them genetically suited for being medical ninjas...

I think Pa Frog will be able to sense the fact the messenger toad was killed,

So what, are the frogs Jedi now, and can sense whenever somebody in the universe dies? Pffft.

JK, JK.

[NarutoforHokage]

Well i think maybe frogs can sense when other certain frogs or people who are affliated to them get killed. Idk just a hunch.

[Dream Catcher]

Well, the Narutoverse seems to have a thing were women genetically have less chakra, but much better chakra control, so I guess that makes them genetically suited for being medical ninjas...


Where's Nick when you need him :Cry:

:focus:

I doubt the frogs can sense each others deaths. It would be kinda... like KN said, Jediish, not fun. Naruto will most likely end his training by the time Pain is done in Konoha and come strolling up to the entire city being leveled. Then in a fit of rage he goes off to search for Pain all alone, solo, by himself.

I don't know why people think kakshi needs saving, I'm sure he can hold his own against those two. Although his jutsus are pretty lame (lol srry) he still has MS, so that should be his final card in this battle. If pain defeats MS then I will have nothing more to add

[KageNaruto]

Well, for one Kakashi is clearly not sannin level, has said Naruto surpassed him combat wise, got owned by Kakuzu (yeah, he had MS, blah, blah, read the thing, he was owned like 3 times).

Also, Kishimoto said Kakashi will be developed a bit in an interview right? That means he needs something to change his character or else where does the development come from? Maybe realizing how inferior he is to the big guys will slightly promote his development? I mean growth without motivation doesen't just sprout up randomly ins stories.

[Mudkip No Jutsu]

Well i think maybe frogs can sense when other certain frogs or people who are affliated to them get killed. Idk just a hunch.

I agree, especially with Pa Frog, he should know being one of the higher ranked frogs. Maybe he should know the state of his underlings. But also he maybe just as clueless as Naruto in that aspect.

In terms of Tsunade, it seems that she may have done the right thing. Naruto has to be one of the top 5 ninjas in terms of power. How could you not get such a powerful ninja to come out. But also her Faith and whatnot could have gotten the village into trouble. delivering the enemies most desired object right to his hands??? no bueno.

[Dream Catcher]

Well, for one Kakashi is clearly not sannin level, has said Naruto surpassed him combat wise, got owned by Kakuzu (yeah, he had MS, blah, blah, read the thing, he was owned like 3 times).

Also, Kishimoto said Kakashi will be developed a bit in an interview right? That means he needs something to change his character or else where does the development come from? Maybe realizing how inferior he is to the big guys will slightly promote his development? I mean growth without motivation doesen't just sprout up randomly ins stories.

I don't know, Kakashi seems really intelligent (and I'm sure he is) He also knows he has a low chakra pool compared to other people. I would think one of his developments would be if he loses the Sharingan and, discovers his own potential.

Remember he said that CS basically prevents Sasuke from growing on his own? Well the sharingan can be "blocking" his true potential and eating away at his chakra all the time, since he doesn't have an uchicha body. It's quite possible his chakra pool will "increase" if he somehow loses that eye or his sharingan goes away. Note the quotation marks on increase, meaning it's already big enough, but Sharingan constantly consumes chakra so he is always running low.

[KageNaruto]

That is possible too, though I just don't see it happening, ever. Mainly because I doubt he would loose Obito's gift, it's much too significant to him. I doubt he would loose it even if he knew it would make him stronger.

I just merely offered you one reason that I believe people have in mind when they say Kakashi will get owned by Pein. That, and he seems to have already tried some of his most powerful jutsus and they did squat.

[Dream Catcher]

We have yet to see Kakashi rasengan Pain ;)

[KageNaruto]

Pein can dodge the same way he dodged Chidori, if not better, and the two (Chidori/Raikiri and Rasengan) are pretty much the same power.

Unless you were joking... my bad.

[Dream Catcher]

Pein can dodge the same way he dodged Chidori, if not better, and the two (Chidori/Raikiri and Rasengan) are pretty much the same power.

Unless you were joking... my bad.

No i was serious, lol, but yea I guess he can dispatch that with ease as well.

Another thing I noticed about this chapter is how none of the ninjas know each other. I mean, there's a bunch of ninjas running away shitless, there's a bunch standing on buildings and then they don't even know who Sakura is or vice versa. I mean, "that girl over there" , not like the Konoha is the size of LA, I'm sure everyone should know or at least have heard of the other. -_-

PS : And where the hell are the ANBU, they're supposed to be the badass leet of konoha

[Murdock]

hmm i don't think that Danzou and Madara are related ... but i wanna argue with you since we argued about Madara being Tobi at least i think it was you

anyway IMO there might be anouther frog in Konoha just maybe .. remeber the one that could enlarge itself , the one that brought that guy they are just exploring his mind ... so Naruto still could get summoned if they would say to that frog ...

[br4nd0nh347]

Yeah i know its speculation, but i just meant that its would be hard to imagine him being madara (in accordance to everyone speculating that he is madara). But I agree with you Erios it would suck so much. Madara being Tobi, Mizukage, and Danzou. I don't know what Kishi's reasoning would be for that.

something struck me when you said that
I can't believe Tobi is Madara, but let's just say he is.
I haven't heard he was the Mizukage, but whatever.

Let's say he is all of these people, that would mean he is some sort of creature, spirit, or something like that that can take over bodies.
Him being behind the scenes for so long, him being so powerful, and also being Madara would make sense.

rasengan and chidori isn't the same power, one punches through (chidori) the other has a small opening but then demolishes.[something like that]
they are both destructive though

[Dream Catcher]

something struck me when you said that
I can't believe Tobi is Madara, but let's just say he is.
I haven't heard he was the Mizukage, but whatever.

Let's say he is all of these people, that would mean he is some sort of creature, spirit, or something like that that can take over bodies.
Him being behind the scenes for so long, him being so powerful, and also being Madara would make sense.

This theory was proposed by someone a long time ago, that Madara is actually just a ... ghost basically, not a material entity. Dunno how it works, but yup, quite possible imo

[KageNaruto]

I haven't heard he was the Mizukage, but whatever.

rasengan and chidori isn't the same power, one punches through (chidori) the other has a small opening but then demolishes.[something like that]
they are both destructive though

Kisame said it.

They collided, and they repelled each other. That means they are the same power, they just unleash it in different ways (obviously).

[Mudkip No Jutsu]

My friend and I were talking about some theories. We were talking about the possibility of Madara being Danzou. And we were kinda brainstorming ideas about madara or "Danzou's" reasons for doing this. I suggested that maybe Madara wanted to somehow take occupancy of all the kage positions one way or another since he already has the mizukage position already and we know Danzou wants Hokage...


hah dunno it was just a tiny theory

[dakmat]

I hope Kishi will show us:banana: Kakashi's MS versus Pain's Rinnegan :banana:cause it is really an awesome thing to watch out for:thumb:. Will rinnegan cancel's Kakashi's MS or is there another way to escape ar avoid Kakashis MS?
What's up with Danzou:confused:, I personally believe that he is Madara or controlled by Madara or assumed Madara.

[mandelak]

i guess kakashi can do raikiri based attacks too. that was pretty nice i think he has a lot more raikiri moves left to show.

i think this will be good for naruto in a way. he will be able to stay there longer and learn as much as possible.

i wonder what danzou's plot is.

im guessing a way to get rid of tsunade possibly so he can take over. with naruto out of the way there is no one else to stop him or pein. leaving naruto who is hokage to do the job resulting in her dying

[KageNaruto]

That makes no sense however, as Madara told Pein to get Naruto, and that would be a whole lot easier if Naruto just came to the village.

If Danzou is doing anything, it is definitely not benefitting Akatsuki. Whatever the situation he has in mind, I think it's solely for his own personal gain.

[Mudkip No Jutsu]

Yeah i know my theory prolly doesnt make sense (maybe that shoulda been in the spam zone) but ya know my theory makes about as much sense as th manga itself lately....

[mandelak]

i think its to get tsunade out of the way. with tsunade as hokage he can't really do much. with her out he has more control coz he seems to be cool with the advisors

[KageNaruto]

Yeah i know my theory prolly doesnt make sense (maybe that shoulda been in the spam zone) but ya know my theory makes about as much sense as th manga itself lately....

And what do you base this wild assumption on?

[mandelak]

well since he is saying that im gonna go ahead and tell my theory. ive thought long and hard and it makes perfect sense.

Danzou is Narutos grandfather.... O_O he is jealous and hates minato and naruto.


anyways next chapter we wont see naruto i think it will more on kakashi and sakura. so this is the 3 monts or should i say 2 months kakashi and sakura get for this year, still its awesome. im sure it will be longer. its sakura and kakashis time to shine.

i love how sakura just punched that thing. lee could've done the same. its time for the youngn's to take charg

[KageNaruto]

lee could've done the same.

And then get counter attacked. A chakra enhanced punch from Sakura is nothing like Lee's punch, his strengh is just physical, probably would have done little to no damage at all.

[mandelak]

nuh it wouldve definately done something. yes sakuras is more stronger, but lee has alot of power too. im sure he could've done damage to tha pede

[Dream Catcher]

How will the next chapter focus on Sakura? Her deciding which patient to bandage up first? :p

And yes, Lee could have punched that thing just as easily, kinda lame it died so fast also.

