Naruto Chapter 421 Discussion

[rasenproc]

Pain vs. Kakashi. how will the sharingon compare to the rinnegan? and Naruto is being called back. Wat's next?

[-Erios-]

Whats next?? Next is the utter destruction of Konoha all by 5 men and 2 women :D

[rasenproc]

Whats next?? Next is the utter destruction of Konoha all by 5 men and 2 women :D

i like how modest pain was... "its an honor to meet you"

kakashi really must be somethin for a "god" to be honored. i think the chuunin (shika, sakura, choji, etc.) will encounter a pain next chapter

[-Erios-]

i know that was surprising Half of the Sharingan VS Rin'negan who will win?? ummm do you know which realm is kakashi fighting???

[0m3gA]

i think kakashi will be able to take on his opponent ... he's only fighting one of the pains not all 6 at once...

kakashi is known all over the ninja world because of him copying other ninja's jutsu..
that of course is because of the sharingan ..

im surprised tsunade is calling for naruto right away ... unless she wants him to know who killed jiraiya

i think there will be more set ups next chapter as in whos going to fight who ,... and naruto finding out that pain has started the attack on konoha

[alimujtaba786]

he is fighting the god realm !!!!! this is going to be crucial as ....i dont want kakashi to die .....
i hav few points other than topic ...like how kakashi will become the 6th hokage !!
1 . point if MINATO (4th hokage was wind type ) then all the 4 hokages are from different elements !!! i dont know what element does tsunade hav !!!
2. only lighting element is left !!!
3. the only gud lighting elemnt user in konoha is KAKASHI ...perhaps SASUGAY TOO....but he cant become a hokage.....

now on topic ..
we are going to see some badass fighting between pain...and konoha nin......wtf INO is upto...interrupting his father at the crucial moment ...she is so useless!!!

[-Erios-]

i think kakashi will be able to take on his opponent ... he's only fighting one of the pains not all 6 at once...

kakashi is known all over the ninja world because of him copying other ninja's jutsu..
that of course is because of the sharingan ..

im surprised tsunade is calling for naruto right away ... unless she wants him to know who killed jiraiya

i think there will be more set ups next chapter as in whos going to fight who ,... and naruto finding out that pain has started the attack on konoha

I think Naruto was already told who killed J-man...

but seems like Tsunade was already waiting for him (pein) to attack what is she planning?? :confused:

[alimujtaba786]

yea ...erios u r right ..i agree ...she was planning that pain will come to attack at konoha !!! or maybe that she was told the some intruders by the barrier guards hav arrived and then she was w8ing for the intruder then she realized that it was pain.....

man why is she alling naruto ??? or she belives far too much in naruto !!!

[-Erios-]

i Think thats the case.. she believes in Naruto too much but then again we all do :p

but i dont think she know pein how could have she deduced from the initial attack that pein was attacking??

Edit:wtf INO is upto...interrupting his father at the crucial moment ...she is so useless!!! priceless

[Namikaze_Minato]

I think that kakashi's fight isn't so much about pein vs kakashi as it is for kakashi to analyze Pein's moves. He allready has heard the code J-man left, and now he has experienced the weird stabby weapons that screws up chakara. He just has to make sense of it all and come up with a plan to stop pein. Also, for all those who said that Kakashi will die, Kishi allready told us that this ark would focus a lot on Kakashi's and Sakura's improvement. Neither has improved much (they improved before the arc, but not since), so he can't die yet.

[0m3gA]

I think Naruto was already told who killed J-man...

but seems like Tsunade was already waiting for him (pein) to attack what is she planning?? :confused:

sorry i meant to "meet" jiraiya's killer ... maybe tsunade thinks it will motivate naruto more if he meets the person (6 pains) who killed his sensie ...

[Hidden Ninja]

interesting. well now we know why jman needed the toads to be with him and it seems naruto cant get away from them either. sucks that there is a limitation on how long he can use the sage mode also. barely any fights last only 5 minutes.

anyone else find it weird that tsunade called naruto back. i mean yea he is supposed to be the prophecy child and really strong but they are there for him, wouldn't that be just giving the enemy what they want. but then again i guess it will also prevent pain and the posse from destroying konoha.

[0m3gA]

i sure hope tsunade is not planning on giving naruto up to save konoha..... -.-"

that would be such a huge twist though!

wow could you imagine.

[-Erios-]

interesting. well now we know why jman needed the toads to be with him and it seems naruto cant get away from them either. sucks that there is a limitation on how long he can use the sage mode also. barely any fights last only 5 minutes.

anyone else find it weird that tsunade called naruto back. i mean yea he is supposed to be the prophecy child and really strong but they are there for him, wouldn't that be just giving the enemy what they want. but then again i guess it will also prevent pain and the posse from destroying konoha.
like I said before what in the world is Tsunade thinking?? thats just a bad hokage management...
sorry i meant to "meet" jiraiya's killer ... maybe tsunade thinks it will motivate naruto more if he meets the person (6 pains) who killed his sensie ...

well once Naruto sees pain he is gonna shi* his pants :p


where is bee!!!

and WOW kishi has forgotten about his dear sasuke!!:banana: seems like they finally broke up

[Arty]

Sasuke is going to save Naruto...

its obvious.

[-Erios-]

No arty there you are wrong...Sasuke is gonna kill Pein and Madara at the same time then he is gonna have babies with sakura while Naruto is his servant...-_-

now if tsunade is really planning on giving in Naruto to pein to save the Village...(which im stating to doubt) Naruto isnt going to be " ok this is for the best"

[S.Haze]

Interesting chapter. Now we know why ma and pa toad were on jiraiyas shoulders during sage mode.Tsunade geting Naruto back is not a bad decision because Naruto was one of Konohas strongest and Tsunade probably has a feeling that he has learned a lot. I think Kakashi at least has to kill one Pain body with his MS (we will see if he has improved it) but not the Yahiko pain. I think the Killer bee will be in the war against Akatsuki and will probably fight Sasuke before Sasuke turns back to a good guy (we will see if Killer Bee has done any training with his 'subby-sensei'.

[Arty]

I think its more like Tsunade beleives in Naruto and that he can defend himself.

Worst case he will sacrifice his pride and with no doubt many Konoha , including himself - going Kyuubi and utterly destroy Pain.

[Hidden Ninja]

Sasuke is going to save Naruto...

its obvious.

that would be interesting and gay at the same time.



good point om3ga, i didnt think of it like that. wow, using naruto as a sacrifice. i mean it makes sense to give up one for the many, or who knows, maybe she is calling him back to tell him something that will help him get stronger.

[alimujtaba786]

once again erios ....u thought exactly like me ...i was thinking that ..there is no sosugay for 3 mangas !!!! wow that a relief ....lets hope kishi doen't hears it and writes a full manga ( nect ) on sosugay !!!

why isn'y tsunade not fighting himself ...jiraiya was the strongest in konoha ..now tsunade the 3rd sannin ...must show why she was sannin too.!!!!

[churchblue]

even though tsunade is a sannin, she can only do brutal force because she a medical ninja.

[S.Haze]

We also know that Tsunade knows offensive medical ninjutsu (when she was fighting against Kabuto).

[Densetsu no Kensai]

where is the chapter guys?..

[Hyugumaki]

where is the chapter guys?..

Typically the person who starts this topic links to the current chapters location, but since that's not there, just go to www.onemanga.com and check out the chapter there.

This is such a good chapter. I was torn between wanting to see Iruka to live and die. I want him to live because Naruto's all ready lost one father figure, and he needs a least one person to keep him sane, and I want him to die because Naruto's all ready lost one farther figure and needs to lose another to grow up even more! I'm leaning more to being glad that he survived. I think Naruto's eyes look pretty pimp in sage mode, it really gave him a new air of awesomeness. I laughed at the lameness of the frog giving Naruto the high-five because it seemed so out of place with a "sage" frog, but eh.

I can't wait to see how the Chunin handle the pains that are roaming about. It'll be a great chance to see how they've ALL improved rather than just a few.

I think Pain's days are numbered.

[S.Haze]

HERE
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/420/

[0m3gA]

tsunade is mostly all brute force and medical .. but you cant count her down yet,, she can produced major damage .. and like S.Haze said she is also able to do offensive medical jutsu's ... plus i dont think she really went all out vs. kabuto that time .. and im sure she has can provide more.. shes a hokage for a reason

[S.Haze]

Yup Tsunade at least has to kill off one Pein body.

[Densetsu no Kensai]

HERE
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/420/

y'da man dude, thanks a bunch...
The real one is not in konoha neighter, and this time Naruto is sure to go after him!

[ChillO]

If Naruto is the prophesized one to bring piece to the world. The only logical thing to do would be to call Naruto back. Call it a gamble and it probably is on her part :D, but if its the other way around and Pain is the one they are screwed anyways.

Oh and next chapter Kakashi is gonna own God realm, as espected from probably the 2nd strongest ninja in the village. Ofcourse some of the chuunin will show of their skills, but they will likely be nothing more the speed bumps. On a side note wheres Konan < probably more important than people think it is.

[0m3gA]

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/419/02/

here you go.,,,

konan is with the resonance team .....

[HyperShadow]

All the jinchuurikis look bada$$. I hope we get background on them in the future.

Naruto's Sage mode looks awesome, dam he can jump really high too. And so he can use clones in sage mode. Fukasaku was sayin that Naruto has mastered the frog katas and sage techniques to some degree, so maybe Naruto did learn a few extra jutsu. I also am curious as to what Shima was doing at that well.

Pain's just such a bada$$ too, I mean he's all do this do that or you're dead. and God Realm's wind shockwave, and Demon Realm's pew pew lazorz head, He's so void of emotion lol. I'm surprised he was honored to meet Kakashi, just goes to show how much of a bada$$ Kakashi is as well, I'm surprised Pain could doge 2 Raikiri's in less then 10 seconds, I also wonder what was that earth style jutsu Kakashi used. When Pain tryed to kick Kakashi it reminded me so much of a matrix moment or somethin lol. Can't wait to see more action from him, Tsunade, and the rookie 9, as well as Gai's team.

