View Full Version : A thought that makes you go "hmmmm"
Mousie
10-05-2008, 01:00 PM
After watching Babylon A.D. I had an epiphany.
In the end of the movie, the main female that was given the "Mary" insight, gave birth to two kids. A white girl and a black girl.
After thinking about the arguments of "Jesus was a black man" or "Jesus is white", I realized something.
Jesus...is Hebrew. Hebrew = Middle Eastern. So Jesus is of Middle Eastern decent? What view will this change for whats happening now in terms of the war is one should stop and actually think about it? Does this mean we are in War of Jesus' people?
Hmmmmmmmm...
Sozoku
10-05-2008, 01:02 PM
Yes, I indeed have had thoughts like that Mousie. WARNING: This comes from a very criticizing standpoint, and I am only stating opinions which I have thought about, and not believed. For my own purposes, and for others whom I gave fair warning, these will be put under spoilers. Also, I've thought about racism in the U.S.. We are giving more equal or even supreme standpoints to the African-Americans, yet they turn on us with the racism that they suffered long past. They fought to be equal, not supreme, so we gave them what they wanted. No race deserves to be better than the other, so it is wrong that they claim us the racists when they go down the street calling us whatever else. Most African-American men and women today have every right to do anything they want, and yet hold it against whites. Not everyone, but there are a good amount of people who believe in things such as that. I feel proud to work alongside any African-American, especially when I can openly converse with them. Honestly, when we bite back, it only makes matters worse. Are we at fault anymore? We are about to elect a black man president, and the majority of the democratic voters are white. I believe we all are at fault, not the whites, not the African-Americans, but EVERYBODY!!! Anyways, that's just one of the many I've heard and thought about...
After watching Babylon A.D. I had an epiphany.
In the end of the movie, the main female that was given the "Mary" insight, gave birth to two kids. A white girl and a black girl.
After thinking about the arguments of "Jesus was a black man" or "Jesus is white", I realized something.
Jesus...is Hebrew. Hebrew = Middle Eastern. So Jesus is of Middle Eastern decent? What view will this change for whats happening now in terms of the war is one should stop and actually think about it? Does this mean we are in War of Jesus' people?
Hmmmmmmmm...Not really. We're at war with a specific sect of jesus's people, not all of 'em.
... And does it really matter? All we really need to know is we're at war.
Karin<3
10-05-2008, 01:49 PM
Jesus didn't even exist.
Seraphiel
10-05-2008, 02:06 PM
Not really. We're at war with a specific sect of jesus's people, not all of 'em.
... And does it really matter? All we really need to know is we're at war.
War is bad,both sides are evil,there is no good side to war,and Iraq shall burn.
Jesus didn't even exist.
I agree.
Jesus didn't even exist.Actually, he did.
Seraphiel
10-05-2008, 02:25 PM
Actually, he did.
But he didn't have powers nor was he god's son.
Karin<3
10-05-2008, 02:29 PM
But he didn't have powers nor was he god's son.
Yep he was just a jew that was idolized by some random senile old man by random.
ACPRO
10-05-2008, 02:51 PM
yea probably he might have been senile, and probably hundreds of years of other old senile people altering the bible. Now we have people going to churches getting exorcised on there heads.
He probably did help a some people and was executed for it, possibly the religion was formed to commemorate that. who knows.
partlink1
10-05-2008, 03:16 PM
The argument for Jesus being white is that the roman empire had extended and spread out over a large area, around where Jesus was born in Bethlaham I believe.
It doesn't make sense that he would be black even if they had a slave trade back then.(dont know)
but it was said Jesus was Jewish which is what most of the Romans were and to my knowledge most of the middle easterners were a type of protestant jew not strictly jewish
so yeah just some random thoughts
but even if they were jesus's people they tend to take things too far, which even jesus was a pacifist, same with Muhammad so I do not understand why they think that blowing themselves up is a good thing
it seems to me like they are trying to imitate God from the old testament passing judgement on others.
so yeah i don't care if they be Jesus's people you attack me I attack back the way the world works
ACPRO
10-05-2008, 03:33 PM
but even if they were jesus's people they tend to take things too far, which even jesus was a pacifist, same with Muhammad so I do not understand why they think that blowing themselves up is a good thing
it seems to me like they are trying to imitate God from the old testament passing judgement on others.
thats were the senile people take there place.... your right they were both pacifists, then people over history begin screwing with there ideologies
But the sad part is even if muhammed or jesus was actually still alive and said this was not what his beliefs were suppost to become, people would still disagree.
estranged
10-06-2008, 03:06 AM
but even if they were jesus's people they tend to take things too far, which even jesus was a pacifist, same with Muhammad so I do not understand why they think that blowing themselves up is a good thing the latter wasn't a pacifist. this is the first time i'm hearing such a thing. do you know how many wars he fought?
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partlink1
10-06-2008, 07:26 PM
ah nvm, I thought he was; don't remember my world history class too well on the islam subject
@ACPRO how were there beliefs screwed with? they have the original text for Muhammad sake. and right now it just seems like a small sect is launching a war against Christianity under the guise of doing god's will; from my knowledge,
Owenotto
10-07-2008, 09:38 AM
have you read DA vinci Code?
you know, there are much of historical sites about jesus and archeologist and historist have researchs on it... over 20 centuries, people believe with their story and now because only a novel, the story have been utterly destroyed and many people claim that theirs is the true one...
i know this sounds conservative, whatever people said, i just believe my religion based-story...
spacecadet319
10-07-2008, 10:18 AM
jesus was most likely brown and all he did was present buddhist teachings in a modern form, hence the new testament.
Owenotto
10-07-2008, 10:27 AM
yea, and i see no reason for any sect to wage a war to christian believer...
the age of religion rezyme had already fell a long time ago...
it has changed to economic imperialism age up now...
The Merms are said to be white <.< And Jesus wasnt a slave at that time , so the probability of him being "black" is rather low.........
The probability of him being senile is also very low.
Dan Brown is a fictional writer...
And Ethical wars are just fail---
spacecadet319
10-07-2008, 03:30 PM
yea he was white because the son of god couldn't possibly be black.
DesecratioN
10-08-2008, 12:16 AM
Yep he was just a jew that was idolized by some random senile old man by random.
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Though what does it really matter about his roots? He was a jew... He was middle eastern which implies he was of descent of that area. Which means he is likely not white nor black but rather tone a skin to the people native of those regions.
But then look at the basis of most any religion... They are all based on the desire of humanity to have answers or some form of certainty / answers/ or security blanket... Islam just replace jesus with Muhammad and you have basically the same thing. Any form of polytheism is pretty much entire for the purpose of explanations of natural phenomenons without scientific knowledge of what was actually ocuring...
I personally wonder how long theism in gneral will exist... With scientific knowledge growing and becoming the norm for what people are starting to look for for knowledge and answers(and even scientific backing is not 100% concrete) .. I see more and more on a regular basis of those who took the route of the Athiest as I did and sought science and mathematics as my tools for understanding or attempting to rather of situations.
I ask hm.... How long can theism exist... How many will cling to dying traditions ... How long will it be before people open their eyes
Seraphiel
10-08-2008, 07:23 AM
yea he was white because the son of god couldn't possibly be black.
ofc,how could u even think otherwise but he couldn't be white either cuz no son of God ever existed u know.
It was just same fake homo.
spacecadet319
10-08-2008, 09:34 AM
i was just being sarcastic you know.
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