Pff, some village, trampling over a kid and not even stopping to help him up

[mandelak]

LOL yep konoha is like that every man or woman for them selves. lol not even the mother of the child was around to help. knowing kishi loves orphans in his stories i wouldnt be surprised if she was one too. i think she will become a main character.

sakura takes the show by trying to think what sexy hospital outfit to wear for the day

[naruto reader]

guys i think kahona will figure out something about pain, dont forget they are one of the 5 most powerfull shinobi villages. They are powerful themselves, and if they decode the riddle of pain he will be in trouble. as far as naruto i think he still needs to grow, and maybe still learn a new nature manipulation, like water or fire, moreover his training in the sage arts is not done yet, therefore he is not even at jirayas level yet even thought he can controll natural chakra better. and if jiraya couldnt deffeat pain naruto cant eather for now, and is not like others can help him cose a fight betwen those guys would be too dangerous to approch. i hope kakashi gets some back up like gai or maybe yamato with sai, because he is in trouble even though he has ms, he already used 3 raikiri and u know when he fought kakuzu he said 4 was pushing it with the sharingan also aktivated. let me know what u think

[mandelak]

well i thought it was obvious they will figure something out about pein and then send that info to tsunade. then she will go down to fight him with that in knowledge. and then pein will say something like as expected from konohagakure, BUT......(add weirdness of pein here)


do you think its possible for us to get to see nagato pein in this fight. i mean maybe tsunade will say stuff to make him come out like i know the real person behind this is not here and then poof pein comes out clapping. applauding her for figuring him out and then steps on her

[Dream Catcher]

I think Konoha obviously can't figure out anything, like mandalek said, it's everyone for themselves, not very appealing.

As for Naruto needing to grow more. He's grown quite enough. What he needs is dang experience, not learning to manipulate 10000 elements and be crap at it (not hitting Kakuzu the first time) All of his jutsus are incomplete (as far as we know) so learning more incomplete stuff defeats the purpose or getting stronger imo. You still use one jutsu at a time.

And I think naruto has already passed Jirayia, we just haven't been shown his true potential yet.

I would love to see Yamato be serious for once and take matter into his own hands, I suspect he is actually really strong.

PS : BUT "I have a secret sixth body with no rods" :O

PS PS : I just can't wait till Konan's cloak is ripped off :thumb:

[mandelak]

by THEY i meant the team that is incharge of figuring stuff out. not konoha and its citizens

yeah thats true. i wonder where that woody bastard is

[Mudkip No Jutsu]

And what do you base this wild assumption on?

What do I base this off of? Well if your talking to me i base this off of th craziness that has happened. Its like at this point in the manga anyone can throw out any crazy assumtion and there could be some chance of it being correct

[suiton]

it looks like danzou=madara theory has gotten stronger. and ithink this was an awesome chapter. when orochimaru attacked konoha i knew that it will be rescued but this time i dont think even naruto or none of konoha nins can save it. but i feel like sasuke will have something about this attack good or bad

[LoyalSoldier]

Anyone notice the sword he stabbed the frog with looks an awful lot like Sasuke's?

[mandelak]

well i think the same way kakashi did his doggy kirin is the same way sasuke would do it if he had chakra to spare. the only difference it seems like sasukes has more chakra in it to give it more power. kakashi could do the same, but having sharingan on and using something so big would drain him nicely.

madara and danzou have different hairstyles. case closed. i dont think they are the same person.

lets say pein gets the info that naruto is at toad mountain. do you think he will head out to toad mountain instead of going back to the hide out. maybe their fight will be there.

he arrives about a few months later at toad mountain and they fight.

i think it would be better off. out of all people i think pein should be able to get there. with his all seeing eyes and knowing




and no the swords are not the same (sasukes and danzou)

[lilcresloks]

i think naruto going to go cuz he seen the smoke already, and i think sakura and some one else is going to take out 1 pain

[mandelak]

naruto didnt see the smoke. that was smoke from his jutsu that he done and cut down all those mountains or trees.

he is far from konoha.

[lilcresloks]

hes going back any ways some way

[shiodoru]

1)I think Kakashi could handle the situation against one body,but now that another one interferes he ll need the assistace of another Konoha nin ,Yamato problably..
2)Argue as much as u want but...has Naruto really found a way to throw RasenShuriken?Those clean cuts on the trees indicate tha its a wind type jutsu,long range,and yes it could be a flying RS.
3The only way for Naruto n Fukasaku to realise that smths wrong is if fukasaku has an ability to know or sense that a frog was killed.
4)Danzu..i really dunno cant predict

[Murdock]

yeah Naruto could throw FRS but not normal Rasengan? please be serious ...


and most probably it's THAT JUTSU invented by Minato

and just one note - Kyuubi's jet was also piercing and wasn'T wind based attack so it don'T have to be fuuton techniques ... and since he is dead tired after that it will be probably some high chakra needing jutsu which indicates to THAT JUTSU i am talking about

[mandelak]

or maybe the reason he has been exhausted is because he has been trying it all day. and that may not even be fully complete result.

naruto is gonna be so beastly i cant wait

[shiodoru]

yeah Naruto could throw FRS but not normal Rasengan? please be serious ...


and most probably it's THAT JUTSU invented by Minato

and just one note - Kyuubi's jet was also piercing and wasn'T wind based attack so it don'T have to be fuuton techniques ... and since he is dead tired after that it will be probably some high chakra needing jutsu which indicates to THAT JUTSU i am talking about

Man have you ever predicted anything?..''THAT JUTSU'' ..is supposed to be a prediction?I was wondering n analyzing facts(cuts on the tress).

[KageNaruto]

What do I base this off of? Well if your talking to me i base this off of th craziness that has happened. Its like at this point in the manga anyone can throw out any crazy assumtion and there could be some chance of it being correct

What's with this misconception. Are you saying Pakkun has a chance of being Madara? No, your guesses are just that, guesses, along with all the guesses of the other people. Some guesses just seem more probable than other far-out ones.

and i think sakura and some one else is going to take out 1 pain

Excuse me, but are you high on crack right now...?



Rasenshuriken can't be thrown, people need to get this through their heads. Seriously -_-, the thought itself is just annoying. If it's "that jutsu" Jiraiya mentioned it's not even elemental as well. Also it's been stated wind is most powerful close and mid range I think, a long range wind jutsu makes little sense in accordance to what was stated before.


Next chapter is called Kakashi's hope... so obviously it will focus on Kakashi's fight. Is he gonna hope MS hits or something? Can't really think of anything he will hope for.


Oh, and I'll repeat, Lee would NOT have done the same thing as Sakura. That centipede was freaking huge, and it's not like Lee's normal taijutsu attacks are somehow superior to anybody elses (pure power wise, heck other people can enforce their hits with chakra, and in Sakura's case she can do it to the point where it's explosive). He would have to hit it quite a few times before that thing would go down, it would have been much more drawn out.

[mandelak]

well i dont think its FRS mainly because it would be sucky. but yeah i guess i agree with your post

and no his tai attacks are not the same as anybody elses. do you remember gai punching the dude through the wall. lee alsoripped a tree out of the ground, unless that was anime only.

think about it if he trains with those weights for kicking as well wouldnt it be normal for his kicking strength to be harder as well i mean he can carry those weights so easily and kick with them on so easily


i mean its obvious that lee's taijutsu is not the same as anyone else.

[yasuo]

Man have you ever predicted anything?..''THAT JUTSU'' ..is supposed to be a prediction?I was wondering n analyzing facts(cuts on the tress).

and chapter after chapter it sounds more possible to be a wind type jutsu (maybe FRS im not sure)... but at the moment i doubt that he is able to "throw" his FRS because Rasengan needs a high chakra concentration, remember the training. the whole stuff you need to do to achieve it... i can't imagine how he is able to control it during the time from his hand to the enemy.
but i think it is a wind type jutsu.
why should jiraya teach him a jutsu that he is only able to master when he learn to use sage mode?!
i think the "that jutsu" stuff is something that he have trained for after his FRS training or during his sage mode training... it would be boring, he learned about his affinity and can only use FRS :/

[Murdock]

or maybe the reason he has been exhausted is because he has been trying it all day. and that may not even be fully complete result.

naruto is gonna be so beastly i cant wait

after he tried it first time he did once since there was only one damage and he was exhausted as hell -... Minato's jutsu required o ton of chakra that's why he sealed Kyuubi into Naruto so he can have enough chakra to do taht jutsu ... everything was said by J-Man ... so here i am being ratioal and i am doing on facts from Manga

Man have you ever predicted anything?..''THAT JUTSU'' ..is supposed to be a prediction?I was wondering n analyzing facts(cuts on the tress).

hmm predicted? lets say it i was right ... for example Itachi's clones not being shadow clones

TOBI=Madara

so lets say i predict that: THAT JUTSU we see is THAT JUTSU from Minato, that jutsu J-Man was talking about and told Naruto not to use it ... based on facts

and don't get me bad or anything but how could he throw FRS if he can't throw regular Rasengan?? it's same jutsu just stronger ... let me remind you that Rasengan is based on concetrating chakra in PALM it makes typhoon bnecause you retain it in whole so when it leaves your hand you can't retain it so it would most probably vanish into thin air ...

so that menas you CAN'T motherfücklingly throw it sry but i just can't get over it ... re-read manga and try to understand nature of that jutsu what it has to be done to make it and to be functioning than try to say anything logicla based on rules of this manga

[mandelak]

well he wouldnt just try it out once and then be tired he has obviously tried it several times and then started getting the hang of it. he only just used up a lot of chakra getting to that stage thats why he is tired. that first one we saw was not him trying it out for the first time he probably has been trying it out a lot and then finally started to get the hang of it. and by the time we see him he is tired and warn out and has done something but all the failed attempts still take chakra and warn him out, possibly more than actually getting the jutsu down



well he would teach him the steps on how to do a jutsu and then tell him you can only use it when you have control over kyuubi. naruto thinking now in sage mode he should be able to preform it tries it out in sage mode, but i dont think its that jutsu minato left him.i think the jutsu minato left for him specifically needs him to learn to control kyuubi.