Furthermore was Kishi trying to give us a little fanservice on the second-to-last page via upskirtage? :D

I was just about to mention that crucial part there too Gman. Sage Techniques, so perhaps he learned something like the Rock Frog stomache or some water type jutsu. That would be so awesome.

[Arty]

Are you sure that was a wind jutsu? -_-

[NarutoforHokage]

yea i wouldnt imagine that it isnt anything more than frog techniques for the time being. Maybe after the Pain fight Naruto will go back to the mountain to finish up his training, but it seems right now they are kinda rushing through things training wise to get ready for Akatsuki

[S.Haze]

Nah, I think Narutos training has finished and IMO he has done a hell of a lot more than he done with Jiraiya.

[0m3gA]

naruto just learned sage mode faster than jiraiya. Naruto was mostly likely the one that was most fitted for sage mode. he was the perfect candidate. even pa already said in his sage mode he doesnt look anything like a frog at all. and jiraiyas nose changed. I think its a good think that naruto is learning something great.

[S.Haze]

Yup but I wonder how exactly Naruto is the child in the prophecy?
It seems to me Pein is since he has the mighty Rinnegan

[WjRgX]

Two things I didn't get. Didn't Tobi and Diedra fight one of the tailed beast with out a host, how do we have all nine hosts then on the cover? Two what are "FROG KATAS"?

[hobum]

I think Naruto doesn't need fusion to get sage powers. If he only needs one person to focus on natural energy, naruto could send a kage bunshin far away to concentrate on transforming to sage mode then have the shadow clone disappear so the real naruto turns into sage mode. I wonder if that'll work in narutoverse.

I can't wait for Naruto's secret new jutsu. It's going to blow us all away.

[blind]

Two things I didn't get. Didn't Tobi and Diedra fight one of the tailed beast with out a host, how do we have all nine hosts then on the cover? Two what are "FROG KATAS"?

Frog Katas is probably Frog taijutsu?

As for the tailed beasts, you're correct. Kishi was probably just going for a more complete look, I guess.

[Murdock]

Kishi is making lot of mistakes nowadays ... for example page 8 at last chapter Pein has Konoha mark on his head protector instead of his own :D

second wasn't stated that Shadow clone can experince only mental experince so how could Naruto turn into a frog if his clone would have done that? that PHYSICAL experience not mental ... so that means every hits that clone experince transfers too? so Naruto should be dead by now ... don't see the logic from Kishi part

[0m3gA]

good catch on the forehead protector...kishi definitely dropped the ball ob that one LOL

[AS The Leader]

lol for once, almost all the possible choices in the poll are legitimate...
Anyway it was quite a nice chapter, and Kakashi showing up like that was cool and unexpected.
Well I guess he's going to do good against Pein, but well if even Jirayia couldn't beat him, I doubt Kakashi could.
But just taking out one of them should already be a nice performance.
And what was going on with the head of one of the others? was that the thing that made the explosion or is it Ino's father reaching the brain of the dead one triggered something in him? I couldn't get it...
Well at leadt we know how Pein can control the bodies now, through these chakra sticks... well someone just has to pierce himself with it and will be in Pein's control?
Naruto looks defintely stronger now, but I don't know I just can't seem to look him like being incredibly stronger, he didn't learn any new jutsus, except that frog one so he'll be overall a lot stronger thanks to his training but will have the same abilities

Kishi is making lot of mistakes nowadays ... for example page 8 at last chapter Pein has Konoha mark on his head protector instead of his own :D


Yes it looks like a mistake, but in the other hand, maybe it's done on purpose, Pein did pierce him with something just before that, maybe it shows that he got his abilities or has some part of him...or maybe I saw wrong and I'm over thinking...it seems unprobable...

[Murdock]

what? what abilities what does have to with head protector? on next page everything is OK ... it's mistake

[AS The Leader]

Well just thought he might have gotten his powers and went through a instant transformation for a split of a second, but like I said, I'm most probably wrong so I wont argue on this lol
Anyway Pein being able to kick kakashi and destroy his wall (which I don't know the use) without even moving was woww!

[Arty]

We don't really know what happened there -_-

[-Erios-]

Well just thought he might have gotten his powers and went through a instant transformation for a split of a second, but like I said, I'm most probably wrong so I wont argue on this lol
Anyway Pein being able to kick kakashi and destroy his wall (which I don't know the use) without even moving was woww!

well for the thoughest luck of kakashi he has to fight the God realm which sucks... cuz he is the God realm :p

[0m3gA]

id have to stick to kishi making a mistake and prolly got confused working late at night and iddnt have his coffee or tea :P

[KageNaruto]

I lol'd at Pein's headband.

The 9 jinchuuriki is excusable. Remember the Sand Village implented others with the Shukaku before Gaara. It's a stretch but the #3 jinchuuriki could have just been the last one to have it.

"second wasn't stated that Shadow clone can experince only mental experince so how could Naruto turn into a frog if his clone would have done that? that PHYSICAL experience not mental ... so that means every hits that clone experince transfers too? so Naruto should be dead by now ... don't see the logic from Kishi part"

He turns mentally into a frog before he does physically? The matrix effect.

[Herumor]

Kishi is making lot of mistakes nowadays ... for example page 8 at last chapter Pein has Konoha mark on his head protector instead of his own :D
lawl I didn't notices that until I checked out what you said :confused:

Now I'm pretty sure Naruto is going to come back for this attack, but personally I'd like some of the other chuunin and jounin that started off as kids to join in the fight. Particularly I want more Neji damnit -,- Shino we saw some of when the Konoha-nin first encountered Tobi. Shikimaru got to pwn Hidan to avenge Asume, and even Sakura got some shining time against her fight with Chiyo against Sasori. We haven't seen much of the others after the time skip so I want more of Kiba, Hinata, Neji, Ino, Lee, and Chouji. I'd even be happy with Kakashi fighting Pain, before starting to loose and Gai coming in to save the day! Maybe Naruto will come back just in time to see Kakashi die (except that would contradict what Kishi said about giving him and Sakura some screen time) then go ape shit and destroy the six paths of pain.

[nagato]

when i saw iruku about to die and kakashi save him im likE KAKASHI IS BEAST. then he got his ass handed to him without even knowing how it happened and now im sad. i really didnt want the frogs to be on narutos head i wanted him to surpass that part cause i thought u could.

[churchblue]

They have to do is to remove the chakra receviers from the Peins. It is that simple.

[KageNaruto]

They have to do is to remove the chakra receviers from the Peins. It is that simple.

You really think it's that simple to pull out all the pins inside a Pein body? And avoid the explosion if you somehow do?

It's easier to just kill the body.

[kyoukan]

I suppose people will have to refer to naruto as naruto the gama sennin. Naruto-sama or naruto-san for the very least, Naruto-sennin. Ha I look forward to seeing those peopel saying, " Hai Naruto-sama"

[simario2]

i think kakashi will lose the fight with pain and right before he dies, naruto comes and saves him with some UBER sage techniques, Believe it :P

[mithis]

I could have sworn I posted this earlier when the chapter, but I can't find it with the search or scrolling through the topic. So forgive me if this is a double post.

We now know Pain has a huge weakness. I think those chakra recievers allow him to introduce his chakra into the bodies and control them. Whether it be by torture or will power. So I aggree, I think maybe removing those rings will eliminate his control.

[KageNaruto]

I could have sworn I posted this earlier when the chapter, but I can't find it with the search or scrolling through the topic. So forgive me if this is a double post.

We now know Pain has a huge weakness. I think those chakra recievers allow him to introduce his chakra into the bodies and control them. Whether it be by torture or will power. So I aggree, I think maybe removing those rings will eliminate his control.

Once again, how is this a huge weakness? It is much easier to kill the body like you would normally kill anyone rather than pull out each pin and then get blown up.

The weakness is "the real one isn't with them". This isn't a weakness, it's the means of control.

[Tatsu]

Yeah, figuring out that Pain controls the bodies through black chakra recievers is hardly a weakness. If anything, it would put off a ninja from fighting him because of the sheer number of them throughout his body making it hard to ever pull out each chakra reciever and put that body out of use.

Unless, while the bodies are isolated as they currently are, kill them and pull out each chakra reciever before the reviving body has a chance to bring that body back to life. But that's easier said than done, killing the body will be quite a task for the Konoha ninja.

[Arty]

Im kinda disappointed...

Id like to see the Rinnegan kid fight as pain , not 6 assfucks with pins and stupid names.

I want a true god.

[KageNaruto]

Im kinda disappointed...

Id like to see the Rinnegan kid fight as pain , not 6 assfucks with pins and stupid names.

I want a true god.

Gods never do the work themselves, heck God was too lazy to write the Bible himself.

[Arty]

I laughed lol ,^^

I really hope we get to see a the true Rinnegan in action.

[Tatsu]

I lol'd at that too :p

But i doubt we'll get to see the true rinnegan user in action this arc -_-
Maybe the next arc, but i just think this one will be just about these 6 bodies he uses.

[naruto_fan_390]

ok my last prediction was right about this chapter. so ill try to make it 2 for 2. in the next chapter we will see some cool new jutsu form kakashi and maybe some chunin. then naruto will show up at the end of the chapter and save someone. he will say something cool and pain will respond to with a cold remark.

oh most likely nobody importent will die in next chapter either.

[Tatsu]

I agree with you on the last part, i don't think anyone will die in the next chapter. It seems a bit rushed if they were to kill off an important character two chapters into the attack on Konoha.

Just more fights forming and developing i predict for 421.

[SutarinShin47]

The Sage Mode looks awesome!!!! The way naruto's face looks, just awesome, and I liked how he used the KB! I wonder how it will come together when he is using the frog takas.

Honestly, I was hoping that Naruto won't need a frog on his shoulder. It looks okay, but seeing him in Sage Mode beasting it out without a frog, was so cool. I also would like to see Naruto go Sage like how Goku goes Super Sayian. At will and all. but I think he will be able to manage. He doesn't need to be in sage mode just to do toad takas and sage techniques right ( I know the last one sounded idiotic,but I was just thinking)?

I think the next chapter, Kakashi and Tsunade will have to fight the god realm Pain, while the 8 Man Squad fight off two, Team Gai fight one, and Team 10 will take on one, and maybe that will leave the new Pain body and the God Realm left to fight Naruto. Tsunade dies, Kakashi is made Hokage,the raikage's messanger arrives, Naruto kills God Realm Pain, and then the village begins to rebuild the village, while Kakashi goes to the meeting with of the Kages. Hopefully, a Madara vs. Kakashi.

[naruto_fan_390]

i hope that kakshi has learned a new space and time jutsu like tobi. maybe he copied it, but i dont think he could. but he has to pull out some bad ass jutsu to hang with pain.

[Naru-Ichi]

I don't think he is meant to hang with Pein.

[KageNaruto]

Hopefully, a Madara vs. Kakashi.

Can you say dead in 3 seconds?

[naruto_fan_390]

i think kakashi is alot stronger then we think. look at the lastest data book. he is preaty high up on the power level list. he will hang with pain. even respects him alittle.

[Gman47]

i hope that kakshi has learned a new space and time jutsu like tobi. maybe he copied it, but i dont think he could. but he has to pull out some bad ass jutsu to hang with pain.

His MS ability is called Kamui (Power of the gods, heh funny as he's fighting God Realm who thinks he's a god), As we already know he can teleport parts or probably a whole person's body to another dimension, and he can use it to transport himself and groups of people with himself. :D

[Tatsu]

Kakashi would already be dead if Pain really wanted to kill him. He has been given so many openings and chances but instead he gently stabs him in the SHOULDER (not a vital point, indicating no intent to kill).

[Naru-Ichi]

i think kakashi is alot stronger then we think. look at the lastest data book. he is preaty high up on the power level list. he will hang with pain. even respects him alittle.

No one is calling him weak or anything, but he can't really hang with Pein as we have seen. Pein is Naruto's opponent not Kakashi's

His MS ability is called Kamui (Power of the gods, heh funny as he's fighting God Realm who thinks he's a god), As we already know he can teleport parts or probably a whole person's body to another dimension, and he can use it to transport himself and groups of people with himself. :D

Where did you get that from?

Kakashi ability only allows him to transport things into another dimension.

[Tatsu]

Yeah, lol. I was wondering what he was talking about there too o_O

Although would be cool if he had trained himself to use Kamui on an area around him so he could retreat if he needed to (though it would send him somewhere completely random i'm guessing).

[Gman47]

Where did you get that from?

Kakashi ability only allows him to transport things into another dimension.

No my friend he can transport too it seems, see:

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/396/11/

[Tatsu]

There's no proof in that that he transported anywhere...

Yamato broke open the land so they could walk into where Sasuke fought Itachi, Kakashi activates MS in case any of Akatsuki is in there and they head in.

[KageNaruto]

Actually that really does look like he transported all of them... but both are possible...

[Tatsu]

I guess you could look at it that way.. But then what was the purpose of Yamato breaking open the land which had Amaterasu burning on it?

[Gman47]

There's no proof in that that he transported anywhere...

Yamato broke open the land so they could walk into where Sasuke fought Itachi, Kakashi activates MS in case any of Akatsuki is in there and they head in.

From my perspective tho, I don't see why he would need to activate his MS in a teared in half part of the earth, then there's the sssaaaaaaaaaaaa sfx and it kinda looked like a "portal" closing, then it seems as tho the feet shown landed, I mean he activated it and then they were there, I mean you are correct tho my friend that there is no evidence, but there's it definitly a big possibility since Tobi did it right before him. Makes logical sense to me lol. :D

I guess you could look at it that way.. But then what was the purpose of Yamato breaking open the land which had Amaterasu burning on it?

If I'm right I'm guessing that the user hast to have some sense of the area he is going to so maybe Kakashi had to view the landscape better then determine where he would transport, did figure out that they were like 4km away from Sasuke with his normal sharingan, at least I think lol. :p

[KageNaruto]

then there's the sssaaaaaaaaaaaa sfx and it kinda looked like a "portal" closing, then it seems as tho the feet shown landed,

That's called the rain, there was no portal, people's feet land when they run or walk.

I doubt he did teleport them, but I also don't see any reason to turn on MS right away, that just kills chakra and his eye.

[Tatsu]

That's called the rain, there was no portal, people's feet land when they run or walk.

LOL

I doubt he did teleport them, but I also don't see any reason to turn on MS right away, that just kills chakra and his eye.

Yeah, i hadn't thought about it before, but him turning on his MS is suspicious. Unless he was just being very cautious, considering he knew Tobi and Zetsu were heading back to Sasuke's location, so he thought they might be in there when they arrived.

[Gman47]

That's called the rain, there was no portal, people's feet land when they run or walk.

I doubt he did teleport them, but I also don't see any reason to turn on MS right away, that just kills chakra and his eye.

Well still there's a possibility, Tobi transported himself i believe earlier in the chapter or the chapter before. It's not totally out of the question ya kno?
@Tatsu, Why would there be Akatsuki in a piece of earth Yamato just opened up? lol xD
Still that page leaves me stumped as to why Kakashi activated his MS.

[the lost shinobi]

why would he ask them to follow him if he was going to teleport them?

Also his technique has a small radius, no way he can transport one person let alone 8 or more

[Tatsu]

Lol, Gman you didn't get what i meant. Yamato opened up the area to where Sasuke and Itachi fought, so that the 8man squad could safely get to Sasuke, but Tobi and Zetsu beat them there.

And anyway, the Akatsuki have bases everywhere so it wouldn't be out of reason :p

[Gman47]

why would he ask them to follow him if he was going to teleport them?

Also his technique has a small radius, no way he can transport one person let alone 8 or more

But we don't know this for sure my friend, I mean maybe he did make a "portal" and asked them to follow him into it, and how do we know the technqiues radius lol? I really don't think it's too far off for him to transport. lolz :p

Lol, Gman you didn't get what i meant. Yamato opened up the area to where Sasuke and Itachi fought, so that the 8man squad could safely get to Sasuke, but Tobi and Zetsu beat them there.

And anyway, the Akatsuki have bases everywhere so it wouldn't be out of reason :p
Well they were still farish tho, cause the Amaterasu spread into the forest, and Tobi transported there XD lol, Zetzu did his little ground style thing to get there. & yea i guess they do have bases everywhere lol :p

[the lost shinobi]

But we don't know this for sure my friend, I mean maybe he did make a "portal" and asked them to follow him into it, and how do we know the technqiues radius lol? I really don't think it's too far off for him to transport. lolz :p

because we saw it had a small radius when he used it against Deidara my friend.

Why would he teleport them? It makes no logical sense. Why would he use his strongest attack and nearly incapacitate himself before fighting Akatsuki? It was just an example fo Kakashi being cautious, and also an example of his increasing chakra capacity and control over his MS. It doesn't mean he was going to teleport his team. I think sometimes we think too much. When you hear hoofbeats think Horse not Zebra

[Tatsu]

Yeah but ninja aren't lazy. And so why would Kakashi risk causing damage to his eye just to transport them somewhere they could get by running? :p

Why would he teleport them? It makes no logical sense. Why would he use his strongest attack and nearly incapacitate himself before fighting Akatsuki? It was just an example fo Kakashi being cautious, and also an example of his increasing chakra capacity and control over his MS. It doesn't mean he was going to teleport his team. I think sometimes we think too much. When you hear hoofbeats think Horse not Zebra

Exactly. Like i said before also, Kakashi is a cautious person. And knew there could be danger, showing him activate MS was just a sign he was getting serious.

[KageNaruto]

There's no portal, what are you talking about?

[Gman47]

because we saw it had a small radius when he used it against Deidara my friend.

Why would he teleport them? It makes no logical sense. Why would he use his strongest attack and nearly incapacitate himself before fighting Akatsuki? It was just an example fo Kakashi being cautious, and also an example of his increasing chakra capacity and control over his MS. It doesn't mean he was going to teleport his team. I think sometimes we think too much. When you hear hoofbeats think Horse not Zebra

Lmao your right there dude, I probably am overthinking, and making myself look stupid in the process, but I honestly still don't believe it's out of the question tho lol :D

Kishi makes me think too much :p

[Valleyman]

Didn't he just send away the Amaterasu? That's what it looked like to me since there was no Amaterasu when they got to where they wanted to.

[naruto_fan_390]

ok when i brought this kakashi teleport idea up i didnt think i was logical but u guys are right if he can teleport hole bodies places, then why not his own. maybe he just hasnt dont it yet be it take alot of energy or something.

and back to my point: kakashi and pain. kakashi has one of the most powerful jutsu we have seen in the manga to date. If he can catch pain in the teleport MS thingy then G-pain is fucked up. and its not like pain cant be hit attacks. so maybe kakashi can take down one of the pains.

[sid_is_all_about_anime]

i can't understand onething that konoha is such a big village with so many clans there then why there is so troble in stopping pain. i mean just rush the whole village toward all six of them outnumber them and hence they get defeated.

[sid_is_all_about_anime]

i think what's going to happen next is kakshi will reveal some of the true powers of rinnegan so that the secret of pain comes out

[Akuma]

So Naruto needs to remain still to gather nature energy if he doesn't fuse with Pa Toad. Pa Toad said the only way this could be done during battle is if Naruto had a lot of allies to buy him time. Does anyone see a further use of Mass Kage Bunshin? Kinda difficult to keep track of the real body when 100 clones are distracting you...not to mention any new jutsu Naruto has learned/will learn during sage training.

[HyperShadow]

So Naruto needs to remain still to gather nature energy if he doesn't fuse with Pa Toad. Pa Toad said the only way this could be done during battle is if Naruto had a lot of allies to buy him time. Does anyone see a further use of Mass Kage Bunshin? Kinda difficult to keep track of the real body when 100 clones are distracting you...not to mention any new jutsu Naruto has learned/will learn during sage training.