[yasuo]

well he would teach him the steps on how to do a jutsu and then tell him you can only use it when you have control over kyuubi. naruto thinking now in sage mode he should be able to preform it tries it out in sage mode, but i dont think its that jutsu minato left him.i think the jutsu minato left for him specifically needs him to learn to control kyuubi.

oh sorry i didn't thought about it...
this would make sense. but the only thing i don't understand, how was naruto able to train this jutsu? we all know naruto is not the cleverest... only say him how to use it and in the future, naruto is going to train this jutsu? how could he be confident "that jutsu" will be strong enough?

hmm... maybe jiraya showed him "that jutsu" but it could be possibly, that someone need a bijuu or rather a huge amount of chakra to use it. the story gets very intense and i'm a little confused so many questions ^^

kishi is continuous adding more questions for the reader but he slowly answers these questions.

[kiroisenko]

i knew it those lil peace thing and pein face i think that is true identity.

[Murdock]

well he wouldnt just try it out once and then be tired he has obviously tried it several times and then started getting the hang of it.

there you ee that only ONE tree(or whateva) is gone and Naruto is totally drained and i mean TOTTALY

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/418/10/

tehre you see that many are gone so it's probably one hit thing that drains him that much

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/421/10/ see?

i doubt that after ony cut and being that drained he would be able to do it several times as you pointed out

[yasuo]

there you ee that only ONE tree(or whateva) is gone and Naruto is totally drained and i mean TOTTALY

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/418/10/

tehre you see that many are gone so it's probably one hit thing that drains him that much

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/421/10/ see?

i doubt that after ony cut and being that drained he would be able to do it several times as you pointed out

i agree with you because if this jutsu is realy as strong as we think, than it would be very exhausting even for naruto...

[Murdock]

well yes but what i wanted to point out is that after one successful try i repeat ONE http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/418/10/ he is exhausted as sh!t ... so that means it contradicts with what mandelak said

and nicely fit into my theory abou THAT JUTSU since Naruto could use FRS 3-times in one day and wasn'T taht dead-tired

[Hyugumaki]

I'm starting to wonder if Danzou will somehow stab Tsunade in the back when he gets the chance. It's looking like he's going to use this as an opportunity to get rid of those standing in his way of becoming the leader of the village. My question is how can he expect to run the village if the belief system has been set in place that the hokage is the strongest one amongst them and here's Danzou with a bunk eye and arm.

Oh yeah, Sakura kicking the crap outa that centipede was awesome and I thought the other nin's reaction to it was laughable. "Oh, looks like she killed it. How quaint. Yes, yes, indubitably." Come ON! One little girl took out a giant f-ing centipede and all they say is "oh, she took it out. Ok." MY GOD! give her more props than that! Yeesh.

Oh, and if Naruto is trying to be inconspicuous with his training, slicing trees the size of skyscrapers doesn't help out with that. I think a frog or two would notice one day a tree standing tall and the next, SLICED IN HALF! Where's the logic in that.

What a great chapter. I'm stoked and anxious for next weeks!

[PirUnravel]

something struck me when you said that
I can't believe Tobi is Madara, but let's just say he is.
I haven't heard he was the Mizukage, but whatever.


OK Folks -- I'm gonna go ahead and make a pretty damn accurate prediction about Madara, Tobi, and Danzou.

This is coming from someone who told EVERYONE on this board like 8 months ago that Tobi maybe isn't Madara... and Danzou could be Madara. I was flamed horribly for it... everyone ridiculed me and said I was stupid because the "Databooks didn't say so".

I believe that Danzou is closely related to Madara. It is my current prediction that Danzou is actually Madara's brother. I think that Madara lied to Sasuke about a lot of the eye transferring. Possibly, Madara didn't kill his brother... but just switched one eye each... and his brother didn't die but became eternal. If you look at Madara and Danzou... they look A LOT alike but not totally. Also, they are covering up separate eyes.

I think that Danzou is probably Madara's brother... and he has one EMS (HIS left eye) and Madara has one EMS (HIS right eye). I think they have planned for a VERY LONG TIME to overthrow Konoha. They both share a vendetta against the Senju bloodline... and we all know that means Tsunade.

see the similarities in glares (mood):

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/421/17/

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/395/17/

I think I'm on to something here!!!

edit: my logic is already stated, Murdock. And I think I clearly remember you as one of my hecklers earlier this year.

[Murdock]

logic? :D ok

plus Danzou doesn't need to stab her in the back this situation will make it for himself ... now he just needs to sit and wait till
a) Konoha is destroyed and he will say that it's her fault or
b) wait till she dies and take over the Konoha with his personal army ... which is supposed to happen (i mean Tsudane dying)


still don't get why you post those two pictures? just because of doom atmosphere that's drawn or what? ... or to boost your story about switching eyes ... well i say that's sound pretty good technically it's possible ... but i doubt that Hashirama wouldn't noticed that man who was supposed to be dead lives actually and it was said (in the manga - personally i see there a big mistake form Ksihi) that they (SArutobi and Danzou) fought for position and Sandaime was made hokage by Hashirama himself so he porbably had to know Danzou as well


EDIT: ehm another if they are Madara and danzou brothers and working together why Danzou wanted to kill Sasuke? when Madara clearly wanted him to be alive?

anyway it's great theory with no flaws but forgive me if i am not gonna believe you since we (me and you) argued about Tobi=Madara

i think that danzou is just Danzou evil character nothing more but if this is gonan come true then hats off

[Dragoon910]

Naruto didn't take all of the trees out in one shot. Yall keep talking about logic, but all of the cuts don't line up. The center three do, not to mention they are the only ones that have smoke coming off of them, so logically these were the only ones affected by the last attack. This also means he's done it more than once.

[Murdock]

yeah only one line so that means there are three lines ... one done by the night before that one now and the third some time between ... still it not that much tries ... and what i pointed out that it consumes too much chakra to be practicing it over and over again ...

[Dragoon910]

There's some problems with that theory also though, on the right side there is damage to one of the trees that goes behind a still intact section of a tree. So that means it wasn't in a straight line then, also there is like five different angle on the flat surfaces of the damaged trees.

For the people claiming it's frs thrown, the surfaces left are flat, when frs was used it left a round crater because it's in the form of a sphere. This clearly rules out this technique being frs.

From reading so far on the forums it seems like people believe it cut the trees, but you would be able to see the tops on the ground if this was the case. So this leaves him completely destroying or teleporting them to another dimension(no basis for naruto to be able to do this though). Which means he has learned/taught himself a long range techniqe that destroys stuff on a massive scale(those trees are huge).

[ACPRO]

I was really hoping that all those bodies were merely seperated parts of peins chakra. But there is really nothing that points to that so throwing that out.

And i swear if i have to keep typing in Pein, i might just type penis by accident.

[estranged]

so type pain, that's the correct spelling.

prediction: kakashi owned, danzou acting all innocent in front of people, fukusucku impressed by naruto's development (again), and some more explosions

[Eutropious]

I had post this a while back, so he we go. I still believe Danzou release the nine-tail on konoha 16 year ago. I don't have time to go on details but any thought

[letsrock0303]

so type pain, that's the correct spelling.

prediction: kakashi owned, danzou acting all innocent in front of people, fukusucku impressed by naruto's development (again), and some more explosions

Actually in japanese phonetics it is spelled "Pein". e makes an "eh" sound and i makes an "ee" sound say them together and you get the rough equivalent of a long a sound in english.

And as far as Danzou... I doubt it. We haven't seen any evidence that says Danzou had any control or connection with Kyuubi

[corytheanimator]

Actually in japanese phonetics it is spelled "Pein". e makes an "eh" sound and i makes an "ee" sound say them together and you get the rough equivalent of a long a sound in english.

So in japanese when his name is said, it sounds like "pein"? I thought his name was the japanese word for pain.

[Karin<3]

So in japanese when his name is said, it sounds like "pein"? I thought his name was the japanese word for pain.

No lol

He's name is translated to Pein, which is romanized to Pain, so it doesn't matter how you type it i guess.

[-Erios-]

really i dont see what the big deal is about how you type the name....Pain,Pein,Penis, sounds the same

[corytheanimator]

really i dont see what the big deal is about how you type the name....Pain,Pein,Penis, sounds the same

It wasn't a big deal it was just a question. I don't read japanese and actually pein in english can be pronounced "peen", as in ball pein hammer depending on where you're from. Other than that pein doesn't mean anything in english but pain does, and since he's always talking about pain I had always assumed that his name was a japanese word for pain.
I'm glad we got that cleared up. :thumb:

[Dream Catcher]

maybe if you're from "dee huud"

[nagato]

OK Folks -- I'm gonna go ahead and make a pretty damn accurate prediction about Madara, Tobi, and Danzou.

This is coming from someone who told EVERYONE on this board like 8 months ago that Tobi maybe isn't Madara... and Danzou could be Madara. I was flamed horribly for it... everyone ridiculed me and said I was stupid because the "Databooks didn't say so".

I believe that Danzou is closely related to Madara. It is my current prediction that Danzou is actually Madara's brother. I think that Madara lied to Sasuke about a lot of the eye transferring. Possibly, Madara didn't kill his brother... but just switched one eye each... and his brother didn't die but became eternal. If you look at Madara and Danzou... they look A LOT alike but not totally. Also, they are covering up separate eyes.