Unless Naruto hides it won't really matter. If you noticed one person standing still while 99 other KB rushed you, you'd know something was up. Looking back though at Jiraiya's fight, what I found the most interesting was that Jiraiya needed to paint his face with something and it took time to summon Pa. The sage mode transformation wasn't what took long, it was the summoing of Ma and Pa.

[Akuma]

Kage Bunshin can be used in quite a few different ways, it doesn't always have to end in a rush of 100 clones. More than once Naruto has tricked his opponent into believing a single KB was his real body. Several times Naruto has hid his real self away while his KB absorbed all attention. Hell he could take a leaf out of Pein's book and send in 1 or even 6 KB's to confront his enemy (the real one isn't there) while he summons up the necessary nature energy. The possibilities are pretty limitless with the KB.

[Namikaze_Minato]

I think that as of right now naruto is the only person from kohona who can find out pein's secret. I've been thinking about the chapter all day and I think I know where kishi is going with the whole pein thing.

note:the following are just some ideas based on facts we have seen. if you don't want to read the long post and just want to get to the heart of my post go to the part labled prediction


1) we learn that all of pein's bodies have chakara conductors throughout them. We also know that the chakara-conductors of the de-activated body started to recieve chakra when the other peins came to kohona.http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/420/16/ This means that they have an area in which they can receive chakara from the real pein. Also, since the dead-pein's chakara receivers didn't recieve anything before pein came to kohona, it probably means that pein's real body must be nearby to broadcast to the other ones. This also explains how the bodies recovered after J-man defeated them. J-man "killed" them, but because he didn't take out the chakara conductors, the real pein was able to control them (kinda like the puppet technique) and make them attack him again. (I also think that pein's weapons are chakara-receivers as well, which is why the real pein can screw up an enemy's chakara when they are stabbed)

2) We know the the origional rinnegan-user was a sage. (hence he could use sage chakara). (I acutally belive that kishi lead us on a wild goose chase when he said that the first rinnegan user created ninjutsu. I don't believe that his rinnegan had anythig to do with it. I think that his connection with nature allowed him to discover chakara and then from that he derived ninjitsu)

3) we know that all of the bodies are extremely powerful

Prediction I believe that the real body of pein is acutally a sage, and that he is nearby and broadcasting sage-chakara into all six bodies. The sage chakara is what makes the bodies so strong. However, this is also his weakness as pein's real body must be perfectly still as he gathers sage-chakara and sends it to his six bodies. If someone were to locate his real body and force him to move, all the other bodies would die and he would be forced to defend himself without sage-chakara. That is how naruto will beat him. He will probably sense the sage chakara and then finally seek out the real pein and defeat the real body. He doesn't need any super-powered techniques or anything, just a knowlege of sage-chakara and a good strategy.

[HyperShadow]

I think that as of right now naruto is the only person from kohona who can find out pein's secret. I've been thinking about the chapter all day and I think I know where kishi is going with the whole pein thing.

note:the following are just some ideas based on facts we have seen. if you don't want to read the long post and just want to get to the heart of my post go to the part labled prediction


1) we learn that all of pein's bodies have chakara conductors throughout them. We also know that the chakara-conductors of the de-activated body started to recieve chakra when the other peins came to kohona.http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/420/16/ This means that they have an area in which they can receive chakara from the real pein. Also, since the dead-pein's chakara receivers didn't recieve anything before pein came to kohona, it probably means that pein's real body must be nearby to broadcast to the other ones. This also explains how the bodies recovered after J-man defeated them. J-man "killed" them, but because he didn't take out the chakara conductors, the real pein was able to control them (kinda like the puppet technique) and make them attack him again. (I also think that pein's weapons are chakara-receivers as well, which is why the real pein can screw up an enemy's chakara when they are stabbed)

2) We know the the origional rinnegan-user was a sage. (hence he could use sage chakara). (I acutally belive that kishi lead us on a wild goose chase when he said that the first rinnegan user created ninjutsu. I don't believe that his rinnegan had anythig to do with it. I think that his connection with nature allowed him to discover chakara and then from that he derived ninjitsu)

3) we know that all of the bodies are extremely powerful

Prediction I believe that the real body of pein is acutally a sage, and that he is nearby and broadcasting sage-chakara into all six bodies. The sage chakara is what makes the bodies so strong. However, this is also his weakness as pein's real body must be perfectly still as he gathers sage-chakara and sends it to his six bodies. If someone were to locate his real body and force him to move, all the other bodies would die and he would be forced to defend himself without sage-chakara. That is how naruto will beat him. He will probably sense the sage chakara and then finally seek out the real pein and defeat the real body. He doesn't need any super-powered techniques or anything, just a knowlege of sage-chakara and a good strategy.

That is one hell of a theory, and it's actually very plausible if you think about it. It's even more understandable if you read back to previous chapters where it even says that the original Rinnegan user was a "Sage." There're some flaws with the theory though. The only place to be taught Senjutsu is with Pa at the mountain. Nagato never met Pa (As far as we know.) The other problem is that Pa stated that you can not use Senjutsu for an extended period of time. Unless Nagato is a frog (which would be one hell of a twist) than he can't keep a battle going for that long.

[Namikaze_Minato]

Thats true.

However it is interesting that the god-realm pein seems to have the same necklace on as the Sage-rinnegan guy had, so sage arts could have been passed down with the necklace (Its a long shot, but the necklace must have come from somewhere and probably has a story attached)

As for sage-arts only being taught on the mountain, thats not true, or else the rinnegan-sage guy would not have been able to become a sage (assuming that he didn't find his way to the mountain, which is very unlikely). All that it really takes is the knowlege that if you stay perfectly still for a long time, you can sense sage-chakara.

And as for the extended periods of time, you have a point. But we don't know if sage chakara can be used in different ways (eg, without sage mode, wich might allow for it to be used longer)

[noerml]

well pein got thought by AloVera aka Zetsu... he may know quite some shit about it. (see chapter after they defeated j-man)


anyways nice to see all the jinshuriken, even tho the flaw with the 3tails is kinda bad. the 6tails looks nice.. maybe some genjutsu user? ;D


interesting though: Kakashi seems to have sensed the rinnengan in that one frame... maybe konoha can yet put some strategy together to defeat him.

[Murdock]

I lol'd at Pein's headband.

The 9 jinchuuriki is excusable. Remember the Sand Village implented others with the Shukaku before Gaara. It's a stretch but the #3 jinchuuriki could have just been the last one to have it.

"second wasn't stated that Shadow clone can experince only mental experince so how could Naruto turn into a frog if his clone would have done that? that PHYSICAL experience not mental ... so that means every hits that clone experince transfers too? so Naruto should be dead by now ... don't see the logic from Kishi part"

He turns mentally into a frog before he does physically? The matrix effect.

eeh don'T egt your matrix effect ... just Kishi is IMO little gambeling with his rules

Thats true.

However it is interesting that the god-realm pein seems to have the same necklace on as the Sage-rinnegan guy had, so sage arts could have been passed down with the necklace (Its a long shot, but the necklace must have come from somewhere and probably has a story attached)

As for sage-arts only being taught on the mountain, thats not true, or else the rinnegan-sage guy would not have been able to become a sage (assuming that he didn't find his way to the mountain, which is very unlikely). All that it really takes is the knowlege that if you stay perfectly still for a long time, you can sense sage-chakara.

And as for the extended periods of time, you have a point. But we don't know if sage chakara can be used in different ways (eg, without sage mode, wich might allow for it to be used longer)


actually what you say is pretty good ... and for extended period you said it perfectly first time ... he is still prefcestly still so he can recieve sage chakra for as long as he wants ...

but one thing is wrong about Naruto being able to feel sage chakra ... if that's true then why Pa didn't feel it when they frist fought Pein ???

anyway great theory but i doubt that Kishi would make two people using sage chakra but still it's possible

[Corpus]

The chapters are being rushed.Is naruto strong enough yet to beat pein?What happend to the book he was reading?His discovery of parents?The Key Toad?He has not used sage mode effeciently yet..what is kishi up to.

P.S that justu will probably shown when naruto is fighting against pein.However 1 jutsu to kill pein is lame I want him to have varied jutsus, sage and his own (wind type maybe)!!

[The_Last_True_Uchiha]

The chapters are being rushed.Is naruto strong enough yet to beat pein?What happend to the book he was reading?His discovery of parents?He has not used sage mode effeciently yet..what is kishi up to.

P.S that justu will probably shown when naruto is fighting against pein.However 1 jutsu to kill pein is lame I want him to have varied jutsus, sage and his own (wind type maybe)!!

I agree "That" justu will be on display against Pain.. But will it be enough??

I just had a random thought.. Don't Kill me guys.. But what if Naruto wasn't doing "That" Jutu training, while Pa was sleep.. Instead what if Naruto was in fact doing FRS training?? What I mean is, what if he noticed how fast he was in Sage Mode, and decided he could have FRS hit his target then withdraw b4 the damage takes affect.. Allowing him to recieve no damage to his arm..

[S.Haze]

However it is interesting that the god-realm pein seems to have the same necklace on as the Sage-rinnegan guy had, so sage arts could have been passed down with the necklace (Its a long shot, but the necklace must have come from somewhere and probably has a story attached)

As for sage-arts only being taught on the mountain, thats not true, or else the rinnegan-sage guy would not have been able to become a sage (assuming that he didn't find his way to the mountain, which is very unlikely). All that it really takes is the knowlege that if you stay perfectly still for a long time, you can sense sage-chakara.

And as for the extended periods of time, you have a point. But we don't know if sage chakara can be used in different ways (eg, without sage mode, wich might allow for it to be used longer)

The sage of the six paths didn't have sage chakra because:

1. He was the creator of ninjutsu so basically the Frogs didn't have any knowledge of ninjutsu at that time and it would have taken them a couple of hundred years to create senjutsu (Rikoudo would have been long dead).

2. If someones name begins with 'sage ' it doesn't have to mean he had senjutsu it just means (taken out of a dictionary: a profoundly wise person; a person famed for wisdom

[Murdock]

I agree "That" justu will be on display against Pain.. But will it be enough??

I just had a random thought.. Don't Kill me guys.. But what if Naruto wasn't doing "That" Jutu training, while Pa was sleep.. Instead what if Naruto was in fact doing FRS training?? What I mean is, what if he noticed how fast he was in Sage Mode, and decided he could have FRS hit his target then withdraw b4 the damage takes affect.. Allowing him to recieve no damage to his arm..

IMO it's not about speed it's about the time he has to be with FRS when he strikes ... he still has to hit the person so he will take the damage form FRS even if he is insanly fast ... so it doesn't solve anything ... it's like box faster hit but still you hit him so FRS makes damage to enemy and to naruto also

[Naru-Ichi]

I agree "That" justu will be on display against Pain.. But will it be enough??

I just had a random thought.. Don't Kill me guys.. But what if Naruto wasn't doing "That" Jutu training, while Pa was sleep.. Instead what if Naruto was in fact doing FRS training?? What I mean is, what if he noticed how fast he was in Sage Mode, and decided he could have FRS hit his target then withdraw b4 the damage takes affect.. Allowing him to recieve no damage to his arm..

The only problem that people seem to be forgetting is the loud screeching sound it makes so Pa most likely would've heard it.

[dharq]

The chapters are being rushed.Is naruto strong enough yet to beat pein?What happend to the book he was reading?His discovery of parents?The Key Toad?He has not used sage mode effeciently yet..what is kishi up to.

P.S that justu will probably shown when naruto is fighting against pein.However 1 jutsu to kill pein is lame I want him to have varied jutsus, sage and his own (wind type maybe)!!

How is it rushed? Naruto's always trained hard and learned relatively quickly compared to everyone else since he learned how to use his clones. And he did use some clones during the sage training. I think it's also going to help now that he's going to have at least Pa and probably Ma fused to him as well, so he'll have more long range nin- and genjutsu.

If you want Naruto to have a more varied fighting style, I don't think it's going to happen... Kishi's always portrayed him as a rash, rush-in, "beat the hell outta people and ask questions later" type of fighter. I just don't see that changing much--especially now that he has sage arts mastered to a degree and can rush in and beat the hell outta people that much faster and more efficiently.

[naruto_fan_390]

sage naruto is going to beat the hell out of pain, then he'll become infamus in the leaf. then come to find out he still has to kill the real pain, marada, sasake, kabuto, zetsu, and probly alot of other people in the the next war.

and i forgot about root. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/367/13/

[Itachi_the_Feared_One]

Is it me, or kishi just F up ...

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[Naru-Ichi]

You do know that that has been talked about already

[eyeshadowlady]

hmm I have a feeling Kakashi is going to figure out what Jiraya's message meant about "the REAL one", and once he decodes that message he'll have the upperhand with Pain. Ka's not gonna die, at least not anytime soon. I don't even think anyone relevent will die with Pain's arrival unless someone else shows up to reek havac. Just my hypothesis.

[Seraphiel]

hmm I have a feeling Kakashi is going to figure out what Jiraya's message meant about "the REAL one", and once he decodes that message he'll have the upperhand with Pain. Ka's not gonna die, at least not anytime soon. I don't even think anyone relevant will die with Pain's arrival unless someone else shows up to reek havoc. Just my hypothesis.

Kakashi will most likely not win against Pein but will be saved by Naruto who will lose and then Sasuke comes and saves every1,would be the best manga ever.

@Itachi yeah Kishi fucks things up 2 much lately.

[-Erios-]

Kakashi will most likely not win against Pein but will be saved by Naruto who will lose and then Sasuke comes and saves every1,would be the best manga ever.

@Itachi yeah Kishi fucks things up 2 much lately.

c'mon just like that no way man Naruto will not loose to pain he cant afford to loose

[Naru-Ichi]

Kakashi will most likely not win against Pein but will be saved by Naruto who will lose and then Sasuke comes and saves every1,would be the best manga ever.

That would be the lamest thing ever. Plus, Sasuke is no match for Pein, he will get demolished.

[wind33]

My prediction for next chapter is that kakashi's fight with Pein will be the focal point...I think that it will take a couple of chapters before Naruto actually gets back to kanoha...Ino, Choji, and Shika and Sakura will probably join the fight...it's going to be sad but one or more of the adult semi-popular characters will die...ie ino's dad, ibiki, or maybe even Gai...

Now i must put my two cents in with regard to Naruto not being able to use Sage mode during battle...WHY the hell would you learn an art that is useless in a real battle unless you have a f**king frog sitting on your shoulder? Does anyone else find Sage mode to be totally lame...Kishi is always trying to find a way to hinder Naruto...Now if it were Sauske i'm sure Sage mode could have been activated with just a surge in chakra...I find it incredibly useless that the only way Naruto can use Sage mode in battle is having help doing it...I thought the whole reason why the toads had to join with Jariaya is because he didn't totally master sage mode but apparently even if you are a master it still has some weaknesses...all I can say is LAME!!!

[eyeshadowlady]

Sasuke will not save the day. Sasuke is not going to join up with Naruto and especially not with Konoha. and you know, I really don't WANT Sasuke to save the day.

And Naruto won't step in until Kakashi has at least had his chance to show off. But I don't think he's going to be helping out there, I think Tsunade has her own plans for him (most likely to keep him from being caught, but he'll find some way to say eff that and protect Konoha instead, and then struggle over saving Konoha vs. saving Sasuke)

[-Erios-]

My prediction for next chapter is that kakashi's fight with Pein will be the focal point...I think that it will take a couple of chapters before Naruto actually gets back to kanoha...Ino, Choji, and Shika and Sakura will probably join the fight...it's going to be sad but one or more of the adult semi-popular characters will die...ie ino's dad, ibiki, or maybe even Gai...

Now i must put my two cents in with regard to Naruto not being able to use Sage mode during battle...WHY the hell would you learn an art that is useless in a real battle unless you have a f**king frog sitting on your shoulder? Does anyone else find Sage mode to be totally lame...Kishi is always trying to find a way to hinder Naruto...Now if it were Sauske i'm sure Sage mode could have been activated with just a surge in chakra...I find it incredibly useless that the only way Naruto can use Sage mode in battle is having help doing it...I thought the whole reason why the toads had to join with Jariaya is because he didn't totally master sage mode but apparently even if you are a master it still has some weaknesses...all I can say is LAME!!!

ok ino's dad isnt really popular and not even semi-popular if he dies it wouldnt be a big deal now if gai dies....

and i see you are mad about the whole sage mode but i dont think its lame in no way

[Seraphiel]

That would be the lamest thing ever. Plus, Sasuke is no match for Pein, he will get demolished.

Naruto is still weaker than Sasuke so yeah he will die by your logic


@ESL I know he is not going to save the day,but he should,I want to have sex with him :D

[Naru-Ichi]

Now i must put my two cents in with regard to Naruto not being able to use Sage mode during battle...WHY the hell would you learn an art that is useless in a real battle unless you have a f**king frog sitting on your shoulder? Does anyone else find Sage mode to be totally lame...Kishi is always trying to find a way to hinder Naruto...Now if it were Sauske i'm sure Sage mode could have been activated with just a surge in chakra...I find it incredibly useless that the only way Naruto can use Sage mode in battle is having help doing it...I thought the whole reason why the toads had to join with Jariaya is because he didn't totally master sage mode but apparently even if you are a master it still has some weaknesses...all I can say is LAME!!!

Not necessarily, he can use it without summoning Pa; however, it would be risky, but if he can come up with a strategy using his kbs like someone else mentioned then he could enter sage mode on his own.

Naruto is still weaker than Sasuke so yeah he will die by your logic

How do you know?

In sage mode, he is probably stronger than Sasuke

[-Erios-]

Naruto is still weaker than Sasuke so yeah he will die by your logic


@ESL I know he is not going to save the day,but he should,I want to have sex with him :D

are you only being funny or are you trying to stir things up? :p


and you dont know that Naruto could have already surpass Sasuke now with his training but only time will tell who is the strongest ...

[Seraphiel]

are you only being funny or are you trying to stir things up? :p


and you dont know that Naruto could have already surpass Sasuke now with his training but only time will tell who is the strongest ...

No I really think he is stronger,and faster and frog taijutsu wont help naruto cuz of shmexingan.


But thats my opinion u know.

+sasuke is more sexy,the only good thing about naruto is that he is Aryan.

[-Erios-]

but you dont know if sharingan can read the moments of Frog-fu

[Naru-Ichi]

No I really think he is stronger,and faster and frog taijutsu wont help naruto cuz of shmexingan.

With sage mode, Naruto is most likely stronger and faster than Sasuke. As for frog taijutsu, who knows, maybe it's to erratic for the sharingan to read. If not, I don't think it would matter because it's not like taijutsu becomes completely ineffective against them.

[wind33]

No I really think he is stronger,and faster and frog taijutsu wont help naruto cuz of shmexingan.


But thats my opinion u know.

+sasuke is more sexy,the only good thing about naruto is that he is Aryan.That has to be the lamest logic I ever saw in this forum...You think that Sauske is the strongest because you think he looks better...Please save your fantasies for your own time...Looks has nothing to do with how strong a shinobi is...and what the hell is shmexingan?...Probably something you made up in that fantasy world where you and Sauske roll in the flowers all day...Get a life!!! You want to have sex with a anime character...how lame is that?

[Arty]

No I really think he is stronger,and faster and frog taijutsu wont help naruto cuz of shmexingan.


But thats my opinion u know.

+sasuke is more sexy,the only good thing about naruto is that he is Aryan.

I never thought about it this way -_-

[-Erios-]

dont listen to sera -_- he is only trying to stir things up and.....nvm

[Seraphiel]

I never thought about it this way -_-

Indeed it was epic when it occurred 2 me I laughed with evil laugh for hours.


@all above guys,Sasuke will always be faster than naruto always,and sharingan can read anything,its up 2 sasuke 2 be able to follow it.