I think that Danzou is probably Madara's brother... and he has one EMS (HIS left eye) and Madara has one EMS (HIS right eye). I think they have planned for a VERY LONG TIME to overthrow Konoha. They both share a vendetta against the Senju bloodline... and we all know that means Tsunade.

see the similarities in glares (mood):

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/421/17/

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/395/17/

I think I'm on to something here!!!

edit: my logic is already stated, Murdock. And I think I clearly remember you as one of my hecklers earlier this year.


how is that possible if we have seen madara taking his brothers eyes. looks nothing like danzo and we also have seen madaras ems in both eyes not just 1, meaning that ur theory is faulted

[-Erios-]

OK Folks -- I'm gonna go ahead and make a pretty damn accurate prediction about Madara, Tobi, and Danzou.

This is coming from someone who told EVERYONE on this board like 8 months ago that Tobi maybe isn't Madara... and Danzou could be Madara. I was flamed horribly for it... everyone ridiculed me and said I was stupid because the "Databooks didn't say so".

I believe that Danzou is closely related to Madara. It is my current prediction that Danzou is actually Madara's brother. I think that Madara lied to Sasuke about a lot of the eye transferring. Possibly, Madara didn't kill his brother... but just switched one eye each... and his brother didn't die but became eternal. If you look at Madara and Danzou... they look A LOT alike but not totally. Also, they are covering up separate eyes.

I think that Danzou is probably Madara's brother... and he has one EMS (HIS left eye) and Madara has one EMS (HIS right eye). I think they have planned for a VERY LONG TIME to overthrow Konoha. They both share a vendetta against the Senju bloodline... and we all know that means Tsunade.

see the similarities in glares (mood):

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/421/17/

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/395/17/

I think I'm on to something here!!!

edit: my logic is already stated, Murdock. And I think I clearly remember you as one of my hecklers earlier this year.


umm....

madara-tobi-mizukage-uchiha founder-sasuke father figure-"dead as some know him"-brother abuser--rival of shodaime-founder of root-enemy of tsunade-warlike-friend of kisame-teacher of sai-enemy of third hokage (danzou and him did battle for the title of hokage)-frog killer-time space ninjutsu user-best sharingan user alive -best ems user alive -the real leader of akatsuki

since you pride yourself that you are right with your theory mind filling all of the plot holes that this would create....
conclusion: Madara=/=Danzou

[Murdock]

He said that Danzou is Madara's brother not Madara but wow man you summed it perfectely ;) ROFL ;) great

[CaptainWolf8]

Danzou Cant be Tobi/Madara and or madara's brother... because if i was a "smart" Madara (or Madara bro) i would let Naruto come back so i could take over the 9TF with my EMS and proclaim myself hokage... so if he was Madara he just let the oportunity of his life get away... or has even bigger plans... or they both are good liers and are plain stupid... NO FLAME INTENDED JUST IN DISAPROVAL OF YOUR OPINION -_-

[roy1993]

OK Folks -- I'm gonna go ahead and make a pretty damn accurate prediction about Madara, Tobi, and Danzou.

This is coming from someone who told EVERYONE on this board like 8 months ago that Tobi maybe isn't Madara... and Danzou could be Madara. I was flamed horribly for it... everyone ridiculed me and said I was stupid because the "Databooks didn't say so".

I believe that Danzou is closely related to Madara. It is my current prediction that Danzou is actually Madara's brother. I think that Madara lied to Sasuke about a lot of the eye transferring. Possibly, Madara didn't kill his brother... but just switched one eye each... and his brother didn't die but became eternal. If you look at Madara and Danzou... they look A LOT alike but not totally. Also, they are covering up separate eyes.

I think that Danzou is probably Madara's brother... and he has one EMS (HIS left eye) and Madara has one EMS (HIS right eye). I think they have planned for a VERY LONG TIME to overthrow Konoha. They both share a vendetta against the Senju bloodline... and we all know that means Tsunade.

see the similarities in glares (mood):

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/421/17/

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/395/17/

I think I'm on to something here!!!

edit: my logic is already stated, Murdock. And I think I clearly remember you as one of my hecklers earlier this year.

Right when I read the manga this morning i thought the sme thing. RIght when he killed that frog it just seemsed right. And to whoever said that we saw him taking his brothers eyes, we were just seeing his point o view when he was telling sasuke. It wasn't like it really happened, cuz we all know he didnt tell the truth about everything. And also WE NEVER SAW HIS SECOND EYE! Not now. And maybe after he fought Senju he gave his brothers eye back. You cant totally discredit this theory, there is not enough information to proof it and there is not enough information to discredt it either. You have to look at this and say "It is possible"?"maybe". but there is oo little information to discredit it.

[dharq]

It wasn't a big deal it was just a question. I don't read japanese and actually pein in english can be pronounced "peen", as in ball pein hammer depending on where you're from. Other than that pein doesn't mean anything in english but pain does, and since he's always talking about pain I had always assumed that his name was a japanese word for pain.
I'm glad we got that cleared up. :thumb:

Um, since you're going all English teacher on us, name one English, one-syllable word using the "ein" construct that is pronounced "een". Just to compare apples to apples and all that...

[NarutoforHokage]

well if u look at danzo and mardara, their same eye is covered so they cant have just swapped eyes, the Tobi=Obito theory is more logical that way, and that theory is already thrown out the window. Danzo is Danzo just leave it at that until proven other wise.

[ChillO]

My prediction? Naruto will get banished from Myobokuzan, I know I would've! ;p He completely ruined their home, so frog reactions should be hillarious. Hope for some humor next chapter.

[MattLad]

well if u look at danzo and mardara, their same eye is covered so they cant have just swapped eyes, the Tobi=Obito theory is more logical that way, and that theory is already thrown out the window. Danzo is Danzo just leave it at that until proven other wise.

actually your wrong tobis left eye is Sharingan and his right eye is covered (which could be because his right eye is normal)

Danzous right eye is showing and his left eye is covered (which could be because the left eye is always in a state of sharingan.

[naruto_fan_390]

Ok I got a couple things I want to get out there to u guy to get your thoughts.

Wow that chapter was of the hook. It show us at but it didn’t seemed rushed (to me at least). So we know Naruto isn’t going to fight pain on this go around. I think that in the next three chapters we'll see pain leaving the village finding out Naruto isn’t there. Also so more cool new Jutsu from Tenzu and Kakashi.

Now the second thing I notice was there is no way this mange is about to end. Now we're going to have a civil war on our hands. Naruto still has to kill Pain, Sasake, Kabuto and maybe there is a war with the rain, and mist.

And oh I’m happy Naruto isn’t coming back so soon. I think he needs more time to learn more Jutsu, and prefect the SM without the frogs on his body.

[Murdock]

man you're quite oposit ... Danzou's right eye is covered and Tobi's right eye is on at we saw it couple of times...


And oh I’m happy Naruto isn’t coming back so soon. I think he needs more time to learn more Jutsu, and prefect the SM without the frogs on his body.

actually if he doesn't learn how to be still while moving i don't think that he can learn it ... he needs Pa to guard him while agthering chakra ... then he needs him after he is off (sage chakra runs out) he needs Pa on his shoulder to stay stil and gather while Pa is fighting and while Naruto is fighting Pa is on his shoulder still and gathering and tehy switch it every time they have chance so

no i don't think that he can learn it but maybe Kishi is pulling something out of his ass like always

[naruto_fan_390]

man you're quite oposit ... Danzou's right eye is covered and Tobi's right eye is on at we saw it couple of times...



actually if he doesn't learn how to be still while moving i don't think that he can learn it ... he needs Pa to guard him while agthering chakra ... then he needs him after he is off (sage chakra runs out) he needs Pa on his shoulder to stay stil and gather while Pa is fighting and while Naruto is fighting Pa is on his shoulder still and gathering and tehy switch it every time they have chance so

no i don't think that he can learn it but maybe Kishi is pulling something out of his ass like always

Yeah I think kasha is. I just do think he'll put the frog on his shoulder because he wants to give us the awe Naruto is fucking hard moment. (It will probably show pa saying he is truly amazing he doesn’t even need me to stay in sage mode)

I think I know how he can do it to all he has to do is become friends with the 9 tails. Have him sit steal. Or just send out a big ass frog to give him time. BUT DAMNIT NARUTO DOESNT NEEDS FROG ON HIS SHOULDERS. I love kittens. :)

[nagato]

id get it. when fukusususuuska went into sage mode it took him like 2 seconds to do it. so if naruto could do that wouldnt he be able to do that without the frogs on shoulders fusion

[roy1993]

well if u look at danzo and mardara, their same eye is covered so they cant have just swapped eyes, the Tobi=Obito theory is more logical that way, and that theory is already thrown out the window. Danzo is Danzo just leave it at that until proven other wise.

Guy WTF r u smoking!? Danzo is missing his right eye, and Madara is missing his left, that means that Madara has Danzos left eye< possibly. So wat u just said rightnow made u look really stupid!