+he has ama and that 1 tech is stronger than anything naruto has.

[-Erios-]

omg c'mon that not true man dont forget that Naruto has also a secret weapon that not even kishi knows what it is ....and sasuke well... he just -_-

[Naru-Ichi]

@all above guys,Sasuke will always be faster than naruto always,and sharingan can read anything,its up 2 sasuke 2 be able to follow it.


+he has ama and that 1 tech is stronger than anything naruto has.

Sage mode increases his speed so he might not be faster than Naruto when he enters sage mode. Well Sasuke might not be able to follow Naruto's taijutsu in sage mode.

Amaterasu is going to be very effective against Naruto if he uses TKB

[Seraphiel]

omg c'mon that not true man dont forget that Naruto has also a secret weapon that not even kishi knows what it is ....and sasuke well... he just -_-

The only thing from Narutos arsenal that could maybe BIG maybe stop Ama is kyuubi.

And its just my opinion you people don't have 2 like it.

@naru ichi he can just burn all of them.

[S.Haze]

That has to be the lamest logic I ever saw in this forum...You think that Sauske is the strongest because you think he looks better...Please save your fantasies for your own time...Looks has nothing to do with how strong a shinobi is...and what the hell is shmexingan?...Probably something you made up in that fantasy world where you and Sauske roll in the flowers all day...Get a life!!! You want to have sex with a anime character...how lame is that?

Lol I cracked up big time when I read your post hahahahaha.
Correct me if i'm wrong but the sharingan can't read all movements because when Lee opened his gates Kakashi said he couldn't read it (I think).
So Naruto being STRONGER and FASTER than Sasuke (don't cry Sera) and he can't read his movements with his shmexingan.

[eyeshadowlady]

Naruto is still weaker than Sasuke so yeah he will die by your logic

I don't think Naruto is weaker, I think he usually just trails behind Sasuke and then eventually, after more time and effort, gains a new power that can stand up to (or possibly defeat) Sasuke's. But kishi obviously has a preference for Sasuke


@ESL I know he is not going to save the day,but he should,I want to have sex with him :D

why? so he can whine about it and cut himself later?

[Seraphiel]

Lol I cracked up big time when I read your post hahahahaha.
Correct me if i'm wrong but the sharingan can't read all movements because when Lee opened his gates Kakashi said he couldn't read it (I think).
So Naruto being STRONGER and FASTER than Sasuke (don't cry Sera) and he can't read his movements with his shmexingan.

link plz,maybe he did I don't remember either.


The sharingan can see everything the problem is if u and ur body can follow,only exception I know was FRS,but no one can see microscopic needles.

[Naru-Ichi]

The only thing from Narutos arsenal that could maybe BIG maybe stop Ama is kyuubi.

And its just my opinion you people don't have 2 like it.

@naru ichi he can just burn all of them.

He has to focus on one target at a time. If they surround him like he did against Kimi and he doesn't hit the right one then he just wasted a lot of chakra.

[Seraphiel]

He has to focus on one target at a time. If they surround him like he did against Kimi and he doesn't hit the right one then he just wasted a lot of chakra.

He can burn them in the 1 sec he can just focus on a larger area,and u and me both know naruto doesn't know how Amaterasu is cast.


@ESL it has been proven that naruto is more "emo" than Sasuke.

[Naru-Ichi]

He can burn them in the 1 sec he can just focus on a larger area,and u and me both know naruto doesn't know how Amaterasu is cast.

He can't focus on all of them if they are surrounding him. Plus, can he actually change the size of Ama, I mean I know it spreads when it hits the target, but can he actually make it bigger coming out?

[-Erios-]

i wonder where Hinata is??

[Seraphiel]

He can't focus on all of them if they are surrounding him. Plus, can he actually change the size of Ama, I mean I know it spreads when it hits the target, but can he actually make it bigger coming out?

U know Naruto wont surround him even if he does Sasuke can just pick them off and use ama then he is not so stupid to use it when he knows he is not going to hit.

[S.Haze]

@ESL it has been proven that naruto is more "emo" than Sasuke.

Are you saying that a guy like Sasuke who rejects nearly every girl (except for Hinata) in konoha, joins a pedophile for more power, uses drugs for more power and than decides to ruin everything his brother has worked for is less emo than Naruto?

[Naru-Ichi]

U know Naruto wont surround him even if he does Sasuke can just pick them off and use ama then he is not so stupid to use it when he knows he is not going to hit.

And Naruto will also attack Sasuke. Now that he uses his kb for simulation, he could come up with a strategy. Plus, you seem to think Sasuke is just going to use Ama as if it's a normal jutsu.

[wind33]

Lol I cracked up big time when I read your post hahahahaha.
Correct me if i'm wrong but the sharingan can't read all movements because when Lee opened his gates Kakashi said he couldn't read it (I think).
So Naruto being STRONGER and FASTER than Sasuke (don't cry Sera) and he can't read his movements with his shmexingan.Yeah I remember that as well...It was during the Chunnin exams when Rock lee and Gara were fighting...I'm just really givig Sera a hard time because his whole world revolves around Sauske...And i also think he says things like that just to get a rise out of people...He knows that most people are so sick of Sauske so he keeps antagonizing everyone with what he says...

[Seraphiel]

Are you saying that a guy like Sasuke who rejects nearly every girl (except for Hinata) in konoha, joins a pedophile for more power, uses drugs for more power and than decides to ruin everything his brother has worked for is less emo than Naruto?

Yes while Sasuke was training naruto was running around crying SASUKE SASUKE!

[Naru-Ichi]

Yes while Sasuke was training naruto was running around crying SASUKE SASUKE!

When was this?

[S.Haze]

Yes while Sasuke was training naruto was running around crying SASUKE SASUKE!

Negative
Naruto was also training with Jiraiya he was crying SASUKE SASUKE during the fillers and they aren't apart of the story.

[Seraphiel]

When was this?

Negative
Naruto was also training with Jiraiya he was crying SASUKE SASUKE during the fillers and they aren't apart of the story.
Flashbacks suggest they where talking about sasuke,naruto gets back to konoha and starts running around and crying Sasuke.

[-Erios-]

@sera stop being a fan boy man-_- nor Naruto or Sasuke are emo

[Seraphiel]

@sera stop being a fan boy man-_- nor Naruto or Sasuke are emo

I agree thats why I put "emo" in " And I'm not a fanboy its just my opinion.

[ViktorH]

Have nothing onT so i'll just point out that thistle and blind were wrong in their discussion with me in the 397 pred thread.
(now if any1 looks this up and/or answers, any1 is as donk as me :) )

oh wait, onT: I never thought that Naruto sage mode no me ga akakatta.. since the manga is black and white (obviously), i thought his eyes (or the thingy around his eyes) would be black, but in the colour pages it's red.

What did you think his eye-colour would be?

[Naru-Ichi]

Flashbacks suggest they where talking about sasuke,naruto gets back to konoha and starts running around and crying Sasuke.

Wow one time. That doesn't mean he wasn't training.

[Seraphiel]

Wow one time. That doesn't mean he wasn't training.

But he was still crying over Sasu.

@Viktor Sense,u make non.

[S.Haze]

Sasuke = Gay Emo
Get over him Sera Sasuke and Oro were meant to be you can't win Sasuke's heart.

[Naru-Ichi]

But he was still crying over Sasu.

@Viktor Sense,u make non.

No tears, just curiosity about why his friend abandoned him :D

[wind33]

Yes while Sasuke was training naruto was running around crying SASUKE SASUKE!I think that Seraphiel will ultimately be the final antagonist of the Naruto series...He and Kishi are working on an ending to surprise all of us...They will make Naruto the bad guy by making him kill alot of people in Kanoha because he lost control of his Kyuubi or something and Sauske will become Hokage by stopping Naruto before he kills everyone...that would Sera's dream come true...I think that you make a spinoff of Naruto and name it "Sera and Sauke in love"...

[-Erios-]

Have nothing onT so i'll just point out that thistle and blind were wrong in their discussion with me in the 397 pred thread.
(now if any1 looks this up and/or answers, any1 is as donk as me :) )

oh wait, onT: I never thought that Naruto sage mode no me ga akakatta.. since the manga is black and white (obviously), i thought his eyes (or the thingy around his eyes) would be black, but in the colour pages it's red.

What did you think his eye-colour would be?

that was ages ago man just let it go...:confused:

yeah umm what are you trying to say,,,......

[Seraphiel]

I think that Seraphiel will ultimately be the final antagonist of the Naruto series...He and Kishi are working on an ending to surprise all of us...They will make Naruto the bad guy by making him kill alot of people in Kanoha because he lost control of his Kyuubi or something and Sauske will become Hokage by stopping Naruto before he kills everyone...that would Sera's dream come true...I think that you make a spinoff of Naruto and name it "Sera and Sauke in love"...

I love u.

[S.Haze]

I think that Seraphiel will ultimately be the final antagonist of the Naruto series...He and Kishi are working on an ending to surprise all of us...They will make Naruto the bad guy by making him kill alot of people in Kanoha because he lost control of his Kyuubi or something and Sauske will become Hokage by stopping Naruto before he kills everyone...that would Sera's dream come true...I think that you make a spinoff of Naruto and name it "Sera and Sauke in love"...

Yeah and then Kishi will make Sera into a manga character and every scene will be Sera and Sasuke having sex in a bed of roses.

[-Erios-]

I think that Seraphiel will ultimately be the final antagonist of the Naruto series...He and Kishi are working on an ending to surprise all of us...They will make Naruto the bad guy by making him kill alot of people in Kanoha because he lost control of his Kyuubi or something and Sauske will become Hokage by stopping Naruto before he kills everyone...that would Sera's dream come true...I think that you make a spinoff of Naruto and name it "Sera and Sauke in love"...

that would be the biggest twist in the history of manga...no wait in the history of the universe two evil minds working for one purpose :confused: what will the outcome be??/sarcasm

[S.Haze]

Either Sera is kidding or he is just like Lizard (the guy who said Sasuke would beat the 3 Sannins and if you throw in the 4th and 1st hokage it will be even).

[-Erios-]

Either Sera is kidding or he is just like Lizard (the guy who said Sasuke would beat the 3 Sannins and if you throw in the 4th and 1st hokage it will be even).

actually no he said it was itachi..not sasuke there you are wrong :p

[Naru-Ichi]

Hopefully Naruto gets summoned back at the end of next chapter and we get to see some of the side characters (especially Neji) actually fight even though they might not have a chance of winning.

[-Erios-]

i think its too soon for naruto to get summoned...i mean kishi dragged pein's arrival for like 4 or 5 chapters so i doubt its gonna be ant time soon

[Naru-Ichi]

i think its too soon for naruto to get summoned...i mean kishi dragged pein's arrival for like 4 or 5 chapters so i doubt its gonna be ant time soon

That really has nothing to do with it though. Pein had to travel from the Rain village to Konoha, Naruto can just get summoned. Him getting summoned at the end of the chapter would be cool.

[-Erios-]

that will be rushing things up naruto isnt needed just yet...we need to see how the shinobies of konoha suffer :p

[The_Last_True_Uchiha]

Yes I agree Erios.. I believe Naruto will make his epic entrance in 3 chapters.. Most likely saving Kakashi once again like he did against kakuzu(sp?)...

[-Erios-]

maybe even more since we need to see the rest of the other peins...

[Tazuwukei]

maybe even more since we need to see the rest of the other penis...

True we will probably see more of them.. Maybe he'll summon them to rape Kakashi and the others? Who knows.

[-Erios-]

doubt it the other peins are doing their research and maybe having their own little fights...

[alimujtaba786]

i think kakashi will be enough for 1 pain body ...he should be ..he is the HATAKE KAKASHI son of KONOHA"S WHTE FANG ...if he cant beat 1 pain body then ......the 6 of pain's body will destroy everyone in konoha INCLUDING HOKAGE AND NARUTO .....

MANGA ENDS !!!!!

[The_Last_True_Uchiha]

I think you are mistaken if you believe Tsuande will easily die.. she's the hokage after all.. Pain's invasion will give Tsuande a chance to display her quality.. Kakashi is a smart player and all.. but it looks likes he will have his hands full with God Realm Pain..

[Lazy]

Am I the only one finding it really gay that Seraphiel says: Sasuke is more sexy. Oh I get it Seraphiel is gay so he concentrates his frustration on black persons ? And by the way you ARE a fan boy you're the greatest Sasuke fan boy on this forum. Anyway Pa says that Sage mode drastically increases your strenght and speed. How can you guys say he "might" be faster than Sasuke in Sage Mode. In Sage Mode Naruto is faster and stronger end of discussion. That's why Seraphiel's opinion does not mean a damn thing, because I've never seen such an irrational and ignorant person.

[WjRgX]

I predict they will find a way to disrupt the chakra going to the 6 pain bodies and they will run out of batteries like a remote controled car.

[B0ukun]

Going to be an interesting set of chapters coming soon. Kakashi gets to study rinegan first hand during a fight. A fight in which he's probably going to get mauled seriously. This Pein isn't going to die and Kakashi will prolly get relieved by Tsunade in the coming chapters so that he can relay the info he learned to Shikamaru as it will prolly take the both of them to figure out the full secret of Pein.

Too much faith in Naruto shows a bit of Bias as he apparently surpassed Jiraiya as a sage. Or so says Pa toad(name to long to remember). He'll show up in time to see whats happened and rush to defend Tsunade as she makes her last bid for life. Kakashi will be named Hokage at the end of this arc. There's probably going to be a few important deaths towards the end of this and I forsee Killer Bee joining up with Konoha sometime in the future as they have a common enemy in Akatsuki. I'm not sure if Garaa will show in raggedy face again but it's a possibility just dont count on it.

[blind]

That really has nothing to do with it though. Pein had to travel from the Rain village to Konoha, Naruto can just get summoned. Him getting summoned at the end of the chapter would be cool.

The point is the hero always makes a last minute entry. I doubt he'll even be summoned by the end of this chapter, really. I see him getting the news, but that's about it. Chapters have been slow recent anyways (Narutoverse wise).

[the lost shinobi]

Am I the only one finding it really gay that Seraphiel says: Sasuke is more sexy. Oh I get it Seraphiel is gay so he concentrates his frustration on black persons ? And by the way you ARE a fan boy you're the greatest Sasuke fan boy on this forum. Anyway Pa says that Sage mode drastically increases your strenght and speed. How can you guys say he "might" be faster than Sasuke in Sage Mode. In Sage Mode Naruto is faster and stronger end of discussion. That's why Seraphiel's opinion does not mean a damn thing, because I've never seen such an irrational and ignorant person.

the reason i would shy away from calling Sera a fanboy is because he uses proof from the manga and logical reasoning and he allows other people to debate his position. It doesn't mean I agree with him on his ideas though. As for not meeting someone more ignorant and irrational before in your life... oh what an odd coincidence

[Itachi_the_Feared_One]

i think kakashi will be enough for 1 pain body ...he should be ..he is the HATAKE KAKASHI son of KONOHA"S WHTE FANG ...if he cant beat 1 pain body then ......the 6 of pain's body will destroy everyone in konoha INCLUDING HOKAGE AND NARUTO .....

MANGA ENDS !!!!!

Nice prediction, but I doubt Kakashi will squeeze that one, he's matched with the wrong guy ( God realm pain)...is it me or the demon realm pain just blew up the medical research facility killing shizune in the process...it would make sense, since Pain wants to destroy anything that could reveal his secret...I bet his next target will be the prison where the rain shinobi is being held and probed by Ino's father....

[Seraphiel]

the reason i would shy away from calling Sera a fanboy is because he uses proof from the manga and logical reasoning and he allows other people to debate his position. It doesn't mean I agree with him on his ideas though. As for not meeting someone more ignorant and irrational before in your life... oh what an odd coincidence

Me pwning the last predictions thread was proof enough imo :D


And guy who called me gay sry I'm taken :D

[KageNaruto]

I'm not sure if Garaa will show in raggedy face again but it's a possibility just dont count on it.

Gaara has been to busy making up for 12 years of no sleeping.

[Tatsujin]

Am I the only one finding it really gay that Seraphiel says: Sasuke is more sexy. Oh I get it Seraphiel is gay so he concentrates his frustration on black persons ? And by the way you ARE a fan boy you're the greatest Sasuke fan boy on this forum. Anyway Pa says that Sage mode drastically increases your strenght and speed. How can you guys say he "might" be faster than Sasuke in Sage Mode. In Sage Mode Naruto is faster and stronger end of discussion.


1.Seraphiel iz black himself.And gay.Nothing new.
2. hes a fanboy? u beat him, luv. (Narutard)

Prediction- We'll see some trick from god realm, more of inos famous useless no jutsu and maybe sasuke/madara conv.

[Naru-Ichi]

1.Seraphiel iz black himself.And gay.Nothing new.
2. hes a fanboy? u beat him, luv. (Narutard)

Prediction- We'll see some trick from god realm, more of inos famous useless no jutsu and maybe sasuke/madara conv.

I was for sure he was white.

I think the next chapter will have Pein doing more damage to konoha and some shinobi (hopefully Neji) start gathering to fight him.

[Seraphiel]

I was for sure he was white.

I think the next chapter will have Pein doing more damage to konoha and some shinobi (hopefully Neji) start gathering to fight him.

I am white and Aryan,not really but white I am.

[KageNaruto]

I don't see Naruto being faster than Sasuke in Sage mode, maybe on par, but not significantly faster.

Otherwise their fight would be over because Sasuke would have no advantage. Naruto KBs make up for a lot of what he lacks physically (lol sexual), if Sasuke were too suddenly be fighting 1000 KB that were faster and stronger than him that would mean he would loose.

The 2 have to stay equally matched.

[Seraphiel]

I don't see Naruto being faster than Sasuke in Sage mode, maybe on par, but not significantly faster.

Otherwise their fight would be over because Sasuke would have no advantage. Naruto KBs make up for a lot of what he lacks physically (lol sexual), if Sasuke were too suddenly be fighting 1000 KB that were faster and stronger than him that would mean he would loose.

The 2 have to stay equally matched.

I agree,and in the end the thing that will make Naruto win will be Itachis gift.


Whenever some1 say I wonder what itachi gave to naruto I feel the urge to shout AIDS!

[naruto_fan_390]

Now i must put my two cents in with regard to Naruto not being able to use Sage mode during battle...WHY the hell would you learn an art that is useless in a real battle unless you have a f**king frog sitting on your shoulder? Does anyone else find Sage mode to be totally lame...Kishi is always trying to find a way to hinder Naruto...Now if it were Sauske i'm sure Sage mode could have been activated with just a surge in chakra...I find it incredibly useless that the only way Naruto can use Sage mode in battle is having help doing it...I thought the whole reason why the toads had to join with Jariaya is because he didn't totally master sage mode but apparently even if you are a master it still has some weaknesses...all I can say is LAME!!!

i agree that completely such naruto has to have some ugly ass frogs on his body to be strong.

[HyperShadow]

I agree,and in the end the thing that will make Naruto win will be Itachis gift.

I hate you but you're right.

[Tatsu]

I hate you but you're right.


Wooow, where's the love? Lol

But yeah, he's right. Sasuke and Naruto will remain even right to the end, and then Itachi's gift will be the tiebreaker.

[naruto_fan_390]

ok i graded naruto and sasake base offwhat i seen on the manga and what was said in the manga and i graded them. i would love to see what u guys think and your own grades.

sage naruto stam. 5 Stra. 5 Speed 4 intel. 3.5 jutsu 4 cha. 5

MS Sasake stam. 3 stra. 3 speed 5 intel. 4 jutsu 5 cha. 3.5

[Tatsu]

hmm, why do you rate Sasuke so physically weak?