[mandelak]

unless madara changes his hairstyle everytime before going to konoha than he isnt madara. they have different hairstyles


there you ee that only ONE tree(or whateva) is gone and Naruto is totally drained and i mean TOTTALY

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/418/10/

tehre you see that many are gone so it's probably one hit thing that drains him that much

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/421/10/ see?

i doubt that after ony cut and being that drained he would be able to do it several times as you pointed out



you still dont get what im saying.

just because he got one tree it doesnt mean that is the reason he is drained.

he has obviously been trying it out and failed attempts use probably just as much or more chakra than a completed attempt. so he would be drained from trying it and failing as well as that last shot which he probably was already drained but done and pulled it off anyway.

if you read what he says http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/418/10/

"i think i got it"

which to me implies that he has been trying it for ages and is now starting to understand the mechanics behind it. so all that time trying to figure it out and using chakra to do so would've been the reason why he looks so drained as well. so until he uses it fresh in a fight we wont know exactly how much chakra it takes. coz he could've been trying for hours on end before getting that result

[White Snake 66]

im starting to wonder if naruto changed the rasengan i mean the effect, shape, and damage of it.Well i know it cuts stuff and it looks like he has been trying to do it for along time so it probably does not hurt him and probably can use it multiple times.

hopefully he will learn more justsus or maybe his dad`s yellow flash jutsu.ill be more happy if he just has his dad`s jutsu rather than 5 other jutsus.

[ChillO]

you have to be still to enter sage mode in order to collect shakra. Once you collected the sage shakra you can fight with it and use it, but it runs out and its not really effective if you have to sit on the spot collecting shakra in the middle of battle. Thats why the frog sits still on narutos shoulder to constantly gather shakra while naruto does the fighting.

[White Snake 66]

i dont think that danzo is madara i mean just for team 7 to get to the hide out to save garra took 2 days.imagen how many times danzo/madara:lever:would have to travel and just no.i think that tobi could be anybody maybe some dude that was trained by madara himself,before madara died he probably gave up his eyes to him and he became obssesed with the power and called himself madara and he was probably known by everybody like that and don`t tell me that people dont have X personalities:decision:
just a opinion:biggrin1:

fukasaku is a really deeeeeeeep sleeper because just looking at the destruction that that jutsu made it must be really loud:biggrin1:

Prediction
i think the next episode is called "kakashis hope" so either someone comes in or kakashi has no other but to use MS:eek:

[Seraphiel]

i dont think that danzo is madara i mean just for team 7 to get to the hide out to save garra took 2 days.imagen how many times danzo/madara:lever:would have to travel and just no.i think that tobi could be anybody maybe some dude that was trained by madara himself,before madara died he probably gave up his eyes to him and he became obssesed with the power and called himself madara and he was probably known by everybody like that and don`t tell me that people dont have X personalities:decision:
just a opinion:biggrin1:

fukasaku is a really deeeeeeeep sleeper because just looking at the destruction that that jutsu made it must be really loud:biggrin1:

Prediction
i think the next episode is called "kakashis hope" so either someone comes in or kakashi has no other but to use MS:eek:

He will either beat the hell relm or get badly beaten and crippled thus the only option remaining would be dying or getting saved by some1.


About madara and danzou if he was madara he would have no problem traveling around since we saw some of the most advanced space-time jutsus from madara,although I think danzou is danzou and madara is madara.

[ACPRO]

either way the next few chapters will confirm one of 2 things.

1. kakshi dieing, thus making pein narutos main enemy (though i doubt kakashi is dieing here)

I was hoping in actuality that all tsunade, kakashi, and maybe one of narutos generation characters would all die when sasuke decides to raid konoha instead of pein. And i figured thats when naruto would go all out to test what hes capable of.

2. Naruto saves kakshi, and kishi pretty much confirms that naruto has now risen above kakashis level and is almost near sannin level.

3. Pein kills tsunade (highly doubt, not quite yet seeing how i really dont consider this attack to be an all out "Destroy konoha" and i highly doubt that pein by himself could destroy konoha anyways)

4. Naruto is not killing pein nor defeating him just yet. So no that aint happening. He may suprise him though.

[xxdyntaexx]

This theory was proposed by someone a long time ago, that Madara is actually just a ... ghost basically, not a material entity. Dunno how it works, but yup, quite possible imo

Reminds me of Anubis in stargate SG1 LOL!

okay. i read to about page 5. but am tired so il do the rest 2mora.. can i just say, that i think your all underestimateing kakashi..

he is LEET! the copycat ninja who has mastered over 1000 techniques. am not saying he will win. but he certainly wont need help if he has to escape. he will hold his own for at least a chapter or 2. then some sort of interfearance will come. and pein will retreat.. i repeat kakashi will hold his own!!!

long live kakashi!

EDIT
PS: o.. i kno this would be sucky as it would probably totally shorten the storyline.. but could you imagin if naru, gets the message.. and heads back.. at the same time emo sasuke decides hes gonna "crush konoha" am talking 3way showdown!! WELL NOT 3WAY.. PEIN IS KINDA LOADS OF PEOPLE..

[Seraphiel]

I think Tsuande will die either by Danzous hand or by Sasukes.


i would love a scene where he calls her a senju bitch and kills her with chidori eisou

[White Snake 66]

He will either beat the hell relm or get badly beaten and crippled thus the only option remaining would be dying or getting saved by some1.


About madara and danzou if he was madara he would have no problem traveling around since we saw some of the most advanced space-time jutsus from madara,although I think danzou is danzou and madara is madara.

true that about the space/time jutsu and it would just be to much trouble for danzo if he was madara

[White Snake 66]

Reminds me of Anubis in stargate SG1 LOL!

okay. i read to about page 5. but am tired so il do the rest 2mora.. can i just say, that i think your all underestimateing kakashi..

he is LEET! the copycat ninja who has mastered over 1000 techniques. am not saying he will win. but he certainly wont need help if he has to escape. he will hold his own for at least a chapter or 2. then some sort of interfearance will come. and pein will retreat.. i repeat kakashi will hold his own!!!

long live kakashi!

EDIT
PS: o.. i kno this would be sucky as it would probably totally shorten the storyline.. but could you imagin if naru, gets the message.. and heads back.. at the same time emo sasuke decides hes gonna "crush konoha" am talking 3way showdown!! WELL NOT 3WAY.. PEIN IS KINDA LOADS OF PEOPLE..

i hope what you say is true man and kakashi will hold

it would be awsome if they all met up but it is almost imposible

[ACPRO]

He will either beat the hell relm or get badly beaten and crippled thus the only option remaining would be dying or getting saved by some1.


About madara and danzou if he was madara he would have no problem traveling around since we saw some of the most advanced space-time jutsus from madara,although I think danzou is danzou and madara is madara.

would be kinda awkward for no one to notice that danzou was madara especially since danzou was pretty much competing with the 3rd hokage, therefore he must have known the 1st and the 2nd hokage. And i doubt ALL 3 of them would be tricked that easily.

[Seraphiel]

would be kinda awkward for no one to notice that danzou was madara especially since danzou was pretty much competing with the 3rd hokage, therefore he must have known the 1st and the 2nd hokage. And i doubt ALL 3 of them would be tricked that easily.

I agree thats why I say he isn't Danzou.

I miss sasuke :(.

[White Snake 66]

can we just put the danzo/madara out of the picture it is just not happening

[Seraphiel]

We are discusing nothing is out of the picture except for my dear Sasuke.

[White Snake 66]

get out of his sack

ok lets discuss danzo is not madara end of dicussion

new topic who is happy that sasuke is out of the cool squres with cool drawings on them

[The_Last_True_Uchiha]

Prediction: At the end of the next chapter we will get a shocking revalation!!! (Drum roll please) Kakashi will use That no Justu, after declaring he has figured pain out...

[ykobra]

421 is out, grab it here (http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/421/01/).

Tsunade shows her faith in Naruto, but communications between the two parties have been severed, what will they do?! And what does Danzou plan to do? Predict away!

PM for poll.

hi guys i am new but i been around for almost a year but and i always read the posts (spoilers and predictions)
but i am not that much of a writer but seems that i can not hold it any longer.

about danzou being madara's brother i dont think so reason why it's because danzou fought with the 3rd for hokage and if im not mistaken madara and his brother were almost the same age and since danzou was there when the fist and second he must been known the elders who were the ame age as him at that and at this time around.
i think danzou has grudge against the previous hokages and some ulterior motives but he is certainely no related to madara.

[White Snake 66]

hi guys i am new but i been around for almost a year but and i always read the posts (spoilers and predictions)
but i am not that much of a writer but seems that i can not hold it any longer.

about danzou being madara's brother i dont think so reason why it's because danzou fought with the 3rd for hokage and if im not mistaken madara and his brother were almost the same age and since danzou was there when the fist and second he must been known the elders who were the ame age as him at that and at this time around.
i think danzou has grudge against the previous hokages and some ulterior motives but he is certainely no related to madara.

Thank you
jeez where did this idea came from anyway

[White Snake 66]

Danzo madaras little bro reason why is not true

madara almost 20-25 year difference to danzo
Madaras parents : to old to bang

[roy1993]

im starting to wonder if naruto changed the rasengan i mean the effect, shape, and damage of it.Well i know it cuts stuff and it looks like he has been trying to do it for along time so it probably does not hurt him and probably can use it multiple times.

hopefully he will learn more justsus or maybe his dad`s yellow flash jutsu.ill be more happy if he just has his dad`s jutsu rather than 5 other jutsus.

Well he did make it stronger. The only thing imwondering is that maybe he can throw it now? cuz u all saw how far the blast went it sliced through like 4 mountains! and that means that the blast went sraigh so mayb he can throw it now? So his Rasengan has gottne stronger.

And remmeber when he used it on Kakuzu even Yamato said that his training wasnt complete yet, so that means if "hes got it" like he said then it must be a lot stronger than t was on Kakuzu

[White Snake 66]

Well he did make it stronger. The only thing imwondering is that maybe he can throw it now? cuz u all saw how far the blast went it sliced through like 4 mountains! and that means that the blast went sraigh so mayb he can throw it now? So his Rasengan has gottne stronger.