[Stucakes]

You forgot to factor in "luck". Naruto seems to have a 10 in that category.
I am also really pissed about the toad on his shoulder thing. My only hope is that the Naruto will do something unpredictable to get around it.
Official Stucakes prediction : A majority of the chapter will focus on Kakashi and the other pains. Naruto will be forced to go to Wallmart to buy more Red eyeshadow for Sagemode.

[naruto_fan_390]

hmm, why do you rate Sasuke so physically weak?

I had to if u think about it, he isn’t that strong. Look at the people that should be in the 5 range, Naruto (maybe), Sakura, Tsunade, and the J-man. Then there is the people in the 4s Jungo and Choji. then Sasake, he doesn’t really have strength compared to the others. so i was nice and gave him a 3.

[Tatsu]

Hmm well i see your point about Sasuke being a 3. But i don't think Naruto could be compared in physical strength to Sakura and Tsunade. He's just not that physically strong imo. Oh and you're forgetting Lee and Gai somewhere in there ;)

[naruto_fan_390]

Hmm well i see your point about Sasuke being a 3. But i don't think Naruto could be compared in physical strength to Sakura and Tsunade. He's just not that physically strong imo. Oh and you're forgetting Lee and Gai somewhere in there ;)

yeah lee and gai are strong but they may only be a 3.5 or 4 for gai, but there speed is like a 5. but i think naruto is preaty strong remember he picked that big ass frog.

[raugaj08_]

yeah lee and gai are strong but they may only be a 3.5 or 4 for gai, but there speed is like a 5. but i think naruto is preaty strong remember he picked that big ass frog.

yep ur right, this is sage mode naruto we're talking bout, most of hes stats have been enhanced... hes strength will be on par with tsunades and hes speed will be on par with gai's but hes intellect will remain the same lol...

[ACPRO]

you know what since all of you are talking about the battle. Im gunna throw my prediction out there and say that the 8tails and killerbee is gunna stumble upon konoha village while pein is attacking, and might fight one of the peins.

[Tatsu]

Oh well if we're talking bout Sage Mode Naruto then yes, his strength is pretty extreme.
Woops, looking back your first post, you did state Sage Mode Naruto, sorry mate ^_^

you know what since all of you are talking about the battle. Im gunna throw my prediction out there and say that the 8tails and killerbee is gunna stumble upon konoha village while pein is attacking, and might fight one of the peins.


I had this thought one other day. But i thought no-one would agree so didn't say anything lol. So i agree with you, it's very possible that he would be travelling around now and may stumble across Konoha under siege. I also had a random thought (99% unlikely so don't flame me for it) that Bee may have some tips for Naruto on controlling/making the best out of the Kyuubi's strength since he and Hachibi are on such good terms.

[Stucakes]

I could definitly see Killer bee and Naruto getting along. They have really similar personality. Maybe Naruto will go 9 tails and Killer bee will sense it and head that direction.

[the lost shinobi]

I could definitly see Killer bee and Naruto getting along. They have really similar personality. Maybe Naruto will go 9 tails and Killer bee will sense it and head that direction.

I don't think Naruto can't go nine tails. Judging fro how much damage the 4 tailed form does, I would say adding another tail would just injure him more than his accelerated healing can handle.

Plus there is the other thought that since the Kyuubi's chakra was divided by Minato and Naruto only recieved half, 4 tails would be the mathematical maximum possible for Naruto to achieve.

[KageNaruto]

I don't think Naruto can't go nine tails. Judging fro how much damage the 4 tailed form does, I would say adding another tail would just injure him more than his accelerated healing can handle.

Plus there is the other thought that since the Kyuubi's chakra was divided by Minato and Naruto only recieved half, 4 tails would be the mathematical maximum possible for Naruto to achieve.

I'm quite sure he just ment go Kyuubi, as if in use the chakra, without even the tailed form...

[the lost shinobi]

well I would hope so, I'm getting tired of having to repost that idea over and over again.

[mandelak]

naruto looks cool with those eyes.

i can't wait to see him back.

i still think he will arrive late and sasuke will arrive at the same time he does. naruto seeing sasuke there with akat clothing and thinking sasuke was responsible.


DAMN i thought iruka was dead, but i guess kakashi had to be cool and save him.

bloody nice chapter though

[Stucakes]

Yeah, I just meant some of the tails coming out, not all nine of them.
(Sorry I was vague) Kagenaruto is correct

[Veni]

I don't think Naruto can't go nine tails. Judging fro how much damage the 4 tailed form does, I would say adding another tail would just injure him more than his accelerated healing can handle.

Plus there is the other thought that since the Kyuubi's chakra was divided by Minato and Naruto only recieved half, 4 tails would be the mathematical maximum possible for Naruto to achieve.

Sure, infinity/2=4.

[the lost shinobi]

Sure, infinity/2=4.

9/2= 4.5

since you can't have 4.5 tails, 4 would be the maximum.


they call the Kyuubi's chakra infinite because it's so much larger than everybody else's chakra by comparison.

[Veni]

9/2= 4.5

since you can't have 4.5 tails, 4 would be the maximum.


they call the Kyuubi's chakra infinite because it's so much larger than everybody else's chakra by comparison.

Or maybe becouse it really IS infinite.
Anyways, it wasn't said that Naruto got half the amount, just Yin nature of chakra. I don't believe nature equals amount. Just my thoughts.

[the lost shinobi]

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/370/13/

read it. If it can be divided, it's not infinite. Just very very large

[Veni]

I've read it. Just becouse it can be split in nature doesn't mean it can be divided in amount.

[the lost shinobi]

I've read it. Just becouse it can be split in nature doesn't mean it can be divided in amount.

how else do you propose he divide it then? I only know of one way of dividing and each time you end up with distinct seperate entities

[Veni]

Same way zero divides negative (lets say Yin) and positive (lets say Yang) infinity. You get 2 infinities, Yin and Yang. That's how I picture it.
(Yeah, I know, mathematiclly you can divide them anywhere, not just zero, but you get my point)

BTW, why do you think that in Narutoverse infinity can't be divided by 2? If ppl can jump zillion meters in air or distance, look like sharks, make electric current from their body, I don't see why this should follow strict mathematic equations like in real world.

Anyways, I'm sure we will get an explanation about the whole sealing process and Kyuubi's chakra soon.

[Murdock]

I could definitly see Killer bee and Naruto getting along. They have really similar personality. Maybe Naruto will go 9 tails and Killer bee will sense it and head that direction.

wasn't stated in last databook by Kishithat he will reveal why Naruto can go only to 4-tail

so i wouldn't bother it if i was you guys ;)

anyway just like many said before ... Naruto won't get smmoned to Konoha by the end of the chapter ... he will most likely get to know about Konoha being in danger at the end of the chapter

and for Killer Be going to Konoha? I don't see any reason for that ... any at all ...

they might meet themselves but i doubt that will be in Konoha

IMO after the rampage form Pein Naruto decides to leave Konoha to make sure it's save and goes hunting ;) and there on his way he can meet Hachibi

[papfles]

BTW, why do you think that in Narutoverse infinity can't be divided by 2? If ppl can jump zillion meters in air or distance, look like sharks, make electric current from their body, I don't see why this should follow strict mathematic equations like in real world.

Well, usually we go like this: It's exactly like the real world, unless the manga shows us otherwise, or until we have evidence from other occurences in the manga that this or that is a certain way.

We can explain the high jumps with built-up chakra that is expelled at the right time.

But we haven't seen that infinity can be divided by two, and have no proof of such a statement, therefore we keep it as it is in the real world.

[Veni]

Well, usually we go like this: It's exactly like the real world, unless the manga shows us otherwise, or until we have evidence from other occurences in the manga that this or that is a certain way.

We can explain the high jumps with built-up chakra that is expelled at the right time.

But we haven't seen that infinity can be divided by two, and have no proof of such a statement, therefore we keep it as it is in the real world.

Dude, usually when I see stuff like in Narutoverse I don't draw paralleles to real world. Wow, you "explained" high jumps. But only for Narutoverse. When I see Blanka Vlasic jumping 50m09cm in summer Olympics, I'll admit you can't divide infinite Kyuubi's chakra into two.
I mean, nothing in Narutoverse is exactly like in real world. Not a god damn thing. Ppl flying around, moving at high speed, shooting black flames out of eyes, summoning all sorts of creatures, and you give me an explanation for high jump and conclude "It's exactly like in real world, unless the manga shows us otherwise". Didn't 420 chapters of manga show you that its fictive world with no real physics or any other rules for that matter?

Again: my explanation is that only nature of Kyuubi's chakra was divided in two, not the amount.
Or if you want me to talk like 90% of ppl here talk.
"Well, there's no proof it's not possible. EOD"

[Naru-Ichi]

IIRC, the Kyuubi was said to have near limitless chakra not infinite chakra. But I agree with you on how it's the nature of the chakra, not the amount.

[S.Haze]

I agree with you Veni plus the kyuubi doesn't have a infinite amount of chakra I presume a 10-tail bijuu has but the kyuubi has near limitless.

[Murdock]

since there is only 9 tailed creatures ... i think it's waste of time talking about 10T

[B0ukun]

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/370/13/

read it. If it can be divided, it's not infinite. Just very very large

The properties do not equal an ammount. The chakra has two different natures Yin and Yang, light and dark so to speak. The idea of infinity is only relevant when speaking of ammounts not natures. The chakra could be both infinitly light and infinitly dark. If you have a cube that is white on two sides and black on two sides, seperating the white sides from the black sides doesn't make the black side less black nor does it make the white sides less white.

[emrahsungu]

The properties do not equal an ammount. The chakra has two different natures Yin and Yang, light and dark so to speak. The idea of infinity is only relevant when speaking of ammounts not natures. The chakra could be both infinitly light and infinitly dark. If you have a cube that is white on two sides and black on two sides, seperating the white sides from the black sides doesn't make the black side less black nor does it make the white sides less white.


Even though i hate to write what i am writing right now this is total pwnage

[naruto_fan_390]

I starting to think that kakashi isnt going to fight G-pain by himself for to long, maybe gai will show up and give him some help.

ps: how do i make my signature bigger!

[B0ukun]

use as biger picture or file