And remmeber when he used it on Kakuzu even Yamato said that his training wasnt complete yet, so that means if "hes got it" like he said then it must be a lot stronger than t was on Kakuzu

it would be too awsome to see naruto with new rasengan and his dad`s jutsu just appear next to Pain,Madara,or sasuke and blow them up or slice them in half hahahah:thumb:

[roy1993]

hi guys i am new but i been around for almost a year but and i always read the posts (spoilers and predictions)
but i am not that much of a writer but seems that i can not hold it any longer.

about danzou being madara's brother i dont think so reason why it's because danzou fought with the 3rd for hokage and if im not mistaken madara and his brother were almost the same age and since danzou was there when the fist and second he must been known the elders who were the ame age as him at that and at this time around.
i think danzou has grudge against the previous hokages and some ulterior motives but he is certainely no related to madara.

Well its a theory with not much facts to support, but It would be coolto fnd out if they really were brothers. Also he ay still be working with him, you never know. Cuz if Danzo was trying to beat out saritobi, then that means he must have almost been his equal. So he might be strionger than Tsunde or even Pein?

[White Snake 66]

Well its a theory with not much facts to support, but It would be coolto fnd out if they really were brothers. Also he ay still be working with him, you never know. Cuz if Danzo was trying to beat out saritobi, then that means he must have almost been his equal. So he might be strionger than Tsunde or even Pein?

Madaras parents : to old to bang

[roy1993]

it would be too awsome to see naruto with new rasengan and his dad`s jutsu just appear next to Pain,Madara,or sasuke and blow them up or slice them in half hahahah:thumb:

Yeah! that would be awsome. Man I just cant wait for Naruto to just be the bad ass of the story. Like at the end of Avatar when he was the stronest MOFO out there. I hope it does end like that. But also then again you know how throughout the story they always say that the responsibilty of the hokage is to die for your village. Maybe he'l die after he becomes hokage? I hope not though.

[naruto_fan_390]

[QUOTE=xxdyntaexx;742501]Reminds me of Anubis in stargate SG1 LOL!

okay. i read to about page 5. but am tired so il do the rest 2mora.. can i just say, that i think your all underestimateing kakashi..
QUOTE]

yeah i agree. people here really are underestimating kakashi. he should have the highest jutsu rating on the manga sence he knows 1000 jutsu. so out of those 1000 he has to have something in there to at least hang with a couple of pains bodies.

but he might even kill some of the pain bodies. think about it tsundae is about to die sooner or later and we all know kakashi is next in line to be hokage. all the hokages have great record/ repore with the whole village. kakashi need to build his repore with the village not the other nin.

what batter way to show how hard you are by killing some super ninja that has attacked your village.

[White Snake 66]

Yeah! that would be awsome. Man I just cant wait for Naruto to just be the bad ass of the story. Like at the end of Avatar when he was the stronest MOFO out there. I hope it does end like that. But also then again you know how throughout the story they always say that the responsibilty of the hokage is to die for your village. Maybe he'l die after he becomes hokage? I hope not though.

Avatar was the SH you know

i dont think death is for naruto it would mess everthing up he would go through all of that to die at the end i don think so but like the theory

[roy1993]

But yeah I would be so happy of Naruto can just wup out a can of woop ass on someone. He hasnt really done that Since Oro, and he still ended up kinda being beaten. Man I agree I just want him to go right up to someone that is suppoedly really strong and just BBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!
Kill their ass With Rasen Shuriken!

[chopra]

Kakashi will remove his mouth scarf and unleash a new set of powers never seen before. Before that, there will be flashbacks on why he cover his mouth~ :)

[ykobra]

well about danzo fighting sarutobi he is the link that mantion about it.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/284/17/ also
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/285/17/

[wind33]

My prediction for next chapter is that we'll see more of the Kakashi-Pein battle. Hopefully we get more info on how to stop Pein...Maybe see some of the other rookie-nine play a larger role and see how much they have grown...

[jiraiya san]

there is a probability that danzou killed the frog because he was told by the advisers of tsunade because of what they said when they were living the room

[-Erios-]

most likely Danzou acted on his own free will he just doesnt seem to be the type that would take orders... from

[roy1993]

My prediction for next chapter is that we'll see more of the Kakashi-Pein battle. Hopefully we get more info on how to stop Pein...Maybe see some of the other rookie-nine play a larger role and see how much they have grown...

Yeah I think well see kakshi use MS, and some of the other rookie nin getting some action too. Also how will Naruto ind out now? maybe Fukusaku will like sense that one of the frogs died and send Naruto to check on it? maybe something like that.

[mandelak]

naruto is not going to know and he isnt gonna go back to help. he will spend more time in M. mountain.

imo kishi was just showing us the beggining of his training now that we know he isnt gonna be called back we wont see much of naruto at all. he will be training there for a while. may be possible for a time skip if kishi is still planning on a time skip. it will be konoha under the control of danzou all the shinobi will be older sakura will be head of the med team. and akatsuki will move on with plans.

it is possible for a time skip.

[ACPRO]

that would be kinda awkward and hilarious. Though danzo should use sakura as a sex slave. Ino can join in to. So can erios.

But yea mandalek, i hope that actually does happen, because itll just make the storyline more epic once naruto brings down danzo and frees konoha from its tyranny.

[roy1993]

naruto is not going to know and he isnt gonna go back to help. he will spend more time in M. mountain.

imo kishi was just showing us the beggining of his training now that we know he isnt gonna be called back we wont see much of naruto at all. he will be training there for a while. may be possible for a time skip if kishi is still planning on a time skip. it will be konoha under the control of danzou all the shinobi will be older sakura will be head of the med team. and akatsuki will move on with plans.

it is possible for a time skip.

That would be a good twist but I dont want that to hapen, I mean that would Tsunde will die, and she is the last of the sannin. Dang man where do you get these facs about what Kishi plans for the Mangas? I am curious tolook into this. People are talking about how Kishi wanted to talk more about Kakashi and sakura, so where is the place to find this info?

[PirUnravel]

(holds up hands to defend himself)

I am the one that keeps resurfacing the "Danzou has a direct link to Tobi" theory.

I have been saying it for a while... and though I used to say Danzou = Tobi... I now feel that Danzou could be his brother or direct relative. I really think he is a sharingan user... or perhaps the real Pain.

There is no way we can 100% prove or disprove this theory until many chapters have passed. I am sorry it angers some of you... but I am also glad that some of you support the theory and add to it. ^_^

Hmm... there are so many key players here that we have no idea about:

Zetsu
Pain
Tobi
Madara (again, I am the idiot who still thinks Tobi may not actually be Madara) ^_^

[Tazuwukei]

I predict that Danzou will use Pains attack to take control of the village, aid Tsunades death from fighting Pain somehow, and stopping her final words appointing someone else trustworthy Hokage. The elders will gain control of the village, and appoint someone in root, or someone loyal to the elders, or themselves as hokage. Why didn't they do this before? If Konoha has Sage level ninja, they're always first choice for Hokage. With the 3rd, Jiraiya and Tsunade dead, they can appoint whoever they want Hokage, that is another reason why Naruto not returning is important to them. If he doesn't return in this time of need for Konoha, he'll be frowned upon for not helping, and not be seen as a loyal defender of Konoha to most of the village, which won't exactly help him become Hokage. The elders will then be able to get away with their plot.

I also predict that Naruto will return in a long time after his training and a journey back to Konoha, and during that journey home he will bump into 8-tails who will be pursued by Hawk, because the attack on Konoha has been delayed until they capture the 8-tails. Sasuke will tell Naruto of the hardship Konoha has gone through, Naruto will sway Sasuke over back onto the good side (after a battle of course, and Itachi's hidden memory/MS counter on Naruto activates), and 8-tails (who has taken a liking to Naruto) will forgive Sasuke for trying to capture him, and then 8-tails + Sasuke + Naruto will plot a plan to overthrow the elders. On the way Akatsuki will intervene, Naruto + Sasuke + 8-tails will win, then the overthrowing will be successful after much internal conflict + battles, Naruto will become Hokage, and Sasuke will be forgiven for his betrayal thanks to 8-tails, who will return to wind/lightning(whatever) village (because wandering didn't suit him after all, and he wanted to help because he's a generally good person.) and say that Sasuke saved him, or something, and the attack seen on him by Uchiha was mistaken.

[the lost shinobi]

Well Danzou seems to be in the room with Tsunade when he killed the toad. Seems like Tsunade is going to have a tough time on her hands if Danzou is indeed with her in the room. He also has some balls on him to kill the toad in front of her. I hope they both go at it. Danzou kills Tsunade and becomes Hokage in her place. Now we have two antagonists. Danzou and Akatsuki!

[roy1993]

I predict that Danzou will use Pains attack to take control of the village, aid Tsunades death from fighting Pain somehow, and stopping her final words appointing someone else trustworthy Hokage. The elders will gain control of the village, and appoint someone in root, or someone loyal to the elders, or themselves as hokage. Why didn't they do this before? If Konoha has Sage level ninja, they're always first choice for Hokage. With the 3rd, Jiraiya and Tsunade dead, they can appoint whoever they want Hokage, that is another reason why Naruto not returning is important to them. If he doesn't return in this time of need for Konoha, he'll be frowned upon for not helping, and not be seen as a loyal defender of Konoha to most of the village, which won't exactly help him become Hokage. The elders will then be able to get away with their plot.

I also predict that Naruto will return in a long time after his training and a journey back to Konoha, and during that journey home he will bump into 8-tails who will be pursued by Hawk, because the attack on Konoha has been delayed until they capture the 8-tails. Sasuke will tell Naruto of the hardship Konoha has gone through, Naruto will sway Sasuke over back onto the good side (after a battle of course, and Itachi's hidden memory/MS counter on Naruto activates), and 8-tails (who has taken a liking to Naruto) will forgive Sasuke for trying to capture him, and then 8-tails + Sasuke + Naruto will plot a plan to overthrow the elders. On the way Akatsuki will intervene, Naruto + Sasuke + 8-tails will win, then the overthrowing will be successful after much internal conflict + battles, Naruto will become Hokage, and Sasuke will be forgiven for his betrayal thanks to 8-tails, who will return to wind/lightning(whatever) village (because wandering didn't suit him after all, and he wanted to help because he's a generally good person.) and say that Sasuke saved him, or something, and the attack seen on him by Uchiha was mistaken.

Dang this is a very well detailed theory. I would love t see this happen, I also think thatthe 8 tails will meet aruto and teach him a little on how to control his kyubbi. But the only thing I disagree with your theory is that, since Naruto and Sasuke are th 2 biggest rivals ofthe entire story I really think that their fight will be last! It has to be, although I like this theory, That is the only thing I have to disagree with. And i would like to add that maybe at the end when fighting sasuke he will use the kyuubi and then not be able to control him and then Sasuke will see the Suffering he has caused and he will control him with the MS. Then he will turn good. He may not return tothe village but I really think he will turn good only at the vey last partof the manga.

[roy1993]

Well Danzou seems to be in the room with Tsunade when he killed the toad. Seems like Tsunade is going to have a tough time on her hands if Danzou is indeed with her in the room. He also has some balls on him to kill the toad in front of her. I hope they both go at it. Danzou kills Tsunade and becomes Hokage in her place. Now we have two antagonists. Danzou and Akatsuki!

he didnt kill him in front of here, if ure rad the manga they ll leae the room, and then the toad is like well "i better getto fukasaku" and then e comes into the room and kills him. No one else saw him!

[zetsu]

raikage team will reinforce konoha immediately
s**t! danzoe is SOAB! what his true intention???a coup de etat again?? were'nt he plan to kill all uchiha? but why he stand in naruto way??? or...
he wants to protext village from nine tail rage or somethin,, i dunno. its real complicated..

love u... tsunade!!! no mistake youve ever done. i like what she did to the 2 old relics.haha:biggrin1:..n kakashi... damn! his one of my favourite.. i dreamed he would be a hokage before naruto. please... dont kill him that way...:rain:..

anyway... two thumbs up 4 kishimoto-san:thumb::thumb:

[dakmat]

My Prediction.
If Tsunade dies after fighting Pain and Danzou will be chosen as the Sixth Hokage, it might enraged Sasuke:mad: causing him to attack konoha at all costs:fencing:. Tobi Madara will surely be happy:banana: and helps him in destroying Konoha:fencing: together with Pain this time it will be total annihilation of the village. However, Naruto, at this time has mastered all sage techniques and THAT jutsu, will be called and it's a gonna a hell of a fight. Naruto will be owned by either Pain or Tobi/Madara forcing him to use Kyuubi's power. He will go 4 tails and still in control of himself. The enemies are forced to retreat but Danzou will die in this battle and Kakashi will become the next Hokage and then timeskip.

[roy1993]

damn man Everyone has swords! Kisame, Itchi, Sasuke, and now Danzou, even Hidan had a rapier i think u call it. and we need naruto to get one. I want Naruto to get one and look hella bad ass! Then him and sasuke when they fight can go samurai on each other!

[Dream Catcher]

Kisame was part of the 7 swordsmen and Danzou and Itachi and rest were/are in ANBU (all Anbu have swords) and Sasuke uses a sword to aid his fighting style... seriously, if everyone jumps off a cliff you'll do it as well?

Naruto is not a swrod-type fighter, he'll never have one. His wind affinity is his sword

[roy1993]

WTF!? you ge all technical about it. Who the hell cares. I just said it would be cool and you have to come in with all the nerdy ass shit like "it supports his fighting style" How the F#$% would u know? u arnt some expert. They never say it. For all u know it could be narutos style. If he got one he would look bad ass!

[roy1993]

I just thought of a weir theory so im gonna throw it out here

I think that the 9 tailed fox will be the one to tell Naruto that his father was one who locked him inside of him, and then hell figure i out that it was the 4th

He may not believe him but i think that is the way it might happen. Cuz u know how the fox fought him, I dont think the 4th just decided to use the sacrificial jutsu from the start he probably tried a few things. And the the fox may hve kinda got to know him. So maybe the fox will be like "you are so weak, even your cursed fathe, the one that locked me in here was stronger" or something like that. just like how he talked abut madara, he may brin up the 4th also.

[Hák-san]

Kisame was part of the 7 swordsmen and Danzou and Itachi and rest were/are in ANBU (all Anbu have swords) and Sasuke uses a sword to aid his fighting style... seriously, if everyone jumps off a cliff you'll do it as well?

Naruto is not a swrod-type fighter, he'll never have one. His wind affinity is his sword

I feel you man, I really do, but truth be told, Asuma was a wind type.. He had blades... I know, it was his fighting style, but I understood what he meant... It was like the previous ending song where Naruto and Sasuke crossed paths and both were samurai... Nothing more... (I guess...)

As for prediction, I liked that... But I doubt it... It had the chance to say so many times... What if the fox in Naruto is not that evil... It said once that madara´s eyes were darker than his own, I never forgot that statement... It´s a feeling, if it turns out that the Fox is like Hachibi and can get along fine with the Jinchuuriki, then it may tell him when he get strong enough, like: " Now that you can handle my power I will aid you in battle with all my might...(sounds lame, but you get the point...) and after, this was what your father wanted." Just a poor argument all-in-all...

As for now... to me, Danzo is NOT a good guy.. I can´t see it... It´s as if he is protecting pain... Why, maybe he wants to crush Konoha as it is and raise it afterwards as it´s Hokage...If so, Pain is going to destroi Konoha for him, and Naruto, being a village´s asset will play a major role in war for him...

[Erotique]

Hmm... How appropriate for Kishi to finally throw Danzou in the midst. He may be an old fart, but he certainly seems capable of using a sword at least. He is definitely a wild-card and it seems that with his appearance, the plot has thickened even further. It seems Kishi is planning to make a very complicated knots to the storyline.

How interesting...

[Seraphiel]

Hmm... How appropriate for Kishi to finally throw Danzou in the midst. He may be an old fart, but he certainly seems capable of using a sword at least. He is definitely a wild-card and it seems that with his appearance, the plot has thickened even further. It seems Kishi is planning to make a very complicated knots to the storyline.

How interesting...

Nah hes just extending it to get more money :D

[mangato]

1) Naruto is the kid of the prophecy.

This is the most important fact of the story now. Tsunade is calling naruto back because, the toads explained to her in detail the prophecy and she knows the details of what will happen according to the prophecy. Naruto has to come back and fulfil the prophecy.

2) Tsunade will fight one of the Peins...Tsunade will survive because she is the oldest of the heroes, she is a figure of authority on the manga. The success of the story is based on the fact that there is 4 generations interacting. The teenagers (naruto and co), the young adults (Kakashi and ...), the pre-teen (konohamaru) and the older generation (tsunade ...)

3) Kakashi will defeat 2 or 3 pains, just because if the story has to stay coherent, Kakashi is the strongest ninja in konoha.

4) KAkashi will be rescued by the two ninja sent by killer bee's brother. I am convinced that Pein is very strong but his strength comes from the number. If Kakashi kills 3 peins, and he is joined by the two killerbee's ninjas and by YAhmato, then the remaining pain will have no other choice than to retreat.

5) Naruto will fight pein, but only the real pein, the one that is hiding.

6) Killer bee and his village are taking the place of gaara and the sand village as the strong allies. Gaara has is not anymore of any help for konoha.

7) Danzou will maybe become hokage because tsunade as been injured by Pein and has to be at rest. I believe that in the near future when danzou will be defeated, Kakashi will become the Hokage.

But the most important is the prophecy, naruto is the kid of the prophecy and has to come to konoha to fulfil it

[Murdock]

2) Tsunade will fight one of the Peins...Tsunade will survive because she is the oldest of the heroes, she is a figure of authority on the manga. The success of the story is based on the fact that there is 4 generations interacting. The teenagers (naruto and co), the young adults (Kakashi and ...), the pre-teen (konohamaru) and the older generation (tsunade ...)



i don't wanna disappoint you but Tsudane is gonna die

http://narutochaos.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14404

[mandelak]

imo i think danzou is just danzou lol. as simple as that. not an uchiha not anything else.

imo it is possible for him to have had or still have connections to madara. reason i say this is because the way he trains root is the same as how blood mist village trains their shinobi so it is possible that he and mizukage who was madara had some type of friendship or more of a partnership.

if danzou was his brother i wouldnt be surprised much, but i dont think he is.

[dharq]

I think the danzou as brother theory is pretty good. The whole danzou is madara thing just doesn't fly with me though.. if he's that powerful, why wouldn't he have just seized control of Konoha from Tsunade already? I mean, she's weak compared to the other hokages, and it's not like he'd have anything to fear from her physical attacks seeing as Madara can phase shift and such... And then there's the whole issue with the 3rd not recognizing him as Madara even though the 3rd would've been training to be a shinobi while Madara was in the village.

On the other hand, we don't know that the village ever knew about Madara's brother. The timeline's kinda sketchy, but it seems feasible that Madara took his brother's eye before Konoha was founded. If the brother somehow survived and is seeking revenge, what better place to be than head of root?

[jiraiya san]

well i think that danzou is trying to be the one in control of konoha so is mandara but i dont think they are the same person.Prediction if kakashi comes to the point were he needs help there are two ninjas whom i think are going to help him the first one will be Gai and it will be awsome if Rin comes to help

[AS The Leader]

I would think the only reason Danzou killed the frog is because of the same reasons as the elders. After all he's not an enemy of Konoha as Pein or others are.
It has been made clear that his intentions are to raise Konoha to the most powerful country in the world, so getting Naruto back from the mountains means running a risk of giving him away, which he can't afford. He's defending Konoha by his own point of view.
Anyway we know that Naruto will come back soon anyway, he's about to finish his training there he won't stay there forever...

[NarutoSennin]

I would think the only reason Danzou killed the frog is because of the same reasons as the elders. After all he's not an enemy of Konoha as Pein or others are.
It has been made clear that his intentions are to raise Konoha to the most powerful country in the world, so getting Naruto back from the mountains means running a risk of giving him away, which he can't afford. He's defending Konoha by his own point of view.
Anyway we know that Naruto will come back soon anyway, he's about to finish his training there he won't stay there forever...

I agree. Danzou isn't a nice guy but I think he's doing what he thinks is best for Konoha. He just believes that the philosophies of the Senju make Konoha weak. He's from the same generation and mind-set that Chiyo was. She thought that making alliances made their village weak. She just wasn't as pro-active as Danzou is.

I also think that Naruto will come back when his training is finished. The frog was just in case they needed to "get in touch".
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/409/03/

They were planning on coming back when he was finished anyway.

[Murdock]

well i think that danzou is trying to be the one in control of konoha so is mandara but i dont think they are the same person.Prediction if kakashi comes to the point were he needs help there are two ninjas whom i think are going to help him the first one will be Gai and it will be awsome if Rin comes to help


from what we heard from Kakashi ... Rin is probably dead so no man sry ... he said that everyone he cared about are dead now ... so Rin probably also

[-Erios-]

its true kakashi once said that all the important ppl he once had are dead now...

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/61/17uq1.png
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6536/chapter24201bq2.png

considering the differences of age .... well idk

[jiraiya san]

well it could be that Rin is probably dead but in chapter 139page9 when kakashi is on the cementary and the girl mansions Obito been dead I imagin that she would mension Rin too since Rin was part of Kakashis team.

[Murdock]

Obito died in action ... she might not ... plus he feels responsible for his dead that's why he is tehre every day and everyone know it probably ... no IMO Rin is dead

[Dirtz101]

Is it jus me or did ne1 els see a picture dat looked lyk sasuke at da end of chapter 421 on da last page????

Is it jus me or did ne1 els see a picture dat looked lyk sasuke at da end of chapter 421 on da last page????

Is it jus me or did ne1 els see a picture dat looked lyk sasuke at da end of chapter 421 on da last page????

Is it jus me or did ne1 els see a picture dat looked lyk sasuke at da end of chapter 421 on da last page????

Is it jus me or did ne1 els see a picture dat looked lyk sasuke at da end of chapter 421 on da last page????

Is it jus me or did ne1 els see a picture dat looked lyk sasuke at da end of chapter 421 on da last page????

[Murdock]

WTF? No ... that's Danzou man ... and learn some grammar ... 'cause this isn't readable

[HNIC313]

I would think the only reason Danzou killed the frog is because of the same reasons as the elders. After all he's not an enemy of Konoha as Pein or others are.
It has been made clear that his intentions are to raise Konoha to the most powerful country in the world, so getting Naruto back from the mountains means running a risk of giving him away, which he can't afford. He's defending Konoha by his own point of view.
Anyway we know that Naruto will come back soon anyway, he's about to finish his training there he won't stay there forever...

exactly danzou may be an asswhole but you have to remember he is a good guy just with alterior motives and my theory goes like this kakshi mos def can hold his own no doubt i my mind 2nd another elite ninja from konoha will asist they have fiiguired out pain to a degree so there makin progress and naruto's trainin has progressed so much he HAS to learn some super speed techniques hell be unstoppable surpassing sasuke i can thelp but wonder if the power givin ot him by itachi can stop mind control of the kyubii it ponders my mind!

[blind]

well it could be that Rin is probably dead but in chapter 139page9 when kakashi is on the cementary and the girl mansions Obito been dead I imagin that she would mension Rin too since Rin was part of Kakashis team.

That girl isn't Rin. It's been stated by the databook that she's just an ANBU member:

http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=2579232&postcount=16

Going by Kakashi's words, she's most likely dead.

[DonEmu]

He didn't say the girl was Rin, he was saying that they didn't mention Rin during that conversation.

Most likely Kakashi's team was disbanded eventually when he joined Anbu. So i dont see the significance of not mentioning Rin in that conversation. I assume she is dead or as good as considering Kakashi's comments about his past friends and precious ones.

[Naru-Ichi]

That girl isn't Rin. It's been stated by the databook that she's just an ANBU member:

http://forums.narutofan.com/showpost.php?p=2579232&postcount=16

Going by Kakashi's words, she's most likely dead.

He didn't say that she was Rin. He said that if Rin was dead, she would've mentioned it instead of just Obito. As you mentioned, Kakashi said that everyone close to him is dead so that would mean that she's dead.

About Danzou being Madara's brother: No, Madara's brother is dead

[mandelak]

yeah she could be dead or they could've just grown apart after obito died and went their seperate ways. maybe she could've left the village. so to kakashi that is just as good as her being dead coz she abandoned him and the village.

but i think she is dead as well. like dead, dead lol.

[roy1993]

Obito died in action ... she might not ... plus he feels responsible for his dead that's why he is tehre every day and everyone know it probably ... no IMO Rin is dead

remeber how kakashi was always late before doing missions with Team 7 and they would always get mad. Maybe that is ymaybehe wasvisiting the grave every time and styed there for a whle just to say hi everyday.

[mandelak]

or maybe he was reading his icha icha and got carried away and lost track of time lol.

[jiraiya san]

this is for all of you guys that want naruto to win next time he confronts sasuke,i hate to tell you this but hes not going to win not that i hate naruto i also whant naruto to win but if naruto does not uses nine tail power his not going to win and just in case you think i like sasuke more than naruto thats not the case

[mandelak]

naruto will win. by the time he comes back he will be an animal. yes sasuke would've grown as well, but itachi gave naruto something that will possibly give him the edge against sasuke.

also sharingan can't see nuture energy. you can't see it unless you can gather it. soooo that means sharingan can't follow his movements if he is in sage mode. meaning he has an edge once again on sharingan. also he has his kyuubi as a third backup.

it will be a good fight but naruto will have it.

[jiraiya san]

also in the next chapter will see some of the eight tail and sauske and the reaction on mandara about sauskes faillier

[mandelak]

nuh i dont think we will see any of them

i think it will be all kakashi and pein maybe some sakura and tsunade and possibly naruto, but i dont think we will see sasuke and madara and co for a while. i dont even think we will see naruto from now on. maybe a couple panels

[teh mirage]

yea kakashi still has his ms tech. I don't think that will save him though from someone like god realm pein. Pein is definitely nagato controlling him from somewhere else, it's obvious that even if they beat those six, theres still one ultimate badass nagato out there who will be an insane villian. If that theory is wrong then well wtf is up with danzou.

Someone mentioned him being in league with madara, but I am pretty sure madara wants to get the nine tails. I think danzou wants something else out of this but I have no freakin clue what it is. He is way too mysterious.

[Erotique]

I hope that Kakashi would live up to his legend on this one. God Realm Pein just summoned another one to rear-end Kakashi; however, that shows how impressive Kakashi really is and Pein is not planning to underestimate him on this encounter. Speaking of Konoha invasion, where the hell is all the leet shinobies in Konoha? If granny Chiyoba came out of retirement, I'm sure other two "elders" could live up to their caliber since they were Sarutobi's old team-mates, are they not?... -_-

[jiraiya san]

I hope that Kakashi would live up to his legend on this one. God Realm Pein just summoned another one to rear-end Kakashi; however, that shows how impressive Kakashi really is and Pein is not planning to underestimate him on this encounter. Speaking of Konoha invasion, where the hell is all the leet shinobies in Konoha? If granny Chiyoba came out of retirement, I'm sure other two "elders" could live up to their caliber since they were Sarutobi's old team-mates, are they not?... -_-

I totally agree whit Erosannin at least Tsunade should be doing what Sarutobi did when konoha was in danger. I don't know is just a thought but Konan could be the real pain maybe what do you guys think

[Murdock]

remeber how kakashi was always late before doing missions with Team 7 and they would always get mad. Maybe that is ymaybehe wasvisiting the grave every time and styed there for a whle just to say hi everyday.

he is doing so admitted it ...

naruto will win. by the time he comes back he will be an animal. yes sasuke would've grown as well, but itachi gave naruto something that will possibly give him the edge against sasuke.

also sharingan can't see nuture energy. you can't see it unless you can gather it. soooo that means sharingan can't follow his movements if he is in sage mode. meaning he has an edge once again on sharingan. also he has his kyuubi as a third backup.

it will be a good fight but naruto will have it.

well Sasuke might not be able to see that Naruto is gathering nature energy into him (but it's Sharingan ... it can do anything since Kishi is inlove with all-mighty Sasuke)

but Sharingan not being able to see Naruto's movements isn't true IMO it's chakra stronger bigger faster but still Sharingan's ability to reads movements isn't negated by Sage